NATO, goodbye!

Military commanders, workers in NATO, as well as those who previously worked there, and experts who have worked for a term in the State Department, declare the near demise of the North Atlantic Alliance. The Russians will "kill" NATO. Now they are testing airplanes, ships, building military bases everywhere, and this is a “great challenge” that the West has nothing to answer. The fact is that the peoples of other Western countries do not want to quarrel with the Russians, but to be friends.




NATO’s "beginning of the end" was written by Charles Hoskinson in "Washington Examiner".

Russian President Vladimir Putin has managed to make the Obama administration’s idea of ​​a “reset” of US-Russia relations become a “wedge” that, according to military experts, the Russian president drives between NATO member countries.

It's no secret that Russia, “by annexing Crimea to Ukraine in March 2014 of the year,” increased pressure on NATO, and especially on the Baltic countries (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania), which were formerly parts of the Soviet Union. The leaders of the alliance hurried to find ways to resist the new, "more aggressive position of the Kremlin" and reassure the members of the alliance regarding their security.

However, current and former officials, and with them some experts from Russia, warn that Putin’s actions are aimed at splitting the Alliance and revising international security ties. It seems that the situation is moving wherever Russia needs it.

“We are faced with one of the top strategic tasks of the post-cold war,” said retired Marine Corps General James Jones, the former commander-in-chief of the combined NATO forces in Europe. Previously, in 2009-2010, this man served as White House National Security Adviser.

“I think,” he told the publication, “that this may be the beginning of the end of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. I think this is serious. We simply cannot sit back and allow this to happen. ”

The article says that now Russia is building a whole “steel arc” - a network of bases on the “external flanks” located in the area from the Baltic to the Black Sea. Such a strategy means confrontation with NATO states, believes Admiral Mark Ferguson, commander of the US Navy in Europe and head of the NATO Allied Command in Naples.

Russian planes sharply increased their "test" flights along the borders of NATO states. Ships, too, intensively plow water.

One of the key problems of the alliance is a convincing response to the new Russian threat. Member States must increase defense spending after two decades after the end of the Cold War.

It was not for nothing that October 12, in a speech at the NATO Parliamentary Assembly in Norway, Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said that the time had come to “invest in our defense.”

According to him, the concept of deterrence, even though it seems “old-fashioned,” gives the West enough strength to “prevent others from attacking.” And this last - "not at all old-fashioned." Being strong, the West can not be afraid of war. The power of NATO is required not to unleash wars, the Secretary General believes, but to “prevent” them.

There is one more “serious threat to the stability of the alliance,” according to the article by Charles Hoskinson. This “threat” is the activity of state-owned and state-sponsored global media, which conduct propaganda campaigns aimed at promoting the Kremlin's point of view. The trouble is that NATO representatives have so far failed to find the principles of an “effective response” to Kremlin propaganda. In the meantime, the “campaign of psychological warfare” has reached NATO countries. And here are the results: a survey of the Pew research center showed that the majority of respondents in France, Germany and Italy are against the idea of ​​fighting with Russia - that is, using military force to protect another NATO country.

Such public opinion, the author believes, represents a "serious threat to the principle of collective self-defense." After all, such a principle is the "cornerstone" of the alliance.

“We have to use a much more effective strategy,” said Heather Conley, a former State Department official currently working at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

“This is a great challenge of our time, and we do not have an effective response to it,” said the expert.

Of the statements cited in the Washington Examiner article, the statements of Admiral Mark Ferguson, the commander of the US Navy in Europe and the head of the NATO Allied Command in Naples are of particular interest. What kind of "steel arc" did he mean?

It turns out that this "arc" is a combat-ready Russian navy, which is capable of challenging the NATO bloc.

“We see signs of the emergence of a more aggressive, more combat-ready Russian naval fleet"- quotes the admiral "Voice of America". A military official explained: “This is a naval capability that is directly intended to compensate for the obvious advantages of the fleets of the NATO countries. They give us to understand and warn that they intend to challenge our dominance at sea. ”

In addition, speaking at a meeting of the Atlantic Council, Ferguson said that the renewed army of the Russian Federation increased its potential compared to the times of the Cold War. She has the ability to respond: “The ability to respond has become a new element. We see that Russia's actions now fully include such elements as speed and strategic surprise. ” Finally, “the language that comes from the Russian military reflects the mindsets and actions characteristic of a direct challenge and confrontation with NATO”.

“The creation of a steel arc from the Arctic to the Mediterranean testifies to the new militarization of the Russian security policy,” Mr. Voice of America quotes Mr. Ferguson. “Starting from new bases in the Arctic and further in Leningrad in the Baltic Sea and Crimea in the Black Sea, Russia is installing advanced air defense systems, cruise missile systems and new platforms.” “It also increases the potential for power projection in the naval sphere. Their base in Syria now gives them such an opportunity in the eastern Mediterranean, ”the admiral noted.

According to him, the strategy of "blocking access to the sea" is directed against NATO naval forces.

He made a speech about the "threats" and another admiral.

The increased activity of the Russian fleet and "other threats" is a reason for reviewing NATO’s naval strategy, believes American admiral John Richardson, who recently headed the headquarters of the US Navy. Reports about it RIA News" with reference to The Wall Street Journal.

Mr. Richardson told senior naval officers in Venice that Russia had shown an increase in skills in controlling ships, and at the same time showed "a desire to resort to methods of military coercion."

“Their combat activity has grown to a level that we have not seen for more than ten years. The level of their training is growing, ”the admiral stated.

According to Richardson, NATO and the EU should strengthen coordination in order to "more effectively" use their naval forces. Without well-coordinated actions, neither the question of “containing Russia”, nor the migration issue will be solved effectively.

So, to add in conclusion, there is hope that the NATO bloc will split not the “threat to Russia”, but the will of the peoples of the Western countries who do not approve of the alliance’s confrontation policy with Russia. Neither the Germans, nor the French, nor the Italians, as the Pugh poll shows, do not want to fight with Russia, defending some kind of "other NATO country." Sooner or later, this position of voters will affect the election results: new politicians will come to power in the EU countries, ready to lend a hand to friendship to Moscow.

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  1. Finches 27 October 2015 06: 12 New
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    “Russians are coming!” - national alliance fun for alliance members! laughing
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    2. science fiction writer 27 October 2015 06: 18 New
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      Ice is cracking in Europe.
      1. Gloomy 27 October 2015 08: 16 New
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        Why are everyone afraid of Russians? We are kind. The main thing is not to anger us! wink
        1. Ded_smerch 27 October 2015 09: 26 New
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          Yes, we are good, knock out teeth with brains for good.
          1. _Vladislav_ 27 October 2015 10: 07 New
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            I think the likelihood of the collapse of NATO, in direct terms, does not depend on the will of the countries of Europe. It is enough to recall what NATO is. The block was founded on April 4, 1949 in the United States, "to protect Europe from Soviet influence." And this was preceded by the US occupation of Western Europe. And in the occupation territories a certain block arose.

            For this, the goal of NATO (and more precisely the USA) is, first of all, the occupation of the conquered, both in the Second World War and after the collapse of the USSR. Their presence is especially great in those countries that could potentially offer resistance (the number of US bases is two to three times the number of bases in the countries where they are located). P.E. if Europe today wants to leave NATO, it will be impossible physical.

            PS
            Thus, the collapse of NATO, as an international political process, is directly related to the military capabilities of the United States, or the reduction of such capabilities.
            1. Baikonur 27 October 2015 10: 53 New
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              I will add, I will strengthen: People’s elected "ruler" cannot bring power to the countries of NATO (and not only, but also in the CONTROL)! The system is designed in such a way that the ugly Saxon henchman wins the “election”, whom they have long held for that very place and are developing his political weight, investing loot into it and his campaign, populist! SLAVE!
            2. KazaK Bo 27 October 2015 13: 09 New
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              _Vladislav_
              I think the likelihood of a breakdown of NATO, into a direct one, does not depend on the will of the European countries.

              It would be very, very good ... if NATO collapsed ... but, in my opinion, it is too early to bury this military establishment ...
              What does the global hegemon need in order to maintain its dictatorship and control both the sources of strategic raw materials and the markets for their goods. The United States understands perfectly well that a nuclear war cannot be allowed ... they will be burned to ashes (like they are others, along with markets and sources of raw materials!) ... but military force is needed for just war! AND BETTER IT IS BETTER TO WAR WITH OTHER HANDS AND IN ANOTHER'S TERRITORY! And they created this power, NATO! So EUROPE, FOR THE USA, CANNON MEAT FOR SUSPENDING THE INTERESTS OF A.MEROV AT ALL POINTS OF THE WORLD! Leaving its territory without shocks and devastation ... THE USA WILL NEVER REFUSE FROM A GARMENTAL CANNON MEAT!
              And here comes the conclusion ... HOW THE EUROPEAN WOULD NOT LIKE TO RELEASE FROM NATO ... THE YANKS WILL NOT RELEASE THEM! And the desperate (from OLD EUROPE) ... fugitives from the NATO community ... WILL NOT LONG BE TORTURED IN A.MEROVSKY ... EXPERIENCED HANDS!
              1. pilot8878 27 October 2015 16: 36 New
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                Russians will “kill” NATO.

                Pleasant, of course, but doubtful. While European governments are dependent on the United States, NATO, unfortunately, will not go anywhere
              2. nemets 27 October 2015 20: 54 New
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                Member states must increase defense spending - in the context of the impending crisis, this is the main mistake that these "members" will make. and that’s exactly what we need)))
            3. Mikhail3 28 October 2015 09: 37 New
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              Quote: _Vladislav_
              P.E. if Europe today wants to leave NATO, it will be impossible physical.

              This is not entirely true. Technology is available - joint maneuvers are appointed with us. A contingent of a thousand people to fight terrorism. Well, in fact, the Pskanskie ones are beginning to pour in at the airdromes, in the Taman field with equipment ... The terribly stunned president of the liberated power leaves for negotiations at our location ... and from there a number of decrees and orders are issued. Thus, the Americans are faced with a choice - to reconcile or start Armageddets.
              They are already very sour now. All their affairs were hidden behind the "Soviet threat." And now what is the threat from Russia? The worst thing is that we want to trade mutually with Europe. And not only with Europe. Not fiercely rob, as the United States is now, and trade, giving everyone to earn. What could be worse?
          2. 222222 27 October 2015 11: 18 New
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            Ded_smerch SU Today, 09:26 ↑
            Yes, we are good, knock out teeth with brains for good.
        2. Orionvit 29 October 2015 13: 53 New
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          But Russians are afraid because the layman in the west has never heard a good word about Russians in his whole life. Since childhood, on television, on the radio, in newspapers, in textbooks, it is customary to pour mud on Russians. At first they go with wars, then they rake them off from the Russians, and so they rage. No, in order to objectively analyze the situation, it is easier to appoint an enemy. Moreover, in the presence of an “enemy” it is easier to control brainwashed. An example in Ukraine. A huge number of people began to sincerely hate Russia and Russians in particular. Although very many were born and raised back in the USSR, I am generally silent about young people. And before they seemed to be normal, prudent people, that's how brains are washed.
        3. Klos 29 October 2015 14: 31 New
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          Because our good is with fists. With fingers of uranium. wink
        4. silver_roman 29 October 2015 17: 34 New
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          Quote: Gloomy
          Why are everyone afraid of Russians?

          nobody is afraid of us. all this is a bluff. you always need the image of the enemy to peacefully bomb unwanted countries on a far-fetched pretext.
          And here are its results: a survey of the Pew research center showed that the majority of respondents in France, Germany and Italy are against the idea of ​​fighting with Russia - that is, the use of military force to defend another NATO country.

          bloody Russians brainwashed the progressive part of the population of Europe and now this part does not want to attack the bloody Russians THIRD TIME (!!!). The cunning and treacherous Putin has built military bases on his territory and is threatening the security of NATO, which has almost reached the borders of the Russian Federation. am
          God, do not let someone like me to take the chair of the President of the Russian Federation, otherwise the entire nuclear arsenal would be discharged by these goats! Already just sick of their rot !!! If it were my will, I would take the Russian Federation, I would file it along the borders with a jigsaw, stick powerful engines around the edge and dump it from this planet! and to hell with all this ... let yourself in your wassat boil it!
      2. Yars 27 October 2015 11: 24 New
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        Ice is cracking in Europe.


        and the reason is that their external debt is simply not real, Europe has more than 8 trillion. Euro and the United States about 18 trillion. dollars so they are cracking at the seams .....
    3. Enot-poloskun 27 October 2015 07: 06 New
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      it's time to “invest in our defense


      Gentlemen, do your contributions! Secrecy of deposits guaranteed!

      Interestingly, 200 billion cu save European democracy?)))
      1. ZU-23 27 October 2015 07: 25 New
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        Mattresses with the help of NATO divorced the whole of Europe, embroiled it in all serious with all the consequences, and they themselves are reaping the benefits of money, we hope that this worldwide divorce will come to an end.
        1. SRC P-15 27 October 2015 08: 47 New
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          Russian President Vladimir Putin has managed to make sure that the Obama administration’s idea of ​​“resetting” US-Russian relations turned into a "wedge", which, according to military experts, the Russian president drives between NATO member countries.

          We Russians have a saying: "Wedge out a wedge!" - In this case, she is in action!
        2. andj61 27 October 2015 09: 54 New
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          Quote: ZU-23
          Mattresses with the help of NATO divorced the whole of Europe, embroiled it in all serious with all the consequences, and they themselves are reaping the benefits of money, we hope that this worldwide divorce will come to an end.

          good And now, NATO, bye? crying
          Yes, crap - NATO is now more alive than all living things, and will exist in the future. The new budget is being knocked out, the elections in the states again - that’s the old scarecrow of the Soviet-Russian threat. Money - it doesn’t smell even if it’s taken out of shit.
          1. whiteeagle 27 October 2015 10: 38 New
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            America 75% of the total potential of NATO. The Germans, French, Italians compared to America is a pug. Even together they have fewer tanks than Poland. The population — more and more senior citizens — the pulse of more and more Muslim immigrants — This society is not able to act as a member of NATO. They simply do not have the strength to contain Russia. On the other hand, they do not have the power to deter the United States. America will have a stronger influence in Europe thanks to an alliance with countries on NATO’s eastern flank and also with Britain, the Scandinavians.
            1. your1970 27 October 2015 18: 41 New
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              “The population — more and more pensioners — the pulse of more and more Muslim immigrants — This society is not able to act as a member of NATO” - theoretically, through 10 all military personnel in Europe will be black, especially in Germany
              ZY Hitler in 1945 committed suicide - my imagination is not enough to imagine what he would do with himself - if his army consisted of blacks and Arabs (50 / 50).
              Z.Z.Z. At least WWII would definitely not exist in principle ......
              Well, there was no access to Facebook in the USSR at all ....
          2. Apsit 27 October 2015 11: 08 New
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            Quote: andj61
            So they get the old scarecrow of the Soviet-Russian threat.

            And to whom we threaten, we are building a line of defense in our territory
            Now Russia is building a whole "steel arc" - a network of bases on the "outer flanks" located in the region from the Baltic to the Black Sea. Such a strategy has in mind the confrontation with NATO states, believes Admiral Mark Ferguson,
            or did they believe there that Russia would stand, pick its nose and watch with fear how NATO rolls to its borders?
        3. Nikolay K 27 October 2015 09: 59 New
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          Big, but believe in fairy tales
        4. 222222 27 October 2015 11: 19 New
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          ZU-23 (1) RU Today, 07:25 ↑
          Mattresses with the help of NATO lit the whole of Europe,
        5. SibSlavRus 27 October 2015 14: 39 New
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          "... Starting from new bases in the Arctic and on to Leningrad... "

          However, the fear of Soviet toponyms driven into the subcortex of NATO warriors is very tenacious, if they still remember. The image of the enemy is the same, regardless of the socio-political system - RUSSIAN! This is the only people who can (if they really want or bring our universal patience) to drive the countries of NATO and the USA and the Anglo-Saxon civilization into the Middle Ages, just starting to restore justice.
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      3. nemets 27 October 2015 20: 57 New
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        once a German said an alliance with Russia would allow us to control all of Europe and keep England in the backyards, but no one listened to it, except for the British (((
    4. vyinemeynen 27 October 2015 09: 27 New
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      Sooner or later, this position of voters will affect the election results: new politicians will come to power in the EU countries, ready to lend a hand to friendship to Moscow.
      I would not want this to happen late
    5. marlin1203 27 October 2015 09: 52 New
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      500 million people in Europe, and even in the United States - 300. Their total military budget is several times larger than our state. What are they afraid of us? So it turns out that they are not afraid, but legitimize the image of the enemy for their population, in order to later justify their own aggression - "well, this is Russia, it threatened us, threatened us and now we have to ..." so we must be on the alert with these " comrades "soldier
    6. Will 27 October 2015 12: 27 New
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      Only a "robot" or a madman can rejoice in slavery. The Russians, by their existence, give a “clue”, where there is still more freedom in a world dependent on nature. She is in a relationship.
    7. Imperialkolorad 27 October 2015 13: 11 New
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      Quote: Finches
      “Russians are coming!” - national alliance fun for alliance members!

      Not the Europeans have other fun. Namely, every 100 years, to get together all and get lule in Russia.
    8. Skif83 28 October 2015 15: 48 New
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      Being strong, the West may not be afraid of war. NATO’s power is required not to start wars, the Secretary General believes, but to “prevent” them.

      Those. our "national oblivion is not to their liking, but their own is very personal ...
    9. DEfindER 28 October 2015 16: 23 New
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      I also liked the phrase - it's time to "invest in our defense." It smacks of a banal divorce of suckers on the headstock :)
    10. Orionvit 29 October 2015 14: 02 New
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      “Russians are coming” is a folk fun not only of the alliance, but also of many post-Soviet so-called “countries.” With the submission and payment of the West, it is very fashionable for the “partners” to be Russophobe. Well, understandably in Europe, they were never friends. But these the newly-minted so-called "democracies" think that they are in a trend, not understanding what bitter tears they will wash.
    11. vodolaz 30 October 2015 01: 09 New
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      So all that scumbag that they got into NATO entered into it only in order not to invest money in their army, they say they will support the allies, and we will be yapping for it for Russia. Even aircraft do not trust the same Baltic states.
  2. ivan48857 27 October 2015 06: 13 New
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    Russia is one of the most peace-loving countries! You don’t touch us and you won’t be anything for it.
    1. vlad.svargin 27 October 2015 07: 23 New
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      ivan48857
      Russia is one of the most peace-loving countries! You don’t touch us and you won’t be anything for it.

      If in the end it comes to their consciousness, then the great tragedy of the United States will result in the inevitable collapse and collapse of NATO, and after it the collapse of North America itself. Hurry to get it!
    2. viktorrymar 27 October 2015 07: 29 New
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      So, to add in conclusion, there is hope that the NATO bloc will split not the “threat to Russia”, but the will of the peoples of the Western countries who do not approve of the alliance’s confrontation policy with Russia. Neither the Germans, nor the French, nor the Italians, as the Pugh poll shows, do not want to fight with Russia, defending some kind of "other NATO country." Sooner or later, this position of voters will affect the election results: new politicians will come to power in the EU countries, ready to lend a hand to friendship to Moscow.



      Great resume !!!
    3. RU-Officer 27 October 2015 07: 58 New
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      Holy naivety! stop Do you think that if the 21 century has come, then on Earth everyone has become morally enlightened? fool Here you are, dear "ivan48857", write:
      Russia is one of the most peace-loving countries!

      Personally, I agree with you on all 200%. yes And try to prove it immediately to the whole world! negative Maybe sometime in the future ... what
      For the sake of jokes, an example from the environment. Imagine - we are sitting quietly and posing as such a quiet and slightly sickly well, for example - a rabbit. belay Anyone running past a predator will simply consider with his bestial duty to estimate a frail-looking rabbit on its rightful tooth. And here the Darwin installations end repeat How does an honest carnivore know that the snack has a full set of teeth, claws, 7 is given in aikido and the bit is hidden behind a birch? After all, do not touch anyone? soldier But they will climb anyway. hi
      1. Gloomy 27 October 2015 08: 24 New
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        Yeah, guess what kind of setup laughing And perefigyachit rabbit all in the forest)
      2. Consul-t 27 October 2015 08: 28 New
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        I liked about a complete set of teeth, claws, aikido and a bit for a birch.
        Thank you for having fun. laughing
        In general, a point to the point!
      3. desant_doktor 27 October 2015 09: 16 New
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        So, continuing the thought. As long as there isn’t enough of a star from a rabbit, they will try, as the previous comrade said, to "figure out a tooth." Alas, it will not come to predators otherwise. Although .... At heart, the thought lurks that after this it will not reach everyone ...
    4. 222222 27 October 2015 11: 21 New
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      ivan48857 SU Today, 06:13
      Russia is one of the most peace-loving countries! You don’t touch us and you won’t be anything for it.
      1. Ribald 27 October 2015 12: 14 New
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        And whoever doubts our peacefulness, will wash himself with his own blood.
  3. Zomanus 27 October 2015 06: 20 New
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    The withdrawal of bases from Europe will be the collapse of America.
    For in this way she immediately loses control of Europe.
    So all this is no more than dreams and notions.
    In addition, Europe for America is a bastion against Russia.
    America will primarily sacrifice Europe in the war against Russia.
    1. inkass_98 27 October 2015 06: 52 New
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      Rumors of NATO's death are greatly exaggerated. But, even if this happens, I guarantee a Churovsky percentage of probability that a new alliance will immediately emerge, and even more paranoid, since the first fiddle there will be played by underexposed people with unfulfilled ambitions - Poland, and Romania and the Baltic states will sing along. And God forbid they really find German gold in Silesia. With solid financial capabilities, a dwarf turned on his own greatness can do a lot, Pilsudsky in a coffin will more than once turn over from envy.
      1. VseDoFeNi 27 October 2015 07: 40 New
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        With solid financial capabilities, a dwarf turned on his own greatness can do a lot

        They don’t have money !! What are the financial opportunities ??? Aw, uncle. The West is mired in debt and tolerance, leaving due to the great inertia of the system.
        1. Poppy 27 October 2015 09: 36 New
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          they have now all the money will go to feed the migrants who have nestled with them
    2. hydrox 27 October 2015 06: 58 New
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      The American bases of Russia are not terrible, something else is worse: these Amer’s bases are the cement that gives the appearance of NATO power and readiness to repel any aggression, including and Russian.
      In fact, there is nothing of this, neither aggression, nor cohesion, nor determination to repel the threat - Europe has become angry, sour, and due to the lack of German revenge, it has lost the spirit of aggression, changing it to pragmatism, which supposedly contains great forces for a small bribe.
      This is a phantom: the power is really great, but who needs power without will, without purpose, without the desire to win, and without justification for its existence? Great power requires the commanders of the Great Military Leader, who knows the taste and sense of the leadership of the Force, knows the content of this force and cheers for it with his soul, for the development of the replenishment of the Force and its maintenance.
      There is none of this: everything is fragmented and has no commanders, turns into trash and can’t conduct network-centric operations and doesn’t even have precision weapons - this is what NATO is today, the worst thing is that the inhabitants of all countries gathered under a NATO umbrella DO NOT BELIEVE in the fact that NATO, even with the assistance of the United States, is not able to withstand any challenges today, even network-centric, even chaotic and partisan.
      EVERYTHING Europe was blown away ...
      1. Gloomy 27 October 2015 08: 22 New
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        I agree. Well said.
      2. xBoris 27 October 2015 11: 36 New
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        ..can this be all so. It’s only that Russia acts as a firefighter, filling in those hot spots that are successfully fueling the States. So, we do not preempt the situation, but follow the direction that the States choose for us.
        In my opinion, the main sadness is that we have too much, depends on oil too much. We cannot get rid of our raw material role. Otherwise - why the ruble is jumping like that. What pleases you ..? Now, if the stability of the economic level was like in the States, we could only rejoice. In the meantime .. it doesn’t work out.
  4. vitya1945 27 October 2015 06: 23 New
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    ,, NATO’s power is not required to start wars "........
    The dog is a racket, not a secretary general.
  5. strelets 27 October 2015 06: 28 New
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    It was necessary to dissolve NATO immediately after the Warsaw Pact - they would save a lot of money and save many lives. But megalomania is a stubborn thing.
  6. mamont5 27 October 2015 06: 28 New
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    Collapse of the United States-Runet and NATO. Or vice versa...
    1. kolyhalovs 27 October 2015 10: 22 New
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      The only way. As long as the US hegemony does not have any will of any people there, it’s ridiculous to say, no threat, nothing will move NATO. How can the US lose hegemony? I have no idea.
  7. Alexander 3 27 October 2015 06: 29 New
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    With a good and strong neighbor such as Russia it is better to be friends and not to conflict. This is both about politics and the economy, these are all conditions for a peaceful life.
  8. Jarilo 27 October 2015 06: 29 New
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    Sooner or later, this position of voters will affect the election results: new politicians will come to power in the EU countries, ready to lend a hand to friendship to Moscow.

    Better, of course, if sooner than later. We are peaceful people, but our armored train stands on a siding.
  9. Nick888 27 October 2015 06: 31 New
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    It was not for nothing that October 12, in a speech at the NATO Parliamentary Assembly in Norway, Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said that the time had come to “invest in our defense.”

    Keyword - it's time to "invest in our defense"
  10. Walking 27 October 2015 06: 32 New
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    So, even during our lifetime, I want to say goodbye to NATO and drink for its demise.
  11. Wolka 27 October 2015 06: 34 New
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    strange, but the article does not say a word about creating a single military coordination center within the EU, namely, the European military bloc within the EU, but without the Yankees, and this is precisely what the Yankees are trying to prevent more and more actively moving their missile defense system ...
    1. hydrox 27 October 2015 07: 14 New
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      Quote: Volka
      namely the European military bloc within the EU, but without the Yankees,


      And why should they do this if there is a NATO Charter with which they are tied hand and foot, arguing: "Why know the geography if the driver (USA) knows where to go?"
  12. Armored optimist 27 October 2015 06: 34 New
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    Do not forget that the FSA peace treaty with Germany has not yet been signed. They can use this to cling to old Europe.
  13. Tra-ta-ta 27 October 2015 06: 40 New
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    it's time to invest in our defense ..
    This explains all the nonsense about the RF threat ..!
  14. Myth 27 October 2015 06: 45 New
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    At the expense of Russia and on the wreckage of Russia, they hoped to build and maintain not only their military bases around the world, destroying and terrorizing the unacceptable, but also in fact containing the armies of their “lapdogs”, who cannot, and often stupidly do not want to spend the latter pennies for the power of not beloved, but still the owner. I said, It was necessary to finish us off in the 90s, now prepare Vaseline.
    1. the villain 27 October 2015 23: 16 New
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      . I said, It was necessary to finish us off in the 90s, now prepare Vaseline.

      They did not deserve a vesel, they did not deserve am
  15. PlotnikoffDD 27 October 2015 06: 45 New
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    increased pressure on NATO, and especially on the Baltic countries (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania)

    Either these pseudo-countries are so strong that they successfully resist “pressure”, or there is no pressure.
  16. Nitarius 27 October 2015 06: 46 New
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    NATO was not called there .. it was NECESSARY AND ONE MUST MONEY!
  17. Indifferent 27 October 2015 06: 46 New
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    I don’t understand how it is possible to draw strategic conclusions and write a huge article on the statements of two near-witted admirals?
    The author probably has a lot of time and he decided to take us with his pearl, "conjuring" over his finger.
    Among serious politicians in NATO, there is not even a hint of weakening "collective will."
  18. iliitchitch 27 October 2015 06: 52 New
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    Quote: ivan48857
    Russia is one of the most peace-loving countries! You don’t touch us and you won’t be anything for it.


    So that is the main world military contradiction - these radishes sit and baton planes (jobs!), We plan too. This needs more (unemployment, however!), Etc. Well, in the end - two men gathered to fight; one has 2 clubs, the other has 12 (jobs worked, salary received!). Whose victory will be? To dig these woodpeckers - two with STOCK is enough, and ten - in jobs.
    (Short Course of the World Economy)
  19. Senior manager 27 October 2015 06: 52 New
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    Nobody will collapse and fall apart in the foreseeable future, unless the shadowy authorities break the roof and decide to heal the world by war, or the authorities have a real chance to survive after a nuclear conflict.
  20. starshina pv 27 October 2015 06: 54 New
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    we are on our side of the globe do not touch anyone, and you do not climb to us !!!
  21. Tatar 174 27 October 2015 06: 56 New
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    So it's time to say "NATO, goodbye!" you must first say, "USA, rest in peace!" well, or tear Europe from the influence of the United States.
  22. tommy717 27 October 2015 06: 58 New
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    "Starting from new bases in the Arctic and on to Leningrad in the Baltic Sea and Crimea in the Black Sea, Russia is installing advanced air defense systems, cruise missile systems and new platforms. ”
    Here is the brake. Where are the Russians to keep up with if their experts have not yet “caught up” that Leningrad has long been renamed St. Petersburg.
    1. Egoza 27 October 2015 07: 15 New
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      Quote: tommy717
      Starting with new bases in the Arctic and further in Leningrad in the Baltic Sea and Crimea in the Black Sea, Russia is installing advanced air defense systems, cruise missile systems and new platforms. ”

      What do you want? Watch it! famous Russian painting "Do not wait!"
    2. Gloomy 27 October 2015 08: 27 New
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      Quote: tommy717
      "Starting from new bases in the Arctic and on to Leningrad in the Baltic Sea and Crimea in the Black Sea, Russia is installing advanced air defense systems, cruise missile systems and new platforms. ”
      Here is the brake. Where are the Russians to keep up with if their experts have not yet “caught up” that Leningrad has long been renamed St. Petersburg.


      How is St. Petersburg? what When did you manage? laughing
    3. Wasiliy1985 27 October 2015 20: 43 New
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      All the same: Leningrad ?! Why not St. Petersburg?
      All the same, “Leningrad” remained a symbol of resilience?
      Which "popularly" is still called "Peter" ..

      Yes, do not care about breaking the pattern of the western "balabona".
      Most importantly, we know which city we are talking about !!
  23. Rav075 27 October 2015 06: 59 New
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    Threats, threats !!! When do you break up ???
  24. Reptiloid 27 October 2015 07: 00 New
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    It seems to me that false nagging to increase further expenses.
  25. slizhov 27 October 2015 07: 01 New
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    NATO has exhausted itself.
    The US needs to think about how to protect itself from external threats, which Russia is also doing. One must not be smart to consider that in a dream Russia sees itself as the mistress of the Planet. Everything created is a response to the claims of the Cherchels, Thatchers and everyone else in their desires to divide our country into parts and increase the group of vassals ...
  26. dog1965 27 October 2015 07: 03 New
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    In the 17th century, a notch line was built. In the 30s they built the "Stalin line". Now they have created the Steel Arc. A story to teach the gentlemen from Washington. Europe still remembers how the threat to the USSR in the last century ended, and with this military, at least a count on the head of a Czech. They won’t play enough “in the soldiers”. They think that war will be something like the movement of dots on a monitor screen. Aw! 21st century outside the window! To sit back in a puddle, as was the case in the previous two wars, will not work. Would include brains, or something. If they have them of course.
  27. maikl50jrij 27 October 2015 07: 19 New
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    All right. And the Russian Navy has always been famous for its fearlessness, ability, and dedication. And not only in hostilities, but also in civilian life. When the Italians were saved from the eruption, the Greeks from looting ... Europe has something to remember about Russian sailors! What can the world remember about NATO troops ??? One devastation and humiliation of the population ... Such "vast" alliances are doomed to a short, controversial life. The internal conflict between the "dominants" and the "students" will ruin it.
  28. parusnik 27 October 2015 07: 21 New
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    What can I answer the words of the "partners" about strengthening Russia .. Russia is not strengthening, Russia is focusing ..
  29. Born in USSR 27 October 2015 07: 26 New
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    In my opinion, all this fuss will end when they specifically get us. And the code on the wall of the pentagon will be an inscription. THE ruins OF OU PARDON. HERE WAS Vanya.
  30. 4Bas 27 October 2015 07: 31 New
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    At present, there are no serious prerequisites for the collapse of the North Atlantic Alliance. So this military-political formation will exist for a long time.
  31. Windy 27 October 2015 07: 33 New
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    The kids were sitting in the sandbox and pecking at the smallest little ones: Libya, Yugoslavia, Iraq ... But then Vovochka came into the sandbox and ruined everything. belay Fright, perplexity and resentment on the faces of children ...
  32. anip 27 October 2015 07: 33 New
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    Is it too early to rejoice? Before the collapse of NATO, much more water will flow.
  33. Santa Claus 27 October 2015 07: 35 New
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    All this is custom. They simply knock out the budget for their new villas .. Always when the admirals of the United States begin to write such articles, it means that someone in Congress decided to limit military spending ..
    1. Wasiliy1985 27 October 2015 21: 00 New
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      Wo, tochnyak !! One annoying thing: when they really have “seams” with money, they reduce the world's population by several hundred thousand souls. Purely for the sake of adding to your "own" budget ..
      And they are not interested in their "human rights", "the rights of national ..... religious .......... sexual ........ minorities."
      He is interested in his own wallet - for "power is in money" (c).
      "So the brother thinks that money is power .. And I believe that power is in truth !!" (c) Sergey Bodrov.
  34. Arkan 27 October 2015 07: 44 New
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    The NATO will not fall apart soon, but the fact that the alliance has become really afraid of us is good. NATO is a clumsy monster, we in Russia need to use this circumstance, be swift, mobile, courageous in making decisions and putting them into practice.
  35. cniza 27 October 2015 08: 02 New
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    Quote: inkass_98
    Rumors of NATO's death are greatly exaggerated.



    Everything is done to increase funding, the United States wants to milk the whole "trembling" Europe.
  36. morpogr 27 October 2015 08: 05 New
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    It is evident that the crisis affected the NATO command and that’s why we are shouting, the Russians go give more money and you Europeans need money so that we protect you from what we invented.
  37. cniza 27 October 2015 08: 08 New
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    “We don’t need someone else’s land, but we won’t give it back” ... don’t touch us and you will be happy.
  38. question 27 October 2015 08: 08 New
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    With something to fall apart? Yes, they are now even closer from fear will cuddle with each other! And they will allocate money to those who need it! And they’ll fall apart, it’s worse for us, by the side of which some creatures just won't start!
  39. Tanker55 27 October 2015 08: 09 New
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    The article is interesting, but again, these are worse than ours, it seems that money is NECESSARY for NATO. PEACE LABOR MAY!!! Join the member countries and you will be happy.
  40. Neophyte 27 October 2015 08: 47 New
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    And most importantly, chase money on defense? The US military-industrial complex is already drooling with a presentiment of profit!
  41. ermolai 27 October 2015 09: 05 New
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    Quote: Gloomy
    We are kind. The main thing is not to anger us!

    and you go down to the taiga, there, who knows honey too, is kind, but it’s better not to anger him, but they’re afraid because they are obviously weak, they live by lies, and we, the truth, remember the school, all nerds, petty, lie, twist, dirty tricks about their complexes , and they can’t be trusted, they are traitors in life, and even more serious, the world of Tartary’s Russ was from Kamchatka including Europe, (see the map in the British Encyclopedia), but gradually the grays changed consciousness year after year, planted a different faith, falsified history, destroyed facts, annals, etc. (see events on the edge today) and quiet glanders moved to today's borders, and a spider nest sits in Buckingham Palace,
  42. Wise Kaa 27 October 2015 09: 07 New
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    Of course, we do not need war; we are a peace-loving people. BUT! Enough to fight on our territory already, you have to beat adversary in his lair from ALL guns: worldview, religious, economic and, last but not least, from the military !!!
    They are trying to quarrel with someone all the time!
    Enough! You need to take the initiative into your own hands, first quarrel Europe with Asashai, then the whole Middle East and Latin America, then they will come to a head! They will remember everything and stolen gold, resources, and even their torn jeans with soda ...
  43. nikolaev 27 October 2015 09: 23 New
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    it is necessary to constantly raise the issue of a tribunal for events in Iraq, Libya, Yemen, .... Until the main culprits are punished, humanity will not be able to get out of inferno. In the fight against evil, it is important to find and destroy the source, otherwise evil will destroy humanity.
  44. _GSVG_ 27 October 2015 09: 24 New
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    So, to add in conclusion, there is hope that the NATO bloc will split not the “threat to Russia”, but the will of the peoples of the Western countries who do not approve of the alliance’s confrontation policy with Russia. Neither the Germans, nor the French, nor the Italians, as the Pugh poll shows, do not want to fight with Russia, defending some kind of "other NATO country." Sooner or later, this position of voters will affect the election results: new politicians will come to power in the EU countries, ready to lend a hand to friendship to Moscow.


    The Yankees will not allow this, and everything is ready to prevent collapse.
    On the one hand - Europe, which has lost any spiritual and moral values, “dovecote” in half with pedophilia, violent juvenile justice (children who have nothing to do with their adoptive parents), universal tolerance. (They say that tolerance is a medical term that shows the body’s inability to resist the penetration of foreign bodies. And they add that full tolerance is death. This technique is usually used in disputes between proponents of traditional values ​​and innovators in a particular field, but more often in the field of morals. and public peace. But the debaters are not right in everything. Yes, the term tolerance has not only sociological, but primarily medical significance. This concept denotes a decrease in resistance to ganism, weakening of the body’s immunological response to the introduction of foreign genes into it. The word "tolerance" is a medical term, first introduced by the English immunologist P. Medawar in 1952 year. The concept denoted the degree of susceptibility of the human body to transplanted organs, the adoption of foreign transplants.)
    As we see "innovators in one area or another" are already in full swing in Europe, all kinds of government officials and politicians are already flaunting their "innovation."
    And now on the other hand - for about a million souls of refugees from North Africa, mostly Muslims, with their own values, and in the complete absence of any kind of tolerance. I think everyone saw in the television news, such peppy male refugees were quite vigorous, from 15 to 40 mainly. And what is characteristic is that they are already in distress in Europe, and they well know who bombed their homes a year ago, and 2 years ago and 10 years ago.
    It remains only to throw a torch into this powder keg and remind refugees that it was from Europe that hordes of Christian crusaders came from dozens of times and killed their ancestors in their own homes. And it’s time to get paid already. Well, Europeans in their geyrop, they are not Jews in Israel, they will be shocked by actions similar to what is happening in Israel, like - an Arab ran in and scratched the Jews with a knife, then a police officer shot him. Then the good smugglers tossed “Kalash” to the refugees, and off it went. (By the way, winter is on the nose, smash the gas pipeline in Europe, the natives are out of control with such happiness). And what is the European army and police, against those who simply have nowhere to retreat? And so the mattress cavalry arrived, of course, at the request of the EU, all Jydai aliens were shredded from machine guns and cruise missiles (to save time, right to the refugee camps, where only those who had no “Kalash” and their families remained) and after what at that time, without bringing the normal order, the Jdai would introduce direct rule into the EU both during the defeat of Germany, with the only difference being that their "innovators" recruited throughout the USA are now resettled in forts throughout Europe.
    Until the Aborigines again have an ardent desire to remain in NATO.
  45. a-cola 27 October 2015 09: 30 New
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    I suggest. First, wait until at least one country leaves NATO, and then we will write articles about its imminent collapse. In the meantime, work for everyone!
  46. becks 27 October 2015 09: 39 New
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    All to that !!!! NATO !!!! will be on paper, but together to fight !!!! For someone, only in BRUSELS and language !!! fellow
  47. sledge 27 October 2015 09: 58 New
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    To paraphrase the words of the famous song - "Goodbye to NATO, goodbye to NATO ......"
  48. 33 Watcher 27 October 2015 10: 48 New
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    Well, I once wrote here that the NATO created for the war with us will never fight with us. Accordingly, there is no sense in its existence ... But! This is not the end. NATO is evolving from a military alliance into a political and economic one, which is most likely.
  49. sw247 27 October 2015 10: 50 New
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    A very serious ideological thesis from Russia: "We want to be friends, not to fight." This is the position to which they respond. NATO's only chance is to convince its “democracies" that the Russians want war. And the Russians, in plain text, say the opposite.
  50. Kibl 27 October 2015 10: 59 New
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    What is already starting, the anuresis progressing however !!!