Two Tu-142 made "worry" the crew of "Ronald Reagan"

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The Pentagon reveals details of the reasons for the alarm, on which 27 of October raised the sailors of the US Navy in the Sea of ​​Japan. At the same time from the deck of the aircraft carrier "Ronald Reagan" American fighters urgently rose. It turned out that the cause of the alarming work of the American "partners" was the approach to the US Navy aircraft carrier of two Russian DPLS (long-range anti-submarine aircraft) Tu-142 (NATO classification Bear-F).

Pentagon spokesman Bill Urban quotes RIA News:
I can confirm that the two Russian TU-142 "Bear" approached the aircraft carrier "Ronald Reagan" in the morning of October 27. "Ronald Reagan" conducted operations in the Sea of ​​Japan. Four F-18 aircraft were raised to intercept. The closest point as the two Russian Tu-142s approached the Ronald Reagan was the 1 nautical mile at 500 feet (about 152 m).


Two Tu-142 made "worry" the crew of "Ronald Reagan"


According to Urbana, on the aircraft carrier the approach was regarded as "exciting, but safe."

The aircraft carrier "Ronald Reagan", while in the Sea of ​​Japan, participated in joint maneuvers with the South Korean Navy. According to the official representative of the 7th fleet US Lieutenant Lauren Cole, US troops tried to make radio contact with Russian pilots, but no response was received. Tu-142 left the training area and, according to Cole, for some time the fighters escorted the Russian Air Force aircraft over neutral waters.

At the same time, the United States declares that there is nothing terrible about the flights of “some states” planes over the exercise areas, but “such actions must be carried out in accordance with international standards”. I wonder what? Are not those who constantly violate the States themselves? ..
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  1. +85
    29 October 2015 19: 38
    Probably impressive flight of such a colossus at an altitude of 152 meters! And two especially.
    1. +80
      29 October 2015 19: 40
      Given the fact that the TU-142 is the same TU-95 in size, of course it is impressive wink

      1. +25
        29 October 2015 20: 07
        Yeah, the size is impressive: 50 meters long and 50 wide (in terms of wing span) - half the football field
        The performance characteristics of the Tu-142M

        Crew 10 people
        Power plant 4 turboprop engines NK 12MB
        power 11 033 kilowatts (14 795 hp)
        Top speed 850 km / h
        Service ceiling 10 700 m
        Flight range with max. 12 km load
        Maximum take-off weight 185 kg
        Wingspan 50 m
        Total length 48,17 m
        Height is about 12,12 m
        Wing Area 289 9 m2
        Armament two 23-mm AM-23 cannons in the tail turret for self-defense, depth charges, aerial bombs and torpedoes

        And the sound of motors - you hear!
        1. -11
          29 October 2015 20: 48
          a big target, if not covered !!!
          1. 0
            29 October 2015 22: 21
            worried shouting again, but there’s nothing to stand on our road wink
            1. +12
              30 October 2015 07: 29
              Quote: Vorobey-1
              preoccupied screaming again

              "The United States declares that there is nothing wrong with the flights of aircraft of" some states "over the areas of the exercises ..." Well, where are they shouting? Don't get turned on, normal work of the military on both sides. soldier
              1. +1
                30 October 2015 09: 12
                Two Tu-142 made "worry" the crew of "Ronald Reagan"
          2. +17
            29 October 2015 22: 41
            Quote: Alesha
            a big target, if not covered !!!


            You are mistaken. My good friend flew on MiG31 and somehow they were sent to intercept a pair of Tu95. A training session, so to speak, some work out the interception, others counteract the interception. So, when approaching the strategists, they cut such an obstacle that all 31x equipment gave light and the only thing that the interceptor could do was simulate an attack from a cannon with a machine gun, and only one Mig could do it. And that was in the 90s.
            1. +3
              29 October 2015 23: 28
              Anyway, the target is without cover ... This is an axiom - the bomber carries gifts, the interceptor guards. Although yes, I agree with the fact that the target can tear off the genals of the enemy as well.
              1. +2
                30 October 2015 05: 48
                Quote: RainDragon
                Anyway, the target is without cover ..

                It doesn’t happen ..
                1. +9
                  30 October 2015 05: 51
                  Quote: exalex2
                  It doesn’t happen ..

                  I'm sorry, but what cover in peacetime the American P-3 Orion or RC-135 flying along our maritime borders in the Far East?
            2. +10
              30 October 2015 05: 55
              Quote: yushch
              You are mistaken. A good friend of mine flew on MiG31 and somehow they were sent to intercept a pair of Tu95. One training session, so to speak, some work out the interception, others counteract the interception. So, when approaching the strategists, they cut such an obstacle that all the 31x equipment gave light and freaked out.


              Twenty years ago, the latest modifications of the Tu-20MS, thanks to the electronic warfare system that was perfect at that time, had a reputation as a "non-shot down aircraft". On the anti-submarine Tu-95, the avionics complex is different. It has not undergone modernization and is largely outdated.
              1. +2
                30 October 2015 07: 43
                I mean, after all, aircraft of this class are not an unambiguously large target without cover, and in light of the latest news about modernization and the release of new strategists, the Tu-142 may well fall under this wave.
          3. 0
            1 November 2015 13: 58
            Quote: Alesha
            a big target, if not covered !!!

            There would be a reason.
        2. +5
          30 October 2015 03: 10
          Quote: pvv113
          Yeah, the size is impressive: 50 meters long and 50 wide (in terms of wing span) - half the football field

          Impressive, and then what? These aircraft are not a real threat to the ACG. As part of the Pacific Fleet aviation, in flight, no more than 6 Tu-142 remained; they rarely fly into the air.
          1. +5
            30 October 2015 07: 42
            This is how they do not represent? Armed with bombs and torpedoes, the plane flies to the ship at a distance of MILES! And does it pose a threat? How long will he fly this mile? That is: in a few seconds, bombs will fly to the deck, and torpedoes will come on board! This is me about an imaginary attack in this particular case. In general, the invulnerability of an aircraft carrier group is an American bluff. Just nobody seriously attacked them. I remember that even the Arabs on the boat once dug into their side: overslept!
            1. +3
              30 October 2015 08: 12
              Quote: samuil60
              Armed with bombs and torpedoes, the plane flies to the ship at a distance of MILES!


              Armed with him, and at a distance of 200 km will not fly up. Shot down before he determines the position of the AUG
          2. +6
            30 October 2015 08: 15
            Quote: Bongo
            print, and then what? These aircraft are not a real threat to the ACG. As part of the Pacific Fleet aviation, in flight, no more than 6 Tu-142 remained; they rarely fly into the air.


            We lack Tu-214p. The campaign was hacked to death, otherwise it would be an excellent answer to P-8



            Although to replace the Tu-142, IL-96p would probably be more suitable.
            1. +1
              30 October 2015 09: 11
              P-8 is an analogue of the Il-38H filling. And they are late for a couple of years
              1. +3
                30 October 2015 13: 07
                Quote: LVMI1980
                P-8 is an analogue of the Il-38H filling. And they are late for a couple of years


                Analog Mi-38Н


                This is P-3С Orion



                But similar to P-8 in IL-38Н



                Let me think - NOTHING
      2. +1
        29 October 2015 22: 49
        pindo * s now probably have full pants of impressions laughing
      3. 0
        30 October 2015 10: 16
        I wanted to fuliganize something. I remembered a poem of youth about cigarettes of the TU brand and rephrased: Aircraft of the TU brand, to Americans replace a member in their mouth! laughing
      4. -3
        30 October 2015 10: 53
        most likely this is still a bike, for they would have been knocked down, regarding it as a direct threat to the safety of an aircraft carrier :)
    2. 0
      29 October 2015 19: 44
      Some twitching these Americans ... will they ever get out of an inadequate state? bully
      And the sight of "cubs" never pleased them at all, because the Yankees' point is not titanium. laughing
      1. +12
        29 October 2015 21: 01
        Twitching, not twitching. Personally, I am pleased when they are JACKING. For me, it's better to jerk than indicate.
      2. +1
        29 October 2015 23: 31
        Yes, with heavier trousers you can’t especially point out) And twitching - they have such a life. Understand that if war, then the Tu-142 is the last plane that they will see
        1. +1
          30 October 2015 08: 34
          They finally can’t see this plane, the last thing they see is a flash and a pillar of fire. So let them rejoice that they see him.
      3. +2
        29 October 2015 23: 37
        Quote: Ruthless
        And the sight of "cubs" never pleased them at all, because the Yankees' point is not titanium.

        So this is a game of "Russian roulette" ... a Russian "bear" flies and God knows what he is carrying in his paws. Maybe a bag of sweets, or maybe an X-102 in a gift box.
      4. +3
        31 October 2015 20: 54
        Some twitching these Americans ... will they ever get out of an inadequate state? bully
        And the sight of "cubs" never pleased them at all, because the Yankees' point is not titanium. laughing

        Brains should be included with titanium, and no sense whatsoever, it is more efficient to use rubber to extend the life of the titanium.
    3. +2
      29 October 2015 19: 52
      Tu-114, Nikita drove to America on this, just based on the Tu-142 was made, strangely bombers survived a civilian plane much.
      1. +36
        29 October 2015 20: 01
        Sweles, TU - 114 is a TU-95 cut across and extended by a 13-meter fuselage insert. And not only Khrushchev flew on it. The plane flew on the Moscow - Havana line through a military airfield in Murmansk. In 1966, the writer of this commentary flew there precisely in the month of August.
        1. +15
          29 October 2015 22: 49
          Tu-114 is not Tu-95. They have a lot in common, but the main difference between the passenger Tu-114 is that it is low-wing, and the Tu-95 mid-wing. The low wing layout provides space for the passenger compartment. Well, the Tu-95 really served as the basis for the development of the Tu-114
          Pictured Tu-95MSPictured Tu-95MS
        2. +4
          30 October 2015 07: 51
          Quote: tolian
          And not only Khrushchev flew on it.

          It was actively used by Aeroflot on long-haul flights, both domestic and international. Moscow - Khabarovsk, in April 1968 the Tu-114s began flying to Tashkent, from October - to Alma-Ata, from June 1970 a flight to Chukotka, to Anadyr, including via Khabarovsk (previously operated on Il- 18 with intermediate landings), since the summer of 1971 - to Novosibirsk. Tu-114th flew abroad in various directions, both to Europe and America, as well as to Asia and Africa. The main destinations for which this liner was used constantly or occasionally were: Copenhagen, Paris, Amsterdam, London, Rome, Milan, Belgrade, Montreal, Delhi, Accra, Brazzaville, Tokyo, São Paulo, New York, Beijing Zurich.
          One of the planes stood as a monument to the Domodedovo airport, my wife and I took pictures against the backdrop of this car in 1982. Unfortunately he is no more ...
          The photo is clickable.
          1. 0
            30 October 2015 08: 29
            Quote: Bayonet

            One of the planes stood as a monument to the Domodedovo airport, my wife and I took pictures against the backdrop of this car in 1982. Unfortunately he is no more ...
            The photo is clickable.

            What happened to him? Who raised his hand to such a handsome man?
            1. +2
              30 October 2015 14: 47
              Quote: BIGLESHIY
              What happened to him?

              In July 2006, in connection with the reconstruction of the airport, it was ruthlessly broken, turned into a pile of shapeless debris to the joy of buyers of non-ferrous scrap. One of the reasons for this barbaric act was the expansion of parking for cars. All this is strange also because many aviation museums, including foreign ones, would surely have accepted an airplane even in a substandard form.
        3. +1
          31 October 2015 01: 21
          Quote: tolian
          TU - 114 is TU-95 cut across and extended by a 13-meter fuselage insert.

          There were no inserts. The Tu-114 had a completely different fuselage larger than the Tu-95 diameter. And the center section of the Tu-114 is located in the lower part of the fuselage, and not in the middle, as in the Tu-95.
      2. +4
        29 October 2015 21: 24
        strange bomber survived a civilian plane much
        In the passenger fleet of Europe, strict requirements were adopted for the level of sound / noise emitted by aircraft. After which they ceased to be allowed into their airfields ..
        And this good airplane turbine buzzing what you need ..!
        1. +1
          29 October 2015 21: 42
          Quote: Tra-ta-ta
          In the passenger fleet of Europe, strict requirements were adopted for the level of sound / noise emitted by aircraft. After which they ceased to be allowed into their airfields ..
          And this good airplane turbine buzzing what you need ..!

          Well, I would fly inside the country, thanks to us, the distances are rather big. Here you can see the chip in the engines. Voracious however.
          1. +2
            30 October 2015 02: 12
            Quote: shuhartred
            Well, I would fly inside the country

            By that time, IL-62 had already appeared, he replaced the Tu-114
          2. +7
            30 October 2015 09: 57
            Voracious however.

            Not in the engines. This is the most economical and powerful engine, otherwise it would not provide an intercontinental range to the car. Its engines are unique in terms of efficiency and power. He would make modern sickle-shaped blades that make less noise ... At the expense of noise - yes ... They say it even the acoustics of submarines hear and identify))).
            1. +2
              30 October 2015 10: 50
              Not the engines are unique in terms of efficiency, but the mover: a combination of an engine and 2 screws.
          3. +1
            31 October 2015 01: 32
            Quote: shuhartred
            Here you can see the chip in the engines. Voracious however.

            NK-12MV are considered one of the most economical engines in terms of fuel consumption per unit of power.
      3. +3
        29 October 2015 22: 40
        Quote: Sveles
        strange bomber survived a civilian plane much.

        Nothing strange, there is such a noise from the engines that just drain the water. The military doesn’t like this, but civilian airliners howling at take-off to the whole city are not comme il faut.
      4. 0
        29 October 2015 23: 23
        Quote: Sveles
        Strange bombers survived a civilian plane much.

        Passenger comfort did not enter the 21 century.
      5. 0
        30 October 2015 12: 00
        Khrushchev flew on a Tu-95 bomber, literally in the bomb bay, which was hastily converted into a cabin at the Kuibyshev Aviation Plant (now Samara Aviakor)
    4. +7
      29 October 2015 19: 58
      Quote: Alexander2012
      Probably impressive flight of such a colossus at an altitude of 152 meters! And two especially.

      Especially after the incident with the SU-24 and Donald Cook, the mattress covers are now too impressionable.
      1. -1
        29 October 2015 21: 07
        Impressive !? It is they who have not yet encountered our army. In the first clash, they asked for Russian citizenship with a white flag in their hands.
      2. +7
        30 October 2015 03: 14
        Quote: vovanpain
        Especially after the incident with the SU-24 and Donald Cook, the mattress covers are now too impressionable.

        Widely publicized in a number of domestic media and causing a surge of “cheers-patriotic” sentiment, the incident with the alleged “blinding” of the radar equipment of the USS Donald Cook destroyer (DDG-75) unfortunately, not true... Since, due to financial constraints, the Khibiny L-175V electronic warfare system never Su-24M was not installed on airplanes.


        Su-24MK model with container KS-418E of the Khibiny REP complex

        The 1990-2000-e worked out the container case version of the KS-418E with the Khibiny REP model for export Su-24MK, but the matter did not move further than the construction of the models.
        1. +5
          30 October 2015 07: 55
          Quote: Bongo
          The Khibiny L-175V electronic warfare system has never been installed on Su-24M aircraft.

          This is true ! And judging by the many minuses, you are personally to blame. smile I sympathize hi
          1. +5
            30 October 2015 10: 55
            Quote: Bayonet
            This is true ! And judging by the many minuses, you are personally to blame.

            I wrote the same thing in my recent publication: "Service and combat use of the front-line bomber Su-24". Where in the most accessible language a lot is stated concerning this machine. But apparently those who sincerely believe in the Khibiny on the Su-24 prefer to remain in the dark. fool
            Quote: Bayonet
            I sympathize

            Nothing, even funny! lol I have already outgrown the moment when "ratings" interested me. drinks
            1. 0
              30 October 2015 14: 45
              Quote: Bongo
              I have already outgrown the moment when "ratings" interested me

              drinks drinks hi
        2. 0
          30 October 2015 10: 35
          Are you a military expert? And how old are you?
    5. +13
      29 October 2015 20: 27
      It’s necessary to constantly strain the Americans - and even all sorts of Mexicans who have hired a green card think of themselves as people holding God’s balls for eggs! You need to do these things so regularly that they understand for themselves - Russia, with all due respect to everyone to other nations, it’s not even Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Syria, Lebanon, etc., it’s a country that put any aggressor in the pose of a sow, no matter what advanced technologies he does not exist!
      1. +2
        29 October 2015 20: 40
        Recently, the Americans have greatly relaxed from their impunity. But now the realities are different, and they just cannot come to an adequate state. For themselves, they are in fact "glavnyuk" in the world. Nowadays, you can run into trouble for this.
    6. +7
      29 October 2015 20: 30

      Every May 9th and rehearsals before that fly over my balcony, though a little higher, but also normal.

      They look and buzz impressively


      1. 0
        29 October 2015 23: 26
        Quote: bulvas
        a little taller, but okay too.

        Flying over the city below 250 meters, even in parades, is strictly forbidden. But if a military airfield is nearby, then anything happens.
        1. +2
          30 October 2015 17: 47
          Quote: shasherin.pavel
          Flying over the city below 250 meters, even in parades, is strictly forbidden. But if a military airfield is nearby, then anything happens.

          Years in the 90s mountains. Novokuznetsk in the evening in the red rays of sunset, with a turn and a decline, passed over the railway station TU-95. Height 500 meters. One of the stunning paintings in my life. I am silent about the soundtrack. The behavior of people was most struck; people simply went about their business. My heart sank, I thought it was falling, the city center! Then I watch everything regularly. Passed and turned into a set. Still can't understand what it was?
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    8. +9
      29 October 2015 20: 45
      He served in the Air Force over his head, almost touching the tops of trees. Tu-95 prosh it was something with something !!!
    9. 0
      29 October 2015 21: 14
      Two Tu-142 made "worry" the crew of "Ronald Reagan"
      . yes they have a phobia ... after COOK ..
      (27 members of the destroyer's crew submitted their resignation. ... "Donald Cook" -)
      1. 0
        30 October 2015 14: 29
        What ate the Cook Dryer?
    10. Tor5
      0
      29 October 2015 22: 09
      But what mattresses are so obkakeshkovsky?
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    12. +1
      29 October 2015 23: 19
      In Olenegorsk, the Su-24 (first series) was not shot down by a wing of an antenna on a nine-story building, and there is no exaggeration, I watched this from 500 meters straight along the flight, there was panic in the streets. After half a year, another distinguished himself, this one I saw from the tractor cab from the ambulance yard, this is a hill in the city built up, so I saw its upper wing plane. So I present the picture.
    13. +1
      30 October 2015 05: 07
      The closest point when two Russian Tu-142s approached the Ronald Reagan was 1 nautical mile at an altitude of 500 feet (about 152 m).

      With a rapprochement at a distance of 1 nautical mile in wartime, the Reagan has no chance of survival. And it’s silly to lift planes at such a distance. Well, maybe spread the red carpet ...
      1. +1
        30 October 2015 12: 06
        why stupid? Save the planes and answer the offender ...
    14. 0
      30 October 2015 07: 25
      Quote: Alexander2012
      Probably impressive flight of such a colossus at an altitude of 152 meters! And two especially.

      If over your head, then yes! And at a distance of 1 mile - not really smile
    15. 0
      30 October 2015 09: 49
      Maybe they went on landing on an aircraft carrier? As in the famous bike about inviting an Amer fighter to a similar one.
  2. +22
    29 October 2015 19: 38
    Tickle the nerves of the American Navy and at the same time support China on the issue of the disputed islands.
    1. +8
      29 October 2015 19: 45
      Quote: Sith Lord
      Tickle the nerves of the American Navy and at the same time

      At the same time, look for American submarines, which were somewhere near the AUG, and train.
    2. +3
      29 October 2015 20: 01
      Tickle the nerves of the American Navy and at the same time support China on the issue of the disputed islands.

      Just training to destroy an aircraft carrier.
      1. +5
        29 October 2015 21: 13
        Well no. Just the cows farmers were transported in bomb bombs. Purely civilian traffic.
      2. +7
        30 October 2015 03: 19
        Quote: figvam
        Just training to destroy an aircraft carrier.

        Aircraft of all Tu-142 modifications are "sharpened" on anti-submarine tasks. RCCs are not included in the typical composition of the armament of this aircraft, although of course the aircraft carrier can be sank with caps, especially the American one.
        1. 0
          30 October 2015 10: 39
          Expert - How old are you?
  3. +10
    29 October 2015 19: 38
    Wow, what's this time without hysteria?
    Something needs to be changed laughing
    1. +2
      29 October 2015 20: 01
      Quote: arane
      Wow, what's this time without hysteria?laughing


      This is just her new level:

      The sea is worried - time! The sea is worried - two!
      The sea is worried - three! Sea figure ("Ronald Reagan") - freeze! laughing
  4. +3
    29 October 2015 19: 39
    US garbage carriers compared to THIS weapons:
    Former Minister of Defense of Russia Anatoly Serdyukov has been appointed industrial director for the aviation industry at Rostec State Corporation, RIA Novosti reports.
    1. +2
      29 October 2015 19: 44
      industrial director, what kind of bird is that? Responsible for industrial policy in the aviation industry?
    2. +3
      29 October 2015 19: 48
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      US garbage carriers compared to THIS weapons:
      Former Minister of Defense of Russia Anatoly Serdyukov has been appointed industrial director for the aviation industry at Rostec State Corporation, RIA Novosti reports.


      What can I say about this fact, apparently the aviation industry of the state corporation "Rostec" needs to be reformed. We are waiting for the command "girls with dogs" without them the stool will not start. wassat
  5. +2
    29 October 2015 19: 39
    A date with the Tu-142 is truly an exciting event! It’s not for you to arrange fake fires on the deck - here fireworks could be truly bewitching!
    1. +16
      29 October 2015 19: 46
      Quote: BMP-2
      A date with the Tu-142 is truly an exciting event! It’s not for you to arrange fake fires on the deck - here fireworks could be truly bewitching!


      For them, probably ....
      When their Orions in 10 meters flew over our masts, no one was worried, so they threw potatoes at him. I have pictures, I can post it tomorrow.
      1. +8
        29 October 2015 20: 14
        You teach them, and then bam-second shift ...
        This is certainly not a TU-95, but Orion is present there. Even thin. the film shows the tension. And the departure of TU-16 at the end is just something ...
        1. -19
          29 October 2015 22: 12
          Why don't ours use Tu-16? For me, so he will be cooler than the "bear". The Chinese fly for a sweet soul. And then when such a rarity appears in the air (I'm talking about the 95th), it becomes a shame for the state. It belongs to him in a museum.
          1. +6
            30 October 2015 08: 11
            I would like you, dear, to stand next to the runway at least once, at the moment the Tu-95 takes off, when it passes 10-15 meters above your head! The impression is as if all the "insides" are turning inside out for you, for the first time it was scary, and then we got used to it! I had a five-year work on the reconstruction of an airfield in Uzin, Kiev region, and there I faced this wonderful car every day I came to the conclusion that that this aircraft is not so "outdated", but quite even suitable for modern conditions! Moreover, it is modernized, because in fact all its "insides" are modern and the weapons are completely new, so it's too early to send this most reliable aircraft to the museum, let it still serve! And there you see, our people will invent something new!
            1. +11
              30 October 2015 08: 51
              And I served on TU-95 as a technician, I can say that you can sleep peacefully under the noise of the engines, even lull him to sleep. As for the amers, I don’t know why they got so divided, in Soviet times they were always caught in the ocean and it was normally considered
            2. -2
              30 October 2015 10: 49
              Every day, colliding with this wonderful machine, I came to the conclusion that this aircraft is not so "outdated", but quite even suitable for modern conditions

              Of course fit. Can fly alright smile more is not required of him. And the fact that it will take off beautifully and pass over my head will greatly help the defense of our country. I will reveal to you a military secret: the Tu-95 flies because we do not have a sufficient number of aircraft (I do not even say "modern aircraft") to fulfill the tasks assigned to the Ministry of Defense.
              But of course, they will invent it only when these inventions fly up in the air?
              1. 0
                30 October 2015 11: 54
                Quote: GOgaRu
                I will reveal to you a military secret: the Tu-95 flies because we do not have a sufficient number of aircraft (I do not even say "modern aircraft") to fulfill the tasks assigned to the Ministry of Defense.

                Thoughtfully* And his peer in the service, too, for the same reason (am I talking about the main strategist of the US Air Force until 2040)? feel

                The task of the Tu-95 is to go into a given area and unload the revolver and underwing suspensions. And he can calmly fulfill this task. Especially when you consider that if it is used for its intended purpose by the time it arrives at the launch line, the enemy’s air defense system will be pretty pokotsat ... and there will be problems with the passage of radio signals.
          2. +3
            30 October 2015 11: 51
            Quote: GOgaRu
            Why don't ours use Tu-16? For me, so he will be cooler than the "bear". The Chinese fly for a sweet soul. And then when such a rarity appears in the air (I'm talking about the 95th), it becomes a shame for the state. It belongs to him in a museum.

            Ah ha ha ... the first flight of the Tu-16 - April 1952. The first flight of the Tu-95 - November 1952. And who is here a rarity to which a place in a museum? what

            I'm not talking about the combat radius and load of the Tu-95/142 (compared to the Tu-16).

            By the way, in April 1952, another plane took off for the first time - for many years it became one of the symbols bloody American imperialism. ICH, he is still in the service and is not going to resign until 2040.
            1. 0
              30 October 2015 18: 37
              By the way, in April 1952, another plane first flew into the air - for many years it became one of the symbols of bloody American imperialism. ICH, he is still in the service and is not going to resign until 2040.

              When I look at this photo, I have no questions why one will serve and the other should go to rest.
            2. +3
              31 October 2015 21: 22
              I read somewhere that the Americans wanted to upgrade the power plant on the B52, in order to improve operational characteristics. They thought and argued for a long time, and so they left their native engines. request
      2. 0
        29 October 2015 22: 20
        It would be interesting to look. I myself observed with my own eyes, although not so close!
    2. -1
      29 October 2015 21: 02
      It was not in vain that the K-142 machine gun was made, so that our flyers could safely land their aircraft carriers on the deck of their low altitude, however.
  6. +1
    29 October 2015 19: 42
    According to Urbana, on the aircraft carrier the approach was regarded as "exciting, but safe."
    Well dirty your diapers put on new ones. And worry. You are not who will not offend. fool
  7. 0
    29 October 2015 19: 43
    Did the mattresses find the bears a mile away? They were rightly scared. Our bears were left on deck to throw a message of greetings to the Reagan from the bears.
    1. 0
      30 October 2015 08: 21
      I must tell you that I had to listen to "aviation stories" from the flyers of the Uzin Air Division YES about how they dropped a string bag full of Pamir cigarettes on the deck of an American aircraft carrier (as a gift) and there were many more stories about almost anecdotal cases. tell how on 3-4 days after the newspapers published reports about the sea trials of "Nimitz" I found in the bedside tables of my fighters his gorgeous photos (for demobilization albums)! So it was so long ago and I think during this time a lot has changed and "hello" to Reagan they can send whoa!
  8. +1
    29 October 2015 19: 43
    Most annoying are the moments when the pale-faced partners begin to scratch, international rules and regulations about scratching.
    1. +1
      29 October 2015 20: 04
      According to the latest international standards established by M. Obama, when meeting with a marine object, you need to launch it with a bottle of champagne, and so that it does not crash! laughing
    2. 0
      29 October 2015 21: 18
      Why annoying? International law is the right of the strong. Well showed strength. Our right. And who is stronger? Strong America fighting for years is a force? What is the strength? In newtons?
  9. +5
    29 October 2015 19: 44
    US military tried to make radio contact with Russian pilots

    Learn the Great and Mighty Russian language! And you will be happy laughing
  10. yan 2015
    -7
    29 October 2015 19: 45
    please excuse me .. and on board the aircraft carrier, in addition to panic and hysteria, I hope there were no other excesses such as a mass departure of the crew from the ship. THERE ARE INFORMATION TU-142 are carriers of Khibin type electronic warfare.)
    1. +10
      29 October 2015 20: 16
      Quote: yan 2015
      please excuse me .. and on board the aircraft carrier, in addition to panic and hysteria, I hope there were no other excesses such as a mass departure of the crew from the ship. THERE ARE INFORMATION TU-142 are carriers of Khibin type electronic warfare.)


      Where do these come from?
      Not only are they bad, you write as Sharikov "THERE IS INFORMATION", in capital letters as a military secret.
      So also illiterate even in the names of the Russian mountains are confused.

      Within the meaning of.
      There is no and will not be on the Tu-142 Khibiny complex.
      Because it is designed for much smaller aircraft, with a much smaller EPR size than the Tu-142 / Tu-95.

      The installation of this electronic warfare system on such a huge aircraft is insignificant in its idea. it's like stitching camouflage fabric the size of a playing card onto the military camisole of the Transfiguration Regiment of the 19 century.

      D, B!
      1. +5
        29 October 2015 20: 52
        I don’t know exactly about the Tu-142, but on the Tu-95MS there is an electronic warfare "Meteor" complex and it weighs a little over one and a half tons.
        1. yan 2015
          +5
          29 October 2015 21: 08
          Tu-142M / Tu-142MK counter-jamming station SPS-100 "Reseda-A" counteraction to radio sights of fighters,
          Tu-142M3 "Sayany-M"
          Onboard defense complex and all.

          just a friend aggravation of the autumn. happens.
          1. +3
            29 October 2015 22: 13
            Quote: yan 2015

            just a friend aggravation of the autumn. happens.



            Is it you about yourself that are so self-critical?
            At first they shouted about Khibiny, now they bothered to see something somewhere?

            The Khibiny "hails" from Smalta with Sorption (doped so to speak) and they were never put on bombers.
            Another system.
            No need to invent what is not.
            And nobody will tell you anything you don’t like.

            Because you are giving out a "military secret" - you are lying!
        2. +2
          29 October 2015 21: 17
          Quote: Iline
          I don’t know exactly about the Tu-142, but on the Tu-95MS there is an electronic warfare "Meteor" complex and it weighs a little over one and a half tons.


          Meteor-NM is over 30 years old however.
          And the ideas of its design are still at 10 years older.
          Moore’s law, however, does not get out of it ...
    2. +5
      29 October 2015 23: 40
      Khibiny - mountains in the center of the Kola Peninsula, in the south of the mountains they extract the mineral for fertilizers "apatite" from this name of the city of Apatity. Quite recently, "pyramids" were discovered in the Khibiny, and there is also a rock on the shore of Lake Umbozero, on the top of which a human foot has not yet set, and it's not about the difficulty of climbing; the mysticism that surrounds the rock. They try not to get up for the night under the slope of the mountain, but they catch fish in the lake.
  11. +2
    29 October 2015 19: 52
    Something was remembered. One T-16 crew has already died on a low-altitude aircraft carrier fly-by.

    Is it worth it?
    1. 0
      29 October 2015 23: 48
      Quote: gladcu2
      killed on low-level aircraft carrier
      dodging interference, he hooked his wing on the water.
  12. 0
    29 October 2015 19: 55
    Quote: yan 2015
    THERE IS INFORMATION TU-142 are carriers of Khibin type electronic warfare.

    Yes, even "Rubella", that it changes ...
  13. +1
    29 October 2015 19: 56
    That's lucky .. they looked at Tu 142 at a low altitude ..) They do not understand their happiness)
    1. -3
      29 October 2015 22: 40
      There this happiness flies in the sea .. For one trip for a lifetime, take a look!
  14. -2
    29 October 2015 19: 56
    It seems to me that at the request of our Chinese comrades, ours designated "who is who" and where they were seen.
  15. -2
    29 October 2015 20: 01
    Accustomed to reign supreme, but here is our, dear, "nakus vykus" Get used to adversaries.
  16. -9
    29 October 2015 20: 05
    http://coub.com/view/7d0wa
  17. +4
    29 October 2015 20: 13
    About 15 years ago, in the Pacific Ocean, our plane, creeping up quietly, not seen by anyone, at low altitude, passed over the very deck of an American aircraft carrier, and while the Americans lifted the wing, managed to leave. The scandal was awesome.
    1. +3
      29 October 2015 21: 23
      And what is the reason for the scandal? Didn’t notice on time and all responsible were fired? Or slowly raised the wing?
  18. 0
    29 October 2015 20: 13
    Then, from the deck of the aircraft carrier “Ronald Reagan”, American fighters urgently rose. It turned out that the cause of the alarming work of the American "partners" was the approach to the aircraft carrier of the US Navy two Russian DPS (long-range anti-submarine aircraft) Tu-142

    Dumped from there probably decided quickly)
  19. -1
    29 October 2015 20: 14
    Yes, our "Bear" cannot be compared with anyone. Was present at takeoff, the sensations are just flying away good
  20. -1
    29 October 2015 20: 17
    Now let them fall asleep in nightmares and wake up in a cold and sticky sweat! It’s not your language ...
  21. +3
    29 October 2015 20: 26
    Tu142 are the only vehicles capable of detecting an aircraft carrier in the sea, but it has nothing to threaten an aircraft carrier with, for it is a PLO plane.
    1. -2
      29 October 2015 23: 52
      Quote: Mera Joota
      but he has nothing to threaten the aircraft carrier with, for this is a PLO plane.

      A depth charge dropped near the side of the ship pierces the bottom of the ship and breaks the ship in the floor. If the draft of the ship is 8 meters, then the water fountain (according to the law of "matching vessels") will be equal to 8 meters. Is an anti-ship torpedo worse than a conventional torpedo?
  22. +2
    29 October 2015 20: 27
    The Mongohtans are handsome, of course. But there were times when for two weeks circled over the Pindov’s pelvis, starting from Alaska and ending with the South China Sea. It is interesting how many aircraft remained in anti-submarine aviation after the reform of the stool and Co.
  23. +3
    29 October 2015 20: 32
    Under the USSR, there seemed to be a case when a TU-95 (I could be wrong) with photographic equipment made a "test landing approach" to an American aircraft carrier at the "requests" of American pilots ...

    I really don’t know what the crew of the ship then did with these comedians on interceptors ...
    1. -2
      29 October 2015 22: 45
      Based on this event, the ama filmed the comedy "Banzai!"
  24. -2
    29 October 2015 20: 34
    but soon there will probably be stools instead of bombs? Serdyukov
  25. -1
    29 October 2015 20: 45
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    US garbage carriers compared to THIS weapons:
    Former Minister of Defense of Russia Anatoly Serdyukov has been appointed industrial director for the aviation industry at Rostec State Corporation, RIA Novosti reports.


    Something in this life I do not understand ... request
  26. -3
    29 October 2015 20: 46
    Quote: BMP-2
    A date with the Tu-142 is truly an exciting event! It’s not for you to arrange fake fires on the deck - here fireworks could be truly bewitching!

    Or the fireworks for them can become photographic, and it’s still interesting how they let the anti-submarine plane get so close ???
  27. -1
    29 October 2015 21: 26
    The fact that he flew up to 1 miles means the aircraft carrier no longer exists. And there was already nobody to take off.
    1. +4
      29 October 2015 22: 23
      Quote: Franzum
      The fact that he flew up to 1 miles means the aircraft carrier no longer exists. And there was already nobody to take off.


      And if you come back to reality?
      The plane is alive, the aircraft carrier is alive.

      And if so, if - a low-speed huge anti-submarine defense aircraft, visible over a couple of hundred kilometers - would have a chance to break into the warrant?

      But both ours and adversary fly.
      And the video and photo examples are full.
      And the navy tales are full.
      As on Orions fired from slingshots.
      Slingshots are certainly a lie - but there is no smoke without fire.
      You can at least understand that the overflights were at such an altitude that it seemed potentially possible to reach out of the slingshot.

      No one knocks down and drowns.
      Remember this.
      Peaceful time.
      1. 0
        30 October 2015 11: 21
        Feels like the adversary helicopters hung 50-100m.
        And so, xs mzht and more, but quietly heard from the slingshots with nuts, they fired.

        Threat They fly, we fly - this is normal.
        Besides learning better on the enemy
  28. -2
    29 October 2015 21: 42
    fool If the stripes are so afraid of ours, then why are they climbing to our borders? Let stomp back to your continent! How are they going to fight being such terrible cowards? Or do they pretend to chickens laugh?
    1. +4
      29 October 2015 22: 14
      Quote: Steppe
      fool If the stripes are so afraid of ours, then why are they climbing to our borders? Let stomp back to your continent! How are they going to fight being such terrible cowards? Or do they pretend to chickens laugh?


      Are they scared?
      What do you think?
  29. 0
    29 October 2015 22: 34
    while the carcasses showed off in the morning rays and in every possible way distracted attention to themselves, cunning Chinese fastened magnetic mines to the keel of the aircraft carrier.
  30. -2
    29 October 2015 22: 37
    Exciting, them, damn it. As if the girl was seen after a sea voyage. Goodbye.
  31. -1
    29 October 2015 23: 09
    EW is certainly good and effective, but I would be less afraid of it at the place of the Americans, than Russian frostbitten pilots at the helm. I think the Americans know about the feat of Gastello, and they don’t forget about the Japs. Hence the panic on aircraft carriers, if the plane was clicked, the reflex to the Great Patriotic War. And I think this fool will sink quite quickly and effectively. laughing
  32. -1
    29 October 2015 23: 18
    there is nothing wrong with the flights of "some states" over the areas of the exercises


    I first read "there is nothing worse than the flights of aircraft of" some states "over the areas of the exercises" laughing
  33. -1
    30 October 2015 00: 43
    You can’t tease a Russian bear, it’s more expensive.
  34. -1
    30 October 2015 00: 44
    Our norms, the Americans, 1 nautical mile. Closer is not necessary.
  35. +8
    30 October 2015 01: 49
    Do you think with your head a little bit about what a TU-142 pair can do to an American aircraft carrier with an escort squadron? All that happened is normal combat work for us, what for the Americans. You don’t have to inflate an elephant from a fly, such interceptions happen several times a month - the military find out the reaction time, exposure parameters, types of interference, etc. Have you ever seen the TUSHA mark on the ICOS firing station? Believe me - to find and bring down this aircraft is an easy thing, it’s another matter that it has a different purpose and in a suicidal attack it never will. This is actually an anti-submarine aircraft. Yes, and there are other means to destroy the AUG.
  36. -2
    30 October 2015 03: 10
    In my humble opinion, the interception of the Aerospace Forces aircraft at a distance of about one NM indicates that they could be detected only visually within the line of sight. This again suggests that in wartime such a "timely detection" of aircraft of the TU 142 type will mean only one thing - the guaranteed destruction of the aircraft carrier and part of its escort group. And so yes, the Americans have nothing to worry about, no aircraft carrier, no problem.
    1. -2
      30 October 2015 04: 19
      Yes, the Russian tank is not so scary as its crew drunk in shit
  37. -2
    30 October 2015 03: 33
    In the Sea of ​​Japan, we are at home !!! and here. what does phasington do here ??? Clearly, it became scary, but you do not need to study near our coast.
  38. -4
    30 October 2015 04: 16
    Quote: viking1703
    http://coub.com/view/7d0wa

    Respect brother for vidyahu. And puck PT from the lads
  39. +5
    30 October 2015 04: 36
    Quote: Sergey Guryev
    In my humble opinion, the interception of the Aerospace Forces aircraft at a distance of about one NM indicates that they could be detected only visually within the line of sight. This again suggests that in wartime such a "timely detection" of aircraft of the TU 142 type will mean only one thing - the guaranteed destruction of the aircraft carrier and part of its escort group. And so yes, the Americans have nothing to worry about, no aircraft carrier, no problem.

    One mile was the point of maximum convergence of the aircraft and the ASG, the interception point, and even more so the detection was much further. Or did the Americans have to shoot down the plane to prevent it from approaching the aircraft carrier? You simply do not know the technology for detecting air targets by ships, and yet I repeat, TU-142 does not pose a direct threat to surface ships, this is an anti-submarine aircraft, its task is to detect and destroy enemy nuclear submarines in combat patrol sites. All that happened is the usual practice of the military, and nothing more.
    1. 0
      30 October 2015 06: 39
      Tu 142 in its parameters and body contours is similar to TU 95. You can see the difference only at a line of sight from a not very large distance. The speed of 142 at an altitude of 150 meters is of the order of 400 - 450 km / h, the range of visual detection from ship superstructures is about 20 000 m. We add the reaction time, take-off of interceptors, and approach and we get about 1-2 km. To the aircraft carrier. I dare to suggest that the TU 142 (95), if they were possible to detect radars, would have been detected much earlier and interceptors would have met them much further. I explain, think logically if you, as the commander of an aircraft carrier group, think that escorting enemy planes is closer than 2's. It's not worth it? I do not agree with you. During the launch of supersonic anti-ship missiles with the 95 command, from a distance of 5 - 10 km. and even more, air defense and missile defense missile defense systems simply do not have time to intercept them, there will not be enough reaction time. The only way is to keep your interceptors near the 95 TU, which will be able to destroy the Tu 95 almost instantly as soon as they open the bomb bay to launch anti-ship missiles. To ensure the safety of the AUG, aircraft like the 95 TU must be accompanied by their interceptors at a distance of at least 100 - 150 km from the AUG. As usual practice shows. Ask how far the interceptors escorted the 142 after they were discovered. The fact that in this case the AUG missed the TU 142, as it seems to me, is the result of testing electronic warfare equipment in a collision with a very probable enemy. Installing such electronic warfare equipment on the 95 TU, if previously debugged on the 142 TU, does not present technical problems.
      1. +2
        30 October 2015 08: 36
        Quote: Sergey Guryev
        Tu 142 in its parameters and body contours is similar to TU 95. You can see the difference only at a line of sight from a not very large distance. The speed of 142 at an altitude of 150 meters is of the order of 400 - 450 km / h, the range of visual detection from ship superstructures is about 20 000 m. We add the reaction time, take-off of interceptors, and approach and we get about 1-2 km. To the aircraft carrier. I dare to suggest that the TU 142 (95), if they were possible to detect radars, would have been detected much earlier and interceptors would have met them much further. I explain, think logically if you, as the commander of an aircraft carrier group, think that escorting enemy planes is closer than 2's. It's not worth it? I do not agree with you. During the launch of supersonic anti-ship missiles with the 95 command, from a distance of 5 - 10 km. and even more, air defense and missile defense missile defense systems simply do not have time to intercept them, there will not be enough reaction time. The only way is to keep your interceptors near the 95 TU, which will be able to destroy the Tu 95 almost instantly as soon as they open the bomb bay to launch anti-ship missiles. To ensure the safety of the AUG, aircraft like the 95 TU must be accompanied by their interceptors at a distance of at least 100 - 150 km from the AUG. As usual practice shows. Ask how far the interceptors escorted the 142 after they were discovered. The fact that in this case the AUG missed the TU 142, as it seems to me, is the result of testing electronic warfare equipment in a collision with a very probable enemy. Installing such electronic warfare equipment on the 95 TU, if previously debugged on the 142 TU, does not present technical problems.


        Why did you get that he missed?
        Just from the fact that he walked in 1 mile from the side?
        But don’t you admit that they raised their four of their planes in advance - and simply stupidly accompanied him as much time as they wanted - until the 142-th flew away ???
        the four precisely because they saw a couple of bombers in advance - and raised two fighters to the same target as it should be in the state.
        Ie everything was regular. We saw in advance, in advance, the state raised planes

        The inclusion of REP systems in peacetime is generally nonsense, and even at joint exercises like SyBriz, REP systems do not include.

        Enough to turn on Superman mode.
        There is a usual naval practice.

        And then your speculation looks exactly like that.
        Quote:
        "the Russian plane passed three to five nautical miles from the air group at an altitude of 610 meters
        Ivan Volfovich lives three to five miles from his wife Natalya Konstantinovna. Once, having jerked off in the evening at home, Ivan Volfovich told his work colleagues the next morning how he deftly slept with Natalia. "
      2. +1
        30 October 2015 12: 35
        Quote: Sergey Guryev
        Tu 142 in its parameters and body contours is similar to TU 95. You can see the difference only at a line of sight from a not very large distance. The speed of that 142 at an altitude of 150 meters is about 400 - 450 km / h, the range of visual detection from ship superstructures is about 20 m. We add the reaction time, take-off of interceptors, approach and get about 000-1 km. To the aircraft carrier. I dare to suggest that TU 2 (142), if they could detect radar, would have been detected much earlier and interceptors would have met them much further.

        In fact, a statement by the press service of the 7th Fleet of the Yankees explicitly stated that:
        Ronald Reagan monitored the Russian planes while communicating with South Korean and Japanese forces and launched its fighters well before the Russians made their closest approach.

        That is, the goals were pursued and the fighters raised well in advance. And that they allowed a rapprochement of up to 1 mile - so do not shoot down the Tu-142.
  40. 0
    30 October 2015 05: 33
    Quote: Bongo

    Impressive, and then what? These aircraft are not a real threat to the ACG. As part of the Pacific Fleet aviation, in flight, no more than 6 Tu-142 remained; they rarely fly into the air.


    Let 6 remain ... but they fly and fulfill their tasks. Personally, I am glad that they began to fly more often, it wasn’t for the pilot to sit at the airport ...
    1. +2
      30 October 2015 05: 43
      Quote: DAYMAN
      Let 6 remain ... but they fly and fulfill their tasks. Personally, I am glad that they began to fly more often, it wasn’t for the pilot to sit at the airport ...

      Unfortunately, their anti-submarine capabilities already correspond to modern realities. They rise into the air after the loss in the crash of one Tu-142 from the 568 separate combined air regiment of the Pacific Fleet (Mongohto Khabarovsk Territory, Kamenny Ruchey airfield) several times a month. Decide whether it is a lot or a little.
  41. -1
    30 October 2015 07: 01
    at such a distance, even a simple para-gas torpedo of WWII represents a mortal danger
  42. -2
    30 October 2015 08: 17
    Where we want to go, where we want to fly.
  43. -1
    30 October 2015 08: 33
    Well, for our own, this is also a kind of teaching))
  44. +3
    30 October 2015 08: 43
    the usual practice is to raise the interceptor on duty when approaching the ships of the fleet of "foreign strategists", the Americans did not feel any particular fear (they have real pros) so they flew, fly up and will fly up (like ours, however), in general, the warriors respect each other and all this hype for the population))))
  45. 0
    30 October 2015 08: 47
    No, well, our pilots are also interested in fulfilling the training for the real purpose, everything is more fun than entering a barrel floating in the sea smile
  46. -3
    30 October 2015 09: 33
    That's exactly what you need to do! Bravo, Russia !! Otherwise, these Americans will become completely insolent !!!
  47. +3
    30 October 2015 09: 36
    Quote: Sergey Guryev
    Tu 142 in its parameters and body contours is similar to TU 95. You can see the difference only at a line of sight from a not very large distance. The speed of 142 at an altitude of 150 meters is of the order of 400 - 450 km / h, the range of visual detection from ship superstructures is about 20 000 m. We add the reaction time, take-off of interceptors, and approach and we get about 1-2 km. To the aircraft carrier. I dare to suggest that the TU 142 (95), if they were possible to detect radars, would have been detected much earlier and interceptors would have met them much further. I explain, think logically if you, as the commander of an aircraft carrier group, think that escorting enemy planes is closer than 2's. It's not worth it? I do not agree with you. During the launch of supersonic anti-ship missiles with the 95 command, from a distance of 5 - 10 km. and even more, air defense and missile defense missile defense systems simply do not have time to intercept them, there will not be enough reaction time. The only way is to keep your interceptors near the 95 TU, which will be able to destroy the Tu 95 almost instantly as soon as they open the bomb bay to launch anti-ship missiles. To ensure the safety of the AUG, aircraft like the 95 TU must be accompanied by their interceptors at a distance of at least 100 - 150 km from the AUG. As usual practice shows. Ask how far the interceptors escorted the 142 after they were discovered. The fact that in this case the AUG missed the TU 142, as it seems to me, is the result of testing electronic warfare equipment in a collision with a very probable enemy. Installing such electronic warfare equipment on the 95 TU, if previously debugged on the 142 TU, does not present technical problems.

    Sorry, but you absolutely do not understand the topic you are trying to comment on, your calculations would partially be true that way 65-70 years ago. Well, about -5-10 km, this generally shows your complete incompetence.
  48. +1
    30 October 2015 12: 33
    Wah, wah, wah - what an "exciting" rapprochement! That there won't even be dismissal reports? Well, it's not even interesting.
  49. +1
    30 October 2015 14: 39
    I do not recommend approaching our aircraft closer than 1 nautical mile, the Americans. And the TU-95 (now modified) in NATO was "called a bear. And he, Mishka, does not like a leash, he will eat it! Hello! Minushers! Who wants a polemic on the aviation topic- welcome...
  50. -3
    30 October 2015 15: 44
    The Yankees can’t do without diapers ... the last time the destroyer Donald Cook crap one's pants, now the aircraft carrier got sick with a whole bear disease ... warriors ... it’s not defenseless Yugoslavia to bomb them.
  51. 0
    31 October 2015 06: 06
    And if two (no matter what) turned up on our “Presidential” board, what would be the reaction...
  52. 0
    31 October 2015 18: 26
    Quote: kirpich
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    US garbage carriers compared to THIS weapons:
    Former Minister of Defense of Russia Anatoly Serdyukov has been appointed industrial director for the aviation industry at Rostec State Corporation, RIA Novosti reports.


    Something in this life I do not understand ... request


    Actually, I was trying to convey the idea that HOW, FORMER DEFENSE MINISTER!!!??? STEALING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???? appointed industrial director of AVIATION!!! industry request
    At least downvote, BUT, EXPLAIN?????? belay request
  53. 0
    1 November 2015 11: 12
    Normal practice for flying in international waters. Let them enjoy it. This is not like the Su-24 was a parrot in the Black Sea.