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Four questions about the mission in Syria

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In fact, the Syrian problem has long existed in Russian foreign policy and in the Russophobic propaganda of our opponents. The article “Oil and Russian arrogance” (Oil and Russian hubris, “The Boston Globe”, 2 in March 2005 of the year) is quite typical in this sense, although ten years ago there was neither Putin’s famous Munich speech, nor the war with Georgia, nor accession Crimea. Nevertheless, the article was written as if yesterday, and Syria is mentioned quite clearly in it. In a word, already in those years it was clear that only strong could dictate conditions, but they did not consider Russia strong.


Four questions about the mission in Syria


The visit of Bashar al-Assad to Moscow fueled the interest of Russian society in Syrian issues. It became clear that some crucial decisions were being prepared that should determine the fate of not only a single country, but also the entire region. The main question today is what goals Russia sets for itself and how well such goals are achievable. Any war has certain conditions, the achievement of which is usually considered a victory. The starting position of the Russian Federation at other negotiations, including the status of Crimea, depends on how convincing this victory will look.

But at the same time there are fewer questions, the answers to which the authorities should formulate at least for themselves, and better for the people. There are quite a few such questions, but they can be reduced to four main points if desired.

Objectives

Of course, we are talking about real goals, and not about declared ones. The collapse of Syria has actually happened and cannot be saved. Russia will be able to fight with the IG only with the creation of a large land group, for the maintenance of which the economy hardly has enough money. Moreover, for the time being, the IS does not directly threaten the Russian Federation, in contrast to the same Saudi Arabia, which not only collapsed oil prices, but also began to select European commodity markets.

Thus, the objectives of the Russian Federation can be formulated as follows: a) preventing the IG to the coast in the region of Latakia and Tartus, as well as maintaining the power of Assad, at least over part of the country; b) redirecting the expansion of the Wahhabis to the south towards ideologically close Saudi Arabia and other monarchies. The ideological justification of the campaign is already ready: the liberation of Mecca and Medina from the hands of the Saudis.

Naturally, it is impossible to voice such goals directly, but the leaders of the IG will quickly understand that Russia: a) has no intention to destroy them right now, but will not let them go to the sea; b) silently, but aggressively offers an alternative way to the south.

All of the above is obvious to the ruling elite of Saudi Arabia. The situation for her is not just bad - it can be a disaster at any time. Riyadh has already engaged in the Yemeni campaign of all allies, even such distant ones as Pakistan, Sudan and Egypt. Reflect the second threat to him banal nothing and nothing.

If the real goals of the Russian campaign are precisely this, then everything looks quite reasonable.

Supply

The Russian group in Syria found itself in unique conditions. Even the USSR and the Russian Empire rarely waged wars in territories so cut off from national borders. Of historical examples can be recalled except that the Soviet participation in the civil war in Angola, and even then the scale there was much more modest. At the same time, the USSR had not only a mighty military fleet, but also rich civil shipping companies. With supplies in Angola, for example, everything was so good that the South African government in 1986 decided on a desperate step - sent special forces with the order to blow up Soviet bulk carriers with mines.

Now with the supply bases in Syria, there are many difficulties. The solution could be the use of civilian courts, which temporarily go under the flag of the Navy. Under international agreements, Turkey can inspect only civilian vessels, but not military ones. By the way, a similar trick when passing through the Bosphorus was used earlier by other countries, so there is nothing new here. According to Lenta.ru, the Navy has already purchased from three to eight decommissioned dry-cargo ships in Turkey, which will soon raise the flag of auxiliary vessels. The first such vessel was the "Dvinitsa-50". But will there be enough of these capacities?

Deadlines

Another issue is related to the timing of the campaign. Chairman of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs Alexei Pushkov already called 3-4 of the month. It is clear that during this period ISIS cannot be defeated, even with two hundred thousandth contingent and hundreds of aircraft in Syria. October 19 Valentina Matvienko also said that the Syrian campaign will not be protracted. Apparently, a certain consensus has been reached on this issue in the Russian establishment.

So, Moscow is betting on a time-bound war. Why? There can only be two explanations.

The first assumption is that Moscow needs not complete victory, but some limited military success. The most vivid example of such tactics is the 08.08.08 war, at the final stage of which the advancing Russian columns were stopped one step away from the capture of Tbilisi.

The second assumption is much more alarming: the country's leadership received information about the forthcoming aggression against the Russian Federation itself or one of its most important allies. Assad and the current government of Syria, with all due respect to them, are not as important ally as, say, Belarus. Naturally, any citizen will have a natural question: what kind of military threat are we talking about.

Counter-propaganda

The law on classifying losses in peacetime opens up wide scope for Western, Ukrainian and other Russian-speaking media to influence our public opinion, frankly overestimating Russian losses in Syria. Since there will be no official data in the Russian Federation, the Russians will have to rely on rumors, conjectures and outright disinformation, which will flow in a wide stream from abroad. How dangerous this information sabotage is can be seen in the example of Imperial Russia in the First World War, which lost not on the battlefield, but on the domestic front.

The rush around Syria is quickly eroding, while Ukraine is here, very close. And in this infinitely important area, Russian diplomacy can only be presented by the Minsk agreements, which are more like the Khasavyurt agreements.

In fact, there are more questions than four. For example, how does Moscow see the completion of the Syrian campaign, not only in terms, but in essence? Is there a consensus in the Russian leadership on this issue? Or what if the “moderate opposition” fails to sit down at the negotiating table? Or if the same opposition almost immediately abandons the just-signed agreements?

I don’t want to repeat common truths, but the authorities should present the society with convincing answers to all the questions indicated earlier than Voice of America does.
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  1. Aleks28
    Aleks28 23 October 2015 06: 31 New
    12
    Of course, we are talking about real goals, and not about declared ones. The collapse of Syria has actually happened and cannot be saved. Russia will be able to fight with the IG only with the creation of a large land group, for the maintenance of which the economy hardly has enough money. Moreover, for the time being, the IS does not directly threaten the Russian Federation, in contrast to the same Saudi Arabia, which not only collapsed oil prices, but also began to select European commodity markets.
    Well, the expert ...
    Moreover, so far the IG does not directly threaten the Russian Federation, unlike the same Saudi Arabia,
    And it will be too late when it will threaten directly.
    The collapse of Syria has actually already occurred and it cannot be saved.
    What are the conclusions on what grounds? So far, no one has snooped on the ground, Syria’s integrity is not in danger.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 23 October 2015 07: 03 New
      +8
      Quote: Alex28
      So far, no one has sunk down on the ground, the integrity of Syria is not in danger.

      I very often disagree with Igor, but I agree almost completely on this issue, I myself constantly talk about it. Let me explain: Kurds are one of the key players in Syria and Iraq. In fact, they control vast territories, by the standards of these countries, and bear a heavy burden in the fight against IS / ISIS. At the end (God forbid) of hostilities they will have to pay, and they require, as always, one thing - statehood or, at least, broad autonomy. If we do not want to get another civil war on that territory, we will have to make concessions. The Turks will be opposed, but it is unlikely that someone will ask them, there is a way to agree.
      In addition, there is a high probability of the collapse of Syria, and on a confessional basis, into the Alafi-Shiite part and the Sunni part. In short, that's all. Smirnov does not allow a wide turn, the publication of articles is blocked for me.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 23 October 2015 08: 15 New
        +4
        Quote: inkass_98
        the likelihood of the collapse of Syria is also confessional,

        I don’t agree here: Syria is a fairly secular state by eastern standards and has extensive experience in a joint ethno-confessional world.
        In addition, the sharp activation in the last days of the Kurdish militia against ISIS is not otherwise than the M-va agreed with the Kurds on the basis of the Assad visit. Turkey’s tank raid on Kurdish-Syrian territory speaks in favor of the same version - the incident has not yet been completed ...
        The Kurdish diplomatic mission in the M-ve is practically a settled issue, the matter is only the pacification of the PKK and their Iraqi rivals.
        All this can significantly accelerate the liberation of Syrian territory from ISIS militants (and along the way from the "moderate opposition")
      2. blizart
        blizart 23 October 2015 10: 06 New
        +1
        Smirnov does not allow a wide turn, the publication of articles is blocked for me.
        And why not?
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 23 October 2015 11: 52 New
      -2
      , the integrity of Syria is not in danger.
      Do not say nonsense, but look at the map. From Syria there is only a name.
      1. Aleks28
        Aleks28 23 October 2015 14: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: Gardamir
        Do not say nonsense, but look at the map. From Syria there is only a name.

        Why take it out of context?
        So far, no one has sunk down on the ground, the integrity of Syria is not in danger.
        Quote: Gardamir
        Gardamir (4) SU Today, 11:52 ↑ New

        , the integrity of Syria is not in danger.

        Clever speaking .... negative
      2. Aleks28
        Aleks28 23 October 2015 15: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: Gardamir
        Do not say nonsense, but look at the map. From Syria there is only a name.

        And now, seriously: If ours holds politics, then they will win, and they will defeat crushingly, but there is still a need to endure it. Without knowing all the interweaving, I think they will get together!
      3. APASUS
        APASUS 23 October 2015 23: 24 New
        0
        Quote: Gardamir
        , the integrity of Syria is not in danger.
        Do not say nonsense, but look at the map. From Syria there is only a name.

        Did you yourself see the climate map of Syria with its features and how much does the desert occupy there?
  2. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 23 October 2015 06: 31 New
    +1
    I do not share the author’s point of view on almost all issues. Crimea is an example of victory: indivisible, independent, with little blood, under the protection of green men, with the support of the people, government and government army.
  3. Aleks28
    Aleks28 23 October 2015 06: 35 New
    +5
    I don’t want to repeat the commonplace truths, but the authorities must present convincing answers to all the questions outlined to the public before the Voice of America does it.
    “Or maybe you have the key to the apartment where the money is?” You will only know what is supposed to and no more (well, we are the same). In short, a complete minus, moreover, it smells like some kind of provocation .. no
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 23 October 2015 08: 17 New
      +3
      Quote: Alex28
      moreover, it smells like a provocation ..

      Not a provocation, but a liberal view of things - a common episode of information war, we will meet with this more than once.
      1. Niki
        Niki 23 October 2015 09: 09 New
        +3
        Nevertheless, ostentatious liberalism does not guarantee that the article turned out to be provocative.
        And only questions that seemed profitable to pose were posed in it for trolling.
        For example, there is not a word in it about Putin’s repeated meetings with Saudi princes (or he meets the same thing there - he did not check this version)
        There is not a word about the negotiations with Assad. There is not a word about the Turkish position.

        In general, there is nothing but the usual liberalistic cries from the Putin Putin trend.
  4. Riv
    Riv 23 October 2015 07: 00 New
    +9
    I do not quite understand what the author is dissatisfied with. On the one hand, he refers to statements that determine the duration of the operation in 3-4 months. On the other hand, bulk carriers for supply seem to have already been purchased. Why buy them if the operation is short-term? In general: "I know something, but I don’t know what and how I know it."
    1. avt
      avt 23 October 2015 09: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: Riv
      I do not quite understand what the author is dissatisfied with.

      It’s impossible to understand, a typical intellectual nonsense on the principle of “come here, stand still.” All this has already taken place in Novorossia - ,, We’ll get to Portugal in a day, Putin leaked Novorossia “What is there to discuss? Well, the specifics in the article are neither a gram nor a liter, in general it is impossible to measure it with any unit, the author’s glitches alone are classical manilism on the topic - well, it would be nice to build a bridge ... "from here to the Bosphorus, but the author doesn’t build it - in thoughts But will the peasants pull such a construction site, and will the master / intellectual pay the rent? He cares about them like that - he doesn’t sleep at night, thinks about it and writes articles about it.
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 23 October 2015 07: 05 New
    -5
    In fact, there are more than four questions.


    The war will devour the state’s resources at a frantic speed .... this is the question: will we drag out a long-term military campaign in Syria ?.
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 23 October 2015 07: 28 New
      +3
      And what will be the loss of the state if this cancerous tumor grows?
      Quote: The same Lech
      In fact, there are more than four questions.


      The war will devour the state’s resources at a frantic speed .... this is the question: will we drag out a long-term military campaign in Syria ?.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 23 October 2015 08: 27 New
      12
      Quote: The same Lech
      The war will devour the resources of the state at a frantic speed ..


      Wow affirmative!
      Firstly, the resources are not big news (not much more than the conduct of exercises (which the Russian Army conducted over 3 over 3 years)), and secondly, exercises do not bring much benefit than training in combat operations.
      Thirdly, in this war, we have no right to NOT win, because TOO is at stake too much.
      And in the fourth: maybe Putin will finally realize that the turn to a mobilization economy has matured and that liberals from the Pr-v need to be driven with a hot broom.
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 23 October 2015 09: 40 New
        +1
        A good war in the BV will be normal for both Iran and Iraq to participate, the Hussites in Yemen, to bomb more wells, terminals and infrastructure in the SA and Qatar, so that oil can be sold for 20 years.
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 23 October 2015 07: 28 New
    +5
    IS is not directly threatening the Russian Federation,... Yeah ... and the events in Dagestan .. when the terrorists staged another massacre ... There are no bases and camps for training terrorists in Russia .. Everything from there ..
  7. nemec55
    nemec55 23 October 2015 07: 29 New
    -3
    The Minsk agreements, which are more like the Khasavyurt agreements.

    The idea is interesting and, in general, the article is essentially specific questions to which there is essentially no answer, and if there is, they are not entirely good.
    The author is definitely a plus for the article.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 23 October 2015 08: 31 New
      +1
      Here you are right: within the framework of the existing socio-economic liberal market model of the Russian economy, there are no answers at all.
      It's time to switch to new social and economic models with the elimination of usurious interest from the life of the state.
      1. Xergey
        Xergey 23 October 2015 09: 06 New
        +3
        Maybe our participation in helping Syria will lead to the fact that, at some point, the issue of transition will come up on edge and GDP will mark this direction for the liberal part of the government, because it was not for nothing that Dimon received a medal, maybe this is a sign for him to think about until the next election.
        We don’t know much, therefore, it’s too early to draw conclusions, because it’s not in vain that Ivanov is constantly with GDP now.
        1. Alexey-74
          Alexey-74 23 October 2015 12: 53 New
          +1
          I do not agree with the author - this is his private opinion. Russia will support Assad until the Syrian army alone can cope with the Ishilovites, when there is a wave of liberation of the occupied territories and ISIS will slowly roll to its end.
          1. Kuzhugetovich
            Kuzhugetovich 23 October 2015 14: 04 New
            +1
            A much more logical scenario than the one presented in the article. Let's hope that it will be so.
  8. Leonid1976
    Leonid1976 23 October 2015 07: 41 New
    0
    The findings are not undeniable. But the first normal article on Syria, where the author does not stupidly repeat the templates of official propaganda. And what plans do the Pope have except Patrushev and Ivanov, no one knows. Especially if he changes them depending on the reaction of the other players.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 23 October 2015 08: 33 New
      +2
      This is his strong place, in confirmation of this - the latest rating on a VTsIOM poll.
      But it is also weak, because the people did not find a place in power ...
      1. Niki
        Niki 23 October 2015 09: 13 New
        0
        Democracy is an illusion or utopia :) It is necessary to consider such terminology realistically. And a high rating of this realism is only a plus.
  9. SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss 23 October 2015 07: 42 New
    0
    There was a double impression, I understood something, but did not understand what I understood.
    In any case, the war will be analyzed and conclusions drawn, based on the conclusions, a victory or a loss is determined. I think the time "Wan, throw boots on the remote, and then we'll figure out what we’ve done" - it's over! There is money, resources, specialists, and there is a determination to bring things to a logical conclusion. But the timing of the war, who will tell you so simply, this is a military secret.
  10. hrapon
    hrapon 23 October 2015 08: 05 New
    +2
    The starting positions of the Russian Federation at other negotiations, including on the status of the Crimea, depend on how convincing this victory will look.


    What negotiations on the status of Crimea? With whom? You need to peek out of your “bathroom” more often and not use toilet paper for geostrategic analysis
    1. Kibalchish
      23 October 2015 08: 19 New
      -5
      Quote: hrapon
      What negotiations on the status of Crimea? With whom? You need to peek out of your “bathroom” more often and not use toilet paper for geostrategic analysis


      Someone recognized the Crimea? Sanctions lifted?
      1. Niki
        Niki 23 October 2015 09: 19 New
        +1
        First, sanctions are not sanctions for us, but global financial financiers restrictions on the application of certain levers of influence on the Russian economy. There are no real supporting statistics on the absolutely negative effect of sanctions on the Russian economy.

        And what business did we “admit” to the fact? The Kuril Japs for decades can not afford to admit. These are just different conditions for different regions.
      2. sanyavolhv
        sanyavolhv 24 October 2015 00: 38 New
        +1
        health
        Do you need my recognition of you as an intelligent person? I think no. so why does the Crimea recognize his (Crimea) God knows by whom? Why does Russia need someone’s recognition? RUSSIA WAS, IS AND WILL BE. you probably won’t understand this.
  11. sevtrash
    sevtrash 23 October 2015 08: 15 New
    +1
    Yes, it seems that there are more questions than answers. In fact, there will be no answer, since it is unknown - there are many factors affecting the outcome of the war in Syria, their strength and number are changing. With its latest actions, Russia has revived an almost decommissioned player, again including him in the participants, if not in a power struggle in virtually non-existent Syria, then in the division of territory.
    But now the main effect of Russia's actions in Syria seems different, the policy of the USA and Europe has led to the collapse of the next state and the tsunami of refugees in prosperous Europe. Now the West is hoping that the new / old player will somehow stabilize the situation, for which sanctions may weaken this player. Or you can blame your mistakes on this player.
  12. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 23 October 2015 08: 26 New
    +1
    Thus, the goals of the Russian Federation can be formulated as follows: a) preventing IS from accessing the coast in the region of Latakia and Tartus, as well as maintaining Assad’s authority over at least part of the country; b) redirection of the expansion of the Wahhabis to the south towards the ideologically close Saudi Arabia and other monarchies. The ideological rationale for the campaign is ready: the liberation of Mecca and Medina from the hands of the Saudis.

    Somewhat surprised by this statement. I think, Igor Kabardin, is aware that Wahhabism is practically state policy in Saudi Arabia. In an interesting way, according to the author of the article, Wahhabis from the north will free Muslim shrines in Mecca from Wahhabis from the south. belay
    1. Kibalchish
      23 October 2015 08: 32 New
      +1
      It is a question of the inner-Habit struggle. KSA and IS leaders declared each other unfaithful dogs to be destroyed. Among radicals, it is always like that.

      http://cont.ws/post/91334

      Recall that before the attack on the Eastern province, the “Caliph” Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi called the ruling Saudi family “watch dogs of the West and Israel.”
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 23 October 2015 14: 06 New
        +1
        Rather, I agree with Vladimir 1964. You never know who al-Baghdadi called dogs and still call. This is all to attract supporters and recruits - "we are the only force that can unite under the banner of Islam." Pure promotion of the "Candidate Program". There is only one Islam, there are many faiths, and there are hundreds, if not thousands, of sects who want to grab valasti and money on an Islamic skate. IG will not go to KSA. They have one owner. Maximum, the owner needs the IS to keep the KSA in check, but not in order to finish off. But to leave the IG in Turkey, quite in the spirit of the owners of the United States. Erdogan will play out, and may not escape, as Yanukovych managed. I think the States have long believed that Turkey has become too independent - it’s time to trim it. If not according to the Libyan scenario, then according to the Egyptian one.
    2. Xergey
      Xergey 23 October 2015 09: 10 New
      0
      By the way, I also drew attention to this and did not understand that the author had in mind the liberation of the shrines by the Wahhabis and the redirection to Saudi Arabia.
  13. regdan
    regdan 23 October 2015 08: 26 New
    0
    Just 3 months ago, all sorts of analysts and experts did not even hear about Syria. And now everyone almost considers himself a guru on the Syrian issue ...
  14. Wise Kaa
    Wise Kaa 23 October 2015 08: 36 New
    +3
    not the topic, but nevertheless break off the dodges about Soviet technology =)))
  15. metropolity
    metropolity 23 October 2015 08: 55 New
    +3
    The collapse of Syria has actually already occurred and it cannot be saved.


    Sorry, but besides, how can you not call this nonsense. Did the author read anything about the titles of articles about Syria?
  16. magdama
    magdama 23 October 2015 11: 36 New
    -1
    It seems to me that the position of the Russian Federation is the same as that of Napoleon: the main thing is to get involved in a battle, and then we'll see ...
  17. Petrik66
    Petrik66 23 October 2015 12: 50 New
    +4
    Pick up the articles of this "analytics". It's like in a joke with a doctor: "Doctor, will I live?" “What's the point?” Everything is hopeless ...... The operation in Syria will be included in military planning textbooks as well as the operation in Crimea. Again played a lead. Late? And when was it necessary? In 2011, 12,13 or not at all? The army slowly, like the whole country creeps out of the pit of the 80s - 00x two years ago - with which we would go into Syria7 Then we would get the full out of the entire world community. Here the EU, China and the Arabs would not have any discrepancies. We would be rolled out both economically and politically, and possibly militarily. ISIS did not yet cut its head at the camera, moreover to the Americans, the British and other civilized citizens, and they all do not care about the Syrian heads. the sultans and kings were just beginning to give money and believed that they had everything under control.
    The author claims to be severely analytic, although, like all of us, he gives out his speculation for some kind of information. When you fear everyone, sooner or later you start to get scared by yourself.
  18. mpzss
    mpzss 23 October 2015 13: 11 New
    +3
    read an article ... it seemed to me that the General Staff of Russia was reporting to me! all on the shelves, everything is beautiful! But I understand that the author is NOT AN ANALYTIC, NOT AN EXPERT! accordingly, this is a "kitchen" conversation, when you think for three and pulled on politics! MINUS!
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 23 October 2015 13: 43 New
      0
      It is necessary to save Syria and its people, and in no case should it be possible to allow the creation of a terrorist state on its territory that will definitely be extremely aggressive, unpredictable, cruel and allied with the United States, Israel and their other satellites in the BV.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 23 October 2015 15: 23 New
        +1
        By the way, we must remember that it’s not only us who save the people of Syria, but for example the fearless fighters with terror, the valiant Hezbollah fighters (by the way, Iran’s Safir jeeps with a 107 mm BO again “shine”):
  19. pistons
    pistons 23 October 2015 13: 51 New
    +2
    "The Russian group in Syria was in unique conditions. Even the USSR and the Russian Empire rarely waged wars in territories so divorced from national borders. From historical examples, one can recall perhaps the Soviet participation in the civil war in Angola "

    laughing Why did you smoke the author?
    Arab-Israeli wars, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba ...
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 23 October 2015 20: 05 New
      0
      Quote: pistons
      Why did you smoke the author?
      Arab-Israeli wars, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba ...

      Well, where in your USSR he fought openly?
      Quote: pistons
      "The Russian group in Syria was in unique conditions. Even the USSR and the Russian Empire rarely fought wars in territories so divorced from national borders.
      Here you have it: laughing
      1. pistons
        pistons 24 October 2015 15: 18 New
        0
        Sorry .. but how does this affect the supply and the general course of operations?
        The fact that it is not open on the contrary creates additional difficulties.
  20. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 23 October 2015 14: 49 New
    +1
    The idea of ​​“sending” terrorists to Saudi Arabia looms in the news here and there. But in my opinion this is completely absurd.
    1. The militants must crawl out of their warm holes along with weapons and vehicles and march about 300 km through the dead desert to meet the SA army and possibly the U.S. aircraft, which miraculously cease to miss the mark as soon as the terrorists cross the border. Lose shield from civilians and pocket oil refineries?
    2. And how many total militants? In addition to dubious sources such as Wikipedia, no one voices these figures. Remember how Putin spoke about the number of immigrants from the USSR or the State Department about the trained. Is it not the first task in the war - to fully study the forces and capabilities of the enemy, and here is silent. The same picture with losses, figures in various sources (acting on one side) diverge by an order of magnitude.
    3. The combat map is spaghetti glued with tape. I can’t move, not to mention the marches.

    It seems to me that Iraq is the key to solving the Syrian problem.
  21. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 23 October 2015 15: 06 New
    -6
    The problem of arrogance in the leadership of Russia really has a place to be. Spit on everyone, explain nothing, lie to everyone. If you can’t lie, you must secret, prohibit and prosecute. Under the USSR, all this was offset by at least an acceptable social policy. Now, against the background of robbery, curtailment of social programs and inequality in society - why should we tolerate all this, there are no pluses, some minuses?
    1. sanyavolhv
      sanyavolhv 24 October 2015 00: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: chunga-changa
      If you can’t lie - to secret, prohibit and prosecute



      health
      Sir give your account number. pins, well, in general, everything that is written on your card !!! DO NOT GIVE? Yes, you sir, secret everything that every person on earth has the right to know.
      1. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 24 October 2015 10: 50 New
        0
        Health. Sir, immediately after you, as soon as you publish, I will immediately.
        Confused cold with soft is a famous style. There is something that is kept secret from scammers, and that citizens have the right to know are two different things.
  22. xin-l
    xin-l 23 October 2015 20: 30 New
    +1
    Just yesterday, GDP said Syria’s integrity is needed. In Assad-controlled territory, 80% of the population lives. If it is cleared of all, for the most part, the newcomer militants Yig An Nusra and others, then why not restore the borders in their old form. Another point is that the Syrian Kurds want autonomy in the BORDERS of the state because only in the state can they live safely not as pariahs without fear of Turkish raids. And this is a fact. Then, Russia decides on a strategy to enter the Mediterranean Sea with the help of its Navy base in Tartus and the military base in Latakia, as opposed to the US 6th fleet. This is an important and key issue. We cannot lose the United States in this. This is unequivocal. I think the goals in Syria, our government understands more than many states of this and not only this region, this is for the future. I don’t think that our VKS created a base only for the period of the war. Sorry, but it will be there as there are bases in Tajikistan and Armenia. And I will not be surprised that Syria will become a member of the CSTO. Then we do not need Qatar or the Saudis to launch their gas pipeline through Syria. Then where does this information come from that the Saudis suddenly seized the European market? On the contrary, another comes in that the Saudis are experiencing serious problems with money and are withdrawing their capital from other countries. By the way with Qatar the same option. After all, these countries are 40-50% dependent on the oil and gas sector. I’ll also say in Asia that Russia is already ahead of Saudi Arabia in supply. I really believe in our competition in the European market with Iran than in competition with the Saudis. By the way, the level of oil production is already falling in Norway, so there will be a need for Russian gas and oil products. And the article is slurred and it’s not clear what is based apparently on some rumors that are not supported by anything.
  23. vovashturman
    vovashturman 23 October 2015 21: 14 New
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    The photograph of the ship against the background of Istanbul, recalls the visit of the ship "Fortress" of Peter's times.
  24. them
    them 23 October 2015 22: 00 New
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    Quote: chunga-changa
    The problem of arrogance in the leadership of Russia really has a place to be. Spit on everyone, explain nothing, lie to everyone. If you can’t lie, you must secret, prohibit and prosecute. Under the USSR, all this was offset by at least an acceptable social policy. Now, against the background of robbery, curtailment of social programs and inequality in society - why should we tolerate all this, there are no pluses, some minuses?

    Well, judging by how you all howled, you can only make one conclusion, the aviation of the Russian Federation is very successful.
  25. sanyavolhv
    sanyavolhv 24 October 2015 00: 07 New
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    health.
    put the article plus. BUT the questions are raised in the article is still not quite true. present to the people the answers to these questions is the same as telling the Americans about their secret plans.
    Wedb questions posed SPECIFICALLY from the Pentagon. right questions. answers are needed ... but answers are NOT needed.
    Yes, even Syria is divided? NO ! it is clear that there Kurds and other "allies" will require a piece of land. but Syria can remain a single country. although America will divide to rule.
  26. The
    The point 24 October 2015 14: 50 New
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    Comrades. In the article, the author wrote something about the losses of the military contingent of the Russian Federation in Syria. Maybe someone will enlighten me, dense, how can this be, because our army does not conduct ground operations, and there are no planes like any aircraft. hi