DEPL "Rostov-on-Don" of the 636.3 project "Varshavyanka" interrupted the inter-naval transition for technical reasons

October 29 2015 51

The newest submarine B-237 "Rostov-on-Don" of the 636.3 "Varshavyanka" project was forced to interrupt the inter-fleet transfer from the Barents Sea to the Black Sea. Representatives of the manufacturer of the transition interruption associated with "some technical reasons." According to preliminary data, an abnormal situation with the power plant occurred on the boat, and the submarine had to be delivered to Kronstadt using a tugboat SB-406.

Photo blogger Ilya Kurganov:

It should be noted that on the submarines of the 636.3 project diesel generators are used, produced at OJSC Kolomensky Zavod.

The diesel-electric submarine B-237 Rostov-on-Don is the second submarine of this project built for the Black Sea fleet RF (the first - DEPL "Novorossiysk). It was officially commissioned on December 30, 2014. After the inter-naval transition, the submarine was to become a full-fledged element of the submarine fleet of the Russian Federation on the Black Sea. Now, specialists from the Kolomensky Zavod and the Admiralty Shipyards company, where the construction of a submarine for the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation was involved, are involved in identifying technical problems.

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Lord of the Sith

+16

29 October 2015 13: 01

It’s good that it’s not at depth and everyone is alive ...
1. Sasha 19871987
  
  -16
  
  29 October 2015 13: 03
  
  the raw submarine is still ... quite normal for new products, glitches ...
  1. Stirbjorn
    
    +23
    
    29 October 2015 13: 14
    
    Quote: sasha 19871987
    the raw submarine is still ... quite normal for new products, glitches ...
    Yes, hello, the project has long been worked out - why would it be raw ?!
    1. Sasha 19871987
      
      -8
      
      29 October 2015 13: 39
      
      Stirbjorn, and you are well
      The B-237 Rostov-on-Don diesel-electric submarine is the second submarine of this project built for the Russian Black Sea Fleet (the first is the Novorossiysk diesel-electric submarine). Officially launched December 30, 2014
      
      today is what number ??? she is not even a year old, wise guy !!! it is still being run in !!!
      1. Stirbjorn
        
        +6
        
        29 October 2015 14: 00
        
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        today is what number ??? she is not even a year old, wise guy !!! it is still being run in !!!
        The boat is serial. They run it in from the moment it is launched, before being put into operation. This is a warship in general, not a civilian vehicle
        
        The comment was deleted.
      2. roadsmell
        
        +8
        
        29 October 2015 14: 21
        
        The usual stuffing blogger (there are no fabs on him).
        The Ministry of Defense has already denied.
        
        But this blogger, where he points to a source in the Moscow Region, along with this source and to rhea: Source of the Moscow Region headquarters - at least the 2nd security clearance.
        
        And here there are such diframbs: which boat, what number, who is the captain, the route - and everything is in an open network ... At the blogger !!!!
        
        If stuffing - then spit and forget.
        
        If the real facts are in the sky, definitely.
      3. evge-malyshev
        
        0
        
        29 October 2015 15: 29
        
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        The B-237 Rostov-on-Don diesel-electric submarine is the second submarine of this project built for the Russian Black Sea Fleet (the first is the Novorossiysk diesel-electric submarine). Officially put into operation on December 30, 2014, today is what date ??? she is not even a year old, wise guy !!! it is still being run in !!!
        
        "to execute can not be pardoned." Compare: "Rostov-on-Don" was put into operation on December 30, 2014 "Novorossiysk". So who is not even a year old?
      4. evge-malyshev
        
        0
        
        29 October 2015 15: 29
        
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        The B-237 Rostov-on-Don diesel-electric submarine is the second submarine of this project built for the Russian Black Sea Fleet (the first is the Novorossiysk diesel-electric submarine). Officially put into operation on December 30, 2014, today is what date ??? she is not even a year old, wise guy !!! it is still being run in !!!
        
        "to execute can not be pardoned." Compare: "Rostov-on-Don" was put into operation on December 30, 2014 "Novorossiysk". So who is not even a year old?
  2. donavi49
    
    +6
    
    29 October 2015 13: 21
    
    The boat is not raw. It is being actively built, it is one of the best-selling diesel-electric submarines in the 21 century. 17 boats already in operation, 9 are being built or tested.
    
    Everything just breaks down, it's the same technique. Moreover, some critical nodes are imported in the domestic ones, and euro iron is put on the export ones.
    1. avt
      
      +4
      
      29 October 2015 14: 01
      
      Quote: donavi49
      Everything just breaks down, it's the same technique.
      
      This one broke down, "Novorossiysk" after the trip to Sevastopol was sent to the "paint" plant until April 2016 ...... As it does not inspire optimism, then especially since this project is really
      Quote: donavi49
      The boat is not raw. It is being actively built, it is one of the best-selling diesel-electric submarines in the 21 century.
  3. zennon
    
    +2
    
    29 October 2015 16: 07
    
    Quote: Sasha 19871987
    the raw submarine is still ... quite normal for new products, glitches ...
    
    And if you consider that the Navy knows nothing about this, then it’s quite good. What kind of “blöger” yapped.
  4. remy
    
    0
    
    29 October 2015 17: 18
    
    with DEPL all the way, just decided a little other missiles apparently load
    type 3M22 Zircon, so that mattresses are not particularly relaxed
  5. Bayonet
    
    +1
    
    29 October 2015 18: 05
    
    Quote: sasha 19871987
    failures are quite normal for new products ..
    
    I didn’t even get to the duty station if this is considered normal ...
    It’s unpleasant of course, I’m more than named after my city ...
2. Lt. Air Force stock
  
  +1
  
  29 October 2015 13: 10
  
  Quote: Sith Lord
  It’s good that it’s not at depth and everyone is alive ...
  
  The inter-naval transition of Novorossiysk took place in a surface position.
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3. Vladimirets
  
  +2
  
  29 October 2015 13: 23
  
  In Ukraine there will be a national holiday.
  1. aleks 62 next
    
    +4
    
    29 October 2015 13: 42
    
    .... In Ukraine there will be a national holiday ....
    
    .... Already coming !!!! ..... Special to them looked ....
4. Tor5
  
  +1
  
  29 October 2015 13: 44
  
  Hmm ... and the old woman is a bummer. The main thing is that the crew is intact.
  1. viktorrymar
    
    +4
    
    29 October 2015 14: 01
    
    The call of the Rostov-on-Don diesel-electric submarine (DEPL) to Kronstadt is planned. This was reported to Interfax by the press service and information department of the Ministry of Defense.
    
    "In accordance with the plan for the inter-fleet transition, the Rostov-on-Don diesel-electric submarine made a call to the Kronstadt naval base to replenish all types of reserves to the required standards before moving to the place of permanent deployment to the Black Sea Fleet," the military department said, adding, that the boat will make the transition in November 2015.
    
    Earlier blogger Ilya Kurganov referring to sources in the Navy, he said that the power plant broke down on board the boat, from October 16 to the Black Sea from the Northern Fleet (where it completed deep-sea trials). As a result, according to the source, the submarine was towed to Kronstadt on the night of October 29. On the morning of October 29, this information was confirmed to Interfax by a source in the shipbuilding industry.
    
    We believe bloggers and we don’t believe Russian defense mines,
    The Voennoye Obozreniye website posted information from a blogger who has "sources in the Navy"
    Ashamed comrades, ashamed !!! It looks like gloating !!!
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    2. jjj
      
      +6
      
      29 October 2015 15: 12
      
      Ilya Kurganov - naval officer of the Northern Fleet. Now, apparently, retired. I knew him a few years ago when he was a lieutenant commander. He is also a talented boat photographer. A lot of his pictures walk on the Internet. Moreover, he also shot at the Pacific Fleet. A feature of his work is not only beauty, but also pedantic authenticity. He is not a liberal. On naval issues, this is one of the competent authors and, of course, with friendly relations in the Navy
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6. Juborg
  
  +4
  
  29 October 2015 14: 40
  
  Stop discussing the fake speculation of the liberal press. The boat is all right. The escort tug turned out to be defective, the tug was then called to tow it to the port.
  1. Stirbjorn
    
    0
    
    29 October 2015 15: 28
    
    Quote: juborg
    Stop discussing the fake speculation of the liberal press. The boat is all right. The escort tug turned out to be defective, the tug was then called to tow it to the port.
    /Tow?! What is your source? And why the boat was not left in Baltiysk, it’s coming closer and there is a full-fledged base)))
    1. Juborg
      
      0
      
      29 October 2015 18: 58
      
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      Quote: juborg
      Stop discussing the fake speculation of the liberal press. The boat is all right. The escort tug turned out to be defective, the tug was then called to tow it to the port.
      /Tow?! What is your source? And why the boat was not left in Baltiysk, it’s coming closer and there is a full-fledged base)))
      
      This is the answer of the Ministry of Defense. http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12062146@egNews
      1. Stirbjorn
        
        0
        
        29 October 2015 20: 22
        
        Quote: juborg
        This is the answer of the Ministry of Defense. http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12062146@egNews
        
        About a broken tug there is nothing there
ImPerts

+6

29 October 2015 13: 01

Well, it began ...
Pah-pah-pah ...
Still, it's time to put effective managers on the counter.
1. Lt. Air Force stock
  
  +3
  
  29 October 2015 13: 19
  
  Quote: ImPerts
  Still, it's time to put effective managers on the counter.
  
  Just to start, look at how much Varshavyanka is being built; on the contrary, these effective managers need to be given Heroes of Labor. Sometimes 2 boats per year are launched into the water ...
  1. Lt. Air Force stock
    
    +1
    
    29 October 2015 13: 25
    
    + More orders for our Navy.
2. ziqzaq
  
  0
  
  29 October 2015 13: 33
  
  Quote: ImPerts
  Still, it's time to put effective managers on the counter.
  
  What is the counter? It’s time to plant them at stake, red mlyn faces ....
  Thank God there were no casualties ...
Abbra

+11

29 October 2015 13: 02

... The call of the Rostov-on-Don diesel-electric submarine (DEPL) to Kronstadt is planned. This was reported to Interfax by the press service and information department of the Ministry of Defense.

"In accordance with the plan for the inter-fleet transition, the Rostov-on-Don diesel-electric submarine made a call to the Kronstadt naval base to replenish all types of reserves to the required standards before moving to the place of permanent deployment to the Black Sea Fleet," the military department said, adding, that the boat will make the transition in November 2015 ...

Something like this ...
1. Stirbjorn
  
  +2
  
  29 October 2015 13: 16
  
  "Novorossiysk" a month earlier quite successfully completed the passage without calling in Kronstadt. This is a big hook, if you look at the map
2. KGB WATCH YOU
  
  +2
  
  29 October 2015 13: 32
  
  There is still such info:
  The navy did not ask shipbuilders to repair the diesel-electric submarine Rostov-on-Don, which reportedly returned to Kronstadt due to technical problems.
  
  "There have been no requests to provide specialists for repairs," the press service of the Admiralty Shipyards, where the submarine was built, told the Central Naval Portal.
3. avg
  
  +2
  
  29 October 2015 15: 33
  
  Quote: Abbra
  .. The call of the Rostov-on-Don diesel-electric submarine (DEPL) to Kronstadt is planned. This was reported to Interfax by the press service and information department of the Ministry of Defense.
  
  The answer is given in the article itself "... the submarine had to be delivered to Kronstadt with the help of the SB-406 tug."
  I think that you should not be compared to the Americans, who explained the stuck of their jeeps in the sand on the beach in Portugal, the intent of the exercises.
pts-m

+4

29 October 2015 13: 03

malfunctions do not appear in the one who does nothing.
1. Bayonet
  
  +2
  
  29 October 2015 18: 12
  
  Quote: PTS-m
  malfunctions do not appear in the one who does nothing.
  
  More often they appear in someone who does a bad job!
roskot

0

29 October 2015 13: 06

Anything can happen. It does not happen to someone who does nothing.
samoletil18

+1

29 October 2015 13: 07

And why is this so? A foreign car under warranty in a car dealership, no one under warranty, or what? And then a submarine!
1. kil 31
  
  0
  
  29 October 2015 13: 11
  
  Kolomentsy if my joy is OLD SHARP, something will break. I’ll come destroy the Kremlin, there’s nothing to be proud of.
  1. Mhpv
    
    +2
    
    29 October 2015 13: 24
    
    Quote: keel 31
    Kolomentsy if my joy is OLD SHARP, something will break. I’ll come destroy the Kremlin, there’s nothing to be proud of
    
    See dear, otherwise you will get to another Kremlin in Kolomna on Kolychev St. on 800 seats with towers around the perimeter.
    1. kil 31
      
      0
      
      29 October 2015 13: 50
      
      Quote: mhpv
      Quote: keel 31
      Kolomentsy if my joy is OLD SHARP, something will break. I’ll come destroy the Kremlin, there’s nothing to be proud of
      
      See dear, otherwise you will get to another Kremlin in Kolomna on Kolychev St. on 800 seats with towers around the perimeter.
      
      Thanks for the warning. I remember from school that they are proud of their ancient Kremlin. No one at school told me about this Kremlin.
2. Stirbjorn
  
  0
  
  29 October 2015 13: 18
  
  Quote: samoletil18
  Why is it so? A foreign car under warranty in a car dealership, no one under warranty, or what? And then a submarine!
  Well, you compared - a civilian car and a warship ... everything should be reliable here
dvg79

+1

29 October 2015 13: 12

And what did you want when enterprises are ruled by "effective managers." We have such an organization that finishes off, for example, to the fact that now winter and concrete work are fraught with quality, he answered "We poured in the west in winter and everything is fine", but we work in Transbaikalia So I'm not surprised when something breaks, but when everything works.
1. Lt. Air Force stock
  
  +1
  
  29 October 2015 13: 16
  
  Quote: dvg79
  What do you want when enterprises are ruled by "effective managers"
  
  For export, they are healthy, and no one complains about quality. Almost every year a Varshavyanka is launched into the water, all the factories of our military-industrial complex would have such effective managers.
egor1712

+1

29 October 2015 13: 20

that's okay. Even if there are problems there. New technology requires improvements.
Yarik

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29 October 2015 13: 22

Stirbjorn RU Today, 13: 16 ↑ New

"Novorossiysk" a month earlier quite successfully completed the passage without calling in Kronstadt. This is a big hook, if you look at the map

The wonders of logistics "to replenish all types of stocks to the required standards before moving to the place of permanent deployment" ... they brought it to Kronstadt by mistake
fregina1

0

29 October 2015 13: 25

The news went off ...... magazines ... around the machinations of world imperialism ..
Vlad5307

+1

29 October 2015 13: 35

Quote: donavi49
Everything just breaks down, it's the same technique. Moreover, some critical nodes are imported in the domestic ones, and euro iron is put on the export ones.

Possibly factory faults and personnel shortcomings in servicing the units are to blame!
ilya_oz

+1

29 October 2015 13: 39

I still did not understand whether it was a stuffing or not. Although taking into account the Kolomna remote control, everything can be.
Mama_Cholli

+1

29 October 2015 13: 47

Everything is generally clear, except for one thing - why are we minus the news?
Amurets

+2

29 October 2015 13: 52

Something is all muddy and incomprehensible. The Kolomna Plant DGU usually didn’t raise any complaints. I didn’t encounter ships, but on the railroad and on the power cars that 2-stroke, 4-stroke DGU worked reliably. There were complaints about 641 project diesel engines (The teeth of the timing gears broke and there were cracks in the hubs of the gears, so it was a technological marriage, not a structural one.) It’s difficult to guess here without knowing the reasons for what happened.
kartalovkolya

0

29 October 2015 14: 04

Anything can happen in the navy, the main thing is that the number of dives is equal to the number of ascents, and there are problems always and everywhere where equipment and people are! Or, dear ones, remind you of the years of the Second World War, when our submariners are not yet fully completed. “The pike gave the Fritzes a“ light ”! Everything is fine and the Kiev“ Banderlog ”has no reason to rejoice yet!
Engineer

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29 October 2015 14: 30

The press service of the Ministry of Defense said that the call was planned, no tugs were pulling it, and the boat "made a call to the Kronstadt naval base to replenish all types of reserves to the required standards before moving to the place of permanent deployment on the Black Sea Fleet".
chunga-changa

0

29 October 2015 16: 26

Unfortunately, the residents of Kolomna lose to foreigners in terms of reliability and quality.
1. Amurets
  
  +2
  
  29 October 2015 18: 09
  
  Where does this information come from? The Kolomna plant has supplied boat diesel engines since the 20s of the 20th century, and even earlier for surface ones. In fact, the Kolomna plant started producing Diesels before the Germans. The Germans still tried to make the engine work on dusty coal, and in Russia it immediately worked on kerosene, and then on crude oil. And on the railroad, the diesels of the Kolomensky Zavod proved themselves well already from the 30s of the last century on diesel locomotives of the El.Da series and carried it to the Great Patriotic War. If you say anything: 38В8,38К8,1Д. our fathers and grandfathers won a terrible war. And now about the unreliability of our Diesels: the price of NVD 500 thousand euros, the price of D-49 500 thousand rubles. 2% rollback at the rate where reliability will be higher? I took the prices conditionally to make it easier to calculate.
  1. chunga-changa
    
    0
    
    29 October 2015 19: 15
    
    Reread - "for reliability and quality". And here "from the 20s" and "grandfathers fought." Yes, Kolomentians make excellent and reliable diesel engines for the railway, they make UG for the fleet, take at least the same Savvy. Considering the reliability of a ship's engine as a recoil level and a relative price, this is generally beyond the bounds in my opinion. It's like if a wife walks half the size of her neighbor and eats sausages instead of cervelat, then she is, as it were, twice as reliable, and in some places it can be in all three.
Old26

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29 October 2015 18: 46

Quote: Stirbjorn
Yes, hello, the project has long been worked out - why would it be raw ?!

It is difficult to call the project "raw" if 16 boats have already been built for a foreign customer

Quote: sasha 19871987
today is what number ??? she is not even a year old, wise guy !!! it is still being run in !!!

Boat or series ??

Quote: remy
with DEPL all the way, just decided a little other missiles apparently load
type 3M22 Zircon, so that mattresses are not particularly relaxed

Yeah, we decided to download something that doesn't exist yet. Clever ... the Prophet ... But he did not ask himself whether the "Zircon" was adapted for shooting from a TA or not. Or the main thing is to "blurt out" ???
TsUS-Air Force

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29 October 2015 20: 37

everything new is the most substandard. I don’t understand why they are minus = Sasha 19871987 = it already smacks of fanaticism and blind self-confidence is a bad adviser
Old26

0

29 October 2015 23: 08

Quote: Stirbjorn
This is a big hook, if you look at the map

three thousand kilometers ...
skazochnik

0

30 October 2015 01: 35

I don’t know if it’s reliable or not, but I think that there is no smoke without fire, and if so, the damage most likely happened on the power plant. In general, in our country there is a problem with engine building, I mean diesel engines. Not that we we don’t do it or we don’t do it enough, but their quality and resource leaves much to be desired. This is especially true for ship diesels. For example, there are three diesel engine manufacturers in the world, next to which all the rest are lower class and the Russian one regrettable is a notch lower, and that's all three are located in the United States. These are such brands as: CATERPILLAR, CUMMINS, DETROIT DIESEL, they provide about 70% of the world's shipbuilding. We urgently need to invest in our engine building for military and civilian ships to achieve at least European or Japanese quality and diesel resource.
This is my opinion.