Almaz is developing a new hovercraft

Almaz Central Metallurgical Bureau announced the development of an advance project of a new generation of hovercraft, reports RIA News a message from the head of the marketing department of the enterprise, Dmitry Tsygankov.


Almaz is developing a new hovercraft
Ship project 12322 "Bison"

“We have prepared an initiative study of a hovercraft of a new generation based on the Zubr. If the Zubr, which was built earlier, is a Soviet project, then we are talking about a fundamentally new project. The main power plant will be Russian-made, it is planned to install a new weapon system. The overall look of the project will be more modern, ”said Tsygankov.

“If the Defense Ministry is interested, the TsMKB is ready to propose a project for construction,” he added.

Thanks to their design features, air cushion ships can move both on water and on land. Neither swamps, moats, nor minefields interfere with them. For landing, they can use up to 70% of the total coastline of all seas and oceans.

Help Agency: “The Bison Project 12322 Small Hovercraft is the largest hovercraft in the world. The Bison is capable of transporting three main tank weighing up to 150 tons or 10 armored personnel carriers and 140 landing personnel. ”
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  1. IAlex 20 October 2015 18: 35 New
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    An advance project? Could not publish this news, because the grandmother for two said about the fate of the project ...
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      1. MIKHAN 20 October 2015 18: 43 New
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        I hope with missiles? And not only "Caliber" ....
        Secretive of course ..!
        In general, a powerful project and promising ... Well, God forbid!
        1. Basarev 20 October 2015 18: 56 New
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          And they could continue to build the Bison, if Khlamin would not push these glorious boats to China ... And with them all the technologies, calling their own development the name of Bison.
          1. Darkmor 21 October 2015 02: 22 New
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            Hm. And suppose, theoretically, if you push “calibers” onto it, will they be considered ground-based missiles if the ship is on the ground?
            1. Couch General 21 October 2015 10: 27 New
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              It will be the same "Bison", but with Russian equipment and a name. But is it bad?
        2. ava09 20 October 2015 19: 22 New
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          Quote: MIKHAN
          If the Zubr built earlier is a Soviet project, then this is a fundamentally new project. The main power plant will be Russian-made, it is planned to install a new weapons system.


          It is clearly said a fundamentally new project - it used to be SOVIET, and now RUSSIAN. Previously, the armament was AK 630, and now, most likely Duet. Well, and specifically, at your request, Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles. The question is whether the landing craft of the near sea zone need rockets and whether it will be worked with them to swim .-)))
          1. Russ_Dry 21 October 2015 01: 01 New
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            the ship may be new, and the equipment on it is modern. but we like to use loud words that do not quite fit without thinking about the meaning of the word.

            for example, with a significant increase in something (for example, twice), they can say that this something has increased by an order of magnitude (while an order of magnitude is ten times more).

            So the question itself: what is in the project fundamentally new? What new principles are used in the ship's project?
            Maybe the principle of movement has changed? Now not on an air cushion but on a gravitational one?
            Maybe the weapon works according to some other principles? Now it is not powder but say energy?

            In general, the ship is new, but not so much as to talk about a fundamentally new.
            Which does not negate the need and usefulness of such ships.


            Once again: I’m not discussing a ship, but his description.
            1. gridasov 21 October 2015 10: 49 New
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              The conversation is not about new physical principles. If they call it that. The conversation is about such an arrangement of distribution processes in the engine that it can significantly increase the total energy efficiency of propulsion systems without a proportional increase in fuel consumption. Moreover, many say that there are no engines in Russia. So why not use such new and completely justified principles. This is not a fantasy in kindergarten. These are well-thought-out and technologically resolved issues. Especially very quickly solved, because they do not change the entire technological process of their production.
              1. Russ_Dry 21 October 2015 15: 12 New
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                then, I think it would be more correct to say completely new rather than brand new
                1. gridasov 21 October 2015 15: 17 New
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                  Exactly! New because of new drawings and new sites. If there is one. But in no case on new technologies and the best performance characteristics.
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      2. Dart2027 20 October 2015 18: 54 New
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        It’s impossible to shove caliber on it, but in general the good news. Whatever you say, but over time, any technique becomes obsolete.
      3. lelikas 20 October 2015 20: 34 New
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        For landing, they can use up to 70% of the total length of all seas and oceans.
        What is not a day - then a new pearl - yesterday the destroyers armed with Aegis, today they land troops 70% of the length of the ocean ..... where does the world go? laughing
    2. War and Peace 20 October 2015 18: 47 New
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      But why Russia ships for landing? will we take ukrov in Odessa?
      1. GRAY 20 October 2015 19: 01 New
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        Quote: war and peace
        But why Russia ships for landing? will we take ukrov in Odessa?

        More recently, the same thing was thought about weapons transports (at the same time selling them to just anyone, including the Americans) and here it’s on you - we redeem conditionally old pelvis from the Turks.
        In fact, everything is needed.
        And more :-)
        1. War and Peace 21 October 2015 13: 56 New
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          Quote: GRAY
          Quote: war and peace
          But why Russia ships for landing? will we take ukrov in Odessa?

          More recently, the same thing was thought about weapons transports (at the same time selling them to just anyone, including the Americans) and here it’s on you - we redeem conditionally old pelvis from the Turks.
          In fact, everything is needed.
          And more :-)


          we don’t buy military, simple bulk carriers, but bulk carriers themselves could build ...
      2. mav1971 20 October 2015 19: 15 New
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        Quote: war and peace
        But why Russia ships for landing? will we take ukrov in Odessa?


        Well, for example, in the case of a sudden "something" to make the transfer of troops to the Kuril Islands ...
        1. gispanec 20 October 2015 19: 24 New
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          Quote: mav1971
          Well, for example, in the case of a sudden "something" to make the transfer of troops to the Kuril Islands ...

          followed by a hokaido throw
          1. 34 region 20 October 2015 21: 25 New
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            Yeah! Hokkaido! Our population is almost the same with Japan. Only the area of ​​the territory is different.
            1. gispanec 21 October 2015 07: 46 New
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              Quote: 34 region
              Yeah! Hokkaido! Our population is almost the same with Japan. Only the area of ​​the territory is different.

              do you know how to read? .. if not then why write the comments? .. troll? .... I repeat again -
              Quote: mav1971
              in case of sudden "something" make the transfer of troops to the Kuril Islands ...
              ... the specialist highlighted the word of something ... do you understand its meaning? ... no ... then I explain .... something this is the beginning of the military confrontation with Japan ..... now we go further ... my answer to something is
              Quote: gispanec
              followed by a hokaido throw

              I’ll explain the same to you here .... when something begins and the enemy attacks the Kuril Islands .... our army first frees the Kuril Islands, and then forces Tokyo to peace .... moreover, Mistral and air-cushion landing ships would be very come in handy ..... alles educational program is over ... sit down 2!
      3. 34 region 20 October 2015 21: 23 New
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        Zachem ukrov daragoy! We’ll put two hundred in Cuba and Washington to take the budem daraga!
    3. venaya 20 October 2015 19: 05 New
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      Quote: IAlex
      ... the grandmother for two said about the fate of the project ...

      It is important to get started. Opportunities for improving projects in the dark. While the technological base is being pulled up, it is still unknown whether this project will be missed into a series or something much more perfect .... We better not know about it yet.
      1. IAlex 20 October 2015 19: 32 New
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        An advance project is not a realizable development project at all. Here they write a bunch of all sorts of smart rubbish without even understanding what an "advance project" is and without knowing the word. And 99% of the population of VO even look at Yandex for scrap to find out what it is to understand that all Wishlist begin with an advance project, but a microscopic fraction of all Wishlist comes to the development of CDs ...
    4. REXSTORZ 20 October 2015 19: 15 New
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      Here is an example)
      1. REXSTORZ 20 October 2015 19: 17 New
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        and yet)) an example of new projects on an air cushion)
        1. REXSTORZ 20 October 2015 19: 22 New
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          And here is Zubrik himself))
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          2. REXSTORZ 20 October 2015 19: 32 New
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            one of the bison))
            1. Baloo 20 October 2015 20: 48 New
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              Having the production of bison, why do we need minerals? And is this ship able to protect itself from enemy missiles, for example, if an anti-ship missile falls along a ballistic trajectory, or an air bomb?
              In any case, as old Napoleon said: a nation that does not feed its army will feed a stranger. hi
  2. Alex_Rarog 20 October 2015 18: 36 New
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    Beauties, it’s a pity we have very few of them! I hope the MO order a series, because the Arctic is a great option!
    1. Vladimir 1964 20 October 2015 19: 26 New
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      Quote: Alex_Rarog
      Beauties, it’s a pity we have very few of them! I hope the MO order a series, because the Arctic is a great option!

      It is a pity to disappoint you, Dear Alexander, but it is not intended for operation in the Arctic. Everything according to the technical design, no gag.
      Something like this, Dear. hi
    2. Maxom75 20 October 2015 19: 55 New
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      They will gobble up any defense budget. Such a miracle burns fuel for 1 nautical mile as a good cruiser, or even more. Unfortunately, in terms of the cost of operation - the effectiveness for landing operations, hovercraft do not justify themselves. Gliders are more effective here (they take more on board).
      1. Koshak 20 October 2015 20: 03 New
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        Quote: Maxom75
        They will gobble up any defense budget. Such a miracle burns fuel for 1 nautical mile as a good cruiser, or even more. Unfortunately, in terms of the cost of operation - the effectiveness for landing operations, hovercraft do not justify themselves. Gliders are more effective here (they take more on board).

        With such reasoning and approaches then it is better on galleys.
        1. Maxom75 20 October 2015 21: 05 New
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          We are not the United States to spend 10 billion on the construction of the ship, which is then called training. It is necessary to balance your budget and needs. That's why it would not hurt us, so large expeditionary vessels, to transport 200-300 units of armored vehicles at a time. We do not have such, but they may be needed for the transfer of military equipment. At least one in each of the fleets. the Americans made them out of bulk carriers.
          1. Tuzik 20 October 2015 21: 30 New
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            our policy is different, we do not expedite troops to other regions to get oil, but for a quick (!) response, such ships are needed (seizing a bridgehead), and transporting a large amount of iron is a dry cargo ship.
      2. Baloo 20 October 2015 20: 49 New
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        The glider on the move will not fit on the shore and will not trample further along the bushes and light forests. hi
        1. Maxom75 20 October 2015 21: 16 New
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          And how far will the BISON go if the coast is equipped with anti-ship missiles? How many BISONS are needed to compensate for the losses, and the difference in the price of the glider and BISON? The USSR counted and did not begin to develop the program, because it became clear that it was beautiful, cool and very EXPENSIVE!
          1. Raven1972 20 October 2015 23: 12 New
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            Quote: Maxom75
            And how far will the BISON go if the coast is equipped with anti-ship missiles?

            And what, the Bison will single-handedly carry out a landing operation ??? Why all the time consider the same Bison or a cruiser or any other type of weaponry as a kind of spherical horse in a vacuum ??? Ask at least the number and type of other ships allocated to ensure the landing operation and what their tasks are, and then broadcast ... The Bison is an integral part of a large system called the Fleet, and not a separately functioning unit ...
      3. 34 region 20 October 2015 21: 34 New
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        Well, war is generally a battle of economies.
      4. goose 21 October 2015 11: 14 New
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        Gliders are not able to work even with little excitement. And they depend on the state of the coast. Pillows have no such restrictions.
        1. gridasov 21 October 2015 11: 24 New
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          Obviously, it’s always worth talking about the transitional stages of such phenomena as the object just floats, or floats with a low water line, floats or already “flies” on hydrofoils. Or flies on the effect of ekranoplan. And the same processes from an air cushion also have a cumulative and positive role and also a negative one. Therefore, the navigation technology of new modern watercraft should be based on the possibility of an easy transition from one type of support navigation to another. And this is possible on our propulsion and propulsion systems. Moreover, we can talk about this already as a technology of movement in the corresponding algorithms. Or isn’t it?
  3. Arktidianets 20 October 2015 18: 37 New
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    So the old Soviet kulman lift, so to speak the old in a new way
    1. X Y Z 20 October 2015 18: 45 New
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      Only here you cannot raise old, well-deserved shots. These are those who were ready to work for 12 hours and run high-pressure on Sundays to work. And while creating masterpieces.
      1. nicolay338 21 October 2015 09: 00 New
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        those who were ready to work 12 hours and run on high Sundays to work.

        Yes there are such. Not many, not all, but there are, were and will be. Only here will our corrupt system appreciate their work ... crying
  4. Shadowcat 20 October 2015 18: 41 New
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    hello idea. Considering that part of the spare parts and components throughout the USSR was scattered in the Bison, and there weren’t any left in Russia ... So there is a need. Well, the fact that some people have already leaked the technology is definitely not necessary.
    1. Vladimirets 20 October 2015 18: 48 New
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      Quote: ShadowCat
      Considering that part of spare parts and components throughout the USSR was scattered in the Bison, and did not remain in Russia

      However loud statements "about a fundamentally new project"are not entirely correct. It is just supposed to assemble a ship at Russian facilities with the installation of existing weapons, what is the principle of the project? request
      1. Rader 20 October 2015 20: 42 New
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        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: ShadowCat
        Considering that part of spare parts and components throughout the USSR was scattered in the Bison, and did not remain in Russia

        However loud statements "about a fundamentally new project"are not entirely correct. It’s just supposed to assemble a ship at Russian facilities with the installation of existing weapons, what is the principle project? request

        Principle all in the name laughing To show that it’s not in vain that they eat their bread, there, there are all sorts of “fundamentally new” things ... smile But seriously, then behind big words, the essence is often lost. No, it’s certainly good that a new air-cushioned MDK will be created, although it will be a revised Bison ... But now the flow of information begins to openly enrage (with no analogs in the world and conceptual ones ...). In Ukraine, we switched from the creation of equipment and weapons to the creation of non-existent automatic weapons in the world based on AK and the “latest” armored personnel carriers from rusty 80s
      2. 34 region 20 October 2015 21: 38 New
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        Principality probably in the territory. Only in his garden. No neighbors (and what they are we all know).
  5. Nikoha.2010 20 October 2015 18: 42 New
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    It is planned to install a new weapons system.

    The armament of the project 12322 "Bison":
    140 mm rocket launcher - MS-227 "Fire" - 2;
    Igla anti-aircraft missile system - 4;
    Artillery complex AK-630M - 2.
    What else can add?
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    2. gjv
      gjv 20 October 2015 18: 46 New
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      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      What else can add?

      Well, what about? Of course, Caliber.
      1. Nikoha.2010 20 October 2015 19: 42 New
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        Quote: gjv
        Well, what about? Of course, Caliber.

        Yes, here, how and where to “cram” the “Caliber”? After all, they are from 6 to 8 meters in length. requestAnd the ships of the wrong class ... I think that the artillery systems will be updated. IMHO!
        1. Bayonet 21 October 2015 06: 54 New
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          Quote: Nikoha.2010
          Yes, here, how and where to “cram” the “Caliber”?

          There is such a word - sarcasm smile
      2. Baloo 20 October 2015 20: 51 New
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        Why amphibious assault ship caliber? His task, as I understand it, is to support the landing to a depth of 20-30 km. Or am I wrong? Although ... I am not a sailor and generally a civilian, a representative of a purely humane profession.
        1. Raven1972 20 October 2015 23: 23 New
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          Quote: Balu
          Why amphibious assault ship caliber? His task, as I understand it, is to support the landing to a depth of 20-30 km. Or am I wrong?

          Well, why are you wrong? Everything else is the task of the support ships, + they’ll clean the landing site in full beforehand .... hi
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        Quote: gjv
        Well, what about? Of course, Caliber.

        And more EW !!!
  6. Mountain shooter 20 October 2015 18: 43 New
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    This is the right ship. A sudden landing at any point on the coast, and even with heavy weapons, and cheaper than in helicopters. It is clear that the most effective thing is against the “Papuans,” with the appropriate cover for the coast, they’ll still sink on the way.
    1. Basarev 20 October 2015 19: 19 New
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      The eaglet, they say, was even more effective in this matter ... Current under the ban large ekranoplanes, we build all the walking trifle for the rich on imported engines.
    2. Maxom75 20 October 2015 19: 56 New
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      not so sudden, it can be seen well in the radar range.
    3. 34 region 20 October 2015 21: 46 New
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      PAPUasy, MOMUasy. But do military consultants eat at VO? As in the Union, on the set of films about the war. Bondarchuk and Mikhalkov obviously would not have a ride. Well, there are still specialists on a voluntary basis. But not all the experts in military matters, damn it!
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        Quote: 34 region
        As in the Union, on the set of films about the war. Bondarchuk and Mikhalkov obviously would not have a ride.

        In Soviet films about the war, there were also enough mistakes - the Urals, ZiL-157 are moving around with all their might, the enemy Yak-18, T-34-85 at the beginning of the war and the plywood Tigers are being beaten. wink
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It is clear that the most effective - against the "Papuans"

      To the "Papuans" this thing just does not reach smile It is not intended for long trips!
    5. Bayonet 21 October 2015 12: 20 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      A sudden landing anywhere in the coast,

      So in any? If the coast is gentle, but with a sandy beach, then yes. And if rocky, steep? But there are a lot of such people. hi
  7. Nymp 20 October 2015 18: 46 New
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    All right, we restore the former glory of our Armed Forces, and if during the years of the collapse of our country, no one has created analogues, these are their problems.
  8. Alexander 3 20 October 2015 18: 49 New
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    It probably should have been built yesterday in my opinion.
  9. Masya masya 20 October 2015 18: 49 New
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    Do not stand still and it pleases!
  10. remy 20 October 2015 18: 50 New
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    most likely "skegogov" type
    catamaran base as SVP Bora / Samum
    with bottom soft pallets for moving on land
    and soft bounding screens in the stern and fore between the keels
    in short, the basis of the project 10210 "Bison"
    1. remy 20 October 2015 20: 49 New
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      Here, apparently, another more urgent option
  11. ermolai 20 October 2015 18: 53 New
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    yes, we need to update the park, and indeed we need big and small ones for the Arctic, with “poplars” and “Iskander” and “Caliber” I think tanks are not really needed in the Arctic, such a “Bison” itself will be like a tank battalion. And that the container variant was delivered, the Caliber was disguised as an ice hummock, and the hi was given at the right time. in the smut it will be at the mattress with nuggle sax
    1. Koshak 20 October 2015 20: 13 New
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      Quote: ermolai
      yes, we need to update the park, and really for the Arctic we need big and small, with "poplars" ...

      Why are you all obsessed with poplars? That "poplar" to Cuba, then the "poplar" to the Crimea. Nah are they on the landing ship? Turn on your brains. "Poplar" and from Siberia anyone and anywhere get. Strategists, damn it.
      1. pv1005 20 October 2015 20: 54 New
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        Yes, do not be nervous so respected. hi These are couch troops, and they always know everything and everything that they say the ultimate truth. Well, at least they think about themselves loved ones. fool
  12. Old26 20 October 2015 18: 55 New
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    Quote: MIKHAN
    I hope with missiles? And not only "Caliber" .... Secretive of course ..!

    Do you always see rockets? Especially Caliber. Read phrase

    “We have prepared an initiative study of a new generation hovercraft on the basis of the Bison. If the Zubr built earlier is a Soviet project, then this is a fundamentally new project. The main power plant will be Russian-made, it is planned to install a new weapons system. The overall look of the project will be more modern. ”


    Thanks to the design features, hovercraft can move both on water and on the ground. For them, neither swamps, nor ditches, nor minefields are an obstacle. For landing, they can use up to 70% of the total length of all seas and oceans.


    Agency reference: Project 12322 Small Bison Hovercraft is the largest hovercraft in the world. "Bison" is capable of transporting three main tanks weighing up to 150 tons or 10 armored personnel carriers and 140 troops. "


    Damn, what kind of epidemic? As something, they immediately try to insert “Caliber” out of place and out of place. Soon, probably on civilian planes and spaceships, they will try to put Caliber in and out of place.
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      Quote: Old26
      As something, they immediately try to insert “Caliber” out of place and out of place

      Give "Khibiny" !!!!!! fellow
  13. slaw14 20 October 2015 19: 09 New
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    Well, finally resumed production. “Our Crimea” - sounds with renewed vigor, it is there that all the specialists of this shipbuilding are registered.
  14. 31rus 20 October 2015 19: 27 New
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    Yes, where does the "Bison" mean, you read the article, a new project, new weapons, Russian engines, the assault landing, not the missile, is written further in Russian, it’s very bad that we are starting to develop, on an initiative basis, that the Navy does not know what they need ? My opinion such ships are simply necessary and vary from small tonnage to large transport assault
  15. AIR-ZNAK 20 October 2015 19: 35 New
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    For the transfer of mobile groups to protect the islands and their own coast from saboteurs and terrorists in the absence of weather for aviation, a very real vessel
  16. chunga-changa 20 October 2015 19: 40 New
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    What the journalist was told - "... a new generation hovercraft based on the Bison ..."
    What the journalist heard - "... we are talking about a fundamentally new project."
    As they say - watch your hands. In general, the journalists began to fade, stopped writing - "having no world analogues."
  17. reklats34 20 October 2015 19: 52 New
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    AND WHY IT IS IN THE BLACK SEA TO NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT REFUELING ONLY ONE END MAY BE EXTENDED IF THE ENGINES DON'T BURN AT OUR BDK PENSIONERS ARE NEVER REPLACED AND WE ARE NOT FIRST TIME FIRST TIME FIRST TIME.
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    Quote: ermolai
    yes, we need to update the park, and indeed we need big and small ones for the Arctic, with “poplars” and “Iskander” and “Caliber” I think tanks are not really needed in the Arctic, such a “Bison” itself will be like a tank battalion. And that the container variant was delivered, the Caliber was disguised as an ice hummock, and the hi was given at the right time. in the smut it will be at the mattress with nuggle sax

    how can it be without the Iskander, Topol and Caliber ???

    You know, there is an old joke.
    Passengers of a passenger airliner are preparing for take-off. Broadcast Commander:
    "Ladies and gentlemen. Please fasten your seat belts before take-off. Briefly about our ship.
    - On the first deck- luggage compartment
    - On the second deck - tennis court, basketball court and volleyball court
    - On the third deck - football fields
    - On the fourth deck - baths: Russian, Turkish, Finnish, Japanese
    - On the fifth deck - pools
    - On the sixth deck - smoking salons
    - On the seventh deck - sleeping compartments
    - on the eighth deck - restaurants
    - On the ninth deck - economy class seats
    - On the tenth deck - first class places
    - On the eleventh deck - bars
    - On the twelfth deck viewing platforms

    And now, dear passengers, please fasten your seat belts and we will try to lift it fuck ... more to the air....

    Doesn’t resemble anything ??? As someone offers something, they immediately begin to poke everything there. Either "Caliber" on the barge, then "Caliber", "Poplar", "Iskander" on the landing ships. Damn, this does not remind you of the above, to stick everything in one place? The landing ship should be a landing, not a missile or something. There will be no fish and no meat. What is your priority task? It’s not known for whom to bring and drop off an unscathed assault force or to shoot back. By the way? Did you know that the deployment of intercontinental missiles on boats other than submarines is prohibited ???

    a container with CALIBERS disguised as hummocks - a masterpiece. Who are you going to shoot at such distances, dear, at polar bears?
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      There is no superfluous support fire during a landing. That's just the range here is excessive. But the melee fire shaft is the most
  19. roskot 20 October 2015 20: 28 New
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    Need hovercraft? Need. Ready to build? Ready. So what else is needed.
    Build and more.
  20. IAlex 20 October 2015 20: 30 New
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    For people who have taken away the brain from the article, I translate the article from the language of money launderers of the official dough from cheers-patriotic to a normal language understandable to the average person ...


    Almaz is developing a business plan for the development of a new hovercraft project


    TsMKB Almaz announced the development of a business plan (which will describe the general characteristics, duration and cost of work) of a new generation hovercraft, RIA Novosti reports a message from the head of the marketing department of the enterprise Dmitry Tsygankov.

    Ship of the project 12322 "Bison"

    “We are developing a business plan at our own expense, which will determine the general characteristics, duration and cost of developing a project for a hovercraft based on the Zubr base. If the Zubr built earlier was a Soviet project, then we are talking about the possibility of creating a modernized project already by the Russian Federation. In accordance with the business plan, it is assumed that the main power plant will be Russian-made, as well as the installation of a new weapons system, unlike the previous Zubr project, as well as the overall appearance of the future project will be more modern than the current Zubr project » - said Tsygankov.

    “If the business plan is proposed and interesting to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and the Russian Ministry of Defense, in turn, finds the necessary funds for the development of the project, the CMKB is ready to develop TK and create a project for a new hovercraft,” he added.

    Thanks to the design features, hovercraft can move both on water and on the ground. For them, neither swamps, nor ditches, nor minefields are an obstacle. For landing, they can use up to 70% of the total length of all seas and oceans.

    Agency reference: Project 12322 Small Bison Hovercraft is the largest hovercraft in the world. "Bison" is capable of transporting three main tanks weighing up to 150 tons or 10 armored personnel carriers and 140 troops. "






    1. lopvlad 21 October 2015 16: 45 New
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      can use up to 70% of the total length of all seas and oceans.


      it will be more correct here can use up to 70% of the total coastline of all seas and oceans.
  21. Izotovp 20 October 2015 20: 47 New
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    In fact, such ships are a marine armored personnel carrier: clean the landing zone, land, support during the landing. All !!! So it should have (in my opinion): a near-air defense system, electronic warfare for combating coastal radars and an artillery missile for a landing zone. Everything else, more serious, distant and heavy, will be handled by the "older brothers" from the squadron.
    Correct, I will be glad))).
  22. Old26 20 October 2015 21: 10 New
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    So it should have (in my opinion): a near-air defense system, electronic warfare for combating coastal radars and an artillery missile for a landing zone.

    - SAM? there is. EIGHT MANPADS "Igla"
    - EW - what for it is needed on a high-speed landing vehicle. To jam the radar to show that he is there? Something recently, “Gauges” and EW has become unchanged attributes of everything that is possible. Everywhere they try to put EW and CALIBERS
    - artillery and missile - yes there is. 2 AK-630, and 2 x 22 A-22 fire launchers with a supply of 132 shells. HERE and all the weapons of the Bison. On the new, maybe that will change, but hardly. Armament is placed optimally and it makes no sense to rebuild something
    1. Izotovp 20 October 2015 22: 22 New
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      I mean the radar of coastal art. and rocket batteries, no more.
      And MANPADS by modern standards is not enough? Perhaps more appropriate Shell-M?
      1. Raven1972 20 October 2015 23: 42 New
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        I mean the radar of coastal art. and rocket batteries, no more.

        This is the task of the support ships. hi
        1. Izotovp 20 October 2015 23: 47 New
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          Also an option, I do not argue !! But you need to cover harder from the sky.
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    DPN 20 October 2015 21: 35 New
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    Russia is a sea power, so it needs all kinds of ships, it’s just that the oligarchs must be appointed chiefs, it’s necessary to share it with the Army and the people.
  24. Oprychnik 20 October 2015 21: 48 New
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    "They can use up to 70% of the total length of all seas and oceans for landing."

    Explain, please, and this is how they will use that very length.)))
    Maybe better 30% wider than 70% longer ????)))
    1. Izotovp 20 October 2015 22: 07 New
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      This means the length of the coastline, but this incorrectness in the expression of thought is also often depressing (((
  25. pilot bin-bom 20 October 2015 22: 40 New
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    And when will EKIP technologies revive? For the northern territories - the very thing that is needed.
  26. gridasov 20 October 2015 22: 44 New
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    Ancient Eastern wisdom says that "you need to enter the war when you are confident in your victory." A new and more effective technique is the key to victory. What kind of effective technique can we talk about when an advance project claims technology on all the old principles of organizing the processes of movement. One propulsion and at the same time propulsion system can organize all the distribution vectors of the movement of air flow. Even if these technical solutions are not implemented, then what can we talk about in solving the key energy processes to ensure the movement of such ships.
  27. Anchonsha 20 October 2015 23: 08 New
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    Yes, actually this type of ship type "Bison" is needed in the Far East, in the North with good weapons
    1. Bayonet 21 October 2015 07: 12 New
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      Quote: Anchonsha
      Yes, actually this type of ship type "Bison" is needed in the Far East, in the North

      And against whom will they act in the North - attack the testing ground on Novaya Zemlya or seize the North Pole? smile
  28. lopvlad 21 October 2015 00: 24 New
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    And could the Bison continue to build


    no, they could not. Engines for the Bison were made in Ukraine in Nikolaev (GP NPKG Zorya - Mashproekt)

    In fact, now there is no engine in Russia for a ship, and manufacturing a ship in the old guise is not profitable.
    1. gridasov 21 October 2015 11: 11 New
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      People who make decisions lack the competence to establish a service that would work out or at least monitor any ideas in the field of creating a new type of engine. But it is obvious that there is no such task - the creation of new engines. In this case, we, non-factory developers, would not spend decades announcing our work. And now it’s clear that everyone is going to search for such solutions that we have defined, we can already say a decade ago. Another thing is that we are constantly moving forward and the depth of research is more sufficient, but already divorced from reality. We have to underestimate the level of the proposed ideas and their solutions. By the way, on the issue of the same "calibers". They use the same old principles of engine operation. And already this is enough to have priority on modern battlefields. With “our propulsion systems”, so far only ideas that are fundamentally fundamental and that’s enough to remain ideas so far, Russia will gain what everyone is striving for.
  29. Rock616 21 October 2015 01: 43 New
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    I still hope that the Bison or their further development will have the right to life, and will take their rightful place in the RF Armed Forces.
  30. Svetlana 21 October 2015 06: 38 New
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    Due to temporary difficulties with the gas turbine units of the Motor-SICH plant, it is possible that the new Bison will be equipped with a nuclear power plant. Then its range will be unlimited.
    1. Bayonet 21 October 2015 10: 06 New
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      perhaps the new Bison will be equipped with a nuclear power plant. Then its range will be unlimited.

      And a photon engine! smile Do you have any idea how much a nuclear power plant will weigh commensurate with a gas turbine engine? In the best case scenario, God forbid, raise yourself on an "air cushion"!
      1. Svetlana 21 October 2015 16: 17 New
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        The nuclear power plan is similar to the Mars reactor, but a little more powerful.
        A fast neutron nuclear reactor is used.
        The heat removal from the core of the nuclear reactor is performed by a liquid coolant - flyb in the first circuit, followed by heat removal in the liquid-helium heat exchanger with helium compressed to 150 atm in the second circuit. A helium turbine is used to spin the generator.
        Thermal power of an onboard nuclear reactor of at least 90 MW.
        The electrical power of an onboard nuclear power plant with an efficiency of 33% is 30 MW.
        The mass of a nuclear reactor with helium heat exchangers - liquid salt (flyb), recuperator, radiation protection is 200 tons.
        The total mass of closed-circuit turboelectric generators, air turbocompressors, recuperative valve electric motors for driving air cushion electric fans, horizontal thrust electric fans is 150 tons.
        The mass of the structure of the SVP frame is 150 tons.
        Total total weight of the design of the SVP with equipment is 500 tons.
        Schematic diagram of the MARS reactor: 1 - reactor vessel; 2 - active zone; 3 - salt-compressed helium heat exchangers; 4 - displacer; 5 - lifting section; 6 - compensation tank; 7 - reactor cover
        1. Bayonet 21 October 2015 22: 21 New
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          Quote: Svetlana
          A fast neutron nuclear reactor is used.

          And what will happen when a projectile gets into this power plant? It is not surprising, but during the fighting they shoot. smile When they refused to create aircraft with nuclear power plants, they first of all thought about the consequences of the destruction of the reactor. hi
          PS. By the way, in your calculations you forgot to mention the payload - the ship is a landing ship.
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            It all depends on the size, speed, filling of the shell. If the projectile has a mass of 300 kg, a speed of 3,5 km / s, and a filling of 300 Kt, then there will be a luminous mushroom cloud 10 km high. However, the same cloud will occur if the aforementioned shell does not fall into this power plant, but into an aircraft carrier of the Nimitz type. If you increase the displacement of the SVP from 500 to 650 tons, then there will be a place for the landing.
            1. Svetlana 26 October 2015 06: 36 New
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              dialogue of a homing warhead with the archangel Gabriel:
              I found Nimitz!
              -and where is he?
              -vaporated ..
    2. gridasov 21 October 2015 10: 58 New
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      In any case, everyone returns to the same problems. And they, if this is not yet noticeable, are decided only by such developments that we offer. The testing of nuclear installations in any form and on the principles that are used now is completely IMPOSSIBLE. However, the use of radioactive elements in the engine so that these elements increase the potential of various physical processes is completely possible. It’s even necessary!
  31. Old26 21 October 2015 07: 53 New
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    Due to temporary difficulties with the gas turbine units of the Motor-SICH plant, it is possible that the new Bison will be equipped with a nuclear power plant. Then its range will be unlimited.

    and what will this reactor give? Will it work instead of a gas turbine? Having eaten the entire cargo capacity of the ship?
    1. Svetlana 21 October 2015 20: 10 New
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      This reactor will give the SVP unlimited range at a good speed exceeding the speed of nuclear submarines. It will not work instead of a gas turbine, but with a gas (helium) turbine. To cool spent helium, a helium-air fan heat exchanger is installed on the exhaust of a gas turbine. In the case of SVP, air cushion fans and / or horizontal draft fans are used in these heat exchangers. The purpose of the ship of course changes - it becomes not landing, but shock. The load corresponding to the new purpose also changes - instead of tanks, the same Caliber is in horizontal containers with hydraulic drives for shifting to an inclined or vertical position. A large carrying capacity for such a load is not required. The cost will probably be cheaper than a submarine with the same load.
      1. gridasov 21 October 2015 20: 56 New
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        Well, I wonder. It seems like smart people, but you are cunning yourself and the mass of "gaps" in the logic of reasoning. Where does the speed of the nuclear submarines come from? In any case, you must combine or transform thermal energy and let it be transferred to the coolant to transfer interaction with the external environment. In any case, you need to create a driving force for the object. Therefore, of all the calculated options, our mover cannot be better. Firstly, the reactor zone creating the reactive force is inside. No blades outside. There is no cavitation on the blades and you can position the mover in any part of the submarine. I do not argue that to ensure acoustic silence, our technology is hardly better than such "static" nuclear generators. But their total weight can be calculated in hundreds of kg. But not in tons.
        I am surprised by something else. The use of radioactive materials is a whole range of additional safety measures. The use of a well-known substance, to which the Germans gave priority, creates properties that are much more effective in use than radioactivity. It is obvious. Therefore, for air-independent energy generators, the best substance can not be invented. And with our technology, it’s just perfect for it.
      2. Bayonet 22 October 2015 06: 06 New
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        Quote: Svetlana
        This reactor will give SVP unlimited range

        And why did he need an "unlimited range" with its seaworthiness? Before the first storm? smile
        1. Svetlana 22 October 2015 13: 21 New
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          You will recall that there is no dawn in the tundra in winter. Therefore, it really needs electricity, which can be provided by SVP. The coastline in northern Russia allows SVPs to go ashore and delve into the tundra. A tractor on an SVP trailer can even be pulled onto a gentle mountain. There are no storms with high waves in the tundra. But if you have to carry out combat duty in the open ocean, then due to the high speed of the SVP, it will always be able to get ahead of the impending storm in advance.
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    Quote: Izotovp
    I mean the radar of coastal art. and rocket batteries, no more.
    And MANPADS by modern standards is not enough? Perhaps more appropriate Shell-M?

    Probably it makes sense instead of MANPADS "Igla" and AK-630 to put "Shell"
  33. Achtaba1970 21 October 2015 16: 49 New
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    Quote: Bayonet
    Quote: Svetlana
    perhaps the new Bison will be equipped with a nuclear power plant. Then its range will be unlimited.

    And a photon engine! smile Do you have any idea how much a nuclear power plant will weigh commensurate with a gas turbine engine? In the best case scenario, God forbid, raise yourself on an "air cushion"!

    It will be put into low Earth orbit, paratroopers will be put into suspended animation, and at the right moment, shooting with Topol, Iskander and Caliber, it will descend and be reduced somewhere in the middle of 70% of the oceans and seas.
  34. Bastion 21 October 2015 23: 53 New
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    Normal idea, all need to be updated !!!