Foreign Ministry: the appearance of extremists in Syria MANPADS will be seen as aiding terrorism

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If armed groups in Syria will have man-portable air defense systems, then Moscow will view this fact as a direct complicity with terrorism, and the issue will be raised in the UN Security Council, reports REGNUM statement by the deputy head of the Russian Foreign Ministry Oleg Syromolotov.



“So far, no advanced air defense weapons have been fixed in the weapons of terrorists. However, there is evidence that terrorists are attempting to acquire Western-style MANPADS in neighboring states in the region, ”the diplomat said.

“Deliveries of MANPADS to any of the terrorist groups in Syria will mean that the country that did it, sided with the terrorist international. With all that it implies, - stressed Syromolotov. - I want it to sound like a serious warning. ”
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  1. +67
    17 October 2015 11: 32
    If the gangs in Syria will have portable anti-aircraft systems, then Moscow will consider this fact as direct aiding terrorism

    You can’t even name it anymore, svol ...
    1. +60
      17 October 2015 11: 35
      then Moscow will consider this fact as a direct complicity in terrorism, and the question will be raised in the UN Security Council,
      We must not consider, but act. There are special services and special forces for this.
      1. +13
        17 October 2015 11: 37
        I want it to sound like a serious warning. ” The desire is good, but it's all bullshit. No one in the world will react. Even during the Soviet era, the Afghan showed "stingers" to the whole world, no one reacted. Everything was considered to be done correctly by fascington, because we are the aggressors. Now we are also considered the aggressor, bombing the democratic opposition
        1. +140
          17 October 2015 12: 06
          Militants in Syria are an instrument of the United States, Turkey, Qatar and the Saudis. Significantly less so in Israel. So, just like they got the Ptrk tou2, so will the Pzkr and there’s no getting around it. The only option is to promise these countries alaverds - that is, to deliver in this case to Iran, the Hussites or Hezbollah something from which they feel bad. The Turks can be scared by the Kurds and supplies them with something. In general, our partners also have pain points and we can well put pressure on them.
          1. +17
            17 October 2015 12: 39
            Quote: g1v2
            Militants in Syria are an instrument of the United States, Turkey, Qatar and the Saudis. Significantly less so in Israel. So, just like they got the Ptrk tou2, so will the Pzkr and there’s no getting around it.

            -------------------------
            ISIS emissaries went to Ruin, for Shilki and Arrows, if I carefully follow the media ... However, their sponsors act quite quickly, they can also transfer the necessary information through the SSA, as the militants themselves sometimes boast ..
            1. +10
              17 October 2015 12: 59
              Ukraine itself is begging for weapons throughout the world; it can only help with fat. And delivering something from there to Syria is not easy. Qatar, the Saudis, Turkey and Jordan are much closer and more interested in the victory of the militants. PMs may well be thrown across the Turkish and Jordanian borders.
              1. +1
                17 October 2015 14: 03
                Quote: g1v2
                Qatar, the Saudis, Turkey and Jordan are much closer and more interested in the victory of the militants.

                Do you seriously think that they will not wait until the ISIS plague comes to their land? request
                1. +8
                  17 October 2015 14: 29
                  Turkey trades with them buys oil supplies weapons and treats, along with Israel, Saudis and Qatar also support the issue only in Jordan
                2. +9
                  17 October 2015 14: 52
                  What is there to know? These countries sponsor the IG. Naturally, they are not waiting for them on their land, but they will help to the last - so much money is swollen!
                3. +6
                  17 October 2015 17: 31
                  ISIS crosses the Turkish border in any direction and how do you think up what they think?
              2. +4
                17 October 2015 21: 21
                Ukraine itself arms around the world begs
                small But! Ukraine begs for "thank you", and these guys have green candy wrappers, incl. from the sale of oil and offer the current ukroelite a favorable price - they will also put their crews there, chained)
            2. +5
              17 October 2015 15: 04
              Quote: Altona
              Quote: g1v2

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              ISIS emissaries went to Ruin, for Shilki and Arrows, if I carefully follow the media ... However, their sponsors act quite quickly, they can also transfer the necessary information through the SSA, as the militants themselves sometimes boast ..

              If air defense appears among those who are at war with us (we got involved - FACT
              ), you will have to help those who in Afghanistan 3 / 14ndos do not sleep peacefully.
              It’s bad that part of the weapons can then work against us, but otherwise 3/14ndos may not understand.
              1. +5
                18 October 2015 03: 47
                Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
                3/14ndos


                3 / 14 = 3,14
                1. +3
                  18 October 2015 10: 05
                  Quote: saksan
                  Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
                  3/14ndos


                  3 / 14 = 3,14

                  I am aware of Maryaivanvna!
                  But so somehow more clearly)
                  Plus for vigilance.
              2. +2
                18 October 2015 12: 20
                3,14 are well aware of the possibility of such a symmetrical answer ... So wait and see ...
            3. +2
              17 October 2015 20: 37
              we (Ukraine), judging by Vlada's whining, and so nothing is enough, where can we float to the left and then how to stop the "akupants-aggressors" ...
            4. +1
              18 October 2015 12: 16
              CCA-Tipo legal laying, supply-marketers IG ....
            5. 0
              19 October 2015 23: 14
              Quote: Altona
              ISIS emissaries went to Ruin

              Dzhemilev to help them 100% will be so
          2. +16
            17 October 2015 12: 43
            They promised to close the sky in Yemen? Yes. And they will officially close over Syria, and not in Erdogan’s tantrums.
            This demarche of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs means two things - the first and the obvious - they will bring down transport boards if the US supplies MANPADS (namely, they will not, they will entrust the "six" like the Saudis). An attempt to transport the complexes by land is difficult and fraught with great risk - why should IS drag the complexes to Syria under bombs, if it is possible to shoot down amers planes on takeoff from air bases in Jordan, Turkey or Iraq. And terrorists and "moderate" stingers already have, and Soviet MANPADS. Quite a lot has been received from the deserting Iraqi and Iraqi troops.
            The question is that for one of ours or a modern Syrian fighter in the region, potential adversaries have 100. Everything rests on the air defense system and "Moscow", but the enemy has more aircraft than we have missiles. Therefore, Russia will act according to the principle of "leaving, extinguish all "in case of conflict. Israel has already chewed the cactus. The KSA still believes that it is far from it and that it is under the protection of the United States, which could end badly for them.
            1. +4
              17 October 2015 17: 36
              Quote: Thronekeeper
              will bring down transport sides if MANPADS

              3500-3800 ceiling for the stinger. This means - either on turntables, or at the time of landing take-off, and airports are guarded. Well, another su-25.
              Quote: Thronekeeper
              KSA so far believes that it is far away and it is under the protection of the United States, which for them could end badly.

              agree
            2. -4
              17 October 2015 23: 06
              And can you read more about the cactus chewed by Israel?
          3. +6
            17 October 2015 17: 01
            [i] The only option is to promise Alaverds to these countries — that is, to deliver to Iran, the Hussites or Hezbollah something from which they feel ill. The Turks can be scared by the Kurds and supplies them with something. In general, our partners also have pain points and we can well put pressure on them. [/ I
            Well, a lot of "needles" "arrows" appeared in the 80s at the "Red Brigades", etc.? Our carelessness will destroy us! Here one "chosen one" has already written that supplies of "stingers" to Israel are not threatened. like "friend or foe".
          4. 0
            17 October 2015 18: 46
            Quote: g1v2
            Militants in Syria are an instrument of the United States, Turkey, Qatar and the Saudis. Significantly less so in Israel. So, just like they got the Ptrk tou2, so will the Pzkr and there’s no getting around it. The only option is to promise these countries alaverds - that is, to deliver in this case to Iran, the Hussites or Hezbollah something from which they feel bad. The Turks can be scared by the Kurds and supplies them with something. In general, our partners also have pain points and we can well put pressure on them.


            Moreover, to create centers in these states and armies to counter extremism and terrorism using the UN mandate legally and hi what then they will sing!
          5. 0
            17 October 2015 19: 40
            I agree with the comment 100%. It is necessary to do everything in a complex, and to warn and control and put pressure on pain points.
          6. +4
            17 October 2015 20: 13
            An absolutely correct assumption, but they didn’t manage to scare them in Afghanistan, and since 1984, front-line aviation raised their heights, and the army crawled along the ground. However, at the moment, when our aircraft is operating in Syria, there are suggestions of effective means of moving the missile away from the target, at least MANPADS. Now, with regard to deliveries, they will definitely be who will provide them, it is also clear that international instruments will not be able to influence this, since our partners managed to take them. All that remains is to create a new world military-political instrument, (in connection with the situation in the Middle East), declare all states that have aided terrorism, their participants and go to a completely different plane of military-political dialogue, and maybe military.
          7. 0
            17 October 2015 22: 19
            Quote: g1v2
            our partners also have pain points we can well put pressure on them.

            CAN.
            Not enough is a little .. such a "character trait" in our government, with a fashionable name: POLITICAL WILL.
            1. +2
              17 October 2015 23: 28
              Quote: avia1991
              The smallest thing is missing ... such a "character trait" in our government, with a fashionable name: POLITICAL WILL

              And the use of calibers is yours what?
              1. +5
                18 October 2015 05: 42
                Quote: NEXUS
                And the use of calibers is yours what?

                "Fireworks" wassat
                The use of "Calibers" is saber rattling, to demonstrate the possibilities. It looked good, no doubt. What helped From a military point of view, this was not a necessary action!
                Now look around:
                -Turkey "put"? Yes. She is under the "protection" of NATO, and continues to say and do what she said and did. The threat to shoot down planes has been added.
                -Bulgaria: banned the flight of the Ministry of Emergency Situations through its airspace. The launch of "Caliber" did not affect them at all - they, like zombies, stupidly do everything to like the mattress.
                -Before, and in continuation: "Minsk agreements". In addition to admonitions and persuasion, Petenka could have been pressured more seriously long ago. And not pay so much "for the reunification of Donbass with Ukraine."
                By the way, you know about the statements of the fat trust Gerashchenko, I suppose? IDE "POLITICAL WILL"? Where is the adequate answer ?? "The TFR opened a criminal case!" .. There are so many of these pieces of paper written! PUSH ?! With Yarosh "not a single hair fell" with our help, Tyagnibok ... Nafig - I don't want to write a list.
                -Another moment - the Saudis: we talked with the crown prince, let the "Caliber" go to ostracize - and upon returning to the delegation's house, the Saudi Arabia began to dump with oil, FORCE US FROM THE EUROPEAN MARKET. Well?..
                Exhortations, persuasions work when it comes to normal people and adequate politicians. Most most effectively understand two languages: Money and Strength.
          8. +3
            18 October 2015 11: 17
            Absolutely, the only way it will be necessary to act in the case of deliveries of MANPADS to Ishilians! These countries must be warned, and if that didn’t help, then put our needles to the Hussites, Hezbollah, Kurds! And let's get Iran s-300 faster, how much you can pull, the situation is heating up !!!
          9. 0
            18 October 2015 12: 13
            + Afghanistan wanted to write the same thing ...
          10. 0
            19 October 2015 10: 31
            I completely agree, we can really answer.
        2. +22
          17 October 2015 12: 12
          Quote: Kil 31
          I want it to sound like a serious warning. ” The desire is good, but it's all bullshit. No one in the world will react. Even during the Soviet era, the Afghan showed "stingers" to the whole world, no one reacted. Everything was considered to be done correctly by fascington, because we are the aggressors. Now we are also considered the aggressor, bombing the democratic opposition

          for all 100 I agree in the entire history of Russia we were considered (schismatics, heretics, murzes, slaves) and just slaves but never the west and east considered us partners and all the unions that we entered into were ultimately them and violated that's the whole truth
        3. +5
          17 October 2015 12: 32
          Quote: keel 31
          The desire is good, but all this is garbage.

          Not bullshit at all. After our demonstrations, no one will want to try the ATO on their territory by the forces of the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Russian Navy.
          1. 0
            17 October 2015 12: 46
            Not bullshit at all. After our demonstrations, no one will want to try the ATO on their territory by the forces of the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Russian Navy.
            Bullshit. They will not start a war against the state. Economic sanctions? Ha ha ha
          2. +10
            17 October 2015 12: 47
            Quote: GSH-18
            Quote: keel 31
            The desire is good, but all this is garbage.

            Not bullshit at all. After our demonstrations, no one will want to try the ATO on their territory by the forces of the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Russian Navy.

            Sorry, we do not have ATO, we have WHO ... well, follow the words, please ...
            1. +3
              17 October 2015 12: 59
              Quote: sabakina
              Quote: GSH-18
              Quote: keel 31
              The desire is good, but all this is garbage.

              Not bullshit at all. After our demonstrations, no one will want to try the ATO on their territory by the forces of the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Russian Navy.

              Sorry, we do not have ATO, we have WHO ... well, follow the words, please ...

              You want to say that I involuntarily compared our operation in Syria with the lawlessness in Banderstat, baptized by the ATO? Relax, I don’t think these two military companies are the same in essence, and I don’t put us on the same level (God forbid) with the fascist actions of our former brothers in Novorossi.
          3. +3
            17 October 2015 12: 54
            And where will we conduct the ATO? In Saudi Arabia, Qatar or Washington? This is just a diplomatic demarche, the Kremlin will not go to military aggravation, even if our pilots die .... But these villains will supply XNUMX% to the Ishilov’s ...
            Quote: GSH-18
            Quote: keel 31
            The desire is good, but all this is garbage.

            Not bullshit at all. After our demonstrations, no one will want to try the ATO on their territory by the forces of the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Russian Navy.
            1. +2
              17 October 2015 13: 18
              Quote: dmi.pris
              And where will we conduct the ATO? In Saudi Arabia, Qatar or Washington? This is just a diplomatic demarche, the Kremlin will not go to military aggravation, even if our pilots die .... But these villains will supply XNUMX% to the Ishilov’s ...
              And if the mattresses die, the mattresses will go to military aggravation? belay hi
              1. +2
                17 October 2015 14: 58
                But mattresses will go, more precisely by the hands of their allies. And where the response does not arrive. I mean military operations against the above-named states, which would supply air defense systems to the ISIS. Unfortunately, our president is far from "Uncle Joe" with his far from diplomatic methods. I am generally amazed at our actions (Novorossiya). Having brought a knife, you have to beat, otherwise they will kill you ...
                Quote: Dali
                Quote: dmi.pris
                And where will we conduct the ATO? In Saudi Arabia, Qatar or Washington? This is just a diplomatic demarche, the Kremlin will not go to military aggravation, even if our pilots die .... But these villains will supply XNUMX% to the Ishilov’s ...
                And if the mattresses die, the mattresses will go to military aggravation? belay hi
            2. 0
              17 October 2015 13: 24
              Quote: dmi.pris
              In Saudi Arabia, Qatar or Washington?

              In addition, these citizens (with the Turks) have so many enemies in the region that only one thought that they might even have modern anti-tank systems and MANPADS after that will make them prepare to squeeze the point with full force ... laughing
        4. +9
          17 October 2015 12: 46
          Bullshit or not bullshit, but making such statements is necessary, time will tell everything.
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        6. +3
          17 October 2015 13: 09
          Quote: Kil 31
          I want it to sound like a serious warning. ” The desire is good, but it's all bullshit. No one in the world will react. Even during the Soviet era, the Afghan showed "stingers" to the whole world, no one reacted. Everything was considered to be done correctly by fascington, because we are the aggressors. Now we are also considered the aggressor, bombing the democratic opposition



          Even how they will react, we, as it was already written here on the site, caught the SGA (USA) for me ...., oh, for ISIS! Then, the USSR was an "evil empire" and it was possible and necessary to fight it by any means, and most importantly, ordinary people of the West believed in it! Now the situation is the opposite, ISIS themselves advertised the SGA as a devil, and now it will not work to turn on the return line and supply MANPADS from the SGA, they will not understand and will finally lose face! It is possible to force the servants to supply MANPADS, but with difficulty, since they are no longer so afraid of the owner, again, you can lose face and power, and "Calibers" fly far, you can get a response with quite real military means! hi

          PS: a limited number of countries produce MANPADS, the transfer of systems to third parties is strictly regulated and controlled, so manufacturers and operators understand this, it is unlikely that anyone will be happy if they write him down as an accomplice to terrorists, although of course there are options, the same warehouses of Libya and etc ..
        7. +5
          17 October 2015 13: 13
          Quote: keel 31
          I want this to sound like a serious warning. " The desire is good, but it's all bullshit. No one in the world will react. Even during the Soviet era, the Afghan showed "stingers" to the whole world, no one reacted. Everything was considered to be done correctly by fascington, because we are the aggressors. Now we are also considered the aggressor, bombing the democratic opposition


          Dear Igor, well, somehow the comparison is not entirely successful, if only because in the Syrian operation no one officially recognizes us as an aggressor, do not confuse political hysteria with a political position. There is some discontent in connection with our decisive actions and nothing more.

          Well, something like this. hi
          1. 0
            17 October 2015 14: 05
            Vladimir 1964 Dear Igor, well, somehow the comparison is not entirely successful, if only because in the Syrian operation no one officially recognizes us as an aggressor, do not confuse political hysteria with a political position. There is some discontent in connection with our decisive actions and nothing more.
            There is nothing to be confused about. The same people and countries are politically hysterical and hold a political position. If they are hysterical, they will hold the same hysterical political position against us. hi
            1. 0
              17 October 2015 18: 18
              Quote: keel 31
              If they are hysterical, they will hold the same hysterical political position against us.


              Dear Igor, so be it, but what does this have to do with recognizing us as aggressors. I repeat once again, in Syria at the official level no one recognizes us as an aggressor.

              All the same, something like this. hi
        8. +1
          17 October 2015 13: 35
          The statement was made for a wide range of listeners, and on the sidelines, I think, our diplomats explain that they can wait for those who neglected this warning. Today, many countries have their own pain points, the same Americans in Afghanistan have troops ...
        9. 0
          17 October 2015 17: 28
          Here, as if ISIS was already heavily smeared, and themselves, now it’s too late to backtrack. But they will scream that they sold the moderate, anyway. And the Saudis have already taken their air defense to Yemen, so it was not possible to agree, to be afraid that we would cover the sky there.
        10. 0
          17 October 2015 18: 49
          Do not tell. The only people who can deliver MANPADS are the Gulf countries. The states themselves will not do this, they will act with the wrong hands. In this case, this is a public warning to a specific state, primarily to the Saudis. And besides the UN Security Council, Russia will have other levers of influence, for example, the supply of similar weapons to Yemen. After all, ours were not in vain waiting before becoming more active in Syria. They waited for the Arabians and their allies to get bogged down in Yemen, and at the same time they would also have vulnerabilities.
        11. 0
          18 October 2015 04: 43
          it was a long time ago)) now the times are different, and the president is different hi
      2. +5
        17 October 2015 11: 41
        Quote: BilliBoms09
        We must not consider, but act. There are special services and special forces for this.

        There is. So, what is next?
        1. +6
          17 October 2015 11: 52
          And then a strategic missile in conventional equipment is sent to the government buildings of the supplier of these products. After the explosion of the usual P-29РМ head, 2 hectares of land cleared of buildings remain. And warn at the UN Security Council. As suggested above.
          1. +2
            17 October 2015 11: 58
            Quote: Amurets
            And then a strategic missile in conventional equipment is sent to the government buildings of the supplier of these products. After the explosion of the usual P-29РМ head, 2 hectares of land cleared of buildings remain. And warn at the UN Security Council. As suggested above.

            So you are fucking at the Shiite government of Iraq, can you predict further consequences?
            1. +1
              17 October 2015 12: 27
              Yes. If I didn’t know, I wouldn’t offer it. Even before the application, but only a warning, for some reason, the local security services very clearly begin to act to neutralize these weapons. And if you still warn the local population what awaits them, if MANPADS are used, shelling and they will be, but much less often. And it’s possible to use for display in the desert.
              1. +1
                17 October 2015 22: 10
                Quote: Amurets
                Yes. If I didn’t know, I wouldn’t offer it.

                No, in my opinion, you can’t imagine, you’ll strike a blow to Iran’s co-religionists, then the question of faith will rise above everything else, and from here very difficult times will begin in cooperation
            2. +1
              17 October 2015 13: 31
              Quote: sa-ag
              So you are fucking at the Shiite government of Iraq, can you predict further consequences?
              You didn’t mix anything up? belay We have more or less established cooperation with Iraq - a common headquarters in Baghdad, for example ...

              Well, there are plenty of citizens there who, with great pleasure from the ATGM and MANPADS on mattresses, Saudis, Turks and Qatari, will start firing ... laughing
              1. +2
                17 October 2015 14: 05
                I don’t mind. I will be especially pleased if I fire if they start from the Stingers, Blaupaev, Javelins or Gromov of Polish production on American planes.
              2. 0
                17 October 2015 22: 08
                Quote: Dali
                You didn’t mix anything up? We have more or less established cooperation with Iraq - a common headquarters in Baghdad, for example ...

                Yes, cooperation and ISIS are also in Iraq, what prevents them from bringing MANPADS from Iraq?
          2. +5
            17 October 2015 12: 27
            Quote: Amurets
            After the explosion of an ordinary P-29РМ head, 2 hectare of land remains, cleared of buildings.


            ... like Saudi Arabia and there is none ... well, and figs with it ... lol
          3. 0
            17 October 2015 12: 49
            And then a strategic missile in conventional equipment is sent to the government buildings of the supplier of these products. After the explosion of the usual P-29РМ head, 2 hectares of land cleared of buildings remain. And warn at the UN Security Council. As suggested above.
            And then rockets will fly to our government buildings. Although it is not so bad. Maybe he’ll kill any Nabiulin.
            1. +2
              17 October 2015 13: 11
              Quote: aleks700
              And then rockets will fly to our government buildings

              The Israelis have bombed their whole lives, like an otvetka. And hop that ... No.
              Recently, they struck the Syrian army in response to the shelling, it is not clear from whom. And the sky does not fall to the earth from indignation
            2. 0
              17 October 2015 14: 15
              Quote: aleks700
              And then rockets will fly to our government buildings. Although it is not so bad.

              Are you not with Bolotnaya? Or maybe from the Maidan?
          4. +5
            17 October 2015 12: 52
            Quote: Amurets
            And then a strategic missile in conventional equipment is sent to the government buildings of the supplier of these products. After the explosion of the usual P-29РМ head, 2 hectares of land cleared of buildings remain. And warn at the UN Security Council. As suggested above.

            Gee gee! lol Original. Use strategic ballistic missiles at a distance of 1,5 thousand km when they fly in 11 years.
            I recommend that you turn your eyes to the flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, the missile cruiser Moskva, and to its P-1000 Vulkan supersonic cruise missiles, of which there are 16 pieces, each weighing more than six tons. "Moscow" is in the Mediterranean Sea - closer, faster, more elegant good
            1. +4
              17 October 2015 13: 03
              The area of ​​destruction and the effect of the explosion are not the same, while old missiles must also be disposed of.
          5. +1
            17 October 2015 14: 12
            Quote: Amurets
            And then a strategic missile in conventional equipment is sent to the government buildings of the supplier of these products.

            Yes, at least in some equipment, the main thing is that it is a blow to the territory of a sovereign state. Well, find Stinger and we will hammer on the USA? Stern you are a man hi
          6. 0
            17 October 2015 17: 44
            Quote: Amurets
            And then a strategic missile in conventional equipment is sent to the government buildings of the supplier of these products. After the explosion of the usual P-29РМ head, 2 hectares of land cleared of buildings remain. And warn at the UN Security Council. As suggested above.

            Say it is easy to say when your words are worthless, and so you don’t need to be aware of the consequences, and then do not have to think. And the truth is why bother to keep in mind the various consequences when you are not responsible for anything.
            Okay, joking, in fact, you just wanted to enlighten us about the destructive effect of the R-29rm explosion, and not show off your knowledge. hi
        2. +2
          17 October 2015 12: 09
          There is. So, what is next?
          Act!
          1. +3
            17 October 2015 14: 19
            Quote: BilliBoms09
            Act!

            drinks
        3. +2
          17 October 2015 14: 09
          Quote: Semyon Semyonich
          There is. So, what is next?

          What's next? Yes, this is actually not important, the main thing is to severely make up eyebrows and TELL. smile
      3. +3
        17 October 2015 11: 46
        Quote: BilliBoms09
        We must not consider, but act. There are special services and special forces for this.


        Well..? Saudis and Qatar supply ... more .. what? Apart from deep concern and official statements, there will be nothing.
        And ours need to be more attentive .. especially when flying over mountainous terrain.

        Well, this is to be expected ..... because tea is not on flights according to the UBP plan soldier
        1. +24
          17 October 2015 11: 57
          Quote: ancient
          And ours need to be more attentive .. especially when flying over mountainous terrain.

          Good afternoon, Sasha. Glad to see you in good health. drinks
          So the work for the SU-30 was found. That's how I think they should intercept Amerov's transports and escort them. And in case of a moderate drop of cargo, "cover" the drop site with missiles and bombs.
          Sincerely. hi
        2. +1
          17 October 2015 12: 14
          Well..? Saudis and Qatar supply ... more .. what? Apart from deep concern and official statements, there will be nothing.
          Do you serve in the GRU of the General Staff or the FSB, or maybe SVR? Our special services will not scream to the whole world how they will counteract. After all, there is close by and Yemen, and Iran is nearby, too, you can put something.
          1. +1
            17 October 2015 16: 52
            Quote: BilliBoms09
            Do you serve in the GRU of the General Staff or the FSB, or maybe SVR?


            Already retired as 15 years old! soldier

            I'm not talking about our special services, but about local "uryakalok" soldier
      4. +1
        17 October 2015 12: 51
        That's right, during the next exercises, a couple of our missiles can "go astray" and "accidentally unload a couple of warehouses in the SA or the Emir's palace in Doha.
      5. -5
        17 October 2015 14: 25
        Quote: BilliBoms09
        We must not consider, but act. There are special services and special forces for this.

        Already active! smile
      6. +1
        17 October 2015 14: 44
        The rhetoric of our leadership is getting tougher, if only the show-offs are not there, then whoever has not hidden is not our fault. angry
      7. +2
        17 October 2015 15: 08
        Quote: BilliBoms09
        We must not consider, but act. There are special services and special forces for this.

        So what? Eliminate the leadership of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or Turkey? Do not smack nonsense.
      8. +1
        17 October 2015 18: 18
        Again, special forces for the stingers, as in Afghanistan? Are there any other methods to neutralize this? After all, there was time to think. what
      9. 0
        17 October 2015 19: 49
        Disarm itself by blasting at startup.
      10. +1
        17 October 2015 23: 01
        Let the special forces of Syria catch caravans. They are local to them easier to navigate. And so there is a passage yard - Turkey, Iraq, Jordan, how to block all borders? It is evident that pilots from altitudes over 5 km will have to work. soldier
    2. +3
      17 October 2015 11: 35
      The correct formulation of the question. It's time for Western producers to pinch their tails and "improve" their reputation.
      1. +3
        17 October 2015 11: 42
        So you need to wet it hard ...! In cities, there is no longer any population .. Israel needs to be connected, these can be a lot if they want to live peacefully (relatively) .. We need to hurry! hi
        1. +1
          18 October 2015 00: 26
          Yes, especially Israel. It will help art shelling in the warehouses of the Syrian army.
      2. -6
        17 October 2015 11: 48
        Quote: oleg-gr
        It's time for Western producers to pinch their tails and "improve" their reputation.


        How do you imagine that? And are there many "pinched ... tails" ... to "producers" in Afghanistan and Chechnya? wassat
        1. +6
          17 October 2015 16: 54
          Quote: ancient
          And how many "pinched ... tails" ... "producers" in Afghanistan and Chechnya?


          With the minuses, everything is clear .. the site VO has not become scarce yet ... "stoned" recourse

          But all the same I would like to hear ... how is it .... "tails to producers pinching" going? wink

          Or the most important thing is .. "to blow into the air" "urya-patriotic slogan"? request
          1. +2
            17 October 2015 17: 24
            Quote: ancient
            Or the most important thing is .. "to blow into the air" "urya-patriotic slogan"?
            good
            Of course - it's holy! bully drinks
      3. 0
        17 October 2015 17: 22
        Quote: oleg-gr
        The correct formulation of the question. It's time for Western producers to pinch their tails and "improve" their reputation.

        To manufacturers? what That is, as I understand it, if somewhere someone was killed from our machine gun, then, in your opinion, the Kalashnikov concern is to blame? request
    3. +11
      17 October 2015 11: 37
      It was necessary to say this for a long time, mattress covers with Sauds had long been threatening to put MANPADS to bandits, but it is better late than never and most importantly that the words do not go away with deed, otherwise there will be another air shock.
    4. +12
      17 October 2015 11: 38
      The rules of the game are becoming tougher. Russia raised the bet. Pushkov said yesterday that the ball is on the US side. We are waiting ...
    5. +1
      17 October 2015 12: 29
      “The supply of MANPADS to any of the terrorist groups in Syria will mean that the country that did this sided with the terrorist international. With all that it implies- emphasized Syromolotov. “I want this to sound like a serious warning.”

      This is already powerful! good And what will be the "ensuing consequences" were demonstrated by the Russian Kalibr cruise missiles and the RF strike air group in the SAR good
    6. +2
      17 October 2015 23: 39
      Wait and see! The confrontation is growing.
    7. -1
      18 October 2015 09: 53
      No way to call it
      You can call it differently. This is war! And it is useless to bring this issue up to the UN Security Council. You just need to warn the "partners" if our planes start falling, yours will fall too!
    8. 0
      18 October 2015 16: 14
      So how can the Saudis be dealt a blow in the book "Altar of Victory"? It's just that everything was delayed by 30 years.
  2. +7
    17 October 2015 11: 33
    the country that did this sided with the terrorist international. With all that it implies

    Classics: "we'll find and soak in the toilet." I hope there are no doubts about it. Well, if there are any, so much the worse for them.
    1. +1
      17 October 2015 12: 15
      The question is how to implement this? Russia is not in a vacuum, there are heaps of "well-wishers" around ...
  3. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 33
    and the Yankees will still supply the "moderate opposition", how can they leave their offspring "to mock Russia"
    1. +3
      17 October 2015 11: 36
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      and the Yankees will still supply the "moderate opposition", how can they leave their offspring "to mock Russia"

      Who would say which particular offspring is not their native not their own. All that is disgusting is being done, all this is their business, deeds.
      1. 0
        17 October 2015 12: 16
        Who would say which particular offspring is not their native not their own. All that is disgusting is being done, all this is their business, deeds.
        They should not even be blamed for anything, they’ve blasphemed everywhere, how many millions (?) Lives were claimed by their shitty (read oligarchic) ​​ambitions !!!
    2. +1
      17 October 2015 11: 43
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      and the Yankees will still supply the "moderate opposition", how can they leave their offspring "to mock Russia"

      Well, I don’t know, I don’t know, I think, directly, they will not deliver on their own behalf, if at all. They are afraid that their planes will also be shot down from these MANPADS, because there is no guarantee of the opposite, given how easily militants and weapons go to ISIS. And what will taxpayers say if at least one American plane is shot down from an American MANPADS? ...
    3. 0
      17 October 2015 17: 27
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      and the Yankees will still supply the "moderate opposition", how can they leave their offspring "to mock Russia"

      This is unlikely. The States are well aware that in Syria ANY weapon will easily move from "moderate" opposition to radical. And you don't want to receive "greetings" in the form of your own MANPADS missiles either. Turkey and Israel are also against this.
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  5. -8
    17 October 2015 11: 34
    either clerks have lied on this site — according to some sources, the Syrian Air Force has already destroyed 90% of helicopters; than destroyed by Assad’s pipette or all the bandits of MANPADS; if MANPADS haven’t been delivered to them yet, then there is a chatter about the loss of helicopters from the Syrians; you gentlemen, writers determine the logic
    1. -15
      17 October 2015 11: 46
      Oppositionists on earth have assassinated Asad aviation, dispensed with MANPADS
      1. +6
        17 October 2015 11: 48
        tell these tales in Israel
        1. -11
          17 October 2015 12: 29
          yeah, in israel, in tel-murmansk.
        2. +3
          17 October 2015 15: 26
          Yes, this dill Svidomo is registered under different nicknames and under a moths flag. I calculated it a few days ago laughing
          1. 0
            17 October 2015 16: 23
            you already have some kind of mania, everywhere you see dill. I put the flag on topwar myself, I don’t know why it’s American. I’m sitting on an Internet from under Rostelecom-Murmansk, the IP should correctly see.
        3. -1
          17 October 2015 17: 30
          Quote: traveler
          Oppositionists on earth have assassinated Asad aviation, dispensed with MANPADS

          Quote: dojjdik
          tell these tales in Israel

          That's right, a lot of equipment was destroyed on the ground either during the capture of air bases, or simply during shelling. In addition, Syria was sorely lacking in spare parts, many helicopters and aircraft were just there, and the rest were inoperative.
      2. +2
        17 October 2015 11: 59
        This is a mishandled Cossack from MI-5 or MI-6. Yesterday I didn’t count Slavs as people, today I started throwing fakes again.
        1. -1
          17 October 2015 12: 28
          of the foot! this is where am i
          Slavs did not consider people
          ?
          1. +1
            17 October 2015 13: 10
            And yesterday. In the comments to the article "Why did Old Man lose.
            1. -2
              17 October 2015 13: 19
              how? and I didn’t notice. Apparently, when you tell the "megapatriots" that let's stick to the official history, and not write nonsense about the millennial Rus, it means "the Slavs should not be considered people."
              what kind of complexes? Russia has a serious and interesting history of its own, why should it be kept up and invented?
              1. +2
                17 October 2015 14: 22
                If you adhere to the official history, especially New and Newest, then it says that product No. 2 will not be put on a single mammoth trunk. Therefore, there is no official history and most likely will not be. But mention of the Rus and the Vikings from the northern land can be found among the ancient Romans. meetings and trade were usually held at the Dnieper rapids. And amber was the most expensive commodity.
                1. 0
                  17 October 2015 15: 07
                  Of course, the ancient Romans did not know either the Rus or the Vikings - for the lack of such at that time. This is from a series of folkhistories.
                  1. -1
                    17 October 2015 16: 26
                    like this. also "do not consider the Slavs for people"?
                    that there are the Romans, still Sumerians Russ use a spoon and ass learned to wipe
                  2. +3
                    18 October 2015 02: 30
                    I can’t stand and do not rely on folklore. But who did the ancient Greeks trade with in Crimea? Can you explain to me who and when laid the city of Tmutaran? And why did all this scientific history begin to date earlier than it was in old studies?
              2. +2
                17 October 2015 15: 09
                And you do not write "official" history - this is ridiculous, write - scientific history. It will be clearer and clowns from history will not be so excited about it.
                1. 0
                  17 October 2015 16: 19
                  this is unlikely to help, they have already convinced themselves of everything and believe in it
      3. +8
        17 October 2015 12: 46
        Quote: traveler
        Oppositionists on earth have assassinated Asad aviation, dispensed with MANPADS

        You are probably not in the know, dear, but the Assad aviation is driving the bearded "rebels" like pigs undercut throughout Syria. Unlike our air group, they are not bound by any obligations, such as not to bomb the "moderate opposition". And now, when the strike air group of the Russian Federation has taken on the most difficult part of the military work, Assad's army boldly goes on the offensive, clearing its land of the abomination of ISIS. Only 5 or 6 settlements were freed from bearded cockroaches yesterday!
        I wish them good luck. And God help our pilots! Yes
        1. +2
          17 October 2015 17: 36
          Quote: GSH-18
          You are probably not in the know, dear, but the Assad aviation is driving the bearded "rebels" like pigs undercut throughout Syria.

          What drives - there is no market! But the fact that a lot of equipment was seized along with the airbases, or destroyed during shelling of the airbases cannot be denied either, there were many reports on this on our TV. Even some kind of horseradish threatened Russia from the territory of the captured air base, then Kadyrov answered him. It was, it was, do not forget.
          1. 0
            17 October 2015 18: 11
            Quote: andj61
            But the fact that a lot of equipment was seized along with the airbases, or destroyed during shelling of the airbases cannot be denied either, there were many reports on this on our TV. Even some kind of horseradish threatened Russia from the territory of the captured air base, then Kadyrov answered him. It was, it was, do not forget.

            No one denies. Necessary decisions are made. Appropriate measures are being taken to destroy the IG. All the way. good
      4. +1
        17 October 2015 14: 36
        Oppositionists are those who cut off their heads and blow up buses? is it such an opposition?
        1. +2
          17 October 2015 16: 20
          it was about helicopters
      5. +2
        18 October 2015 00: 29
        did not understand Che minus. it was indeed buried on the earth without PZRK. or amerflag already acts like a red rag on a bull. saw the flag and the hand itself -----.
    2. 0
      17 October 2015 12: 14
      either clerks have lied on this site — according to some sources, the Syrian Air Force has already destroyed 90% of helicopters; than destroyed by Assad’s pipette or all the bandits of MANPADS;

      Most destroyed by barrel artillery, the good old shaitan-arba - Shilka ...
  6. 0
    17 October 2015 11: 34
    And if MANPADS come from Iraq, then what about all sorts of coordination headquarters and MANPADS? :-)
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 11: 37
      see item number 1
      1. 0
        17 October 2015 11: 46
        Quote: gor530
        see item number 1

        This is such an interesting nuance, let's say such a hypothetical situation - MANPADS came to Syria from the robbed arsenals of Iraq, the Russian Federation raises the question that Iraq is an accomplice of terrorist organizations, and here the piquancy of the situation is revealed - the Russian Federation is now cooperating with Iraq, it turns out then that the Russian Federation will supply yourself in the position of a country cooperating with another country, which "... took the side of the terrorist international.", it's like a non-commissioned officer
    2. +4
      17 October 2015 11: 47
      Quote: sa-ag
      And if MANPADS come from Iraq, then what about all sorts of coordination headquarters and MANPADS? :-)

      They can easily fit this. The government of Iraq under amers. Then, when we present such an installation, they simply say that ISIS captured it. So same as abrashek and much more.
      1. +1
        17 October 2015 12: 21
        In this case, the Iraqi government should have provided data on what and how much was seized from them, and they should have done this for a long time. This time. Two: It is well known who, what, what type of Iraq supplied. MANPADS are everywhere specially registered, these are not pistol cartridges. Those. today, it should be known exactly what the terrorists have, how many are found and destroyed, and how many are still hiding. It follows from this, if more has appeared, then someone has sold.
  7. +12
    17 October 2015 11: 38
    In reality, the story repeats itself, in turns, and a little - differently .... I hope this time with a completely different result.

    All the same, "then" the situation in our country was completely different ..... And so - everything is very similar.

    1. 0
      17 October 2015 11: 48
      Quote: DEZINTO
      And so, it seems everything is very!

      Yes, I agree, and I have already mentioned this more than once, but it seems that people think that this time everything is different, it's like believing in some miracle
      1. 0
        17 October 2015 12: 26
        The difference is that now the main defendants in all this pornography fly side by side, completely together. Well, I think the development of thought is clear? To cool the ardor of these half-wimps like two fingers ... Miracles are nearby! Here they are, in front of us! You just need to see them.
        1. +1
          17 October 2015 22: 17
          Quote: Observer 33
          Miracles are nearby! Here they are, in front of us! You just need to see them.

          Yes, there have been such "miracles" in Afghanistan for 10 years, what is the result now?
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  9. +4
    17 October 2015 11: 41
    So after all, you still need to find a prankster, As always, the guilty will make surprised eyes, like, yes, figs knows how it swam there .. Or they will say bluntly, this is the help of a "moderate opposition" ..
  10. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 41
    will mean that the country that did this has sided with the terrorist international

    You won’t break this bourgeois. But if a pair of their air units is shot down using MANPADS, then maybe they will think. Although unlikely. They will start a new company against Russia - they have such a gut.
    1. +1
      17 October 2015 12: 09
      For such a good deed, it is not a pity that both the American Stingers and the English Javelins apply.
  11. +8
    17 October 2015 11: 41
    This means that those who put MANPADS to terrorists will be recognized as terrorists, and they will act accordingly. PS It can be Saudis and Qatar, and also the country provocateur Dill ..
  12. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 42
    Oho, ho. And so until the Third World we roll ...
  13. +3
    17 October 2015 11: 44
    I would say directly that this is not even aiding, but pure terrorism
  14. +3
    17 October 2015 11: 44
    I think such a warning will not help. Western jackals will veto our resolution on this issue in the UN Security Council. They wedge a wedge with a wedge .. as a response option it will be necessary to support the Hussites and provide them with the necessary weapons, including MANPADS. Apparently, the Saudis did not accept our proposals and ignored the warnings, preferring the path of confrontation.
  15. 0
    17 October 2015 11: 45
    I want this to sound like a serious warning
    I want this every day to explain to all citizens of those countries whose governments it is time to finish it.
  16. +6
    17 October 2015 11: 47
    The USA is the main terrorist of the planet, this is already clear
  17. 0
    17 October 2015 11: 47
    A small hint of thick circumstances. Caliber is a hammer, for sheep there is a sledgehammer. I am silent about nuclear weapons
  18. +4
    17 October 2015 11: 49
    I no longer hoped to ever hear THIS. Will someone explain to me what has changed in our country and why? I hope that now everything will be in an adult way!
    1. +4
      17 October 2015 12: 04
      The modernization of the aircraft has reached the desired point. We conducted a number of large-scale exercises. Do not understand. They showed that quite a few of our advisers are enough to muzzle "the most powerful army in Europe - the Ukrop army" - they do not understand. Well then, let's show what the reinforced aerospace regiment is capable of. And patrol boats in the closed Caspian. Did you hear it? Now let's talk ...
  19. +4
    17 October 2015 11: 50
    Well, if terrorists have MANPADS, then what will prevent the Yemeni rebels from having MANPADS?
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 11: 55
      Quote: Sergei Medvedev
      Well, if terrorists have MANPADS, then what will prevent the Yemeni rebels from having MANPADS?

      Logistics is bad there, especially from the sea
  20. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 50
    - I want this to sound like a serious warning
    This tone is more intelligible.
  21. 0
    17 October 2015 11: 52
    If someone doesn’t want to live peacefully and will sell MANPADS from MANPADS and die.
    By chance, a brick will fall on his head.
  22. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 55
    Quote: Kil 31
    I want it to sound like a serious warning. ” The desire is good, but it's all bullshit. No one in the world will react. Even during the Soviet era, the Afghan showed "stingers" to the whole world, no one reacted. Everything was considered to be done correctly by fascington, because we are the aggressors. Now we are also considered the aggressor, bombing the democratic opposition

    But the current situation is somewhat different. We are not alone in countering the spread of terrorism. Some countries support Russia and this is an essential circumstance. The world has sipped its fill of "color" revolutions. There is also a split in the assessments of Syria in the European elites. There are chances for the support of the Russian Federation. Moreover, we are no longer considered a "totalitarian regime". If we recognize the political system of the Russian Federation as totalitarian, then our "moneybags" will have even fewer opportunities to increase capital in partnership with "theirs" business circles. So, in the field of countering terrorism in Syria, everything is not so gloomy compared to 1978 in Afghanistan.
  23. +7
    17 October 2015 12: 01
    MANPADS, in any case, will begin their journey from the supplier to the igiloves in mattresses. I have always and everywhere repeated and will repeat: a good mattress is a dead mattress. And this is not an undeniable fact ...
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  24. +6
    17 October 2015 12: 01
    The statement was made, tomorrow the Saudi monarchy will deliver complexes, our actions, shelling and bombing (there will not be this), the supply of weapons to the Houthis is not the same, it is necessary to urgently stop the "games" with "partners", especially Qatar and Saudi Arabia, as soon as it appears (there is already intelligence data on the presence of anti-aircraft missile systems), immediately drive the weapon "quietly through Iran) the Houthis, the Saudis close the sky for aviation flights, and" fire off friends from overseas with captured Stingers, preferably shoot down), the same with the Turks
  25. 0
    17 October 2015 12: 03
    Well, the number of potential sellers is small, frankly.
    But it’s interesting, what kind of measures will we take?
    Especially in the case of the Saudis and Qatari ...
    But the most interesting thing will be if Israel is caught for this.
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 12: 50
      Israel is unlikely, they have been fighting with mortal combat for every centimeter of recently acquired land, since 1948,
      others are possible (Poroshenko sold out, so there are others, as they say: it's time to return the favor), but "the head of a fish", USA, then only performers,
      and there are only one measures of struggle, a corresponding statement to the UN and beat fascism international, already without retouching and fireworks,
  26. +2
    17 October 2015 12: 06
    I have no doubt that MANPADS will soon appear there, and it is precisely the production of the USA or Great Britain! Enemy as you do not twist the enemy !!!
  27. +2
    17 October 2015 12: 08
    If the facts are confirmed by something or other, the states have transferred MANPADS. It will be necessary for Russia in the UN Security Council to raise the question of officially recognizing this country at the international level as a party that supports terrorism and finances it.
  28. 0
    17 October 2015 12: 13
    However, there is evidence that terrorists are attempting to acquire Western-style MANPADS

    On the other hand, this is good! It will be possible to demonstrate to the world what protection we have against MANPADS ...
  29. +2
    17 October 2015 12: 13
    Mattress covers are directly transferred for. Saudis are urged on, and Turks. These "inadequate", and are unlikely to resist, "not to touch death by the mustache." Moreover, the symmetrical response in the form of "Willow" in the hands of the Kurds does not frighten the Turks very much (for some reason). And even a blank shot from MANPADS in the vicinity of Antalya airport would frighten me by 20 billions of greens a year! And it is imperative that the same brand that will be supplied to "moderate terrorists". And deactivate the fuse. We are not Ukrop cannibals.
  30. +1
    17 October 2015 12: 14
    It is necessary to "snuggle up to Israel" .. These will decide everything quickly if their safety concerns .. They want to sit behind the "iron rusty dome" ..! It will not work ... If the US starts deliveries, we will open the passage towards the Israeli border! Meet ...! If you help us, we will soak .. (in general, the sanctions can be lifted from us ..))) Putin all right in Syria climbed ... There Israel is nearby and you can put pressure on the whole world! The game is just beginning gentlemen. ... hi
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 12: 20
      Quote: MIKHAN
      we will open the passage towards the border of Israel!

      Who are we?
      1. +1
        17 October 2015 12: 25
        Quote: sa-ag
        Quote: MIKHAN
        we will open the passage towards the border of Israel!

        Who are we?

        And who are you ..?
        1. +9
          17 October 2015 12: 31
          Our work day and night ....!
        2. 0
          17 October 2015 22: 19
          Quote: MIKHAN
          And who are you ..?

          I am I in the singular, but who is this "we"?
    2. 0
      17 October 2015 14: 46
      only Sunni militants are loyal to Israel and their Jews do not consider a threat
  31. 0
    17 October 2015 12: 17
    “The delivery of MANPADS to any of the terrorist groups in Syria will mean that the country that did this has sided with the terrorist international. With all the ensuing consequences, ”Syromolotov emphasized. “I want this to sound like a serious warning.”
    And when determining the country of the supplier. Take harsh measures up to a retaliatory strike. The only way .
  32. 0
    17 October 2015 12: 19
    The Saudis and the West will not deliver MANPADS openly, but from under the silence - you are always welcome if you feel Russia's weakness.
    Diplomacy and the Armed Forces of Russia must be more effective than ever.
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 12: 34
      And if something, the Caspian flotilla will reach Riyadh .....
  33. +1
    17 October 2015 12: 20
    Interestingly, the girls are dancing. First Toyota SUVs, and now MANPADS. But I remember. that ISIS has planes, so it would be necessary for the Kurds to help with MANPADS.
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 12: 39
      ISIS aviation, if any, is mostly junk sitting on the ground .. and for the rest there are multi-purpose fighters ..
    2. +1
      17 October 2015 12: 40
      Quote: Yarik
      Interestingly, the girls are dancing. First Toyota SUVs, and now MANPADS. But I remember. that ISIS has planes, so it would be necessary for the Kurds to help with MANPADS.

      It’s better not to give the Kurds MANPADS .. They’re angry, they’ll beat all the planes in Turkey and Iraq .. Let’s better with Syria’s Kalash help Russia! hi
  34. +2
    17 October 2015 12: 22
    "The United States did not agree to jointly rescue the pilots of the aircraft shot down in Syria," Russian Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov said at the XNUMXth Xiangshan Security Forum.
    "Look", today.
    At first they threaten to supply MANPADS, now they refuse to joint operations on the possible rescue of pilots. As a ram they rested, not realizing that they were digging a hole for themselves.
  35. +4
    17 October 2015 12: 22
    The correct statement. Just need to more accurately determine the degree of responsibility for the dull.
  36. 0
    17 October 2015 12: 31
    Guys, tell me, "MANPADS" are scaring us, can our planes escape from their shelling unharmed?
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 13: 40
      May leave, may not leave
      It all depends on the type of MANPADS, the flight mode, the qualifications of the pilot ... his "chuyki and luck"
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  37. +3
    17 October 2015 12: 32
    The flywheel is launched and is gaining momentum, because the Foreign Ministry has ceased to comply with the politesis. Winter is getting closer ...
  38. +1
    17 October 2015 12: 46
    Letting the genie out of the bottle is fraught. And it will be bad not only (and not so much) for Russia, but for all "flying squirrels" in the skies of Syria and beyond. And the warning is correct: you can always say, we warned you. To some extent, this frees our hands. Russia's active military operations in Syria and the determination of its leadership in the fight against terrorism contribute to a better understanding of the seriousness of the warning.
  39. +6
    17 October 2015 12: 47
    we have protection against MANPADS, I think the Americans really want to test it for strength, therefore they will use every opportunity to test it and draw appropriate conclusions, most likely they will want to test their capabilities as well I don’t think they sat idly by and did not work on the creation of new systems , the war of technologies has not been canceled - all combat operations are used to the maximum to test new models in the case. So a long and tiring confrontation awaits us if ISIS is not defeated in Syria. Now a lot depends on ground actions, and so far they are going very hard, too much money has been poured into them, the preparation was carried out professionally, and certainly not by wild Islamists. The main thing is to correctly calculate your strength and not go to extremes - "everything is lost" or "we will chop everyone." While our Defense Ministry manages to keep the golden mean, we are glad that we behave calmly and with dignity, sometimes we joke about "partners" to our strength, many in the West feel it and begin to slowly respect or fear, which is also not bad. soldier
  40. 0
    17 October 2015 12: 48
    a question for people who are so versed in the intricacies of the military. How, for example, can determine the manufacturer of this MANPADS? let's say if there is a marking then it’s one hundred pounds overwritten .. sawed up .. then poured into the conflict.
  41. +4
    17 October 2015 12: 52
    [quote = DON-100] I think such a warning will not help. Western jackals will veto our resolution on this issue in the UN Security Council.


    Let impose and once again show their identity.
  42. +1
    17 October 2015 12: 53
    The official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense Anatoly Antonov said that the American authorities refused to cooperate with our country in the event of a possible crash of an aircraft of the international coalition, which allegedly is fighting against the Islamic State group banned in the Russian Federation.
    “Is there no more humane goal, how to combine all efforts in order to save this pilot?” What is bad if the United States and Russia have established cooperation even in this area, because such a disaster could happen with the Russian pilot, he told reporters.

    Hike, dotted over the "i" ...
    http://www.kp.ru/online/news/2194766/
  43. +1
    17 October 2015 12: 57
    Do not guess for a long time which country took the side of the terrorists! Zvezdanuto-striped because we have world hegemons. Without their knowledge, few dare. But the Foreign Ministry is on the right track, first to convict of complicity, and there to bring down their flyers as accomplices
  44. +2
    17 October 2015 13: 09
    For suppliers of MANPADS to release a couple of missiles, the desire to supply weapons to terrorists itself will disappear.
  45. +4
    17 October 2015 13: 22
    "Load MANPADS" Verbu "in barrels"
    and to Afghanistan! laughing
  46. 0
    17 October 2015 13: 28
    Very correct! Only very diplomatic language is said. Translated into plain language, it will simply cause rocket attacks on the country from where the MANPADS came to the terrorists.
    1. 0
      18 October 2015 20: 09
      is it a war and is already big ????? soldier
  47. +1
    17 October 2015 13: 29
    The United States will not risk supplying its MANPADS, otherwise they will only be able to shoot down its own in Iraq. And if in Afghanistan, there is also ISIS and it is not a problem to transfer weapons there. The situation in the UN is somewhat different than in Afghanistan, the United States did not fly there and did not fight the evil of the world. So they have already tarnished the reputation, because the weapon is constantly in the immoderate opposition. And if MANPADS find them, the scandal will be worldwide. In this situation, the best option is to make a retaliatory dirty trick and put MANPADS to Kurds, for example, Syrian and Iraqi, but ours will noblely do this. All the same, judging by the tone of our Ministry of Defense, if MANPADS are used, then it will not seem a little, and the case of the UN Security Council will not end. In the meantime, hope for the skill of our pilots and electronic warfare. And you also need to quickly take control of the Turkish border so that the mouse does not run. Then you can destroy any cargo that the United States will deliver by air.
    1. 0
      18 October 2015 20: 07
      scandal, scandal only the Americans will again pretend to be fools, and look at something we’ll get banged at home and we’re not like. Im human lives that seeds
  48. +2
    17 October 2015 13: 29
    Who comes to us with MANPADS, he will receive from MANPADS!
  49. +1
    17 October 2015 13: 34
    And why such a noise. As far as I know, Cret was developed under the MANPADS of foreign industries
  50. +1
    17 October 2015 13: 39
    What can be done, firstly it will not be easy, to prove where the PZRK is from, track the distribution channels, find a supplier and a customer, exclude Israel further, its planes also fly far over Syria, they will not oppose Russia, Qatar, Saudis, one chain and the Americans are different, the Turks will always play their game, here’s the list, the answer for the Arabs is closing the sky, arms supplies and political support for the Hussites, for the Americans it’s the same as for the Arabs plus Assad’s troops to shoot down their planes at the border, for the Turks Kurds supply tions including MANPADS (not our) policy support to increase the strength of the Syrian istribiteli videoconferencing and everywhere notes of protest, as without them, or without some notes listed above
  51. +1
    17 October 2015 13: 41
    And how does our Foreign Ministry plan to punish accomplices? Will they express deep concern?
  52. +1
    17 October 2015 13: 58
    If MANPADS appear in Syria among the ISIS, the Yemeni Houthis will simply appear more modernly.
  53. +1
    17 October 2015 14: 10
    Quote: Aspeed
    It could be simpler. There is a concept of "unacceptable damage". If tomorrow information appears that Qatar handed over MANPADS to terrorists or financed it, then “unacceptable damage” is inflicted on Qatar - the oil production and oil transportation industry is destroyed to zero, like sponsors of terrorism. And let them scream as much as they like.

    This is how you need to deal with them so that they don’t get financed...!!!
  54. +2
    17 October 2015 14: 22
    The most important thing is that a serious warning is followed by serious action, because... impunity encourages permissiveness (those who served in the army know).
  55. +1
    17 October 2015 14: 51
    I don't think the threat of being caught supporting terrorism will stop Americans. There's no turning back... recourse
  56. +1
    17 October 2015 14: 55
    everything is correct. Each object must be called by its own name. And the transactions of the brothers in terror, this is related to the murder and the game. This is more plausible.
  57. +1
    17 October 2015 14: 56
    Uncle Sam is already backed into a corner.
    He has less and less chances to lie like Poroshenko.
    Already the smallest person in the world begins to understand from what components American DEMOCRACY was created!
  58. 0
    17 October 2015 15: 24
    Quote: g1v2
    They may well be thrown across the Turkish and Jordanian borders.

    hmmm, but just stupidly drop it by parachute, like a humanitarian aid? They say they wanted it to be moderate, but it turned out as always. Well, they were warned about Allaverda.
  59. +1
    17 October 2015 15: 31
    Jews must control all this...It's their problem! Our defense is good... We kill everyone! If militants with MANPADS end up in Israel for treatment, what should they do? bully
  60. 0
    17 October 2015 16: 36
    Wait and see! It is possible to bring out the accomplice countries endlessly; in principle, they are all known. You just need to do the job resignedly and take care of your guys. And let all the other accomplices tear out the hairs on the back of their heads.
  61. +2
    17 October 2015 16: 44
    Well-organized DRGs are capable of acting both alone and together in close contact with the coordination and analytical center!!! and support by the main forces, in the event of the appearance of an effective enemy MANPADS, they will have to protect our pilots and not allow the rabble to rejoice. Fortunately, there are enough competent specialists
  62. 0
    17 October 2015 17: 39
    We need to warn our friends more often about the possible consequences of their actions. If you piss off Mother Russia!
  63. 0
    17 October 2015 17: 44
    [quote=chunga-changa]And how does our Foreign Ministry plan to punish accomplices? Will they express deep concern?[/quote
    Exactly! It just won’t be any other way, and it can’t be. Those who here propose to bomb everyone to hell are clearly not on friendly terms with their heads. But such issues cannot be resolved through diplomacy. Everything is decided on earth. How is the question. In short, if anything, they will again artistically whistle and sting.
    Now we need to bomb culturally and moderately...gee-gee-gee...
  64. +1
    17 October 2015 17: 52
    Of course there will be MANPADS. You won’t get through our sworn partners with statements. You will also have to fight with them, but for them this is the end.
  65. +1
    17 October 2015 18: 35
    The main thing is that words do not diverge from deeds. We know roughly where these MANPADS can get to the Middle East. The names of these “countries” are well known; the USA and the West use them in their game. These are springboards for an attack on Russia.
  66. 0
    17 October 2015 19: 06
    In this regard, you just need to react adequately. Throw it in. so to speak, a dirty trick to the “partners”. Arm everyone and everything against such “partners”. Business then!
  67. 0
    17 October 2015 19: 07
    You give MANPADS to every black neighborhood in the USA.
  68. 3vs
    0
    17 October 2015 19: 59
    The arrogant Saxons will DEFINITELY install these complexes!
    Either through Turkey or the Saudis, but it will definitely happen.
    They didn’t stir things up so that Russia could restore order in the region.
    It’s a matter of time, it’s not for nothing that the Americans warned that Russia would soon lose its planes...
  69. 0
    17 October 2015 20: 30
    With the advent of MANPADS among the bandits, they will have to change their battle tactics, for example, fly higher. In this case, MANPADS may suddenly appear among the Kurds who can shoot down Turkish planes, and Syria may suddenly have modern air defense systems that will shoot down planes of the interventionist countries, and that's all except Russia
  70. 0
    17 October 2015 21: 18
    The Saudis are now suffering huge losses in money from cheap oil, which they themselves dropped, and from the war with Yemen. They are digging their own grave and Putin will simply push them there. Modern war is a war of high technology, if you have it, it will be fast, but if not, it will be a war of attrition, and this will last for a long time and neither side will win. We saw this in Donbass.
  71. jacquelynio16
    0
    17 October 2015 21: 54
    Test, just a test
  72. 0
    17 October 2015 22: 03
    Since there is a warning, it means there have already been incidents, then the RF Ministry of Defense will look to see if they understood the hint or not..
    If not, then I think the reconnaissance will work as it should and the channels will be opened quickly, these are still serious systems.
    And then someone will have to answer for it.
  73. +3
    17 October 2015 22: 47
    Quote: lukke
    Ukraine itself arms around the world begs
    small But! Ukraine begs for "thank you", and these guys have green candy wrappers, incl. from the sale of oil and offer the current ukroelite a favorable price - they will also put their crews there, chained)


    I agree completely. Moreover, Ukraine has established itself as a lawless state, which in itself begs the question of supplying the same arrows (there are many of them in warehouses in the former USSR). So there are no supplies of stingers and America has nothing to do with it...
  74. juanitagu69
    0
    17 October 2015 23: 55
    Test, just a test
  75. malindaee69
    0
    18 October 2015 01: 25
    Test, just a test
  76. go
    0
    18 October 2015 03: 12
    No need to fly there on turntables! It seems that dizziness from success has already begun. This whole mess is not worth the lives of our pilots.
  77. +1
    18 October 2015 03: 45
    It's high time to bomb Qatar and the Saudis into the sand. A reason will appear if they provide ISIS with MANPADS. If it doesn’t appear, then create this excuse. We must act according to American patterns. They shook a test tube at the UN and there is no country. Why are we any worse? And oil will soar to 200 bucks. Benefits from all sides. What does it mean for Qatar to be without energy, for example? This will be a return to the Stone Age for them. Well, let the sheikhs ride camels again and become a little wiser. When I was in the UAE, I imagined for a minute what it would be like there if the air conditioning was turned off for a day. It will be hell with 50 degree heat. It's the same in Qatar and Arabia. So they need to organize this hell, in the future it will be discouraging to send any Khattabs to us in the Caucasus.
  78. +1
    18 October 2015 05: 14
    Test, just a test
  79. mabelcr18
    -2
    18 October 2015 05: 39
    Test, just a test
  80. +1
    18 October 2015 11: 34
    Everything will increase as events progress. Russia will become the center of the new military bloc. She will always support her allies with weapons and humanitarian aid. We have already gone through all this, but this is the second attempt and there will probably be fewer mistakes.
  81. 0
    18 October 2015 12: 34
    Quote: aleks700
    War? God forbid, no war. A counter-terrorist operation against supporters of terrorism - the Caspian flotilla seems to be not far away.
    A blow to Ankara? By NATO member country? In Saudi Arabia? Do not make me laugh.

    What if there are a series of terrorist attacks within countries using MANPADS? 3,14NDOS use such tactics, why are we worse?
  82. 0
    18 October 2015 13: 22
    Quote: BilliBoms09
    then Moscow will consider this fact as a direct complicity in terrorism, and the question will be raised in the UN Security Council,
    We must not consider, but act. There are special services and special forces for this.

    Compare with a declaration of war!
  83. 0
    18 October 2015 15: 23
    Everything is fine.
    Warned.
    Then: they receive an SMS - “You just have been evaporised!” crying
  84. 0
    18 October 2015 16: 18
    you and Russia's response move, and that it will definitely be a surprise for everyone...
  85. 0
    18 October 2015 20: 02
    everything is true, the main thing is that words do not diverge from deeds angry
  86. 0
    18 October 2015 20: 48
    Quote: Foxmara
    Quote: Thronekeeper
    will bring down transport sides if MANPADS

    3500-3800 ceiling for the stinger. This means - either on turntables, or at the time of landing take-off, and airports are guarded. Well, another su-25.
    Quote: Thronekeeper
    KSA so far believes that it is far away and it is under the protection of the United States, which for them could end badly.

    agree

    A little more, but with the removal of the self-liquidator somewhere up to 6-7 km
  87. +1
    18 October 2015 22: 54
    Well, against whom can MANPADS be used in Syria? ISIS doesn't have planes.
    If the Arabs have stingers, they will need to help the Americans against this hypothetical threat and hand over the Igla MANPADS to the Syrians.
    laughing
  88. mmk
    0
    19 October 2015 06: 47
    Political pleasantries!
  89. 0
    19 October 2015 09: 42
    I think it’s not even in the interests of the United States to turn Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Saudi Arabia into a piece of desert scorched by atomic decay... Although, Nostradamus foreshadowed the start of World War 3 from the Middle East...
  90. 0
    19 October 2015 11: 26
    In the context of an information war, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation needs to act proactively, in the event of receiving intelligence data about the transfer of MANPADS to terrorists fighting against the official government in Syria, it is necessary to carry out an information release about the use of MANPADS against an aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces with the following wording: “When performing an operation destroying a camouflaged terrorist command post near the city of Raqqa, a front-line bomber of the Russian Aerospace Forces SU-34 was fired upon. A total of 12 missiles were fired at the aircraft, presumably from man-portable anti-aircraft missile systems. Since the SU-34 is equipped with various systems to counter this type of weapon, "including electronic warfare systems, not a single missile reached its target. The aircraft successfully completed the mission and returned unharmed to the base in Latakia." Then you can show close-up footage with no damage to any Su-34 at the Base.
    And no one will check this information, and who cares that MANPADS against the Su-34 are not very effective, but how many points can you earn for yourself: the pilot is a hero, and Russia is invincible, and the planes are the best, and the suppliers of MANPADS are bad people, and so on.
  91. 0
    19 October 2015 12: 04
    The revealed fact of the appearance of MANPADS will once again poke the West into trouble. But I hope ours, in any case, will not fall below 5000. Moreover, a turning point in this conflict has already come; most likely, most of the warehouses with weapons, fuel and strongholds have been destroyed, and the fighting will move into an active ground phase with the enemy in dire need of ammunition. Yes, and soon there will be no one to supply anything; only scattered small gangs will remain, awaiting their unenviable fate.
  92. 0
    19 October 2015 12: 31
    BRAVO RUSSIAN FEDERATION, KEEP IT UP! soldier
  93. 0
    19 October 2015 13: 57
    In Ukraine, we supply extremists who fight against the government. And in Syria, the same extremists cannot be supplied just because we are on the other side there.
  94. 0
    19 October 2015 21: 38
    - what to guess? sooner or later the Basmachi will have a man-portable air defense system and there will be losses. Russia will be forced to take countermeasures and announce to the whole world who the true terrorists are. escalation of hostilities cannot be avoided, but the resonance will be enormous. No matter who says anything, I think that victory will belong to the forces of good, to Russia!
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  96. 0
    20 October 2015 09: 04
    This is the right decision!!!
    We warned seriously, and then let them wait and try to predict our actions in case of detection of MANPADS in some gang!
    Well done! OK!
  97. 0
    22 October 2015 13: 46
    Quote: Kil 31
    I want it to sound like a serious warning. ” The desire is good, but it's all bullshit. No one in the world will react. Even during the Soviet era, the Afghan showed "stingers" to the whole world, no one reacted. Everything was considered to be done correctly by fascington, because we are the aggressors. Now we are also considered the aggressor, bombing the democratic opposition

    You are absolutely wrong. Were similar statements made by the USSR at that time? No. This kind of pronouncement at the official level notice are not made in a vacuum. It's strange that you don't understand such things. The situation in the world has changed dramatically, which is why, in particular, Russian aviation flights over Syria and the launch of the Kyrgyz Republic from the Mediterranean Sea have become possible.