We do not understand anything in contemporary art! Doubtful logo for New Moscow for 15 million rubles

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Last week, the center for strategic communications with the “modest” name “Apostle”, headed by Tina Kandelaki, reported on the creation of the New Moscow logo. A tender with an initial cost of more than 17 million rubles to create a logo was announced last year (2014) by such an organization as the state unitary enterprise Research and Design Institute of the General Plan of Moscow. It is clear that Moscow is not a city of the poor, and therefore, apparently ready to finance tenders to create logos on a wide, as they say, foot, but the amount of 17 millions even experienced designers with a hefty portfolio (recruitment of successfully completed works) caused some bewilderment. But the tender for that and the tender so that its final cost would fall at times due to numerous proposals from competing design centers, ready to do the job qualitatively. Therefore, initially a wave of bewilderment subsided. True, not for long ...

After some time, it turned out that the tender was won by the Apostle Center mentioned above, who “kindly agreed” to create a logo for “just” 15 million rubles ... Professional designers opened their mouths ... And the opening of mouths was due to the fact that no "Did not happen, and that such a price really somehow gives away the corruption potential of the whole transaction.

However, this wave also had to subside, as the design community expected from the Apostle an outstanding work in all respects, which would be a graphic symbol of New Moscow worth 15 million rubles. A creation in which both the scale of the Russian capital and historical milestones through which the city, developing, passed. They waited, waited, and, you know, did not immediately wait ... The deadlines for the execution of the order placed by the Research and Design Institute of the General Plan of Moscow came out, and the Apostle was clearly in no hurry to give the result. As a result, with months of delay, the following work was submitted to the customer’s court (accepted by the R&D Institute, it seemed like a bang):

We do not understand anything in contemporary art! Doubtful logo for New Moscow for 15 million rubles




And after that, the professional design community was no longer holding back emotions. So, blogger Kirill Voronkov (professional designer) called the work of "designers" Tina Kandelaki "hack-work, evident even to the unprofessional majority", as well as "embarrassment and recognition of incompetence." The media community was completely lost in conjectures about what this logo symbolizes: either a dog, excuse me, poop (12 pieces by the number of elements on the "main" logo), or a reworked emblem of the Moscow Planetarium ...

One could, of course, consider that all these designer fights were not able to figure it out among themselves, and therefore they put sticks in creative wheels to each other, envying that 15 millions went to another pocket, and calling them nothing competitors in the design department ... But here the question of “human envy” still goes by the wayside for the simple reason that the blogger Voronkov discovered the source of inspiration for the design center Apostol in the public domain. As it turns out, the image of the authors of the logo of New Moscow could borrow on the site that distributes graphic templates templates for free download - link.

The most interesting thing is that the “Apostol” declared that all the accusations of frank plagiarism against them were false. Like, bloggers cast a shadow on the fence, and there was no download - we did everything ourselves! Just so coincided ...

Here is a statement by representatives of the center of strategic communications:
In nature, this pattern is formed organically, and for its artificial reproduction, algorithms that mathematically reproduce this method of partitioning space are used. Manually correctly portray such a pattern is almost impossible, and most importantly - it is inexpedient: if you deviate from the correct grid, the recognition of the pattern is lost. In this regard, to generate a Voronoi pattern, our designers used special software. This practice is generally accepted in graphic design.


Commenting on this statement, professional designers shrug their shoulders and declare that they have never heard of such a “standard practice” that would call manual work on “natural patterns” inappropriate and recommend using only mathematically reproducing algorithms ...

The statement of the Apostle’s creatives intersects with the words of Ostap Bender in the work of I.Ilf and E.Petrov “The Golden Calf”:
Listen to what I put on a lamp last night with the fluctuating light of an electric lamp: "I remember a wonderful moment, you appeared before me as a fleeting vision, as a genius of pure beauty." Really good? Talented? And only at dawn, when the last lines were written, I remembered that A. Pushkin had already written this verse. Such a blow from the classic! BUT?


If the one who “created” the logo of New Moscow was in place of Ostap Bender, then, apparently, he would say that such a poem “is formed organically, and for its artificial reproduction mathematical algorithms are required, which were used for writing ... "So the question arises: who is the greater" great combinator "- O. Bender or the Apostle strategic communications center?

However, God bless him with this logo ... There are much more questions for those who decided to launch such a tender at all, using considerable budget funds. After all, the same designers often admit that if the muse refuses to visit them, they resort to the help of freelancers who can build something like this in half an hour of work, having received far from her millions. Why didn’t there be at least one initiator of such a competition at the public level during the proliferating initiative groups of Moscow activists? Is it really the case that the corruption scheme has reached its tentacles and before this, it would seem, which has nothing to do with the cutting direction - the direction of creative services ...

By the way, the deal with the “Apostle”, as a result of which the money from the budget went to something similar to outright plagiarism, became interested in the parliamentary counting commission. So, deputy Alexander Ageev sent a request to the prosecutor's office about the need to verify the prisoner between the "Apostle" (the name is completely according to Bender) and the Research and Design Institute of the General Plan of Moscow.

There is only one conclusion: the work of the great combinator lives and thrives, and at the company “Horns and hoofs” branches operate throughout the country - from Moscow to the outskirts.

PS Center Tina Kandelaki was engaged in "branding" of the Kalashnikov Concern enterprise, developing the "brand" of the Mortgage Lending Agency, promoting the 11 of Russian cities to the World Cup 2018. Based on such information, it is time to rejoice that the tender did not cost the budget of Moscow in 15 BILLION rubles ...
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  1. +68
    26 October 2015 06: 52
    Some vomit, not a logo ...

    In general, it’s good to be a designer for the highest echelons, .... 15 lyam is not the limit ...



    1. +40
      26 October 2015 07: 00
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Some vomit, not a logo ...

      And so it always turns out when you are too lazy to think and for 15 lyamov you stupidly pull someone else's. As they say, find the 10 differences ... If only it were not so frankly ripped off from free templates ...
      1. +18
        26 October 2015 07: 04
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Quote: DEZINTO
        Some vomit, not a logo ...

        And so it always comes out when you are too lazy to think and for 15 lyam you stupidly pull someone else's. As they say, find the 10 differences ... If only it were not so frankly ripped off from free templates ...

        So who owns the agency? Tine Kandelaki?
        wink
        What is due to Jupiter is not allowed to a bull.
        1. +17
          26 October 2015 07: 12
          Quote: atalef
          Tine Kandelaki?

          Hello Sasha. Since December 2013, Tina Kandelaki has been the CEO of Apostle.
          1. +24
            26 October 2015 08: 31
            If this "general director" bites his tongue, a long sick leave is guaranteed. This is the instrument of production and the capital of the entire fund.
            1. +7
              26 October 2015 13: 03
              What is due to Jupiter is not allowed to bull

              "Jupiters" are sitting in other chairs.
              And these are their chicks, sabchachki-candiloma ...

              In general, too, Georgians draw a symbol of Moscow districts .. Everywhere they climbed .. am
              1. +1
                26 October 2015 15: 29
                Quote: Lance
                We climbed everywhere ..



                Yeah ... just like condylomas ...
                1. GDP
                  +3
                  26 October 2015 17: 23
                  This is the same Kandelaki who, for millions of Tugriks, came up with a new Kalashnikov logo, over which everyone was laughing long and hard ...

                  Are our oligarchs no safer way for the country to spend money on women ?!


                  Well, they would give her that money just like that! Although ... If this is state money, then of course it’s not a pity ...
                  1. +8
                    26 October 2015 19: 38
                    Once again, "Moscow" is mad with fat. And this is against the general background of instability in the country?
                    Once again I recall: "Maybe Kutuzov was right after all: in order to save Russia, you need to burn Moscow?"
                    After all, all kinds of negativity is concentrated there! Including and imperious pseudo-elites.
                    In Soviet times, Moscow was the capital of the Motherland, and now it is another Russia. Continuous comprador after the events of 1991-93. and the "special role" of Moscow in this.
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        2. +22
          26 October 2015 09: 27
          Quote: atalef
          What is due to Jupiter is not allowed to a bull.


          Something about logos.
          1. +5
            26 October 2015 16: 16
            "... Hello, I'm design !!!"
            "I see ... that you are not - Ivanov ..."
        3. +5
          26 October 2015 10: 54
          You are deeply mistaken! If not for this absurdity, we would not know the name of the institute. And it is a value in itself! He said, for example: "NIiPi my brains" - and all the decencies are observed ...
          1. 0
            26 October 2015 16: 08
            Quote: Azitral
            You are deeply mistaken! If not for this absurdity, we would not know the name of the institute. And it is a value in itself! He said, for example: "NIiPi my brains" - and all the decencies are observed ...


            Something similar was already today. The truth is at 9.43.
            (see below) Bad colleague.
            The one who "protects" Aestol in the Moscow City Hall answered Ageev's request something like this:
            "NIIPIT my brains"
        4. +4
          26 October 2015 14: 00
          Rebranding is very fashionable! At the beginning of last year, the office where he worked then also conducted it - "only" for 450k of greenery, as many as four design agencies, rearranged one stick on the logo at an angle, slightly changed the color and brought it under the "evidence base" in the form of a volume " blah blah blah "why is it done. In principle, any designer could do it several times cheaper - but no, we cannot do that.
        5. +1
          26 October 2015 15: 21
          Tine Kandelaki?


          Damn, the price of a luxury car! Tina may have a different place every month. Especially not publicizing. Most likely she here acted as a vice chairman .....
        6. 0
          26 October 2015 15: 28
          Quote: atalef
          So who owns the agency? Tine Kandelaki?



          Hmm ... By and large - who is Tina Kandelaki ???

          Does she work for some of Vasilyeva's "close to the body" ???
      2. +11
        26 October 2015 07: 11
        Well ....
        1. +9
          26 October 2015 07: 30
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          Well ....

          The most offensive thing is that just as money was not taken back from Mudyashkin for a glamorous new form, so here they will forgive. No wonder that such a "stubborn" tender was ...
          1. +9
            26 October 2015 08: 23
            What is it? From the drawings they ripped off the F-1 grenade in the context? A little expensive for the technological model of the foundry core.
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        3. 0
          26 October 2015 15: 33
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          Well ....



          "Normal" Russian reality ...

          There are enough such "projects" in Russia ... just enough to close the holes in the health and education budget for these amounts ...
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      5. +1
        26 October 2015 13: 36
        And then the real author of this creation at the city hall will sue another 15 million for illegal use
      6. 0
        26 October 2015 13: 38
        it looks like a web ... not sure if a successful logo.
      7. +2
        26 October 2015 18: 46
        "Kisa, tell me, as an artist to an artist. Can you draw?"
      8. 0
        26 October 2015 20: 53
        So Moscow has a cancerous tumor on the body of Russia - a garbage can and its logo is the hatch of a sewer well.
    2. -8
      26 October 2015 08: 20
      Military Review and YOU there too ??? Everyone has been discussing for the second week, tinder and slander ...
      1. +6
        26 October 2015 08: 46
        So, the blogger Kirill Voronkov (professional designer) called the work of “designers” Tina Kandelaki “hackwork, obvious even to the unprofessional majority”, as well as “embarrassment and recognition of unsuitability”

        It can be said more simply: "Kaki from Tina Kandelaki"! smile
      2. 0
        26 October 2015 09: 55
        Samaritan
        about why "tinder"
        for example, the coat of arms of Ukraine is (in short) - "separation (destruction) of life in honor and conscience" or I am higher than honor (byt) and conscience (customs of ancestors)
        moreover, it (coat of arms) is also placed incorrectly! the coat of arms should look to the right with rays "well, at least that's how Malkind placed his seal on the texts!

        and everything small is reflected in the big!
      3. 0
        26 October 2015 10: 19
        Quote: Samaritan
        Military Review and you there too?

        I agree a lot of garbage!
        1. +1
          26 October 2015 13: 06
          Quote: sssla
          Quote: Samaritan
          Military Review and you there too?

          I agree a lot of garbage!


          It also seemed to me that the content of the article is far from the subject matter of the site. The only connection that comes to mind: the defendants in this case - should be stuffed into the camera, like cartridges in a clip. And the key is to lose.
    3. +4
      26 October 2015 08: 41
      Since Moscow is a state in a state, and we, zamkadysh, are not a decree, but having learned that the team led by Tina Kandelaki is engaged in such matters, we can already with some degree of confidence assume the absence of a real result and the presence of kickbacks and launders ... laughing
      1. avt
        +5
        26 October 2015 09: 43
        Quote: Finches
        and we them, zamkadysh, not a decree,

        Yeah, here on Sakhalin, the governor just kept a billion in cash in banknotes of 5 thousand each - he could not afford to order the Sakhalin logo - Moscow took the money, so he put it off his salary wassat , and in Komi from great poverty and the fact that "all the money is in Moscow", according to the lawyer, Gaizer collected a collection of Swiss watches ... from Chinese copies. Poor fellow / zamkadysh ...
        1. +1
          26 October 2015 10: 07
          For Sakhalin and Komi, these are fantastic riches acquired by dishonest means, and for Moscow, they are inconspicuous little things ... laughing
          1. avt
            +5
            26 October 2015 10: 24
            Quote: Finches
            For Sakhalin and Komi, these are fantastic riches acquired by dishonest means, and for Moscow, they are inconspicuous little things of life ..

            Yes Yes . Then I look, "elite" housing in Moscow is being bought up by visitors and is empty, waiting for the owner to visit, well, as a "natural trifle of life", again, the Geyser collection, well, the very same copy of Chinese Swiss watches, was taken from the Komi office in Moscow. Although the melancholy and envy of those who like to conquer Moscow went and remained in it without even "having conquered" it is understandable - nothing new, everything that is well-known old from the time of the limit - the most arrogant Muscovites are exactly of these, nowadays it is called "office plankton", before, at least according to the limit, people really worked, and those who studied also went up in life. Well, now the truth is that different candelacs have dust in their eyes due to wet cracks, the opportunities have increased incredibly - capitalism.
            1. 0
              26 October 2015 10: 43
              Once bought housing - already Muscovites!
              1. avt
                +3
                26 October 2015 11: 42
                Quote: Finches
                Once bought housing - already Muscovites!

                Well, yes, yes, it’s like it’s not our shit anymore, well, we don’t give a shit here, but now it’s your capital’s country all stink. It is true that Sverdlovsk / Yekaterinburg should not be presented for Yeltsin, again for this in an article in Tyumen and Kazan, and even worse, in St. Petersburg. Well, if you recall who appointed it. wassat Sykotno. I believe. Even here on a lavrushnitsa it is ssykotno to run into. Yes, and then a campaign - ,, I am ready to steal, I would go out with a cudgel, but I'm afraid! And so the worker ... " laughing , well, it's really scary to piss on your home lads, but to Moscow Vo-oh-oh-pche even seems to be comme il faut and even the local lads can praise, they say you understand your question, there is no money - Moscow is being taken away. there in Vladivostok, there are different cosmotromes, well, we all go to Moscow, we all go there, we ourselves only collect copies of Swiss watches and buy apartments in Moscow not because of a good life - we have to invest money, although we will live on a "pension" in London But I agree with one thing - they inflated Moscow to disgrace and it can no longer digest all this slag, and even give out something valuable on the same scale.
                1. 0
                  26 October 2015 19: 18
                  Muscovite? Sorry!

                  You just don’t need to relate to Russia the rest is high and everything will be fine!
                  1. avt
                    -1
                    26 October 2015 22: 06
                    Quote: Finches
                    Muscovite?

                    And I’m proud, like many others of my place of birth.
                    Quote: Finches
                    Sorry!

                    For your inferiority complex, which you chew yourself, leave it - it will come in handy.
                    1. +1
                      27 October 2015 22: 19
                      I’m a Siberian - and I’m proud of! Refute the historical fact that Moscow was always dragged out of the ass by anyone: Minin and Pozharsky, Siberian divisions, Peter even transferred the capital ..., and even now Moscow does not smell Muscovites in Moscow ... - fact?

                      Although I love Moscow as a city, I won’t deny it!

                      I even have a story dedicated to her http://www.proza.ru/2015/09/27/1180, and indeed ...!
    4. +10
      26 October 2015 10: 55
      Quote: DEZINTO
      In general, it’s good to be a designer for the highest echelons, .... 15 lyam is not the limit ...

      Seven red perpendicular green lines:
    5. 0
      26 October 2015 15: 30
      So, blogger Kirill Voronkov (professional designer) called the work of "designers" Tina Kandelaki "hack, obvious even to the non-professional majority", as well as "embarrassment and recognition of professional unsuitability." The media community is completely lost in conjectures about what this logo symbolizes: either doggy, sorry, poop (12 pieces by the number of elements on the "main" logo)


      So it is, with only one glance it is clear that GAMNO !.

      Remember the army logo. Also rolled from walmart. Damn, how they stole, and they steal when all this stops ?! When they are allowed to work enthusiasts and ideological professionals, as in Soviet times, and not selfish grant-eaters as they are now. It's a shame for the state.
      1. +2
        26 October 2015 19: 53
        Yes, the army prototype is also not the least to say the least. And all you had to do was add a blue border around the perimeter of the star and that’s it. Continuity would be respected by the colors of the Russian flag in place. Veterans are also satisfied and respected, and even cheaper by several orders of magnitude. But they made an incomprehensible mixture with amers or something. Who and what modest authors are unknown, and the competition was for pro forma. He drank it and it is a drank.
      2. 0
        26 October 2015 19: 53
        Yes, the army prototype is also not the least to say the least. And all you had to do was add a blue border around the perimeter of the star and that’s it. Continuity would be respected by the colors of the Russian flag in place. Veterans are also satisfied and respected, and even cheaper by several orders of magnitude. But they made an incomprehensible mixture with amers or something. Who and what modest authors are unknown, and the competition was for pro forma. He drank it and it is a drank.
    6. 0
      26 October 2015 19: 11
      Cho stuck with the girl ... there is a kaka baska !!! wassat http://images.rambler.ru/search?query=%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B0
      %D0%BA%D0%B8-%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%8F&adult=soft&i=0&utm_source=rambler-se
      arch & utm_medium = mixup & utm_campaign = images_
    7. 0
      29 October 2015 13: 49
      But how do you like the BP logo?
      If my memory serves me right, then it took a pathetic 250 million dead raccoons.
      So ours are just children in comparison with Western corrupt officials.
  2. +11
    26 October 2015 06: 55
    Doubtful logo for New Moscow for 15 million rubles

    This is not just vomit ... it is a banal cut of the allocated money ... money from the pocket of MOSCOW residents.
    1. +3
      26 October 2015 07: 07
      Quote: The same Lech
      Doubtful logo for New Moscow for 15 million rubles

      This is not just vomit ... it is a banal cut of the allocated money ... money from the pocket of MOSCOW residents.

      Apostol is a center of strategic communications. The holding unites companies integrated in various fields of information field management [1], and in parallel develops such areas as Russian and international PR, digital media, analytics, branding and design, production of graphic, audio and video content, R&D in the field of information technologies, consulting [2].
      Since February 2008, Brovko and Berkovich began promoting the magazine Russian Pioneer, whose chief editor was Andrei Kolesnikov, a journalist from the pool of Vladimir Putin[8]. Vasily Brovko held the position of creative director in the magazine [6].
      TV presenter joins cooperation with Apostol Tina Kandelaki[13], which later grew into a business partnership [14]. Kandelaki joined the board with its social capital [6].

      Everything is fine, it fits perfectly into the canvas of budget cutters - everything is just as good as any
      Friends and people close to the great and terrible
      1. +2
        26 October 2015 07: 29
        Quote: atalef
        Friends and people close to the great and terrible


        Do you know what surprises them? So much ado about such a "small" amount ...
        By the way, there is no less "talented" A. Lebedev .. also creative for many millions ..
      2. +1
        26 October 2015 07: 40
        Are you talking about Goodwin?
        Or are you always looking for the President’s footprint?
        Are you a comedian or paranoid?
        1. +1
          26 October 2015 15: 28
          Are you a comedian or paranoid?


          Can people complete the task? And you are immediately paranoid .... to a goose it’s clear that Tina could not take 250 pieces of greens without asking permission from Vova. So the task is manifested, to make geese out of citizens.
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      5. +2
        26 October 2015 15: 37
        Quote: atalef
        Friends and people close to the great and terrible

        Do not touch the "uzhastnogo" in this particular case. We must look wider.
        This vein has been developed for a long time - since the last millennium. And all over the planet. It is called - contemporary art.
        If a boy from a fairytale about a naked king came to the exhibition of Malevich, he would again state that this king was naked. And Malevich is not alone. You can stretch this long row up to Gelman, who sell frank hack to society as real art. The same “art historians” help them in this. Together with interested officials, they form a global organized criminal group called "modern art", which issues money from almost all government budgets. Including from the Russian.
        Regarding the son of a Turkish citizen, who knew three hundred about legal methods of taking money from his fellow citizens, he may just be a fool who did not see the most effective and safe way - modern art.
        But it is possible that he, on the contrary, is a very wise person and deliberately doesn’t go into those sectors of crime that they are told that “strangers don’t walk here”
        P.S. In addition to issuing money, this global OCG solves one more problem along the way — the destruction of the developed historical concepts of “beauty - ugliness”, “good - evil”, etc., as well as the established system of moral values, which is especially clearly seen in the “works” of Gelman .
        And it is not known which of these two tasks is more important for an organized criminal group.
        1. +2
          26 October 2015 16: 13
          Kintessence of modern art.
          "Artist's Feces" (Italian Merda d'artista) is a work of art by the Italian artist Piero Manzoni. In May 1961, Manzoni collected his own feces into 90 numbered cans, each containing 30 grams. On May 23, 2007, one of the copies was sold for 124 euros at Sotheby's.
    2. +2
      26 October 2015 09: 54
      60 billionaires and 700000 millionaires live in Moscow, so vryatli they will notice such a loss from their pockets.
      1. AUL
        +8
        26 October 2015 10: 26
        And on TV, we’ll collect one and a half lemons to save a child’s life from all over the country ... We’re a shame !!!
      2. +1
        26 October 2015 10: 31
        Quote: Vadim237
        60 billionaires and 700000 millionaires live in Moscow, so vryatli they will notice such a loss from their pockets.

        700 thousand millionaires? Dollar? Sure?
        1. +2
          26 October 2015 13: 03
          We live in America, everything is measured in rubles.
  3. +13
    26 October 2015 06: 56
    For fifteen lyamas I am ready to roll out 200 projects, even without being an artist, much less a designer! Only, go ahead!
    1. +3
      26 October 2015 10: 35
      Quote: Decathlon
      For fifteen lyamas I am ready to roll out 200 projects, even without being an artist, much less a designer! Only, go ahead!

      Well, I do not. You do not have that talent, creativity and hard work, like that of Tinochka and her friends. Take a look, she is engaged in sports as a channel, and sculpts logos, and transmits transmissions. I’m sure that soon I’ll sing and will act in films. What about you? Even there are no friends upstairs (well, this is by no means the main thing; she achieved everything with her labor).
  4. +26
    26 October 2015 06: 57
    In any kindergarten, such logos are stamped in bundles ;-)
    1. +1
      26 October 2015 08: 43
      laughing well said! good
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  6. +10
    26 October 2015 06: 58
    So the question arises: who is the greater “great combinator” —O. Bender or the Apostol strategic communications center?
    All clear
  7. +3
    26 October 2015 06: 59
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Some vomit, not a logo ...

    What is the head of the company - such is the logo. Money, money and nothing personal.
  8. +3
    26 October 2015 07: 01
    15 million flew into the bin.
    The logo is full of crap.

    In our web design studio in the city, the same logo can be made for 30-50 thousand rubles (or even more interesting than the one presented above).
  9. +3
    26 October 2015 07: 01
    Yes, wait a bit. There will definitely be a justified overestimate of the estimated cost.
    And the term is some kind of "branding", he alone probably costs 15 lyam.
  10. +1
    26 October 2015 07: 02
    I would not say that it is expensive for Moscow, but in the end it should have been a recognizable complex brand, and not just a blot.
  11. +7
    26 October 2015 07: 07
    Come on, now in Moscow there are no problems more important than the brand ... Yes, and the day of the city cost hundreds of millions. Not on social programs to spend them hi
    1. +5
      26 October 2015 08: 39
      You see, Moscow needs to be untwisted .. They don’t want to go to the capital at all.
      And with a new logo, people will stretch!
      1. +1
        26 October 2015 09: 59
        And what can people come here here and so are above the roof from all over the world, they still will not be able to live here, housing is available only to hundreds.
  12. +5
    26 October 2015 07: 12
    -So I can ...
    -What to play ..
    -Murka ..
    - Eh ... rings and bracelets, haven't I bought you ... smile
  13. +10
    26 October 2015 07: 14
    We do not understand anything in contemporary art! Doubtful logo for New Moscow for 15 million rubles



    And why is it here?
    This news has been glued on the YAP for almost a week, and finally it got to "Military review. "Awesome war news ...
    1. 0
      26 October 2015 14: 32
      That's why it’s awesome, that it took me a week.
  14. +2
    26 October 2015 07: 16
    Something like a liver. Slightly tucked in and turned. For 15 "lyamov" will ride :))). Hello New Vasyuki.
    1. 0
      26 October 2015 09: 57
      Quote: bandabas
      Something like a liver. Slightly tucked in and turned. For 15 "lyamov" will ride :))). Hello New Vasyuki.


      Moreover, the liver of cirrus. Kreakly pancake. MASCOW ...
  15. +9
    26 October 2015 07: 17
    Put a bottle for me and I’ll draw you 10 such a night. I will also explain the deep philosophical meaning of each
    1. +6
      26 October 2015 08: 04
      My grandson would draw the Spasskaya tower of the Kremlin, the eagle and the letter M without a bottle.
  16. +3
    26 October 2015 07: 20
    Pieces of a broken piece of something, that’s what this logo reminds me of, so to speak. I am completely at a loss !!!
    1. +2
      26 October 2015 08: 37
      Moscow is broken into tidbits, but of such a size that modern benders could not choke.
      1. +1
        26 October 2015 13: 07
        In Moscow, everything has been divided and privatized for a long time - strangers will not be allowed here.
    2. +3
      26 October 2015 08: 46
      The logo symbolizes the Trotskyist's dream.
      The polygon in the center is New Moscow, everything else is sovereign state.
  17. +2
    26 October 2015 07: 23
    It's a shame for the state. Sobyani with Bastrykin do not sleep, freeze. Where is the landing? am
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  19. +3
    26 October 2015 07: 27
    I wonder who is the customer? So they laughed from morning to earlier. If seriously, gentlemen snickered
    1. 0
      26 October 2015 09: 54
      Maskwa, maskwa, maskwa and "masquachi"!
      1. +1
        26 October 2015 11: 49
        I ask the native Muscovites not to be offended. We respect you in Petrograd. And "MaskvAchi" you know about whom. For example about Tina.
  20. +14
    26 October 2015 07: 28
    Such things should be done for free at a children's drawing contest or some other similar event. With wide public involvement. Many comers would like to participate just for the sake of recognition.

    But our creatures can only make money out of thin air. So disgusting that words can not describe!

    In general, it would not hurt to thin out the mask.
  21. +3
    26 October 2015 07: 39
    Quote: theadenter
    15 million flew into the bin.
    The logo is full of crap.

    Not in the ballot box, but in the right pockets! Corruption will ruin this country! What is easier is to declare an open competition, select from the committee a dozen sane and connect residents of the new Moscow (at least by phone, SMS). Provide leaders with valuable gifts and cash prizes . I assure you that 100-200 thousand would be enough. hi
    1. +1
      26 October 2015 12: 23
      I fully support. Everything should be as you say, normal.
  22. +6
    26 October 2015 07: 43
    There are no words! Thinking alone, and they are all obscene!
    1. 0
      26 October 2015 14: 39
      More precisely: Tatyana Akhmetova's dissertation on "Russian Mate" is not enough. To express thoughts and proposals.
  23. +4
    26 October 2015 08: 00
    AlNikolaichSlov no! Thinking alone, and they are all obscene!

    I support the opinion AlNikolaich good

    The Moscow Kremlin has always been a symbol of Moscow, and of all of Russia, too.
    It seems to me that the Kremlin’s Spasskaya Tower, stylized under the letter M, would have looked better. What do Muscovites think.
    The proposed Kandelaki logo is that, the logo of the Moscow drug mafia? fool angry
    1. -2
      26 October 2015 09: 49
      Moscow, Moscow ... I will not talk about Moscow, but about the COUNTRY. The logo is "Bat". And no towers. Earth ball.
  24. +1
    26 October 2015 08: 05
    This is not a logo, this is a test for tripophobia ... Fists are already starting to itch.
  25. Riv
    +5
    26 October 2015 08: 05
    Mdya ... Slightly warped Vysotsky:

    "I'm going to explode like three hundred tons of TNT.
    There is a charge of extra-creative evil in me.
    The muse visited me today
    She sat a little and left.

    She had good reason.
    I have no right to nag.
    Imagine: Muse at night and at Tina.
    God knows what people will say about her ... "
  26. +8
    26 October 2015 08: 19
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Some vomit, not a logo ...
    a few years ago, my daughter entered the budget department of design, draws well, took the exams together, and was very surprised by the number of expensive cars on the street, at first I even thought that I had a wrong address, it turned out that the rich for 2 -3 years (!) are preparing their child for preparatory department ... to pass the exam for the budget. Further more, after the first series of exams, the daughter went very well, even received praise from one of the members of the examination commission, but miracles do not happen, she did not go through the competition !!
    Would you see that misery that gave birth to those who passed through the competition ... laughing That's when I understood why in our country design is absent as a class wink
  27. +3
    26 October 2015 08: 33
    Oh, these "designers" are very talented. They call their talents - the ability to make money out of thin air.
  28. +2
    26 October 2015 08: 35
    Shadow of Skolkovo ...... As I understand it, they still saved because of the difficult situation in the country, I can imagine how much was rolled back
  29. +3
    26 October 2015 08: 42
    Tina and her team acted out another modest episode from the main play, which has not left the Russian stage for more than 25 years under the title "Everybody Steals ..."
    1. +2
      26 October 2015 09: 50
      Quote: akudr48
      Tina and her team acted out another modest episode from the main play, which has not left the Russian stage for more than 25 years under the title "Everybody Steals ..."


      And who is this Tina at all? Who called her? Did you miss her?
      No seriously. What is so famous for this next Georgian individual? Try to register the fund with the Fed and find out why the pound is dashing. And this please. (almost according to Bulgakov)
  30. +3
    26 October 2015 08: 42
    It is necessary to stop this altogether, at the legislative level. This is generally not work, it is not the creation of anything material. And thus it cannot be paid. Announce a competition among young designers, students, there will be thousands of projects, and the one who wins will receive a name, fame at the beginning of his career - this will be his reward.
    But ... This is no one needs, as the loot then take away ..?
  31. +4
    26 October 2015 08: 46
    Now it is clear what kind of "major repairs" are being collected from us every month for 1500 rubles + to the rent. Gomna pieces .... I really need these 1500!
    1. 0
      26 October 2015 13: 15
      I pay 2 for my 16000 huts.
      1. 0
        26 October 2015 13: 45
        I'm not talking about a communal apartment, but about the fact that each receipt now says "for major repairs" and the amount is about 1500. That is, from 2 apartments 3000.
        1. 0
          26 October 2015 16: 42
          That's just for 2 apartments and 5790 goes.
  32. +2
    26 October 2015 08: 55
    For the money you can develop a radar

    And Alexander Ageev from the fair-Russians - maybe they are digging up
  33. +5
    26 October 2015 08: 59
    And the Russian taxpayer paid for this horror? Such things should be done on a competitive basis for free, because the winner will raise his image. And who will answer for embezzlement? Is Russia so rich and nowhere to put money?
    1. 0
      26 October 2015 09: 45
      No matter how rich Russia is, this is not a reason for Ukraine not to repay its debts.
  34. +3
    26 October 2015 09: 01
    In my opinion, the logo is very suitable for today's Moscow.
    And the price is right. No, well, guys, all the enterprises of Russia have taken over the hands that foreigners did not like, they will not order a penny logo. The more expensive - the more beautiful, is it not clear. That is, the logo perfectly reflects the taste and values ​​of modern Moscow. Well, I would have painted these poop in rainbow colors, then it will definitely be.
  35. +1
    26 October 2015 09: 33
    Mowgli KZ Today, 07: 14 New
    We do not understand anything in contemporary art! Doubtful logo for New Moscow for 15 million rubles


    And why is it here?
    This news has been glued on the YaP for almost a week, and finally it got to the "Military Review". Awesome war news ...


    Very "For"!
    Soon, we will begin to discuss the weather, and any commercials about dishes and underwear ...
    Let's not stoop to that. There are VERY many other places to post similar news in the media.
    Or nothing at all to write about?
  36. +2
    26 October 2015 09: 33
    Quote: Mowgli
    We do not understand anything in contemporary art! Doubtful logo for New Moscow for 15 million rubles



    And why is it here?
    This news has been glued on the YAP for almost a week, and finally it got to "Military review. "Awesome war news ...


    That's when the civil war begins for a change of reference points, then this will be related to HE. In the meantime, they simply show people the possible reasons for the outbreak of this war. After all, this cannot go on forever, right? Everything has a direct and transparent connection, there is nothing to be indignant.
  37. +5
    26 October 2015 09: 39
    negative Well, actually Kozu HOW to color for 15 lyam - it's outrageous! Children would do better.
  38. 0
    26 October 2015 09: 39
    Quote: Hardy
    . the logo perfectly reflects the taste and values ​​of modern Moscow.

    I have already written that the word "Muscovite" will soon firmly take its place among the abusive ones. If they paid as much as 15 million for THIS! I think this is a test for lice, if Muscovites raise a booze, and for this story someone sits down (and the money will return to the treasury), or they silently eat it, then read the beginning of the commentary. negative hi
  39. +2
    26 October 2015 09: 43
    So, deputy Alexander Ageev sent a request to the prosecutor's office about the need to verify the prisoner between the “Apostle” (the name is quite according to Bender) and NIIP The general plan of Moscow.

    The one who "protects" Aestol in the Moscow City Hall answered Ageev's request something like this:
    "NIIPIT my brains"
    1. +3
      26 October 2015 10: 10
      Eh, not that Research Institute I wrote a dissertation ...
  40. +11
    26 October 2015 09: 55
    But 15 lyam for it ??? !!! Once again we were robbed!
  41. +2
    26 October 2015 09: 59
    Quote: Volzhanin
    Such things should be done for free at a children's drawing contest or some other similar event.

    1st place cake
    2 place chocolate
    3rd place yogurt
    to all other participants a consolation prize lollipop
    the event would cost 10-15 thousand
  42. +17
    26 October 2015 10: 01
    Such a logo may be from this series.
  43. +6
    26 October 2015 10: 11
    The scope is impressive, cut budget money as in the best European houses (and states too).

    That's what Bulgarian designers did for 1,4 million leva ($ 795 thousand) - stupidly stole the logo of Kyrgyzstan! Yours took at least something without copyright.
  44. +4
    26 October 2015 10: 27
    As the classic said, you need to take music from the people, and only process it. So I do.
    Therefore, when today you take from a composer - it is, in fact, you take from the people, you take from the people - you take from yourself, and the main thing is that the music is yours, and whoever says "plagiarism", I say "tradition".
    (c) "Bang-bang, oh-oh-oh!"
  45. +2
    26 October 2015 10: 42
    Quote: Polar
    So this Kandelaka is sucking off a state-ranked official who has the right to financially sign. Absolutely lost the creatures of the coast, live as if it was their last day

    Maybe it’s different ---, the desire to make friends with some Georgians, she has some kind of relatives there ...
    THIS YOK..Y logo --- SPIT on all residents, the whole country. Bullying !!
  46. +1
    26 October 2015 10: 47
    at that time there was a shortage of money in the country, Moscow got too busy. This is where the country's chief financial officer needs to look, not get into the pocket of ordinary citizens.
  47. +3
    26 October 2015 10: 48
    Bear in Odessa rejoices in the triumph of Georgian thought. The Georgians got everyone!
  48. +3
    26 October 2015 10: 54
    Full tryndets. More absurd and more terrible, I have never seen anything or anything. For such grandmothers Kandelaki had to draw with her pubis or what? fool
  49. +3
    26 October 2015 11: 02
    Well, what else did they expect from Kerimov's mistress? She was given a sports channel for a reason. She already had time with a professional team there, kicked out half. As a result, they will drag from Russia "all sorts of orzums, and from the NTV team of all sorts of hooters from Cherdantsev-geynichs. And we will get 30 matches of Anji, Terek and Zenith on the screen each season."
  50. +4
    26 October 2015 11: 24
    Deeply spit on Vasiliev --- an erotic "divorce"! He is in all countries ...
    And this is .... a logo. In another article about symbols, was that a symbol? Cities? A country with such a capital? Remove stars from the Kremlin? Who will live in a city with such a logo?
    LGBT? Fifth Column?
  51. +1
    26 October 2015 13: 55
    Pure, unadulterated, XNUMX% “drank and kickback”. The standard, you can go to the Chamber of Weights and Measures - one Kandelak, or - one Kandelak. Yes, there is also plagiarism, in general, “creative Russian business” in all its glory - using connections to receive and divide money, then, as an excuse, steal someone else’s property and pass it off as your own.
  52. +1
    26 October 2015 14: 17
    And replace the notorious pavement/curb with a granite one within the ring... the sum is billion...
    Without discussing the feasibility of such a “reconstruction”, Moscow ends up with natural granite, a wear-resistant element framing the road surface for “centuries”, so to speak!
    And this breed of creativity cannot be called anything other than second-hand design,
    This is not even art school level!
  53. 0
    26 October 2015 14: 39
    Well, comrades, have you let out your righteous anger? And that’s it... Tsar Comrade Vladimir is not in the aisles (as always), he has no time --- he needs to bang in Syria. And the fact that this Georgian viper will calmly put these straps in his pocket , we’re not used to this. Stool and Vasilyeva came out unscathed (and nothing, the people wiped themselves off, took off the spit and moved on with their lives), but here it’s all small things. Well, think about it... the whole country chipped in for bruliki and a sweet life for Tinochka !This is so cute, sorry for the sarcasm...
  54. +2
    26 October 2015 14: 58
    Yes, we all understand)))
  55. +1
    26 October 2015 15: 03
    I wonder how much they unfastened to win with such a logo???
  56. +1
    26 October 2015 15: 25
    “Why, with the proliferation of initiative groups of activists in Moscow, was there not at least one initiator of such a competition? at the public level?"...

    That’s why there is always no money for necessary, necessary things, but there is money for all kinds of cheromancy???

    And why, in fact, was the problem of the Moscow logo brought up to VO??? Show how budget money is spent??? So we all know this...

    PS Guys, who understands prices - tell me what could be done for the army for 15 million rubles???
    Yes, even for the garrison of the same Moscow, since we are talking about it???
    1. +1
      26 October 2015 16: 47
      For 15 million you can buy 110 body armor of 6A protection class or 15 day-night thermal imaging binoculars, or one X 59M Gadfly missile.
      1. 0
        26 October 2015 17: 51
        Quote: Vadim237
        For 15 million you can buy 110 body armor of 6A protection class or 15 day-night thermal imaging binoculars, or one X 59M Gadfly missile.



        Thanks for the information...

        It would be better if they bought thermal imaging binoculars... Yes, everything is better than what they paid for the logo...

        PS The binoculars and armor are not cheap... as good as a good one-room apartment... not in Moscow, of course...
  57. 0
    26 October 2015 15: 37
    Quote: Samaritan
    Military Review and YOU there too ??? Everyone has been discussing for the second week, tinder and slander ...

    Why was the person downvoted? That's right - the topic of the yellow newspaper, not TV!
  58. +3
    26 October 2015 15: 47
    Sorry....they rule the roost and unfortunately not only in design.
  59. +1
    26 October 2015 16: 19
    Reminiscent of a diagram for cutting up a cattle carcass.
  60. +3
    26 October 2015 17: 21
    Yes, people write that the article doesn’t seem to be on the topic of VO. I think the opposite. Patriotic education. I think the symbols should be such that it could be explained to a child, he would understand and be proud of this symbol, coat of arms, logo. This article with the article about the stars of the Kremlin is close.
    As for the chick and the minister, I don’t think it’s a question at all, look how many similar situations with chicks have happened in the world, starting with Clinton. Just recently something.
  61. +2
    26 October 2015 17: 22
    Shoot, that's business.
  62. +1
    26 October 2015 17: 26
    Most importantly, don’t forget to pay taxes, people’s money is like nobody’s money, so why save it?

    The logo is simply a masterpiece; only the completely blind cannot see the blatant squeeze of people's money. Maybe it would have been easier to hold a competition for a logo among kindergartens in Moscow??? for free . I think the result would be many times more beautiful, smarter and clearer.
  63. +1
    26 October 2015 18: 24
    Just like children, 15 million is nothing.
    Don’t you read anything else besides VO?
    Billions of dollars are being stolen in this country.
    I was amazed by the number of comments on the news about such petty theft.
    If the topic is interesting, Google it, or look around on the street...
  64. +3
    26 October 2015 18: 36
    If I knew that such a logo would win, my 4-year-old daughter would have won the tender.
  65. 0
    26 October 2015 21: 38
    So I looked at this logo, and then turned on Russia 24, and there Sobyanin is sitting in Putin’s office and Vladimir tells him...Moscow is the economic heart of the country.....
  66. +3
    26 October 2015 21: 51
    Of course, I don’t understand the lofty intentions of the “designers”. But, it seems to me that the theme of this “work” is the rough contours of New Moscow... I can create such logos for every city in our country for a fee fifteen times cheaper! laughing
  67. +1
    27 October 2015 00: 01
    The first thought when seeing this creation is a piece of shit In the image of an abstract artist.
  68. 0
    27 October 2015 02: 52
    http://www.craftsmanspace.com/Patterns%20ZIP/Mathematical%202d%20patterns/round_

    gradient_voronoi_2d_pattern.zip

    Really shabby picture... The free template was created more than 2 years (2013) ago. The only difference between the created one and the original one is the three combined small segments, which looked very uncivilized...

    Well, I actually didn’t expect anything else from the branch of the “Horns and Hooves” office...
  69. 0
    27 October 2015 04: 02
    If this were a general and free competition, such wonderful works would be submitted - I am sure of it.
  70. 0
    27 October 2015 04: 45
    I drank some dough, what can I talk about!
  71. 0
    27 October 2015 11: 20
    Quote: fa2998
    if Muscovites raise a fuss


    Who is asking Muscovites? Who cares what Russians think anyway? The authorities have repeatedly shown that they don’t care about public opinion. Now, if one of the bureaucrats offends a superior, then yes, it’s a disaster. And so....

    Example. How many architectural monuments have been demolished in Moscow? What didn't they defend? On the contrary, they fought - they stood pickets, wrote complaints to all authorities. What's the point?! It feels like the government is acting contrary to public opinion. Do you think that the Moscow Hotel should be preserved? So... for you, we'll demolish it and install a new one. If you think that the Russia Hotel should be preserved, then again... you. We will demolish it under a flimsy pretext and either demolish the park or build a parking lot.
  72. 0
    27 October 2015 17: 07
    Ominous logo. Simply explosive. ) It looks like a crooked F-1 grenade without a fuse. )