Washington opposes Seoul's plans to sell T-50 Golden Eagle combat training aircraft to Tashkent

The US authorities opposed the plans of the South Korean government to sell a batch of jointly developed T-50 Golden Eagle combat training aircraft worth 400 million dollars to the Uzbek Air Force because of fears of transferring technology to Russia.




“Uzbekistan has close relations with Russia, and the United States fears that the export of T-50 to Uzbekistan may lead to the transfer of technology to Russia. The South Korean KAI developer negotiated with the Uzbek government on exports (airplanes), but the US government is against this deal, ”quotes the military source of the Korea Times newspaper RIA "News".

It is noted that Uzbekistan planned to purchase a batch of X-NUMX T-12 aircraft from South Korea. During the talks on bilateral cooperation, which took place in April, the head of the Ministry of Defense of Uzbekistan piloted the FA-50 simulator - the light version of the T-50, already exported by South Korea.

The Ministry of Defense of South Korea noted that despite the position of Washington, contact with Uzbekistan on T-50 will be maintained. In addition, efforts will be made for the US authorities to agree to an export deal.
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  1. Andrea 26 October 2015 08: 02 New
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    Yes, and to hell with your technology. We will sell the Yaks to the Uzbeks! good
    1. vovanpain 26 October 2015 08: 05 New
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      Yes, the mattress will soon resemble the territory of 404 by the stupidity of the statements made.
      1. Kostyar 26 October 2015 08: 18 New
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        The US authorities opposed the plans of the South Korean government to sell a batch of jointly developed T-50 Golden Eagle combat training aircraft worth 400 million dollars to the Uzbek Air Force because of fears of transferring technology to Russia.


        To convey what ... ??? What nafig tehnologii, Americans and dill fascist, brothers forever, the same disabled heads !!!
        1. volot-voin 26 October 2015 08: 26 New
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          Quote: Bone
          To transfer what ... ??? What nafig tehnologii, Americans and dill fascist, brothers forever, the same disabled heads !!!

          Correct mattress covers do. Don’t finance Korea. Let them buy the Russian aviation industry))))
        2. meriem1 26 October 2015 08: 31 New
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          Quote: Bone
          The US authorities opposed the plans of the South Korean government to sell a batch of jointly developed T-50 Golden Eagle combat training aircraft worth 400 million dollars to the Uzbek Air Force because of fears of transferring technology to Russia.


          To convey what ... ??? What nafig tehnologii, Americans and dill fascist, brothers forever, the same disabled heads !!!

          Took off the tongue !!! Weapons military aircraft Even the blades of titanium do not know how to make the Yankees. But self-indulgence must be ....
        3. Voha_krim 26 October 2015 08: 58 New
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          Quote: Bone
          To convey what ... ??? What nafig tehnologii, Americans and dill fascist, brothers forever, the same disabled heads !!!

          They are afraid that having received their “technology” in Russia, the Russians will laugh out loud!
          1. Talgat 26 October 2015 18: 22 New
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            I read when the USSR received the F-5 Tiger sample - we learned a lot - after all, amers have good technologies

            There is nothing wrong with getting enemy know-how. or from Iran their drones, or at one time from Vietnam shot down Amer’s planes, at one time we received a model of a flying fortress after the war and made our first strategic bomber

            Why not take advantage of the "border status" of Uzbekistan and get some know-how. Moreover, neither KZ nor Belarus are suitable for a long time, too obvious allies of the Russian Federation
    2. Dmitry Toderes 26 October 2015 08: 09 New
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      plans of the South Korean government to sell a batch of jointly developed combat aircraft T-50 Golden Eagle


      Joint development mean? Interestingly, what is the role of Uzbekistan in this "joint" development? The fact that Koreans have super-technologies is already understandable, but is there Uzbekistan that has its own?
      1. Mera joota 26 October 2015 08: 25 New
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        Quote: Dmitry Toderese
        Joint development mean? Interestingly, what is the role of Uzbekistan in this "joint" development?

        You misunderstood. UBS T-50 Golden Eagle was created by Korea Aerospace Industries together with Lockheed Martin. Therefore, the sale of the T-50 Golden Eagle may only be carried out with the consent of Lockheed Martin. This is normal world practice.
      2. bumbarash 26 October 2015 08: 26 New
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        US Joint Development - Korea
        1. kayman4 26 October 2015 08: 28 New
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          it’s just that Lockheed toad is stuck that the Uzbeks decided to bypass the American corruption schemes of kickbacks from Korea :)
    3. Zoldat_A 26 October 2015 08: 34 New
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      Quote: Andrea
      Yes, and to hell with your technology. We will sell the Yaks to the Uzbeks!

      And what is there in these T-50 Golden Eagle that there are none in our aircraft, the same YAKs? And what we do not know without them. This is so from harm. Yes, and from the redneck that they do not buy American planes. And the Uzbeks are also good - why didn’t they understand yet how to be friends with America and its sixes?
      1. Hey
        Hey 26 October 2015 11: 12 New
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        Any technique is of interest. There may be some kind of original solution to a seemingly simple question. A block of some sort. Clasp, material, duct, electronics, etc. etc.
        For those who make planes, everything is interesting, although for an uninitiated person everything is the same.
        Fears of amers really justified. The confrontation between the two systems has not yet been canceled, and industrial espionage as well.
  2. kote119 26 October 2015 08: 03 New
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    the plane is nice, interesting and why didn’t we want our Yak-130?
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    2. Mera joota 26 October 2015 08: 26 New
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      Quote: kote119
      the plane is nice, interesting and why didn’t we want our Yak-130?

      Because the T-50 Golden Eagle is a combat training aircraft, while the Yak-130 is a training aircraft.
      1. amirbek 26 October 2015 08: 36 New
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        froze your aircraft factory ... now we buy all sorts of crap
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        2. Mera joota 26 October 2015 09: 42 New
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          Quote: Amirbek
          froze your aircraft factory ... now we buy all sorts of crap

          Did you do IL-76 at TAPOiCH, nothing close to UBS / UTS, or do you naively think that if you made transport aircraft, then any can do it?
          1. Apsit 26 October 2015 13: 17 New
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            Quote: Mera Joota
            They made IL-76 at TAPOiCh,

            Today they cannot do that. Bury everything, stolen back in the 90s. And most importantly, there are no competent professionals.
      2. rpek32 26 October 2015 08: 49 New
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        Quote: Mera Joota
        Because the T-50 Golden Eagle is a combat training aircraft, while the Yak-130 is a training aircraft.

        Yak-130 (NATO codification: Mitten - “The Mitt”) - Russian combat training aircraft, light attack aircraft wink
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        2. Mera joota 26 October 2015 09: 48 New
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          Quote: rpek32
          Yak-130 (NATO codification: Mitten - “The Mitt”) - Russian combat training aircraft, light attack aircraft

          Easy attack aircraft? Yak-52 can also be called a "light attack aircraft" ...
          The use of the Yak-130 as a "light attack aircraft" is deadly for the pilot who imagines himself to be ... The use of guided TSA on the Yak-130 is impossible (except for the R-73, but this is an airborne missile), there are no means of detecting targets, what's the use of such a machine in a war?
      3. Armax 26 October 2015 09: 06 New
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        Quote: Mera Joota
        Because the T-50 Golden Eagle is a combat training aircraft, while the Yak-130 trainer

        I don’t know how the T-50 Golden Eagle, and the Yak-130 is just a combat training one.
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        2. Mera joota 26 October 2015 09: 27 New
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          Quote: ArMax
          and the Yak-130 is just combat training.

          And how can an aircraft without any means of detection be called combat?
          1. GRAY 26 October 2015 09: 53 New
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            Quote: Mera Joota
            And how can an aircraft without any means of detection be called combat?

            The absence of a radar does not interfere with striking ground targets.
            The T-50, by the way, also does not have it - this is the cheapest modification.
            The radar is mounted on the T / A-50 and F / A-50.
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            2. Mera joota 26 October 2015 10: 12 New
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              Quote: GRAY
              The absence of a radar does not interfere with striking ground targets.

              To strike at ground targets, the FA-50 uses Sniper suspension containers, which the Yak-130 does not even plan to, because there is nothing.

              Quote: GRAY
              The T-50, by the way, doesn’t have it either

              The American AN / APG-50 radar station is installed on the T-67; the Israeli EL / M-50 is installed on the TA-50 and FA-2032 variants.
              In addition to radar, there is naturally a weapon control system.
              Well and the most important thing. I don’t know how Uzbekistan, but all T-50 operators purchased the car only in shock versions.

              All the differences between the T-50 and the TA-50 and FA-50 are only in the addition of equipment and a wide range of ASPs. The “classic” T-50 can use medium-range and short-range missiles thanks to radar and SLA.
              1. GRAY 26 October 2015 10: 48 New
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                Quote: Mera Joota
                On the T-50 installed American radar AN / APG-67,

                I suppose they did it for themselves, there should still be some beech in the name, the T-50 is the common household name of the family
                Like this:
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                2. Mera joota 26 October 2015 11: 37 New
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                  Quote: GRAY
                  I guess they did it for themselves

                  I really respect Sky Corner, but different sources have different information, like the T-50 UTS and the T-50 LIFT UBS, or that AN / APG-67 is installed on the base model.
                  But in any case, the export vehicles are Israeli EL / M-2032.
                  But let’s take a look at the other side; there are no radar systems and YMS in any variants on the Yak-130. We are talking accordingly about production cars, not hypothetical ...
                  1. GRAY 26 October 2015 12: 42 New
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                    Quote: Mera Joota
                    But let’s take a look at the other side; there are no radar systems and YMS in any variants on the Yak-130.

                    To install "extra" components means to increase the cost, they are not needed for training, their work is simulated by on-board equipment, which eliminates the use of real bombs and missiles.
                    In fact, the Yak-130 is exactly the same designer as the T-50, there are both training modifications and combat training.
                    Another possibility is the creation of a light combat aircraft based on the Yak-130, with the installation of easy booking and related equipment.
                    “The possibility of installing an optical-location station system with the option of increasing the capabilities of the aircraft to use guided weapons is being considered. The system allows you to simply modify the aircraft, ”Popovich said. - The installation of a radar in the bow is the most difficult and biggest revision, which is under development. If a decision is made to finalize the aircraft into a light combat aircraft, this idea will be realized. ” According to open sources, the Bars-130 airborne radar station (BRL) can be installed on the Yak-130. “Naturally, work is underway to build up the weapons that are now being adopted by the RF Armed Forces,” he added.
                    In the light combat version of the Yak-130, in addition, a radio electronic warfare system (EW) and an aiming complex will be installed. Also, the car will change to ensure easy booking. The aircraft can be introduced in-flight refueling system.
                    The issue of upgrading the Yak-130 is currently being discussed with the Air Force, the required technical specifications and the amount of funding are determined.

                    http://krasvremya.ru/eksperty-yak-130-luchshij-obrazec-lyotno-boevoj-texniki/
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                    2. Mera joota 26 October 2015 13: 24 New
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                      Quote: GRAY
                      To install "extra" components means to increase the cost, they are not needed for training, their work is simulated by on-board equipment, which eliminates the use of real bombs and missiles.

                      I agree that this is quite enough for the TCB. UBS (the Uzbeks wanted to buy the FA-50, as it turned out) can be practically used.
                      Quote: GRAY
                      In fact, the Yak-130 is exactly the same designer as the T-50

                      Typically Russian wishful thinking. The T-50 exists in strike versions, it is sold in them, the Yak-130 exists only in the form of a TCB, of course it can use unguided ammunition, but only by sight. The fact that, hypothetically, he can get radar, SLA, etc. "Facts from the world of the galaxy," there really isn’t such a thing, but there is an FA-50.
                  2. GRAY 26 October 2015 13: 03 New
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                    Quote: Mera Joota
                    SLA in general in no cases

                    I read that he can use the KAB-500, so something is still there.
                    A television system - at a minimum.
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                    2. Mera joota 26 October 2015 13: 27 New
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                      Quote: GRAY
                      I read that he can use the KAB-500

                      So it is a demand from the one who wrote such nonsense.
                      Quote: GRAY
                      A television system - at a minimum.

                      On the Yak-130 only helmet-mounted target designation system for missiles with TGSN R-73, that's all. There is nothing else. There are plans to equip the Arbalest radar and EOS, but these are only unrealized intentions.
                      1. GRAY 26 October 2015 15: 54 New
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                        Quote: Mera Joota
                        . There is nothing else.

                        Yeah, nothing at all.
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                      3. GRAY 26 October 2015 16: 10 New
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                        What is it then?
                      4. Mera joota 26 October 2015 19: 21 New
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                        Quote: GRAY
                        Yeah, nothing at all.

                        Quote: GRAY
                        What is it then?

                        Well, what are you so lazy, is it really difficult to read about the Yak-130? Information sea!
                        We go to the website of the Yakovlev Design Bureau http://www.yak.ru/prod/new_130.php, find the Yak-130 and read:
                        The aircraft is equipped with an integrated remote control system that performs the functions of an automatic control system and an active flight safety system and allows, for educational purposes, to reprogram the stability and controllability characteristics depending on the type of simulated aircraft.

                        The on-board system for simulating combat use modes provides:

                        -imitation of air combat with the search, detection, recognition, capture and tracking of air targets, launching air-to-air missiles with thermal and radar homing heads, launching missiles and jamming by the enemy, using means of the airborne defense complex;
                        -interaction with other aircraft in the group and ground and air control points;
                        - imitation of ground targets with the launch of air-to-surface missiles with radar, television, thermal and laser homing heads, unguided missiles, dropping bombs, firing cannons, launching anti-aircraft missiles and interfering with the enemy, using means of the airborne defense complex.


                        At MFIs, for training purposes, an imitation of attacks by ground targets is created. This is not real, it is a training record for practicing certain exercises.
                        I repeat, on the Yak-130 there is NO means of target detection, nor thermal imagers, nor laser rangefinders, nor digital cameras ...
                        Rather, there are cameras, they are installed in the cockpit and record the actions of the student ...
                      5. GRAY 26 October 2015 19: 49 New
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                        . This is not real, it is a training record for practicing certain exercises.

                        I know.
                        Rather, there are cameras, they are installed in the cockpit and record the actions of the student ...

                        There are cameras on bombs too.
                        We go to the website of the Yakovlev Design Bureau http://www.yak.ru/prod/new_130.php, find the Yak-130 and read:

                        Why Yakovlev Design Bureau, the manufacturer’s website is http://www.irkut.com/products/yak130/
                        And it says there:
                        The complex of guided and unguided weapons makes it possible to effectively use the Yak-130 during training and in solving combat missions.
                        request
                        The armament includes:
                        - air-to-air missiles P-73 with IR homing heads;
                        - high-precision aerial bombs KAB-500Кр with TV guidance system;
                        - Aerial bombs caliber 50, 100, 250, 500 kg;
                        - unguided C-8, C-13, C-25 aircraft missiles;
                        - Suspended container SNPU-130 with a gun GSH-23L.
    3. Armax 26 October 2015 10: 58 New
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      "And how can an aircraft without any means of detection be called combat?"

      Manufacturer-Corporation Irkut positions the Yak-130 specifically for combat training.
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      2. Mera joota 26 October 2015 11: 39 New
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        Quote: ArMax
        Manufacturer-Corporation Irkut positions the Yak-130 specifically for combat training.

        He can position it with anything. But the combat vehicle must be able to find the enemy in order to fight with him. On the Yak-130, this can only be done visually.
  • Decathlon 26 October 2015 08: 04 New
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    "... efforts will be made to have the US authorities agree to an export deal ..."
    Ah, you kneel, proud sons of Korea!
  • Same lech 26 October 2015 08: 05 New
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    Washington opposes Seoul's plans to sell T-50 Golden Eagle combat training aircraft to Tashkent


    Why do Uzbeks need these planes and why do they take them?
    There are also our good combat training Yak-130s ... maybe we were chasing cheapness.
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      gjv 26 October 2015 11: 10 New
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      Quote: The same Lech
      Why do Uzbeks need these planes and why do they take them? There are our good combat training Yak-130s ... maybe they were chasing cheapness.

      KAI T-50 Golden Eagle is more expensive than Yak-130 for $ 10 million.
      Quote: Vadim12
      There are no revolutionary technologies in this Utka. Yak can simulate the behavior of almost any aircraft, so it will be abruptly.

      The Yak-130, of course, can model a beautiful aircraft and flight modes of different aircraft, but the KAI T-50 Golden Eagle has a radar, a navigation system and air-to-air, air-to-ground missile guidance systems and guided bombs. Compared to the Yak-130, this T-50 Golden Eagle flies without a PTB to a greater range (200-300 km) with greater speed and at a higher altitude.
      Regarding technology, it certainly does not print on a 3D printer. The same manual assembly with rolling scaffolds and ladders.

      T-50 aircraft manufactured at Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) in Sacheon. 02.01.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX (c) Korea Aerospace Industries

      But the engine of the American General Electric F404 is quite technologically advanced.
      Dual-circuit twin-shaft turbojet engine with a three-stage low compressor and a seven-stage high-pressure compressor. The engine is equipped with single-stage low and high pressure turbines (with cooled single-crystal blades). Nozzle - tapering-expanding adjustable. The engine control system is electro-hydromechanical. For fixing the rotors to the shaft, only 5 roller thrust bearings were used.
      The engine is modular, the time required to replace spare parts is:
      2,3 hours fan for 3 people
      KVD 12,6 hours by 3 people
      6,9 hours combustion chamber by 2 people
      Theater of operations 6 hours by 3 people
      TND 3 hours by 2 people
      Afterburner 1 hour by 3 people.
      This engine and its modifications are equipped with 15 types of aircraft.
    3. GRAY 26 October 2015 13: 12 New
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      Quote: The same Lech
      Why do Uzbeks need these planes and why do they take them?

      Because it’s not very good with normal combat aircraft. Yak-130 to this level has not yet been finalized, but they want to eat a fish and climb a pine tree.
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      2. Mera joota 26 October 2015 13: 16 New
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        Quote: GRAY
        Because it’s not very good with normal combat aircraft. Yak-130 to this level has not yet been finalized, but they want to eat a fish and climb a pine tree.

        Here you are right for all 100 ...
  • Vadim12 26 October 2015 08: 05 New
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    There are no revolutionary technologies in this Utka. Yak can simulate the behavior of almost any aircraft, so it will be abruptly.
    1. shuhartred 26 October 2015 08: 45 New
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      There are no revolutionary technologies in this Utka.

      That's when the same dill with other "fraternal" republics of the Yankees, Soviet technology poured tons (together with samples) everything was fine. And now, because of the training aircraft, they got excited. Koreans to Uzbeks, what are technology going to transfer? Even if you get a sample of the work there for more than one month, to understand if there is anything to copy at all. Look, the Chinese are stupidly doing "the same" and that doesn’t work out very well because there is no technology
  • Alexander Romanov 26 October 2015 08: 06 New
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    In addition, efforts will be made to allow US authorities to agree to an export deal.
    Baba Yaga against! or independence by Koreiski winked
    1. Mera joota 26 October 2015 08: 29 New
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      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Baba Yaga against! or independence by Koreiski

      The Koreans made the plane with the help of the Americans, because their permission to sell is required. For example, the French cannot sell the Mistral with our equipment without our permission, and this is normal.
  • paxil 26 October 2015 08: 06 New
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    Well, in vain are they, Russian technologies in avionics are not inferior to mattresses, or maybe even superior. They are afraid that everyone will find out that they haven’t come up with anything new, or what? laughing
  • A1L9E4K9S 26 October 2015 08: 11 New
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    “Uzbekistan has close relations with Russia, and the United States fears that the export of the T-50 to Uzbekistan could lead to the transfer of technology to Russia.

    Any bast in a row, if only to annoy Russia (out of harm).
  • Armored optimist 26 October 2015 08: 16 New
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    Quote: A1L9E4K9S
    “Uzbekistan has close relations with Russia, and the United States fears that the export of the T-50 to Uzbekistan could lead to the transfer of technology to Russia.

    Any bast in a row, if only to annoy Russia (out of harm).

    Yes, here it seems our ours have fussed. They whispered about the "technology" amer, as a result, the competitor to our Yak-130 self-destructed. It is also necessary to ride the Uzbek minister on ours, he will like it.
    1. Same lech 26 October 2015 08: 21 New
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      It is also necessary to ride the Uzbek minister on ours, he will like it.


      I don’t think .... after aerobatics on the YAK-130, he will cover the entire cabin of the YAK with the contents of the stomach .... and he will have to take it out on a stretcher.
      1. amirbek 26 October 2015 08: 39 New
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        in this case, you need to ride on an empty stomach smile
  • grinyow.ivan 26 October 2015 08: 18 New
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    mattress-striped will not want to sell. puppet democracy.
  • Mountain shooter 26 October 2015 08: 19 New
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    This is not a reason but an excuse, supposedly super-technology. An instruction to make Russia guilty of everything, even natural disasters. A bit, a grain ...
    Vile policy. And our Yak 130s, as I understand it, are up for grabs, and the Uzbeks do not want to wait in line.
    1. Armored optimist 26 October 2015 08: 29 New
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      It seems that after the operation in Syria, we will have a lot of hot cakes. It is necessary to build new plants for the production of S-400, Carapace, aircraft, etc.
    2. Mera joota 26 October 2015 08: 34 New
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      And our Yak 130s now, as I understand it - to grab

      Well, then the demand for the T-50 Golden Eagle is more than for the Yak-130, so that's not the point.
  • edeligor 26 October 2015 08: 20 New
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    I have the feeling that the Americans are making such statements to themselves, while humiliating us. In aircraft manufacturing, our only lag lies exclusively in the field of electronics; otherwise, the "high-tech" Yankees should learn from us.
  • BOB044 26 October 2015 08: 23 New
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    Where is some kind of manure, then the USA was here or is. hi
    1. amirbek 26 October 2015 08: 42 New
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      it was not enough that this rubbish stuff is still here, the air shook and spoiled us am
  • Junior, I 26 October 2015 08: 25 New
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    A woman yaga, against!
    So much stink from nothing. Well, the full paragraph!
  • Very old 26 October 2015 08: 27 New
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    Quote: vovanpain
    Yes, the mattress will soon resemble the territory of 404 by the stupidity of the statements made.


    Hollande's Grably - Let Go Beat the Well
    In Paris, bites your elbows, this is not science
  • solovey 26 October 2015 08: 34 New
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    Yak 130 is much better and more profitable for us! So the Uzbeks do not worry, we will sell you 130 Yaki wink
    1. donavi49 26 October 2015 09: 25 New
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      Karimov at one time shouted "America is with us!" and focused on European and American weapons.

      In particular, more than 300 Oshkosh were taken. Several transport aircraft C-295. The army of Uzbekistan is participating in a bunch of joint training and exercises with NATO.
      1. Turkestan 26 October 2015 11: 14 New
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        It is interesting in what A LOT of joint trainings and exercises with NATO do Uzbek forces take part?
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    NKV 26 October 2015 08: 41 New
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    A short guide to South Korean independence.
  • roskot 26 October 2015 09: 07 New
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    And if they buy, then how many problems will be with the repair. And is it necessary for the Uzbeks?
  • donavi49 26 October 2015 09: 19 New
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    This is by the way about the fact that it would be better if they bought ships from the Koreans, they used to scream out ... Their UDC supposedly is better for the Navy and the construction site is closer to the Pacific Fleet. Koreans unfortunately cannot do anything without the approval of the White House.
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      Quote: donavi49
      Koreans unfortunately can not do anything without the approval of the White House.

      Your opinion would be true if this machine was 100% made in Korea, but the T-50 is half American.
      1. donavi49 26 October 2015 10: 01 New
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        So, UDC is also a good third American wink .
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          Quote: donavi49
          So, UDC is also a good third American

          Duc no one tried to buy it, it's nothing more than a chatter on the net.
      2. pv1005 26 October 2015 10: 19 New
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        Koreans unfortunately can not do anything without the approval of the White House.

        Your opinion would be true if this machine was 100% made in Korea, but the T-50 is half American.


        Developed by the South Korean aerospace company (Korea Aerospace Industries - KAI) together with the American company Lockheed Martin (the program was 17% funded by KAI, 13% Lockheed Martin, and 70% was allocated by the government of South Korea).

        Well, in no way pulls half. hi
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        2. Mera joota 26 October 2015 10: 48 New
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          Well, in no way pulls half.

          What does financing and equipment have to do with it? It is not with bills that they glue it. The T-50 flies on the American General Electric F404 engine, this is more than 13%, not to mention the AN / APG-67 radar and the armament range (it is 90% American).
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        be this car 100% made in Korea, but the T-50 is half American

        Half - this is apparently - an airplane without an engine - not an airplane.
        And so the development of the T-50 Golden Eagle was funded by LockheedMartins only 13%. If a "democratic vote" were held on such issues, then the Koreans would sell these planes to Uzbekistan. However, we see that the right of veto prevails.
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        2. Mera joota 26 October 2015 12: 23 New
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          However, we see that the right of veto prevails.

          The Uzbeks wanted to buy the top version of the FA-50, at least on the news
          Kabul Berdiev made a “flight” on the simulator of the FA-50 aircraft - the “combat” version of the T-50

          And that implied the purchase of not only the machines themselves, but also hanging containers, and the range of ASP. Knowing what corruption in Uzbekistan is not difficult to guess how soon the same Lightning container will be in Russia ...
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            gjv 26 October 2015 14: 12 New
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            it’s not difficult to guess how soon the same Lightning container will be in Russia

            In addition to the cannon version, about which it was known for a long time and in detail (modification with the 25 mm GAU-22 five-barrel gun), there is also an option with electronic warfare systems and some "additional electronic sensors". The version with electronic warfare systems is intended for the Corps, to replace the aging EA-6B Prowler, since the EA-18G Growler is a fleet toy, and the marines need their own car, preferably a relatively cheap and versatile option. To use F-35B equipped with additional systems for this is very reasonable - this not only ensures the unification of the fleet, but also opens up additional opportunities due to its shortened take-off capabilities. "Additional electronic sensors" is probably some kind of basic electronic intelligence system, which should provide the ability to accurately detect enemy radars and, at a minimum, provide target designation to PRRs, such as the AGM-88E AARGM.
            At the Farnborough 2012 exhibition, a mock-up of just such an option was presented.




            Perhaps in order not to bring down Lightning or corrupt the Uzbeks, it was necessary to go to the exhibition and take a picture.
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              In addition to the cannon version, about which it was known for a long time and in detail (modification with the 25 mm GAU-22 five-barrel gun), there is also an option with electronic warfare systems and some "additional electronic sensors".

              I meant the LITENING Targeting Pod, it's really Israeli, but the T-50 can use the American Sniper (XR).
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              I had to go to the exhibition and take a picture.

              What is the use of photographs, to climb inside, this is luck, program codes to get a holiday in general ...
  • 33 Watcher 26 October 2015 09: 44 New
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    Yes, and to hell with your technology. We will sell the Yaks to the Uzbeks!

    And what is there in these T-50 Golden Eagle that there are none in our aircraft, the same YAKs? And what we do not know without them. This is so from harm. Yes, and from the redneck that they do not buy American planes. And the Uzbeks are also good - why didn’t they understand yet how to be friends with America and its sixes?

    Yes, there is nothing secret or technological there, they just were offended that they are buying, not from them. We are waiting, now in the coming weeks they will offer (strongly offer) an alternative, but already directly from American manufacturers
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      Yes, there is nothing secret or technological there, they just were offended that they are buying, not from them

      I think our specialists would be very interested in the T-50 emf, the domestic one, although it has 4-fold redundancy, but because of its reason three cars were lost ...
  • EvilLion 26 October 2015 10: 01 New
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    How Uzbek will be "ganba" and "zrada"?

    And so America is with them.
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      gjv 26 October 2015 12: 06 New
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      How Uzbek will be "ganba" and "zrada"?

      "uyat" and "aldash" fellow
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    [quote = Observer 33] [/ quote]
    Yes, there is nothing secret or technological there, they just were offended that they are buying, not from them. We are waiting, now in the coming weeks they will offer (strongly offer) an alternative, but already directly from the American manufacturers [/ quote]
    good
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    Poor Koreans are unlucky, with Turkish tanks the same situation happened. Germany has blocked the supply of MTU engines.
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    in modern conditions it is necessary to design equipment for competitive engines, Korea would now supply the Ukrainian engine, say, and sell aircraft.
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      gjv 26 October 2015 12: 32 New
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      in modern conditions it is necessary to design equipment for competitive engines, Korea would now supply a Ukrainian engine, say

      Why Ukrainian. Let's better offer Koreans Klimov RD-33.
  • marshes 26 October 2015 10: 44 New
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    T-50, the golden eagle, according to the description on the wiki, can hit a moving car in a dense urban area,
    AGM-65 "Maverick" (Eng. Maverick, literally "tramp") - an American tactical missile class air-to-surface.

    Designed for the rapid application of high-precision strikes against the enemy. The missile allows you to destroy well-armored and moving targets in urban areas.

    In 1991, they were actively used by the Americans in the war with Iraq.

    1.4 mach speed. Yes, and the price is “tasty” on the 25 wiki Lyama.
    Just for densely populated areas, Mahal with two-meter duels.
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      Just for densely populated areas, Mahal with two-meter duels.

      To date, in the region from the side of official structures of states there are no territorial claims to each other.
      Meanwhile, the borders of the republics do not correspond to ethnic borders, which in the future may serve as the cause of ethnic conflicts in the following places:
      - In Osh and Uzgen between Kyrgyz and Uzbeks;
      - in Samarkand and Bukhara between Uzbeks and Tajiks, who were recorded as Uzbeks in the 30s;
      - in the south of Kazakhstan between Kazakhs and Uzbeks;
      - in the Khujansk region between Uzbeks and Tajiks;
      - in the Shaartuz region between Tajiks and Uzbeks;
      - in Karakalpakia between Uzbeks and Karakalpaks;
      - in the oases of the Amu Darya between Uzbeks and Turkmens.
      These conflicts are potential and unsolvable, their absolute non-occurrence may be associated with the internationalization of the terrain according to the type of relations that existed in the Russian Empire or now exist in the United States.
      Otherwise, with the weakening of the official structures of the state (say, caused by clan political showdowns or coups, natural disasters, etc.), interethnic and religious wars of Muslims are inevitable. And what is most sad, they will be permanent until a new owner comes for them or a new authoritarian regime or empire is formed.
      © International Institute for Humanitarian and Political Studies
  • buran583 26 October 2015 11: 21 New
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    Not always the main thing to have ... The main thing is to be able to. This is tactics and strategy.