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The Middle East was far away for the political leaders of Germany

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The week began with the unprecedented activity of the German leaders in the Middle East. On Sunday, Chancellor Angela Merkel visited Istanbul, where she met with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu. On Monday, the head of the German Foreign Ministry, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, spoke in Riyadh with Saudi King Salman ibn Abdul-Aziz and his colleague Adel Al-Jubeir, the KSA foreign minister.




Angela Merkel made a petitioner

Observers assessed both missions as failures. They talk about poor preparedness of visits, even their inopportuneness. They note that the German leaders, who had tried to penetrate the world agenda of the Middle East, found themselves in an extremely weak and somewhat losing position, because they came, above all, by the petitioners for their support in resolving the refugee crisis in Europe.

It seems that everything is correct, but this particular. The main thing here is the unwillingness of German politicians to build relations with Eastern leaders. In such contacts, details play a huge role. At one time, the former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, in a meeting with the Libyan Jamahiriya leader Muammar Gaddafi in March 2004, did not pay attention to the replica of the Libyan leader, which, incidentally, said in English (“You look good, you are still young”), and his posture (right foot imposingly imposing on the left foot to the interlocutor).

Blair called the meeting successful and even breakthrough. The Arab world laughed amicably at the arrogant British Prime Minister. By the standards of the Arabs, Gaddafi expressed his interlocutor the extreme degree of neglect and disrespect.

The case was remembered in comparison with the recent TV picture. The Bundeskanzlerin and the Turkish President posed for her. Recep Erdogan sat with a grim look, casually dropping a hand from the arm of his gilded throne. The President of Turkey didn’t even give a glance to the guest. Angela Merkel sat in the chair offered to her depressed. The world saw a self-confident leader with the sixth largest and most powerful army, whose ambitions extend to the restoration of the once powerful Ottoman empire, and I called in a petitioner who set off under the pressure of mass protests of Europeans (and Germans among them), frightened by the influx of migrants.

Truth be told, Erdogan had no reason to bow his head in front of his visiting guest. And it's not about gender habits (the native wife of the Turkish president publicly usually mince after him, wrapped up in oriental robes). After all, Angela Merkel in November 2012 of the year directly stated that she did not want Turkey’s full membership in the European Union, and negotiations were frozen. (However, over the previous ten years, the parties agreed on only one chapter of the accession agreement.)

Moreover, since the beginning of the Syrian conflict, Germany has established close ties with Iraqi Kurds. German soldiers teach them how to fight, provide other support. And even if these Kurds are not part of the Kurdistan Workers' Party banned in Turkey (Erdogan has always been in counter with her, and now he is fighting at all), their desire to create their own state sharply diverges from the imperial ambitions of the Turkish president. The Turkish authorities were also irritated by the intervention of Merkel in the Turkish Stream gas project. Finally, driven by the desire to get the votes of the Turkish diaspora in Germany, the chancellor sharply criticized Erdogan’s policy of violating human rights.

On the eve of the 100 visit, the representatives of the opposition Turkish intelligentsia appealed to the German Chancellor with an open letter. They called for the sake of short-term domestic political benefit not to close their eyes to the violation of European values ​​in Turkey - freedom of speech and the press.

Angela Merkel during the meetings in Istanbul did not react to this appeal. But Turkey recognized the "safe country of origin", where you can return refugees. She promised money for arranging transit camps for them. She promised to simplify the visa regime, restore talks on Turkey’s accession to the European Union - this year their new chapter should be opened.

On the eve of the parliamentary elections scheduled for November 1, Merkel’s visit played into the hands of the Turkish authorities. They did not give direct promises to the chancellor. The parties only managed to agree on intentions. Concrete results of the meeting in Istanbul did not bring.

Moreover, the visit of the German Chancellor to Turkey showed that Germany, which is applying for a permanent seat on the UN Security Council, is no more than a strong regional country. She learned how to troll the Greeks, Hungarians and other Young Europeans. Germany has no real influence on the processes of world politics. Therefore, the stated for negotiations theme of Syria was never implemented during the visit of Merkel to Istanbul.

Mission Impossible…


But the topic of Syria was actively discussed in Riyadh by German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier. He was also interested in the involvement of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in solving the problem of refugees from the Middle East. However, to a greater degree, the head of the German Foreign Ministry wanted to persuade Saudi Arabia and Iran to sit down at the negotiating table to resolve the Syrian crisis.

The stated mission was initially impossible. There are several system errors in it. The first is that although Saudi Arabia and Iran claim regional leadership, they do not have a decisive voice in resolving civil confrontation in Syria. There are more serious players in this field, and Steinmeier should be aware of this.

The second is the unreality of the goal. With the same success, you can offer, say, Barack Obama to join the Labor Party of Korea, and then be surprised that he refused. Exactly this was done by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Germany after meeting with the King of Saudi Arabia. He acknowledged that the "abyss" that ran between the political positions of Tehran and Riyadh "is now extremely difficult to overcome."

This "abyss" has a long history, in which the word "now" is not entirely appropriate. Observers usually qualify opposition in the Middle East as a conflict between Sunnis and Shiites - representatives of the most popular movements in Islam. But this is only part of the truth. In this region, the planets will spark multilayered contradictions that have a religious, ethnic, territorial, class character, etc.

Here is one of them. Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has a relatively young history. The Saudi state was born only in the eighteenth century, then was absorbed by the Ottoman Empire. More attempts were made to recreate it, but in reality the Saudi kingdom was revived only at the beginning of the last century, which by the standards of the East is no time at all. Nearby were Baghdad, Damascus, Tehran, Isfahan and other pillars of Eastern culture and history.

This is after the Second World War, the Saudis began to rise on oil. Before that - quite a poor Bedouin land. The rise of the kingdom of the Arabs took, reluctantly, like we - "new Russian" in 1990's. They began to consider them Saudi upstarts. On occasion, pull up, as did Muammar Gaddafi. In March, 2009-year, for example, at the summit of the League of Arab States, the Libyan leader criticized and insulted the King of Saudi Arabia Abdullah. The most gentle expression was in that speech “the product of Britain and the ally of the Americans.” Gaddafi considered himself "the imam of the Muslims, the head of the Arab rulers, the king of the kings of Africa."

Do not lag behind the subjects of the eastern rulers. In early September, MK.RU published evidence of 25-year-old citizen of Russia and Syria Michel Mizah. The guy returned from Damascus, where he fought in the ranks of the pro-government armed group "Shabiha". There is a remarkable confession in that interview: “Saudi Arabia is not loved for its wildness, backwardness and barbarism, as well as for uncultured pride caused by the presence of vast oil reserves. None of the Gulf countries loved them before the war because of their obscurantism. In turn, the Syrians consider themselves the heirs of ancient civilizations. ” In Syria, there was even a cafe (in Latakia), at the entrance of which a sign hung: "Saudis and dogs are not served."

This is the Arabs. What to say about the Iranians with their great culture and history? After all, the most important oil-bearing bay of the planet is not called Saudi or Qatari - Persian. This is a historical recognition of Iran (Persia) as the most important regional state.

And in Tehran, they know their value. So it's not just a matter of religious differences. For the right to dominate in the Middle East, Iranians are fighting with the Saudis in the blood. And Syria is only a fragment of this war. There is Iraq, Bahrain, Yemen ...

... As for Syria, it is now at war with international terrorists. This was recognized by famous Muslim theologians, and international politicians began to see clearly. They no longer repeat, like a mantra: "Assad must go!". I hope that there will come an obvious understanding that the roots of the terror covered in the religious banner in the Middle East feed on the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. German politicians have not yet grasped this and left outside the framework of their Middle Eastern negotiations the support of the gulf monarchies of the terrorist groups operating in Syria.
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  1. Professor
    Professor 22 October 2015 06: 46 New
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    What to say about the Iranians with their great culture and history?

    At least tell us about more than 10 million Iranians who cannot read and write. About the famous Iranian ballet and opera. There are no such? Then about the theater. Women are not there? Maybe about literature and poetry. This is where heretics are persecuted right up to the death penalty? What culture does the author talk about? About this?


    PS
    So many "experts" on BV are divorced today. Where not ... expert.
    1. venaya
      venaya 22 October 2015 06: 55 New
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      Quote: Professor
      What culture does the author talk about?

      What kind of culture in Persia was not, Now in the dominant "Abramic" culture, others, although there are, but almost in the corral. Your proposal to create civil cultural orders in the south. And what is it possible ?, given the local mentality.
      1. Professor
        Professor 22 October 2015 06: 58 New
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        Quote: venaya
        Your proposal to create civil cultural orders in the south.

        My suggestion is not to distort the facts and not to call obscurantism a "great culture."
        1. venaya
          venaya 22 October 2015 07: 20 New
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          They lagged behind in time significantly. In England, for example, in the Middle Ages there was already a whole hanging machine on the Gate Park with 17 loops on a common gallows, where they were also hung with a significant concentration of people, as shown in this picture. And the technique was more developed (17, executed at the same time), and the people gathered for a performance in advance, in the evening.
    2. Averias
      Averias 22 October 2015 08: 12 New
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      Quote: Professor
      At least tell us about more than 10 million Iranians who cannot read and write.

      Something you have been evil lately Professor. And about what you wrote, well, no need to distort and engage in idealization.
      1. After all, schools and, accordingly, education are free there. But whether they want to study or not is another question.
      2. Universities Azad Eslami, Payam-e Nur and the Comprehensive University of Applied Sciences. One of them, Azad Eslami, has about a million students and almost 400 branches in different cities of Iran. Does this mean something to you?
      3. Women: Currently, over 60% of all students are girls. Women work as teachers at universities, doctors and surgeons in hospitals, and engineers in factories. My relative worked there, confirms.
      4. Theaters and operas, and where on the BV were these theaters and operas widely developed? I don’t remember something like that. This is not in their culture. You still give "Cabaret" with cancan as an example.
      5. I don’t know about poetry, I’m not interested.
      6. But the fact that the death penalty is like they always had. For example, in China, too, the death penalty, and that, something about China you do not crucify.
      1. Professor
        Professor 22 October 2015 09: 07 New
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        Quote: Averias
        1. After all, schools and, accordingly, education are free there. But whether they want to study or not is another question.

        Education should not be paid or free, but high-quality or not high-quality. 10 million adults who can’t read speak for themselves.

        Quote: Averias
        2. Universities Azad Eslami, Payam-e Nur and the Comprehensive University of Applied Sciences. One of them, Azad Eslami, has about a million students and almost 400 branches in different cities of Iran. Does this mean something to you?

        This indicates a low percentage of people with higher education. In a country with a population of 81,824,270, there are only 2,448,000 students, and more than 10 million illiterate people are over 15 years old.

        Quote: Averias
        3. Women: Currently, over 60% of all students are girls. Women work as teachers at universities, doctors and surgeons in hospitals, and engineers in factories. My relative worked there, confirms.

        Not true. The report of UNESCO says that female students make up only 51%. At the same time, there are 1,667,200 more illiterates among women than men.

        Quote: Averias
        4. Theaters and operas, and where in the BV were these theaters and operas generally widely developed? I don’t remember something like that.

        In Israel.

        Quote: Averias
        5. I don’t know about poetry, I’m not interested.

        For example Rushdie. wink

        Quote: Averias
        6. But the fact that the death penalty is like they always had. For example, in China, too, the death penalty, and that, something about China you do not crucify.

        Public executions speak of the "high culture" of Iran, and does the fact that it "seems to have always been with them" justifies it? As for China, there will be a topic about China, there we will discuss the death penalty.
        1. Imperialkolorad
          Imperialkolorad 22 October 2015 09: 42 New
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          Professor, don’t be cunning, admit that you simply don’t like Iran on its own. And then there are so many smart, but very biased words about culture and education.
          1. Professor
            Professor 22 October 2015 09: 51 New
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            Quote: ImperialKolorad
            Professor, don’t be cunning, admit that you simply don’t like Iran on its own. And then there are so many smart, but very biased words about culture and education.

            Iran or Saudi Arabia is not a girl to like or dislike.

            Quote: ImperialKolorad
            Something about the Saudis is not heard from you and half a word, although everything is the same and nothing is democracy in the opinion of many.

            There will be an article about the "high culture" of the Saudis, and there we will discuss their obscurantism.
            1. viktorrymar
              viktorrymar 22 October 2015 10: 29 New
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              Public executions speak of the "high culture" of Iran, and does the fact that "they always seem to have it" justifies it?


              You are a professor, and without public executions, you’ll kill people, and you have to fight for your own skin, because you took this land by deceit, it’s not yours, and you’ll burn on it all the time in wars, but Iran lives on its own land, he lives peacefully, and if all creatures - Judas from the West and from the East had not climbed into his internal affairs, in general they would spit on everyone.
            2. Imperialkolorad
              Imperialkolorad 22 October 2015 11: 51 New
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              Quote: Professor
              Iran or Saudi Arabia is not a girl to like or dislike.

              However, this does not prevent you from being biased towards Iran.
              Quote: Professor
              There will be an article about the "high culture" of the Saudis, and there we will discuss their obscurantism.

              An interesting observation, how we are talking about IA, so immediately from Western-oriented comrades, moans about executions and "obscurantism" begin, and if Qatar or the Saudis are mentioned, blindness, deafness and other problems with the perception of cruel reality come so abruptly.
        2. user
          user 22 October 2015 11: 17 New
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          In Israel.


          Before Israel itself was formed in 1949, just do not rub in the history of the chosen people and 10 years of culture (because not everyone supports this point of view), you yourself can hardly convince yourself of this referring to the manuscripts known only to you. Even following your logic, for the last 000 years you have been loitering around the world "not restless and persecuted" and your population has not been spared by assimilation in many countries. (If you considered nationality not by mother, but like all peoples, it would not be understandable at all the size of your community). And recognized scientists, Einstein, for example (I will not give a longer list because all other names took place in one or another field of science and culture in various state formations, the USA, Switzerland, etc., but not in the State of Israel), those. this is not a Jewish scientist, but a product of Germany so hated by you (forget about the Holocaust for a moment) or other European or American culture and that society that has nothing to do with your country. Therefore, it is not correct to try on achievements in culture, science and other fields of people, and at the same time citizens of other states.
          In the United States, this is called an American (hereinafter referred to as nationality, Japanese, for example) of Japanese origin, but no one calls him Japanese, but they call an American because it is a product and a member of this society, with their views and attitudes to life and all their beliefs.
          And your stories do not end directly, well what can I say "the chosen people".
    3. dog1965
      dog1965 22 October 2015 08: 48 New
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      I understand that it is unpleasant for you to say something good about Iran. Although, as a professor, Achmenidian art is probably familiar to you, and I think that you know where Zoroastrianism originated (I do not mean a geographical location). Of course, they heard about the ancient Persian lunar calendar or the Behistun rock inscription. Well, the thousand-year history of statehood of the Persians is not necessary to dispute.
      Culture is not measured by the absence or presence of the death penalty. Here you, as the saying goes, "hit the sky". Although, of course, I prefer the moratorium on the death penalty. But this apparently comes from Christian traditions. It seems that death is not executed in Israel either?
      1. Professor
        Professor 22 October 2015 09: 16 New
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        Quote: Dog1965
        Culture is not measured by the absence or presence of the death penalty.

        Not the death penalty as such, but public hangings with the presence of children, public self-mutilation.

        Quote: Dog1965
        Doesn't Israel seem to be executed by death too?

        For 60 years, 2 cases.
        1. Imperialkolorad
          Imperialkolorad 22 October 2015 09: 44 New
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          Quote: Professor
          Not the death penalty as such, but public hangings with the presence of children, public self-mutilation.

          Something about the Saudis is not heard from you and half a word, although everything is the same and nothing is democracy in the opinion of many.
    4. viktorrymar
      viktorrymar 22 October 2015 10: 17 New
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      Professor: So many "experts" on BV have divorced today. Where not ... expert.

      Well, where are they up to you? You have all the Jews who are completely intelligent and educated, and the fact that until the forties they wandered without a flag and homeland, like the Kurds, but mimicked other nations, it’s normal, the Jews wrote a great story to themselves, called themselves God's children, forced everyone to believe it, the rest consider goyim-nonhumans, and moreover, they still judge everyone ...
      Stumble

      Yes, and look at the picture, find IRAN.

      And the fact that criminals hang in the squares, so I would hang someone too, so that others wouldn’t be wretched, democracy fuck ... divorced, we can’t cope with crime, pedophiles, maniacs, drug dealers and other dirt crawled out of the cracks .. .
      1. Professor
        Professor 22 October 2015 10: 31 New
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        Quote: viktorrymar
        Well, where are they up to you?

        The article is not "about us" and not your attitude towards Jews. fool

        Quote: viktorrymar
        Yes, and look at the picture, find IRAN.

        I looked. And what has changed? Literacy in Iran is 86.8%. Total more than 10 million illiterate.
    5. but still
      but still 22 October 2015 11: 12 New
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      Professor, it is commendable that you are concerned about the literacy of the Iranians. But, nevertheless, should not you first notice the log in your eye? I will quote you your compatriot, Semyon Shulman, doctor of economic sciences, professor from
      Mr. Ashdod (quite by chance came across his text on the Internet):

      "... If in the 80s of the last century the haredim made up 4% of the population of Israel, now it is already 10%. In less than 20 years they will make up 20% of the Jewish population, and 40% of children will study in yeshivas. Today, children are haredim. make up 25% of the number of Jewish children - twice as many as 10 years ago.If there are 3,3 children in the average Israeli and Jewish families, then in the Orthodox - 7,5 children.In 2010, a third of Israeli newborns appeared in haredi families During the first decade of this century, the number of students in the country's general education schools decreased by 3%, and in the system of religious education it increased by 51%. According to the Jerusalem Institute, of the Jews of the capital in 2011, 30% were haredim, ultra-Orthodox Jews and 20 % Datim, believers According to the Ministry of Social Security, there are about 90 different sects in Israel, with about 100 members.

      The frightening rise and strengthening of the country's haredization, the orthodoxy of society have a serious impact on the younger generation, oppose the desire of society to form educated youth. Considering the speed at which the influence of the Orthodox on Israeli society is growing, the increase in the number of children in Orthodox schools, where the exact sciences are not studied, and the main subject is TANAH, then the future of Israel will be in jeopardy in 20 years. "
      http://www.arad-plus.com/%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%8B-%D0%BD%D0%B0
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      1. Professor
        Professor 22 October 2015 11: 15 New
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        Quote: but still
        Professor, it is commendable that you are concerned about the literacy of the Iranians. But, nevertheless, should not you first notice the log in your eye?

        Among haredim, literacy is 100%.
        1. but still
          but still 22 October 2015 11: 36 New
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          Quote: Professor

          Among haredim, literacy is 100%.


          Yes, literacy is to be read all day by Torah - not to work, or to earn extra money because of low professional qualifications, not to serve in the army and be content with state subsidies. winked

          Given the ultra-fertility among ultra-Orthodox, who in your country will work and serve in the army in 20 years? request
    6. Makarov
      Makarov 22 October 2015 12: 20 New
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      Does culture and history lie exclusively in such works of art as opera, ballet and theater? And you are talking about literature and poetry in vain ... There is no sense in arguing with you on this topic, since you do not recognize their culture as a whole, and therefore you undoubtedly have little knowledge of it, it’s the same as with a_n_ t_ and_ s and m and talk about Jewish culture ... catch the idea?
      1. Professor
        Professor 22 October 2015 12: 38 New
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        Quote: Makarov
        Does culture and history lie exclusively in such works of art as opera, ballet and theater?

        Maybe they have painting? Or maybe sculptures are sculpted? Can women sing and dance with them? So what is their "great culture"? wink

        Quote: ImperialKolorad
        However, this does not prevent you from being biased towards Iran.

        I have the same attitude towards the obscurantists of Saudi Arabia.
        1. Makarov
          Makarov 22 October 2015 12: 48 New
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          Aydin Aghdashlu, Muhammad Ali Taragijah, Taha Behbahani ... but about women - how modern women of the "developed" world sing and dance, it would be better if they did not do this ... and by the way, this is part of their culture, but from the fact that you do not understand it does not mean that it is flawed ... besides, here you can find both + and -, and their Great culture is just in their history and those contemporary artists and sculptors who work there today ... For example - Mohammad Badrossama - Have you seen his paintings? or Mohammad Baker Akamiri? I immediately advised you not to get involved in a dispute, being sure that you do not have the information and necessary knowledge in this area, but relying solely on a prejudiced attitude towards the entire Arab world, you cannot give an objective assessment of their culture ...
          1. Professor
            Professor 22 October 2015 12: 57 New
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            Quote: Makarov
            but about women - how modern women of the "developed" world sing and dance, it would be better if they did not do it ..

            Yes Yes. Opera is not that now.

            Quote: Makarov
            I immediately advised you not to get involved in the dispute, being sure that you do not own the information and necessary knowledge in this area, and relying solely on a biased attitude towards the entire Arab world, you can not give an objective assessment of their culture ...

            Of course I don’t, because I can’t score "Contemporary Iranian Art" in Google. I was banned from Google. I couldn't find anything about ballet and opera. request
  2. Das Boot
    Das Boot 22 October 2015 07: 16 New
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    Indeed, the most important oil-bearing bay of the planet is called not Saudi or Qatari - Persian. This is the historical recognition of Iran (Persia) as the most important regional state.

    In the furnace ... I did not hear more stupidity.
    Actually, his second name is Arabic ...
    1. viktorrymar
      viktorrymar 22 October 2015 14: 38 New
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      The name of this reservoir is disputed by Arab countries that wish to call it the "Arabian Gulf."

      When the gulf was already called "Persian" the Arabs of the Arabian peninsula drove around the dunes on camels and they didn't care about the gulf, and now when there was a hell of a lot of money, you see pride leaped))))
      1. traveler
        traveler 22 October 2015 21: 18 New
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        it was only a long time ago that the Arabs captured Persia, and not vice versa, and Islamized it. and Persian statehood proper was revived only in 1923 (except for Tajik Samanids). so you don’t have to lift the nose of the Persians
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 October 2015 07: 38 New
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    since they arrived, first of all, by petitioners

    You can agree with the author. Indeed, the refugee problem has even changed the rhetoric of Merkel herself on this issue in Germany. A dejected look - so it’s not Greece to level up and teach other European countries how to live and how to save.
  4. cniza
    cniza 22 October 2015 08: 52 New
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    It seems that Ms. Merkel simply does not know what to do, so she rushed about.
  5. Roy
    Roy 22 October 2015 10: 40 New
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    The so-called "political leaders of Germany" must first look at their own "Middle East" located inside the country. The Germans will soon be gone.
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  7. but still
    but still 22 October 2015 11: 26 New
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    Recently, many articles have appeared with the question "Who organizes the refugees to storm Europe". All racked their brains and asked themselves the question "Who benefits from this?" So, willingly, or unwillingly, it got to the point that again they had to talk about the facilitation of the EU visa regime with Turkey and the financing of refugee camps on its territory - the Turks have been striving for this for a long time. The media named several countries suspected of sending migrants to the EU. Turkey can be added to these countries.
  8. Belousov
    Belousov 22 October 2015 13: 14 New
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    "The East is a delicate matter," especially if you initially approach it with European habits and requirements. At first, the Europeans completely ignored the Turks, and now they ran to bow. Well, now Erdogan from Merkel will twist the ropes and absolutely deservedly.
  9. Fastenkov
    Fastenkov 23 October 2015 02: 43 New
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    [quote = professor] [quote = Makarov] Does culture and history consist solely in such works of art as opera, ballet and theater? [/ quote]
    Maybe they have painting? Or maybe sculptures are sculpted? Can women sing and dance with them? So what is their "great culture"? wink

    .... ".... I myself, personally, do not know why all this is needed, but I heard that every decent society has it all ..." (The Doomed City, from the dialogue between Izi Katzman and Geiger Fritz) ...
    Professor, and the presence of cultural attributes (in the European sense) is a sign of what?
  10. Enky
    Enky 23 October 2015 07: 43 New
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    And no one paid attention to how famously the "professor" denied national identity to all nationalities except his beloved? There is no theater and ballet, well, everything, your thousand-year culture does not mean anything ... You have only 51% of women in universities (every second student) - you are illiterate savages ... You are publicly executed - but you are obscurantists, but what the whole region publicly executes, and some of the most civilized ones feed IS, where they cut their heads for breakfast, lunch and dinner, so we will modestly keep silent about this ... And what about the "professor", your rules are the most correct and your faith is the only true one? The ultimate truth is straightforward and it is necessary to force it on all peoples, which is what your masters from the FSA are doing, I hope the majority here will not agree with this.
    1. Professor
      Professor 23 October 2015 16: 38 New
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      Quote: Enky
      And no one paid attention to how famously the "professor" denied national identity to all nationalities except his beloved? There is no theater and ballet, well, everything, your thousand-year culture does not mean anything ... You have only 51% of women in universities (every second student) - you are illiterate savages ... You are publicly executed - but you are obscurantists, but what the whole region publicly executes, and some of the most civilized ones feed IS, where they cut their heads for breakfast, lunch and dinner, so we will modestly keep silent about this ... And what about the "professor", your rules are the most correct and your faith is the only true one? The ultimate truth is straightforward and it is necessary to force it on all peoples, which is what your masters from the FSA are doing, I hope the majority here will not agree with this.

      Russia is a completely different matter. And ballet and opera, painting and sculpture. Women on stage and in universities. And they are not executed on the streets. Russia needs to learn culture, not Iran.
    2. padded jacket
      padded jacket 23 October 2015 16: 46 New
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      By the way, let's not forget that recently, Israeli Prime Minister Natanyahu tried to justify Hitler, so now you can expect everything from him.
  11. Megatron
    Megatron 23 October 2015 18: 43 New
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    Yes, haredim, cool guys, you can't make you work too much, they don't go to the army to defend the state, but they mumble the Torah all day and "live according to its precepts." And not just like the Gentiles, even their fellow tribesmen are considered "goyim". And they breed like cockroaches. At this rate, it is already a real threat to the state of Israel. So, Israelis, fear not Arabs - but penguins!