Media: US mobile radars supplied to Ukraine cannot be used against the Russian Federation

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Modern radar systems supplied by Americans to Ukraine for the counter-battery struggle have been modified so that they cannot be used against the Russian Federation, reports Look with reference to The Wall Street Journal.

Media: US mobile radars supplied to Ukraine cannot be used against the Russian Federation


“The supplied radar systems are designed to fight against pro-Russian separatists,” writes the American newspaper and notes that “this modification provoked a barrage of criticism of the Republican leadership on the Obama administration, who called it an erroneous attempt to reassure Russian President Vladimir Putin.”

At the end of September, Obama signed a decree according to which, 2 radar counter-battery, worth $ 10 million each, will be transferred to Kiev. It is expected that they will arrive at the Yavorovsky proving ground in mid-November.

Washington does not want this equipment to cause an escalation of the conflict, so the radar power was reduced. Now they can not be used against Russia, explained the publication in the White House.

Senator McCain was the first to respond to this delivery, stating that modifications to attenuate radar are a symptom of Obama's “delusional vision”, who hopes to appease Putin in the hope that he “will change his behavior in Ukraine.”

He also stated: “This is part of their efforts to reassure Vladimir Putin. This sends a signal to Russia and Ukraine that we are not ready to seriously oppose the aggression of Vladimir Putin. ”

Help of the newspaper: "Counter-battery radar is mobile radar systems that allow you to track the location of the enemy's battery, based on the trajectory of the projectiles and missiles."
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  1. +30
    23 October 2015 08: 41
    Three already happened, one was burned, one was broken, one was drunk in the DPR ... How long will these last?
    1. +15
      23 October 2015 08: 50
      That's what banderlogs need to supply, not radar.
      1. 0
        23 October 2015 10: 16
        but it seems to me, loops soaked with wax ...
    2. +10
      23 October 2015 08: 51
      Quote: alex-cn
      Three already happened, one was burned, one was broken, one was drunk in the DPR ... How long will these last?

      I wonder how much they will pass THESE in colormet?
      http://topwar.ru/81814-s-yavorovskogo-poligona-lvovskaya-oblast-ukrali-amerikans
      kiy-radar.html #

      From Yavoriv training ground, located in the Lviv region, news comes not about the next stage of training for NSU soldiers by American instructors, but about the fact that the hand of enterprising citizens of the country reached the territory fenced with barbed wire.

      It turned out that two local residents managed to steal from a military training ground a radar from an American drone worth about 215 thousand dollars. Expensive American equipment was discovered after some time. It turned out that the residents of the Lviv region were going to turn in the radar for scrap. After the arrest, they stated that they had no idea what fell into their hands and that they were exclusively attracted to metal ...
      Or drop, or lose ... laughing
      1. +2
        23 October 2015 11: 00
        Send a couple of special sets of gypsy "metalworkers" closer to the Yavoriv training ground. bully
        They will abduct and surrender ALL EVERYTHING, including the target environment and the BBM! belay
    3. +2
      23 October 2015 08: 54
      Quote: alex-cn
      Three already happened, one was burned, one was broken, one was drunk in the DPR ... How long will these last?


      They won’t reach the front line, they will be sold at the port ...
      1. WKS
        +4
        23 October 2015 09: 17
        2 radar counter-battery, this is a very serious help. Now the Ukrainian army can launch an offensive on the entire front of the civil war with its own people.
        1. +4
          23 October 2015 09: 28
          Did you forget the sarcasm smile?
          1. 0
            23 October 2015 09: 42
            Quote: Niki
            Did you forget the sarcasm smile?

            This is nothing for professionals. Have respect.
    4. +3
      23 October 2015 09: 00
      Today apricots deliver radars of one modification to Ukraine, and then it’s not a fact that they will reflash the modification at any time ... It's time to stop fighting, but they all supply! ..
      1. +2
        23 October 2015 09: 29
        Quote: _Lexa_
        not the fact that the modification will be reflashed at any time ...

        It seems to me that this is all nonsense. What does "weakening" mean? The artillery of the militia and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is fundamentally no different, if the parameters of the radar are reduced, then, in any case, it will work less effectively.
        1. +2
          23 October 2015 10: 14
          So I immediately thought - how does this system distinguish "separatists" from Russian troops? Obviously not. Accordingly, these calming statements are just another meaningless nonsense. Especially when you consider that in the official rhetoric "there" it is the Russian troops. Well, porridge made of delirium. And as far as efficiency goes, I think it's really dangerous, especially if you practice it. Whatever the attitude of the dill warriors, not only among them. In addition, real professionals from over the hill can carry out direct operation.
    5. 0
      23 October 2015 11: 32
      Yes, everything is already. It is time for Ukrainians to face the thought that they are a "played game". And with maximum losses for yourself. And now "every man for himself". Let's see ...
    6. 0
      23 October 2015 11: 54
      Just keep them away .... Matches for children is not a toy ...
      Quote: alex-cn
      Three already happened, one was burned, one was broken, one was drunk in the DPR ... How long will these last?
  2. +4
    23 October 2015 08: 41
    Washington ticks itself off that they are helping Poroshenko, and the "dill" are happy that they got it for free, they can or cannot be used, they are not interested and everyone is happy.
    1. +3
      23 October 2015 08: 56
      Quote: avvg
      Washington ticks itself off that they are helping Poroshenko, and the "dill" are happy that they got it for free, they are not interested in working or not working, and everyone is happy.


      And the goats are calm, and the coyotes were marked with "help". Grace.
  3. +7
    23 October 2015 08: 43
    Great news! Here you have dill expensive non-lethal weapons !!! Urrra !!! But here it is NOT possible to use it against Russia !!!)))) I represent the reaction in Kiev))))
    1. +3
      23 October 2015 09: 09
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Here you have dill expensive non-lethal weapons !!! Urrra !!! But here it is NOT possible to use it against Russia !!!))))Imagine the reaction in Kiev))))
      I wonder how Piglet will get out before her. He said on television Svidomo that in the Donbass the Russian army was at war exclusively, seven times it had already been completely destroyed. laughing And against Russia, these radars cannot be used. So who is he going to follow?

      Although, where Ukraine begins, the logic ends there - it will come up with something else ...
  4. +16
    23 October 2015 08: 43
    US radars are not against Russia.
    US-ABM is not against Russia.
    USA-NW in Germany is not against Russia.
    Well, okay.
    1. +7
      23 October 2015 09: 04
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      US-ABM is not against Russia.

      But America was trying to explain to us that the missile defense radars in Poland do not follow us, but Iran. Well, the Americans will believe that their world ends behind the nearest hamburger, and we taught geography in a Soviet school, where on the map (and not only on the map!) Poland, and where Iran - we know ...

      Well, okay...
      good
    2. +2
      23 October 2015 12: 13
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Well, okay

      Let’s let Iran deploy their missiles in the Kaliningrad region. laughing
      But we need to think about EW funds for Donbass, although I hope that something has already been thought out in this direction, the Minsk agreements need to be reinforced with something.
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  5. +2
    23 October 2015 08: 44
    Fresh tradition, but hard to believe.
  6. +3
    23 October 2015 08: 44
    They don’t want the militia to have normal radars. Here are the gentlemen.
  7. +8
    23 October 2015 08: 45
    "... worth $ 10 million each ..."
    Be i am a hohl belay (God forbid!), I would take it with money, because in radar - I'm a full oak !!!
    1. +1
      23 October 2015 08: 59
      Quote: Decathlon
      in radar - I'm a complete oak !!!


      Such radar systems are a great thing: one shot marks the coordinates of the position with a probability of 0,85, the second 0,97, and the third fire opens to kill - almost 100 percent destruction.
      No, well, if the distance is not 40 km
  8. +3
    23 October 2015 08: 46
    Rather, they would get to the militia, and they already figure out the power of the radar
    1. 0
      23 October 2015 12: 14
      Quote: Engineer
      Rather, they would get to the militia, and they already figure out the power of the radar

      You overestimate the independence and scientific and military potential of the militias.
  9. +4
    23 October 2015 08: 48
    ABM is also not against Russia. Only Russia is against. In the hands of monkeys, everything is unpredictable.
  10. win
    +3
    23 October 2015 08: 49
    In vain do Americans think of themselves as "supermen". Need for invention is cunning. Ukrainians will think of something. Think of catapults and slingshots. After all, the locator can jump ...
  11. +2
    23 October 2015 08: 50
    McCain wanted to throw metal into hohland and he couldn’t believe that ukrovoins would drink it himself or break fools a glass horseradish for half an hour or break or lose
  12. +3
    23 October 2015 08: 55
    And so, how will power reduction not allow them to be used against us? it is clear that our troops are not in the Donbass, but they will be able to drag them to the border and scan with impunity inland.
    1. +4
      23 October 2015 09: 09
      Quote: Wedmak
      And so, how will power reduction not allow them to be used against us?

      This is news for people with brain damage. Either someone in this way made fun of a stupid journalist, or the journalist invented everything himself.
      It sounds like a joke:
      "-Fly into the sun!
      -But we will burn!
      -No fools are sitting at the top, fly at night ... "
  13. +4
    23 October 2015 09: 00
    and money from Ukrainians tore off in full
  14. +3
    23 October 2015 09: 04
    They have Russian shells with a red marker on the display will be marked)) Yes
  15. +1
    23 October 2015 09: 11
    "The supplied radar systems are designed to fight against pro-Russian separatists,"

    What is it like? something I misunderstood here!
    Not against Russia, but against
    pro-Russian separatists
    !
    Ame.ry, are you "friends" with your head? Ali how?
    By God, abnormal (to say the least)!
    worth $ 10 million each. It is expected that they will arrive at the Yavorovsky training ground in mid-November.


    And the goblins in their underpants near the complexes (because they paid with the port)!
  16. +6
    23 October 2015 09: 12
    Straight pink and fluffy (and blue!).

    Radar "not against Russia".

    Missile defense "not against Russia"

    Abrams in the Baltics "not against Russia".

    B-61 in Germany "not against Russia".


    And against whom?
  17. +6
    23 October 2015 09: 20
    Yes, it was necessary not to redo anything, not to weaken, but simply indicate in the specification how much precious metals are contained in the equipment. Nothing would have left beyond the Yavorov landfill. And everyone would be happy: they put the type and weapons to the Bandera, and Russia is not in danger ...
    1. 0
      23 October 2015 09: 42
      Well said! Respect. smile
  18. +2
    23 October 2015 09: 21
    Nothing, "Caliber" is also not against their aircraft carriers. So .... fly past yourself.
  19. +5
    23 October 2015 09: 23
    Come on. In Zaporozhye, NPO Iskra produces their own radars, and, moreover, they are quite good ones. But since Kiev does not pay money, and the workers do not want to work for "patriotism", so they make stations not for Ukraine, but for Ethiopia, Sudan, Vietnam, etc. They even pay with money. Here are Kiev and are happy with a freebie from the amerikosov. The question is different. Who will work at these American stations? You should have seen who is now being drafted into the army in Ukraine. Not like a machine gun, a shovel cannot be trusted. So let them rejoice at the gifts, it doesn't matter if they drink it, or break it, or lose it.
  20. +1
    23 October 2015 09: 26
    Quote: Wedmak
    they can pull them to the border and scan with impunity inland.

    Are you kidding or crap? Well, they’ll drag, well, they’ll turn on what? .. We don’t shoot at them with artillery ...
    1. 0
      23 October 2015 10: 07
      We do not shoot at them with artillery ...

      Can you guarantee that this is precisely and only the anti-artillery complex? There is no guarantee that, instead of the said systems, intelligence will be dragged. And the Americans will work for them in embroidered shirts.
      1. 0
        23 October 2015 14: 10
        What will they scout? And most importantly than from the ground then?
        About NATO flights at our borders do not know?
  21. +5
    23 October 2015 09: 27
    You can joke on the curvature and venality of Ukrainians as much as you like. But the fact remains: the supplies of modern weapons are officially made to Ukraine. And this is very bad. Such equipment is not supplied to participate in parades or gather dust in a warehouse. In the fact of delivery, I see intentions to continue the armed conflict in the Donbass. And, I'm afraid that these radars will still do misfortunes.
    1. +1
      23 October 2015 13: 29
      That photo is pocket trash. Go to the website iskra.zp.ua. True, this is still the development of the Soviet era, but it works properly. And as for high-tech equipment, as I already wrote, in the Ukrainian army of specialists there are one or two specialists and nichrome.
  22. +2
    23 October 2015 09: 34
    To say and do is not the same thing. In Europe, the stripes are deploying missile defense also not aimed against Russia.
  23. +2
    23 October 2015 09: 37
    Papandopulo in "Wedding in Malinovka":
    "Do you know how many machine guns we have? Seven! No, six ... One seizes, the other jumps like a madman, and the third reptile in his own bullets. And I secretly traded the seventh from Pan Ataman for these pants!"
  24. 0
    23 October 2015 09: 38
    Quote: Niki
    Did you forget the sarcasm smile?

    This is nothing for the specialists. Have respect. laughing
  25. +1
    23 October 2015 09: 39
    No, well, pinned on a journalist. ANY radar can be used against anyone, those more counter-battery.
    Artillery with such gadgets becomes more operational. He detects the position and gives a "reply" in a minute. But our "Aistyats" have been with the militia for a long time, and a couple of short-range radars will not win the war. Although they can do troubles. only such radars are detected - for one or two. If you have something. And neither they nor the crew have protection ...
    1. +1
      23 October 2015 13: 41
      By the way, if you remember in Slavyansk they also dragged the anti-battery radar. Ukrainians thought cool, but militiamen burned him right there. He was then dragged to the factory for repairs. The sight will tell you the sad. So do not worry, in the Ukrainian army like the Arabs, if something more complicated than Kalashnikov either does not work, or works very poorly.
  26. +1
    23 October 2015 09: 43
    Modern radar systems supplied by the Americans to Ukraine for counter-battery combat are modified in such a way that they cannot be used against the Russian Federation. The supplied radar systems are designed to fight against pro-Russian separatists ”

    Is it written exactly in the instructions for use? belay It is amazing to what heights the science has jumped, it can be distinguished within a few kilometers from a person or unit belonging to a certain region or nationality. But it’s interesting, can these radars be used against Ukrainian banderlogs and their American trainers? what laughing
  27. +8
    23 October 2015 09: 54
    And from my point of view, it’s more like throwing firewood into a dying bonfire. Locators are here, 50 tons of cargo are here ... and smoldering everywhere. And we spend money, time and attention on extinguishing foci. And these ... bad people, they’re plotting somewhere else. Amerikos really hope for two oceans cutting them off from the whole world, perhaps in vain. For example, in the event of an epidemic, it will be more difficult to dump.
  28. 0
    23 October 2015 10: 00
    We must also put something “non-lethal” “not against the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but against right-wing extremists”!
  29. +3
    23 October 2015 10: 06
    I will support the words about mockery in relation to ukrov.Ne need to mock. The fact that they look unsightly on the battlefield in Dombas is the merit of the true patriots of their country, professional military men who sabotage the military operation of the SBU in various ways. Look how many people with Ukrainian surnames occupy important positions in our country and they don't look like stupid lard eaters. An army without a head is a herd. Therefore, let's say THANK YOU to people who do their job quietly, without fear of threats to their lives and the lives of their loved ones. We will not generalize and hang one label on everyone. There are circumstances stronger than people, but in these living conditions they were able to remain people. We may not when we do not know their names, but what they did and are doing is heroism. It would be much more difficult for the guys defending Donbass without such "quiet" support. And as an example of the importance of even one person - what was Russia like under Drunk Bor and Marked Michael?
    1. +1
      23 October 2015 16: 30
      And how many people with Russian surnames in Ukraine rule. Where is the truth? Case in Last Name?
    2. 0
      23 October 2015 16: 49
      Adequate people here in Ukraine live in frankly under occupation. And one size fits all, please do not. The West of Ukraine, not our people. But in the east, we will still fight. Like Vysotsky, "There are few real violent, so there is no leader," but there is no leader either.
  30. HAM
    +1
    23 October 2015 11: 39
    As for reducing the power of the radar, this is for the very ignorant, the power can be reduced or increased, the Ukrainians have enough "Kulibins", so THIS IS another "noodle" from the White House ..
    1. 0
      23 October 2015 16: 37
      This is trash from the white house. Looks like a field kitchen.
  31. 0
    23 October 2015 12: 46
    but the coughing is not invisible. fools will turn the screws, the yaks are pre-marked by their friends pin.dosas. power will be added so that their “ducks” in flight will turn green before the eyes of the participants in the attu-atu.
  32. +1
    23 October 2015 14: 29
    Why steal American radar? laughing

    "Then to temyu they will be pressed, then they will be pinched on the tail,
    That sniffs them, then licks them
    "

    (Krylov).