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Media: US mobile radars supplied to Ukraine cannot be used against the Russian Federation

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Modern radar systems supplied by Americans to Ukraine for the counter-battery struggle have been modified so that they cannot be used against the Russian Federation, reports Look with reference to The Wall Street Journal.


Media: US mobile radars supplied to Ukraine cannot be used against the Russian Federation


“The supplied radar systems are designed to fight against pro-Russian separatists,” writes the American newspaper and notes that “this modification provoked a barrage of criticism of the Republican leadership on the Obama administration, who called it an erroneous attempt to reassure Russian President Vladimir Putin.”

At the end of September, Obama signed a decree according to which, 2 radar counter-battery, worth $ 10 million each, will be transferred to Kiev. It is expected that they will arrive at the Yavorovsky proving ground in mid-November.

Washington does not want this equipment to cause an escalation of the conflict, so the radar power was reduced. Now they can not be used against Russia, explained the publication in the White House.

Senator McCain was the first to respond to this delivery, stating that modifications to attenuate radar are a symptom of Obama's “delusional vision”, who hopes to appease Putin in the hope that he “will change his behavior in Ukraine.”

He also stated: “This is part of their efforts to reassure Vladimir Putin. This sends a signal to Russia and Ukraine that we are not ready to seriously oppose the aggression of Vladimir Putin. ”

Help of the newspaper: "Counter-battery radar is mobile radar systems that allow you to track the location of the enemy's battery, based on the trajectory of the projectiles and missiles."
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  1. alex-cn
    alex-cn 23 October 2015 08: 41 New
    30
    Three already happened, one was burned, one was broken, one was drunk in the DPR ... How long will these last?
    1. Pavel Vereshchagin
      Pavel Vereshchagin 23 October 2015 08: 50 New
      15
      That's what banderlogs need to supply, not radar.
      1. slizhov
        slizhov 23 October 2015 10: 16 New
        0
        but it seems to me, loops soaked with wax ...
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 23 October 2015 08: 51 New
      10
      Quote: alex-cn
      Three already happened, one was burned, one was broken, one was drunk in the DPR ... How long will these last?

      I wonder how much they will pass THESE in colormet?
      http://topwar.ru/81814-s-yavorovskogo-poligona-lvovskaya-oblast-ukrali-amerikans
      kiy-radar.html #

      From Yavoriv training ground, located in the Lviv region, news comes not about the next stage of training for NSU soldiers by American instructors, but about the fact that the hand of enterprising citizens of the country reached the territory fenced with barbed wire.

      It turned out that two local residents managed to steal from a military training ground a radar from an American drone worth about 215 thousand dollars. Expensive American equipment was discovered after some time. It turned out that the residents of the Lviv region were going to turn in the radar for scrap. After the arrest, they stated that they had no idea what fell into their hands and that they were exclusively attracted to metal ...
      Or drop, or lose ... laughing
      1. Oman 47
        Oman 47 23 October 2015 11: 00 New
        +2
        Отправить поближе к Яворовскому полигону пару-тройку СПЕЦтаборов цыган-"металлистов". bully
        They will abduct and surrender ALL EVERYTHING, including the target environment and the BBM! belay
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 23 October 2015 08: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: alex-cn
      Three already happened, one was burned, one was broken, one was drunk in the DPR ... How long will these last?


      They won’t reach the front line, they will be sold at the port ...
      1. WKS
        WKS 23 October 2015 09: 17 New
        +4
        2 radar counter-battery, this is a very serious help. Now the Ukrainian army can launch an offensive on the entire front of the civil war with its own people.
        1. Niki
          Niki 23 October 2015 09: 28 New
          +4
          Did you forget the sarcasm smile?
          1. semuil
            semuil 23 October 2015 09: 42 New
            0
            Quote: Niki
            Did you forget the sarcasm smile?

            This is nothing for professionals. Have respect.
    4. _Lexa_
      _Lexa_ 23 October 2015 09: 00 New
      +3
      Today apricots deliver radars of one modification to Ukraine, and then it’s not a fact that they will reflash the modification at any time ... It's time to stop fighting, but they all supply! ..
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 23 October 2015 09: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: _Lexa_
        not the fact that the modification will be reflashed at any time ...

        Мне кажется что брехня это всё. Что значит "ослабление"? Артиллерия-то у ополчения и у ВС РФ принципиально ничем не отличается, если параметры РЛС снизить то она, в любом случае, будет менее эффективно работать.
        1. anderles66
          anderles66 23 October 2015 10: 14 New
          +2
          Вот я сразу подумал - а как эта система отличает "сепаратистов" от российских войск? Очевидно, что никак. Соответственно, эти успокаивающие заявление - очередной ничего не значащий бред. Особенно если учесть, что в официальной риторике "там" именно российские войска. Ну каша из бредятины. А что касается эффективности, я считаю, что это действительно опасно, особенно, если попрактиковаться в применении. Как бы ни относиться у укроповоинам, среди них не только . К тому же, непосредственную эксплуатацию могут осуществлять настоящие профессионалы из-за бугра.
    5. marlin1203
      marlin1203 23 October 2015 11: 32 New
      0
      Да все уже. Украинцам пора смриться с мыслью, что они "сыгранная партия". Причем с максимальными для себя потерями. А теперь "каждый за себя". Вот и посмотрим...
    6. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 23 October 2015 11: 54 New
      0
      Just keep them away .... Matches for children is not a toy ...
      Quote: alex-cn
      Three already happened, one was burned, one was broken, one was drunk in the DPR ... How long will these last?
  2. avvg
    avvg 23 October 2015 08: 41 New
    +4
    Вашингтон себя галочку ставит,что они помогают Порошенко,а "укропы" радуются,что получили на халяву, они могут использованы или не могут использованы их не интересует и все довольны.
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 23 October 2015 08: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: avvg
      Вашингтон себя галочку ставит,что они помогают Порошенко,а "укропы" радуются,что получили на халяву,работает или не работает их не интересует и все довольны.


      И козлища спокойны, и кайоты отметились "помощью". Благодать.
  3. Magic archer
    Magic archer 23 October 2015 08: 43 New
    +7
    Great news! Here you have dill expensive non-lethal weapons !!! Urrra !!! But here it is NOT possible to use it against Russia !!!)))) I represent the reaction in Kiev))))
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 23 October 2015 09: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Here you have dill expensive non-lethal weapons !!! Urrra !!! But here it is NOT possible to use it against Russia !!!))))Imagine the reaction in Kiev))))
      I wonder how Piglet will get out before her. He said on television Svidomo that in the Donbass the Russian army was at war exclusively, seven times it had already been completely destroyed. laughing And against Russia, these radars cannot be used. So who is he going to follow?

      Although, where Ukraine begins, the logic ends there - it will come up with something else ...
  4. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 23 October 2015 08: 43 New
    16
    US radars are not against Russia.
    US-ABM is not against Russia.
    USA-NW in Germany is not against Russia.
    Well, okay.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 23 October 2015 09: 04 New
      +7
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      US-ABM is not against Russia.

      But America was trying to explain to us that the missile defense radars in Poland do not follow us, but Iran. Well, the Americans will believe that their world ends behind the nearest hamburger, and we taught geography in a Soviet school, where on the map (and not only on the map!) Poland, and where Iran - we know ...

      Well, okay...
      good
    2. samoletil18
      samoletil18 23 October 2015 12: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Well, okay

      Let’s let Iran deploy their missiles in the Kaliningrad region. laughing
      But we need to think about EW funds for Donbass, although I hope that something has already been thought out in this direction, the Minsk agreements need to be reinforced with something.
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  5. valday
    valday 23 October 2015 08: 44 New
    +2
    Fresh tradition, but hard to believe.
  6. Tummyr
    Tummyr 23 October 2015 08: 44 New
    +3
    They don’t want the militia to have normal radars. Here are the gentlemen.
  7. Decathlon
    Decathlon 23 October 2015 08: 45 New
    +8
    "...стоимостью $ 10 млн. каждая..."
    Be i am a hohl belay (God forbid!), I would take it with money, because in radar - I'm a full oak !!!
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 23 October 2015 08: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Decathlon
      in radar - I'm a complete oak !!!


      Such radar systems are a great thing: one shot marks the coordinates of the position with a probability of 0,85, the second 0,97, and the third fire opens to kill - almost 100 percent destruction.
      No, well, if the distance is not 40 km
  8. Engineer
    Engineer 23 October 2015 08: 46 New
    +3
    Rather, they would get to the militia, and they already figure out the power of the radar
    1. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 23 October 2015 12: 14 New
      0
      Quote: Engineer
      Rather, they would get to the militia, and they already figure out the power of the radar

      You overestimate the independence and scientific and military potential of the militias.
  9. TT62
    TT62 23 October 2015 08: 48 New
    +4
    ABM is also not against Russia. Only Russia is against. In the hands of monkeys, everything is unpredictable.
  10. win
    win 23 October 2015 08: 49 New
    +3
    Зря американцы думают о себе "сверхлюдями". Голь на выдумку хитра. Хохлы что-нибудь придумают . Вспомните катапульты и рогатки. Ведь локатор может и скакать...
  11. fairmen
    fairmen 23 October 2015 08: 50 New
    +2
    McCain wanted to throw metal into hohland and he couldn’t believe that ukrovoins would drink it himself or break fools a glass horseradish for half an hour or break or lose
  12. Wedmak
    Wedmak 23 October 2015 08: 55 New
    +3
    And so, how will power reduction not allow them to be used against us? it is clear that our troops are not in the Donbass, but they will be able to drag them to the border and scan with impunity inland.
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 23 October 2015 09: 09 New
      +4
      Quote: Wedmak
      And so, how will power reduction not allow them to be used against us?

      This is news for people with brain damage. Either someone in this way made fun of a stupid journalist, or the journalist invented everything himself.
      It sounds like a joke:
      "-Полетите на солнце!
      -But we will burn!
      -Наверху не дураки сидят, полетите ночью..."
  13. nivander
    nivander 23 October 2015 09: 00 New
    +4
    and money from Ukrainians tore off in full
  14. ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 23 October 2015 09: 04 New
    +3
    They have Russian shells with a red marker on the display will be marked)) yes
  15. asar
    asar 23 October 2015 09: 11 New
    +1
    "The supplied radar systems are designed to fight against pro-Russian separatists,"

    What is it like? something I misunderstood here!
    Not against Russia, but against
    pro-Russian separatists
    !
    Аме.ры, вы со своей головой "дружите"? Али как?
    By God, abnormal (to say the least)!
    worth $ 10 million each. It is expected that they will arrive at the Yavorovsky training ground in mid-November.


    And the goblins in their underpants near the complexes (because they paid with the port)!
  16. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 23 October 2015 09: 12 New
    +6
    Straight pink and fluffy (and blue!).

    Radar "not against Russia".

    ПРО "not against Russia"

    Абрамсы в Прибалтике "not against Russia".

    В-61 в Германии "not against Russia".


    And against whom?
  17. jovanni
    jovanni 23 October 2015 09: 20 New
    +6
    Yes, it was necessary not to redo anything, not to weaken, but simply indicate in the specification how much precious metals are contained in the equipment. Nothing would have left beyond the Yavorov landfill. And everyone would be happy: they put the type and weapons to the Bandera, and Russia is not in danger ...
    1. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 23 October 2015 09: 42 New
      0
      Well said! Respect. smile
  18. Dejavu
    Dejavu 23 October 2015 09: 21 New
    +2
    Ниче ниче, "Калибры" тоже не против их авианосцев. Так.... летают себе мимо.
  19. Orionvit
    Orionvit 23 October 2015 09: 23 New
    +5
    Да ладно. В Запорожье на НПО "Искра" производят свои радары, и притом довольно неплохие. Но поскольку Киев денег не платит, а рабочие за "патриотизм" работать не хотят,вот и делают станции не для украины, а для Эфиопии, Судана, Вьетнама и.т.д. Эти хоть деньгами платят. Вот киев и доволен на халяву от америкосов. Вопрос в другом. Кто на этих американских станциях будет работать? Вы бы видели кого сейчас призывают в армию на украине. Не то, что автомат, лопату нельзя доверить. Так что пусть радуются подаркам, всё равно или пропьют, или сломают, или потеряют.
  20. rafaelich
    rafaelich 23 October 2015 09: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: Wedmak
    they can pull them to the border and scan with impunity inland.

    Are you kidding or crap? Well, they’ll drag, well, they’ll turn on what? .. We don’t shoot at them with artillery ...
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 23 October 2015 10: 07 New
      0
      We do not shoot at them with artillery ...

      Can you guarantee that this is precisely and only the anti-artillery complex? There is no guarantee that, instead of the said systems, intelligence will be dragged. And the Americans will work for them in embroidered shirts.
      1. rafaelich
        rafaelich 23 October 2015 14: 10 New
        0
        What will they scout? And most importantly than from the ground then?
        About NATO flights at our borders do not know?
  21. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 23 October 2015 09: 27 New
    +5
    You can joke on the curvature and venality of Ukrainians as much as you like. But the fact remains: the supplies of modern weapons are officially made to Ukraine. And this is very bad. Such equipment is not supplied to participate in parades or gather dust in a warehouse. In the fact of delivery, I see intentions to continue the armed conflict in the Donbass. And, I'm afraid that these radars will still do misfortunes.
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 23 October 2015 13: 29 New
      +1
      That photo is pocket trash. Go to the website iskra.zp.ua. True, this is still the development of the Soviet era, but it works properly. And as for high-tech equipment, as I already wrote, in the Ukrainian army of specialists there are one or two specialists and nichrome.
  22. nrex
    nrex 23 October 2015 09: 34 New
    +2
    To say and do is not the same thing. In Europe, the stripes are deploying missile defense also not aimed against Russia.
  23. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
    Vladimir Pozlnyakov 23 October 2015 09: 37 New
    +2
    Папандопуло в "Свадьбе в Малиновке":
    "Ты знаешь, сколько у нас пулеметов? Семь! Нет, шесть… Один заедает, другой, как сумасшедший, подпрыгивает, а третий гад в своих пуляет. А седьмой я по секрету от пана атамана выменял на эти вот штанишки"!
  24. semuil
    semuil 23 October 2015 09: 38 New
    0
    Quote: Niki
    Did you forget the sarcasm smile?

    This is nothing for the specialists. Have respect. laughing
  25. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 October 2015 09: 39 New
    +1
    No, well, pinned on a journalist. ANY radar can be used against anyone, those more counter-battery.
    Артиллерия с такими гаджетами становится более оперативной. Засекает позицию и дает "ответку" через минуту. Но у ополченцев наши "Аистята" давно стоят, а пара радаров ближнего действия войну не выиграют. Хотя и бед наделать могут. только засекаются такие радары - на раз-два. Если есть чем. А защиты ни у них, ни у расчета...
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 23 October 2015 13: 41 New
      +1
      By the way, if you remember in Slavyansk they also dragged the anti-battery radar. Ukrainians thought cool, but militiamen burned him right there. He was then dragged to the factory for repairs. The sight will tell you the sad. So do not worry, in the Ukrainian army like the Arabs, if something more complicated than Kalashnikov either does not work, or works very poorly.
  26. Victor-M
    Victor-M 23 October 2015 09: 43 New
    +1
    Modern radar systems supplied by the Americans to Ukraine for counter-battery combat are modified in such a way that they cannot be used against the Russian Federation. The supplied radar systems are designed to fight against pro-Russian separatists ”

    Is it written exactly in the instructions for use? belay It is amazing to what heights the science has jumped, it can be distinguished within a few kilometers from a person or unit belonging to a certain region or nationality. But it’s interesting, can these radars be used against Ukrainian banderlogs and their American trainers? what laughing
  27. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 23 October 2015 09: 54 New
    +8
    And from my point of view, it’s more like throwing firewood into a dying bonfire. Locators are here, 50 tons of cargo are here ... and smoldering everywhere. And we spend money, time and attention on extinguishing foci. And these ... bad people, they’re plotting somewhere else. Amerikos really hope for two oceans cutting them off from the whole world, perhaps in vain. For example, in the event of an epidemic, it will be more difficult to dump.
  28. engineer74
    engineer74 23 October 2015 10: 00 New
    0
    Надо тоже, что нибудь "нелетальное" поставить "не против ВСУ, а против праворадикальных экстремистов"!
  29. nrex
    nrex 23 October 2015 10: 06 New
    +3
    Я поддержу слова о стебе в отношении укров.Не надо стебаться. То что они выглядят неприглядными на поле боя в Домбасе заслуга истинных патриотов своей страны, профессиональных военных, которые саботируют военную операцию СБУ разными способами. Вы посмотрите сколько людей с украинскими фамилиями занимают ответственные должности в нашей стране и невыглядят они глупыми поедателями сала. Армия без головы - это стадо. Поэтому давайте скажем СПАСИБО людям которые делают тихо свое дело, не боясь угрозы для своей жизни и жизни своих близких. Не будем обобщать и навешивать на всех один ярлык. Есть обстаятельства сильнее людей, но и в этих жизненых условиях они смогли остаться людьми. Мы возможно не когда не узнаем их фамилий, но то что они сделали и делают это героизм. Ребятам отстаивающим Донбасс без такой "тихой" поддержки было бы значительно труднее. И как пример о значении даже одного человека - на что была похожа Россия при Пьяном Боре и Меченом Майкле ?
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 23 October 2015 16: 30 New
      +1
      And how many people with Russian surnames in Ukraine rule. Where is the truth? Case in Last Name?
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 23 October 2015 16: 49 New
      0
      Адекватные люди, здесь на украине живут в откровенно в оккупации. И всех под одну гребёнку пожалуйста не надо. Запад украины, не наши люди. Но на востоке, ещё поборемся. Как у Высоцкого " Настоящих буйных мало, вот и нету вожака", но и нет лидера.
  30. HAM
    HAM 23 October 2015 11: 39 New
    +1
    Насчёт снижения мощности радара--это для очень несведущих,мощность как можно снизить так и увеличить,"кулибиных"у хохлов достаточно,так что ЭТО очередная "лапша" от Белого дома..
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 23 October 2015 16: 37 New
      0
      This is trash from the white house. Looks like a field kitchen.
  31. pts-m
    pts-m 23 October 2015 12: 46 New
    0
    but the coughing is not invisible. fools will turn the screws, the yaks are pre-marked by their friends pin.dosas. power will be added so that their “ducks” in flight will turn green before the eyes of the participants in the attu-atu.
  32. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 23 October 2015 14: 29 New
    +1
    Why steal American radar? laughing

    "Then to temyu they will be pressed, then they will be pinched on the tail,
    That sniffs them, then licks them
    "

    (Krylov).