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The indigenization of the XXI century: is everything so bad with the Russian language in Belarus?

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The problem of the oppression of the Russian-speaking population, which is acute in the Baltic States and in Ukraine, has been pushed into the background in Belarusian cities and villages. The reason is simple: there is no one to do this. While political scientists are singing laudatory odes to the Farther and his social policy programs, the “Belarusian movement” very slowly, but systematically and progressively replaces the great and mighty in the most vulnerable areas. And it seems that the process has been launched seriously and for a long time.


Everything went too far

After the election of 2010 of the year, which ended in a major scuffle of the opposition and law enforcement officers, Lukashenko apparently decided that he could and should play with this public. Several difficult years were not without difficulty experienced, and as soon as there was a softening of sanctions, the head of the Belarusian state with an open shirt went to contacts with the West.

Nevertheless, the Old Man controls the political situation in the country with all 100%: obviously, economically and financially Belarus completely depends on Russia, and therefore it cannot and will not make a sharp breakthrough towards the European Union (there is already an unenviable example just south). The aksakal in the geopolitical space of the CIS has been balancing on the very brink of 20 for years, and so it is, that it even commands respect.

But in terms of the ethnic-linguistic culture, in the context of the friendship of nations, which the Belarusian people have always been famous for, Lukashenko has inadmissibly made it possible for the opposition elements to be done. It is unlikely that he initiated the changes that are now taking place in society - rather, he looked at it as an opportunity to receive political dividends from the USA and Europe, and also split the opposition (which he managed more than once and not even two). In general, I wanted the best for myself, but the real occasion came out.

Planned de-Russification

First out of the ordinary news It became the news that the training of certain subjects in Belarus will be conducted exclusively on the Move. Let us quote the Minister of Education of the Republic of Belarus Mikhail Zhuravkov: “To study the geography and history Belarus, of course, is necessary in the Belarusian language. I think that gradually the children themselves will come to the fact that they want to study half or most of the subjects of secondary school in the Belarusian language. ”

Let us leave aside the question of the richness and historicity of the Belarusian language - be that as it may, in this respect it is much inferior to its Russian brother. So, the study of two or more languages ​​is always commendable, and if a student wants to study in the native move, he can be given every opportunity for this, but why force absolutely Russian-speaking children to learn in a language that they do not understand a little more than completely?

Go ahead. Signs, banners, signs — the streets of Belarusian cities in recent years have been de-Russified “quietly,” without too much hype. And the most amazing thing is that the population is getting used to it and is calm. The exception is commercial advertising - it is obvious that it will be better conveyed to the potential audience in a language that it understands. But she will not be able to compete with state propaganda at her level.




Another ambitious and extravagant project from Belarusisers is an introduction to the use of “lazinki”, still the same language, only when using a Latin font. It is already with enviable frequency used in public signposts. In the Minsk metro you can read the station names in three dialects at once - Belarusian, Belarusian “Latina” and even English (despite the fact that the majority of tourists come not from the West, but from the East). The question is where the main language of the country, which is used by its president, remains open.




Do you think Belarusian inscriptions are duplicated in English? But no, in English there are no letters with "gachekami" Š, Č and Ŭ. And what is it? And this is the so-called "Latsinka" - the Belarusian language in Latin spelling. The citizens of Belarus gradually, slowly began to teach Latin. When they get used to it, you can enter.
Vyacheslav Kondratyev, http://vikond65.livejournal.com/401140.html.


Games with fire

Attempts to pull the title of “independent rascal” from Poznyak, Statkevich and anyone from the Belarusian opposition to themselves hardly paint Lukashenko and speak about him from the best side. But what is worse, the measures with which he at least does not interfere, lead to the undermining of statehood and the development of soil for a pro-Western coup. Even if he wears an embroidered shirt and speaks only on the move, it still does not add to the Old Man sympathies from the always dissatisfied rogues. It remains only unobtrusively to explain this fact to him ...
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  1. By001261
    By001261 23 October 2015 06: 38 New
    +7
    I set a minus article, I was born and raised in Belarus, and even with the union there were objects in the Belarusian language, you should not make Russophobes from Belarusians, this is far from the case!
    1. hedgehog in the fog
      hedgehog in the fog 23 October 2015 07: 06 New
      +1
      I agree with you 100%, well, yes, signs in Belarus in the Belarusian language do you think this is bad? the author does not kindle a national conflict
      1. oblako
        oblako 23 October 2015 07: 38 New
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        The old man himself does not know the Belarusian language and speaks Russian with an accent. On the other hand, after Ukraine, Belarusian phobia begins, judging by the article. Judging by myself, I used to listen to songs in Ukrainian with affection, admired its melodiousness. Now I have a different attitude towards him, different associations. But we must understand that these are emotional assessments, at the level of reflexes. We are rightly frightened by the absence of plates duplicated in Russian in the republics of our union, this is where the demarcation begins, but similar processes are going on inside Russia. In Tatarstan, for example. But the striving of nations for self-identification must be respected, just a measure is needed in everything. If we are together, then dub it in Russian and in this sense, "before uniting, we must decisively dissociate ourselves" in the words of a famous classic ... Old Man, in my opinion, spoke about this more than once, but the Latin alphabet is for tourists.
        1. Morrrow
          Morrrow 23 October 2015 10: 07 New
          +8
          Will you respect the desire for self-determination of Novgorodians and Smolensk residents, for example? Ches they worse Belarusians?
        2. Rusich is not from Kiev
          Rusich is not from Kiev 23 October 2015 17: 09 New
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          Quote: oblako
          but similar processes are going on inside Russia. In Tatarstan, for example.

          Enlighten. I was in Kazan and Elabuga, all in two languages.
        3. lesnik1978
          lesnik1978 23 October 2015 18: 28 New
          +3
          Old Man himself from Ukraine, from the Chernihiv region. he is not Belarusian, he is Ukrainian.
          1. Rarog
            Rarog 24 October 2015 12: 45 New
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            Where did the Ukrainians and Belarusians come from if their ancestors (minus a few Poles, Hungarians, Romanians, Tatars, Jews, etc.) were overwhelmingly Rus / Rosami / Rusichi / Rosichi / Russky /
            1. Rarog
              Rarog 24 October 2015 12: 56 New
              +2
              They funny edited my post, leaving only the first sentence, and even then not completely. In it (the post) there were only calls to ensure that we would not forget that we are not just fraternal peoples. we are One People! I would like to know the reason for such an unscrupulous revision of my words.
            2. Director
              Director 24 October 2015 17: 05 New
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              The question must be posed correctly. Where did the modern Russians come from. Modern Belarusians and Ukrainians are descendants of Kievan Rus. And the Russians are Slavic Ugro-Finns.
              1. Rarog
                Rarog 24 October 2015 20: 04 New
                +1
                DNA genealogy to help you, if simple common sense and historical reality are alien to you. This science has debunked Russophobic myths, one of which you are broadcasting here.
                And if you also connect anthropology, then to some so-called so-called Ukrainians will have questions - with what fright they generally attribute themselves to the Slavs.
              2. Rarog
                Rarog 24 October 2015 20: 22 New
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                Quote: Director
                ... Modern Belarusians and Ukrainians are descendants of Kievan Rus ...


                So be consistent in your judgments and call yourself by the name of your ancestors - Rus / Ros / Rusich / Rosich / Rus / Russian, and do not invent an alternative history and name for yourself. And on the issue of the Russianness of Russians from Russia, as I said above, history, archeology, anthropology, DNA genealogy will help you. Or won't it help? Comics about "ukrov" and "litvinov" from the Anglo-Saxons warm the soul better ?!
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      3. Conductor
        Conductor 23 October 2015 08: 19 New
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        The article was written by paranoid. 100% INFA. So the names of streets, metro stations and attractions are written in one of the state historically established languages ​​and duplicated
        Belarusian "latin"
        is it bad? Latina was generally launched during the World Hockey Championship so that tourists can navigate. Even in our rather difficult time for Belarus, talking about some infringement of Russian-speaking and Russians in particular is complete nonsense! Russia and pick up loans (the habit of doing this is still preserved) all historical symbols replaced incomprehensibly than
        PS apparently
        Ivan Gorshenev, Belarus
        not from Belarus at all: D
        they would still remember 1996 ...
        1. Conductor
          Conductor 23 October 2015 08: 37 New
          -14
          It turns out that the author "prohibits" a sovereign state to promote its nat. the language that was "pushed" into the background in the 90s? The consequences, I think, are known




          1. Your friend
            Your friend 23 October 2015 13: 35 New
            +7
            Seriously? These "well-known consequences" were due to the fact that "your own national language, which was" pushed "into the background"? Here it is.
          2. Nickola
            Nickola 23 October 2015 16: 30 New
            +4
            In this language, apart from the zmagars in and a certain number of outcasts, no one speaks. And part of the Republic of Belarus did not speak at all.
            1. Rarog
              Rarog 24 October 2015 12: 50 New
              +2
              Quote: Nickola
              In this language, apart from the zmagars in and a certain number of outcasts, no one speaks. And part of the Republic of Belarus did not speak at all.


              So far, practice shows that they will speak, if everything continues in this vein ... And then our children will reproach us that we have not forgotten that we are the One People.
              1. Director
                Director 24 October 2015 17: 07 New
                -3
                How absurd Russian extremism is. It turns out that you can’t speak in Belarus, study and write in Belarusian
                1. Rarog
                  Rarog 24 October 2015 20: 16 New
                  +2
                  He killed the Russian in himself ?! It’s sad, but although not, if you already killed, then you weren’t. Now you are a tseuropec, a universal human being, you can dig up new cakes and pry seas. The natural selection of the Russian ethos into action, there will only be those who are not ashamed of looking at their ancestors when the time comes, those who remember their history and have not exchanged their souls for a jar of jam and a basket of cookies.
          3. Rusich is not from Kiev
            Rusich is not from Kiev 23 October 2015 17: 13 New
            +7
            Quote: Explorer
            It turns out that the author "prohibits" a sovereign state to promote its nat. the language that was "pushed" into the background in the 90s? The consequences, I think, are known

            Do you have two national languages ​​or are you not up to date? Maybe we ask Belarusians what language they want to learn and what to promote? Again, for 90% of the inhabitants will you decide?

            Your photos are very correct. That is why Natsik and people like you need to isolate or there will be a second outskirts.
            1. Sling
              Sling 23 October 2015 23: 35 New
              +2
              You know, I wrote you a detailed answer, but I write from the tablet and flew away. I will say in other words - the photo is GMO, and the article is from a series of liberal, extremist ones. This is the opinion of the Belarusian. Guys, we are one nation, and I ask Banshee to not let such articles go on the air, since this opinion is bought, which has nothing to do with us. Yes, there are some people who speak mov, but these personalities are either historians who are fueled by Poland, or pseudo-patriots from Minsk, of which 2-3 percent are in Minsk. My village granny, speaks on the Ukrainian floor, Polish floor. And tell her that she is not Russian - I want to look at your eyes on her answer. No need to quarrel peoples, because we .... well, you understand I hope
              1. Rusich is not from Kiev
                Rusich is not from Kiev 26 October 2015 19: 12 New
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                Quote: Sling
                I will say in other words - the photo is GMO, and the article is from a series of liberal, extremist ones.

                The article is bad, but here the Belarusians who began to say here that only Belarus is the native language for Belarusians are extremists. Can't you see and understand this?
        2. Petergut
          Petergut 23 October 2015 08: 41 New
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          Quote: Explorer
          The article was written by a paranoid.
          .


          I can not agree with you.
          The author is a provocateur.
          The article is obvious ordering.
          1. Sling
            Sling 23 October 2015 23: 37 New
            +1
            cons along the way ... liberals chtoli. I can’t understand their opinion, and where do they get it from. like smart people like sitting here ....
        3. venaya
          venaya 23 October 2015 11: 37 New
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          Quote: Explorer
          written in one of the state historically established languages

          Not established, but artificially imposed, which by definition is a form of little hidden Nazism, so beloved in the West, to which you seem, judging by the flag, and belong. Let me remind you: In the areas of residence of the French Normans, throughout the XNUMXth century, they beat out the knowledge of their native Norman dialect from schoolchildren with rods (in our country) (and, unfortunately, successfully, so it cannot be restored), but they their dialect originated from the ancient Pomors. Do you want your posts to knock out our memory of the origin of "European" languages? Try it.
          1. Conductor
            Conductor 23 October 2015 12: 12 New
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            Not established, but artificially imposed

            I ask you to clarify what you mean by this (if you understand, of course, and not just invent along the way)
            1. Corporal Valera
              Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 14: 05 New
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              Quote: Explorer
              I ask you to clarify what you mean by this (if you understand, of course, and not just invent along the way)

              Please clarify why a citizen of the European Union so cares for the Belarusian national language?
            2. Rusich is not from Kiev
              Rusich is not from Kiev 23 October 2015 17: 17 New
              +3
              Quote: Explorer
              I ask you to clarify what you mean by this (if you understand, of course, and not just invent along the way)

              It is about the fact that for 70 years of the USSR and 25 years of Belarus this language for 90% (minimum) is the language of folklore no more. This is despite the fact that in the USSR, the movement was never infringed and even advanced.
              1. robbihood
                robbihood 23 October 2015 18: 39 New
                +7
                Lies. In the BSSR, teaching in rural schools, in district centers and villages was, very often, in Belarusian. And chemistry, and physics, not just history. And there was no talk of linguistic dominance. And they took exams to universities in Belarusian. Why do governments support the language of the Basque, Scots and other nations? The more people know languages, the richer they are. I was in Kazan - two languages. But Belarusians are so stupid that they won’t master their language? Is it really a burden for me to know my native language? Which I love very much.
                Article provocative, custom.
                1. vladimir_krm
                  vladimir_krm 23 October 2015 20: 55 New
                  +4
                  In the 70s, one Belarusian guy entered KhAI with me. He knew Russian poorly, mathematics was good, better than me. I passed the exam, he doesn’t. Draw conclusions.

                  Threat. But in general, Ukraine also began.
                  1. Rusich is not from Kiev
                    Rusich is not from Kiev 26 October 2015 19: 05 New
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                    Quote: vladimir_krm
                    He knew Russian poorly, mathematics was good, better than me. I passed the exam, he doesn’t. Draw conclusions.

                    Without knowledge of Russian, you cannot become a good mathematician. If a person wanted to enter the KhAI, then he had to pull up the Russians. In general, such people have always had quotas.
                    In Ukraine, it began precisely because the Russians suddenly became, as it were, not a language.
                2. FM-78
                  FM-78 23 October 2015 22: 56 New
                  0
                  I don’t know about the village, but in Brest, my close friend didn’t even know about the Belarusian language.
                  1. Sling
                    Sling 23 October 2015 23: 49 New
                    +4
                    And my parents forcibly taught me Belarusian, and nothing was heard. I love my country, but my language is Russian. Hello everyone from Brest.
            3. venaya
              venaya 23 October 2015 20: 53 New
              +2
              Quote: Explorer
              Not established, but artificially imposed

              please explain what you mean by this

              Easy. The term "Belarusian language" itself arose exclusively in the XNUMXth century, before that no one could think of dividing naturally occurring dialects of the Russian language into separate languages, and even introducing a primitive Latin alphabet, which in turn was born from the Etruscan form (other . Russian) writing, only simplified, for primitive peoples with an underdeveloped language. Taking into account the confirmed multi-thousand-year history of both the Russian language itself and its writing, the introduction of a new terminology (a separate language) should be considered as an element of separatism clearly imposed from the outside. The very fact of the closeness of Western dialects of Russian to the already sufficiently studied language of the ancient Etruscans speaks only of the great antiquity of our language itself throughout the Eurasian continent. It never occurred to anyone to endlessly divide a single people into separate nations, introducing a virus of parochial nationalism, only the enemies of a single people, with a common history of many thousands, are capable of this. if you have any questions, I am ready to discuss them at any level, easily.
              1. Conductor
                Conductor 23 October 2015 21: 10 New
                -2
                (Oh gods, what kind of nonsense did i just read?)
                I have a feeling that this is a conversation with a wall (or with a schoolboy), so I won’t spend much time
                Never tell such tales to more or less educated people, you will immediately be laughed at)))
                One gets the feeling that you and people like you on this site only studied programs with Zadornov or Ren-TV in order to amuse your imperial chauvinism .. For only such oaks can say thatRussianki =RussianIt seems that the Pendos, together with the gayrope, have again taken away all the glory from the Rossiyushka and the "Great Russians"? wassat laughing
                The Etruscans (Rasenna, Raśna, Etrusci, Tusci) who created a developed culture that preceded the Roman one and had a great influence on it, do not belong to the Russians in general. In general, how would you not like



                Slavs along with spiritual bonds are rushing, right?))
                And there are many more such historian linguists on topvar, I wonder? laughing
                1. Your friend
                  Your friend 23 October 2015 21: 36 New
                  0
                  ))))))))) "Spiritual braces", "Rossiyushka", "imperial chauvinism" - you forgot vodka, slaves and Finno-Ugric peoples. Without this, your post is not so fiery.
                  Incidentally, "the Etruscans, who created a developed culture that preceded the Roman" - the Etruscans are not the predecessors of the Romans, they developed in parallel (they are certainly older than the Romans), after the conquest by the Romans they quickly disappeared as a people.
                  1. Conductor
                    Conductor 23 October 2015 21: 41 New
                    -3
                    you forgot vodka, slaves and Finno-Ugric peoples. Without this, your post is not so incendiary.

                    Next time, I’ll take it into account. Just why should we transfer the conversation in a different direction?
                    I repeat, can you bring anything other than Zadornov’s statements as evidence?
                    1. Your friend
                      Your friend 23 October 2015 21: 48 New
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                      Quote: Explorer
                      you forgot vodka, slaves and Finno-Ugric peoples. Without this, your post is not so incendiary.

                      Next time, I’ll take it into account. Just why should we transfer the conversation in a different direction?
                      I repeat, can you bring anything other than Zadornov’s statements as evidence?

                      What kind of nonsense? Why should I prove that I did not write? Here I didn’t seem to minus you, as I adhere to the traditional interpretation of history.
                      1. Conductor
                        Conductor 23 October 2015 21: 51 New
                        -4
                        Well then, do not prove it. I just thought that you stood up for a comrade who claims that Etruscans = Russians (Only no one knew about this, of course, except for Ren-TV)
                      2. Your friend
                        Your friend 23 October 2015 22: 12 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Explorer
                        Well then, do not prove it. I just thought that you stood up for a comrade who claims that Etruscans = Russians (Only no one knew about this, of course, except for Ren-TV)

                        Everyone has their own cockroaches in their heads. a person has Fomenkov's "theories", you have quilted jackets)))
                2. venaya
                  venaya 23 October 2015 22: 03 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Your friend
                  ... after the conquest by the Romans, they quickly disappeared like a people.

                  In light of recent data, the Etruscans did not disappear, they simply assimilated, it’s enough to say that Kai Julius Caesar himself, judging by his last name and was an Etruscan, was of Trojan origin. There was evidence of Etruscan inscriptions from the period of the XNUMXth century, the topic is entertaining.
                  1. Sling
                    Sling 24 October 2015 00: 00 New
                    +1
                    I apologize, minus mine and random. Finger touched, but you can’t fix it ...
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                    2. Corporal Valera
                      Corporal Valera 24 October 2015 00: 34 New
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                      [quote = Sling] I apologize, minus mine and random. Finger touched, but you can’t fix it ... [/ quote]
                      Fixed)
              2. venaya
                venaya 23 October 2015 21: 57 New
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                Quote: Explorer
                do not tell such tales to more or less educated people ...
                One gets the feeling that you and others like you on this site only studied programs with Zadornov or Ren-TV, for only such oaks can say thatRussianki =Russiansky. It seems that the Pendos, along with the geyrope, have again taken away all the glory from the Rossiyushka and the "Great Russians"? The Etruscans (Rasenna, Raśna, Etrusci, Tusci), who created a developed culture that preceded the Roman culture and had a great influence on it, do not belong to the Russians in any way. Generally. How would you not like ... And there are many more such linguists - historians on top, I wonder?

                I answer with the last: A little, but the Nazis will be enough for you. I see that you judge the story based on the programs of a stupid TV box, judging by those to whom you refer. Remember, the science of etruscology is more than one hundred years old. While reading the books of the 2700th century, I began to freely read the inscriptions of the Etruscans on their stone mirrors, apparently you are centuries behind, by the way, these samples, which are about XNUMX years old, are still in Berlin museums. And now, in the XNUMXst century, the amount of available information has only increased many times over. Perhaps this is not available to you, because according to the style of presentation of your posts, you use openly yellow sources of information that have an openly Russophobic, that is, Nazi character. I am not surprised that you are writing, I have long been meeting with the manifestation of explicit Nazism in relation to everything Russian, both the language and the written language. So write, open up to the fullest, so that everyone can see who they are dealing with, "good luck" to you in this dirty business, given your specific Nazi "education".
                1. Conductor
                  Conductor 23 October 2015 22: 43 New
                  -2
                  So write, open up to the fullest, so that everyone can see who they are dealing with, "good luck" to you in this dirty business, given your specific Nazi "education".

                  So why say goodbye? I would like to look at your evidence

                  ... the term "Belarusian language" itself arose exclusively in the XNUMXth century, before that no one could think of dividing naturally occurring dialects of the Russian language into separate languages
                  ... a primitive Latin alphabet, which in turn was born from the form of Etruscan (other Russian) writing
                  ... the confirmed history of many thousands of years as the Russian language itself, and its written language
                  ... the very fact that the Western dialects of Russian are close to the already sufficiently studied language of the ancient Etruscans speaks only about the great antiquity of our language throughout the entire Eurasian continent

                  at least parts of it. Or are they secret?
                  1. venaya
                    venaya 24 October 2015 15: 42 New
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                    Quote: Explorer
                    So why say goodbye? I would like to look at your evidence
                    at least parts of it. Or are they secret?

                    He said goodbye, due to production necessity. My evidence? I note that they are not mine, but as I already referred to the science of etruscology, as I understand it, a reference to science for you is not a reference at all, but seems like an obscene word, in view of the fact that you cannot even imagine that someone can engage in such a not profitable business. I'll try to help you: Let's start from the 1848th century. For the first time in Russia, E. Klassen spoke about the Etruscans "The Ancient History ..." 7524, there are numerous works of recent years. But the Russian language, as the base language for all "European" languages, was defined by the prez. AN RI A.S. Shishkov, having published the book "Korneslov". Since then, no one has been able to scientifically challenge this statement. Try to refute this personally, I assure you, no one will laugh because many have undertaken this dirty business. There were enough attempts, but that's bad luck, it is impossible to refute in any way, on the contrary, a whole scientific school has grown, although its works are still successfully hidden. You are also involved in this unseemly business, sorry. By the way, congratulations on the XNUMXth summer, the Russian calendar, Russian writing for much more years.
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                1. Conductor
                  Conductor 23 October 2015 22: 34 New
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                  And why there MUST be Latin? Maybe it’s worth reading what I wrote earlier? Or is this way not for you?
              4. Corporal Valera
                Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 22: 32 New
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                Quote: Explorer
                do not tell such tales to more or less educated people,

                Mr. more or less educated, comment on the Radzivilov Chronicle. Where is the latin there?
                1. Conductor
                  Conductor 23 October 2015 22: 36 New
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                  And where is the Latin? So I don’t see (the first Lithuanian statute, 1529) Here is the Old Belorussian literary language.
                  And "Latin" has been used since the 17th century. It was originally built on the model of Polish writing.
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                  2. Conductor
                    Conductor 23 October 2015 22: 56 New
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                    And what is this language?) I give 3 attempts
                    1. Your friend
                      Your friend 23 October 2015 23: 05 New
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                      Cool, I can read and understand this page of the Catechism, but modern Belarusian with great difficulty.
                    2. Corporal Valera
                      Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 23: 28 New
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                      Quote: Explorer
                      I give 3 attempts

                      Give yourself three attempts when you will climb a woman! Simon Budny who is that? His biography is especially interesting.
                  3. Corporal Valera
                    Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 23: 10 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Explorer
                    And where is the Latin?

                    So, all the same, the Latin alphabet has no relation to the "national" Belarusian language? Fixed!
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                    2. Conductor
                      Conductor 23 October 2015 23: 47 New
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                      Comedian, 2 times I say, you must first read what I wrote above.
                      So, all the same, the Latin alphabet has no relation to the "national" Belarusian language? Fixed!

                      has, and what else
                      BUT AFTER the 17th century, when the active influence of Polish writing began!
                      I hope you don’t have to repeat it for the third time?
                    3. Corporal Valera
                      Corporal Valera 24 October 2015 00: 28 New
                      +6
                      Quote: Explorer
                      has, and what else
                      BUT AFTER the 17th century,

                      Thus, the national Belarusian identity begins with the polonization of the language in the 17th century! OK, Th
    2. Conductor
      Conductor 23 October 2015 12: 06 New
      -1
      Do you think Belarusian inscriptions are duplicated in English? But no, in English there are no letters with "gachekami" Š, Č and Ŭ. And what is it? And this is the so-called "Latsinka" - the Belarusian language in Latin spelling. The citizens of Belarus gradually, slowly began to teach Latin. When they get used to it, you can enter.

      author again froze stupidity
      Belarusian latin alphabet, also known as latin (Belorussian. Latsinka, lacinka) - the written language of the Belarusian language based on the Latin alphabet. Used since the XNUMXth century.. It was originally built on the model of Polish writing. “Latina” wrote some works of Belarusian literature of the 1862th century, the first newspaper in Belarusian “Muzhitskaya Prada” (1863–1906) was published on it; in parallel with the Cyrillic alphabet, “Nasha Niva” (1915–XNUMX) appeared on it. Today, the transliteration system, which almost completely matches the “Latin”, is used as an officially approved alphabet for the Romanization of Belarusian geographical names
      1. venaya
        venaya 23 October 2015 21: 09 New
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        Quote: Explorer
        The Belarusian Latin alphabet, also known as Latin (Belorussian. Latsinka, lacinka) is the written language of the Belarusian language based on the Latin alphabet. Used since the XNUMXth century.

        Please use a more precise terminology: it is not "used" but imposed, and not at all by the friends of a single Russian (including the one called Belarusian) people, which can be regarded as a form of ideological sabotage, which is what you are doing here. The autochthonous (that is, indigenous) language and writing throughout the territory of present-day Europe, of course, was precisely the Russian language and the forms of its writing, which is confirmed by numerous archaeological studies, it looks like you are not familiar with it or something else.
        1. Conductor
          Conductor 23 October 2015 21: 23 New
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          The whole world was Russian, which is so modest ...
          Of course, it was the Russian language and the forms of its writing that were autochthonous (that is, indigenous) both the language and the writing throughout the whole of Europe today, which is confirmed by numerous archaeological research

          Do not bother to present evidence? Or at least express it more specifically, otherwise I, to be honest on your
          numerous archaeological research
          don't give a damn)
          Want a hint?
          Vata of the brain- here is your diagnosis)
          1. Corporal Valera
            Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 21: 35 New
            +7
            Quote: Explorer
            Vata of the brain

            Painfully familiar saying. Heroes of fat?
            1. Conductor
              Conductor 23 October 2015 21: 46 New
              -5
              Quote: Corporal Valera
              Quote: Explorer
              Vata of the brain

              Painfully familiar saying. Heroes of fat?

              You see, your arguments are over?
              1. Corporal Valera
                Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 21: 52 New
                +4
                Quote: Explorer
                You see, your arguments are over?

                Ahaha laughing . You have to work on my arguments all night long! So go over the comments with your eyes, open Wikipedia, your manuals and go!
                1. Conductor
                  Conductor 23 October 2015 22: 49 New
                  -7
                  The silly question about the Latin woman has already been answered. If this is all your "arguments" are capable of, then request
            2. Your friend
              Your friend 23 October 2015 21: 49 New
              +3
              Quote: Corporal Valera
              Quote: Explorer
              Vata of the brain

              Painfully familiar saying. Heroes of fat?

              Yes, it's time to get used to it. They have everything around cotton wool.
              1. venaya
                venaya 23 October 2015 22: 10 New
                +2
                Quote: Your friend
                Yes, it's time to get used to it. They have everything around cotton wool.

                Common reason: the total fog in the brain, hence everything that they look at, seems to them like cotton wool.
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    5. Corporal Valera
      Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 13: 42 New
      +8
      Quote: Explorer
      Latina was generally launched during the World Hockey Championship so that tourists could navigate.


      Can you tell me how the word "Ploska" helps a tourist to navigate, for example? Maybe then you should have specified "Square"? World Cup - an excuse for the Selyuk.
      1. Conductor
        Conductor 23 October 2015 14: 09 New
        -4
        But Moscow tourists help, imagine ...
        Maybe then you should have specified "Square"?
        1. Corporal Valera
          Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 14: 49 New
          +3
          Convincing argument! The degree of cretinization is the same in Moscow and in Minsk. Do not explain the practical meaning? Your human beings like-minded people hang out here http://echo.msk.ru/polls/605049-echo/comments.html
          1. Corporal Valera
            Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 15: 56 New
            +6
            In addition to the topics:
            During the experiment, during which journalists suggested the American to read the names of the stations in the Belarusian Latin alphabet, he could not do this correctly in any case.

            But when he was asked to write down the name of the stations in English letters by ear, and he did, according to his records, other English-speaking foreigners called the correct names without any problems.


            Dobro pojalovat "v gopod Moskva will help tourists a lot. Wellcome to Moscow is for fools!"
            1. Corporal Valera
              Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 16: 25 New
              +3
              The translation of the names from Cyrillic to Latin at the expense of budget money was carried out by specialists of the Yakub Kolas Institute of Linguistics of the National Academy of Sciences. I’ll add from myself that within the walls of this institution there are many who work for a long time and persistently strive to “get rid of Russian dominance”

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              2. Your friend
                Your friend 23 October 2015 16: 34 New
                +6
                It's cool that there is no Russian language on the metro map. Not really Russian is not the second official language of Belarus? ayah ...
                1. Corporal Valera
                  Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 19: 30 New
                  +1
                  So in the article they said - derusification!
                2. Sling
                  Sling 24 October 2015 00: 15 New
                  +2
                  World Cup .. and it can’t. I myself arrived in Minsk, a little ooh..el - already in Europe?
  2. Morrrow
    Morrrow 23 October 2015 09: 27 New
    16
    If you hate the Great Russians and the Russian language, then tell me about it openly as men, why these ladies' tricks?
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 23 October 2015 10: 04 New
      -14
      Drink valerian and calm down, the Great Russian ... Hatred for his country just smells little article.
      1. Morrrow
        Morrrow 23 October 2015 10: 08 New
        0
        I am calm as an elephant.
    2. Conductor
      Conductor 23 October 2015 12: 16 New
      +2
      By the way, who are these people?
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 23 October 2015 13: 30 New
        +5
        What? Are these people (on photos 1 and 3) yelling - "Belarusians on a gilyak"? Why a question about these people? Well, yes, 2 photoshopped in general proves a lot ... uh, by the way, what does it prove in your opinion? Who are these people in 2 photos? It seems that you are delusional.
    3. bordos
      bordos 23 October 2015 16: 54 New
      +1
      Russian language we love
      Russians too
      but to the Great Russians somehow not very
      1. Rusich is not from Kiev
        Rusich is not from Kiev 23 October 2015 17: 25 New
        +6
        Quote: bordos
        Russian language we love
        Russians too
        but to the Great Russians somehow not very

        Do you like Russians? Velikoross is Russian according to current concepts, unless of course there is such a nation as Belarus.
        1. bordos
          bordos 23 October 2015 17: 52 New
          0
          Russian, like the rest of the nations included in the Russian Federation
          Russian nationalists - somehow not very request
          1. Corporal Valera
            Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 19: 27 New
            +2
            Like us Belarusian
            1. Corporal Valera
              Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 20: 41 New
              +5
              Oh how it turns out! Russian nationalism is bad! Ah ah ah! Great chauvinism! And Belarusian is good! The self-consciousness of the people wakes up! And if you put an equal sign between them, then karma deteriorates. What is it for? what
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          2. Rusich is not from Kiev
            Rusich is not from Kiev 23 October 2015 22: 15 New
            +3
            Quote: bordos
            Russian, like the rest of the nations included in the Russian Federation
            Russian nationalists - somehow not very

            So we also do not like Belonatsiks who believe that only the native language is for the citizens of Belarus.

            Velikoruss and the Nazis are completely different things.
            1. bordos
              bordos 24 October 2015 00: 19 New
              -6
              only as you have deigned to express, there are too many "Belonatsiks" in Belarus. but the number of "Great Russians" who are ready to wet the hooves of a horse in the Indian Ocean, and his tail in the Caribbean Sea - only here goes off scale
              1. Corporal Valera
                Corporal Valera 24 October 2015 06: 31 New
                +1
                Well, if you calculate the percentage of the population?
              2. Rusich is not from Kiev
                Rusich is not from Kiev 26 October 2015 18: 55 New
                +2
                Quote: bordos
                but the number of "Great Russians" who are ready to wet the hooves of a horse in the Indian Ocean, and his tail in the Caribbean Sea - only here goes off scale

                What do these people have to do with Natsik?
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  3. Rusich is not from Kiev
    Rusich is not from Kiev 23 October 2015 17: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: hedgehog in the fog
    I agree with you 100%, well, yes, signs in Belarus in the Belarusian language do you think this is bad? the author does not kindle a national conflict

    Hedgehog are you a nationalist? Only honestly.
    You have TWO state. language and one is infringed if, instead, they are duplicated in English. For example, in our republics there are signs in two languages ​​(state and republican), and why is it not worrying you here on one? They also spoke in Ukraine 109 years ago.
  • kumaxa
    kumaxa 23 October 2015 07: 25 New
    -4
    yes actually nonsense somehow. want to argue chtoli !! ?? Belorussians have an adverb; they can use it in everyday life more conveniently. but it’s clear what they’re talking or writing about. root of linguistic unity. Russian current was modernized and unified in the 20s of the 20th century.
  • Captainden
    Captainden 23 October 2015 08: 14 New
    10
    I support the fellow countryman, in RB there are 2 state languages, Russian and Belarusian. If in Tatarstan, the subject of the Russian Federation, there are 2 languages, then why a sovereign state cannot promote its national language. By the way, 90% of the population of the republic speaks Russian, including government agencies.
    1. Morrrow
      Morrrow 23 October 2015 09: 29 New
      +6
      The problem is not in promoting the language, but in de-Russification.
      1. Captainden
        Captainden 23 October 2015 10: 53 New
        -3
        Have you been to Tatarstan? And in Belarus? Why draw such a conclusion without full knowledge of the situation?
      2. Sling
        Sling 24 October 2015 00: 20 New
        +1
        and what is this druse ..? I personally have not met
    2. Corporal Valera
      Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 13: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: CaptainDen
      If in Tatarstan, the subject of the Russian Federation, there are 2 languages, then why a sovereign state cannot promote its national language. By the way, 90% of the population of the republic speaks Russian, including the state

      So the article is not about the fact that the author is against promoting the "national" language, but about the squeezing out of Russian, which (so far) "is spoken by 90% of the republic's residents." By the way, isn't it because they speak it because it is their native language, and the national language of the Republic of Belarus is a dialect of Russian? And how pseudo-national languages ​​are created out of the blue and why this is being done - we all perfectly see in Ukraine. How is the map in the "national" Ukrainian language going to be? Mapa? How long have Ukrainians become Anglo-Saxons? Map (English) - noun. map, plan. And you have a "national Belarusian" who carries it to the masses? Litvin? I don't know, I'm just interested.
      1. Conductor
        Conductor 23 October 2015 14: 18 New
        -4
        If you are on the date of fixing the language norm, the formation of modern literature, the codification of grammar, then there are two options: the dominant official spelling (introduced since 1933) and Tarashkevitsa (also called "classical spelling", was officially used from 1918 to 1933. Now used limited and unofficial
        According to the 2009 census of Belarus, the mother tongue of the Belarusian language was 4 people who called themselves Belarusians, as well as 841 representatives of other nationalities (319 of them were Poles), which totaled 217% of the country's population. In addition, 015 who identified themselves as Belarusians indicated Belarusian as a second language, which they are fluent in, 171 people of other nationalities also indicated Belarusian as a second language (including 287 Russian), which in total is 53,22% of the country's population .

        1) Belarusian folk dialect language (from ancient times to the XNUMXst centuries), mainly the spoken language of rural residents and folklore
        2) West Russian (also: Old Belorussian, Ruthenian) literary and written (XIV — XVIII centuries):
        the official written language in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (XIV — XVII century);
        then there is a gradual replacement of the Western Russian literary and written language with Polish (second half of the XNUMXth century - XNUMXth century). In the Polish historiographic and linguistic tradition, this language is called język ruski (“ruski” is an adjective from the word “Ruś” = “Rus” - as a designation Kievan Rus), in contrast to the Polish. język rosyjski 'Russian language'

        The formation of the Belarusian language was influenced by the Old Russian dialects of the ancient Radimichs, Dregoviches, Smolensk and Polotsk Krivichs, and possibly northerners. A certain substratum role was played by the Baltic dialects - Yatvyag, Prussians, etc.
        Encyclopedic lexicon. St. Petersburg, 1836. V.7. S. 569
        The real Belorussian language is a very curious monument,
        which our scientists would have to study carefully,
        because he explains a lot in Russian literatures and in the philology of our language.
        He can be called the father of the Great Russian adverb.
        This is probably the same language that was spoken in Pskov and Novgorod under the Varangians.
        Eliminated in good faith the influence of Mongolism and hitherto
        who have not experienced the influence of Great Russia,
        in many respects he retained his old look and character
        and suffered less from the form of the Polish language than they think.

        if you have something to say on business- ready to listen
        1. Your friend
          Your friend 23 October 2015 14: 48 New
          +4
          Explorer (1) EU Today, 14: 18
          Encyclopedic lexicon. St. Petersburg, 1836. V.7. S. 569
          The real Belorussian language is a very curious monument,
          which our scientists would have to study carefully,
          because he explains a lot in Russian literatures and in the philology of our language.
          He can be called the father of the Great Russian adverb.
          This is probably the same language that was spoken in Pskov and Novgorod under the Varangians.
          Eliminated in good faith the influence of Mongolism and hitherto
          who have not experienced the influence of Great Russia,
          in many respects he retained his old look and character
          and suffered less from the form of the Polish language than they think.
          if you have something to say on the case, I’m ready to listen

          __________________________________________________________________
          Hahahaha ... Why didn't you cite the previous paragraph "Encyclopedic Lexikon" in the quote? Well, you haven't read it, but you are ready to speak "on business". What a business you are, it's already scary.

          BѢLORUSSIAN or RUSSIAN language.
          Under this name steel recently
          time, to understand that barbaric language, which
          Skoryn, Simeon of Polotsk wrote
          Lazar Baranovich and other spiritual writings
          bodies formed by pol_
          shea: it’s mixed, more or less dense,
          Polish words and words with Russian,
          the same word is once expressed
          ІІольскн, another in Russian, looking at the st¬¬
          fine your claim to grace and mind
          not follow fashion; inclination and conjugation
          there is no permanent rule; the church
          Native language peremshan with Forms of Pol¬
          Russian and Russian. The Poles called this
          gibberish by the Russian language, i.e., neither
          Polish, v. Moscow. Scientists Greco
          Russian Ispovdaniya in the south and west
          Noah of Russia, brought up in Polish schools
          lah, and Moscow experienced people flaunted
          expressions, turns and words of Polish
          mi, of which many have entered into the present
          Russian language, especially in Moscow dіa¬
          lect. By mѣrѣ decrease in the presence of Paul
          language of literature and education of original identity
          taste in Russia, began to write the closest
          к Russian language, to which proof
          Serve St. Dimitry Rostov, Anton
          Radzivilovic and Stefan Yavorsky; at herself
          Geofan Prokopovich’s pain
          the big difference between the first and last
          in his words, because he eat everyone
          in the afternoon I got to know the language Rus
          skim. This barbarism is wrongly named
          in Belarusian language, more than that,
          What is the language used in Bѣlaya Ru¬
          si and prayer between the common people, not
          There is not any resemblance to that.
          Nym Bulorus.
        2. Corporal Valera
          Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 15: 44 New
          +6
          Happiness is unshakable. First Persian, BELARUS, not BELARUSIAN. Pa-another, Belarus-the Independent Territory and Pavinna Metz pile mov. Raseic mov-mov-race-race people. Nya treba ya to impose on us. Praiava іmperyaryіzmu і Kalanіzatarstva.

          Well then, please comment on what language it is? And how does he relate to the Old Belarusian side? And how many times the words "brydka" and "pavagai" are used in the Barkulab chronicle. Newspeak of the early 20th century is your promoted so-called "national" language, which has nothing to do with Western Russian
    3. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 23 October 2015 17: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: CaptainDen
      Tatarstan, the subject of the Russian Federation, has 2 languages, then why a sovereign state cannot promote its national language.

      That's right. Why in Tatarstan all the plates are in two languages, and in Belarus there is one state. the language is not presented on the tablets. Then exclude the Russians of their state and all.
  • DimYang
    DimYang 23 October 2015 11: 23 New
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    And I agree with the author. Luke flirts with the West too eagerly. Such a policy will create a problem in the future. The ruin is an example to you. And the language that they want to slip as a move has never existed — an invention of Tarashkevich. And the Latin is a bow towards the Vatican, was created as a gap from Orthodoxy to Uniate. The punitive battalions The ruins consist entirely of uniates from the West. Now draw the logical strings. I think to yourself you can confess what this will lead to.
  • Turkir
    Turkir 23 October 2015 11: 44 New
    +6
    it’s not worth making Russophobes out of Belarusians this is far from the case!

    None of us do this.
    Others are busy with this. About this and the article.
  • Nickola
    Nickola 23 October 2015 16: 25 New
    +7
    but the fact that the Latin alphabet is introduced is a fact and Litvin every year more and more. I work in Minsk and see a tendency to increase the dull population of European supporters among young people.
    1. Your friend
      Your friend 23 October 2015 16: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: Nickola
      but the fact that the Latin alphabet is introduced is a fact and Litvin every year more and more. I work in Minsk and see a tendency to increase the dull population of European supporters among young people.

      Our company in Moscow employs 2 Belarusians, young. One norm. But the second yearns for the ON, the European, a well-read Slav and generally speaking for the Commonwealth from sea to sea. (
    2. Corporal Valera
      Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 20: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: Nickola
      but the fact that the Latin alphabet is introduced is a fact and Litvin every year more and more. I work in Minsk and see a tendency to increase the dull population of European supporters among young people.


      And we are filthy imperials and colonialists! And the less Russian words, the better! Need more Polish words! Then the sense of national identity will be satisfied! Who else we have not been to Europe? Get in line!
  • Belopolyak
    Belopolyak 23 October 2015 16: 47 New
    -2
    In Moscow, the name of the stations is also written in Latin letters in the metro. No brains to understand why this is, then I am not to blame.
    P.S. so that what a foreigner reads (without delving into the meaning of the word) is heard in the station announcements.
    1. Corporal Valera
      Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 21: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Belopolsky
      No brains to understand why this is, then I am not to blame.

      Let’s keep silent about your brains culturally and meaningfully, but let’s only say about what they read (I don’t know how it’s in Belopololsk), while we have it from top to bottom and left to right. Then much of the secret becomes simple and understandable. Above there is a video about the "torment" of a foreigner in the Belarusian metro.
      1. Belopolyak
        Belopolyak 26 October 2015 10: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Corporal Valera
        I don’t know how it is in Belopolshe), but with us from top to bottom and from left to right.

        Excuse me, are you talking about what country? It seems you did not study geography well, there is no such country. And about the torment, explain it, well, at least Sobyanin, let all the signs and signs in Moscow change. Yes, and it turns out we bend to the west !! Yes, where in the heart of the country !!!!
  • FM-78
    FM-78 23 October 2015 22: 51 New
    +1
    Do you live in Russia?
  • Eragon
    Eragon 23 October 2015 06: 42 New
    +5
    M-yeah ... I wonder if this scribbler has ever been to Belarus? But at the same time in the BSSR?
    Being in the BSSR, he would be pretty surprised that many signs are written in the Belarusian language. And there are newspapers in Belarusian. Was it then that "de-Russification" began?
    Russian is called native about 70% of the population. They not only use it, but also consider it a native. In a city with a population of more than 30 thousand people, Belarusian speech on the street cannot be heard.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 23 October 2015 07: 08 New
      14
      Perhaps it was then that de-Russification began. You name it or you guess it yourself,



      a couple of new states in which 25 years ago, the Russian language was the native language of interest for 70 people. You still have everything in front.
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 23 October 2015 07: 30 New
      -8
      Quote: Eragon
      . Interestingly, this scribbler has ever been to Belarus?

      The author issued a custom hack, it is not clear to me how moderators miss such nonsense, it’s strange why Scraptor’s article about the Korean War was not missed and this nonsense was missed, and even at the beginning of the thread?
      1. Walking
        Walking 23 October 2015 08: 19 New
        16
        In Ukraine, it also began with this.
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 23 October 2015 10: 13 New
          +3
          Quote: Hiking
          In Ukraine, it also began with this.

          Where did it start? Street names are written in Belarusian so that people don’t forget that they have their own language, this doesn’t bother Belarusians. Belarusians are worried that the plants work and the products diverge, we do not have national problems, there are economic problems.
          And to write articles that cast a shadow on the fence is not worth it on a decent site.
          Maybe the author to take care of his problems.
          1. Morrrow
            Morrrow 23 October 2015 10: 19 New
            +6
            And what is the native language of Belarusians? And in general, who is Belarus?
          2. Your friend
            Your friend 23 October 2015 15: 25 New
            -2
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            Maybe the author to take care of his problems.

            What is the problem of this photo?
          3. Rusich is not from Kiev
            Rusich is not from Kiev 23 October 2015 17: 36 New
            +3
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            Street names are written in Belarusian so that people don’t forget that they have their own language, this doesn’t bother Belarusians.

            And Russians are not their native language for 70% (judging by the polls) for Belarusians? Why is he not nearby?

            You want to say that most Russian Nazis oppress the culture of other peoples)))
          4. kubanec
            kubanec 23 October 2015 18: 28 New
            0
            ---- Can the author tackle his problems .---- CHOTA DO NOT HEAR THAT THE RUSSIAN NAZIS HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST BELARUSIANS OR UKROV OR ANOTHER THREAD FROM EUROPE, THERE HAVE USUALLY PRINCIPLES TO ALL CHURK; THERE IS EUROPEAN BELARUSIANS AND EUROPEAN POUCHERS SOME PURE AGAINST RUSSIANS TO SAY THIS EUROPEAN FASCISM; SO YOU DON'T SHOULD PRESENT TO BROTHERS THE GREAT BRITAINS AND ENEMY BECAUSE TAKING BOREAU BELARUS. - Sorry - MALOROSY- AND THERE IS A PART OF THE ONE GREAT PEOPLE !!!!!
    3. DimYang
      DimYang 23 October 2015 11: 30 New
      +5
      The question is in the official trend. First 70, then 60, etc. This must not be allowed. And Luke is the direct culprit of this. Not because he is bad or good, but because for the sake of the throne he will do anything.
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 23 October 2015 11: 51 New
        +4
        Quote: dimyan
        And Luke is the direct culprit of this. Not because he is bad or good, but because for the sake of the throne he will do anything.

        Who can really get closer to the throne from the opposition in Belarus now? Only show our opposition to the people at the zoo, because it is nowhere else to be seen.
        In these elections, the Old Man did not bother much.
    4. Your friend
      Your friend 23 October 2015 13: 38 New
      +1
      You can speak Russian and hate Russians. Give an example?)))
  • parusnik
    parusnik 23 October 2015 06: 44 New
    12
    Lukashenko, the faint twinkle of nationalism does not extinguish .. slightly supports ..
    1. kumaxa
      kumaxa 23 October 2015 07: 39 New
      +1
      national identity + belonging to great power. supported and encouraged in the USSR.
      1. venaya
        venaya 23 October 2015 08: 50 New
        12
        Quote: kumaxa
        national self-identity + belonging to great power, supported and encouraged back in the USSR.

        And who supported it? And who was encouraged? But doesn’t it seem to you that these are the very people and organizations that set Hitler himself into our country?
        Somehow we do not really want to remember who exactly organized at least the introduction of the Ukrainian language system on the territory of Ancient Rus in the mother of Russian cities, the city of Kiev. Let me remind you of his name, Kaganovich was the most successful in this vile business. Was he interested in the questions of self-awareness of the newly-made nation of "Ukrainian people"? I doubt it very much. There is something deeper here, not outwardly visible. As for the Belarusians, the story is completely similar. One of the oldest dialects of the Russian language (the closest to Etruscan), someone needed to call it a separate language. What do you mean, "gave the oak." Remember the general principle of psychology: "If a person is told 99 times that he is a pig ...". I earnestly ask you not to succumb to outright provocation, do not allow yourself to be made a cattle, b ... lo. We deserve more! The difference between White Russia and Black Russia is not at all territorial, this is a topic for a separate post, until I focus on this.
        1. DimYang
          DimYang 23 October 2015 11: 32 New
          +6
          I support comrade. From everywhere where pace and snobber stick out poorly.
      2. V.ic
        V.ic 23 October 2015 08: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: kumaxa
        encouraged in the USSR.

        In the USSR it was rather "encouraged". About "shche": Not vmerla yet ....?
    2. lesnik1978
      lesnik1978 23 October 2015 08: 41 New
      16
      The author is 100% full. We also have such that if you turn to them in Russian they will say that they don’t understand. The real Belarusian language is a dialect of Russian. And the fact that the announcers on TV say this is a product of Polish lackeys. It is enough to open the Polish dictionary to be sure. these Polish words are issued as for Belarusian. new words are also being invented. if only not in Russian (for example, a computer and a shasha and others). They distort names, the name of cities (for example, Anna-Ganna. Olga-Volga. Egor-Rygor). The task of the nationalists is the accession of Belarus to Poland. They constantly announce to the Commonwealth and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, tell how they lived well in slavery and occupation.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 23 October 2015 08: 53 New
        11
        Quote: lesnik1978
        constantly to the Commonwealth and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, they tell how they lived well in slavery and occupation.

        The gentlemen still have in their minds the return of "seedlings" to Poland.
      2. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 23 October 2015 14: 51 New
        0
        Quote: lesnik1978
        The author is 100%

        Forester and you are Belarusian?
      3. bordos
        bordos 23 October 2015 17: 02 New
        +1
        long from the forest?
        Is there at least one confirmed fact that a Belarusian answered a question in Russian "I don't understand"? tell this chilling story, don't feel sorry for us bully
        1. Your friend
          Your friend 23 October 2015 17: 32 New
          +5
          Quote: bordos
          long from the forest?
          Is there at least one confirmed fact that a Belarusian answered a question in Russian "I don't understand"? tell this chilling story, don't feel sorry for us bully

          Are you serious? Do not disgrace, I was in the same company in Minsk along with a stubborn Svidomo who answered me in Belarusian, which I do not know. Is this a chilling story? I did not regret you?
          1. bordos
            bordos 23 October 2015 17: 57 New
            +4
            I met stubborn people who spoke only a language they understood. is it representative? Will we discuss their national characteristics?
            Are we talking about the population of a friendly neighboring country or about some who are stubborn?
            come to Belarus, look at everything with your own eyes
            By the way, the last rally after the election brought together up to 200 people like. do you calculate the percentage of the total population?
            and yes, my de-Russified Russian doesn't bother you? accent, usage, punctuation? no precipitation is felt?
            1. lesnik1978
              lesnik1978 23 October 2015 19: 10 New
              +3
              This article is about the imposition of an artificial language, for the majority of the population is contrary. In villages where 100% speak their native Russian, the language of instruction in schools is completely Belarusian. After all, they do not ask if you want to study it or not. My native language goes to the role of colloquial-kitchen, so people begin to resent! Go to YouTube, there on its expanses, hot battles erupt from time to time between the representatives of the Russian world and their neighbors.
            2. Your friend
              Your friend 23 October 2015 19: 21 New
              +1
              Quote: bordos
              I met stubborn people who spoke only a language they understood. is it representative? Will we discuss their national characteristics?
              Are we talking about the population of a friendly neighboring country or about some who are stubborn?
              come to Belarus, look at everything with your own eyes
              By the way, the last rally after the election brought together up to 200 people like. do you calculate the percentage of the total population?
              and yes, my de-Russified Russian doesn't bother you? accent, usage, punctuation? no precipitation is felt?

              It's funny, the person asked the question “there is at least one confirmed fact that the Belarusian answered the question in Russian“ I don’t understand ”,” I replied that there is such a fact. But the person persists, asks strange questions - "I have met stoned people who spoke only the language they understand. Is this representative? Will we discuss their national characteristics?"
              Eeeeee, did I ask you about your "de-Russified Russian"? About "accent, word usage, punctuation"? What sediment? Are you delusional?
              1. bordos
                bordos 24 October 2015 00: 09 New
                -2
                friend, in the example you cited, YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND)))))
                They understood you perfectly, but frankly trolled. something you did not seem Polesskiy polyglot.
                Well, would you talk to your svyadom in Urdu, Pashto or Swahili - and he would be fools. wassat
            3. Corporal Valera
              Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 20: 26 New
              +3
              There is a sediment! Have you seen the whole RB yourself? For example, there was no question of Bandera's glorification in Ukraine a generation ago! And to grow up a new generation of Litvin is a piece of cake! I posted a video there above about where your future cadres to study, so make sure that you, in your old age, are not thrown into the trash by the "enlightened" youth! For being unpatriotic.
            4. Corporal Valera
              Corporal Valera 23 October 2015 20: 26 New
              +4
              There is a sediment! Have you seen the whole RB yourself? For example, there was no question of Bandera's glorification in Ukraine a generation ago! And to grow up a new generation of Litvin is a piece of cake! I posted a video there above about where your future cadres to study, so make sure that you, in your old age, are not thrown into the trash by the "enlightened" youth! For being unpatriotic.
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          3. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 25 October 2015 08: 49 New
            0
            Quote: Your friend
            Do not disgrace, I was in the same company in Minsk along with a stubborn Svidomo who answered me in Belarusian, which I do not know.

            I was in Moscow, everyone answered me in Russian, there were no problems, I know Russian well.
        2. lesnik1978
          lesnik1978 23 October 2015 18: 51 New
          +7
          This story was shown in one of the programs on BT. And on the eve of the elections, two articles appeared in the government mouthpiece-newspaper Sovetskaya Belorussia. (I want to note that this newspaper regularly publishes anti-Russian and Russophobic articles). One of them said that Russia in Syria is not fighting the terrorist igil's nits, but is building its Byzantine Empire. In the other, that the Kremlin is exaggerating the colors, saying that the Russian language is spreading rot in Ukraine. And in the weekly "Top Secret" it is constantly hammered into the fact that Belarusians are not Slavs, they are not Baltic Slavs, they are not even Balts, but Poles, and that the Krivichi pshekali and the Russian people are strangers. But people read them all the time. I have met people who do not know what the St. George ribbon means, why it is worn. I met people who demanded to take it off and were indignant at her. (They were among the Khokhlomors-migrants from Volyn).
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    3. avt
      avt 23 October 2015 10: 07 New
      +8
      Quote: parusnik
      Lukashenko, the faint twinkle of nationalism does not extinguish .. slightly supports.

      Yes, I've already written many times - nationalism is the ONLY ideology that allows the "elites" of the newly formed ex-Soviet states to keep the clearing received from the partition of the USSR. The degree of intensity of nationalism is naturally different, the result is really one and only a matter of time to approach it. And it's not even a matter of language, language, however, like religion, there is generally only a stroke, an addition that strengthens or slows down processes.The main thing here is the understanding of HISTORY, or rather, under what sign it is being introduced back in school, and actually from this you can further see the vector of development of this new, but how the rule of an ancient, mighty, but now small and proud state.This new story is being introduced in the post-Soviet space and gives the answer -How now small peoples leading a genealogy from the "shakers of the universe" have come to such a life. Ukry have already been definitively determined. laughing
      Quote: lesnik1978
      . The real Belarusian language is a dialect of Russian.

      Moreover, according to the phonetics of the sounding of the vowel, A goes beyond Moscow, then, as a result, they pressed O more in vowels, and now they press. smile
    4. Victorio
      Victorio 23 October 2015 13: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: parusnik
      Lukashenko, the faint twinkle of nationalism does not extinguish .. slightly supports ..

      =====
      you need to control who throws firewood, and the one who should control it
  • inkass_98
    inkass_98 23 October 2015 06: 50 New
    10
    What can I say? Almost nothing (I have never been to Belarus, and I’m unlikely to be, this is how life develops), but Father But and Belarusians as a whole, right at their side, are the clearest example of where Svidomo zmagars lead if they are fed, cared for and nurtured. Let them draw conclusions themselves.
    1. kumaxa
      kumaxa 23 October 2015 07: 42 New
      0
      that this is true! Cho Ukrainians z Banderlog pulled up the border service of the BSSR!
      1. lesnik1978
        lesnik1978 23 October 2015 21: 04 New
        +2
        Hohlomori have been illegal with us for 25 years. Burned almost all of Polesie. It is high time to introduce a visa regime with them. Insane and unpredictable neighbors. So that they live well. There they call us scoops. At us, we are Slavs. Werewolves in one word.
    2. noWAR
      noWAR 23 October 2015 09: 58 New
      +6
      Quote: inkass_98
      (I’ve never been to Belarus and I’m unlikely to be, this is how life develops)

      It’s in vain, dear, I personally invite you.
    3. Your friend
      Your friend 23 October 2015 13: 49 New
      +2
      The Old Man, though, remains the Old Man, but our government is astounding, as for years nothing has been done to support the Russians in Ukraine, and now nothing is done to support the Russians in Belarus. And then when the horses appear on the streets of Minsk, ours will shrug.
      1. lesnik1978
        lesnik1978 23 October 2015 16: 21 New
        +5
        The horses have been present for a long time. and very violent.
        1. bordos
          bordos 24 October 2015 00: 10 New
          -1
          aye, man, so in what forest are they jumping already? smile
  • Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 23 October 2015 07: 00 New
    0
    Bredyatina request
    Russian second state. When they cancel it, then you will scream about all kinds of oppression and so on. And the manifestation of such names in some cases does not mean the acceptance of this in the whole country. Well, if someone dreams of different "conspiracies", then buy soothing pills and take at night. wink
    Such an unbalanced one will come, see a couple of signs that he didn’t like and that’s all, the world collapsed, the end is .... negative
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 23 October 2015 07: 33 New
      11
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Russian second state.

      Russian is more likely the first state in our country, except for the name of the streets.
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 23 October 2015 17: 07 New
        +4
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        Russian is more likely the first state in our country, except for the name of the streets.

        Then I do not understand, because of which all the fuss ??? Because of what, our Russian brothers are causing a blizzard at horror stories invented by them ???
        Ugh ... request
    2. kumaxa
      kumaxa 23 October 2015 07: 36 New
      0
      do not cultivate respect. 5k in action so they want to slave the Slavic Union. Yankees dough uff scorching on.
    3. Morrrow
      Morrrow 23 October 2015 09: 32 New
      +5
      Then it will be too late.
    4. Your friend
      Your friend 23 October 2015 13: 55 New
      0
      Pralno gavarite. Right now I'll take a couple of toblets.
      Well, actually, yes, I’ve been to Belarusian forums several times, there are adequate people there.
  • Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 23 October 2015 07: 15 New
    +3
    the author is fundamentally wrong !!!! no need to stir up a conflict! not so! not at all like that! I live in Belarus - a citizen of the Russian Federation himself- EVERYTHING I SEE VOICE - CHILDREN study my 2 languages ​​- I know 2 myself ......... I don’t see anything wrong with this ..... or the author so wants popularity website dial?
    1. Morrrow
      Morrrow 23 October 2015 09: 33 New
      +6
      The author is right. You will be Poles, everything goes to this
    2. Morrrow
      Morrrow 23 October 2015 09: 45 New
      +1
      Why would the Great Russian know the rural dialect of the outskirts? Why was there no such problem in RI? After all, there was one language everywhere.
  • demos1111
    demos1111 23 October 2015 07: 20 New
    11
    The author wrote everything correctly. We have two state languages ​​in our constitution, Russian and Belarusian, the invitation to the elections came only in Morse code.
    If anyone has doubts, send the child to any school in Minsk, he will explain everything to you easily.
    The author of the article is right.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 23 October 2015 10: 37 New
      +5
      We have two state languages ​​in our constitution, Russian and Belarusian, the invitation to the elections came only in Morse code.


      Old Man does not give rest to the career rise of Yanukovych ... lol
      1. Rader
        Rader 23 October 2015 21: 05 New
        +2
        The author wrote everything correctly. We have two state languages ​​in our constitution, Russian and Belarusian, the invitation to the elections came only in Morse code.

        Meaning in Morse code? Are you talking about SMS from the Central Election Commission?
        So it seems like on the Great and Mighty ...
        1. Your friend
          Your friend 23 October 2015 21: 20 New
          0
          Nitsche how advanced. I did not receive an invitation to any elections in the Russian Federation (
  • roml
    roml 23 October 2015 07: 30 New
    -2
    The author is not just not in the subject, but far from it. there are only a few schools in the country that teach only in Belarusian, and it is logical for me to study the history and geography of Belarus in Belarusian. The names in the Latin alphabet were made before the world hockey championships (if somebody was, have you heard a lot in Belarusian conversations?) So you don’t have to be pumped up.
    1. Morrrow
      Morrrow 23 October 2015 09: 34 New
      +8
      And when to pump? When will you kill for Russian? Or send to the ghetto, as in Narva?
      1. noWAR
        noWAR 23 October 2015 10: 01 New
        -2
        Quote: Morrrow
        And when to pump? When will you kill for Russian? Or send to the ghetto, as in Narva?

        A bucket of valerian, may feel better!
        1. Your friend
          Your friend 23 October 2015 15: 33 New
          0
          Quote: noWAR
          Quote: Morrrow
          And when to pump? When will you kill for Russian? Or send to the ghetto, as in Narva?

          A bucket of valerian, may feel better!

          Belarusians in nat. non-fall guard? No, have not heard.
          1. Rader
            Rader 23 October 2015 21: 12 New
            +1
            Quote: Your friend
            Quote: noWAR
            Quote: Morrrow
            And when to pump? When will you kill for Russian? Or send to the ghetto, as in Narva?

            A bucket of valerian, may feel better!

            Belarusians in nat. non-fall guard? No, have not heard.

            Russians in nat. guard nezalezhnay? No, did not hear?
            1. Your friend
              Your friend 23 October 2015 21: 21 New
              0
              Quote: Rader
              Quote: Your friend
              Quote: noWAR
              Quote: Morrrow
              And when to pump? When will you kill for Russian? Or send to the ghetto, as in Narva?

              A bucket of valerian, may feel better!

              Belarusians in nat. non-fall guard? No, have not heard.

              Russians in nat. guard nezalezhnay? No, did not hear?

              Really Russian in nat. guards shot in Belarus ??? Yes, I have not heard that.
  • moL4yn
    moL4yn 23 October 2015 07: 31 New
    +3
    Some kind of stupid stuffing
  • kumaxa
    kumaxa 23 October 2015 07: 34 New
    +1
    notice !! that in Soviet times, in all republics and autonomous regions, at least in school. a citizen studied the language of the nationality in the territory of the republic of which he lived! although the boys were easier! fought nose smoked. But nat language though did not speak but understood. yes really crap kaka-that.
    1. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 23 October 2015 08: 13 New
      +6
      Only this subject was something like singing - all five have and nobody knows a damn ...
    2. Morrrow
      Morrrow 23 October 2015 09: 36 New
      +2
      This is the most law in the universe. If I am Russian, then I have to study Russian folk culture and the Russian language, right?
      1. Morrrow
        Morrrow 23 October 2015 10: 01 New
        0
        the most stupid *
  • blizart
    blizart 23 October 2015 07: 48 New
    +8
    If Russia is strong, influential and interesting, not only Russians will speak Russian. Otherwise ... it's scary to even think. And it must not be allowed.
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    2. Morrrow
      Morrrow 23 October 2015 09: 39 New
      +6
      This position is called ... lest. If France is strong, then I will remain a Frenchman - if on the contrary, then a German? So what? But did you know that Alsatians and Lorraine for the most part remained faithful to France even at the time of the crushing defeat of the Second Empire and the siege of Paris in 1871. This is where the real brotherhood is.
  • AllXVahhaB
    AllXVahhaB 23 October 2015 08: 10 New
    -1
    Also, I think from a molehill, they inflate ...
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 23 October 2015 10: 35 New
      +7
      This fly has grown to the size of a bologna ..
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 23 October 2015 08: 33 New
    +1
    Mova should be banned. Point. Otherwise, the second Donbass is only a matter of time. First make non-Russians, and then anti-Russians, as happened on the former. Ukraine.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 23 October 2015 10: 34 New
      +6
      Mova should be banned. Point. Otherwise, the second Donbass is only a matter of times


      But why so ... They just need to or integrate into Russia with the loss of sovereignty.
      ONCE AGAIN - with loss of sovereignty... let the mova remain - local cultures are great!
      OR the way of Finland / Ukraine (as lucky)
      But I'm afraid not lucky.
      It is not interesting for us in Russia to feed the generation of "national youth".
    2. Your friend
      Your friend 23 October 2015 14: 01 New
      +1
      Belarus is another state that you want to ban there. Yes, even if they say Yiddish, the main thing is that kiwi and oysters are not brought to Russia.
      1. Rader
        Rader 23 October 2015 21: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Your friend
        Belarus is another state that you want to ban there. Yes, even if they say Yiddish, the main thing is that kiwi and oysters are not brought to Russia.

        And what do you like Belarusian kiwi, mazarella and salmon (grown apparently in the swamps ...) did not like ??? wassat laughing
        1. Your friend
          Your friend 23 October 2015 21: 42 New
          0
          Quote: Rader
          Quote: Your friend
          Belarus is another state that you want to ban there. Yes, even if they say Yiddish, the main thing is that kiwi and oysters are not brought to Russia.

          And what do you like Belarusian kiwi, mazarella and salmon (grown apparently in the swamps ...) did not like ??? wassat laughing

          Well, it smells like a swamp.
  • metropolity
    metropolity 23 October 2015 08: 37 New
    14
    Quote: by001261
    I set a minus article, I was born and raised in Belarus, and even with the union there were objects in the Belarusian language, you should not make Russophobes from Belarusians, this is far from the case!

    In Ukraine, it once started something like this. The question is not in language, but in the imposition of identity. If anything, then he spent all the holidays with Polochany near Molodechno or in Tolkachi near Shklov. So I see it in my family. Unfortunately, among them there is a local "banderie".
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 23 October 2015 10: 31 New
      +6
      In Ukraine, it began sometime around this. The question is not in language, but in the imposition of identity


      So I already wrote about it: Belarus had two ways - to Russia and the Ukrainian ..
      while Blue-eyed moves on the second.
  • Amatar
    Amatar 23 October 2015 08: 44 New
    -3
    The author, because of his fear, himself incites Russophobia in Belarus
    1. Morrrow
      Morrrow 23 October 2015 09: 42 New
      +6
      Yeah, so you are not against Russophobia, it is enough to give reasons.
    2. Olezhek
      Olezhek 23 October 2015 10: 29 New
      +1
      The author, because of his fear, himself incites Russophobia in Belarus


      The problem is however ... request
    3. Your friend
      Your friend 23 October 2015 14: 03 New
      +4
      "Russophobia in Belarusians" - oh, how it sounds, but "Belarusians' Russians" don't sound at all, because they don't.
      1. Amatar
        Amatar 3 December 2015 09: 21 New
        -1
        witty remark hi And your article is not Belarusophobic in your opinion?
  • Vikxnumx
    Vikxnumx 23 October 2015 09: 11 New
    +1
    There are two types of schools in Belarus: in Russian and in Belarusian.
    A higher education all in Russian! Is it Russophobia?
    And everyone speaks Russian interspersed with Belarusian words. So come to Stavropol and Kuban and listen to the "local MOV"!
    Do not look for a black cat in ....
    I regularly visit relatives and can answer for my words.
    1. Morrrow
      Morrrow 23 October 2015 09: 40 New
      +6
      The trend is more important than the facts. Look at the trend.
  • Oldblind
    Oldblind 23 October 2015 09: 26 New
    -1
    The article is a provocation of pure water.
  • Morrrow
    Morrrow 23 October 2015 10: 02 New
    +3
    You still can’t sit on two chairs in Belarus. Sooner or later, you still have to choose between Poland and Russia.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 23 October 2015 10: 28 New
      +5
      Let them choose and the sooner the better.
      But it was necessary to start with the economy, and not with Mova ...
    2. Starik72
      Starik72 23 October 2015 13: 36 New
      +1
      Morrrow Why do you not like us Belarusians so much?
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 23 October 2015 14: 04 New
        +3
        Quote: Starik72
        Morrrow Why do you not like us Belarusians so much?

        Eeeeee, you are not women to love you.)
  • Olezhek
    Olezhek 23 October 2015 10: 07 New
    +3
    And something everyone rushed to make excuses ...
    The trend however ...
    Speak - the union state ?? Oh well.
    Guys, I have already thrown a couple of articles on Belarus: "Minsk Disagreements" and "Why Batka lost" and commented
    a couple of articles by other authors on Belarus.
    There is a problem ... It has a place to be. And everything is much more disgusting and neglected
    Apparently I'll write another little article. But my diagnosis: civilized divorce and relations as with Finland.
    Do you want to talk on the move and be friends with eurogames? Not a problem at all.
    Want a part of Rzhecz Pospolita? - your choice.
    To be friends with the Old Man is like cutting a piglet - "there is a lot of screeching and little wool."
    Probably we already need to be defined in Russia. Similar Kresy means Similar Kresy ..
    By the way - not the worst option.
    1. Oldman
      Oldman 23 October 2015 11: 17 New
      -1
      There is a problem ..
      -------------------------
      The problem is with your head. This is evident without a diagnosis.
      1. Olezhek
        Olezhek 23 October 2015 11: 55 New
        +4
        Comrade Oldman, I can't help but take the opportunity and not thank the Belarusian for all possible help.
        Here sanctions were imposed against us, we are counter-sanctions
        So the fraternal Belarusian Old Man just became a wall on our side ..
        or rather a "hole in the wall" ...
        Thank! - I'm sure the war will happen tomorrow, the old man will immediately call the Kremlin and ..
        will ask "and will I have a lope? - They did not promise me more in Brussels .."
        1. Starik72
          Starik72 23 October 2015 13: 42 New
          -1
          Olezhka! Treat your head !!! My advice is now clear.
    2. Starik72
      Starik72 23 October 2015 13: 40 New
      -1
      Olezhek. You apparently drunk great yesterday and your head hurts, go hungover, and if it doesn’t help, then HEAD THE HEAD!
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 23 October 2015 14: 07 New
        +4
        Quote: Starik72
        Olezhek. You apparently drunk great yesterday and your head hurts, go hungover, and if it doesn’t help, then HEAD THE HEAD!

        What did he say wrong? "Too much drink", "TREAT YOUR HEAD" - ah well done, just clever, meaningful answers and never offensive.
    3. bordos
      bordos 23 October 2015 16: 47 New
      +1
      and, so these were your paranoid epics about how insidious Belarus intrigues? laughing
      You know, I would mark all your articles as inciting discord between fraternal peoples.
      what Russia definitely doesn’t need right now is to lose the most loyal border ally in the light of the tense geopolitical situation.
      stop firing up.
      Belarusians sincerely welcome Russian victories in all areas from sports to record milkings. and may it continue to be so.
      good already.
    4. bordos
      bordos 23 October 2015 16: 47 New
      0
      and, so these were your paranoid epics about how insidious Belarus intrigues? laughing
      You know, I would mark all your articles as inciting discord between fraternal peoples.
      what Russia definitely doesn’t need right now is to lose the most loyal border ally in the light of the tense geopolitical situation.
      stop firing up.
      Belarusians sincerely welcome Russian victories in all areas from sports to record milkings. and may it continue to be so.
      good already.
  • Morrrow
    Morrrow 23 October 2015 10: 14 New
    +5
    Young nations do not know what true friendship is. They used to be clogged with slaves. So it is with the Belarusian zmagars - servility breaks out to the Polish owner, who will beat and scold like the last cattle.
  • Hardy
    Hardy 23 October 2015 10: 14 New
    +5
    Quote: by001261
    I set a minus article, I was born and raised in Belarus, and even with the union there were objects in the Belarusian language, you should not make Russophobes from Belarusians, this is far from the case!

    You can certainly not notice the problem. I have many friends who come from western Ukraine and Belarus who live in Russia, but they regularly visit their relatives. And Russophobia from those and other rushing is exactly the same. Of course, they do not say that they hate Russians. And in general, they try not to show their attitude especially. But resentment, envy and irritation towards Russia is felt in them.

    You need to understand that loved ones can not live nearby. They should live either together, or the farther the better))) And now these countries are like grown children sitting on the neck of their parents and hating them for it. And the more they receive from Russia, the more they hate it.

    The most active part of the population of the former republics naturally (naturally, because whatever you say, Russia itself has put them outside its border, having already allowed the country to collapse twice in a hundred years) wants to create their own identity and for this they need to completely break with Russia. Otherwise, our culture, though trampled, but still powerful will not let them go. Language in this case is an effective way to isolate oneself from a neighbor. And this is neither bad nor good. This is just a reflection of Russia's weakness, not economic, but cultural. Because a person is not only a stomach, but also, to a much greater extent, a fantasy. In any powerful culture, intangible values ​​are higher than material ones, for the sake of a dream we are ready to endure a lot. And the collapse of the USSR, and before that of Russia, is precisely connected with the fact that the "stomach" defeated reason.
    And of course, as soon as our "undergrown offspring" leave the "mother", then they, naive, immediately put on shoes)))) Such is the garbage ...
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 23 October 2015 11: 07 New
      +1
      I have many friends from Western Ukraine and Belarus who live in Russia, but they regularly visit their relatives. And Russophobia of these and other rushing is exactly the same. Of course they do not claim that Russians are hated


      Russia is not a hundred baksiv to please everyone
      Zvinyayte Panov ... hi
      1. Turkir
        Turkir 23 October 2015 11: 49 New
        +1
        Conclusion:
        You can love Russia, but only for a hundred dollars.
  • 0255
    0255 23 October 2015 10: 27 New
    +3
    The article is complete nonsense. At school I taught world history, the history of Belarus, mathematics, physics, chemistry, geography, biology to our own native lamenter, Belarusian and Belarusian, and nothing, I did not become a Russophobe, I speak and think in Russian.
    But "belaruskaja latinica" is complete nonsense.
    And those Belarusians who do not support the return of Crimea to the Russian Federation think that Putin attacked Ukraine and are looking to the west, who consider themselves Litvin according to opposition propaganda or "young Belarusian national" according to official propaganda, most of them also speak pure Russian.
    By the way, Belarusianization was carried out under the USSR
    1. Morrrow
      Morrrow 23 October 2015 10: 34 New
      +5
      Is the history of Belarus very different from the history of the rest of Russia?
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 23 October 2015 14: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: Morrrow
        Is the history of Belarus very different from the history of the rest of Russia?

        Well, then, Belarusians are not Russians, but Litvinians. Russian barbarians destroyed the European state ON. And yes, the Russians are Mordovians.
  • Y_w_p
    Y_w_p 23 October 2015 10: 36 New
    +1
    Oh, here it is !! Popper !!! Who is this scribbler? I wonder who it is and how it infringes on the rights of Russians and the Russian language in Belarus? Or does this type deny the right of the people to their native language? Signs in Russian should be because in a union state? Show me a sign in Belarusian in Russia, or a pointer? Will you find? Or should only Russians be respected? These are precisely the admirers of the Russian world who do not remember and do not honor the history of their homeland (he wrote that he lives in Belarus) and there is the greatest danger to normal good neighborly relations between countries and peoples. I respect both Russia and the Russian people and the Russian language, but we should not refuse the exact same right and the Belarusians.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 23 October 2015 10: 42 New
      +3
      Or does this type deny the people’s right to their native language?

      there is the greatest danger to normal good-neighborly relations between countries and peoples. I respect Russia and the Russian people and the Russian language, but we should not be denied exactly the same right to us Belarusians.


      Guys are not a problem, not a problem at all - I propose to build relations with Belarus, as with Finland ..
      Do you agree?
      Option when Belarus uses all the advantages, but demonstrates a fully independent policy of all already pulled up in Russia
      Therefore, as with Finland. yes
      Does it suit you?
      1. bordos
        bordos 23 October 2015 17: 16 New
        -1
        and you ask your foreign ministry how they are not worried about the growing cooperation between Finland and NATO?
        and what are the military-political risks in the possible deployment of operational-tactical missiles near Mogilev?
        feeling that the articles were written by a man in the street with a "Tagil" tattoo
        1. Olezhek
          Olezhek 23 October 2015 19: 04 New
          0
          and what are the military-political risks in the possible deployment of operational-tactical missiles near Mogilev?


          1 Ask the Great Cuffs - they already have a fucking cloud of rockets placed on them - there is nowhere to plow
          OTP alone

          2 Belarusians are undoubtedly the first, but not in friendship with Russia, but in "marketing" this friendship ..
          "friends like us, you will not buy anywhere"
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    2. Morrrow
      Morrrow 23 October 2015 10: 43 New
      +4
      And to begin with, answer who the Belarusians are? Are these Poles Russophobes? Lithuanian Russophobia. Or is it the heirs of the Principality of Polotsk? How many Russians do you have? Should Russians love the Commonwealth and ON?
      1. lesnik1978
        lesnik1978 23 October 2015 19: 18 New
        +3
        We still had a small principality of Turov lol
    3. lesnik1978
      lesnik1978 23 October 2015 20: 17 New
      0
      In the federal regions of Russia (for example, Yakutia) they write in two. Russian in Belarus is the state language. So my requirements are absolutely legal. And recently, the news showed that on the building, which after the war housed the UN mission, two commemorative plates were installed: one in Belarusian, the other in English. Where is the third in Russian !? Zadolbali already impose the Polish-Kholuy language, which was invented on a farm somewhere near Vilnos by representatives of the arduous driven Polish gentry! You write in one language, be so kind as to write in Russian, since it is a state language.
  • Olezhek
    Olezhek 23 October 2015 10: 48 New
    +4
    Explorer (1) EU Today, 08: 37

    It turns out that the author "prohibits" a sovereign state to promote its nat. the language that was "pushed" into the background in the 90s? The consequences, I think, are known


    I'll be annoying to the point of nausea: Guys, it's not a question - if you want sovereignty - "take as much as you can take away."
    But relations are between two foreign countries. Here is how now between Ukraine and Russia.
    We do not need anything from them and we are not going to help them.
    Or as with Finland (was part of RI)

    But "an independent and completely subsidized state" is a fake.

    We quarreled with the Ukrainians for a long time, they also argued that nothing threatened the Russian language there.
    And you see how well it ended.
    By the way, I am generally satisfied with the results of the Krainskaya Zrada .. tongue
    1. 0255
      0255 23 October 2015 11: 19 New
      +4
      Quote: Olezhek
      We quarreled with the Ukrainians for a long time, they also argued that nothing threatened the Russian language there.

      Our "stability", with constant devaluations, with a killed industry, the highest prices and taxes, rather contributes to the Belarusian pro-Western sentiments. Plus opposition propaganda about the good west and bad Russia, which is written in both languages.
      The official state nonsense that we are "a young nation and a young state" is spoken in Russian.
      Russophobia in our country is promoted not by the Belarusian language, but by the very fact that the state and the opposition are convinced that we are not Russians, but Belarusians. "Brotherhood" of Russia in the state media depends on whether Putin gave us a loan, opposition media write that Russia is always bad, any - tsarist, Soviet, modern.
      Quote: Olezhek
      And you see how well it ended.
      By the way, I am generally satisfied with the results of the Krainskaya Zrada .. tongue

      Are you happy with what? The fact that the APU shells the territory pro-Russian DNI and LC, dumping everything on Russia? People are dying in pro-Russian regions, Bandera Lviv or Ivano-Frankivsk no one shells, in the same Slavyansk and Kramatorsk after Strelkov left for a year now there have been no fights. The shooting of law enforcement officers in Mukachevo or the recent detonation of grenades in Kiev, rallies of dissatisfied Poroshenko in the rest of Ukraine - these are trifles compared to what Donetsk and Lugansk survived.
      For Ukrainians and Belarusians, the Russian world is already associated with the destroyed LDNR, they argue "where is Russia there is war"
      1. Olezhek
        Olezhek 23 October 2015 19: 08 New
        +1

        Satisfied with what? The fact that the APU shelling the territory of the pro-Russian DNR and LC, blaming everything on Russia? People are dying in the pro-Russian regions, no one shelling Bandera Lviv or Ivano-Frankivsk


        I am pleased that we have decided in relations with Ukraine, it is expensive.

        For Ukrainians and Belarusians, the Russian world is already associated with the destroyed LDNR, they argue "where is Russia there is war"


        After the Odessa massacre, the reasoning of Ukrainians is less interesting to me.
        And yes, you are right - if Stalin had not resisted Hitler, there would be no war.
        WHERE IS RUSSIA THERE IS WAR TO FASCISM!
        1. 0255
          0255 23 October 2015 20: 06 New
          0
          Quote: Olezhek
          For Ukrainians and Belarusians, the Russian world is already associated with the destroyed LDNR, they argue "where is Russia there is war"

          And yes, you are right - if Stalin had not resisted Hitler, there would be no war.
          WHERE IS RUSSIA THERE IS WAR TO FASCISM!

          Actually, I brought the opinion of Belarusian Russophobes, and not mine. I myself am for Russia
          1. Olezhek
            Olezhek 23 October 2015 21: 16 New
            0
            Difficult to think, colleague, did not understand request at once
    2. viking1703
      viking1703 23 October 2015 14: 23 New
      +4
      You Teska is a provocateur.

      And the provocateur wrote this article.

      In Mogilev, we have all signs with the name of the streets in Russian. Some are duplicated in the Belarusian language, especially on pedestrian streets, namely Lenin Boulevard - the old names are still pre-revolutionary, as a tribute to our ancestors.
      And if you do not like Belarus as a friend, then keep your filthy opinion in yourself.
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 23 October 2015 15: 17 New
        -1
        Quote: viking1703
        viking1703 Today, 14:23 PM ↑
        You Teska is a provocateur.

        And the provocateur wrote this article.

        In Mogilev, we have all signs with the name of the streets in Russian. Some are duplicated in the Belarusian language, especially on pedestrian streets, namely Lenin Boulevard - the old names are still pre-revolutionary, as a tribute to our ancestors.
        And if you do not like Belarus as a friend, then keep your filthy opinion in yourself.


        In general, I do not like Belarus as a friend, because it is not clear what she is "a friend". Just as Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Armenia do not need a friend .... We have a lot of our own problems, but we distribute loans to the right and to the left, instead of solving our problems.
        And why do you shut up your mouths, you insane you ours?
  • Y_w_p
    Y_w_p 23 October 2015 10: 50 New
    -1
    Quote: Olezhek
    Therefore, as with Finland.

    By the way, this is a good option. But the best thing is for everyone to calm down and not look for a black cat in a dark room. Well, no one in Belarus has a biased and negative attitude towards the Russian people or the language. To the policy of the Russian state, yes there is a different attitude and a different opinion. But Great Russian chauvinism you should have less.
    Quote: Morrrow
    Should Russians love the Commonwealth and ON?
    Well, if you go into history then why should Belarusians love Russians and the Russian empire? For forced accession? For the Northern War? For other war games? All this must be remembered, but after some time it seems only to the true Russian patriots it causes such a storm of indignation and anger? Remember the right of the strong and justify it? So why are you surprised that you are not loved?
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 23 October 2015 11: 02 New
      +2
      By the way a good option

      Ideal.

      .
      But the best thing is for everyone to calm down and not to look for a black cat in a dark room. Well, no one in Belarus has a biased and negative attitude towards the Russian people or the language.

      Any Ukrainian swears in the same name of the Pope


      To the policy of the Russian state, yes, there are different attitudes and different opinions.
      But Great Russian chauvinism should be smaller.


      Robyats - all our problems are due to "unsettled relations".
      Daddy played the fool for 15 years with the "Union State" and received subsidies.
      After 08 08 08, they decided to cover up the shop and Belarus started to have serious problems

      You have not supported Russia in any of the wars, unfortunately. request
      A strange situation has arisen when the problems of Belarus are the problems of the fraternal people, and the problems of Russia concern only hers. request

      The relationship that has developed, we are no longer satisfied. From the word absolutely.
      It is pointless to be offended here. "Brotherhood" should not turn into a "nipple system".
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    3. Morrrow
      Morrrow 23 October 2015 12: 50 New
      +2
      Because you are part of Russia. You are the Principality of Polotsk. Everything else is Polish slavery.
  • Olezhek
    Olezhek 23 October 2015 11: 06 New
    +4
    Gentlemen of Belarus - who disagree with me, cite as an example a couple of countries whose relations should be a model for Russia and Belarus ..
    (Poland-USA is not necessary - I have already unsubscribed - it is OTHER relations there)
    Just give an example of what you would like from real life.
    1. noWAR
      noWAR 23 October 2015 11: 20 New
      -5
      Quote: Olezhek
      Gentlemen of Belarus - who disagree with me, cite as an example a couple of countries whose relations should be a model for Russia and Belarus ..

      RSFSR and BSSR. In general, tired of whining, heartfelt angry
      1. Olezhek
        Olezhek 23 October 2015 11: 50 New
        +4
        RSFSR and BSSR.


        Then there was the USSR and there was no Farther
    2. Y_w_p
      Y_w_p 23 October 2015 11: 24 New
      -3
      Quote: Olezhek
      Gentlemen of Belarus - who disagree with me, cite as an example a couple of countries whose relations should be a model for Russia and Belarus ..

      Czech Republic and Slovakia, Austria and Germany, and the same Canada and the United States.
      1. Olezhek
        Olezhek 23 October 2015 11: 51 New
        +4
        Czech Republic and Slovakia, Austria and Germany, and the same Canada and the United States.


        tell me colleagues - is Germany sponsoring Austria or vice versa?
        All 6 states are economically independent.
        Example does not roll
    3. Y_w_p
      Y_w_p 23 October 2015 11: 24 New
      0
      Quote: Olezhek
      Gentlemen of Belarus - who disagree with me, cite as an example a couple of countries whose relations should be a model for Russia and Belarus ..

      Czech Republic and Slovakia, Austria and Germany, and the same Canada and the United States.
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 23 October 2015 14: 20 New
        +2
        Quote: Y_w_p
        Quote: Olezhek
        Gentlemen of Belarus - who disagree with me, cite as an example a couple of countries whose relations should be a model for Russia and Belarus ..

        Czech Republic and Slovakia, Austria and Germany, and the same Canada and the United States.

        In Prague, there is a monument where a Czech is on the map of the Czech Republic, and a Slovak is on the map of Slovakia and they, pardon the expression "stump" at each other. As if they are basically indifferent to each other now.
    4. Morrrow
      Morrrow 23 October 2015 12: 50 New
      0
      Belgium and France.
      1. Olezhek
        Olezhek 23 October 2015 13: 02 New
        +1
        Belgium and France


        Who is sponsoring whom? And who exclusively provides the market for someone?
        1. Morrrow
          Morrrow 23 October 2015 13: 18 New
          0
          They are equal. The Belgian people did not betray the French either in 1914 or in 1940 - that is what is important.
      2. Walking
        Walking 23 October 2015 14: 43 New
        +4
        Lukashenko himself fuels nationalism in an attempt to balance and gradually approaches the brink. Unification with Russia is not suitable for him, so at the same time he will lose power, Putin is stronger than him, but he also cannot quarrel at all, he needs energy supplies and a place to sell products of Belarusian factories, so he turns around.
        1. Olezhek
          Olezhek 23 October 2015 14: 53 New
          +3
          trying to balance and gradually coming to the brink.


          As if yes, I’m writing just for this - Belarus now or to Russia or tryndets ...
          The time of maneuvers came to an end .. request
  • pwaulmj
    pwaulmj 23 October 2015 11: 19 New
    +2
    I agree with the comment that we have HUGE economic problems and they need to be solved first of all and, I don’t understand why we need to get involved in the affairs of another country, we will figure it out ourselves. And I advise those who are especially curious to solve their problems at first (if you think that the language is the most important) - in some "Russian" cities there is no Russian language, incl. in Moscow, it is being eradicated, like the indigenous people. And the Chinese do not want to go to Vladivostok, because there are almost only Chinese. It's funny, isn't it? (I can duplicate in Belarusian wink )
    1. avt
      avt 23 October 2015 11: 35 New
      +5
      Quote: pwaalmj
      why go into the affairs of another country, we will figure it out ourselves.

      Yes, it’s not a question, only then first pay off the loans yourself and be awful for the victory of Europeanism in the struggle for the victory of pederasty all over the world, just don’t forget to prepare premises for receiving refugees according to the Euroquota, and at the same time count about restitutions, well, what have you owed to proud Lyakhs in time, , occupation "by the Empire and the USSR.
      Quote: pwaalmj
      in some "Russian" cities there is no Russian language, incl. in Moscow

      laughing Oh, I get these well-versed Natsik. laughing
      Quote: pwaalmj
      And the Chinese do not want to go to Vladivostok, because there are almost only Chinese.

      The character of the anecdote is straightforward - "It's dark like an Arab's ass." "And you know all that Vasil and you've been everywhere!"
      Quote: pwaalmj
      . Funny, isn't it?

      Yes, not the right word! laughing
    2. Your friend
      Your friend 23 October 2015 14: 26 New
      +5
      Quote: pwaalmj
      I agree with the comment that we have HUGE economic problems and they need to be solved first of all and, I don’t understand why we need to get involved in the affairs of another country, we will figure it out ourselves. And I advise those who are especially curious to solve their problems at first (if you think that the language is the most important) - in some "Russian" cities there is no Russian language, incl. in Moscow, it is being eradicated, like the indigenous people. And the Chinese do not want to go to Vladivostok, because there are almost only Chinese. It's funny, isn't it? (I can duplicate in Belarusian wink )

      I've heard this somewhere before ..... um. Aaaaaa, I remembered - "Read this on any site of the nezalezhnoy".)))
    3. parusnik
      parusnik 23 October 2015 19: 35 New
      +1
      in some "Russian" cities there is no Russian language, incl. in Moscow ... Still ... the Russian language never existed ... The crafty Finno-Ugrians stole it from the Old Ukrainians and Old Belorussians .. Remade and called Russian .. Modern Ukrainian and Belarusian scholars still argue in which language the Word about Igor Igorev is written, in Old Ukrainian or Old Belorussian .. wink
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 23 October 2015 20: 04 New
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        Quote: parusnik
        in some "Russian" cities there is no Russian language, incl. in Moscow ... Still ... the Russian language never existed ... The crafty Finno-Ugrians stole it from the Old Ukrainians and Old Belorussians .. Remade and called Russian .. Modern Ukrainian and Belarusian scholars still argue in which language the Word about Igor Igorev is written, in Old Ukrainian or Old Belorussian .. wink

        Well, why are you so, not "Old Belorussians", but Starobel AruSov. This is how Finno-Ugricness, horde and Khazarism creeps out of you.) And Peter 1 ordered the Russians to be called Russians, everyone knows that, at least one of my Ukrainian friends. True, he never said who ordered the Ukrainians to rename themselves from Russians to Ukrainians.
  • kit_bellew
    kit_bellew 23 October 2015 11: 27 New
    +5
    I would like to note one point. The comrades from Belarus present at the forum noted that for the majority of the population of the republic, the Russian language is native. In this regard, in a normal situation on the part of the government, it would be reasonable to hold a referendum: do you, citizens, want to see inscriptions in Russian around you? Or do not want to? Or maybe in both official languages? With deep respect for you - the servants of the people. As you decide, that’s how we will do it.
    And if you arbitrarily took and erased the Russian language from visual perception - it’s worth considering. Perhaps not now, perhaps not even after ten years, but after twenty we will receive in Belarus the same as in Ukraine.
    1. pwaulmj
      pwaulmj 23 October 2015 11: 38 New
      -2
      Will you give us money for the referendum? let it be better for the "servants of the people" to deal with the economy, and the majority of Belarusians are completely satisfied with this "language" situation
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 23 October 2015 14: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: pwaalmj
        Will you give us money for the referendum? let it be better for the "servants of the people" to deal with the economy, and the majority of Belarusians are completely satisfied with this "language" situation

        Otkel do you know that "the majority of the inhabitants of Belarus are completely satisfied with this" language "situation"? Did you hold a referendum? On your own money? Ah, well done, all the others only prove something in words, but you in deeds.
  • van zai
    van zai 23 October 2015 11: 39 New
    +2
    Stuffing. Unequivocal.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 23 October 2015 11: 58 New
      +5
      The problem is short: Lukashenka doesn’t like Russia much, the majority of Russians do not like Lukashenko for his anti-Russian rhetoric

      Such things, what have the Kremlin?
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 23 October 2015 19: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: Olezhek
        most Russians do not like Lukashenko for his anti-Russian rhetoric ...

        They are very vain.
        You are just not in the subject.
        But for what Lukashenko has done and is doing regarding the national issue.
        Russians should put a candle for him in the church every day, 3 times and order a prayer service.
        Are you comfortable with Russians in the Baltic countries?
        This option was also developed in Belarus, and if it had not been for Lukashenko, it would have been implemented. Although it is obscurantism, but that was what happened. But in the Baltic countries there.
        I (and not only I and the majority) are understandably the case against such an unreasonable policy, but the fact remains.
        By the way, the state border (as well as customs and visa control) between Russia and Belarus is absent only due to a personal order, so hated by many Russians Lukashenko.
        1. Your friend
          Your friend 23 October 2015 20: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: prosto_rgb
          Quote: Olezhek
          most Russians do not like Lukashenko for his anti-Russian rhetoric ...


          By the way, the state border (as well as customs and visa control) between Russia and Belarus is absent only due to a personal order, so hated by many Russians Lukashenko.


          Those. Was visa and customs control on the Russian side also canceled by personal order of Alexander Grigoryevich? Strong dad, nothing to say !!!
          1. prosto_rgb
            prosto_rgb 24 October 2015 00: 14 New
            -1
            Quote: Your friend
            Those. visa and customs control from the Russian side

            It has a selective character and works mainly during the next exacerbation in the Rosselkhoznadzor.
            And the arrows should not be translated.
            It discussed what is being done in Belarus and not in Russia.
            1. Your friend
              Your friend 24 October 2015 11: 47 New
              +1
              "It has a selective character and works mainly during the next escalation in Rosselkhoznadzor.
              And the arrows should not be translated. "- oh well, yes," arrows "," aggravation in the Rosselkhoznadzor ", how could I forget about the Belarusian cod, mangoes and apples. Well, yes, yes, an aggravation.
              "What is being discussed here is what is being done in Belarus and not in Russia." - brrrrrr, read carefully what the person wrote, without the consent of the Russian side, control would remain.
  • Y_w_p
    Y_w_p 23 October 2015 11: 42 New
    -1
    Quote: noWAR
    RSFSR and BSSR. In general, tired of whining, heartfelt

    That's for sure.
  • Igor Polovodov
    Igor Polovodov 23 October 2015 11: 57 New
    +4
    The worst thing in this story is the notorious Latinization of the language. Nothing deforms history so much as similar manipulations with the foundations. The next generations who grew up on other symbols will not understand the native images that will turn into archaics for them ...
    The construction of words, the meaning of each symbol of the Cyrillic alphabet, literally "word-formation" will be greatly violated when switching to the Latin alphabet.
    And worst of all, the very connection of kindred peoples will be destroyed.
    The author is definitely a plus! In vain minus !!!
  • Megatron
    Megatron 23 October 2015 12: 02 New
    +6
    But father is clearly overstaying in power and seems to just not know what else you can play.
    Already really tired of his flirting with the West and angry rhetoric on the topic of "brotherhood" for any convenient and inconvenient reason. For some reason, no one says that "Lithuanianism" is being cultivated in the Republic of Belarus, the period of ON in history is being carefully studied, it has become fashionable to look for Lithuanian roots in oneself, etc. The Latin alphabet, of course, can be said for tourists, and then suddenly the mustachioed person will like it so much that it will undoubtedly "at the request of the working people", or even the referendum will fit this matter, with 70% approval, like its own elections. By the way, in Kazakhstan, the transition of the language to the Latin alphabet is also persistently exaggerated. With such a course, the state is clearly following the path of Ukraine, only not so quickly, but still true. Only the fall into this abyss will be much more cruel and bloody, if nothing is started to change now.

    By the way, if someone has already forgotten, then Poland has territorial claims not only to Ukraine, but also to Belarus, quietly glancing at the Baltic states, they are not going to give up their idea of ​​a "great Poland" from sea to sea, and are not going to give up.

    So if the great-power and white-Nazis are coming out, they believe that the "brothers-Poles" are waiting for them with open arms, they should remember how their ancestors lived, and more recently, in the 20s of the 20th century - on the territory of western Ukraine and Belarus, under Polish-lord yoke. In fact, in the position of slaves. When the Poles had large estates, and these same farm laborers worked on them, and in fact - slaves.

    In Europe, there were always 2 forces that crushed the stinking Polish blood-sucking tick, these are Germany and Russia, but since the former has already lost all its strength, and more than the average regional power, no one perceives it, has sped up, has grown thin and gradually turcified and Arabized . Even tanks already have brooms instead of guns.
    And Poland was just on the rise of national identity and nationalism, of migrants, I did not hear what they were receiving, and thousands of strong young Poles did not ambiguously demonstrate, showing with their fists that they were not happy with the Arabs.

    So now the only force that can ensure freedom, equality and simply survival as nations of Ukrainians and Belarusians is Russia. Otherwise, they are waiting for the reigning and prohibition of slavish gentlemen.
    1. pwaulmj
      pwaulmj 23 October 2015 12: 07 New
      0
      “When we, the presidents, talk about this in a narrow circle, I say: they say, Vladimir Vladimirovich (Putin), don’t worry, we have no tension in this part. You should strain, because part of the Pskov, Smolensk and Bryansk lands once belonged to Belarus, "Lukashenko said.
      1. avt
        avt 23 October 2015 12: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: pwaalmj
        , Smolensk and Bryansk lands once belonged to Belarus, "Lukashenko said.

        laughing
        Quote: avt
        ... This new story is being introduced in the post-Soviet space and gives the answer -How now the small nations leading the genealogy from the "shakers of the universe" came to such a life.

        Well, what are actually many on the site and point out - "go vegan dogogo tovagischi!" In the footsteps of the great ukrov, well, for now, at the balls. The Poles wrote a story about the Scythian tribe ukrov during the time of Emperor Alexander No. 1, then they decided to lean against Batskaya the imperial project of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania into a clean loser in the eastern direction and the rest of them fell under the Rzeczpospolita, and in the form of slaves, because the Polish project of the empire from May to May did not imply international content, it was exclusively mono-national, which is why it lost to the Russian Empire in the same way. Or maybe you will start a dispute about who built the pyramids in Egypt? In general, the current attempts of the Belarusians to create a Lithuanian language with the Lithuanian language, and even lean against the old Great Lithuanian imperial project in the present territory with the current material and human resources, but at the present time ... laughing - The grandmother remembered as a deuka. laughing
      2. Your friend
        Your friend 23 October 2015 14: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: pwaalmj
        “When we, the presidents, talk about this in a narrow circle, I say: they say, Vladimir Vladimirovich (Putin), don’t worry, we have no tension in this part. You should strain, because part of the Pskov, Smolensk and Bryansk lands once belonged to Belarus, "Lukashenko said.

        Uh, no, Ukrainians brothers set their sights on Smolensk lands. Do you want to offend your brother?
      3. Megatron
        Megatron 23 October 2015 17: 30 New
        +3
        Yeah, it makes him even more're coming out-Nazis, who also declare "historical claims" to the Belgorod and Rostov regions.
  • Olezhek
    Olezhek 23 October 2015 12: 16 New
    +6
    “To my shame, I have never been to Tbilisi, and, in fact, nowhere in Georgia, except Abkhazia. As a historian, I read a lot about Georgia and I know a lot, ”added Lukashenko.

    http://topwar.ru/73823-aleksandr-lukashenko-nazyval-abhaziyu-chastyu-gruzii-v-ho
    de-peregovorov-v-tbilisi.html

    It is just that a person needs to decide on which side he is on. How thin Kremlin trolling is not rolling.
  • Olezhek
    Olezhek 23 October 2015 12: 20 New
    +2
    Happiness is .. it can not eat ..
    1. Megatron
      Megatron 23 October 2015 12: 30 New
      +5
      By the way, if someone has already forgotten, the father did not recognize Abkhazia, South Ossetia and the Crimea as part of the Russian Federation, he then croaked something, such as de facto it happened, but still not at the official level.
  • meGrail
    meGrail 23 October 2015 12: 42 New
    -3
    Quote: Megatron
    By the way, if someone has already forgotten, the father did not recognize Abkhazia, South Ossetia and the Crimea as part of the Russian Federation, he then croaked something, such as de facto it happened, but still not at the official level.

    Yes, but you keep in mind that Belarus is not Russia, and it’s not able to withstand strong sanctions that, if recognized, would have fallen on it, as Lukashenko said.
    And the article is so-so! Once I found my mother’s textbooks in the attic, so my eyes went to my forehead - in the most international USSR, textbooks on mathematics, history - in Belarusian! And, she said that teaching was on the move.
    1. Megatron
      Megatron 23 October 2015 12: 55 New
      +1
      Isn’t it possible to cheat Belarus on sanctions? Almost all exports go to the Russian Federation, from there are loans and energy. There are no accounts in Western banks either. What are you afraid of?

      The mustachioed does this in order to keep Russia in a certain tension, like you won’t please me - there is where to go. And all these games of nationalism are his personal whim, there is Nazarbayev, that one is Elbasy, Putin is the leader of the nation, and he somehow fades against their background. He looked very advantageous against Yeltsin, by the way, therefore, it was precisely on our side that the joint state project was torpedoed in those years, because if you had declared yourself father at the general presidential election, you would have lost the fight-drunk despite all the elective technologies and fraud .
      He also lost to the crocodile-siu then, in the 96th, but managed to come to an agreement with him, leaked the "commie" shamefully his victory.
    2. Y_w_p
      Y_w_p 23 October 2015 13: 00 New
      -1
      Well, for example, I studied before the 7th grade in Belarusian textbooks (that is, in Belarusian), my two older brothers, too (time from 1965 to 1980) then in Russian then a university, and what got into a Russophobe? Here you are stubborn Russians, well, there is no Russophobia, no hostility to the Russian language with us. But here you are eager to find something. Each nation has the right to its own story on its own point of view. And here you begin to act according to the Bolshevik principle, who is not with us is against us. By the way, there should also be elementary respect, that's why in the same Baltic, Russians do not need to know local languages? Arrived live in my opinion and it is necessary. Or just Russian and a point.
    3. avt
      avt 23 October 2015 13: 10 New
      +6
      Quote: meGrail
      Belarus is not Russia, and it’s not able to withstand strong sanctions that, if recognized, would have fallen on it, as Lukashenko said.

      laughing This aria of a killed deer from the opera "Tales of the Vienna Woods" is already tired of listening, as well as about the sanctions that the EU is promising to abolish from 2016. Belarus NEVER WAS NEVER under serious sanctions. West ,,, the last dictator of Europe, restricted to travel abroad, "quite went with Kolya to the Vatican. I wanted to pocket the dough for an easy one - his right, for recognition - but broke off and carried nonsense about the fact that, if only, if only, but in his mouth mushrooms grew ... "
    4. Olezhek
      Olezhek 23 October 2015 18: 29 New
      +1
      Yes, but you keep in mind that Belarus is not Russia, and unable to resist strong sanctions,

      Learn from Nicaragua ...
      Recognized and not to be afraid of anything ...
  • falikreutov
    falikreutov 23 October 2015 12: 48 New
    0
    A contrived problem! Every year I go with my children to Grodno (if anyone does not know, this is western Belarus) - so there are no problems with the Russian language !!! No need to invent nonsense!
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 23 October 2015 13: 04 New
      +4
      My brother to the Maidan, regularly wound in Lviv.
      DO NOT TRUST! There are no problems with Russian at all!
  • nord62
    nord62 23 October 2015 12: 54 New
    0
    Quote: by001261
    I set a minus article, I was born and raised in Belarus, and even with the union there were objects in the Belarusian language, you should not make Russophobes from Belarusians, this is far from the case!

    The patient wrote the article for the whole head, or the second option - the mattresses gave him an order and paid with pieces of silver. I am BELARUS, I speak only RUSSIAN, and on the inscription, the person living here (Kalmyk, Tatar, Russian, Armenian and others) do not pay any attention. Television in Russian, newspapers too, the Internet (Belarusian sites) in Russian, state and private office work in Russian - so, hostility of the face - do not drive the blizzard, do not storm in a glass of water!
    Belarus doesn’t give calmly foreign foreign dolbyadtylam and their liberal servants sleep peacefully - so shoot yourself! angry
  • Megatron
    Megatron 23 October 2015 13: 04 New
    +1
    All these "great" polands, romania, hungary, armenia, turans and ports are the same Frankenstein and ghosts, from the same series as the "caliphate", which is now trying to build isis. And to flirt with these homonculi from the past means to shed rivers of blood, as is done, we now perfectly see.
    1. Y_w_p
      Y_w_p 23 October 2015 13: 09 New
      0
      Well, do not flirt with the past, why remember the Russian Empire? Also want to shed blood rivers?
      1. Morrrow
        Morrrow 23 October 2015 13: 22 New
        +4
        Do you deny the cultural community of Belarusians and Great Russians?
        1. Y_w_p
          Y_w_p 23 October 2015 13: 49 New
          +3
          That's just what I didn’t talk about. There is and will be community. Just why do you call yourself Great Russians?
          1. avt
            avt 23 October 2015 13: 55 New
            +3
            Quote: Y_w_p
            . Just why do you call yourself Great Russians?

            "But because you are few and there is only one trunk" laughing
            1. Y_w_p
              Y_w_p 23 October 2015 14: 05 New
              +5
              Nothing. We are few but we are in vests !!!! And if the trunk is surely not one is buried !!! By the way, seriously, here is one m ..... above that he wrote that the type of Belgians of the French, unlike us, apparently did not betray a war of 1 or 2 world war. But I fundamentally disagree about this passage, let this type come to Belarus is even simpler, let it learn history. True, I’m completely unsure of what they are now learning in Russia. Even interestingly, it will be necessary to take a textbook and read, is there a Soviet people winner? Or only Russian. For such an insult to the people who gave each 3 or 4 inhabitants for victory, you can give in the face. For me, that the German fascist that the Romanian that the Ukrainian that the Russian, were and will be fascists and subject to destruction. Their traitors are also by the way, and moreover unconditionally.
      2. Megatron
        Megatron 23 October 2015 17: 26 New
        +1
        To my mind, Russia is the only state entity in the whole world that did not enslave and destroy other peoples, but absorbed, preserved and then went on a "joint train". Or would you say that the Russian Empire and the USSR were a "prison of peoples" ???
        The Russian statehood simply saved many nations from destruction by foreigners; local rulers themselves asked the "White Tsar" to come under his arm.
  • Idunavs
    Idunavs 23 October 2015 13: 23 New
    +5
    Gentlemen of Belarus, you are right that at the philistine level there are no problems with languages ​​(with the exception of some personalities, but these personalities have doubled or tripled over the past 10 years), but there is a saying: Fish rots from the head. So the old man is slowly moving along the path of cultural separation from Russia.
    1. viking1703
      viking1703 23 October 2015 14: 38 New
      +1
      What is the gap?
      Do you think that an individual people should not have its own culture ???
      So go and tell your brothers from the Caucasus that they don’t have Russian culture at all.
  • AlexeyKakhanovich
    AlexeyKakhanovich 23 October 2015 14: 15 New
    +1
    I want to send "Velikorosov" for a walk right away. My message to the Russians. Regarding Russophobia: spit on the "faces" of everyone who talks about Russophobes in Belarus, there are about 10 of them all over the country. Any victory of Russia is perceived by us in the same way as our own, 99% of Belarusians will gladly heap amers in the same tub with Russians and nothing not the opposite. In geyrope, we also do not have those who want it, the same 10 people. We are discussing how cool you rolled out of the Caspian and how Obama is stupid. It's even a shame to read such articles after that! Lukashenka has his own "style", but this is politics, and our country is not the one to do everything "nicely", they will drown us in a week, you are unlikely to save us, only on the condition of the western region, so the dad is balancing as best he can , it's not for you to judge us, we only have a lot of peat and potatoes. As for ordinary people, I have already said, but if you are scared by language like incense, then this is not our problem, let us at least listen to your language sometimes. And with such stupid little articles, we ourselves will spread the fire, and then set it on fire for a short time. We did not have Bandera, there is no hatred for the Russians, here you really don't know who you are by nationality. Another question is that we do not need any "polite people", this will definitely be the end of friendship, and so you are welcome. And you can believe, no matter what the politicians say at the top, if it smells of fried, then together we will defend Moscow and drive them to "theirs" capital at T72, we cannot, and we cannot do otherwise. So do not fool us, do not be paranoid, we have traffic jams on the road to the Stalin line every May 9, what other examples do you need? And the great Russian, who vyaknul about the language of the rural outskirts of RI, you went to the great Russian word: * UY. (moderators, sorry, if you cut, spare the comment itself, thanks)
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 23 October 2015 14: 59 New
      +1
      We are discussing how cool you rolled out of the Caspian and how Obama is stupid. It's even a shame to read such articles after that! Lukashenka has his own style


      Since 91, Russia has almost constantly fought; by the way, Chechens have actually fought in the war against Saakashvili and his American friends.
      Donbas had enough guys from the North Caucasus ..
      Now in Syria .. I somehow am more than confident that there is or will be - we have nowhere to go to LIH to hammer.

      Do you imagine Belarusians somewhere there? Me not. It would be possible to deploy a hospital under the Belarusian flag. But the Old Man firmly decided to build a second Swiss Confederation.

      And for us a lot of people are sick - just recently Carter rushed over, with an ISIS position map ..
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 23 October 2015 20: 24 New
      0
      Quote: AlexeyKakhanovich
      So there is no need to lead slander on us, do not be paranoid, every May 9 we have traffic jams along the road to the Stalin line

      It should be noted that not only May 9th.
      There, by the way, directly opposite the Stalin line, the MKAD2 section was opened 2 weeks ago, so it became even easier to get there.
  • Starik72
    Starik72 23 October 2015 14: 21 New
    +3
    The article is complete nonsense and the author for this article A huge minus! I studied Russian and Belarusian at the school, and by choice one of the European languages. My children went the same way. And grandchildren go the same way. And in Soviet times there were schools with basic Belarusian education, and this time is the same, and most importantly, they also study Russian and a foreign language of their choice. So what is the reason for writing this foul-smelling article, and the reason is to sow hatred between BELO RUSA and RUSA, as the previous articles were placed here. NOW YOU CAN MINUS ME AT LEAST REPAIR !!! And to the moderators I was of a higher opinion to YOU! And now I’ll ask: if I turn to YOU ​​commentators in the BELARUSIAN LANGUAGE, will you understand me or not ??? So what is the difference between these two languages ​​RUSSIAN and BELARUSIAN ???
    1. viking1703
      viking1703 23 October 2015 14: 42 New
      0
      Yes, they side.
      Everything that goes against the patriotic upsurge of Russia is all initially wrong. And how many do not write here - you will not convince them.
    2. Y_w_p
      Y_w_p 23 October 2015 14: 47 New
      0
      But they still may not understand- relatives in the Nizhny Novgorod province understand only because the father of Belarus taught them a bit of their own native language. And they don’t see anything shameful. And somehow they came with acquaintances so they didn’t understand most if they spoke Belarusian with them. And this is normal. In general, the impression is that the army of couch warriors rushed into battle to defend the Russian world with their feet without understanding situation and not knowing the history of not only Belarus but also its Russian.
    3. Your friend
      Your friend 23 October 2015 14: 58 New
      0
      "And now I will ask: if I address YOU commentators in the BELARUSIAN LANGUAGE, will YOU understand me or not ???"

      No, I don’t understand. Was in Belarus a couple of times and talked to one of your local Svidomo. Understood nothing except the word "mos ..... eh". Russian and Belarusian are different languages, as well as Russian and Ukrainian.
      1. Rader
        Rader 23 October 2015 22: 12 New
        +1
        Was in Belarus a couple of times and talked to one of your local Svidomo. Understood nothing except the word "mos ..... eh".

        Have you been to Belarus a couple of times and talked to Svidomo? I live in Minsk, but for some reason I don’t meet these Svidomo ... "If you really want to, you will find the darkness of microbes in the operating room" (c). It is not necessary to draw conclusions about the people on a separate "individual" ...
        1. Your friend
          Your friend 23 October 2015 22: 30 New
          -1
          Quote: Rader
          Was in Belarus a couple of times and talked to one of your local Svidomo. Understood nothing except the word "mos ..... eh".

          Have you been to Belarus a couple of times and talked to Svidomo? I live in Minsk, but for some reason I don’t meet these Svidomo ... "If you really want to, you will find the darkness of microbes in the operating room" (c). It is not necessary to draw conclusions about the people on a separate "individual" ...

          I ask you to give an example, where I draw conclusions about the people of an individual individual?
          Strange, you definitely live in Minsk? There a man over there (at the beginning of comments) threw pictures of red and white, maybe the operating room is not as clean as you think?
  • viking1703
    viking1703 23 October 2015 14: 46 New
    +3
    Here read - maybe let it go:

    ... Yakub Kolas ...

    My relatives are kut, as if you were my miles! ..
    I don’t forget my name!
    More than once, tired of darogai,
    May wretched wretchedly,
    To the tab, I ў think
    I’m stomping my soul there.
    Oh, as if I were a mess
    Darog zhytsstsa pa parade
    Price list of times, azirnutstsa,
    Sabratz z darog kamennі tyya,
    Shto gubyat s_ly malady, -
    To clarify, my hatsў varnutstsa.

    Clear, clear! You are not for my mom!
    Not me, taboo abagrates,
    I stumble over your exit, -
    Cyabe forever, clear, hawaii.
    Do not go back praising me,
    Sto fast swim away.
    More than once Yana, zrabіўshysys couples,
    On the wings of the Sunts dojjo to the Khmaras

    For yazno dazh on the sydze river -
    Nihto z granіts svіh not vyydze,
    Z lawў, zhytsets napisanyh,
    Abo on dol spadze ў mists.
    Ale hto we have a pack?
    On the valley of the snow?
    Won't come back, like praising me
    Ka me, you are clear maladaya! ..

    Eight yak tsyaper, perada by me
    Ўstay kutochak that jumper,
    Krynichky vuzenkaya bed
    І tree ў couples with hvaynoyu,
    Abnyaўsyss tsesna over the vada
    Yak malady ў hour kahannya,
    Ў aposhni evening separation.

    I bachu forest I kalya huts,
    Dze kol_sela dzyakchaty
    Spyaval songs to friendly choirs,
    Of the works of the study of the knowledge of the bora.
    Unwanted song of the healthy,
    Ў lyasakh once-again adbіvalіs,
    I іm uzgorkі adklіkalіs,
    І радацць біла ў free songs.
    A needles, elkі centuries
    Pad zykі song malady
    Ў ў ая ая ая ў ка ка уме,,
    I ў ix xihusenechkim noise
    Malaysia
    Ўgaru, holy addiction.
    1. Your friend
      Your friend 23 October 2015 15: 00 New
      -2
      What should let go?
      1. viking1703
        viking1703 23 October 2015 15: 03 New
        0
        tension - which created the news that some of the streets are in Belarusian))))
        1. Your friend
          Your friend 23 October 2015 15: 22 New
          -1
          Quote: viking1703
          tension - which created the news that some of the streets are in Belarusian))))

          Voltage? Who? Yes, even in Polish, even in English. Another state that you want to do something. Who forbids?
    2. lesnik1978
      lesnik1978 23 October 2015 19: 26 New
      -4
      Did you know that Yakub Kolas, like almost the entire galaxy of "Belarusian" writers of that time, were Poles? And the Belarusian in them is only a pseudonym. Don't impose them on us. Let them be studied according to the school curriculum in Poland.
    3. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 23 October 2015 20: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: viking1703
      Here read - maybe let it go:

      ... Yakub Kolas ...

      Will not let go...
      Alas.
    4. Igor Polovodov
      Igor Polovodov 24 October 2015 00: 41 New
      +2
      Sounds beautiful, sincere! And now, instead of the Cyrillic alphabet, from time immemorial, native and common, type verses in "Latin". Can you catch the same images with such picturesqueness? I'm sure not, and your children probably yes ... but the same images as you perceive or others?
      It's all complicated, ambiguous.
    5. Igor Polovodov
      Igor Polovodov 24 October 2015 00: 41 New
      0
      Sounds beautiful, sincere! And now, instead of the Cyrillic alphabet, from time immemorial, native and common, type verses in "Latin". Can you catch the same images with such picturesqueness? I'm sure not, and your children probably yes ... but the same images as you perceive or others?
      It's all complicated, ambiguous.
  • gv2000
    gv2000 23 October 2015 15: 00 New
    +2
    Belarus is not a region of Russia. It is time to understand. No need to go there with provocative articles. What language to speak, write and think is their own business.
    Thank God there are no such mass anti-Russian sentiments as in Ukraine. But with similar articles we will definitely create them.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 23 October 2015 20: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: gv2000
      Belarus is not a region of Russia. It is time to understand. No need to go there with provocative articles. What language to speak, write and think is their own business.
      Thank God there are no such mass anti-Russian sentiments as in Ukraine. But with similar articles we will definitely create them.

      Your words yes to god in ears stubborn uryapatriotm would memorize.
      You look and throws th .. on the fan would be less.
      In Belarus, we don’t have any kind of hatred or Russophobia.
      BUT.
      Nazis all stripes to say the least don't likethat Russian, that Polish, that Ukrainian, that any other ...
      There is that's all foundations.
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 23 October 2015 21: 11 New
        -2
        Quote: prosto_rgb
        Quote: gv2000
        Belarus is not a region of Russia. It is time to understand. No need to go there with provocative articles. What language to speak, write and think is their own business.
        Thank God there are no such mass anti-Russian sentiments as in Ukraine. But with similar articles we will definitely create them.

        Your words yes to god in ears stubborn uryapatriotm would memorize.
        You look and throws th .. on the fan would be less.
        In Belarus, we don’t have any kind of hatred or Russophobia.
        BUT.
        Nazis all stripes to say the least don't likethat Russian, that Polish, that Ukrainian, that any other ...
        There is that's all foundations.


        You are on the list of nationalists - their, homegrown, Belarusian Natsik missed. Hope inattention?
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 24 October 2015 00: 04 New
          -1
          Quote: Your friend
          You are on the list of nationalists - their, homegrown, Belarusian Natsik missed. Hope inattention?

          I didn’t miss anyone and did not miss anyone.
          Quote: prosto_rgb
          any other ...

          It seems like Russian is written in white. Although, perhaps it was worth these very others like that distinguish. HZ.
          1. Your friend
            Your friend 24 October 2015 11: 42 New
            0
            Quote: prosto_rgb
            Quote: Your friend
            You are on the list of nationalists - their, homegrown, Belarusian Natsik missed. Hope inattention?

            I didn’t miss anyone and did not miss anyone.
            Quote: prosto_rgb
            any other ...

            It seems like Russian is written in white. Although, perhaps it was worth these very others like that distinguish. HZ.

            It’s just strange, they didn’t let the Russian Natsiks pass, there were no Ukrainian Natsiks, but somehow they didn’t have any kind of their own ... Well, I forgot, you don’t have Belarusian Natsiks, as many comrades from Belarus say here.
  • AlexeyKakhanovich
    AlexeyKakhanovich 23 October 2015 15: 05 New
    +1
    Viking, you will now be christened a Bandera, or there will be an alarmist who will faint. And imagine how we, Belarusians, are scared: "Russians speak Russian, Russians are proud of Russia, they began to foster patriotism in Russian schools! Horror! That's the same in Ukraine!" You yourself are not funny?) But the author of the article on the barrel of gunpowder, let him fly. We are not Estonians to erect monuments to the Nazis, and not Bandera's to burn people, so calm down. Otherwise, there will soon be articles like "Slavianski Bazaar" (an organization banned on the territory of the Russian Federation)))
    1. lesnik1978
      lesnik1978 23 October 2015 16: 43 New
      +3
      I remember that on Victory Day in the city of Mogilev (this happened this year), four men were beaten. were beaten by three young men just because they sang the song "Victory Day smelled like gunpowder." at the karaoke bar. They were beaten not by the courtyard gopota, but by quite respectable young people. And young people scanning Bandera's greeting "glory to Ukraine, glory to heroes" at football matches. They do not know, to see that with these chants, Khatyn and other Belarusian villages were burned by the Banderlog. They robbed, raped and killed people. You are like the dill that believes that the people in Odessa burned themselves, that in the Donbass the intergalactic Buryat cavalry armored division is fighting with combat dill. Our government indulges the Belarusian fascists. Therefore, the symbolism of the Belarusian fascists is still not prohibited - the coat of arms "they will not catch up with us" and the flag "lard-meat-lard". There is no need to look at what is happening in our country through the prism of rose-colored glasses and see no further than your own nose. Only the lazy and (or) do not see the processes of quiet Belarusian-fascistization in our country. Power does everything for that. for the Russian Federation to turn its back on us.
  • Olezhek
    Olezhek 23 October 2015 15: 08 New
    +1
    Starik72 (4) BY Today, 13: 42 ↑

    Olezhka! Treat your head !!! My advice is now clear.
    belay

    Colleagues - in Belarus about 10 million people and many have higher education
    I would like to see a detailed, sensible (perhaps in the form of an article) presentation of a counter position.
    About the fact that But father - well done not need to write.
    That's the point.
    Try to describe a happy Russian-Belarusian future without falling into a fantasy style ..am
    1. bordos
      bordos 23 October 2015 16: 33 New
      0
      If possible, not in the form of an article (for this is the destiny of only the great epistolaries, and it is somehow not easy for us to be de-Russified)
      but point by point.
      1. Name the country / nation / nationality not belonging to the Russian Federation and related to it more positively than Belarus.
      2. Articles like this contribute to NATO's eastward expansion. For if you put pressure on the fact that Belarus is the North-Western Territory of Russia, you can reach the point where the national movement, which is now extremely insignificant and unpopular, will become massive and cause a rejection reaction to Russia's imperial behavior. Respect the fact that the Republic of Belarus is an independent state, undoubtedly friendly to Russia, but not so much as to tell us which of the state languages ​​to write street names.
      3. The author is definitely not a Belarusian, since he distorts the facts that are obvious for a person living in the country. and few people in our country use the name "Belarus", there are official documents in which the name "Republic of Belarus, Belarus" is fixed, and only some Russian media persistently continue to use the echo of the Soviet name.
      On the streets and on TV, the Belarusian language sounds much less than we would like. and by the way, there is plenty of commercial advertising in the Belarusian language, it reaches the listener quite well, many companies just emphasize their respect for the national issue. what I wish you
      1. Olezhek
        Olezhek 23 October 2015 18: 36 New
        +2
        1. Name the country / nation / nationality not belonging to the Russian Federation and related to it more positively than Belarus.

        Nicaragua - recognized and Yu Ossetia and Abkhazia !!!
        US near but ONET not scanty

        2 Yes, that Ukraine has already joined NATO and the EU ... Old Man on the line ...

        3 Belarus -will or so now write or already Similar Kresy, choose.
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 23 October 2015 20: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: Olezhek
          or already similar

          Do not wait.
          They have not answered for Bialystok.
          And for the division of Czechoslovakia in 1938. Together with Hitler they have not yet been asked.
          1. Olezhek
            Olezhek 23 October 2015 21: 02 New
            +1
            Do not wait.
            They have not answered for Bialystok.
            And for the section of Czechoslovakia 1938g.


            You personally ask?
            Or a couple with the Old Man?
            Yugoslavia tried to be independent from the USSR
            Where is that Yugoslavia?
            Like you want without Russia, but that all the power of Russia is behind you
            And it does not happen
            1. prosto_rgb
              prosto_rgb 24 October 2015 00: 18 New
              0
              Quote: Olezhek
              You personally ask?
              Or a couple with the Old Man?

              If polite Poles climb here, you will probably have to ask me as well.
              And if they don’t climb, then it is always possible to cooperate mutually beneficial without military conflicts.
        2. Rader
          Rader 23 October 2015 22: 34 New
          +1
          Olezhek !!! Yes, you have already lost ... oh ... fell in love with your "Nicaragua was recognized, but Belarus is not ..". Abkhazia and Ossetia did not recognize not the Belarusians, but the AHL. For some reason, you stubbornly believe that "father" expresses the interests of at least 99% of the population, and these 99% sleep and see: "Belarus CE Europe", "Death to the Damned ..." and the Kremlin is on fire in a thermonuclear flame .. ... wassat
        3. bordos
          bordos 24 October 2015 00: 44 New
          +1
          1. Russian and Nicaraguan - brothers forever))) common historical roots, similar mentality, long history of the joint construction of the state. are not going to unite, though far away? I am ready to listen to the continuation of the list of bosom friends.
          2. somehow it sounds joyful to you. It seemed to me that the loss of Ukraine as if not a friend, then an ally / neutral player is not the most pleasant event for the Russian Federation. and the loss of Belarus will be an even greater loss in my opinion. well, you know better on the spot, of course ...
          3. look do not get confused in historical eras and redistribution of the map of Europe, otherwise you will call the Motherland the Golden Horde someday request
          1. Your friend
            Your friend 24 October 2015 11: 40 New
            -1
            "3. Look, don't get confused in historical epochs and redistributions of the map of Europe, otherwise you will call your Motherland the Golden Horde someday" - oh, how cool that only you thought of mentioning Russia as the Golden Horde. What's in the head is on the tongue)
            1. bordos
              bordos 24 October 2015 14: 03 New
              +1
              Similar Kresy regarding Belarus
              and the Golden Horde in relation to Russia - a correct analogy
              watch your intonations, my dear
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  • Your friend
    Your friend 23 October 2015 15: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: Y_w_p
    Nothing. We are few but we are in vests !!!! And if the trunk is surely not one is buried !!! By the way, seriously, here is one m ..... above that he wrote that the type of Belgians of the French, unlike us, apparently did not betray a war of 1 or 2 world war. But I fundamentally disagree about this passage, let this type come to Belarus is even simpler, let it learn history. True, I’m completely unsure of what they are now learning in Russia. Even interestingly, it will be necessary to take a textbook and read, is there a Soviet people winner? Or only Russian. For such an insult to the people who gave each 3 or 4 inhabitants for victory, you can give in the face. For me, that the German fascist that the Romanian that the Ukrainian that the Russian, were and will be fascists and subject to destruction. Their traitors are also by the way, and moreover unconditionally.

    The peoples of the USSR are written, and what is written in the Belarusian textbooks? Even I'm not sure either.
  • AlexeyKakhanovich
    AlexeyKakhanovich 23 October 2015 15: 44 New
    +2
    It’s good that it’s written like that. We have the same way. Do not confuse Belarus and Ukraine, you will get the dead already. Someone wrote on the topic about valerian, take a sip, otherwise they were completely exhausted. Are you really stupid or gullible? Are you ready for any shit? I hope most Russians have the brains not to believe in nonsense like this article. My great-grandfather hid the Jews, another great-grandfather in the First World War became a Knight of the Cross of St. George, my wife's grandfather was partisan, and then another 4 years Bandera drove through the Carpathians. This is about EVERY Belarusian family, you have to be a complete idiot to assume the Ukrainian scenario in Belarus! You have hundreds of times more Nazis in Russia than we have, our "skins", by the way, I have never seen them, even a swastika correctly on the wall is not always able to draw)
    1. Your friend
      Your friend 23 October 2015 16: 05 New
      0
      Quote: AlexeyKakhanovich
      It’s good that it’s written like that. We have the same way. Do not confuse Belarus and Ukraine, you will get the dead already. Someone wrote on the topic about valerian, take a sip, otherwise they were completely exhausted. Are you really stupid or gullible? Are you ready for any shit? I hope most Russians have the brains not to believe in nonsense like this article. My great-grandfather hid the Jews, another great-grandfather in the First World War became a Knight of the Cross of St. George, my wife's grandfather was partisan, and then another 4 years Bandera drove through the Carpathians. This is about EVERY Belarusian family, you have to be a complete idiot to assume the Ukrainian scenario in Belarus! You have hundreds of times more Nazis in Russia than we have, our "skins", by the way, I have never seen them, even a swastika correctly on the wall is not always able to draw)


      "Well, where, well, where did you see the Benderites? Where, where are we fascists? Who, well, who calls to kill Russians? ... We are against corruption, and for democracy, for Europe," they shouted, jumping around and eating cookies.) ) http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/924/fpox783.jpg)

      Oh, the picture is not about these .... though ....
  • AlexeyKakhanovich
    AlexeyKakhanovich 23 October 2015 15: 56 New
    +6
    And about the fact that the old man is well done, almost no one will write, and I did not talk about this before. We just have no other choice but him, and he has no choice but to play the role of a political courtesan. Do not lie to us or to yourself, with all your loans from the deep, you won’t get us, and we are already doing it with two legs, offering to make a couple of beautiful political shows and dive headlong? We don’t rake, we don’t have any oars, like gas, etc. So politics is politics, and the Belarusian language, or rather the little that remains of it, should not concern you, much less bother you, especially since , so what are you afraid of?
    1. viking1703
      viking1703 23 October 2015 16: 03 New
      +4
      excellent said.
      yes .... Russia has more fun than ours))))
  • pts-m
    pts-m 23 October 2015 16: 10 New
    -1
    yes hi they even write in Swahili. for cardon in the geyrop they call them all Russian, although they try to gut on their own. the faces of the USSR sheep and pederast ropeeyts differ like macaque and gorilla.
  • AlexeyKakhanovich
    AlexeyKakhanovich 23 October 2015 16: 42 New
    +2
    In short, whoever realized that this article is essentially nonsense, in fact - a shitty provocation, he understood this, and the humpbacked grave will fix it. All the same, we will teach Pushkin, but you will hear "kaciu Yas kanyushynu" (there is no Belarusian layout in the phone, so with an error)!)