The sun revolves around the earth

The educated and relatively intelligent part of the American public, watching the election campaign in the United States, is seriously saddened, because citizens who listen to populists and demagogues are catastrophically ignorant. Indicators that demonstrate a “lack of knowledge” among the general public are “absolutely terrifying,” notes Salon magazine. Many Americans are convinced that the Sun revolves around the Earth, does not believe in evolutionary teaching, does not read a single book a year, but instead believes in “accumulating wealth through prayer.”

The Journal "Salon" An article by David Mashiotra was published that told readers the “disturbing truth” about the United States.

One of the never-ending clichés of American political discourse is the idea that a “rebellion of populism” can cure all the diseases that the people, the government, the economy, and the US culture are suffering from. Abraham Lincoln’s dream of managing “people and for people” mutated into wild cries coming “from megaphones in the hands of charlatans, burghers and fools,” the author believes.

An informed observer, according to the analyst, should from time to time explore the cultural landscape, political dialogue and mental abilities of the average American. And I have to ask myself the question: who the hell are these people who are eager to run government policies? Who are they, ready to offer their candidates for the management of an increasingly ignorant population?

Indicators showing the general public lack of knowledge and even the desire for them "absolutely terrifying", says the publicist. An analysis of the relevant indicators should turn into shock even the most naive, believers in the principle of "the power of the people." Is it time to revise the concept of democracy?

According to the results of a major sociological survey conducted by Newsweek magazine, 44 percent of Americans can not figure out the sections of the Bill of Rights. According to others, two-thirds of Americans can not name a single judge of the Supreme Court. 29% do not know the name of the current vice president. Studies by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute have shown that only half of Americans among those surveyed were able to correctly identify all three branches of the federal government.

Sad statistics also show that a quarter of Americans believe that the sun revolves around the earth, and 42 percent do not believe in biological evolution.

As any good teacher will confirm, lack of knowledge is “excusable and fixable” if a student demonstrates a commitment to improvement and tries to learn. However, the vast majority of Americans are not only ignorant and do not know the basic facts. stories and science, but also brazenly flaunts their ignorance, "apparently without feeling the need to learn lessons or improve their knowledge."

A recent Pew Study found that only 29% of Americans regularly read newspapers (paper or digital). And 24 percent of Americans do not read a single book a year! And we can safely assume that among those who have read at least one book in twelve months, many have downloaded the latest instruction from Joel Austen to the brain, explaining how to “accumulate wealth through prayer”.

In fairness it should be noted, the author writes sarcastically that many Americans cannot be readers: they cannot read. The US Department of Education recently found out that 14% of Americans are illiterate, and almost a quarter of Americans read worse than fifth graders.

The politics of the modern United States is accompanied by total illiteracy and ignorance. Around shit: fifty-nine percent of Americans support the use of torture against suspected terrorists! At the same time, less than half of Americans are worried about the fact that an unmanned vehicle abroad is killing someone innocent. In 2014, 38 percent of Americans, according to a Vanderbilt University study, stated that the First Amendment "goes too far" in guaranteeing freedoms.

So, the assumption that the majority of Americans are smart people turned out to be a mistake, the publicist ironically. Well, if so, why be surprised at the enormity of disasters that broke out because of the policy of not the most intelligent presidents? President Bush and his "pack of thugs," for example, easily convinced most Americans that Saddam Hussein was associated with the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks. There was nothing difficult in this: the majority of people who do not read newspapers or books, who do not understand the elementary facts of history are easy prey for manipulators.

No wonder Noam Chomsky believes that America is drifting from democracy to oligarchy. Now the hope for a “miracle cure” is ending. Americans are sure that a proper organization or an appropriate level of consciousness is enough to change “everything around” so that justice reigns everywhere, and life resembles Eden's paradise. Such views give the impression that once smart people "made a lobotomy." The situation resembles the behavior of a doctor who assures a patient that the death throat confirms: there are several minutes left before recovery. In short, it does not seem that the citizens of the United States have chosen the intellectual Chomsky as their president.

What can be done to teach Americans?

According to the author, the “uprising of populism” will bring positive changes only if it is followed by a massive cultural transformation.

American schools should restore real learning and “intellectual rigor” in the classrooms. Educational institutions, right from kindergarten to college, will be required to give the human person a rich scientific program, mathematics, visual arts, history, philosophy, and so on. It should not require compliance, but stimulate creativity. It is necessary to inculcate not the ability to agree, but to teach the values ​​necessary for the realization of independence and inquisitiveness of mind.

High quality education should be available not only to rich people, but to all Americans. In this case, American families "will begin to raise their children, emphasizing wisdom, not wealth." There will be a growth of intelligence, kindness and compassion. And then the American media will begin to look for a new audience - smart consumers and politicians.

The irony is that this offer of cultural transformation is almost impossible under current conditions. Elite insists on its elitism.

More than 300 million people live in the country, and among these millions the share of elite workers, administrators, managers and technocrats is 10-20 percent of the population. "The uprising of populism" threatens to knock the steering wheel off the car, and the country will fly off the road into a ditch.

America needs an increase in the number of "elite" personalities, "and they are needed quickly." Instead of being a “nation of farmers,” America should become a nation of leaders, the author writes.

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Who will lead the United States to such a leadership? Maybe Donald Trump? But this is also the author of books about wealth and an obvious populist subtly capturing the mood of the electorate. Or democrat Hillary Clinton? But after all, this lady can hardly boast a brilliant knowledge of history, economics and philosophy, and even to the high culture of Madame Wow, as far as China on foot.

Apparently, the number of those who believe that the sun revolves around the earth will grow in the United States.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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Comments

[Humpty]

Active ignorance is perhaps the most dangerous destructive force. A similar tendency to dullness is observed not only in the USA.
"Motor-Roller", song - "Lamb", I recommend.

[Letun]

Quote: article

Many Americans are convinced that the sun revolves around the earth

But only at the same time they launch the Mars rover to Mars, make modern and reliable processors (well, and other radioelement base), are leaders in 3D technologies, and so on. And so yes, stupid.
By the way, I already recalled a couple of times here when two girls of 9-16 years old were standing next to a salute on May 17 and asked the other when the Great Patriotic War ended. At a salute dedicated to this event. They just knew that there would be a salute and came to him, and in honor of which the salute did not know. This is not in the USA, it is with us. Can write an article on this topic?

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Letun

But only at the same time they launch the Mars rover to Mars, make modern and reliable processors (well, and other radioelement base), are leaders in 3D technologies, and so on. And so yes, stupid.

So that's the trick that most scientists, engineers, etc. to the USA, coming from other countries. In pursuit of a well-fed and rich life from different countries, a colossal brain drain in the USA continues.

Quote: Letun

By the way, I already recalled a couple of times here when two girls of 9-16 years old were standing next to a salute on May 17 and asked the other when the Great Patriotic War ended. At a salute dedicated to this event. They just knew that there would be a salute and came to him, and in honor of which the salute did not know. This is not in the USA, it is with us. Can write an article on this topic?

Fools are everywhere. And for the fact that in Russia every year it becomes more and more worth thanking the reform of education and the grief of the reformers conducting it. As well as TV channels such as TNT, MuzTV, etc. - massively stupid people and instilling American values ​​in the masses. :(

[Humpty]

Quote: Misha Honest

Fools are everywhere. And for the fact that in Russia every year it becomes more and more worth thanking the reform of education and the grief of the reformers conducting it. As well as TV channels such as TNT, MuzTV, etc.

When the union in the ticket offices of Moscow and Leningrad often had no idea where some of the capitals of the union republics are located. As the taxi driver said in the movie - There were people like people and suddenly ...
You can grumble as much as you like about the harmful reform of education, but what does education give only in educational institutions? Is there a vacuum in the family? Parents of young ignoramuses received their education in quite prosperous times.

[EFA]

Yes, yes, in NASA more than 60% of non-Americans, among the remaining Americans - people over 48 years old.

The majority of young people are the same "brain migrants", but in the second generation.

[zennon]

Quote: Misha Honest

So that's the trick that most scientists, engineers, etc. to the USA, coming from other countries. In pursuit of a well-fed and rich life from different countries, a colossal brain drain in the USA continues.

That is, they are fools and therefore intellectuals come to them, but we are so smart that talents are leaving us? This is a strange logic. By the way, how many people think the same about the sun and the earth? I think not a little. So what? This is by no means prevents them from living. There was a popular program "Insanely beautiful". Shelest led. Google a few issues, gasp!

[Misha Honest]

Quote: zennon

That is, they are fools and therefore intellectuals come to them, and we are so smart that talents are leaving us? A strange logic.

They come to them for a good dough, which they print in tons (you need to read carefully - I already wrote !!). And in our government there are crooks who are either too lazy or dopeni brain drain in the country.

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Misha Honest

Come to them for a good dough, which they print in tons

The genius of the economy can be seen right away - where are the Americans before him.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Uncle Joe

Quote: Misha Honest
They come to them for a good dough, which they print in tons of the genius of the economy right away - where the Americans are before him.

And what am I wrong in?

Quote: Uncle Joe

Quote: Misha Honest

So that's the trick that most scientists, engineers, etc. to the USA coming from other countries

In the entire history of the Nobel Prize, the physics prize has been awarded 207 times.

Of these 207 times, 91 were US citizens.

Of these, 8 people had dual citizenship.

And out of these 91 laurets, how many were born in the USA, and how many emigrated from other countries and received US citizenship?

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Misha Honest

And what am I wrong in?

In everything - starting with tons of dough, and ending with a hint that these tons are not provided with goods.

And out of these 91 laurets, how many were born in the USA, and how many emigrated from other countries and received US citizenship?

Those who do not have dual citizenship.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Uncle Joe

In everything - starting with tons of dough, and ending with a hint that these tons are not provided with goods.

As of August 18, 2015, the US government debt was $ 18,350 trillion (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government debt_

USA) In my opinion, it’s not even tons already And by the way - this debt continues to increase. And where is the evidence that these funds are provided with at least some goods?

Quote: Uncle Joe

Those who do not have dual citizenship.

Conducted a little research - just counted the Nobel Prize winners emigrated to the USA and obtained citizenship there, happened - 32 person from 88. Counted here on this page: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: Nobel laureates

US $ Prizes

Quote: zennon

But nothing that their productivity is 3 times higher than ours? What is their powerful differentiated economy? First-class agriculture?

You know better, since you are so good at this. But then I have such a question - can the US economy with such a structure of GDP and astronomical public debt be really powerful? Data here: http://finliga.com/review/ekonomika-usa-2014.html

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Misha Honest

As of August 18, 2015, the US government debt was $ 18,350 trillion

And why, ate the fires?

This debt does not mean your debt to your neighbor, from whom you shot a piece before your salary.
This debt means the bank’s debt to its depositors (the more depositors the bank has, the more the bank owes them, the more stable and reliable such a bank is)

The US has an external investment debt - they do not borrow money, but invest in it like a bank.

Moreover, US GNP exceeds their GDP, which means that their residents who pay taxes in the United States produce more around the world than residents and non-residents do in the United States (that is, the United States produces more than it consumes).
For comparison, the GNP of the Russian Federation = 25-27% of GDP, which means that 75-80% of the goods consumed within the Russian Federation are produced not by Russia, but either by foreign capital (non-residents) in the Russian Federation, or brought from abroad.

And where is the evidence that these funds are provided with at least some goods?

Here - http://www.ved.gov.ru/exportcountries/us/about_us/ved_us/

just counted the nobel prize laureates

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%BB%D0%B0%
D1%83%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D
0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%
D1%84%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B5

[EFA]

Well, in general, if we compare the amount of money supply of the dollar present on the planet with the real sector of the US economy, then the difference between the money supply and real goods produced by the USA will be many times, and not in favor of real goods.

If you add the financial market (and in fact "air"), the difference will be tenfold. In addition, the financial market, in terms of its cash backing, is zero, even with a minus sign. Since the entire turnover of virtual money does not correspond to the real money supply of the dollar. In other words, dollars will not be enough if suddenly everyone in the financial market wants to get cash. The FRS will have to print money non-stop for two months.

[Your friend]

Quote: EFA

Well, in general, if we compare the amount of money supply of the dollar present on the planet with the real sector of the US economy, then the difference between the money supply and real goods produced by the USA will be many times, and not in favor of real goods.

If you add the financial market (and in fact "air"), the difference will be tenfold. In addition, the financial market, in terms of its cash backing, is zero, even with a minus sign. Since the entire turnover of virtual money does not correspond to the real money supply of the dollar. In other words, dollars will not be enough if suddenly everyone in the financial market wants to get cash. The FRS will have to print money non-stop for two months.

Does this somehow prevent the dollar from being a world currency?)

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: EFA

Well, actually, if you compare

But if, but if

You do not fantasize, but compare and provide the data.

if we compare the money supply of the dollar on the planet with the real sector of the US economy, the difference between the money supply and real goods produced by the United States will be many times, and not in favor of real goods

And in Russia the same thing - and why?

What, the service market, which also costs money, and whose share in the US is 77% of GDP (60% in the Russian Federation), has already been canceled?

Since the entire turnover of virtual cash does not correspond to the real money supply of the dollar

Real money supply is cash paper money, which makes up about 20% of the US turnover - and why?

In other words, there will not be enough dollars if suddenly everyone in the financial market wants to get cash

One-on-one statement with Winnie the Pooh's statement - "if bears were bees"

If a miracle happens, and all US investors want to receive their money at once, they will go to the forest and receive them in accordance with the agreement - each at its agreed time, in the agreed amount.
But no one wants it, especially in monetary form - not for that, electronic transfers were invented in order to transport paper money by tankers.


Have you ever held a textbook on economics in your hands?

[victor]

The Nobel Prize is not politicized ???

[mcsimcsim]

But you will not deny that since the mid-70s, the US dollar has NOT been tied to gold? (as it was before).
And that over the past decades this has led to an almost uncontrolled increase in the money supply, not supported by anything real? And that the refinancing rate of the US Central Bank is currently practically zero (that is, there is PHYSICALLY no possibility for the Central Bank to lend to other banks otherwise than to print money not backed by real assets (the so-called "financial easing" policy)?
Is that something you probably6 know? or don't know?

So this is exactly what your opponent expressed in simple words in one sentence.

[zennon]

Quote: Misha Honest

They come to them for a good dough, which they print in tons (you need to read carefully - I already wrote !!).

Only loot and print? But nothing that their labor productivity is 3 times higher than ours? That they have a powerful differentiated economy? First-class agriculture? The enemy must be respected. Only fools throw their caps.

[Ziksura]

Quote: zennon

But nothing that their productivity is 3 times higher than ours?

In what units? Please in comparative characteristics IN PHYSOBOLDS for the SAME type of work. Enlighten. Not the first time I am looking for. And everything is somehow either in dollars or nothing.

Quote: Uncle Joe

and ending with a hint that these tons are not provided with goods.

And you give me 18 free dollars, I’ll fill you up with goods. I’m sure that there will be no problems with personnel and raw materials and equipment suppliers. Any arguments against?

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Ziksura

And you give me 18 free dollars, I’ll fill you up with goods

I would love to, but:

1 free dollars does not exist in nature (this "freebie" is provided by industrial high-tech production, in the size of 15-20% of the global one, and a self-sufficient economy with a turnover of 20% of the global one);

2 for any subject of the economy, be it an enterprise or a state, there is a simple law: in order to work according to the formula "money-commodity-money", you first need to successfully work according to the formula "commodity-money-commodity" (which we did in our US time)

So I have a lot of arguments - you have problems with economic literacy due to the complete lack thereof.

[Your friend]

Quote: Ziksura

Quote: zennon

But nothing that their productivity is 3 times higher than ours?

In what units? Please in comparative characteristics IN PHYSOBOLDS for the SAME type of work. Enlighten. Not the first time I am looking for. And everything is somehow either in dollars or nothing.

Quote: Uncle Joe

and ending with a hint that these tons are not provided with goods.

And you give me 18 free dollars, I’ll fill you up with goods. I’m sure that there will be no problems with personnel and raw materials and equipment suppliers. Any arguments against?

Well, you still have to somehow manage to get these "free dollars" everywhere. What is the United States doing successfully, including in our country, and I think you will not give up a couple of hundred greens?

[The point]

Quote: zennon

There was a popular program "Insanely beautiful". Shelest led. Google a few issues, gasp!

What do you think? Beauty will save the world ... from the dominance of intelligence.

[gladcu2]

zenon

Those. You want to create a level playing field for competition. That there was no leakage of human capital.

Those. you suggest digging a huge pit the size of the ocean. fill it with water. It will be fenced off from Europe and neighbors so that there are no conflicts. To create on this basis stability for 300 years. Start printing fake money and organize it as the dominant currency in the world. From the turnover of the unit, which will be added to the budget up to 10% of the real labor of non-citizens.

Maybe then there will be no leakage of human capital.

It is possible in another way. Take away his yachts from Abramovich. Highlight potentially effective young people to train and put in closed-type research institutions without the right to correspondence.

If the borders of countries for the circulation of human resources are open, then naturally if not balanced by artificially created restrictions, then the defectors will be from one country to another with a higher standard of living.

But the lie of democracy dominates in the world, which introduced the rights of the country in self-determination in a confrontation with the ephemeral legal values ​​of the individual. As a rule, not the most valuable individual.

[zennon]

Quote: gladcu2

Those. Do you want to

Yes, I don’t want anything! Where did you get all this from ?! You draw your conclusions from them and attribute these conclusions to me. People should travel to different countries, this is normal. It is not normal when this elevator is only one way. WE they themselves must create the conditions for them to be attractive for scientific, social and economic growth. I thought that was understandable.

[EFA]

What is this shell without brains? I am shocked, it seems that she has a two-bit brain (just for analogy), like a toaster, and she has only two reactions to external stimuli, the first is "hee hee" and the second is "ha ha".

[Lexa-149]

Hmm ... She has a head just to do blowjob ...

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Misha Honest

So that's the trick that most scientists, engineers, etc. to the USA coming from other countries

In the entire history of the Nobel Prize, the physics prize has been awarded 207 times.

Of these 207 times, 91 were US citizens.

Of these, 8 people had dual citizenship.

[a housewife]

And not double, just US citizenship, how much? Of people who came to the states and not born there?

[gladcu2]

Uncle Joe

These statistics do not say anything. This is the second time you publish it.

Out of the remaining 90, there may be 90 emigrants who have concluded a commercial transaction with the state, the result of which is the acquisition of citizenship.

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: gladcu2

Of the remaining 90, there may be

Or they may not be (prove your point of view)

[Region-25.rus]

The trouble is that THEM is (legion) already. Moreover, many schools graduated more than one year ago! And what for they do not need to know something!

[Humpty]

Quote: Letun

This is not in the USA, it is with us. Can write an article on this topic?

Indeed, what difference does it make - how many troglodytes Americans have. We have as many of our own. And in China it’s even worse.
About their ignoramuses, especially if they need to worry in power. And you can always neigh over the Americans or the wives of some of our players, this is not harmful.

[dvg79]

I support, first you need to shoot bureaucrats from the minobra and put things in order in our education, and then laugh at the Americans.

[viktorrymar]

and 42 percent do not believe in biological evolution.

I don’t believe in her either

[a housewife]

This can be believed in God. And biological evolution is an unproven theory. We are simply forced to believe in her. Proved to be. Darwin's theory led only to racism, to the concept - subhuman.

[Karabanov]

Quote: housewife

This can be believed in God.

Yes, believe for God's sake. At least in Allah, even in Jesus, even in the Flying Pasta Monster ... Who doesn’t give you?

Quote: housewife

And biological evolution is an unproven theory. We are simply forced to believe in her. Proved to be.

Evolutionary theory just as well explains everything and is practically confirmed. Unlike religious fairy tales, in which everything should initially be perceived as truth (at the same time, not supported by anything, except for fictional biblical dogmas).

Quote: housewife

Darwin's theory led only to racism, to the concept - subhuman.

The most brutal wars take place on religious grounds, which can become a perverted ideology. By the way, what are we watching at the present time ...
I have already spoken about the morality of atheism, and I assure you that it is no worse, and sometimes even cleaner, than the morality of the believer.

[zennon]

Quote: housewife

Darwin's theory led only to racism, to the concept - subhuman.

Well, about racism, check out:
http://www.bugaga.ru/interesting/1146721903-100-faktov-o-negrah.html
Nobody forces you to believe in anything personally. Darwin invited you to think about presenting your conclusions, and to refute them you need to at least present your theory. Do you have it, madame?

[Xsanchez]

Theory of panspermia. Theory of gene modification, etc.

[Bayonet]

Quote: dvg79

I support, first you need to shoot bureaucrats from the minobra and put things in order in our education, and then laugh at the Americans.

[Karlovar]

Steve Jobs, when he was alive, Obama once asked: "Is it possible to return the production of Apple from China to the United States?" ...... The answer was: "No, no longer, there is not enough qualified personnel."

[mark2]

Indeed, what difference does it make - how many troglodytes Americans have. We have as many of our own. And in China it’s even worse.

A third of Russians (32 percent) believe that the Sun is a satellite of the Earth. These are the results of a VTsIOM survey conducted on the Day of Russian Science (February 8). The full results of the survey are given on the center's website.

Compared to 2007, the number of Russians who believe that the sun revolves around our planet has increased - last time this answer was given by 28 percent of respondents. The inhabitants of the Russian Federation have more solid knowledge about planet Earth — only 8 percent believe that the center of the planet is not hot.

Radiation turned out to be a difficult moment for Russians - 11 percent of the residents of the Russian Federation believe that radioactive milk becomes safe after boiling, and 55 percent are sure that people created all the radioactivity on Earth. When asked whether it is true that oxygen on earth comes from plants, 78 percent of Russians answered with agreement. In 2007, 83 percent of residents of the Russian Federation were sure of this.

The number of people who are confident that humans and dinosaurs appeared on Earth at the same time has hardly changed - 29 percent in 2011 compared to 30 percent in 2007. The proportion of Russians who believe that humans evolved from other species remained unchanged - it is 61 percent. 71 percent of Russians agree with the statement about the constant movement of continents (in 2007 - 72 percent).

The VTsIOM survey took place from January 29 to 30, 2011. During the survey, fund employees learned the views of 1,6 thousand people in 138 settlements in 46 regions, territories and republics of Russia.

http://lenta.ru/news/2011/02/08/krax/

Learn, citizens, physics, astrophysics and science!

[Kunar]

Return the Soviet education system and textbooks to the citizens. The greatest "achievement" of the West is not the collapse of the army and industry of the USSR. The most terrible thing is the collapse of the education system ... of secondary and secondary technical education first of all. For many years the country will be deprived of specialists of the lowest and middle link. And this is an irreparable loss .... Filling this gap at the moment is almost impossible. And it will not be possible for another 20 years. Even if you start to run to restore "right now, in three legs ....!

[demo]

It’s not worth writing.

This is the result of an active reform of our education under the common trend - "Unified State Exam".
Which is taken from the same Americans.
Which was introduced in America in order to create and educate a nation of stupid slaves.

Maybe they will fly to Mars.
But the question is - who are those who are developing this program.
Do you have information about those individuals who "forge the sword of victory"?
And I do not.
But I am tormented by "vague doubts" that the guys there are a solid international gathered "from the world to the pines."

And the last.
All the same, not 100% of Americans are affected by "psakism". There are 10-20% of more or less educated left.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Humpty

When the union in the ticket offices of Moscow and Leningrad often had no idea where some of the capitals of the union republics are located. As the taxi driver said in the movie - There were people like people and suddenly ...

There were, but they were many times less than now. Education in the USSR was still orders of magnitude higher.

Quote: Humpty

You can grumble as much as you like about the harmful reform of education, but what does education give only in educational institutions? Is there a vacuum in the family? Parents of young ignoramuses received their education in quite prosperous times.

Parents of young ignoramuses often received education after the collapse of the Union. And for those who still studied in the Soviet school, in the 90s, and in the early 2000s, as a rule, there was no time to raise children - they spun like squirrels in a wheel, just to survive. Although, of course, there were, and now there are many simply negligent parents.

Quote: Humpty

About their ignoramuses, especially if they need to worry in power.

Most of them, they are not ignoramuses at all, but thieves and crooks.

Quote: demo

All the same, not 100% of Americans are affected by "psakism". There are 10-20% of more or less educated left.

I agree. I think that it’s pretty realistic numbers.

[Karlovar]

And today in Russia, whoever wants to (strives for knowledge, professionalism) learns normally ....... True, there are few of them ... In the family, the desire for knowledge and self-improvement is inculcated, where skills rather than money are paramount ... And the money itself will come as a result of professionalism ....

[gladcu2]

Karlovar

The first and indisputable statement. The level and quality of education is the first and necessary part of strategic national importance. This is not even a social preference.

In the first place educational standards, and in the second Army and Navy. That is how state importance should be presented.

Education must be widespread. Those upstarts who can afford to study will not do weather. They will make up those unfortunate dying 10-20%.

It is necessary to clearly define the terminology in the north of education.

For example, education, this is a list of general knowledge within the boundaries established by state policy for strategic planning.

Knowledge, specialized information in a format for storage and transmission.

Specialization, (training). The knowledge gained as a result of repetitive functions.

Something like this.

[Karlovar]

The fact that the Soviet education system was deliberately ditched by our local liberal activists on the instructions of their employers from "partners" is clear to everyone, there is no dispute! So in these conditions of ruined education in the country, the only way out in the family is to direct children to strive for knowledge (general, special), to instill a love of reading (preferably world classics) ... This is the concern of parents, hard work ...

[Vadim237]

The exam is not here, and it just shows how a person studied for 10 years, whether he had motivation to learn. And someone else will fly to Mars, but certainly not us, we have sequestered the budget for space until 2030.

[The point]

Judging by the number of errors in your comment, the USE really has nothing to do with it.

[Vadim237]

I have punctuation errors there and one word separately - it’s not very convenient to write from a tablet.

[gladcu2]

Vadim 237

My personal subjective assessment of the exam, as I understand from the publications. This is preparing students for the exam through repetitive functions. Those. Education goes into the form of training. What is very bad.

[gladcu2]

demo

These 10-20% of the remaining ones are non-alternatively absorbed by the bulk, without the right to win competition for jobs in accordance with their competence.

In other words, if there are 10 applicants for a money position, then the probability that the right specialist will take it is the same 10-20%. This is a very low rate.

Over a certain period of several decades, the level of requirements decreases. There is a complete degradation.

I want to note that the same marked 10-20% in the USSR amounted to about 50%. And this is already far beyond the critical level of degradation, but rather will cause a chain reaction of increasing the level of responsibility for the duties performed.

[Vadim237]

Now specialists with great experience in a specific field are hiring.

[Turkir]

There are 10-20% more-less educated.

On one of the Runet sites, I told that to my question to the American: how much will 2 + 2 * 2 answer was 8. I thought that everyone would laugh. The correct answer is 6. They wrote to me that I am a blockhead.
By the way, his engineering calculator answered 6. The American said his calculator .. went bad. We have got the same education ..

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Letun

Can write an article on this topic?

Dear Letun, the article has the phrase:

It is not necessary to demand compliance, but to stimulate creativity. It is necessary to inculcate not the ability to agree, but to teach the values ​​necessary for awareness of the independence and inquisitiveness of the mind.

which, it seems to me, surprisingly accurately fits our, eternally reformed and never reformed, education. For the Unified State Examination education at a terrifying rate produces such "girls".
Something like that, colleague.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Vladimir 1964

. For USE

There is no such education! USE is an exam - Unified State Exam

[Karabanov]

Maybe you know, there is such a feature film in the genre of dystopia - "Idiocracy". It shows very well where modern society can come. The film is American, but unfortunately similar trends are present in our country. And every year, more and more ... This is alarming.

[Karlovar]

60% of scientists in the USA are Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis ..... Another percentage comes from the former USSR ... Some percent come from Japan, Korea, Indonesia, Latin America, etc. .... What remains to the share of US citizens ???? Moreover, China is actively pursuing a program of returning Chinese scientists from the United States to their historical homeland, lifting up to a returnee there like 400 thousand thalers-ZP more than the American .... In the course, soon the Indians will muddle such a program .....

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Karlovar

60% of scientists in the USA are Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis ...

And now, please be kind to the link to the official statistics confirming your fantasies (the absence of such will mean that you are an ordinary liar)

[gladcu2]

Uncle Joe

You will not be able to find an official, and even more independent, statistically valid estimate on this issue.

60% is an intuitive view of a US citizen based on their life experience. Quite possibly. You can agree with him and not start without a substantive debate about who can lie more.

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: gladcu2

60% is an intuitive view of a US citizen

This citizen does not live in the United States, is not involved in the scientific field, does not attend scientific conferences, and does not have the ability to have an intuitive understanding in this matter.

But he allows himself to make unambiguous statements in the affirmative form, and such statements are a lie.

[Karlovar]

You didn’t understand at all what your comrade from Canada told you .... And you hastened to scribble the answer ...

[Karlovar]

Googel help .... And I never scatter links ... Principle .... More information for consideration: in South Korea, a new misfortune is a shortage of engineering personnel ..., promising people have been lured and continue to be lured by the Chinese ... I suspect, in many countries this situation is .... Googel in the help again ...

[I am]

Yes, you know .... but write. Articles about ours who are only interested in the network "in contact", the number of likes and selfies - should appear. There are more and more such people. Alas.
About 3D technologies - the USSR first came up with, only the implementation was lame, and therefore did not go "to the masses" - not profitable. about other radio-electronic base - open the SOVIET directories. Everything that is currently being sold and whether it was produced or used or was in the USSR at the development stage. Processors - in the USSR there was a different direction of their development. YES there were processors, but their architecture was very different from Itel's. BUT THEY WERE. Yes, Americans can profit from other people's inventions, indeed, you cannot argue with this fact and it is worth recognizing it.

[gladcu2]

I am

According to your last phrase about the received profits from patents. The answer is simple.

The higher the starting capital, the higher the expected profit.

If you start your starting capital by washing two dirty apples and then selling them, the effect of the investment will be negligible.

[Saburov]

Quote: Letun

from only in this case they launch the rover to Mars, make modern and reliable processors (well, and other radioelement base), are leaders in 3D technologies, etc. And so yes, stupid.

I will give you one example. In the USA, there are 16 Medical and Biological Centers where various medications and vaccines are tested, developed and undergoing clinical trials, so in 15 from the 16 MBC the heads of the leading departments come from the CIS (that is, the former USSR) and the staff of the departments is about 80% of foreigners ( most of all from the CIS, Germany, Japan) and only 20% (USA and England). In the 90 years, they actively climbed into our universities and institutes and gave grants (especially for those who graduated with a Red Diploma to work in the USA and from 10 people , 9 left for the USA for permanent residence with tr arranging and issuing citizenship after signing a ten-year contract (often Americans give away other people's inventions for their own in order to maintain their image in the world, as they get a patent). So why should they study, they have a printing press and the opportunity to buy anyone because of human greed.

[gladcu2]

Saburov

But in your post you showed a clear problem with the theft of citizens, as a form of capital.

You remember these cries of international human rights activists about restricting the right of the Soviet Citizen to the possibility of free travel abroad.

They so brainwashed EVERYTHING with it. That the collapse of the USSR was called the great victory of the people for freedom.

Now you understand why?

[Karlovar]

The most valuable resource of any human state, and especially with brains .... And with the collapse of the USSR, they bred like suckers, sucked a bunch of brains ...

[Tatar 174]

Quote: Letun

But only at the same time they launch the Mars rover to Mars, make modern and reliable processors (well, and other radioelement base), are leaders in 3D technologies, well, etc.

In fact, it’s not they, but their uncontrollably printed money, which they attract to their minds from all over the planet. This is the case.

[delvin-fil]

But only at the same time they launch the Mars rover to Mars, make modern and reliable processors (well, and other radioelement base), are leaders in 3D technologies, and so on.

And how many, excuse me, "indigenous" (at least in the second generation) Americans are working in these industries? Most immigrants from Hindustan, Israel, eastern Europe and Russia.

[Lexa-149]

In the article, you can replace all words about the USA with words about the Russian Federation and the article will not lose its relevance.

[marlin1203]

And with our education system, we will soon successfully "catch up and overtake America!" ... as in the good old days, I shed a lot of tears

[Waltasar]

The problem is that these "dumb" ones were able to create conditions in the country that attract the minds of other countries.

[dvg79]

It was not these stupid conditions that created the conditions, but their well-educated elite, and their ancestors, like ours, received a good education.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: dvg79

and their ancestors, like ours, received a good education.

And you, Dear Dmitry Vladimirovich, have not beguiled anything? Our ancestors were Lomonosov and Mendeleev, Turgenev, etc., and their ancestors were rags and crooks from all over Europe, which began its history with the destruction of the indigenous population (and bison ).

Something like that, colleague.

[Bayonet]

Quote: dvg79

their well-educated elite, and their ancestors, like ours, received a good education.

I wonder who Princeton, Harvard, Cambridge, Stanford, and Yale are graduating from.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Bayonet

I wonder who Princeton, Harvard, Cambridge, Stanford, and Yale are graduating from.

Well, one of Harvard graduates was offended - minus

[Karlovar]

In the history of mankind, wars between countries have always been fought not only for territory, but also for people (taxpayers), for brains .... The winner took gold-silver, expensive fabrics, clothes, armor, artisans, doctors, alchemists as prey , philosophers, astronomers, matem
ticks etc.

[chikenous59]

Quote: Waltasar

The problem is that these "dumb" ones were able to create conditions in the country that attract the minds of other countries.

I agree, it’s like in school, three-way students become influential people-deputies, businessmen, and excellent students work for these people!

[unserman]

Unfortunately, we are starting the same trends. Already appear the first victims of the exam ...

[chikenous59]

Quote: unsermann

Unfortunately, we are starting the same trends. Already appear the first victims of the exam ...

Of course they begin, we live according to American ideals (or Western ones). Everything that improves our life, foreign production. There is nothing to be surprised at! We will establish our production, it will become easier. But in order to establish production, it is necessary to nationalize the Central Bank, and for such a great step, the time has not yet come

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Quote: chikenous59

Of course they begin, we live according to American ideals (or Western ones). Everything that improves our life, foreign production. There is nothing to be surprised at! We will establish our production, it will become easier. But in order to establish production, it is necessary to nationalize the Central Bank, and for such a great step, the time has not yet come

Maybe it's time to go outside and hint about it ?!

[Karlovar]

Then there will be a war! A real war ... To begin with, a complete trade embargo against the Russian Federation, disconnection from international payment systems .., well, and then, how the suit goes !!! It’s too early to raise this issue, it is necessary to strengthen the army and navy, to deal with the economy ....

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: chikenous59

But in order to establish production, it is necessary to nationalize the Central Bank

And here is one of the first victims of the exam

[Sergey Guriev]

An ignorant population is much easier to manipulate. For example, to convince of the need for war with someone or to buy only "necessary" products. We remember the war in Iraq and the excitement around the generally mediocre iPhones. I think we are unlikely to see enlightenment, enlightenment. Rather the opposite. This is very beneficial.

[Karlovar]

American elites deliberately stupefied their "rams" (with the goal of rams it is easier to manage) .... But they overdid it a little, the rams became stupefied to such an extent that they no longer want and cannot perform work that more or less requires intelligence ... The American elites turned off the social lift through a terribly expensive high-quality education (only a narrow elite circle has the opportunity to get it, and potential geniuses from the people, the main source of talents, are never realized, stupidly tightening the nuts on the conveyor belt or pouring cocktails in the bar) ... ..

[samarin1969]

Alas! .. The indicators indicated in the article approximately correspond to the level of knowledge of people under 40 in Russia ... Another thing is that the Russian leadership is trying to correct the situation (not always skillfully) ... Americans consider this state of general knowledge to be acceptable and not complex. ..

[dvg79]

Correct ??? If only to finish off the remnants of the Soviet system. Read at your leisure modern textbooks and compare with the old ones. My wife and I were shocked, she is a teacher of Russian and literature, and I am a geography and biologist.

[samarin1969]

YOU are a plus ... and yet our education front is more optimistic than the economy ... many MORE good teachers

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: samarin1969

Another thing is that the leadership of the Russian Federation is trying to correct the situation (not always skillfully)

Dear Konstantin Viktorovich, open a textbook on history or natural science for the 5th grade and your "not always skillfully" will seem inappropriate irony.

[samarin1969]

Vladimir, this is a bitter irony ... history and social studies textbooks are well familiar to me ... with respect

[Viktortopwar]

Well, do we now take an example from the Americans? And as for the knowledge of our people up to 40 years old ... a little inaccurate, I would say up to 30 years old, this seems to be true.
PSminus did not set.

[Ararat]

If the United States says or demands that the Sun revolves around the Earth, then that will be the point, otherwise sanctions and a coup will be ensured.

[parusnik]

Many Americans are convinced that the Sun revolves around the Earth, do not believe in evolutionary doctrine, and do not read a single book a year.... Why throw stones at Americans ... As if we had a better deal ...

[bastard]

Quote: parusnik

Many Americans are convinced that the Sun revolves around the Earth, do not believe in evolutionary doctrine, do not read a single book in a year ... Why throw stones at Americans ... As if we had a better deal ...

The introduction of Orthodox (and other religious) disciplines into the course of secondary schools and universities will lead to exactly the same effects as described in the article. In the media - a sabbath of astrologers and psychics, fortune-tellers and magicians. The people are literally forced to BELIEVE in the miraculousness of charlatan conspiracies and prayers, in the "healing" properties of "magic" ointments, powders and devices, thereby turning them into an electorate (what a foul word!). Prokopenko and others like him do not close their mouths around the clock. Poor fellow, when does he eat and sleep? People tend to believe in miracles, and cunning gentlemen insolently use this to extract profit and only profit. Why are these jesters given airtime and columns in the print media?
Well, let alone the "highly intellectual" game shows, talk shows and serials pouring from the screens as abundantly as women pour slop on cows (c), I will modestly keep silent.
It is, of course, understandable that it is easier to manage a dull and poorly educated herd, but there is a nuance: more dexterous and cunning people can intercept this management.

[S_Baykala]

Sad statistics also show that a quarter of Americans believe that the sun revolves around the earth

So what vegetable does all our education strive for in the Western model? It was its own, Soviet, recognized as one of the best in the world. They raised people who can reason or create, and not respond in response to external stimuli, as they are now (notorious tests). A herd that has had a reflex since childhood: in response to an irritant, one must select a previously known button is easier to manage. But this herd without an influx of a sufficient number of creative brains (which is possible so far in the West) will not be able to maintain and develop scientific, technical and cultural progress at a level corresponding to a world-class power, let alone a superpower.

[2s1122]

Because some stupid leaders need stupid performers. Because it’s not smart but worm-like people who are able to lubricate and climb in time, the official’s son will be warmed up in a warm place and mediocre to lead the production, it’s good if you have enough intelligence to listen to a more intelligent deputy.

[Bayonet]

Quote: 2s1122

Because, some stupid leaders need more stupid performers.

Almost Darwin!

[Shurale]

In the world there are many countries with ignorant people, for example, take Russia. For example, who knows that inflation is mainly created when repaying loans? Repayment of the loan creates extra money, extra money creates inflation, inflation makes it cheaper that we don’t have enough money to fund important purchases, which will provoke us to take loans ... World History Bank Imperial is better ....

Maybe it’s time to break out of this vicious circle and take off the bank that creates these wild interests?

[Humpty]

Quote: Shurale

For example, who knows that inflation is mainly created when repaying loans? Repayment of the loan creates extra money, extra money creates inflation, inflation makes money cheaper

Well, you are bent, it’s really difficult for many to understand. Here the problem in arithmetic is at least two steps. It’s hard to imagine that when you take 10 and give 15. These 5 from above should appear in nature, i.e. printed by the Central Bank.

[Vadim237]

In Russia, accounts payable grew to 16 trillion rubles, which is more than the budget for the next year - what excess money are you talking about?

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Shurale

For example, who knows that inflation is mainly created when repaying loans? Repayment of the loan creates extra money, extra money creates inflation

And how do they create it - in some inexplicable mystical way?

[rotmistr60]

I don’t even know how to comment on the article. It is written of course true. But as written correctly above, in our country the same thing begins to happen (the level of knowledge of schoolchildren). 90s, when they took guidance on the methodology of Western education, they are coming back today. In Soviet times, the troechnik possessed a greater store of knowledge than today's excellent student. With this approach to school education, things will get worse.

[Zomanus]

Yes, our situation is not better now.
So here we see only what awaits us in the future,
for America has embarked on this path before ...

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Zomanus

Yes, our situation is not better now.
So here we see only what awaits us in the future,
for America has embarked on this path before ...

Alexey, there’s nothing to comment on. How right you are, unfortunately, a colleague.

[chikenous59]

Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT

Quote: chikenous59

Of course they begin, we live according to American ideals (or Western ones). Everything that improves our life, foreign production. There is nothing to be surprised at! We will establish our production, it will become easier. But in order to establish production, it is necessary to nationalize the Central Bank, and for such a great step, the time has not yet come

Maybe it's time to go outside and hint about it ?!

On November 4, a rally will be held in many cities of Russia, an organizer of the People's Liberation Movement!
http://rusnod.ru/

[Vadim237]

And here is what they discovered in Russia in September http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/68513/

[anip]

... they don’t read a single book a year ... 44 percent of Americans cannot understand the sections of the Bill of Rights ... two-thirds of Americans cannot name a single judge of the Supreme Court ... 29% do not know the name of the current vice president . ... only half of the Americans among the respondents were able to correctly identify all three branches of the federal government.
... a quarter of Americans believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth, and 42 percent do not believe in biological evolution.

Is everything different in Russia?

And how stupid the Americans can be, it’s easy to understand by comparing their standard of living and Russian.

[2s1122]

And which broadcasts were interesting before The obvious and the incredible was broadcast by Professor Kapitsa., The magazines "Tekhnika Molodoi" "Modelist Constructor" "Around the World". At the school unas exams began from grade 5 to grade 10. Now the Russian language test is crazy

[Bayonet]

And why are you making so many mistakes? Apparently not everything was so beautiful ...

[Fox]

article about me ... I also don’t know a single American judge and vice president of America. I don’t understand their bill of rights and other nonsense, I don’t read a single Amer’s book a year ... and just don’t read American.

[The point]

Quote: Fox

and just don’t read American

Yes, and in Russian somehow not particularly. If it was sarcasm, then too camouflaged.

[marshes]

It seems that the average American is "deeply violet" about what is happening in the world, even what is happening in a neighboring state or district.
There are a lot of problems - work, taxes, insurance, mortgage loans ... On weekends, they try to "meet with their relatives" otherwise they are busy all week.
But the unemployed have plenty of space in their plans to study the "world around", looking for the intrigues of the federal government, "world behind the scenes", conspiracies.
Their life begins sometimes after retirement, but with us it ends, there is a chance not to live.
Of course they are more likely to retire early, but this is from the category of the "American dream".

[Russian Uzbek]

"" Many Americans are convinced that the Sun revolves around the Earth, do not believe in evolutionary teaching, do not read a single book a year, but they believe in "accumulating wealth through prayer" ""
the same can be said about most ordinary people in Russia and in any other country ... the only difference: in Russia everyone knows that the Earth revolves around the Sun and not vice versa

[Gerurra]

Yes, in all countries it is so! Half the people do not give a damn where what and how. Illiteracy is beneficial to capitalism and the top of the countries. was and will be. Only socialism was better at it. People were forced to learn. Learning is light, not learning darkness!

[V.ic]

Quote: Gerurra

(1) Learning is light, not (2) Learning is dark!

(1) ... but not (2) learning - a little light and to work;
(1) ... and not (2) scientists of darkness.

[Whiskey]

Sorry to upset the author, but

VTsIOM sociologists conducted a study of the most common misconceptions of Russians on the eve of Science Day, celebrated in the country on February 8
A third of the country's citizens are convinced that the Sun revolves around the Earth.

In addition, almost every third person believes that the first people lived next door to dinosaurs in the same era. Perhaps this knowledge is gleaned in the cartoon "The Flintstones"
VTsIOM sociologists conducted a study of the most common misconceptions of Russians on the eve of Science Day, celebrated in the country on February 8. As it turned out, some Russians lagged behind the development of science for hundreds of years. So, a third of the country's citizens are convinced that the Sun revolves around the Earth, and, oddly enough, the number of such people only grows over the years. If four years ago, 28% of respondents thought so, now now there are 32%.

Moreover, 14% of the respondents who know that the Earth revolves around the Sun, live in the firm belief that it makes a full revolution in one month. Among the most widespread misconceptions is the belief that radioactivity is exclusively the work of human hands (55%) and that antibiotics kill viruses in the same way as bacteria (46%), Interfax reports.

In addition, almost one in three believes that the first people lived next door to the dinosaurs in the same era. Every sixth resident of the country does not believe that modern man has evolved from earlier species. About a quarter of Russians mistakenly believe that the laser works by focusing sound waves (26%). And 18% of respondents deny that electrons are smaller than atoms.

Moreover, as it turned out, women are more prone to "scientific" delusions, that is, they are simply less educated. In particular, 58% of the fair sex are convinced that radioactivity is the result of human activity. Among men, 51% think so. 48% of women and 43% of men believe in the ability of antibiotics to kill viruses. With the idea that the Earth is in the center of the Universe and the Sun revolves around it, 34% of women and 29% of men live.

However, there is an exception: men more often than women believe that the laser works by focusing sound waves (29% versus 23%). The VTsIOM survey was conducted in 138 settlements in 46 regions, territories and republics of Russia.

[Karabanov]

It’s not clear why the ignorant will ignore you ... Oh yes

[Whiskey]

63% of Russians do not know the start date of World War II
Most Russians do not know when World War II began. According to the VTsIOM website, 85% of respondents were able to indicate the start date of the war, but 63% did not indicate the date correctly. 58% of them are sure that the war began in 1941, another 5% indicated other options for an answer. Only 22% of respondents know that World War II began in 1939.
The correct answer was mainly given by residents of the North-Western and Far Eastern districts (39% and 41%, respectively), 35-59-year-old Russians (25-27%) and highly educated respondents (34%). It is believed that the war began in 1941, as a rule, by Siberians (71%), respondents over 60 years old (63%) and poorly educated Russians (67%).
47% of Russians called the main reason for the outbreak of war the desire of Germany to take revenge for defeat in the First World War. 30% of respondents believe that the reason was the desire of international imperialism to redistribute the colonies and markets. Most rarely, the Russians associated the beginning of World War II with the desire of the USSR to spread communism in Europe and the intransigence of Poland, which did not agree to satisfy the territorial demands of Germany (7% and 6%, respectively).

[Whiskey]

Almost a quarter of Russians do not remember the location of the colors of the Russian flag. This follows from a VTsIOM survey.

According to the study, 24% of respondents could not correctly name in what sequence the colors of the tricolor go. At the same time, 7% of respondents did not remember either the order or the colors themselves. Only 64% of Russians were able to recall what the Russian flag looks like.

In addition, only 82% of Russians know that the double-headed eagle is depicted on the arms of Russia. And only 41% of the country's inhabitants remembered the first line of the national anthem.

Earlier, a similar poll was published by Levada Center. According to its results, the anthem of Russia is known to 43% of the country's inhabitants.

[Whiskey]

Why Russia Day is celebrated on June 12, 77 percent of Russians do not know, they came to the conclusion of the VTsIOM after conducting a social survey. Only eight percent of respondents said that a declaration of independence of Russia was adopted on June 12, while another four percent say that Russia’s state sovereignty has been declared.

Only 39 percent know for sure the name of the holiday - Day of Russia. A quarter of respondents use the old name
"Russian Independence Day".

Russians do not remember the events of World War II very well, and the younger the respondents, the worse they know the story, sociologists found out.



Russians make the least mistakes when answering the question of who unleashed World War II: the overwhelming majority of respondents (88%) noted that Germany was the aggressor, against 4% who named the USSR and 1% each Great Britain, the United States and France, reported on Friday "Interfax" sociologists VTsIOM based on the results of an all-Russian poll conducted on the eve of the Day of Memory and Sorrow.



As it turned out during a survey conducted in 46 regions of the Russian Federation, among residents of the Ural and Far Eastern federal districts, this issue caused a bit more difficulties - 13% in the Ural and 10% in the Far Eastern districts believe that the USSR unleashed the war. The Russians are experiencing the greatest difficulties in answering questions related to the main milestones of the Great Patriotic War. So, only 34% of respondents know that the Battle of Stalingrad began in 1942, 26% of those polled named 1943, and 34% were at a loss to give an answer.



Only 35% of Russians recalled that the blockade of Leningrad was lifted in 1944, while 26% felt that this had happened a year earlier (in 1943), and a third (33%) of the respondents found it difficult to answer.



Only half (49%) know that Joseph Stalin was the supreme commander in the war. 31% of respondents named George Zhukov, 2% - someone else, 18% found it difficult to answer.



A study by sociologists showed that the younger the respondents, the worse they know the history of the war. So, in a group of 18 to 24 years old, a third (28%) of respondents know that the Battle of Stalingrad began in 1942 (against 34% - 35-59 years and 38% in the group of 60 years and older).

Slightly more than a third (39%) of 18-24 year olds know that Stalin was the commander-in-chief (against half of the respondents over the age of 35: 52% in the 35-59 age group, 51% in the 60 and older group). Russians 25-34 years old consistently fall into the group of "middle peasants". Knowing the main events of the Second World War a little better than young people, they nevertheless (just like 18-24 year old respondents) more often than other age groups find it difficult to give any answer at all to the question about the events of those times.

[marshes]

Something remembered

[Belousov]

We had a very strong education system, and then they began to destroy it to please the "partners". Remember the outflow of scientists after the collapse of the Soviet Union? Because our scientists and specialists were at the highest level. Then they smashed all the education, replacing it with blunt cramming in the form of the USE. Soviet education taught people to think, think, and not just repeat like a mantra behind a TV picture. As a result, modern Russian scientists over the hill are not needed by anyone, and not at all because they have created luxurious conditions here, but because they are not banally called. So all these Sorov textbooks should be thrown out, all these substitutions of concepts such as replacing the Tatar-Mongol yoke with a simple Mongolian one should be thrown away (otherwise, so soon, to please national minorities, we will reach the fact that Ermolov went to bow to Shamil the dog) and restore the Soviet education system. But while the Medvedev-Ulyukaev-Naibiullin citizens are in power, this will not happen. And since Putin does not want to change them, then ... As they say, think for yourself ...

[Uncle Joe]

Many Americans are convinced that the sun revolves around the earth

February 8, 2011 Vesti.Ru: One-third of Russians (32%) believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=426828&cid=7

[a housewife]

If we adopt a different coordinate system, assign the Earth as the center, then the whole Universe will revolve around the Earth, including the Sun. Prove no?

[a housewife]

If we adopt a different coordinate system, assign the Earth as the center, then the whole Universe will revolve around the Earth, including the Sun. Prove no?

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: housewife

Prove no?

I will prove it.

[a housewife]

Get started.

[Uncle Joe]

accept a different coordinate system

[bastard]

Quote: Uncle Joe

accept a different coordinate system

It is interesting what system Irochka will rely on to prove her case: Aristotle, Ptolemy, or maybe Kozma Indikoplov?
Dear Uncle Joe! It is very difficult to convince a woman of something, and even more so to convince a woman. I sincerely wish you good luck!

[GAF]

Happy are the people who do not know who rules them. "They live in a mustache do not blow" while the printing press is working properly.

[Bayonet]

On the eve of the Day of Russian Science, which has been celebrated on February 1999 since 8, the All-Russian Center for the Study of Public Opinion (VTsIOM) tested the knowledge of Russians. January 29-30, 2011, 1600 Russians were asked 13 simple questions from various fields of knowledge. The results surprised researchers a lot (see table).
A third (32%) of respondents believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth. And a year earlier, 28% of our compatriots thought so. 62% answered the basic question correctly. 6% - there was no answer at all. And 20% are sure that the Earth completes a complete revolution around the Sun in one month. 76% of Russians believe that the center of the earth is hot. 78% know that the oxygen we breathe comes from plants. But 11% are sure that radioactive milk can be made safe by simply boiling it. And as many as 55% have no doubt that all radioactivity is the work of human hands.
The fact that atoms are smaller than electrons, 18% of Russians are sure. 71% of our compatriots have heard that the continents on which we live have been moving for millions of years and will continue to move in the future.
The fact that the first people lived in the same era as dinosaurs, 29% of Russians do not doubt. Of the fact that modern people evolved from early human species, 61% of Russians are sure. At the same time, 20% of Russians for some reason are sure that the genes of the mother determine the sex of the child.
46% believe that antibiotics kill viruses as well as bacteria. 26% believe that the laser works by focusing sound waves. Scientific fallacies are more common among women than men. So, women more often believe that radioactivity is the work of human hands (58% versus 51% among men), believe in the ability of antibiotics to kill viruses like bacteria (48% versus 43%, respectively), and are more likely to claim that the Sun is a satellite of the Earth (34% versus 29%, respectively). However, there is an exception: men more often than women believe that the laser works by focusing sound waves (29% versus 23% among women).

[Forest]

There is nothing to nod abroad, it is no better with us either. It is necessary to restore science and education at home, and not to come up with a 2-3 curriculum for a year, and obviously under your own plan, which is smoked.

[a housewife]

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Whiskey

I would like the same information about the inhabitants of Israel. As for July 12 - a far-fetched holiday. It is supposed that this was - that’s what they appointed, no matter how you name it. Independence ... Actually, we were in a referendum for the Union. From whom is independence? Russia Day. Like a city day. About the flag. There was one report - they asked women working in America at a flag-making enterprise how many stars on the American flag - none answered. The spread was from 40 to 60. What they mean, these stars - none knew. When they were asked how many stripes on the American flag, they replied that they didn’t know at all, because the stripes were sewn in another workshop. The reasons for the second world historians just can’t agree on what you want from ordinary people? And in Israel, what is your opinion on this? There are no illiterates in Russia. Let them write with errors, but they write. And there are plenty of illiterate Americans. Somehow I refused to sign one worthless piece of paper. When asked why, I replied that I was illiterate. The man correctly understood the mockery, turned and left. It is difficult to imagine the illiterate in our country.

[Karabanov]

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It is difficult to imagine the illiterate in our country.

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As for July 12 - a far-fetched holiday.

Actually, JUNE 12. This is me about illiteracy ... So just in case.
Your patriotism deserves respect, but somehow you already run over.

[a housewife]

So because I don’t remember - July, June, name ... Another constitution day, which is changing all the time. On May 9, no one will be confused with anything! The holiday suffered by the people.

[silver_roman]

However, the vast majority of Americans are not only ignorant and do not know the basic facts of history and science, but also brazenly flaunt their ignorance, "apparently not feeling the need to learn lessons or improve their knowledge."

And why should they learn or do anything if they have turned into biomass, which consumes many times more than it produces!

In the article, the author lists many measures that are designed to correct the situation, but what's the point? They have gone too far for this to turn everything around. This is perfect: you are full of zombies who do what they are told. They have a couple of percent, but everything keeps on. Many migrants who have taken up science.
But, what is most interesting: the American people are far from stupid, very hardworking, they just assimilated them and artificially plunged them into a situation of degradation. And what about the choice of a new president: even though they will elect a table for the president, nothing will change. Although the table can be more useful than Obama, you can sit and write at it, he drinks less than honey beer

[gammipapa]

The sun revolves around the Earth, it's stupid, we need to tell them that it revolves around America.

Although we probably have a lot more, the people are dumbing with terrible force.

[marinier]

Gospoda, ne dlia-kogo sekret, 4ito polosati lycifer, ne gramoten, vishe een gospodin setoval 4ito oni pri etom zapusk raket kosmos, itd, itp.4to-je eto pravda, no gospodin pri eto mol4it (DUMATI ja po nazosaniij) lycifer zanimat plagiat en peremanit nau4nij mozgi, + promishlen spionaze.Pri etom polosat-lycifer tolko za s4et USSR (Veliki Land), obespe4il 4% matematik. 50% fizik, 39% ximik, svoi potrebnosti.A USSR podimn LAND, pri eto ne zabivat plotit lend-liz polosat lycifer.

[Xsanchez]

Write in the Cyrillic alphabet, I broke my eyes while I read it!

[Massik]

According to the results of a large sociological survey conducted by Newsweek magazine, 44 percent of Americans cannot figure out the sections of the Bill of Rights. According to other sources, two-thirds of Americans can not name a single judge of the Supreme Court. 29% do not know the name of the current vice president. Intercollegiate Studies Institute studies showed that only half of Americans among the respondents were able to correctly identify all three branches of the federal government

In relation to our country, for me it is generally a dark forest. So where do I get these rights sections? Or names from the State Duma? And the name of the vice-premier ....

[Lyubteh]

But do not touch Igor Prokopenko, he is doing the right thing with respect to the past of RUSI, few dare to do this, let alone talk about it. Here you have to be either a suicide or he has a patron who can be one for the whole of Tartary Muscovy and Vienna. For a tree without roots is doomed to dry, and our ancestors had a great past. So let us not cut off the roots.

[Xsanchez]

And I like Prokopenko: sometimes it covers very interesting questions. There are a lot of truth and propaganda, but there are also completely crazy topics.

[Tolianych]

[quote = Flyer] [quote = article]
By the way, I already recalled a couple of times here when two girls of 9-16 years old were standing next to a salute on May 17 and asked the other when the Great Patriotic War ended. At a salute dedicated to this event. They just knew that there would be a salute and came to him, and in honor of which the salute did not know. This is not in the USA, it is with us. Can write an article on this subject? [/ Quote]

Recently, an 18-year-old girl, an excellent student living in Volgograd), asked - when did she start?
2nd world? I used to ask about Aurora, but now it’s not relevant ...) I thought it would mix up the 41st and 39th ... no, she said she didn’t know about such an event ... and plus or minus 50 years, she also hadn’t given a date ... My son friend in the fifth grade homework asked in Russian. language - underline consonants in one color, vowels in another ...
"We lost space to the Russians at the school desk" - John Fitzgerald Kennedy.