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The Americans for the first time conducted tests of the formed missile defense system in Europe

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For the first time since the deployment of missile defense elements in Europe, the United States conducted tests of its emerging system. The interception of a ballistic missile that was moving over European territory was carried out by the short-range anti-missile missile Terrier Orion from the sea range on the Hebrides (located off the western coast of Scotland).


The anti-missile missile was launched from the US destroyer USS Ross (DDG 71), which is involved in the MTMD Forum, which is conducted by the NATO countries. As reported in the press service of the US Navy, the anti-missile successfully intercepted a ballistic missile SM-3 Block IA.

Testing of elements of the American missile defense system is demonstrated on the Internet. A video of the launch of the anti-missile missile from the side of the destroyer is presented by the press service US Navy. The video of the interception of a ballistic missile was not published.



According to NATO officials, the missile defense system in Europe, created by the Americans, will be fully formed by 2018 year. Some of its elements are present in Spain, Poland and Romania.
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  1. avvg
    avvg 21 October 2015 06: 36 New
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    But we are not afraid of it! Russian missiles can overcome any missile defense system without fail.
    1. Dembel77
      Dembel77 21 October 2015 06: 59 New
      16
      No matter how much the jackal repeats about his peacefulness, habits will still give out a predator. And US actions in Europe once again confirm this. Because the deployment and testing of a missile defense system in Europe is not at all defense, but just a means of attack.
      1. figwam
        figwam 21 October 2015 08: 35 New
        0
        A video of the interception of a ballistic missile is not yet published.

        So I don’t know whether she intercepted the rocket or not.
        1. shtanko.49
          shtanko.49 21 October 2015 10: 06 New
          +2
          It was smooth on paper, but forgot about the ravines. It’s one thing to shoot at a specific target and quite another when you don’t know where and what will fly, and even under enemy fire.
        2. Human-dv
          Human-dv 21 October 2015 10: 11 New
          0
          intercepted and delivered to the base intact
          1. Altona
            Altona 21 October 2015 10: 33 New
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            Quote: Human-DV
            intercepted and delivered to the base intact

            --------------------
            And what is generally shown in the video? Fireworks launch rehearsal? Something flew out with a loud bang, something burned out inside the rocket container. Some garbage. And I thought ...
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 21 October 2015 07: 16 New
      +6
      According to the press service of the US Navy, a missile defense successfully intercepted a ballistic missile SM-3 Block IA.
      I didn’t even eat it ... is the SM-3 Block IA an interceptor missile ...? or has everything changed? belay
      1. atalef
        atalef 21 October 2015 07: 29 New
        +3
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        According to the press service of the US Navy, a missile defense successfully intercepted a ballistic missile SM-3 Block IA.
        I didn’t even eat it ... is the SM-3 Block IA an interceptor missile ...? or has everything changed? belay

        Hi Andrew.
        . US Navy website.

        The launch of the Terrier Orion short-range training ballistic missile was carried out from a range on the Hebrides Islands, located in the Atlantic Ocean off the western coast of Scotland. At the same time, two anti-ship missiles were launched.

        Ракета-перехватчик Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) Block IA была запущена с эсминца "Росс" (USS Ross, DDG 71) и успешно уничтожила баллистическую цель в космосе. С борта корабля USS The Sullivans (DDG 68) были запущены SM-2, перехватившие противокорабельные ракеты. На сайте ВМФ отмечается, что в ходе испытания был осуществлен первый перехват баллистической цели в Европе, первый запуск ракеты SM-3 за пределами США, а также получен первый опыт международного взаимодействия в рамках европейской ПРО.

        According to the Sixth Operational Fleet of the US Navy, the exercises included all four American destroyers equipped with the AEGIS missile defense system, which are constantly based in Rota (Spain). In addition to the United States, the United Kingdom, Germany, Spain, Italy, Canada, the Netherlands, Norway and France also took part in the exercises. These countries are part of the Maritime Theater of War Forum, created in 1999. The organization was created to coordinate efforts to create a missile defense system.
        1. Saburov
          Saburov 21 October 2015 08: 00 New
          13
          As always, the Yankees do not indicate either goal parameters, character, or speed ... On March 31, Senior Officer at the Center for US and European Affairs at the Brookings Institution Stephen Pifer wrote in The National Interest magazine that there is no reliable and affordable defense system in the USA from intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) and submarine ballistic missiles (SLBMs). - When I once asked an American official who was versed in the question of what he would have done if the DPRK launched an intercontinental ballistic missile in the direction of Seattle, he said that he would launch several interceptor missiles of the “Land Missile Defense System on the marching flight section” "(Ground-Based Midcourse Defense, GBMD) and would have crossed fingers," the expert wrote.
          The US missile defense system is, as they say, at the stage of laboratory tests. Well, the Americans shot down a missile defense satellite at an altitude of 200 kilometers. But who will attack a nuclear missile with just one missile defense today? The tests of the system took place, so to speak, in a lightened environment - without jamming, the target path was known in advance, its parameters and a beacon was installed on the target. So, the American missile defense system is not such a formidable force, as they say about it. And even more so, there will be no full-fledged tests with the launch of 5-10 ballistic missiles for full testing of the missile defense system.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 21 October 2015 10: 17 New
            +3
            for Saburov:
            " если бы КНДР запустили межконтинентальную баллистическую ракету в сторону Сиэтла,
            he said he would launch several land-based interceptor missiles
            противоракетной обороны на маршевом участке полета"////

            He told the truth. The effectiveness of intercepting ICBMs with anti-ballistic missiles from Alaska is about
            50% (according to test results). Those. correctly launch 3 missiles to intercept to get an interception.

            But I remind you that the effectiveness of missiles during the Vietnam War was even lower. 3-4 missiles were launched. Then the accuracy has improved - now they start up by 2.
            Missile defense systems have already been deployed - this is not a laboratory, but the effectiveness of the defeat
            still low.
            1. Altona
              Altona 21 October 2015 10: 38 New
              0
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Missile defense systems have already been deployed - this is not a laboratory, but the effectiveness of the defeat
              still low.

              --------------------
              Increasing the accuracy and efficiency of the existing system will also increase its already unbearable cost ... Second, it is still more of an attack weapon for attacking enemy control posts and key defense elements, provided that the container does not have anti-missiles, but strike missiles .. .
            2. Saburov
              Saburov 21 October 2015 13: 18 New
              +1
              Do you remember how many old Iraqi Scuds Patriot managed to intercept? But statements about the invincibility of the Patriot were oh so much ... According to the Israeli Ministry of Defense, the Patriots, despite the cost of missile defense (including the case with the expenditure of 28 units on target, managed to intercept no more than 20% of the missiles launched by Iraqis.
            3. mark2
              mark2 21 October 2015 18: 13 New
              0
              Это Вы нас пугаете или себя успокаиваете? Это я про "Железный купол" ))
          2. mark2
            mark2 21 October 2015 18: 11 New
            0
            Putin and Obama are sitting, talking, drinking tea and then Vladimir Vladimirovich and says:
            - Barack, let's play the game alone. For one check the strength of our armies?
            - Come on, and in which?
            -- Ну... Мы будем запускать свою "Булаву", а вы будете сбивать её своим ПРО.
            Obama's eyes popped out:
            - And if we can’t?
            - Well, it's okay, we'll launch another one for you! )))
        2. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 21 October 2015 08: 07 New
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          Launch of the Terrier Orion short-range training ballistic missile ...
          well, that’s how it will be right yes
          Hello Sasha.. hi
      2. yushch
        yushch 21 October 2015 09: 33 New
        +2
        Я слышал,что SM-3 помимо перехвата МБР еще могут использоваться как ракеты "земля-земля" и вполне могут быть использованны амерами в своей концепции глобального обезоруживающего неядерного удара. По кому этот удар планируется думаю все понимают.
        1. ROD VDVshny
          ROD VDVshny 21 October 2015 11: 48 New
          +3
          Quote: yushch
          and may well be used by amers in their concept of a global disarming non-nuclear strike.

          I have great doubts that this concept today is not the biggest headache of mattresses and companies.
          ЕвроПРО заточена под борьбу с баллистическими ракетами. "Глаза" - радары системы, цели громоздкие и сложные, их так просто никуда не спрячешь...могут быть изящно выведены из строя теми же замечательными Калибрами. После этого система практически бесполезна. Вот тогда, при необходимости "добавить", и пойдут баллистические lol
          Regarding the Ajis and the anti-missile defense belt around scanomatrasia, I had doubts after reading this article: "Degradation" of destroyers "Arly Burke" http://army-news.ru/2013/10/degradaciya-esmincev-arli-berk/
          Particularly impressed: The main component of the Aegis system is a powerful three-coordinate radar with four fixed phased antenna arrays capable of detecting and automatically tracking hundreds of aerial targets, programming autopilots of anti-aircraft missiles and tracking targets in low-Earth orbit.

          In practice, she showed the opposite. Despite its state-of-the-art look and ample opportunities to control the airspace over long distances, the AN / SPY-1 radar was “weak-sighted” when it detected low-flying targets (NLC) - and it shares!

          In the open press, there is still no information about the defeat by Aegis of supersonic air targets at extremely low altitude - probably, the American Berks have not learned how to deal with such threats. The released “Mosquito” or the Russian-Indian “Brahmos” are likely to break through the destroyer’s air defense / missile defense system and hit the target. That is ... and CALIBER ALSO
          It also hardens lol the certainty that the Darkest, as usual, did not open all the cards and aces still up his sleeve.
          С моей точки зрения, многомиллиардная и высокозатратная в содержании система ПРО и огромная корабельная группировка в номинации "товар-качество" уже соло не танцуют.
          I am pleased to hear the opinion of specialists, I do not pretend to the ultimate truth
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    3. 222222
      222222 21 October 2015 10: 33 New
      -1
      Американцы впервые провели испытания формируемой системы ПРО в Европе"
      Let's - build more all over Europe ..
      ...каспийская флотилия одним залпом сделала ненужной американскую ПРО в Европе и тем самым этим залпом сняла " иранскую угрозу для Европы" . laughing ."Иранской.Ракетной угрозы "для Европы больше НЕТ!!!Не плохо бы Европе поблагодарить Россию!!! laughing
  2. Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 21 October 2015 06: 37 New
    +9
    One devil will not succeed in intercepting anything, for Iskander and the caliber will be burned there sooner ...
  3. Oman 47
    Oman 47 21 October 2015 06: 40 New
    16
    Попытка оправдаться после "каспийского салюта" ? belay
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 21 October 2015 06: 43 New
      11
      Unsuccessful attempt, I will tell you. It’s useless to shoot SM-3 on Caliber, it flies most of the flight near the ground
      1. Manul
        Manul 21 October 2015 07: 54 New
        +3
        Quote: Wiruz
        Unsuccessful attempt, I will tell you. It’s useless to shoot SM-3 on Caliber, it flies most of the flight near the ground

        Still, we are talking about intercepting a ballistic missile, and we have enough of them. Or do we admit that our Poplars and Yars became useless with the advent of missile defense? I'm interested in the technical side of the issue.
        1. How they will fix and track the missile launched from our territory (well, or Iran laughing from which sanctions are lifted laughing laughing ) с помощью каких радаров?(Мы же для этого Воронежи строим.А что есть у "партнеров"?)
        2. Surprised that the destroyers are part of the missile defense. I thought missile defense is a network of ground-based missile defense systems. Are ships on an ongoing basis in the form of combat duty supposed to barrage in a certain area? That is, a submarine in which case you don’t have to bother with the search?
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 21 October 2015 09: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: Manul
          1. How to fix

          Quote: Manul
          2. Surprised that the destroyers are part of the missile defense.

          уууу...брат! как у тебя всё запущено...! необходимо видимо "тех.минимум" пройти,чтоб элементарные вопросы(ваши) не ставили вас в тупик...минус не ставлю,а лучше бы "двоечку" за невыученные уроки! hi
          1. Manul
            Manul 21 October 2015 09: 15 New
            +2
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            уууу...брат! как у тебя всё запущено...! необходимо видимо "тех.минимум" пройти,чтоб элементарные вопросы(ваши) не ставили вас в тупик...

            This is not an answer. You can give a reference, at least write a few words about what to look for, and those who themselves know nothing can pat on the shoulder. hi
            1. region58
              region58 21 October 2015 10: 03 New
              +1
              Quote: Manul
              You can give a reference, at least write a few words about what to look for

              Да набери в поисковой строке любого браузера "система про сша" - зачитаешься.
          2. Manul
            Manul 21 October 2015 12: 49 New
            +1
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            необходимо видимо "тех.минимум" пройти,чтоб элементарные вопросы(ваши) не ставили вас в тупик...минус не ставлю,а лучше бы "двоечку" за невыученные уроки!

            Quote: region58
            Да набери в поисковой строке любого браузера "система про сша" - зачитаешься.

            I do not understand what is difficult to answer request . But the question hung in the air, you have to answer yourself.

            Dear Manul. The missile defense system consists of 3 echelons - land, sea and space.
            The ground consists of early warning radars and long-range sensors that work in the interests of ensuring the potential of both the tactical and strategic missile defense system. These include: appropriate means of the leading NATO countries, as well as long-standing ground-based early warning radars of the US strategic missile defense system, which were deployed in the UK (in Failingdales) in 1962, Denmark (near Tula, Greenland) in 1961 and in 1998 in the north of Norway (Vardø), which is about 60 km from the border with Russia. All these radars have undergone modernization in recent years.
            http://ria.ru/spravka/20110713/399998194.html#ixzz3pByJfUjp
            Kwajalein from the Marshall Islands is planning to move to the Czech Republic.
            Aegis is a universal BIUS, and can also track ballistic launches. With the number of destroyers that the United States has, it is not difficult for them to saturate the waters for the timely detection of missile launches.

            The third tier of the missile defense system provides the first two actions - a network of detection satellites.
            The SBIRS ballistic missile early detection space system is expected to be implemented in a two -chevel version. It was also stated that 24 STSS satellites should be put into low Earth orbit, and 5 SBIRSs will be put into geostationary orbit, the task of which will be to detect ballistic missile launches. (Wiki)

            The number of countries participating in missile defense is also constantly growing, and many countries are in the process of negotiations.
            Take a look at the rest of the details yourself on the Internet, as there is a lot of information about it and you won’t tell everything at once. hi
      2. Oman 47
        Oman 47 21 October 2015 08: 59 New
        +1
        I'm a little about that.
        About a curved mattress attempt to save face, to prove own significance.
        The political moment outweighs the purely technical one.
        Plus, an attempt to reassure their mattress toppers.
  4. The stranger
    The stranger 21 October 2015 06: 40 New
    0
    Or partisans.
  5. inkass_98
    inkass_98 21 October 2015 06: 40 New
    +5
    Is everyone defending themselves from Iran? Nu-nu ... Then, for some reason, resentful cries are heard, why is it that the Strategic Missile Forces rockets are aimed at them, and what for us?
  6. Wiruz
    Wiruz 21 October 2015 06: 41 New
    +1
    It is time for us to conduct training launches 77n6. The sensor of patriotism goes off scale
  7. SAM 5
    SAM 5 21 October 2015 06: 46 New
    10
    A video of the interception of a ballistic missile is not yet published.

    ... t. K. target self-destructive wink
    1. drunkram
      drunkram 21 October 2015 07: 28 New
      +3
      What are you talking about? just another hospital flew past the ship, and that
  8. ASUR
    ASUR 21 October 2015 06: 47 New
    +1
    + какая-нибудь модификация РЭБ'ота окажется рядом.
    and put everything in the pants .. as always
  9. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 21 October 2015 06: 49 New
    0
    Mattresses play in public, puffed up.
  10. Nymp
    Nymp 21 October 2015 06: 51 New
    +2
    Америка после русско-сирийской накаута пытается сохранить строгий вид мирового жандарма. Поигрывают мускулами перед лицом русского "агрессора". Предсказуемый шаг, "ПРО в Европе не нравится русским! Сеячас мы их напрягём, а заодно и Европе покажем кто в доме хозяин!" Они совсем не чувствуют, что этот предсказуемый напряг играет ещё и на подрыв их имиджа.
  11. Flinky
    Flinky 21 October 2015 06: 52 New
    0
    For the first time I hear that the northern part of AO is a European territory.
    The United States first tested missile defense in Europe, destroying a training ballistic missile in the North Atlantic. As the U.S. Navy press service said on Tuesday, the firing was carried out from the destroyer Ross, which takes part in naval exercises along with the ships of the American NATO allies.
  12. Barakuda
    Barakuda 21 October 2015 06: 52 New
    10
    Cool. Mattresses believe all this, like children. Santa Claus steers. A geyropa rejoices, the first to turn to ashes. WELL NOT ID.I.HEAT? request
  13. Vincent
    Vincent 21 October 2015 06: 57 New
    +1
    With equal strength, Americans believe in two things - in their own skill and invulnerability. Most likely the puppeteer does not care about reality, the main thing is to unleash the third world one, and there the whole world is in ruin. As a result, the one under whose leadership private armies will remain will rule.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 21 October 2015 07: 52 New
      +2
      Американцы до сих пор верят что их спасёт океанский барьер,но его нет со времён Карибского кризиса.Во время Карибского кризиса американцы обнаружили лишь половину наших лодок и то только те у которых были плохие аккумуляторы и дефектные дизели.Три лодки,причём один ракетоносец они обнаружить не смогли.Это я прочитал в книге контр-адмирала Лебедько"На всех океанах планеты".Он же пишет что тогда американцы поняли что океанского барьера у них нет.Потом они забывали об этом и пришлось провести операции Апорт и Атрина.Похоже пришло время напомнить об этом.ОКЕАНСКОГО БАРЬЕРА У США НЕТ.И первыми его прорвали японцы в 1942году.
  14. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 21 October 2015 07: 03 New
    +3
    Provocateurs.

    We need to build copies of iconic Zapadensky structures (Statue of Liberty, Washington Monument, Eiffel Tower, etc.) at our landfills from waste materials - you can inflatable - and experience our rockets on them.
    1. Socialism 2.0
      Socialism 2.0 21 October 2015 07: 05 New
      +2
      don't slip into north korean
  15. Robinzone
    Robinzone 21 October 2015 07: 03 New
    +2
    американцы, несмотря на отсталость своих противоракет, располагают базы так называемой "ПРО" как можно ближе к России. Меня в этой ситуации настораживает то, что они знают, что мы знаем, что их противоракеты, извините, кал.
    BUT!
    Эти потомки военных преступников хорошо знают, что мы первыми не ударим, поэтому им особо беспокоиться не надо о качестве своей ПРО в Европе. Это знание позволяет в обеспечение стратегии "первого глобального удара" "по-тихому", запихнуть туда, для начала, томагавки, а затем то, что разработают по-круче.

    But the real missile defense may not be necessary for them, because they will act within the framework of this strategy.
    And we must remember they just wait ...

    This is all somewhat alarmist, but I would do it in their place.
  16. Wedmak
    Wedmak 21 October 2015 07: 04 New
    +5
    The interception of a ballistic missile moving over European territory was carried out from a sea range on the Hebrides (located off the western coast of Scotland) with a short-range missile defense Terrier Orion.

    Do I understand correctly that this is such a small anti-aircraft racket? And for some reason, in different publications it is called either a missile defense, then a ballistic missile, or something else. For some reason, the TTX does not shine anywhere, but judging by the size, its radius of action is not too large.
    1. anfil
      anfil 21 October 2015 07: 33 New
      +4
      Recently, the media and the blog - sphere have been actively voicing opinions,
      that the US missile defense system, and in particular, its European segment, is not
      represent, and will not pose a threat to the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation for a long time to come. And this
      opinions are voiced not only by journalists and bloggers, but also by a number of former
      military on the pages of print media, in particular, the former chief
      Strategic Missile Forces headquarters V.I. Esin, who gave an interview to the newspaper VPK (http: //vpk-news.ruarticles17289).
      The position of the former military leader can be expressed in terms of missile defense with the following citations:
      –... To be afraid that before 2020, Americans will create a system capable of
      intercept Russian ICBMs, it’s not worth ....
      –... As an expert who has devoted more than one year to this problem, I believe that in
      in the form in which they create their missile defense system, for the period 2020 – 2025, it will not have the ability to significantly affect the potential of nuclear deterrence in Russia ....
      –... the Americans still have not conducted a single test on the real
      interception of the intercontinental missile warhead. They
      limited to intercepting targets ...


      More details link:http://www.dancomm.ru/o_evropro_i_standard_missile-3.pdf
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 21 October 2015 07: 52 New
        0
        created by the United States missile defense, and, in particular, its European segment is not
        pose, and for a long time will not pose a threat to the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation

        Именно поэтому сейчас наши усиленно пилят тему "Сармат" и "Баргузин". И продукты выйдут как раз к 20-му году я полагаю. Так же усиленно идут разработки новых БЧ для МБР. Тут правда даже слухов нет что и как называется, но хочется надеяться, что работают над темой.
  17. arane
    arane 21 October 2015 07: 06 New
    +6
    Hm! Are there any sane people? What are you talking about? What does the caliber and iskander have to do with it? Yes, our construction battalion about shovels in the cabbage, in the dust ....
    First of all, a system for intercepting strategic missiles. And its successful test in the near future may create a false or real feeling of a relatively safe (acceptable) preventive strike from the United States! Successful implementation of pro is a direct violation of strategic parity! And take this seriously
  18. slizhov
    slizhov 21 October 2015 07: 10 New
    +1
    Create, create, as your Ishil ...
    Everything will sink into oblivion at once ...
  19. 31rus
    31rus 21 October 2015 07: 11 New
    0
    Уважаемые,при чем тут "Калибр",систему ПРО в Европе начали воплощать уже давно и скорее наши "Калибры"ответ на размещения ПРО,само уничтожение ракеты это лишь часть общей системы,(разведка,обнаружение,сопровождение,классификация,уничтожение),не надо думать что "Искандер"и "Калибр"решат все проблемы,та же морская составляющая ПРО
    1. Vincent
      Vincent 21 October 2015 07: 25 New
      0
      But does the missile defense itself solve the problem of intercepting missiles maneuvering along the entire flight path? What to do with this problem?
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 21 October 2015 08: 11 New
        +1
        No matter how they write, but in reality even up-to-date air defense can penetrate up to 20% of likely enemy’s planes. The percentage of modern missile defense breakthroughs is somewhere around 40-50%. Does this mean that in theory half of the missiles will break through. And what warheads will be used for interception? If kinetic, then the percentage of breakthrough will depend on the type of interference used by the enemy. In case of nuclear warheads, interference will affect less, but forget about the threat of nuclear infection from the use of their anti-missiles. So this is a double-edged sword.
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 21 October 2015 10: 46 New
          0
          Quote: Amurets
          but forget about the threat of nuclear contamination from using their anti-cancer

          ID at an altitude of 30 km is practically safe in all respects. The charge power is 53b6 - 10ct. True, such an interception is imprisoned for a massive blow. The Americans are trying to catch the ICBMs one at a time.
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 21 October 2015 11: 52 New
            +1
            I agree, but not in everything. Many factors have to be taken into account. Remember the instructions for using missiles with nuclear warheads of the S-75 and S-200 systems. They also went to great heights, but there was still a danger of infection. Is that why the Americans are switching to kinetic warhead.
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 21 October 2015 17: 01 New
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              Quote: Amurets
              I agree, but not in everything

              Since then, a lot of water has flowed. The efficiency of charges has been constantly growing. The efficiency factor of the Jerosim bomb was no more than 10%, and people there almost immediately began to rebuild the city. Disease-specific statistics can be easily found. She's not so scary.
              Since the infection does not threaten much, the poison explosion leaves few unfinished nuclides, unlike the reactor .. where everything is in the process of division.
  20. vfqjh
    vfqjh 21 October 2015 07: 25 New
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    Their efforts, but for peaceful purposes ... that would be news!
    1. SAM 5
      SAM 5 21 October 2015 07: 32 New
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      Their efforts, but for peaceful purposes

      Well, my friend, you are bent. Rather, the Earth will turn into a return.
  21. Barakuda
    Barakuda 21 October 2015 07: 35 New
    +2
    The US has NEVER fought an equal adversary. As soon as a chipper, quickly dump. The story however. And missile defense, in all seriousness, looks like a vobla cut. From under the Urals, Poplar spits, in the Mediterranean, Baltic Sea the boat with Aegis will react? I doubt it. I don’t go into geography, for example.
  22. Felix1
    Felix1 21 October 2015 07: 37 New
    -9
    никто не будет бомбить европу калибрами и искандерами ибо у всех депутатов чиновников и прочих руководящих органов там : недвижимость, деньги и дети. ну не будут же они бомбить сами себя.кто-то не согласен? отобрать у себя "честно " нажитое непосильным трудом?
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 21 October 2015 08: 23 New
      +3
      Если начнётся,то выживших не будет ни на той ни на этой стороне океана.Если сработает "Чёрная рука"её ни один чиновник не остановит.Прочитайте хотя в Вики "Система гарантированого ответного удара.Кстати у американцев она тоже есть.Так что если начнётся это шоу,оно будет последним в истории человечества.Не надо надеятся что кто-то уцелеет.
      1. Yerlan
        Yerlan 21 October 2015 08: 53 New
        +4
        Поправлю вас немного. Не "Чёрная рука", а "Мёртвая рука". Или по-нашему: система " Периметр".С Уважением.
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 21 October 2015 11: 55 New
          +1
          Thank you! I apparently have a typo in the book.
    2. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 21 October 2015 08: 42 New
      +4
      For felix1

      But you do not know that neither officials nor deputies decide to strike back. There is a Commander-in-Chief and a Minister of Defense. And the deputies and other officials in this case are just spectators like you and me.
      1. Felix1
        Felix1 21 October 2015 09: 48 New
        +1
        here, you are talking about retaliation, if so then I agree. But we are talking about anti-missile defense.
    3. murking
      murking 21 October 2015 08: 48 New
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      And here heaps of officials, the decision on a nuclear apocalypse, will be made by only one person, relying on their internal convictions. If the Americans knew that there would be no nuclear answer, Russia would have long been torn apart using NATO and conventional weapons.
      1. Felix1
        Felix1 21 October 2015 09: 49 New
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        where does the nuclear apocalypse come in? my comment was developed in the wrong direction.
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 21 October 2015 12: 01 New
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          Unfortunately in that. For a local war, when almost all of Europe is in NATO, will turn into, I do not know the number, a world war.
  23. Taygerus
    Taygerus 21 October 2015 07: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: 31rus
    Уважаемые,при чем тут "Калибр",систему ПРО в Европе начали воплощать уже давно и скорее наши "Калибры"ответ на размещения ПРО,само уничтожение ракеты это лишь часть общей системы,(разведка,обнаружение,сопровождение,классификация,уничтожение),не надо думать что "Искандер"и "Калибр"решат все проблемы,та же морская составляющая ПРО


    The Iskanders and Caliber certainly will not solve all the problems, we also have a comprehensive approach, broader tied to the interaction of different branches of the armed forces in the fight against missile defense, with the same naval component
  24. Riv
    Riv 21 October 2015 07: 57 New
    +1
    A source in the Russian Ministry of Defense reports: in response to the deployment of a missile defense system in Europe, large-caliber artillery units equipped with rubber shells and mines will be deployed in the Kaliningrad Region. These are truly hellish weapons. During the tests, a rubber mine of 100 mm caliber, fired near Chelyabinsk, jumped to Kamchatka and could have ridden off to Japan if it hadn’t been heroically caught by Private Kozlodoev’s footcloth. Serviceman is presented to the government award. There was nothing alive on the mines flight path.
  25. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 October 2015 08: 44 New
    +1
    American missile defense system in Europe will be fully formed by 2018

    Three years later, the West still does not know what will be adopted by us. So don’t say gop ...
    1. Evgenia
      Evgenia 21 October 2015 08: 57 New
      +1
      But who said that our missiles will fly through Europe?
  26. anfil
    anfil 21 October 2015 08: 52 New
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    The Internet demonstrates tests of elements of the US missile defense system. A video of a missile launch from a destroyer is presented by the US Navy press service. A video of the interception of a ballistic missile is not yet published.


    And here we are, and the launch showed the defeat of goals lol
  27. Evgenia
    Evgenia 21 October 2015 08: 54 New
    +2
    Has anyone seen a rocket?
  28. shimus
    shimus 21 October 2015 09: 06 New
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    And why would the US military not intercept its own missile, especially knowing how the military industry works, which is all in private hands, they 100% knew in advance both the speed of the target, its flight path, and MOST IMPORTANT, on a ballistic target, with a very high probability, there was a radio beacon, for the exact guidance of a missile defense !!!
    This is not the first time that one is tested, but in a combat situation a rocket knocks down anything but its target !!!
  29. atamankko
    atamankko 21 October 2015 09: 12 New
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    If you wanted to show your success, show the result objectively.
  30. twincam
    twincam 21 October 2015 09: 14 New
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    karoch diverge poson, vidos dull.
  31. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 21 October 2015 09: 28 New
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    Well, let them entertain themselves with the illusions of security. They intercepted ICBMs (their own), the characteristics of which are known, launch, time and point are known. Oh well.
  32. Aroma77
    Aroma77 21 October 2015 09: 56 New
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    Вот клоуны, знали когда полетит, откуда полетит, куда полетит - поразили! А пуски наших "Калибров", которые прошли 1500 километров даже не заметили, двое суток молчали переваривали.
    1. region58
      region58 21 October 2015 10: 11 New
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      Quote: Aroma77
      А пуски наших "Калибров", которые прошли 1500 километров даже не заметили

      And how do we know whether they noticed or not?
  33. Old26
    Old26 21 October 2015 10: 03 New
    +3
    Quote: Manul
    1. How will they fix and track the missile launched from our territory (well, or Iran from which sanctions are lifted) using which radars?

    As well as on our part. The first stage is SPRN satellites. The second stage - SPRN radars. The question is very voluminous and it will not work to answer in two phrases. Just like we, the Americans have a network of SPRN radars located both in the USA and in other countries: Great Britain, Denmark (Greenland), Alaska, the Aleutian Islands, Taiwan, and now it seems such a station is bought by someone in the Persian Gulf (like the Emirates). Look for materials on the US missile defense and missile defense network, there will give a lot of links to radars and their locations and types.

    Quote: Manul
    2. Surprised that the destroyers are part of the missile defense. I thought missile defense is a network of ground-based missile defense systems. Are ships on an ongoing basis in the form of combat duty supposed to barrage in a certain area? That is, a submarine in which case you don’t have to bother with the search?

    Но ведь ПРО ПРО рознь. В данном случае это ПРО театра военных действий, предназначено для перехвата ракет малой и средней дальности. Развертывание базы ПРО в Румынии было анонсировано еще лет 10 назад. Основная цель - ракеты Ирана. Система ЕвроПРО состоит из нескольких сегментов. Это ракеты-перехватчики "Стандарт" SM-3 в Румынии и после 2020 года в Польше, ракеты-перехватчики ТХААД в Турции ЕМНИП, это корабли ВМС США с тем же "Стандартом", французский сегмент - "Экзогард" и "Экзогард-М". Это корабли Франции, Италии и Англии (в Средиземном и Северных морях). В перспективе - корабли США на Балтике. Причем база ПРО в Польше с точки зрения специалистов, в т.ч. и американских расположена не оптимально. Не исключено, что она вообще там не появится. Так как против МБР России она бессильна, а против тех же Иранских ракет расположена крайне неоптимально.

    Quote: Fonmeg
    Well, let them entertain themselves with the illusions of security. They intercepted ICBMs (their own), the characteristics of which are known, launch, time and point are known. Oh well.

    Тешить иллюзиями и нам себя не стоит. Американцы работают, работают уже несколько лет и год от года система становится более отработанной. А насчет перехвата американцами собственной ракеты... Вы что же, считаете, что когда наши осуществляют перехваты целей, то это американские ракеты?? Нет, тоже свои и всем прекрасно известно откуда и когда она будет идти. Время и направления пуска - "секрет Полишенеля"

    Quote: atamankko
    Wanted to show your success, show the result objectively

    us? Are they full of frietina? Or do we give others information about the intercepts of our missile defense system? For the enemy to take action? Oh well
  34. Boris.Voi
    Boris.Voi 21 October 2015 12: 35 New
    0
    They needed to launch 26 missiles (according to the number of fired by us) and intercept all of them (not to mention surprise), then it would still be worth something, and so ....
  35. IAlex
    IAlex 21 October 2015 12: 48 New
    0
    I doubt that after the timely launch of the Caliber, the EU will want to try to fill up the bear, even after showing the American missile defense and security promises in response to the invasion of the Russian Federation ...
  36. mamont5
    mamont5 21 October 2015 16: 29 New
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    Quote: figvam
    A video of the interception of a ballistic missile is not yet published.

    So I don’t know whether she intercepted the rocket or not.

    Of course. After all, if the USA had fiasco here too, then at least drown. Self-liquidator could well have stood on the target rocket.
  37. Old26
    Old26 22 October 2015 09: 15 New
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    Quote: jarome
    I summarize the general direction of comments: Yes, we will throw their missile defense caps on! It is relaxing because we are irresistible and invulnerable.
    There are dozens of air defense experts here. They said that the Caliber is flying low and can’t be brought down to 100 meters, but what about the Patriot? It seems like an interceptor and mines. height allow to get the Caliber upon detection. Just interested. We say that Tamagavk is a shit for us to bring down a question.

    Ну а как иначе? Ведь все "зеркально". Когда речь идет о том, что по нам могут применить 5-7 тысяч "томагавков" что мы говорим? Фиг вам? Мы что, не засечем наличие носителей и пуск "топоров"? они будут идти до цели 2,5-3 часа. Да мы их сто раз собъем. У нас же существует ПВО с (далее идет перечисление типов ЗРК)
    Тут же с точностью до наоборот. И "Калибры" обнулили ПРО которое вообще не предназначено для перехвата аэродинамических целей. Тут мы "на раз" выносим ПРО штатов в Европе, пустив за 2 часа до часа "Ч" по ним "Калибры". Тут "Калибры" оказываются несбиваемыми и невидимыми, поскольку ведь пуск из Каспий ведь они не засекли. Причем все эти выводы делаются на основе воплей СМИ, в первую очередь их, но наши тоже вносят свою лепту, публикуя "Ура-патриотические" комментарии, рассчитанные на уровень домохозяек. Когда мы совершаем "пуск противоракеты" по цели, причем пуск реальный, а цели то нет (это актуально сейчас, после развала СССР), то есть когда противоракета выходит в некий заданный участок, и "виртуально" поражает не существующую цель, которая оказывается в зоне поражения ее ГЧ - это 100% успех ПРО... Когда наши "заклятые друзья" стреляют по собственной ракете - так это же обычный фейк, они знали где она появится, знали курс и высоту... При этом такой пуск говорит о никчемности американской ПРО.

    And all in this version. Well, I want people to raise their self-awareness, self-conceit, to show that we will tear all ...
    Вот говорят, что не засекли Натовцы пуск "Калибров". Может сам пуск и не был засечен, но полет... С чего взяли, что не засекли? Из-за того, что ничего об этом не пишут. Так умные люди и не будут писать. Пусть мы думаем. что не засекли. так иногда и хочется спросить. Вот до удара "Калибрами" там проводили налеты на базы ИГИЛ наши самолеты. Как считает народ, НАТО отслеживает их полеты? АВАКСы висят в воздухе? Почему думают, что те же АВАКСы не засекли КАЛИБРЫ? Ответа нет и не будет, ибо не выгодно так думать, понижает самооценку.
    Многочисленные высказывания о том, что "Пэтриот" не смог бы даже перехватить КАЛИБР. Причем берется ТТХ как минимум модификации РАС-1 или РАС-2, где минимальная высота поражения 60 метров (видимо о других модификация, адаптированных на поражения именно крылатых ракет пищущие и не слышали). Далее следует запись, что Пэтриот не смог бы поразить КАЛИБР, так как у него минимум 60, а КАЛИБР идет аж на 15 метрах. Идет или непонимания того, что человек пишет, или обычное передергивание, т.к. высота в 15 метров - высота полета противокорабельной над морем, а КАЛИБР шел на высотах в 100-150 метров, а на некоторых участках поднимался на высоту свыше километра.
    Ну и еще один "повод радоваться". Оказывается мы теперь "вымели" американский флот из океанов и способны поражать корабли на расстоянии в 1500-2000 км (правда почему то при этом берется КР для поражения land stationary goals. Well, etc. etc. At the same time, the adversary will not work, the air defense will not, the aircraft will not, and we will multiply by zero while their missile defense