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The crew of the "Admiral Essen" began to implement the program of sea trials

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On Wednesday, the running tests of the Admiral Essen escort ship (project 11356), built at the Yantar Baltic Plant, began MIC With reference to the representative of the company Sergey Mikhailov.


Degaussing frigate

The frigate "Admiral Essen", which is located at the transfer base in the port of Baltiysk, today officially began a program of factory trials, as well as preparations for the first voyage at sea. The corresponding order was agreed with the customer’s representative, ”Mikhailov said.

“On board the frigate is a full-time crew of Black Sea sailors fleet, as well as the commissioning team and representatives of counterparty enterprises, ”he said.

According to the representative of the plant, “the first exit to the sea can take place in the coming days, preparation for it is going on actively”.

"Admiral Essen" (second in the series), was laid in 2011 g, launched in November - 2014. According to the plan, its transfer to the customer should take place before the end of the year. The ship is intended for the Black Sea Fleet. In total, the 6 frigates of this project will be built by the shipyard.

Help newspaper: “The ship is equipped with the Caliber-NK shipborne missile system, the Shtil-1 multichannel anti-aircraft missile system, the Palash anti-aircraft missile and artillery complex. The ship has a combat information and control system (CMS) "Requirement-M", which was developed and supplied by NPO Meridian, part of the concern "Morinformsystem-Agat". "
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  1. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 28 October 2015 18: 50
    +6
    Degaussing frigate
    Explain who is in the know - what kind of procedure?
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 28 October 2015 18: 56
      72
      In order to reduce the likelihood of detonation on mines with a magnetic or induction fuse, as well as to reduce the deviation of the magnetic compass, the ships are subjected to demagnetization. For the first time the term was used during the Second World War.

      Distinguish between winding and non-winding demagnetization of the ship. In the first case, several cable windings are stationary installed on the ship and create a magnetic field in them, compensating for the magnetic field of the ship. In the case of non-winding demagnetization, the ship is exposed to an external magnetic field at stationary or mobile demagnetization stations. Specialized demagnetization vessels are used as mobile stations.

      Something like this ...
      1. Cartman
        Cartman 28 October 2015 19: 39
        33 th
        Wikipedia taxis
    2. Starina_hank
      Starina_hank 28 October 2015 18: 57
      27
      Thick wires are wrapped around the hull and superstructure, they release current and remove the magnetization acquired during construction.
      1. science fiction writer
        science fiction writer 28 October 2015 20: 00
        12
        Thick wires are wrapped around the hull and superstructure, they release current and remove the magnetization acquired during construction.

        Not only after construction but also after certain periods of operation of the vessel, demagnetization is required.
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    3. Sharky
      Sharky 28 October 2015 19: 00
      22
      Since the ship is made of steel, and this is magnetic metal, the hull and the filling of the ship induce its own magnetic fields. The magnetic field of the ship reacts with the magnetic fuses of torpedoes, mines, bombs ... To reduce the magnetic field of the ship, they put it on demagnetization. They wrap them around with a wire (create a winding), and let currents flow through the winding, by this means the magnetic field of the ship is reduced. Still, it will not work to completely demagnetize the ship, therefore mine minesweepers (hull) are made mainly from composites (plastic).
    4. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 28 October 2015 19: 20
      24
      Quite simply, the ship's hull is magnetized during construction and acquires its own EM field. It has "direction" and "intensity". With the help of windings, for a short time they create a more "intense" field of reverse "directivity". The case receives induction magnetization with the opposite sign and equal value. As a result, the intrinsic and inductive magnetization mutually cancel each other out. The ship's magnetic field is greatly reduced, ideally close to zero.
      In detail, there are several ways, several types of coils, waves, phases, all that.
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 28 October 2015 22: 53
        +2
        But we still had minesweepers with wooden hulls in the "old days" (about 30 years ago), and now they are made of composites so that they would not be magnetic. But this is not for large ships. soldier
        1. Warhead-xnumx
          Warhead-xnumx 29 October 2015 05: 02
          +4
          Quote: marlin1203
          But we still had minesweepers with wooden hulls in the "old days" (30 years ago),

          They now have BT pr 1265
  2. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 28 October 2015 18: 50
    +8
    Black Sea Fleet can be congratulated on the soon replenishment. Caliber has already been advertised. Meet NATO and the Turks ...
    1. ty60
      ty60 28 October 2015 21: 18
      +3
      So now it’s not from the Caspian! Geyropa, ay!
  3. BULLIT
    BULLIT 28 October 2015 18: 51
    95 th
    Will we ever begin to build modern ships using stealth technology ?? These are all Soviet projects! Grandmas are again sawing !! negative
    1. Vladimyrych
      Vladimyrych 28 October 2015 18: 54
      19
      In vain you are so. Very good case.
      The modern TFR of the project 22350 has been raped since 2006 but it seems that this year it will be part of the Federation Council.
      But the construction of the horror as long. 4 years for 4000 tons is too much.
      1. Tor5
        Tor5 28 October 2015 19: 32
        +4
        Seven feet under the keel of sailors! And to us "for those at sea"!
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      3. gispanec
        gispanec 28 October 2015 20: 54
        +8
        Quote: Vladimir
        Modern TFR of the project 22350 has been raped since 2006

        you probably don’t know, but it’s not the building that is being raped, but the air defense systems of the polymer-redoubt, it can’t be brought to mind by the contractors ... they also tormented the artillery for a long time .... and the building was quickly built ... we can’t saturate for a long time
        1. severyanin
          severyanin 28 October 2015 21: 25
          -1
          Quote: gispanec
          you probably don’t know

          You probably also do not fully know, but there are still a lot of problems besides the air defense system! Some "magnificent" Kolomna diesel engines are worth something - the industry grabs its head, block heads are constantly flowing
          1. gispanec
            gispanec 29 October 2015 08: 34
            +1
            Quote: severyanin
            Some "magnificent" Kolomna diesel engines are worth something

            you don’t know ... Gorshkov with Ukrainian turbines and they came on time .... so the construction of the head one (and it’s about IT !!) because of the turbines didn’t drag out ... but the Kasatonov’s turbine ukrovskaya tortured ... because it burned down and she was reanimated ...
            1. severyanin
              severyanin 20 November 2015 12: 06
              0
              Did I even say a word about turbines? I KNOW that they work at Gorshkov without any comments! The question of the reliability of diesels was
    2. DenZ
      DenZ 28 October 2015 19: 01
      +8
      Are these Soviet projects? There, of course, the roots go to Soviet projects, but in essence, and most importantly, in armaments and electronic equipment this is no longer a Soviet project. Or do you want to see in our Navy something like Zumwalt, only then will you sleep peacefully?
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 28 October 2015 19: 38
        21 th
        Why not? Our Navy really needs similar, modern ships of the oceanic zone with the most powerful weapons. To our great regret, our defense industry before theirs "Zumwalta", as before "Shanghai cancer"! Regrettable ...
        1. Bronis
          Bronis 28 October 2015 21: 22
          10
          Quote: kepmor
          Why not? Our Navy really needs similar, modern ships of the oceanic zone with the most powerful weapons. To our great regret, our defense industry before theirs "Zumwalta", as before "Shanghai cancer"! Regrettable ...

          Large ships of the ocean zone ... only the same Americans are betting on the "old men" Arlie-Berkov ... and Zumwalt went into a small (by American standards) series. only 3 pieces ... and Berks will cook for another 10-15 years.
          As for our Navy, it needs to be restored "from below" from smaller to larger ships. That can be a few, albeit "super-duper" ships without security. The destroyer (cruiser) is a question of the 20s ... and not earlier ...
        2. chebman
          chebman 28 October 2015 22: 21
          +6
          Who would you like to design "modern ships with the most powerful weapons"? Ignorant who cannot write two lines without mistakes?
        3. NordUral
          NordUral 28 October 2015 23: 39
          +2
          Do you know the price of this Zumvolt? In the literal and figurative sense.
        4. Garris199
          Garris199 29 October 2015 03: 11
          +2
          And up to some kind of "zamvolta"? This is still a prototype, with unconfirmed performance characteristics. The design is good, but our 20386 looks no worse.
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    3. GRAY
      GRAY 28 October 2015 19: 03
      +7
      Quote: BULLIT
      Will we ever begin to build modern ships using stealth technology? Grandmas are again sawing !!

      His visibility is reduced due to the composite superstructure.
      PS
      Ovalobot flew or what?
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 28 October 2015 19: 12
        +8
        Quote: GRAY
        Ovalobot flew or what?

        One hundred pounds, look at his comments. laughing
    4. Dart2027
      Dart2027 28 October 2015 19: 10
      15
      Quote: BULLIT
      modern stealth technology ships

      Aircraft made by the stealth technology are shot down by discontinued missiles.
    5. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 28 October 2015 19: 14
      18
      Quote: BULLIT
      Will we ever begin to build modern ships using stealth technology ??

      With stealth radar, stealth radios and stealth helicopters? laughing

      A stealth ship is like a black-drawn ninja who sneaks on a moonless night and ... flutters on his cell phone and highlights the path of a cloud of flashlights. (with)
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 28 October 2015 19: 18
        +6
        Quote: Alexey RA
        With stealth radar, stealth radios and stealth helicopters?

        The most secret MO development - stealth construction battalion! Invisible fighters of the invisible front! wassat
    6. Homo
      Homo 28 October 2015 19: 17
      12
      Quote: BULLIT
      Will we ever begin to build modern ships using stealth technology ?? These are all Soviet projects! Grandmas are again sawing !!

      Boy, stealth technology is not a panacea! You can not hide at the same time from radars, thermal scanners, cameras, satellites, and even more so from acoustic scanners. Someone may see or hear.
    7. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 28 October 2015 19: 58
      +2
      Comrade bullit, go visit a labeled in Germany, ask this question, you can spit on it along the way ...
      Quote: BULLIT
      Will we ever begin to build modern ships using stealth technology ?? These are all Soviet projects! Grandmas are again sawing !! negative
    8. Wiruz
      Wiruz 28 October 2015 20: 15
      16
      Will we ever begin to build modern ships using stealth technology ?? These are all Soviet projects! Grandmas are again sawing !!

      Turn off the computer and go to the shipyard. How to build something - let me know hi
    9. Abbra
      Abbra 28 October 2015 21: 22
      +3
      BULLIT, where are you from? Do you dream at night of invisible ships with an invisible captain that invisibly approach a visible enemy? And the word "Soviet" in the negative, pzhalasta, do not touch. You, as I guess, were born thanks to the genius of Soviet engineering, which created THAT that arrived in Berlin in 1945. Moreover, the whole world SEEN all this.
    10. ilya_oz
      ilya_oz 28 October 2015 22: 40
      +1
      The body has been changed from the original design to reduce visibility.
    11. alexander 2
      alexander 2 28 October 2015 23: 00
      +3
      Stealth technology is precisely the sawing of attendants, which was successfully proved by anti-aircraft gunners in Yugoslavia by shooting down a stealth aircraft with an outdated system released before any stealth technologies. And "hide" the ship is even more difficult.
    12. NordUral
      NordUral 28 October 2015 23: 38
      0
      Where are you, my friend, so caring about the invisible fleet?
  4. Rokossovsky
    Rokossovsky 28 October 2015 18: 55
    +7
    We will someday begin to build modern ships using stealth technology

    What do not like? Which ships, in your opinion, need to be built?
    PSKaptsov? Is that you chtol? lol
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 28 October 2015 19: 21
      13
      Quote: Rokossovsky
      PSKaptsov? Is that you chtol?

      Not him. Oleg does not deal with such shit, but tries to substantiate his views (sometimes incorrect) logically. For which he and respect. hi
      1. Rokossovsky
        Rokossovsky 28 October 2015 19: 27
        +4
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: Rokossovsky
        PSKaptsov? Is that you chtol?

        Not him. Oleg does not deal with such shit, but tries to substantiate his views (sometimes incorrect) logically. For which he and respect. hi

        Of course! I always read his publications with pleasure, although I cannot agree on some points.
        My previous comment was with a considerable share of irony. wink
  5. GOgaRu
    GOgaRu 28 October 2015 19: 07
    +2
    Such frigates, as I understand it, used to be called TFR. How many SKRs were there in the USSR?
    1. Rokossovsky
      Rokossovsky 28 October 2015 19: 12
      +1
      How many SKRs were there in the USSR?

      1135's built 59 units. In the ranks of 12, if Vicki is not lying. hi
      1. Warhead-xnumx
        Warhead-xnumx 29 October 2015 05: 07
        +2
        Quote: Rokossovsky
        In formation 12, if Vicki is not lying.

        Lies, most likely their pair of pieces remained.
      2. GOgaRu
        GOgaRu 29 October 2015 09: 50
        0
        I wanted to make a comparison: CCCR (went at the same time) -Russia (current state).
    2. ilya_oz
      ilya_oz 28 October 2015 20: 03
      +2
      The Soviet TFR cannot be compared with the new frigates, since their strike capabilities were, to put it mildly, unsatisfactory in terms of size.
      1. Rokossovsky
        Rokossovsky 28 October 2015 20: 45
        0
        Soviet TFR cannot be compared with new frigates

        I do not compare! The 1135 project was the basic one for modern gatekeepers, that's why I brought the number of all ships built within the framework of this concept for all the time.
  6. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 28 October 2015 19: 27
    +1
    Great news. "Amber" well done.
    1. arane
      arane 28 October 2015 19: 44
      +8
      And the name is good! In the Russo-Japanese Captain 2nd Rank Essen was the commander of the battleship Sevastopol! During the battle in the yellow sea, he tried to ram the Japanese flagship "Asama", but the rudders jammed and did not hit. Subsequently, Rear Admiral Essen became the commander of the Baltic Fleet
  7. ilya_oz
    ilya_oz 28 October 2015 20: 04
    +1
    Did you put the broadsword? It seems that I saw the AK-630 on the first case.
  8. okroshka79
    okroshka79 28 October 2015 20: 12
    +4
    A total of 32 units of projects 1135 and 1135M were built at three shipyards: Kaliningrad Yantar - 19 units, Kerch Zaliv - 7 units and Leningrad Shipyard named after AA Zhdanova (now "Severnaya Verf") - 6 units. Back in Kerch, 7 units were built according to a special project for the naval units of the border troops. Since the beginning of construction, according to the Soviet classification, they were called BODs, however, according to the classification that appeared in 1978, these ships were renamed SKR. The ship turned out to be very successful in terms of seaworthiness, hull strength, habitability, and the main power plant. Yes, and armed per unit of displacement, this ship was very, very decent. The main drawback is the absence (with the exception of borderline) helicopters. As of October 29.10.2015, 1135, two ships remained in the Navy, both are in the Black Sea Fleet and both are taking part in the Syrian events. These are SKR "Pytlivy" pr. 1135M and "SKR" Ladny "pr. XNUMX.
    1. ilya_oz
      ilya_oz 28 October 2015 22: 39
      -2
      4 PU Rocket - a powerful weapon? Clear. How could you not bother to put in mosquitoes on ships with a displacement of several thousand tons, like on an MRC?
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 30 October 2015 19: 31
        0
        Quote: ilya_oz
        4 PU Rocket - a powerful weapon? Clear. How could you not bother to put in mosquitoes on ships with a displacement of several thousand tons, like on an MRC?

        What "mosquito"? 1135 were built starting in 1968. The anti-ship missile "mosquito" was put into service in 1984.

        By the way, on the larger "shepherd" in order to put on the "Mosquito", it was necessary to throw out the "bells". Do you propose to make a BOD without anti-submarine missiles, but with anti-ship missiles? smile

        Displacement 1135 - less than 3000 tons. And they pushed into it, anti-aircraft missile systems, SAM, 2 AU 76-100 mm and 2 ASG (including towed).
  9. TSOOBER
    TSOOBER 28 October 2015 20: 15
    13
    KALININGRAD, October 27. / Corr. TASS /. The frigate "Admiral Grigorovich", built in Kaliningrad for the Russian Black Sea Fleet, has successfully carried out artillery and anti-submarine firing in the Baltic Sea as part of the state tests program. This was announced on October 27 to TASS by the representative of the Baltic Fleet (BF) Vladimir Matveev. Http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2381792
  10. Wiruz
    Wiruz 28 October 2015 20: 21
    0
    Somehow there was infa, supposedly instead of 36 cells of Calm-1 there are only 24. Nobody knows what this is connected with?
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 28 October 2015 20: 37
      0
      Quote: Wiruz
      Once there was infa, they say there are only 36 cells instead of 1 Calm-24 cells. Nobody knows what this is connected with.

      Perhaps it was considered that for a patrol ship it would be too bold.
  11. Frigate
    Frigate 28 October 2015 20: 28
    -7
    And the hull of the ship is decorated with vertical stripes, if I put it right. Is it for visual inconspicuousness on the water or what role does it play?
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 28 October 2015 20: 59
      -2
      Take off your epaulets, don't disgrace yourself
      1. Frigate
        Frigate 28 October 2015 21: 03
        +4
        Quote: Wiruz
        Take off your epaulets, don't disgrace yourself

        I did not catch them. And I don’t really worry about them. You worry about your epaulettes.
        I'm just curious, I asked. And if you can’t answer, why are you shaking the air?
    2. Frigate
      Frigate 28 October 2015 21: 00
      +2
      And explain, not by cons, but by the words of the brain is not enough?
      1. severyanin
        severyanin 28 October 2015 21: 32
        +5
        Quote: Frigate
        And to explain, not with minuses, but with words of brains is not enough

        Yes, for God's sake, just answer too - before you write such nonsense, you don't have enough brains to read the first comments after the article, everything is "chewed" in detail for people like you
        1. Frigate
          Frigate 28 October 2015 22: 28
          +5
          Quote: severyanin

          Yes, for God's sake, just answer too - before you write such nonsense, you don't have enough brains to read the first comments after the article, everything is "chewed" in detail for people like you

          I read the first komenty, but did not compare this with the photo. Visually accepted for painting. Thanks a lot severyanin, come on. repeat
      2. sisa29
        sisa29 28 October 2015 22: 50
        +7
        He’s new, they didn’t have time to tape this adhesive tape
        1. Frigate
          Frigate 28 October 2015 22: 52
          +3
          Quote: sisa29
          He’s new, they didn’t have time to tape this adhesive tape


          laughing
  12. cniza
    cniza 28 October 2015 20: 32
    +3
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Black Sea Fleet can be congratulated on the soon replenishment. Caliber has already been advertised. Meet NATO and the Turks ...


    And greet all our "friends", we are ready for a warm welcome.
  13. bochman
    bochman 28 October 2015 21: 28
    10 th
    http://topwar.ru/user/TSOOBER/
    The photo is unsuccessful. It looks like a river monitor. We did a project for the Indians, and nowhere to do it — we’ll arm the BSF!
    1. severyanin
      severyanin 29 October 2015 01: 03
      +3
      Quote: bochman
      The photo is unsuccessful. It looks like a river monitor. We did a project for the Indians, and nowhere to do it — we’ll arm the BSF!

      Yes, in general, on the drum in the photo and how it looks (although it looks IMHO not bad) - the main thing is that the 11356 is created on the basis of the most massive and successful SKR of the Soviet fleet, has excellent body contours, a successful and well-proven M7K gas turbine power plant, which means walking will be long and, I hope, trouble-free with proper operation! hi
  14. cahekmosa
    cahekmosa 28 October 2015 22: 01
    +2
    Quote: bochman
    http://topwar.ru/user/TSOOBER/
    The photo is unsuccessful. It looks like a river monitor. We did a project for the Indians, and nowhere to do it — we’ll arm the BSF!

    let's write the Su-30SM in the trash too, it was also created for the Indians (for themselves they could not, there was no money)
  15. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 28 October 2015 22: 02
    0
    The frigate looks pretty good and is armed well ... The entire Geyropa will be under control
  16. Member
    Member 28 October 2015 22: 05
    +2
    The long-awaited replenishment. Will they hand over by the new year?
  17. vfck
    vfck 28 October 2015 22: 13
    +2
    “The ship is equipped with the Caliber-NK shipborne missile system, the Shtil-1 multichannel anti-aircraft missile system, the Palash anti-aircraft missile and artillery complex. The ship has a combat information and control system (CMS) "Requirement-M", which was developed and supplied by NPO Meridian, part of the concern "Morinformsystem-Agat". "
    and now from the Black Sea window you can see the European garbage :)))
  18. Zomanus
    Zomanus 28 October 2015 23: 32
    +2
    Oh, when will such handsome men come to us at the Pacific Fleet?
    It’s clear that the greatest threat now is south and west,
    But I want that we would have something to flaunt.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 29 October 2015 07: 24
      0
      I hope in the Pacific Fleet these will not be. You would need 22350 / 22350M pieces of 6-8 to replace the destroyers and BOD.
  19. excomandante
    excomandante 28 October 2015 23: 55
    0
    Something, looking at the photo, the old film "The Secret Experiment" came to mind))).
  20. exalex2
    exalex2 29 October 2015 03: 31
    0
    Counteract, Enough, there are options .. Long-necked ,,
  21. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 29 October 2015 06: 12
    +2
    Hmm ... there is no replacement for the MP-600 (Frigate) campaign in the fleet, but the station is outdated.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 29 October 2015 07: 21
      0
      Why is it outdated? The last frigate "sees" at 300 km, and it is in export performance! As for the replacement, well, there is Furca's diminishing hopes. Personally, I do not think that a less farsighted radar was installed on Gorshkov than on Grigorovich
      1. Dimon19661
        Dimon19661 29 October 2015 07: 55
        +1
        The frigate and at 500 can see the element base is obsolete, the phased array in this design, huge power consumption, huge 50 to 400 Hz converters. The station itself, its architecture, all this remained at the level of 60-70 years. I myself was an industry and was engaged in Frigates for years 12. In the late 80s, it was still somehow impressive, but when I got acquainted with the elemental base of capitalists in the early 90s, there was even some shock.
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  22. tlauicol
    tlauicol 29 October 2015 07: 30
    +1
    Something about diesel-electric submarines "Rostov" are silent, do not want to spoil the mood?
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 29 October 2015 08: 14
      0
      What happened to her? Enlighten
      1. tlauicol
        tlauicol 29 October 2015 08: 46
        +1
        Yesterday brought in tow to Kronstadt. I didn’t get to the Mediterranean. Maybe they’ll pull Peter, I don’t know request but she didn’t appear at the World Cup. Accident probably
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 29 October 2015 08: 54
          0
          Can the source be? Where does this information come from?
          1. TSOOBER
            TSOOBER 29 October 2015 10: 12
            +1
            As it became known from representatives of the Navy, the large submarine B-237 Rostov-on-Don of Project 636.3 under the command of Captain 2nd Rank Andrei Adamsky completed combat training and successfully completed deep-sea diving and missile firing at the Northern Fleet training grounds, October 16, 2015 year began a planned transition to a permanent base in Novorossiysk, but literally a few days later she was forced to call a rescue tugboat and with her help she went to the emergency repair site by specialists of the manufacturer of Admiralteysky Verfi OJSC. Early in the morning of October 29, 2015, the submarine moored in the Merchant Harbor of the city of Kronstadt. Arrival at the Black Sea Fleet was planned in the first ten days of December, but in connection with the accident ES, the timing of the transition will depend on the success of troubleshooting. The causes and circumstances of the accident have not yet been officially reported.

            The lead submarine of the B-261 Novorossiysk project, having completed the inter-naval transition on September 21, 2015, arrived at a permanent base in Novorossiysk, passing 6500 nautical miles from the Barents Sea to the Black Sea. The large submarine B-237 Rostov-on-Don is the second hull in the series. On April 17, 2015, a submarine from the Kronstadt Merchant Harbor sailed to the Northern Fleet, and on May 22, 2015 arrived in the Catherine Harbor of the city of Polyarny.
            http://ruspodplav.livejournal.com/13238.html
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  23. a-cola
    a-cola 29 October 2015 10: 55
    0
    I have never seen what demagnetization looks like. At first I thought it was a new camouflage!) But what? Visually destroys the form very effectively)))
  24. Old warrior
    Old warrior 30 October 2015 16: 09
    0
    Seven feet under the keel.
  25. smart ass
    smart ass 30 October 2015 20: 00
    0
    I also thought that it was necessary to build huge warships until I saw that they had heaped up 4 missile boats of the Caspian flotilla)))) in caliber
  26. okroshka79
    okroshka79 30 October 2015 20: 34
    +1
    Dear Alexey RA. Please do not call the ship that went like that, to which you, in all likelihood, have nothing to do. Indeed, Admiral Andrei Trofimovich Chabanenko did not deserve this. Indeed, instead of the Rastrub-B missile launcher, the Moskit anti-ship missile system was installed on the Admiral Chabanenko BPK, but this did not make the ship less anti-submarine. it was equipped with an RPK-6M Vodopad-NK anti-submarine missile system.
  27. Val_y
    Val_y 30 October 2015 21: 44
    0
    Quote: kepmor
    , our defense industry to theirs "Zumvalta"

    You probably also don't know that Zumvolt out of 30 was reduced to 7, then to 3, and now McCain requires a third cut, it is supposedly expensive and has not been brought to mind, as by the way and Avik Fort is also 3 years old how to hand over to the fleet they should have but ... they cannot hand over to the fleet, due to the fact that the catapult was not brought, control, by the way, like the f-2 and f-22, too. So that... hi And another volley of cruise missiles from the TFRs, just the brilliance ... soldier good