Egypt can order in the Russian Federation to 80 "Alligators" and "Katranov"

Russia will supply the Ka-50 “Alligator” 52 helicopters to Egypt and, possibly, about the Ka-30K “Qatran” Ka-52K helicopters, the correspondent reported TASS source in the defense complex.

According to the interlocutor, at present, Egypt estimates the number of helicopters it can purchase for the recently acquired Mistrals in France.

“In addition to X-NUMX reconnaissance and attack helicopters Ka-50 Alligator, for which the contract has already been signed, the Egyptian side intends to purchase Ka-52K Katran helicopters to equip Mistral,” the source said .

He noted that the Navy of the Russian Federation at one time hoped to place Ka-16K helicopters on each of the Mistrals.

"It is possible that the Egyptian side will also decide on placing Ka-16K helicopters on their 52 ships, then the volume of the planned order will increase to 32 units, and the total number of Ka-52 helicopters for Egypt will reach 82 units," said the source.

“In any case, the Ka-52K Katran ship-based helicopters will be ordered by Egypt in addition to the Ka-52 Alligator vehicles,” he added.

According to the source, the contract for the supply of ship-borne helicopters may be concluded in the 1 quarter of next year. ”

Comments

[Hikar]

As a result, the alligators in the Egyptian army will be more than in the Russian army

[Penetrator]

Quote: Hnikar

As a result, the alligators in the Egyptian army will be more than in the Russian army

So Egypt is the birthplace of Nile alligators.

[Now we are free]

Hmmm, Egyptians and one small request, can the Mistral Alligators be immediately delivered to the Syrian port of Tartus and raised over them the St. Andrew's flag?

Thanks in advance! Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

[ARES623]

Quote: Now we are free

Hmmm, Egyptians and one small request, can the Mistral Alligators be immediately delivered to the Syrian port of Tartus and raised over them the St. Andrew's flag?

Thanks in advance! Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

I'm embarrassed to ask, why the hell are they needed there? Strangers. You can, after all, put the same thing on land, and for one thing we will evade the counter "cunning Arab" request.

[crazyrom]

Quote: Hnikar

As a result, the alligators in the Egyptian army will be more than in the Russian army

But then with this money we will build 200 pieces of the same Alligators, without consuming reserves and pension funds :)

[hydrox]

Quote: Penetrator

So Egypt is the birthplace of Nile alligators.

And where will he go if the Mistrals are ours?
So it was conceived: the whole question is only who will push back the entire Russian avionics into them.

[kil 31]

Quote: hydrox

Quote: Penetrator

So Egypt is the birthplace of Nile alligators.

And where will he go if the Mistrals are ours?
So it was conceived: the whole question is only who will push back the entire Russian avionics into them.

Where did you get that shot. Perhaps as it stood, it is worth it. We received the money for the withdrawal, but we did not carry out the withdrawal.

[Tra-ta-ta]

So Egypt is the birthplace of Nile alligators.
Just about ... when the Nile soon dries up in the lower reaches ... such "Alligators" will be needed.

[Drmadfisher]

crocodiles live in the Nile, and alligators in the USA and China

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Penetrator

So Egypt is the birthplace of Nile alligators.

Yes, dear, today you have a better mood. He laughed about alligators. The analogy is cool.

[vovanpain]

But this contract was obvious, Russia and the French and Mistral raped and Egypt threw a lard, plus spare parts and more ..

[Seaman77]

So Egypt is the birthplace of Nile alligators.

Nile crocodiles. Alligators in the Mississippi.

C'mon, news too. As if Egypt has a choice of what to buy on the Mistral.

Any other helicopter that is smaller than the KA-52. This has already been discussed more than once.

Who pays? Saudis?

That's it. This contract will take place if the Saudis ALLOW Egypt to buy helicopters from Russia. So it's too early to scream:

Russia is here and the French and Mistral raped and Egypt will throw a lard

[Black Colonel]

Russia is here and the French and Mistral raped
The French, first of all, themselves raped with the Mistral

[Evgeniy667b]

But in the Russian army these helicopters will not increase for a long time. You are probably happy. And money, they are like a fig leaf.

[Pimply]

Quote: Evgeniy667b

But in the Russian army these helicopters will not increase for a long time. You are probably happy. And money, they are like a fig leaf.

Only without this fig leaf have not yet figured out how to get along. People actually want to eat. And then, based on your theory, my friend, you can rivet helicopters for free and in thousands.

[kodxnumx]

Well, that’s nice! Egypt will not buy them anywhere, and the grandmothers for the Mistral got back and a penalty in the amount of a yard and we’ll sell K-52k plus, we would always have to conduct transactions like this

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: kod3001

Well, that's nice!

Even excellent, just google how much a maximum of a pinwheel plant can produce a year. Then raise your hands to heaven and rejoice again in your joys. Since the next 3 years, the plant will work, only for export
You probably ask a question.
And they will answer you

Quote: kod3001

, it would always be for us to conduct transactions

[kodxnumx]

My dear, I’m sure that the Russian Aerospace Forces are in the leadership’s priority, so this time I’m sure the shoemaker will not be left without boots, the time is like you understand!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: kod3001

! So I'm sure this time the shoemaker will not remain without boots, time is such as you understand!

And I actually accept the info

[Evgeniy667b]

Holy naivete from you and rushing, kod3001!

[Archon]

in Russia there are 72

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Archon

in Russia there are 72

Is that a lot?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Benjamin Smekhov answered:

[Archon]

but looking for what and with what to compare. More Mi helicopters mean few Ka. The territory of Russia is huge, so little Ka. If you send all the alligators to Syria, for example, then this is very much, even if compared with foreign "coalitions". But if we compare helicopters for Egypt 82 and Russia 72, it turns out that we have little. But at the same time, we have enough helicopters in total.
By the way, on October 23, near the almost unfinished laboratory building of the FEFU, they planted one such alligator for window dressing, because the Ministry of Education and some other important bumps came to us, such as our university cooperates and helps to build these helicopters.
http://primamedia.ru/news/society/23.10.2015/468883/vnezapno-poyavivshiysya-u-me
dtsentra-dvfu-alligator-okazalsya-naglyadnim-p.html

[Archon]

By the way, he took a picture of him. There is a photo in ARW format resolution 4912x2760

[gjv]

Quote: Hnikar

As a result, the alligators in the Egyptian army will be more than in the Russian army

Quote: Alexey-74

It’s nice to make money, of course, but what about our army? When we have a large number of new equipment ...

According to various sources, the Russian army 72-75-77 Ka-52. The state defense order provides for the delivery of another 130 until 2020. But what is the priority? Will the plant cope with both the state defense order and the Egyptian order? Algerians are also interested in the possibility of buying, also for a helicopter carrier.

[redeemer]

and if you understand that Egypt got rich through the supply of stolen hydrocarbons to Europe through a chain of legalizing scams. then everything becomes very interesting. because we supply arms to a country that promotes and even takes an active part in ruining our economy. on the one hand, we kind of try to block one traffic through Syria. on the other, we strengthen the provision of the other, through Egypt. interesting chess ....

[Dmitry Toderes]

Quote: Hnikar

As a result, the alligators in the Egyptian army will be more than in the Russian army

The main thing is that there are orders. The economy is working, the plants are loaded. But the Egyptians will never go to war with us. So the fears are in vain.

[esso]

Foolish, sell such a car where there’s a complete mess. Russian intelligence impose a ban! Sell the Ka-52 K maximum and then in a weak configuration. And not on credit, but for cash!

[marlin1203]

When the contract is signed, then we will talk. And then "they can order" .... or they may not order. The money is still Saudi, and they themselves will soon be "sucked".

[Barboskin]

C'mon, news too. As if Egypt has a choice of what to buy on the Mistral.

[Penetrator]

There is always a choice. Resell Mistrals to whoever needs them, for example.

[Hon]

Quote: Penetrator

There is always a choice. Resell Mistrals to whoever needs them, for example.

is this for example? and why buy through Egypt and not negotiate directly?

[Armax]

Quote: Hon

Why buy through Egypt and not negotiate directly?

Probably you cannot agree because France in this case is not capable of making decisions on its own.

In principle, purely theoretically, Russia can equip and equip the Egyptian Mistrals to redeem then?

[red_october]

Why do they need us?
I'm not even talking about combat effectiveness, but about service. Can you imagine what kind of hemorrhoids the maintenance of gas turbines (and ship mechanisms in general) of European production will become? Okay, we can use NPO Satrun to serve Ukrainian gas turbines, which Mashzavod Zorya refused, since all the production facilities of the CIS countries are the legacy of the USSR military-industrial complex.
And what, for example, to do with GTU "Vyartsilya"? There is also a whole constellation of European manufacturers ("Altstom", etc.), which in peacetime need to be serviced and which we will pump up with money (currency, by the way), and if something happens, they will immediately refuse.
As we all understand, in their eyes, Russia with the Crimea and Syria has gone so far.
And here we have successfully earned and will still earn money on the Mistrals (helicopters and equipment for Egypt, and returned to us under the yard of the eureka in conditions where each euro costs 2 times more rubles) without the need to spend in the future on their maintenance, forming a grouping of ships for their protection (which, in conditions of a general deficit of naval units, must be removed from other missions under them, etc.)

[Seaman77]

Quote: red_october

Can you imagine what kind of hemorrhoids will become the maintenance of gas turbines (and ship mechanisms in general) of European production?

Gas turbine in the Mistrals ???????????????????

This is something new.

There are conventional diesel generators that produce the usual "lyaktricity" for conventional electric motors, which are in conventional azipods. ;))))))))

[Hon]

Quote: red_october

Can you imagine what kind of hemorrhoids will become the maintenance of gas turbines (and ship mechanisms in general) of European production?

But for this purpose, part of the technology was supposed to be transferred.

Quote: red_october

And here we have successfully earned and still earn on the Mistral

Is that what we earned? Well, with the sale of helicopters and equipment to Egypt, it’s clear a good deal. and from the Mistral? they returned to us what we spent plus a small penalty. with the same success it was possible to put money at interest.

Quote: red_october

Yes, and returned to us under the yard of the eureka in conditions where each euro costs 2 times more rubles

so it would be beneficial if the euro had risen in price and not the ruble cheaper, well, domestic costs are easier to cover, although prices are rising anyway, and foreign trade is still in dollars, and even dipped against the dollar. so the benefits are like magician magic, it just seems to be there.

[PSih2097]

Quote: red_october

Why do they need us?

How long is Gren being built? What is the residual life of the BDK in connection with the Syrian Express? How long will a rank XNUMX ship be built at our shipyards, and will there be at all (here the legacy of the USSR would be repaired and modernized)? continue to continue?
PySY a fairy tale about imported fuels and lubricants, which supposedly we cannot reproduce, is not necessary to write.

[Evgeniy667b]

About how are we, and what kind of gain can we talk ??? Although perhaps Mr. Serdyukov is in the black ...

[Hon]

Quote: ArMax

In principle, purely theoretically, Russia can equip and equip the Egyptian Mistrals to redeem then?

given that the Saudis pay for the banquet, this is even theoretically impossible

[hydrox]

Quote: Hon

is this for example?

And this is Big Politics, which we do not quite understand ...
Do you even know that Saudi Arabia loaned money to a poor Egypt to buy Mistral?
So a penny price for Russia is not a fact ...

[red_october]

I agree, in this Middle Eastern terrarium to understand and understand ...
On the one hand, the Saudis, together with the Turks and Qatar, want to bring their elites to all the Middle Eastern countries ("the Muslim brothers", for example), which the elder brother from Washington approves of.
On the other hand, the Saudis, apparently observing the obvious strengthening of the role of Russia in their region, wanted to build their own regional island of independence (from the United States), as evidenced by the Saudi princes who became frequent with Putin. Apparently, they remember what Hussein and Gaddafi finished. Apparently in the same vein, one can interpret the support of Saudi Arabia Al Sissi, who, in turn, unambiguously supports Assad with his idea of ​​a secular state.

[gispanec]

KOLIKOLINKO .... although this is a Syrian plane

[Lecha57]

Very good video. Only the militants do not know, probably, that at such a height and with such speed, it is extremely difficult to shoot down an aircraft from a machine gun or anti-aircraft gun.

[Lecha57]

Very good video. Only the militants do not know, probably, that at such a height and with such speed, it is extremely difficult to shoot down an aircraft from a machine gun or anti-aircraft gun.

[PSih2097]

Quote: gispanec

KOLIKOLINKO .... although this is a Syrian plane

The MiG-21 seems to be, or maybe ours sat down at the helm, so make an appeal ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Penetrator

... Resell Mistrals to whoever needs them, for example.

Why do we need them?

[Oberon812]

And where are we? Old Man, the Belarusian Sea to guard against oyster poachers

[Mercenary]

In the protection of our base in Syria would be useful, but something from the mortars Igilov trying to break the runway, not with planes chasing loners?

[gispanec]

But do we need AK guns or nafig? ... because there are poplars ..... if you do not need them, this does not mean that they are not needed by the Russian Navy .... the expediency of their purchase (construction) is accepted by the General Staff of the Russian Army .. .and it is necessary to argue-application-a suitcase ... can only myopic

[Barboskin]

And if we refuse to sell helicopters to the "who needs them"?

[jjj]

On the Mistrals there are also landing barges under our size

[donavi49]

And then what? Such a move by a horse will cause the following consequences:
- Saudi Arabia will stop giving money to Egypt and will give the same money to the opposition, the same restyled Muslim Brothers. A significant part of the budget and almost all military purchases are Saudi money.

- France will be offended and will impose sanctions, at least it will arrest Rafali ordered and paid.

- The EU will close tourism.

- The USA will stop the assistance programs and begin to finance the Maidan.

Given the first paragraph, this Maidan spontaneously formed in 3-5 months, because there is nothing to eat.

[donavi49]

Any existing helicopters. Just European Tigers are not very.

By the way, they will not take Ka-29, and now the order for NH-90 in the mistral is already in the final stage.

You can put a lower helicopter in a higher hangar, only service will be more convenient.

[Odysseus]

Quote: donavi49

Any existing helicopters. Just European tigers are not very

It is interesting in what configuration we will sell the Ka-52 if in our native army aviation they are still without ATGMs.

[Vladimyrych]

Who pays? Saudis? Why are they arming Egypt? Some questions ...

[Hon]

Quote: Vladimir

Who pays? Saudis? Why are they arming Egypt? Some questions ...

to use the Egyptian army in joint operations, there are precedents

[Vadim237]

Looks are afraid of the attack on Egypt by ISIS militants.

[Alexey-74]

It’s nice to make money, of course, but what about our army? When we have a large number of new equipment ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Alexey-74

but what about our army?

Come on, you don’t see people rejoicing, don’t bother them. Have you really not seen a cartoon robbery in Italian

[Tatar 174]

Quote: Alexey-74

It’s nice to make money, of course, but what about our army? When we have a large number of new equipment ...

That's how we earn money and we have money to equip our army with new equipment.

[AlexTires]

Of course, I’m glad of such news, but the question is: when will they do something for our Air Force ... before 20, they planned 146 units, will they really send it through an internal export order .. or the capacity will increase ...

[rumpeljschtizhen]

there’s nothing more to rejoice about in Egypt’s landing capabilities than in Russia .............. they’ll also set up new frigates for the French ... Germans of submarines .... and we’re not 52 in the army we'll see ... (some Milesian cars will be) And I'm not sure that this will not turn against us

[KGB WATCH YOU]

We already have 70+ Ka-52s out of 200 ordered before 2020. Here the question lies in the capabilities of the plant. Will they be able to provide our and the Egyptian order in parallel.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: KGB WATCH YOU

Will they be able to provide our and the Egyptian order in parallel.

Unreal!

[akudr48]

Whoever is lucky will have a cocksays the proverb.

It turns out that Russia was lucky with the Mistrals, or was it so conceived?

1. An order on the Mistral is made under the assumption (yes there, in confidence) that the French will build ships, but they will not transfer them. Ukraine has helped. The French did not pass, and Russia did not worry. Money back with interest. Russia gained knowledge of ships and technology, which also costs money.

2. Now France remains, in agreement with Russia, to deliver these ships to Egypt, a country which then will need to sell the Ka-52k for helicopter carriers.
What Russia has secured through France with a major customer for a new aircraft.

3. Russia after all in chocolate, namely:

a) Russia did not want unnecessary ships and did not receive

b) Save the money needed for his helicopter carrier

c) New knowledge and technology of helicopter carriers received

d) France sold the Mistrals to Egypt, a Russian-friendly country

e) Russia received a new customer for helicopters in Egypt

f) France put up a complete fool

g) The West split

h) Ukraine once again acted as a source of problems for the West

etc.

[Tatar 174]

Quote: akudr48

h) Ukraine once again acted as a source of problems for the West

And where does Ukraine ???

[V.ic]

Quote: Tatar 174

And where does Ukraine ???

Not the supply of "Mistrals" = sanctions against the Russian Federation = "war of the Russian Federation" with Ukraine + the return of Crimea to the Russian Federation. Enough?

[gispanec]

Quote: akudr48

Russia did not want unnecessary ships and did not receive

your nonsense submitted to the universal forum

Quote: akudr48

Saved the money needed for their helicopter carrier

it would be better to build your own right away than give the frogs to scroll and support the industry

Quote: akudr48

New knowledge and technology of helicopter carriers received

nonsense .... give 2 examples.

Quote: akudr48

France put up a complete fool

how? .... nonsense .... France, as it sold weapons around the world, still sells and does not know that we put it up as a fool

Quote: akudr48

The West split

what? .... half of Europe were offended by frogs that they didn’t sell us ??

Quote: akudr48

Ukraine once again acted as a source of problems for the West

and Mongolia ??? ..... well, since Ukraine has been attributed to the Mistrals, then it is necessary to Mongolia and Belarus .... nonsense

[31rus]

For each of your points, I can give counter arguments, the first and most serious mistake Egypt is a friendly country, how did you determine it? Who is Egypt arming against so that is the issue that is relevant, but arming rather seriously, they correctly write on the forum you need to see where the wind blows

[Mercenary]

Sadatt, too, was like a friend, and then spat in the face of our ambassador (naturally). He cut down military equipment, raped some money from the USSR and our guys cleared the Suez Canal at the risk of it.

[31rus]

For each of your points, I can give counter arguments, the first and most serious mistake Egypt is a friendly country, how did you determine it? Who is Egypt arming against so that is the issue that is relevant, but arming rather seriously, they correctly write on the forum you need to see where the wind blows

[Dimon19661]

Well now you can be happy for the city of Arsenyev, an order for several years to come.

[Mercenary]

Customers! And who will pay? A country where there are less than 2 (two) dollars per person per day. We write it down again, and then forgive? You might think yourself fattening, (and calculate how many high-precision bombs a day on ISIS throw). Remember France stopped bombing Libya (money and bombs ran out)
As the State Department would say, "I am concerned"

[nik39reg]

Everything is in order here! The deal is paid by the Saudis! Egypt has already agreed with them.

[KGB WATCH YOU]

Saudi Arabia pays for Egypt's participation in the "coalition" against the Yemeni Houthis.

[TIO1969]

Something Egypt, recently very often in the news on the purchase of weapons sounds. France has Rafali, Mistral, Frigates, Corvettes. Germany - submarines, the USA - tanks, Russia - helicopters, air defense .... A significant part of this weapon is due to the SA and the UAE. At the same time, the Saudis themselves do not deny themselves large-scale purchases of weapons. Still, there is a feeling that this is not just. Confrontation with Iran7 Or everyone has their own and common tasks.
It is still interesting to observe and analyze the competition in the procurement of weapons between Egypt and Algeria, maybe there is also some intrigue here?

[donavi49]

Egypt will soon have a big problem on how to shut off the flood of broads from Libya. Haftar surrenders. Libyan dawn after the victory will trample into Egypt to take away illegally annexed original Libyan lands, but IS wants to turn all of Egypt into the Caliphate.

To this we can add Mali - where in the east of the country, the broads from IS and Marib cut each other, and the French are not in a hurry there, having built a security perimeter in more secular western Mali.

Plus, the Saudis want to make Egypt the main fighting force of the Arab coalition. To the Egyptians, and not the UAE, Saudi gentlemen burned in boxes in all sorts of Yemen. In fact, Yemen is the first operation of the Arab coalition (SA, UAE, Bahrain) but far from the last. Sudan is also being prepared for meat for future operations. 6000 soldiers will be equipped by the end of the year, and in 2016 the Sudanese corps will be brought to 15000.

[Zaurbek]

The military budget of Egypt is subsidies from the USA and the Saudis, Egypt itself will not even pull the purchase of abrams. If money can be spent on our aircraft, then I will be very surprised. Although maybe our equipment on the Mistral which connects with the Ka-52 pushes this?

[AKESHA]

a little positive in the subject

[jovanni]

Quote: Penetrator

So Egypt is the birthplace of Nile alligators.

It seems that it is no longer))) The homeland of alligators smoothly moved to Russia! In general, jokes are jokes, but where did the Egyptians get so many babos? Maybe some new pyramid was found ...