Varvara Karaulova continued to maintain contact with the ISIL recruiter

I found my sequel story Varvara Karaulova (MSU students), who were intercepted in Turkey on the way to the ISIL militants. Recall that a Moscow student, who always differed, so to speak, with exemplary behavior, after meeting with a terrorist recruiter through social networks, decided to go to Syria, leaving home and studying at a prestigious university. The coordinated actions of the Russian and Turkish law enforcement officers, as well as the timely decision-making by Karaulova’s father, allowed her to be detained in Turkey.

After the arrest of the students, the lawyers stated that Varvara had an “immature psyche” that “succumbed to influence” ... But the main thing, according to the lawyers and relatives, is that Barbara, of course, will break all ties with the militants. However, as it now turns out, the ties were not torn, and Karaulova continued to maintain contact with a person whom she considered to be a lover, and who had recruited her to move to ISIL terrorists in Syria.

As a result, the Investigation Committee of the Russian Federation still opened a criminal case against a student of the Faculty of Philosophy of Moscow State University. This is reported "Vesti".

The security services searched the apartment of Karaulova, checked her contacts, finding a lot of evidence proving a continuing relationship with a recruiter of the terrorist organization ISIL banned in Russia.

Comments

[maxim1987]

yes, let him go with ... ka! Well, the girl wants to ride a "helicopter"

[Sasha 19871987]

oh fool naive ... there is war and their heads cut off, not the best place for romance ... or does she want to be a slave to the stinky bearded scumbag ???

[Corsair0304]

That is the sadness that after the "helicopter" and other delights, this idiot can return to Russia with a martyr's belt. So on figs on figs - lawyers on the side and in sunny Magadan. Let him work for the rest of his life. Another example is oversight.

[ava09]

You underestimate the IG, there is enough garbage for terrorist attacks. Such, with knowledge of languages ​​and skills of propaganda, they use for their intended purpose and the money paid is not bad, compared to cannon fodder.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: ava09

You underestimate the IG, there is enough garbage for terrorist attacks. Such, with knowledge of languages ​​and skills of propaganda, they use for their intended purpose and the money paid is not bad, compared to cannon fodder.

Such educated and with knowledge of languages ​​in ISIS, half of the Baath party, and such "fools", you are right, are to use there for their intended purpose, like PPZh (whores), or suicide bombers, she is exactly what it is - "cannon fodder ", more precisely, at first just" meat ", and then already" cannon ", especially of Slavic appearance, cute, with knowledge of languages ​​(Russian, mostly), Muscovite with a residence permit, in short - an ideal, for" revenge on the unfaithful "for actions VKS RF. IMHO. Sincerely.

[SPACE59]

You have a mother, grandmother was? Do you give your daughter, who can be or will be, exclusively to the cleaners? Supreme being, damn it!

[Tatyana]

Quote from text.

Karaulova continued to maintain contacts with a man whom she considers beloved, and who recruited her to move to ISIS terrorists in Syria.

"The" fool "either to the camps for hard work, to curse her" beloved ", or, as about Stalin, simply to shoot.
No sentiment - wartime.

[SPACE59]

Quote: Tatiana

"Fool" either to the camps for hard work, to curse her "beloved", or, as about Stalin, - just shoot.
No sentiment - wartime.

Wow, what a bloodthirsty Tatyana, the directly newly appeared Rosalia Zemlyachka, to the camps, to shoot, wartime. A woman should be kinder.

More than half of the commentators seemed to come from the censor, rushed to come up with scary punishments for Karaulova. Comrades, one must be more restrained. The case was opened, there will be a court and now he will decide what to do.

My opinion, the girl needs to be isolated, for a year or two, this is the best way out of the situation for her. At home, she could not recover ((

[Varyag_1973]

Quote: KOSMOS59

My opinion, the girl needs to be isolated, for a year or two, this is the best way out of the situation for her. At home, she could not recover ((

Well, yes, and in two years, this "cured" will enter the building of some railway station (like Volgograd) and hello to someone's relatives! Do you want that?! Terrorism must be burned out with a hot iron! You now regretted this sheep, and you did not regret the children or relatives of those whom it can send to the next world ?!

[Valentine]

Do you want to make her a "prisoner of conscience" like Nadezhda Savchenko? Well, well ... Then move it
right in PACE, or for the position of the Pope, then they may not be imprisoned.

[Tatyana]

SPACE59

Wow, what a bloodthirsty Tatyana ... to the camps, to shoot, wartime. A woman should be kinder.

A woman must be with her people! Your "kindness" is equal to infantility.

More than half of the commentators ... rushed to invent scary punishment for Karaulova. Comrades, one must be more restrained. The case was opened, there will be a court and now he will decide what to do.
My opinion, the girl needs to be isolated, for a year or two,

Yeah! Karaulova will be released in a year or two - and will be used by the amers against the Russian Federation, like Tolokolnikov! And this is not the worst option.
You better compare Karaulova with Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya - both 19 years old!
We are talking about treason! Moreover, the “girl” Karaulova was already given a chance to change her mind! I did not change my mind - that's it! Must get the punishment in full!
If she’s not doing well with her psyche, then, as Novodvorskaya, in a madhouse for treatment of years at 20, she will not “recover” yet!

[navigator]

"A woman should be with her people! Your" kindness "is equal to infantilism."


I wanted blood, lady? Don’t be hysterical, for all the people you don’t have to decide.


"Must get punished in full!
If she's not all right with the psycho, then, like Novodvorskaya in a madhouse for treatment for 20 years - until she "recovers"! "


Judging by what was written, you would also want to check.

[navigator]

I suggest Tatyana, who in all her posts calls for killing, to entrust this. What do you think, minusers, will reach the fellow countrywoman Roza?

[Tatyana]

I suggest Tatyana, which in all its posts calls for killing, and charge it. What do you think, minusers, will reach the compatriots Rose?

Dear navigator (1)!
Do not foolishly and do not hang in vain on people! You don’t have to lie about Tatyana.
I looked at all your comments. You must be studying at the seminary. The Russian Orthodox Church does not disgrace its liberal aggressive Orthodox radicalism and its very deformed religious compromise with other radical movements in religion!
Do not you like Stalin, with whom the Great Patriotic War won? Unfortunately, I can’t help you with anything!
Under your personal guidance, we Russians no patriotic war they certainly wouldn’t win!

[navigator]

Quote: Tatiana

Dear navigator (1)! Do not foolishly and do not hang in vain on people! You don’t have to lie about Tatyana. I looked at all your comments. You must be studying at the seminary. The Russian Orthodox Church does not disgrace its liberal aggressive Orthodox radicalism and its very deformed religious compromise with other radical movements in religion! Do you not like Stalin, with whom the Great Patriotic War won? Unfortunately, I can’t help you with anything! Under your personal guidance, we Russians would not have won any Russian war!

What kind of people, I wrote only about you, you like to hide behind the people. I do not study at the seminary and, especially, I am not foolish. Could I go to nickname, avatar, go to sea. Contradict yourself, not liberal and not aggressive, in unlike you, just. At least I don’t call for killing, and this is not your first time doing it. And you read my comments poorly, especially about Joseph Vissarionovich or lying. In all posts I fought with those who defamed him, the words I didn’t say anything bad about him. But you don’t need to help me with your regret, you need to regret it and help.

[Tatyana]

Dear navigator (1)!
Of course, I did not read all your 687 comments, but only read the last ones. According to them, your psychological portrait was made by me.

navigator (1) I wrote only about you, you like people to hide behind.

I do not hide behind the people, I live with the people of his fate by fate! I don’t know what, with whom and how you live. But you have something wrong in your head, apparently from a frequent distance from your homeland.
And let's no longer, as they say, litter the "air" with your "thoughtlessness" and our squabble! Read the opinions of members of the forum, they write politically and socially correctly, and you will see how far you are from the people!
Good luck to you!

[navigator]

Quote: Tatiana

I do not hide behind the people, I live with the people by their fate! And what, with whom and how you live, I do not know. But you have something amiss in your head, apparently, from the frequent distance from the Motherland. And let's no longer, as they say, litter the "air" with your "thoughtlessness" and our squabble! Read the opinions of members of the forum, they write politically and socially correctly, and you will see how far you are from the people!

Instead of insults about the state of your head, think with your "thoughtlessness." Wild calls with numerous exclamation marks, slogans on behalf of the people. From what people? 10 minusers who also do not mind killing. How do you know, often I am far from my homeland or not often . Too many conjectures and labels. I am also part of the people and live with the people, only I do not call on to kill anyone and I do not advise you.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: navigator

I propose to Tatyana, who in all her posts calls for killing, this is to be entrusted.

Murder is not a good thing, but as soon as someone is forced to do it, it is clearly not women who should do it. By the way, Alexandra Ivanova (formerly V. Karaulova), went to Syria not to break oases in the desert. So why don't you give some kind and constructive advice to Kira Karaulova, the mother of the "foal" Varvara-Alexandra, who (Kira) in her interview near the court, after filing a complaint, bluntly stated that she and her daughter made the decision to change their name together and she helped her daughter get new documents. Some will say: "- so what, they hounded the poor thing, so I changed my name." Only here is one snag - she changed not only her usual passport, but also with the assistance of her mother, received a foreign one. I don't know if she managed to get a visa, but this is a profitable business. As you can see, the mother directly contributes to the intentions of her child, this means that it would not hurt to ask the parents, to the fullest extent of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. IMHO. Sincerely.

[navigator]

Quote: fyvaprold

Murder is not a good thing, but as soon as someone is forced to do it, it is clearly not women who should do it. By the way, Alexandra Ivanova (formerly V. Karaulova), went to Syria not to break oases in the desert. So why don't you give some kind and constructive advice to Kira Karaulova, the mother of the "foal" Varvara-Alexandra, who (Kira) in her interview near the court, after filing a complaint, bluntly stated that she and her daughter made the decision to change their name together and she helped her daughter get new documents. Some will say: "- so what, they hounded the poor thing, so I changed my name." Only here is one snag - she changed not only her usual passport, but also with the assistance of her mother, received a foreign one. I don't know if she managed to get a visa, but this is a profitable business. As you can see, the mother directly contributes to the intentions of her child, this means that it would not hurt to ask the parents, to the fullest extent of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. IMHO. Sincerely.

I agree with you in everything, unlike Tatyana. As for the advice of her parents, what kind constructive advice can be given in this case? Do not do this anymore and take a pie from the shelf? Everything is clear. From the aspen, oranges will not be born. And ask it is necessary both from her and her relatives, who have grown this, in all severity of the Criminal Code, and not to wet it, as some here call. With respect.

[Tatyana]

fyvaprold (3)

As you can see, mother directly contributes to the intentions of her child, this is to the fact that it would not hurt to ask parents, in all severity of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.

Dear Fyvaprold (3)!
Previously, there was information that Varvara in her decision to go to the IG didn’t tell anyone at home. Maybe Barbara’s mother helped her daughter get a foreign passport, not knowing which country her adult daughter was planning to leave for. Then the mother can, from maternal feelings, simply take the daughter’s guilt upon herself. This happens.
I assure you of the FSB of the Russian Federation in all of this objectively understand! They will take security measures to prevent this from happening with other Russian girls.
But this

Quote: navigator
I propose to Tatyana, who, in ALL OF her fasts, urges to kill, and to entrust this.

on the part of navigator (1), a slander against me and defiantly incorrect sentence. For some reason, he, as a believer, selectively observes Christian commandments. And that too is not good. Let him bring at least one more of my posts as an example in support of his words, in which I urge supposedly to CONSTANTly kill anyone without any reason. It seems that no one has ever told him anything about the war and he does not know with what people and whose actions it begins and how the society can defend itself from them. It seems that in his family no one died in the war.

[navigator]

Quote: Tatiana

on the part of navigator (1), a slander against me and a defiantly incorrect sentence. For some reason, he, as a believer, selectively observes Christian commandments. And this is also bad. Let him bring at least one more post of mine for an example in which I call supposedly CONSTANTLY to kill someone without any reason. It seems that no one has ever told him anything about the war and he does not know with what people and their actions it begins and how the society can defend itself from them.

It’s time for you to calm down. You don’t hide your dislike for the Orthodox Church, you even write articles about it. I’m already accused of what they haven’t been accused of. I refute that you are beginning to justify that you haven’t read all my posts, but you have such an impression Another would stop, having made a mistake once, and you continue to ascribe other things to me unproven, on a whim, as you think. This time in selective observance of Christian commandments and ignorance of war, hatred. Probably, you know a lot about war. Do not want to start with yourself? For example, "Thou shalt not kill." You yourself will not kill, incite on the forum, this is not to shoot.

[fyvaprold]

Tatyana

Quote: Tatiana

Maybe Barbara’s mother helped her daughter get a foreign passport, not knowing which country her adult daughter was going to leave to.

Dear Tatyana, the fact is that Karaulov Sr., about whom navigator posted a lot of interesting things, back in June, even before Varenka was caught in Turkey, in an interview he said that his beloved daughter had traveled half the world and was lamenting what she was missing. So Sasha-Vary had a passport for a long time, but she flooded to Syria for thrills, like, "acute and national" wanted, as in an old joke, and would have received, as in the same joke (dagger in ... opu). But that is not the question. With what indifference it is necessary to treat your child, if he is riding alone around the world.

Quote: Tatiana

Then the mother can, from maternal feelings, simply take the daughter’s guilt upon herself.

I strongly disagree with you, Kira Karaulova, speaking about the fact that she helped her daughter change her name and obtain new documents, could not but know about her daughter's intentions, as well as that such actions fall under article 205.1 "Assistance in terrorist activities". Moreover, it seemed to me that Kira was making a statement with a rather arrogant, arrogant look. As I understand it, for the Karaulovs couple to issue new documents under a new name is an easier task than to track what their beloved daughter is doing, "...which the media unreasonably demonize (Kira Karaulova ©)". Moreover, everything that happens to me personally reminded me of a performance at the pederach" Let them talk "with Malakhov, daddy Tolokonnikova, who, when asked about the" performance "in the local history museum, with the telling name" @ be for the heir to the bear cub ", said that he was very offended that my daughter did not invite him in. My opinion: both Tolokonnikova and Karaulova-Ivanova are snickering majors, left to themselves, and who grew up in families with a flawed system of values, or even without one, and if Tolokno got off easily, then Karaulov-Ivanov should be packed in full And as for your statement that she should be killed, I understand that you most likely gave vent to emotions, but even if you said it seriously, then it was necessary to "blame" her in Syria, indirectly, by deprivation of citizenship and prohibition entering Russia, and not upon arrival, all the more, I assure you, death is not the worst thing that can happen to a person.
PS: Dear Tatyana и navigatorbiting with each other is a little constructive thing, the more we bite with each other, the more fun we deliver to our likely friends. For sim, I suggest you smoke a hookah of the world and leave the axes of war in those who really deserve it, all the more so, as I think, your dispute has come out of nowhere, the emotions of a lady and the straightforwardness of a man are few things combined. : laughing. My regards.

[Tatyana]

Dear Fyvaprold (3)!
I know one thing - an irreconcilable enemy must be destroyed, because either you are him, or he is you! There is no other way! Be vigilant and alert! Remember, behind your back the life of your relatives, the well-being of your people and country! Who in their right mind would object to me that this is wrong?
Therefore from his post

"Fool" either to the camps for hard work, to curse her "beloved", or, as under Stalin, - just shoot.
No sentiment - wartime.

I do not refuse. A similar statement was issued by me with the mention - “OR, like under Stalin, ...” - specifically and is, of course, primarily emotional, morally educational and helpful in nature for such as Barbara. At first I felt sorry for her too - thought better of her mind - and then again no more. You must not step on the same criminal rake twice. It’s clear that before the “Stalinist” times in Russia today is still far away. But they will, will certainly be, for the conflict in the Middle East is expanding and NATO openly threatens Russia. Time is becoming dangerous and, in fact, already military. Therefore, it is necessary to talk about the action of Barbara, and in general, forum users responded about it correctly. And the FSB of the Russian Federation and the court will figure it out as it is prescribed by law.
As for the respected navigator (1). Well, I do not like to swear !!! But, if they provoke me or threaten me, then I will definitely give "surrender" otherwise, it may turn out to be an elementary victim torn to pieces. The enemy should be scared so that he does not molest with his aggression. These are the rules of psychology in the theory of self-defense.
And against the respected navigator (1), I personally have nothing evil. Every person has the right to express his opinion, based on his life experience, occupation, service and beliefs - it is only desirable to conduct polemics correctly! Without hanging labels like "Zasulich" and snooty provocative proposals "to shoot myself personally."
Therefore, your proposal, dear fyvaprold (3), do not continue to amuse the public I certainly consider it constructive. If, dear navigator (1), he considers it possible to agree with me, I will only be glad.

[patriot-rf]

she goes under the article from 5 to 10, so that doesn’t work for a year or two. In Russia, they only managed to go to extremes, so = poor girl = show up in sunny Magadan for 5-7 years, other young people = romantic = id ..you will make some conclusions

[LeftPers]

"... just shoot ..."
For, with both hands, because she is not a village idiot, educated, which means she knows where she wants to get involved. And what they do, everyone knows. And that means there is no forgiveness to her, in the mines or against the wall.

[Vladimir65]

Do not make Stalin a terrible ghoul. He approached questions about executions humanely. http://nik191-1.ucoz.ru/publ/istorija_sobytija_i_ljudi/istorija_sobytija_i_ljudi
/ quot_nevinnye_quot_zhertvy_stalinskikh_repressij / 7-1-0-3521

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

tough but right ...

[Sling cutter]

But hto she finally can be like that - it’s Varya Karaulova, what is the reason for this fuss?

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Stroporez

But hto she finally can be like that - it’s Varya Karaulova, what is the reason for this fuss?

A suicide bomber candidate, one of the "gurias" of ISIS, a native Muscovite, the daughter of a dad with connections, a каk̶o̶m̶s̶o̶m̶o̶l̶k̶a major and a repeat offender runner to the Iblis State. You probably went around the world? . Sincerely.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: fyvaprold

You probably went around the world? laughing Sincerely.

yes .. ahh, digress a bit
Thank you!

[jaguar]

And here I had a question .... if he is in contact with a recruiter it is clear that he is known who he is and where he is .... so why is he still not sent to Allah !!!

[Sober]

Quote: jaguar

so why is he still not sent to Allah !!!

This is, indeed, the most important point in the article!
The girl does not seem to be fixed; brains are dislocated, the soul is not clear where? I feel sorry for her. And, behold, a recruiter who continues to recruit, why is he free?
I think the question is very serious! And scary!

[Fin]

Quote: Sober

And, behold, a recruiter who continues to recruit, why is he free?

And why did you decide that he was in the Russian Federation? This one can recruit fools anywhere on the computer.

[pilot8878]

Quote: Fin

And why did you decide that he was in the Russian Federation? This one can recruit fools anywhere on the computer.

I remember that Johar found a rocket on the phone. Not?

[fyvaprold]

Quote: pilot8878

I remember that Johar found a rocket on the phone. Not?

Yes, by satellite phone, but not by Facebook. Sincerely.

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

found ... and this is necessary ...

[Sober]

I really didn’t think so.

[Watchdog]

So the cat is clear - the point is to poison every rat - you have to poison the rat king. And it is still necessary to develop it! Do not worry, everyone will be rewarded.
And Allah doesn’t take these to himself ...

[Homo]

Quote: Sober

And, behold, a recruiter who continues to recruit, why is he free?
I think the question is very serious! And scary!

Why are you as simple as a bicycle ??? Well, they took a recruiter, and then what, watch out for hundreds of idiots who will look for a path to ISIS? It’s easier to keep track of one recruiter!

[Sober]

Maybe you are right.

[Saratoga833]

Quote: Homo

It’s easier to keep track of one recruiter!

There is no need to follow him! Otherwise we will inherit! To kill a snake, you need to tear off its head, and not "follow". The recruiter is the head of the snake!

[Marconi41]

Quote: Homo

Well, they took a recruiter, and then what, watch out for hundreds of idiots who will look for a path to ISIS?

If the information was announced in the media, then the further development of this recruiter has already been completed. Most likely he is not available to our court. Yes, and change the computer or IP in our time is a trifle.

[Vadim12]

We have not only the most humane court, but also the most original special services: until you kick, they won’t work. Well, or for show, for the report.

[Ria]

Oh, crucified. Shoulder straps general? I doubt it. You have no idea about serious things, do not ring.

[Koshak]

Quote: jaguar

And here I had a question .... if he is in contact with a recruiter it is clear that he is known who he is and where he is .... so why is he still not sent to Allah !!!

Do you think that he is sitting in the house next to you? The Internet is a global network, and anyone can recruit such idiots. But it seems that in this case the proverb comes to the account of a hunchback and a grave.

[patriot-rf]

took them, took them

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

right question ... why ???????

[Platonich]

Our liberals will not give! She is now the heroine of the day. How many zhurnalyugi tryndeli-two weeks for all the media! And it was necessary to quietly and quietly dig beds in Kolyma along with this bearded scum-recruiter! No way, we have democracy! Get together!

[Eugene-Eugene]

Our liberasta will not give!

Anizhidi

[Sober]

That the recruiter is still at large, this is not democracy, but betrayal. And not in weak structures.

[stavr550]

for a couple of years, she’ll get there sensibly everything will be brought to her microscopic brain

[Koshak]

Quote: Corsair0304

That is the sadness that after the "helicopter" and other delights, this idiot can return to Russia with a martyr's belt. So on figs on figs - lawyers on the side and in sunny Magadan. Let him work for the rest of his life. Another example is oversight.

As the saying goes: "The grave will fix the hunchback." That's just the way to the grave.

[Simon]

ISIS will make it a living, walking bomb and tear it to pieces, it is only a pity that innocent people will die.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: sasha 19871987

oh fool naive

Here it is evidence that no matter how you study, and the law is not written for fools (Russian proverb)

[Eragon]

Quote: Sasha 19871987

oh fool naive ... there is war and their heads cut off, not the best place for romance ... or does she want to be a slave to the stinky bearded scumbag ???

She should have one address - durka. And sterilization - so that nonsense by genes is not transmitted.

[yushch]

What naive fool is she ?? A man who betrayed the faith of his ancestors will continue to betray. So being a slave of a stinking bearded scumbag and I hope not only this is her conscious choice.

[EwgenyZ]

yushch

Quote: yushch

A man who betrayed the faith of his ancestors will continue to betray.

Calm down, She did not betray the faith of her ancestors, tk. She didn't have any faith. Maybe she was baptized in childhood, but for the majority of Russians, as for Varenka KARAULOVA, baptism is a convention, so to speak, a folklore rite. In the sense of faith, She was a "blank sheet", and unfortunately this sheet was "filled" with Arabic script, not Cyrillic ...

[yushch]

Do you take too much into speaking out for the majority of Russians? If for you this folklore ceremony is your problem. For me it is the faith of my Ancestors who defended the freedom and independence of my Country. she blew herself up at a Turkish police station a couple of years ago. She also left for great and pure love, but at least she did not betray the faith of her fathers, although this does not justify her act.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: yushch

Do you take a lot of yourself speaking out for most Russians?

Bravo! If a person is an atheist and considers the Sacrament of Baptism to be a mere formality, then this is his own business and there is no need to project his worldview onto others, and even more so on the "majority."
А EwgenyZ, I would advise to "gain faith" if he has lost it and wants to find it again, sit somewhere under fire, if possible, mortar or artillery, in the trenches, as you know, there are no atheists . Sincerely.

[EwgenyZ]

fyvaprold

If a person is an atheist and considers the Sacrament of Baptism as a mere formality, then this is his own business.

Respected fyvaprold, I’m not an atheist, but unfortunately I can’t call myself church ....
And after baptism I will tell you, as yushch said: go to church for Sunday liturgy, and then go to some mall and "feel the difference." Where will there be more people ?!

Quote: fyvaprold

And EwgenyZ, I would advise for "gaining faith", if he has lost it and wants to find it again, sit somewhere under fire, if possible, mortar or artillery, in the trenches, as you know, there are no atheists

Thanks for the advice ... I gained faith in the early nineties, and didn’t lose time))). It's just that when people with a big seal “sign” for others, you always want to correct them, to put it mildly. Unfortunately, today, most Russians are only formally Orthodox .... Many baptize children without realizing the essence of what is happening. But, after all, baptism is a serious step and a great responsibility before the children you baptize. And if he christened, and then forgot the road to the church, what do you think is not a formal approach !? "Faith without works is dead" (James 2,17:XNUMX), and from myself I will add "Faith without works is a simple formality" ...

[fyvaprold]

Quote: EwgenyZ

And if you christened it, and after the way to the church I forgot that this is your way as not a formal approach !?

I absolutely agree with you, this approach is wrong and many, I emphasize - many, do this. Many people believe that having defended the Liturgy, they have fulfilled their duty and regard it more as a "obligation" than as a spiritual impulse, so to speak. Perhaps this is a really formal, without any quotation marks, attitude towards Vera, but I would not categorically declare the "majority". Since ancient times, there is a saying: "The number of believers decreases by Lent and increases by Easter"and so it was at all times and in all religions. But the question is different: whose values ​​(religious) a person considers his life, and this is what, as it seems to me, he meant yushchwhen he wrote:

Quote: yushch

A man who betrayed the faith of his ancestors will continue to betray. So being a slave of a stinking bearded scumbag and I hope not only this is her conscious choice.

And here he is absolutely right. And visiting the mall, so not everyone goes there to have fun, that's why it is "shopping", grocery stores also visit churches more often, in my opinion, not quite a correct example. I would advise you to compare the attendance of porn sites and, say, the site of the Russian Orthodox Church, although this is not an indicator of spirituality or its absence. I happened to see "brothers" in churches, on which there were more "partak" than in the temple of frescoes, and I saw nuns in the mall collecting donations "For the Temple" and this does not make the nun a "formalist" and the bandos "saint." IMHO. Sincerely.

[EwgenyZ]

Quote: fyvaprold

Many believe that having defended the Liturgy, they have fulfilled their duty and treat it more as a "obligation" than as a spiritual impulse

I agree, I agree a hundred times.

Quote: fyvaprold

but I would not categorically declare the "majority".

Ask 10 people who they are by faith, 7 out of 10 will say - Orthodox, ask these 7, and what for them to be Orthodox? Do they know Our Father, the Symbol of Faith, do they observe the fasts and what fasts they know, do they go to church, do they confess, do they take the sacrament of the sacrament? One or two people will answer the last question in the affirmative ... For the other five, Orthodoxy will be simple folklore, like Russian, which means it must be Orthodox and no more. Well, as for me in childhood, being a pioneer or an Octobrist did not mean anything, it just had to be ... Although, of course, an affirmative answer to the above questions does not guarantee that a person has faith.

Quote: fyvaprold

And here he is absolutely right.

He is right only if the person is a believer, but even then there is a big question. Mademoiselle KARAULOVA was not a believer, so she could not betray the faith of her ancestors. I drew yushch's attention to the fact that She was spiritually a "blank slate" (that is how She was brought up) and there was a person who took advantage of this circumstance and "converted" the girl to his faith, and whether His faith is correct or not is another question.

[EwgenyZ]

yushch

Do you take a lot of yourself speaking out for most Russians?

No, I don’t take much.

Quote: yushch

If for you this is a folk rite, this is your problem.

For me, baptism is not a rite, every Sunday I go to church and my child has been going to Sunday school for the second year already, and I know the situation, so to speak, from the inside. When were you the last time you were in church? You go to the church on a "regular" Sunday, and not on a church holiday, and then, without waiting for the end of the liturgy, go to the nearest shopping center and compare how many people are at the Altar, and how many went shopping, see a movie or just stroll around the shopping center. So think for whom baptism is the Choice of the Heart, and for whom it is a tribute to folklore.

reassure better than the parents of an 18-year-old girl from the Caucasus who blew herself up at the Turkish police station a couple of years ago. She also left for great and pure love, but at least she did not betray the faith of her fathers, although this does not justify her act.

And what to calm them down is the result created by them. By the way, Varenka's dad has a colorful personality, apparently from here and the result. Like many "enlightened" people, too, go down, he believed that in childhood it is not necessary to "impose" a worldview on a child, he will grow up, they say, and she will determine herself, so She decided, as the saying goes: "For what we fought, we ran into it."
And here is a little about dad:

Varvara Karaulova’s father, Pavel Karaulov, is a graduate of the English special school and Moscow State University (two parallel diplomas), then a third diploma in the USA. In the past, as a consultant to oil companies, he worked for several years in foreign companies, including as marketing director at Scully Systems Inc (USA).
Upon returning to Russia, he worked in several large companies, then became the general director and co-owner of the "Divizion" chain of stores (this is the last name, the company changed it several times during its existence), which existed for about 10 years (starting with the import of Motorola mobile phones in the 90s years).
He has a rich track record (it does not make sense to list everything), has not stayed anywhere for a long time, but everywhere was not in the last places
Since 2011, he headed (and was one of the founders) of the Informzashita Group of Companies, which consists of 5 companies. The services of this GC, among others, are used by the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation, the Bank of Russia, Sberbank, VTB, Rosatom, Beeline, etc. So dad is directly connected with state secrets and really has the necessary connections. After the well-known events, he closed his Facebook page for obvious reasons.
Pavel Karaulov divorced his mother Varya some time ago. Mom has a new family.
Her grandmother works at Moscow State University (where Varvara Karaulova is a student).

info from here http://www.bolshoyvopros.ru/questions/1589391-kto-otec-u-varvary-karaulovoj.html

[EwgenyZ]

yushch

God is within everyone; he is not in the church.

"To whom the Church is not a mother - to that God is not a father" (Cyprian of Carthage). You, I see, have sooooo great spiritual baggage. And such teachers are "not a decree" for you. I know, I know those who do not need "intermediaries" for communication with God. This approach is characteristic of the Protestant, and not at all for the Orthodox. By the way, in the majority of Protestant churches now homosexuals are ordained as priests ... This is one of the results of the "I do not need a mediator" approach. If you are talking about such "ancestral faith", then you are a little confused. Russia has never been a Protestant country ...

If for you the measure of faith is determined by the number of visits to the church, then accept my condolences, this is not an indicator of the strength of faith.

I agree to one hundred percent! Frequent church attendance is not an indicator of faith. Nor is the degree of scholarship a university degree. Many sit for the prescribed time at the university and then for a "small" remuneration, not particularly clean teachers, receive the coveted crusts. But only without studying at a university it is difficult to become a scientist, and to obtain knowledge, mentors (intermediaries between us and knowledge) and frequent visits to the almamater are also required.

I’ll also add that I live all my life in the Caucasus and most of the people who practice Islam go to the mosque on holidays, too, but if you tell any of them about folklore and fake faith, then in the best case you will get it in the face, and in the worst case They will kill you.

And what has Islam got to do with it? We are talking about the attitude of the majority of Russians to the faith. But if the conversation has already started, I will also give a couple of examples: my friend is married to a purebred Bashkir woman, and often travels to her Malaya Rodina in the Bashkir village of the Chelyabinsk region, and there the situation is the same as with the Russians, they call themselves Muslims, but in fact .. ., my wife's cousin is a Tatar from the Perm region, he also considers Himself to be faithful, which does not prevent Him from drinking godlessly and eating bacon. And I saw the highlanders from the North Caucasus more than once drunk "in the wood" ...

Therefore, I strongly do not recommend saying this to the Orthodox, among them there will also be people who can explain that you are wrong.

Duck I am not talking about the formality of faith, the priests speak about it from the pulpit during the sermon. And I gave you an example with entertainment centers. Yes, and the Lord warned: "These people draw near to Me with their mouths, and honor Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me" (Matt. 15: 8) or the parable of the "Banned Feast" from the Gospel.

[EwgenyZ]

Quote: yushch

People turn to God many times a day, for this, every time you can’t go to church. Therefore, people go on Sundays or church holidays.

Respected yushch, one thing - "it does not work", and another - "I don't need this nafig".

Quote: yushch

And the transition to another religion in all faiths is considered a grave misconduct

But what about the wife who goes into the faith of her husband? And with people disappointed in a professed religion?

[Outside]

I agree. Temple, it’s not from logs. Temple - it is from the ribs.

[navigator]

Quote: yushch

No need to tell me about churches and shopping centers on holidays. What you wrote just speaks of your concept of faith in God. God is within everyone; he is not in the church.

For what merits did He settle in your soul? One priest said well about this: "To all who believe in their souls, I always offer this exercise: eat in the shower, drink in the shower, marry in the shower. I liked the girl, I married her in my soul, and that's all. to go to the cashier for a salary ... Faith in the soul is generally the absence of faith. "

[fyvaprold]

Quote: EwgenyZ

Varvara Karaulova’s father, Pavel Karaulov, is a graduate of the English special school and Moscow State University (two parallel diplomas), then a third diploma in the USA. In the past, as a consultant to oil companies, he worked for several years in foreign companies, including as marketing director at Scully Systems Inc (USA).
Upon returning to Russia, he worked in several large companies, then became the general director and co-owner of the "Divizion" chain of stores (this is the last name, the company changed it several times during its existence), which existed for about 10 years (starting with the import of Motorola mobile phones in the 90s years).
He has a rich track record (it does not make sense to list everything), has not stayed anywhere for a long time, but everywhere was not in the last places
Since 2011, he headed (and was one of the founders) of the Informzashita Group of Companies, which consists of 5 companies. The services of this GC, among others, are used by the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation, the Bank of Russia, Sberbank, VTB, Rosatom, Beeline, etc. So dad is directly connected with state secrets and really has the necessary connections. After the well-known events, he closed his Facebook page for obvious reasons.
Pavel Karaulov divorced his mother Varya some time ago. Mom has a new family.
Her grandmother works at Moscow State University (where Varvara Karaulova is a student).

Maybe they got to dad through черезF̶a̶t̶i̶m̶u Varenka, (or Sasha, according to the latest data)? Then this is already a completely different scenario, and the secretary dad, taking into account Varenkina (Sashenkina) obstinacy, should have carried out a transorbital lobotomy so that she wouldn’t lose it when his beloved Fatima declares that the evil brothers by faith took her hostage. Sincerely.

[EwgenyZ]

Quote: fyvaprold

Maybe they got to dad through черезF̶a̶t̶i̶m̶u Varenka, (or Sasha, according to the latest data)?

Probably.

[raid14]

You are mistaken, no, she is not at all a naive fool, but a "sleeping agent".

[shosha]

Well, they don’t teach a rake.

[ledi irina]

And not a single bearded, for that they go. It was necessary to release from the country.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

So why the recruiter with whom she contacts will not be arrested?

[aleks 62 next]

..... So why the recruiter with whom she contacts will not be arrested? ...


.... Difficult .... Apparently he is there (in Syria) .... As I understand it, he communicated with him no ....

[PSih2097]

Quote: Lt. Air Force stock

So why the recruiter with whom she contacts will not be arrested?

and who will give it, he’s not in the territory of the Russian Federation, how can I send her to Beslan, they will explain everything to her popularly, moreover, according to the laws of Sharia and Adat ...

[vorobey]

Quote: PSih2097

send her to Beslan, there everything will be popularly explained to her, moreover, according to the laws of Sharia and Adat ...

Ossetians Christians ... you confuse something ..

[pilot8878]

Quote: vorobey

Ossetians Christians ... you confuse something ..

But they remember their school well. And September 1 is not a holiday with them.

[sherp2015]

Quote: vorobey

Quote: PSih2097
send her to Beslan, there everything will be popularly explained to her, moreover, according to the laws of Sharia and Adat ...

Ossetians Christians ... you confuse something ..

I dare to object to you - not all. Ossetians are different. Digorians, Irons, Kudars, etc. A significant part of the Ossetians profess Islam

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: PSih2097

and who will give it, he’s not in the territory of the Russian Federation, how can I send her to Beslan, they will explain everything to her popularly, moreover, according to the laws of Sharia and Adat ...

We have the Vympel special forces, which should act in such cases, carry out special operations abroad.

[Vishnevsky]

Pennant has long been retrained from reconnaissance and sabotage work on anti-terrorism.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

So why the recruiter with whom she contacts will not be arrested?

And he is a sucker in your opinion, it is not so easy to calculate, and he can sit, where in the Syrian Raqqi district.

[Rader]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

So why the recruiter with whom she contacts will not be arrested?

And he is a sucker in your opinion, it is not so easy to calculate, and he can sit, where in the Syrian Raqqi district.

Well, in this case, the videoconferencing will simply have to make a vivid (in every sense) example of him, that "the recruitment of Russian citizens is Fatally harmful to your health !!!!"

[Marconi41]

Quote: Rader

Well, in this case, the videoconferencing will simply have to make him a vivid (in every sense) example that "recruiting Russian citizens is fatally harmful to your health !!!!

Yes sir! And with it, and a couple of dozen civilians living in neighboring houses! Everything would be so simple. In addition, ISIS recruiters have not a dozen or a hundred, and because of one fool to spend a bunch of money on the destruction of one person is at least expensive.

[vkl-47]

Treatment by labor! With Kyle in his hands all the nonsense will come out of the head.

[Vend]

Quote: maximNNX

yes let him go with ... ka!

What does it mean let him go. ISIS is a banned organization in Russia. If after she was smeared out her mind did not increase, let her answer according to the law.

[Maxom75]

In a psychiatric hospital for drug blockade until it becomes a vegetable.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: maximNNX

yes, let him go with ... ka! Well, the girl wants to ride a "helicopter"

I absolutely agree with you. Revoke citizenship, buy a ticket to Raqqa and let ... blow. After all, she did not go to her Iblis State not to read fairy tales to children for the night, but to push the driftwood apart in front of all sorts of shaggy ghouls, or try herself as a self-propelled bomb. And to attract a "loving dad" for complicity, if he could not bring up in the right direction, or at least control his child, then let him answer. Sincerely.

[Saratovets]

the problem is that from such as she is a shahidok and do ..

[Dreiko11]

let them let go of some people just don’t get what the IG is, let them understand it already there in the harem or in another mess where they put it

[Alex20042004]

Love is evil .....
Well, now, seriously, how can one legally qualify "... maintaining contacts with a person whom he considers to be his beloved ..."? And under what article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation?
I answer: NEVER.
I believe that just like that, the IC of the Russian Federation will not authorize the arrest of a citizen of the Russian Federation.
So there is something more serious.

[inkass_98]

If a person is an idiot, then this is forever

[Andryukha]

In five years, the frenzy of love will pass anyway

[Deniska]

love waste will pass

Love frenzy will take place after initiation into the "Muslim ISIS". According to their rules, five ISIS members should "fuck" her, only after that she will cease to be unfaithful :)

[Sober]

Quote: Andryukha

In five years, the frenzy of love will pass anyway

The burn will pass, but the psyche cannot be corrected.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Andryukha

In five years, the frenzy of love will pass anyway

Well, it depends on where to sit, maybe it will be earlier . Sincerely.

[figwam]

If a person is an idiot, then this is forever

The main thing is that this idiot does not hit the bomb in our country.

[Andryukha]

These are our women:
horse on a gallop, in a burning hut

What a pity that not men use it ...

[Sober]

This is what your women are.

[Amurets]

If a woman’s lamp lights up from behind, no firefighter will extinguish. One remedy: occupational therapy in the fresh air before losing heartbeat. In Russia, girls in ancient times were taught and loaded with work to make dope fly. The more dope, the more work.

[Andryukha]

In the Urals, there are quite a few who will go for their beloved in fire and water. More than sure that for her inner world - this is a feat.
But this does not negate the fact that everyone around sees a full fool. About the bulb - below - it is very correctly noticed.
I repeat once again - those who use this need to be punished especially severely, because they kill the internal essence of the Russian person - the willingness to lay down their lives for good.

[Decathlon]

To Savchenko in jail! Let them bang ....

[Vladimir Pozlnyakov]

Heads against the wall!

[Same lech]

However, as it turns out now, the connections were not broken, and Karaulova continued to maintain contacts with the person whom she considers her lover and who recruited her to move to ISIS terrorists in Syria.

Here is the case when tolerance is inappropriate ...

God forbid, this beautiful Russian girl, bound with explosives, will go by the order of her lover to our homes, to our children ...
no, it’s better to stop this sweet couple in the bud ....

the recruiter must sit firmly on the bunk ... followed by deportation to ALLAH.

[Corsair0304]

Mood.ak, who uses children to kill his own kind, is certainly not worthy of Allah.
To Iblis, definitely.

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Here is the case when tolerance is inappropriate ...

[Xergey]

I agree, then because of this Vari-creature, 50 normal girls will die.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

... followed by deportation to ALLAH.

This recruiter has the same relationship with Allah as the Ukrainians have in building the pyramids in Giza. Expulsion is possible exclusively to Iblis, it will be remembered not by night. Sincerely.

[cniza]

This is a misfortune and a big misfortune ... "We are badly educating our youth."

[Platonich]

There was no need to disperse the Octobrists, pioneers and the Komsomol !!!

[sherp2015]

Quote: Platonitch

There was no need to disperse the Octobrists, pioneers and the Komsomol !!!

So the Soviet Union was not worth destroying at the very beginning of the whole catavasia

[Sober]

Oh, how I agree with you !!!!!!

[sherp2015]

Quote: cniza

This is a misfortune and a big misfortune ... "We are badly educating our youth."

With such a Ministry of Education and Minister Livanov, what kind of education is there ...

[44 World]

Well, as they say, you do not want it yourself, and for good, that means special services will help ...

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: 44World

Well, as they say, you do not want it yourself, and for good, that means special services will help ...

Quote: feokot1982

sew in a beacon. Then they will be released to Syria. And in a week, they will be zhakhut to the place where the signal will come from ...

[morpogr]

Yes, love is evil, fell in love with a moron from igil. Well, apparently she really wants Sharia romance.

[gg.na]

this is soooooooooooooooo !!! Love of evil - and a goat and a dibil from igil will fall in love to the first belt of a shahid !!!

[kepmor]

Wrong! An exemplary trial for aiding terrorism and a real term! To answer for your convictions too!

[demo]

In Russia, before the revolution of 1917, there was a special form of so-called - rehabilitation - a monastery.
Novice.
If the disease does not go away in a year, then it remains for another year.
Hard physical work, the absence of external stimuli bore fruit.
Well, the young lady is looking for her love in her fantasies. And transfers his dreams to some kind of monster.
She has not a weak but a sick psyche.
It will not work.
Only her isolation from herself.

[Aleksey888]

Actually, this is an article, not a "fragile psyche."

[Bronik]

Or maybe she’s already reverted, but the boys don’t know?

[Sober]

Interesting idea! It is a pity that only pulls on humor.

[Igor39]

So they understood and forgave her, they will understand and forgive now ....

[gg.na]

they didn’t understand and didn’t forgive it, but decided to observe it and check what they did with success! Everything was thought out and there was tight and vigilant control for it! And now it would be necessary to conduct a show trial and a real maximum term.

[Manul]

And what, prostitutes in Turkey are no longer recruited? All vacancies are occupied by Ukrainians, what is more profitable to recruit to Igil, and not to sell to a brothel according to a worked-out scheme?
Such recruiters should be removed in a quiet manner, so that it would be inconsistent with others.

[but still]

Oh, Barbara, your poor parents! Note to parents - children need to be diversified - there must be not only books and textbooks, but cupids are different there - and parents need to somehow direct and control this. Big kids are big problems ...

[Deniska]

Fool duck ... Let her go ...

[combat66]

Victim of raging hormones. If the cerebellum is weak, it steers the front end and then all morality is useless. Yes, the fight with hormones in our country is usually successful through vitamin deficiency (Kolyma, etc.)
Here is a sweetheart and will find there "sweetheart"

[Free Cossack]

Such a beautiful Russian name, studying at a prestigious university, and a fool girl is a fool.

[kit-kat]

She is not just a fool, she is already an enemy.

[Fight cat]

a mysterious female soul, maybe just someone thread normally fucks a girl simply. to shake all brains out of it !!!

[ma_shlomha]

If only women were in politics, then wars would not be for oil, but for the fact that one of the others had taken the man away. The bomb could be launched simply out of whim or on emotions.
Women are emotionally unstable due to hormones. A classic example is PMS!
Emotions prevent women from making informed decisions. Therefore, they should not be allowed into power and to leading posts!
Hysteria is a typical property of a female character. Well, “hysteria” is from the Greek word “womb”!
Myths about the female psyche?

[Sober]

Going to power, women are no longer men and women. Man to push and get in? Hm!

[Andryukha]

and the men who go to power are not men?
I personally saw both men and women trying to dominate. Difficult to determine who is worse: aggressive men or tricky women.

[sa-zz]

The recruiters of this organized crime group (such as recruiters in different sects), at one glance of a potential client, determine the approach to it. Whether it's hormones or something in the family.
PARENTS! BE CAREFULL!

[Platonich]

Great photo!!! Everything is read on vile erysipelas !!!

[Mostovik]

Let go, why plant.

[Aleksandr2012]

Peers paid little attention, hormones play, brains are absent. So the devil suffered where.

[gg.na]

In general, the girl does not shine with intellect, as soon as she was able to enter Moscow State University. Yes, even on the Phil fact! Or have you decided all the money ??!

[Sober]

In general, the girl does not shine with intelligence, as soon as she was able to do it at Moscow State University. [/ Quote]
Mind and mind are two different things.

[feokot1982]

it is necessary to sew a beacon in it and release it to Syria, and after a week to the place from where the signal will caliber

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: feokot1982

it is necessary to sew a beacon in it and release it to Syria, and after a week to the place from where the signal will caliber

I - so only for!

[am808s]

Then WE will already be engaged in the preparation of suicide bombers. Stupid, it’s just worth punishing by age so that you don’t think about permissiveness. And what such grew up the first you need to pour dad with mom!

[Amurets]

Dad and mom are to blame but not to the same extent to flog. I don’t know, but in my opinion society is to blame. Why do I say that? Yes, because the educational process in our country is aimed only at the ruble or the dollar. There is no ideological education in the school, there is no training , one cramming aimed at the Unified State Examination. Some of the older generation on the forum remember how the educational work was carried out. During training, they forced to think, and after school in educational institutions they forced or taught how to figure out the decisions made. And now not educating in school no sensible learning.

[feokot1982]

The eternal theme: "in our time there was no such garbage." Probably as long as humanity will exist, the older generation will abuse the younger. In fact, if you look at it, then in your time there were enough muDaks.

[Andryukha]

Do you really want your child to be brought up by a school graduate from a pedagogical institute? I beg of you!..
But seriously, the teacher must give knowledge, educate - the task of parents. So the teachers themselves say.
In general, in my opinion, school plays a decisive role in education only when no one else is engaged in raising a child.
Judge for yourself: an example of parents, friends, a coach in the sports section, teachers at an art school, a school, an English repeater ...

[barclay]

The best folk remedy for herbs is nettles on the ass. Can it help?

[Sober]

nettles on the ass.
This weed is valid until a certain age.

[rubidium]

every family has its black sheep. Parents are still 100% to blame.

[DenZ]

In foolishness, she doesn’t know, forcibly if she doesn’t understand Russian.

[afrikanez]

It was necessary to immediately determine in Kashchenko, examine it and so on. Maybe then the brains would fall into place.

[Kargana]

The strange place of Moscow State University is that liberals breed with them, then ISIS recruiters work ...

[kit-kat]

There is also a higher school of economics. Things are even worse there.

[Kelwin]

There are so many names of all kinds of dope in the local toilet that not only liberals, but mutants from the resident ivel will appear soon, if not already.

[Michael easily]

Let Varenka shout: "CARAUL", so that the "friends" flock to strengthen the "fragile psyche" and to heal ...

[Hardy]

Quote: morpogr

Yes, love is evil, fell in love with a moron from igil. Well, apparently she really wants Sharia romance.

This is a natural behavior for women. Especially in times of a change in social attitudes, when social instincts become less significant and the brain falls under the control of the ancient limbic system. In the history of Russia, as well as other countries, such examples of revolutionary terrorists are enough.
This is the law of nature. The main criteria for choosing a partner for the female are his uniqueness and strength. Moreover, the strength of a girl means confidence or even a dumb obsession. Against the background of reflecting Moscow boys, brutal bearded males have good chances.
Trying to explain something to a girl under hormonal drugs is completely pointless. Judging for a natural physiological reaction is all the more stupid.
This behavior of women is a consequence of the collapse of the Western social model that we adopted; it turned out to be unnatural. As life shows, girls do not need gender equality. They like it when harder)))
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"A good man always has a difficult relationship with women. And I am a good man. I declare without a shadow of embarrassment, because there is nothing to be proud of. A good man is expected to behave accordingly. High demands are made on him. He carries a daily painful burden of nobility and intelligence , diligence, conscience, humor, and then they leave him for the sake of some notorious bastard, and this bastard is told, laughing, about the boring virtues of a good man.
Women love only scoundrels, everyone knows that. However, not everyone can be a bastard. I had a familiar currency shark. He beat his wife with a shovel handle. Gave her a shampoo to her lover. He killed the cat. Once in my life I made her a cheese sandwich. The wife wept all night from tenderness and tenderness. Canned nine years in Mordovia sent. Waiting ...
A good man, who needs him, I ask? .. "
S. Dovlatov

[2s1122]

I didn’t understand in Moscow that there weren’t any normal guys from the Caucasus. Real dzhigits (this is what if she wanted the East so much), but there’s some Moscow murmur.

[drlalex]

The girl really does not sparkle with the mind, but here it is more likely the problem of the parents. Dad there is not that it would be very adequate, here she is and is ready to go anywhere only far away.
It is necessary to bring up children, and do not be shy to tell stories from real life (about Japan, Afghanistan, Germany, America, and now Libya, Syria, whose ears stick out, etc.).

[VNP1958PVN]

And here the mind-like girl appeal! Women, they not only understand the mind ...

[Anchonsha]

Yes, count between her legs and that's it. Well, what the hell with this scum to get dirty, but in general let him go where he wants and get his own.

[kit-kat]

But now you can plant as a terrorist.

[Lelek]

(However, as it turns out now, the connections were not broken, and Karaulova continued to maintain contacts with the person whom she considers her lover and who recruited her to move to ISIS terrorists in Syria.)

Advice to Papa Barbara: TURN YOUR ASS TO THE BLOOD, not looking at the Squeal, and the photo of the ass was sent to her e-mail.

[Sasha_Sar]

What women are fools in Russia. Promise to marry you, even to the ends of the world, even to the ends ...

[Windy]

Another candidate for a position in the administration of Saakashvili.

[Baloo]

I sympathize with the grief of my parents. This fool does not know how the blood smells, does not understand the difference between life and death. Will psychotherapists help? I do not know. In addition to cockroaches, love-carrots, there may be family matters. Can she be sentenced to community service as a nurse in intensive care? or morgue?

[Amurets]

Well done Balu. It’s necessary to see how it smells. Blood, corpses, suddenly, from behind, give a couple of bursts from the machine gun, and let them smell the gunpowder, maybe then you’ll get your mind around. then you can return to the beginning. But life, unfortunately, is not a computer game.

[Hairy Siberian]

That's where the parents of Varvara Karaulova looked. It was necessary to immediately scream when she shouted to the Barbarians.

[Reptiloid]

And how many Russian women married the Egyptians, signing without understanding the contract and losing their money (from the sold apartment) .... Strange creatures .... Exotics wanted something?

[YGV-97219]

Hunchback grave correct! Popular wisdom, however!

[2s1122]

You all, what a stupid girl. An adult and a student at Moscow State University. Between corruption, criminal liability begins at the age of 16. Such a grave will only fix it. It’s interesting only to dad a little or not.

[Amurets]

What's the difference, otmazhet, not otmazhet, the main thing is that now the brains "can be" right. Well, you have to be such a fool to break the prescribed rules of behavior, because you warned.

[Baloo]

Infantilism is not an excuse for irresponsibility, but it is precisely infantilism that is a typical feature of this Pepsi generation. I am far beyond 50, I was not an exemplary student or student. Thanks to the teachers, became a man. For us, nariks and alkanauts were clowns, otherwise they were not perceived. Although I grew up in slums, but I had no time to deal with stupid things. I've always been busy with something. Drink water from the column. go to the store or the bazaar, visit relatives. If not in training, then in a circle or library. We had a switch to a new English program in grade 5. There were no textbooks, one to 6-7 people. When I ran from the pool, on the way I ran to a classmate, then home. I had 40 minutes to dine and do my homework, and another 15 minutes running about school.
As a child, I found those who fought. The memory of those killed in the war was sacred. We even had guys Timurovtsy, though mostly girls. Respect for elders was fostered. The Pepsi generation grew up on endless ugly animated series about the Simpsons (although in some countries of Europe they were banned, like ugly children), sugary Disney cartoons and Hollywood action films. Films were even played on some channels, as they make porn films from interviews with artists and actresses.
This generation of Pepsi grew up to the accompaniment of lies about our history, desecration, what authority did this generation have? schoolgirls wrote in writings that they dream of becoming currency prostitutes, thief-in-law guys, bankers or robbing a bank. Here is this fool ... In the family, probably not everything is all right or shut up. So I found comfort, positive emotions in the arms of a bastard. A sad story, will its time be cured?

[rustemkm]

Well, if the fool did not learn the lesson, did not appreciate the chance that she was given, then let him now study the beauty of the Magadan Territory!

[MSL]

Quote: Platonitch

There was no need to disperse the Octobrists, pioneers and the Komsomol !!!

That's right, children’s and youthful PATRIOTIC organizations are needed, preferably massive ones, you can’t give up education to virtual games and the Internet. And someone should do this .........
And Russia lost this concrete girl. She became an enemy. When they searched, they freed, they thought, they dusted the brains of the fool, now it’s clear - they washed it specifically.

[Baloo]

MSL That's right, children’s and youthful PATRIOTIC organizations are needed, preferably mass

I support. Not the scouts. Let them call themselves falcon eagles, but not the Boy Scouts. Although much can be learned from the scouting movement itself.
I would love to go to such a camp next summer with a 7-year-old grandson so that I could grow up as a man, learn how to love and protect my homeland, make friends with sports. There are many offers, and could not decide. Friends, who will advise what on the Black Sea coast? He often gets sick with me. We don’t go to the doctors for six months after the sea.

[dchegrinec]

It would be nice to find this lover and put him without interrogation for interrogation with an addiction with a lamp in his face, under the supervision of Barbara. As the saying goes, a wedge is a wedge.

[2s1122]

Why is it a light bulb in his face, I think in the ass all the same it will be better
the conversation will be with a twist

[anderles66]

The story is not so simple. Pay attention to the operation itself upon its return and to the attention paid to it again. Dad is not a little lump in an organization working on the subject of encryption. Including, as I understand it, in the interests of the defense industry. She, of course, is a stuffed fool, but my daughter at one time threw something similar.

[cniza]

Quote: kepmor

Wrong! An exemplary trial for aiding terrorism and a real term! To answer for your convictions too!

And also put a recruiter nearby.

[emba-5]

Take and shoot! And it will be good.

[solkhat]

What kind of fragile psyche? There must always be an investigation in such cases. Otherwise, we will never put an end to the recruiters. And the girl in love will lie, apparently she was brainwashed well. I feel sorry for the parents.

[huntsman650]

Let me go to the Himalayas, otherwise I will howl. I'll bark....

[voyaka uh]

It's not just women who are joining IS. Many times more male volunteers go.
So gender has nothing to do with it.
Islam is the most popular missionary religion in the world today. And you can't argue with that.
And converts are always more radical than those who have had religion since childhood. And terrorists
they are easily recruited.

[Vittt]

Quote: Sasha 19871987

oh fool naive ... there is war and their heads cut off, not the best place for romance ... or does she want to be a slave to the stinky bearded scumbag ???

The young lady decided to try all the “cleanliness” of the faithful warriors, Pierre Woodman approves of her!
This scum deserves no mention! "Fighter" of your cape!

[Steppe]

So she just fell in love or what? Then why a criminal case? Set the girl straight by explaining how many women each of the ISIS bandits actually raped. How many women he bought and sold on the slave market.

[atamankko]

This is ready-made Mashka and Ksyushka, and if you play with chicken, then oatmeal.

[Dikson]

From the very beginning of this story, I said: deprive her of citizenship, give her a good kick and not let her back.... If she can’t be imprisoned because of great family ties... And then such an epic was created... - you might think she was the only one who went there .. How many from the same Chechnya and Dagestan are now with ISIS? Our journalists don’t excitedly tell heartbreaking stories about anyone else, only about Varvara Karaulova.. Tell her already - let her write a book about her great love, you see, she’ll earn money for a couple of stingers for her beloved, she’ll receive the Nobel Prize on the sly.. A person will disappear! But in fact - We are at war with ISIS, which means she is a saboteur, a direct accomplice of the enemy and a traitor to the Motherland. And according to the laws of war, what do they do with saboteurs and traitors? Do they feed you porridge with semolina? Here you are smearing snot in sugar... It is indicative to solder 20 years without the right to correspondence or communicate with relatives and send uranium to dig with a child's scoop.. They found an unreasonable child...

[sharp-lad]

I slightly disagree with you, if everyone like her is sent to dig for uranium... then where will you put that amount of uranium? It is necessary to use different types of occupational therapy, for example, forest, swamp, field, and a lot of work that is not attractive enough, but necessary!

[Peresvet_613]

It was necessary to send her out of the country to the same ISIS. Why do we need such skins in Russia?

[Peresvet_613]

It was necessary to send her out of the country to the same ISIS. Why do we need such skins in Russia?

[ALEA IACTA EST]

Philosophers suck.

[Diter]

Quote: Hedgehog

Quote: sasha 19871987

oh fool naive

Here it is evidence that no matter how you study, and the law is not written for fools (Russian proverb)

Absolutely agree. According to my personal observations, education does not give the mind. If it is there, education will help develop it, but if not... In general, as the hero of one wonderful movie said: “If a person is i_d_i -o_t, then this is for a long time.”

[Straight]

This is a question for psychologists or rather psychiatrists based on the behavior of such individuals. But it is safer for society to isolate such people, since they can be used for terrorist purposes in Russia.

[aina01]

Photo of a lover of Russian Pigalians on the front page of central newspapers and TV. The next day they will find him hanged...

[sharp-lad]

Brainless student? Either there’s something wrong with your higher education, or maybe she took some kind of social science course and, out of stupidity, got everything mixed up.

[Vasily V]

Her home is a prison, because if she is released to her “lover,” she will return to the Moscow metro with a “suicide belt.” In a Russian prison it’s safer for both her and us.

[Buffalo]

There is a clear lack of propaganda of patriotism, Orthodoxy, and Russian mentality in Russian families. Russian women behave like whores, both in Western Europe, and in Turkey, and in Egypt... No one cares about them. Here are the results - Russian suicide bombers, terrorists, whores.
Compare with Muslim women, at least in Russia. They are much stricter about their chastity and marital fidelity. You won’t see a Muslim woman vacationing alone, even in Turkey. But Ukrainians, Moldovans, and Russians are not distinguished by their piety. Unfortunately, this is a fact.

[Basil50]

She’s itching and they promised to *scratch* her, that’s the whole ideology. Various euphemisms only hide the essence of the event. There is no need to sugarcoat the ugliness of the event.

[Arzoo]

Varya this, Varya that. Yes, she will be imprisoned as an agent. Where is the FSB? 5-10 years in a colony will cure a diseased brain.

[Buffalo]

The woman is fed up, in fat and prosperous Moscow... Maybe it would be worth letting her go there, so that they would let her through the Mujahideen battalion. There was one, Elena Masyuk, on NTV, she defended Chechen terrorists, regularly visited them, and broke bread. Until they raped her in unison and about... three months. They knocked her up and sent her home. - It worked!!! And her accomplice, journalist Babitsky, has since become a little wiser.

[isergil]

Put her in a room with a big screen and show her everything, make her watch: executions, cutting off heads, drownings, burnings, executions, hanging women and children. All. Without cuts and pity. And then let it be determined whose side she is on. Then everything will be clear to herself and to those around her. If understanding does not appear in her head and heart... well, then she is a complete person and there is nothing to convince her of.

[nomad74]

Do forum users know that she interned at Channel One? or in the position of assistant program director, or something like that, it was her dad who came to the rescue after she was captured in Turkey, to beat the crap out of her but not into the mare’s food! By the way, whoever found out was indignant that they couldn’t get on the first channel anyway, but here was a sub-terrorist and the first channel! Father must be ashamed!

[bylec]

to hell or to Magadan. let life see.

[Wolka]

very interesting, but SVR continues the game...

[antikilller55]

The recruiter has to twist his arms and go into the damp basement for a frank conversation, what’s the point of locking a girl in a cage, each of them, brainwashed, probably has dozens of such soul catchers.

[kizhe]

Probably her lover finally hacked into her “UNSTRENGER PSYCHE”. See how you are drawn to him. Bitch, in a word.

[Appraiser]

There are hundreds and maybe even thousands of people like Varvara Karaulova. As they say,...you are people too, but they themselves don’t know about it. In this story, I only feel sorry for the parents......

[YaMZ-238]

Such lovers should be shot!!!

[twincam]

Well, I think that this scum will not be released from Lefortovo in the near future, and after a sincere story about what and how, she will have a lot of time to think about her actions.
especially since I already tried it a second time.

[Denis Skiff]

with a fragile psyche, you need to jump more.

[propolsky]

Well, we need to send him to the north of Taimyr, where the Internet is slower and fewer souls will be lost.

[capitosha1rang]

Don’t get me wrong, but I must note - the President himself named and outlined the main threat to the country - extremism, in its most radical form - ISIS, which under no circumstances should be allowed into Russia and neighboring (buffer) countries.
Agitation, propaganda, slander, etc. - all this is from the arsenal of psychological warfare. Plus direct recruitment and acts of sabotage (the same corruption scandals of recent times), undermining faith in the Government - aren’t these crimes of state? Not about the return of Art. 58. We are talking about the Criminal Code, but there is no need to cry about the lost sheep from Moscow State University. There is only one sheep - but how much ado has the media made out of nothing - indirect advertising, of what?
By the way, in such times and with such “administrative resources”, mentioning the 58th Criminal Code may seem quite appropriate (or necessary and urgent?).

[solodova]

The fact that ISIS recruits recruits from different countries (and it doesn’t even matter what kind of government there is) is the fault of society itself. The girl did not find herself, she was not just lost, but ignored as a person. There are people with a need to do something, and it’s good when this need can be realized for good, otherwise it breaks and distorts them. And this is not just Varvara, whose story came to light precisely because dad raised a nerve, these are hundreds and thousands of such “losses” of society. Such people often become victims of various sects and scammers, and a simple recipe like “send to Kolyma, Magadan, to the uranium mines” does not exist here. This will only romanticize and give an aura of martyrdom. This is just the work of a psychologist. If everything is running. First, take a closer look at your loved ones - is everything okay with them? Or while you are here on the internet waving swords, your sister, brother or nephew or another loved one becomes the new Varya...

[chelovektapok]

There is a simple Russian name like this: b..d. The female tasted the “eggplant” and on this basis moved out (according to Freud). There were such people in saunas before. And not mainly for money, but out of love for the process. There are now. New - ISIS ideology. In principle, they work in the same place, only “ideologically”. They are used both physically and mentally. “Harmful element” (c), as L.P. Beria said. And he had such methods: either to work for the benefit of the State of the Proletariat, or to cut down the forest with your hands in the cold. He was a Great Man. He could even use it for good!

[behemot]

I don't understand the problem. Participated in ISIS - give up what the law requires. She didn’t participate, let her go on all four sides, let her go to her “beloved”. And what will happen to her there, will she get married, or will the entire ISIS herd kill her, this is purely her personal business.

[Yak28]

Under communism, there was a pioneer organization that, at the very least, tried to raise normal people from children. And now children are raised by the Internet, films, computer games. And if parents have little involvement in raising a child, then as a result, stupid characters like this girl appear. The state doesn’t care about young people That’s why there are more idiots in the country than ever before

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Saratoga833

There is no need to follow him! Otherwise we will inherit! To kill a snake, you need to tear off its head, and not "follow". The recruiter is the head of the snake!

What kind of head is this? It's an ass! The head is in a completely different place! Even in another hemisphere!!!

[mcm]

- this husk with a black hose into all the cracks until you lose consciousness and after...

[tiras85]

Such “sheep girls” will be imprisoned for a long, long time. They will teach them to love the Motherland. Close them down despite their fathers, mothers, uncles, positions! Otherwise, Mr. PEOPLE will stop trusting the authorities. And such tendencies exist... to my great regret .

[Kelwin]

By themselves, no “girls” will be able to love and respect their homeland if they have not been taught this. The caring attitude of parents and loved ones, plus social networks and unkindness, this is the result.
If they had hit me on the ears in time, there wouldn’t have been a problem.

[AKS-U]

With this “sort of fragile psyche” everything is clear.
In connection with this, is it excited? (question) - who does Moscow State University train? What a breeding ground this is. One student crashes a Ferrari, the second student maintains contact with a banned organization (not a strong psyche?).
Isn't it time to clean out these "Augean stables"?

[taseka]

The foolishness from the head of the fool Varvara will knock out the % of sewing aprons and padded jackets within 10 years as an edification to other morons!!!

[waitknait]

There are so many opinions, but it seems to me that she has simply been fooled, she is at an age when, for the sake of love, people are capable of anything. We need a psychologist.

[NACC]

Damn it, close it and that's it.

[dchegrinec]

It’s just that before, children and teenagers were busy with clubs and sections, but now everyone sits near the monitors and collects all sorts of garbage out of idleness, including dating perverts. As a result, they pack up their things and go somewhere!

[same]

Sterilize. The line must end there.

[msm]

Let's be kind... until they start hogging the house?

[nord62]

The “unstrengthened psyche” definitely needs to be TREATED! And the best place for a couple of years in the zone. There, your psyche will become stronger and your intelligence will increase, otherwise, behind your mother’s back and your father’s grub, these “exemplary” kids are going crazy!

[Johnny51]

Why so much fuss around this exalted girl?! Well, she wanted to make a s.e.k.s-voyage to ISIS - well, to hell with her! Write her a one-way ticket - and that's it!