Russia is studying the issue of assisting Tajikistan in guarding the border with Afghanistan

The Russian military department does not exclude the resumption of participation in the protection of the Tajik-Afghan border due to the increased activity of Islamist terrorist formations, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov told Reuters.

201-I RVB, archival photo

“I do not exclude this,” the newspaper quotes Borisov. Look. - We, as you know, have a 201-I base there. Our political leaders will discuss (this issue) and decide. Everything is possible".

The publication reminds that in July, Vladimir Putin during a meeting with the Tajik leader Emomali Rahmon drew attention to the worsening situation in Afghanistan near the border with Tajikistan.

Prior to that, the RF Ministry of Defense announced the activation of the militants of the Taliban movement and the IG group in Afghanistan.

Help newspaper: “201-I military base is the largest military land object of Russia beyond its borders. The base numbers about 6 thous. Of military personnel stationed in garrisons on the outskirts of the Tajik cities of Dushanbe, Kurgan-Tyube and Kulyab. According to the 2012 agreement signed in October, the 201-I RNB remains in Tajikistan until at least 2042. ”

Comments

[inkass_98]

Here, in fact, there is nothing to discuss. We do not need an infection on the other side in any form: either religious or narcotic.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: inkass_98

Here, in fact, there is nothing to discuss. We do not need an infection on the other side in any form: either religious or narcotic.

Is there a hell to discuss there? Can't TajikStan secure its own border? Let him not blather about independence, but do what smart people say to him. And on the border with Afgan not 6 thousand are needed. There will be little 60. And in Central Asia as a whole with orange revolutions it will be calmer, if not 60, but 160 or 260 thousand there will be. To me, too, "sovereigns", blea ... Yesterday they got off the donkeys, they couldn't take a step without Russia, they begged all over the world, and there, "independence" itches ...

[Weigher]

One feels soon Uzbekistan will still ask for help.

[sa-ag]

Quote: Weigher

Uzbekistan will ask for help

this one will not

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: sa-ag

this one will not

Wait and see

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: sa-ag

Quote: Weigher

Uzbekistan will ask for help

this one will not

So, don’t get off the donkeys yet. Tear down - ask ...

[rustemkm]

I agree! Without Russia, this "independence" will be kicked off in no time!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Is there a hell to discuss there? Can't TajikStan secure its own border?

Maybe, but he doesn’t want to, the country is poor, they get kopeiki. On the border, the border guards themselves warm their hands well on traffic.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Maybe, but he doesn’t want to, the country is poor, they get kopeiki. On the border, the border guards themselves warm their hands well on traffic.

In Soviet times, it was almost possible to smuggle them from the Middle Ages into socialism. Maybe it will work out now. I saw it myself - the Soviet government, in our understanding, was not there either then, but there was a relative order. Buyers of various levels (from local authorities to the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Tajikistan) created the appearance of order. And the border was guarded, and the police somehow, but it was. And now - without borders - this is not a country - A territory inhabited by tribes ...

[marlin1203]

Indeed, what to discuss. We have already guarded it with the forces of our border troops. At the same time, they suffered losses under the Russian Federation (the Taliban attack on the Moskovskaya outpost, etc.). The question is, are we ready for this again. In any case, there is no hope for the "locals", they all "stay and work" in Moscow.

[Svetlana]

Quote: marlin1203

Indeed, what to discuss. We have already guarded it with the forces of our border troops. At the same time, they suffered losses under the Russian Federation (the Taliban attack on the Moskovskaya outpost, etc.). The question is, are we ready for this again. In any case, there is no hope for the "locals", they all "stay and work" in Moscow.

You are absolutely right. The matter, without a doubt, is necessary and important. Tajiks themselves can’t do it. But how will the security of our children from attacks from that side be ensured and will the officers be honest enough there to not substitute their subordinates? And then, you know, there are corrupt ones. They will let them through themselves, and ordinary soldiers - as you want, so fight back. We have already passed, in my opinion. God forbid, if now everything has changed and there are more patriots and just decent people.

[Oman 47]

Svetlana,
at the moment, in Tajikistan it is not about GUARDING the border (ensuring the border regime and regime at checkpoints), but rather about BORDER DEFENSE from invasion.
Such things are not carried out by PV, but rather large COMBINED formations with appropriate weapons.

[Lexa-149]

Sorry, which outpost was attacked? And the bungling of the command of the detachment and the outpost is to blame for this. Just so that it would not creep out, the tragedy was "wrapped in a beautiful candy wrapper" and made a legend. For some reason, almost nowhere is it mentioned that at this outpost, as a reinforcement, there was a BMP-48 117 Guards MSP.I " The hero "those who died, the guys were not given. They are silent about the fact that the soldier, who was a sentry of the border, made only a few shots from a machine gun and fled to the mountains, and then, his" Moscow "DShMG found in the mountains and a fighter was presented for a medal. They are also silent about vodka, which was later found in the back of the "shisharik" ... Much about which they are silent!
Some people may not like my words, but I didn’t invent them. All this was told to me by the participants of those events. I served 201 years in 8, of which 5 I spent at the border, reinforcing outposts. And with his unit in the spring of 2005, he was the last to leave the border with the entire 201st. A few days later, the outposts were transferred to the KOGG (RT State Border Protection Committee).
It was unpleasant and painful for me to hear the truth about those events, but the truth is true!

[Castor]

Quote: inkass_98

in no form: neither religious nor narcotic.

Not a terrorist one. The border must be "locked", unambiguously. And everyone who comes to us with a sword is obliged to get a shout!

[alekc73]

Right. After extruding our border guards, the Tajiks guarded the border like this: pay and go through.

[Roman1970]

Russia is studying the issue of assisting Tajikistan in guarding the border with Afghanistan

Yes, it’s not only a matter of terrorists. Drug trafficking is there - Mama Do not Cry. Hemp for a drug is not even considered. So strengthening the border will not be superfluous.

[A-Sim]

Again Russia. Where is the CSTO?

[AdekvatNICK]

smiling and waving

[vorobey]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

smiling and waving

Well, not really ... the air base in Kant will surely be attracted ... the Armenians have their own nuances on the border ... In Kazakhs, there is no need so far, but in the case of a direct threat, they will certainly attract everyone ... But the border needs to be strengthened .. and the principle if you want to do well do it yourself no one canceled ...

If the Taliban understand that the entrance is closed, they still have something to do there ... Americans sort of decided to wait a bit with a conclusion ..

[AdekvatNICK]

they won’t get away from it. Drug trafficking and arms trafficking. This is their cow. And all the same, they create the appearance of the fight against terrorism, but in fact they help in drug trafficking and weapons, having at the same time watching and eavesdropping everyone in the region.

[vorobey]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

This is their cow.

therefore, we need ours there as a counterweight ... and the Taliban have probably already understood how our aviation can work if they ... the good news in the east flies quickly and the bad news even faster ..

[AdekvatNICK]

We need a project to arrange borders across the bordering countries with Afghanistan. Only in this case there is a chance to move things forward.

P \ s, I generally get the impression that the Americans not only help traffic in the east, but also transport drugs in their transporters, large batches of drugs to their bases and from there everything goes to the consumer. And the money cuts and kills Europe and other countries.

Germany, because of its convenient location, is for drug dealers, as they say, a tidbit. And this country attracts them not only as a market for dangerous goods, but also as an opportunity for its further distribution throughout Europe.

[AdekvatNICK]

I don’t think that our aviation will scare them. They have deep holes. And nobody will risk losing hundreds of soldiers in Afghan operations on the ground.

[forester]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

but in fact they help in drug trafficking

They don’t help but control and oversee - in fact, THEM is THEIR business

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: vorobey

Americans sort of decided to wait with a conclusion ..

There will be entertainment for the Taliban, and "plastics" for America. As they say, nothing personal, I just remembered Ashton Carter's "wishes" to Russian pilots and civilians. Allaverdy, Carter!

[Manul]

Quote: A-Sim

Again Russia. Where is the CSTO?

This is very good. Our influence and authority are increasing. CSTO is not as beautiful as the USSR, but still ..

[Oman 47]

The Tajik-Afghan border is like a heavy suitcase without a handle.
And it’s impossible to quit (the fire will reach Russia), and to drag is difficult and expensive.

[teron]

All right. But still, if we give up, then in the end it will be harder and more expensive.

[skyyl]

A very important area, because worse than the Madjahideen of the current Ishil, which is comparable with fascism.

[Million]

Help is needed! Otherwise, all blackness will be with us

[morpogr]

History goes in a spiral and here we are again on the threshold of Afghanistan.

[udincev]

Quote: morpogr

History goes in a spiral and here we are again on the threshold of Afghanistan.

Therefore, the actions of the USSR in Afghanistan would not hurt from afar and overestimate, taking into account the development of events and becoming known. A proper assessment must be given, not from the perspective of pro-Americans.

[gukoyan]

Strengthening will only be a plus .. there we can stop ISIS and stop drug trafficking and once again show that we are a strong superpower that is able to protect ourselves and our interests.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

This is a matter of paramount importance ... the United States seems to be going to build up its group in Afghanistan (today the news slipped through) And where are they, there are provocations of war and blood! Now we grind these devils in Syria, but some of us can run to us ... So it’s better meet them in Tajikistan!

[AdekvatNICK]

Barack Obama decided to save by the end of 2016 the country's military contingent in Afghanistan numbering 9,8 thousand people. This was reported by an employee of the US Department of State to the American edition of the Associated Press.

The reduction of military forces to five and a half thousand people will occur at the end of 2016. Now in Afghanistan, nearly ten thousand American troops are based.

[_umka_]

It's time, drug trafficking at least overlap.

[dojjdik]

anyway, they will incite these muhamors against us, therefore, the Tajiks, Turkmens and Kirghiz, must be mobilized into the service to protect their own borders; well, we will cover them with what is needed and the latest weapons and not, as in 79, in Afghanistan, "limited contingent" and other idiocy

[ZU-23]

It's time to put the Sunshine there and all that, since they are not at all hot.

[Bully]

Afghanistan has a border in the north with Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. Is there something quiet and smooth?

[Velya]

Quote: Oman 47

The Tajik-Afghan border is like a heavy suitcase without a handle.
And it’s impossible to quit (the fire will reach Russia), and to drag is difficult and expensive.

You speak the truth, brother-pogranets.

[star44]

Culling is easy. But to recreate what was destroyed 5 - 7 years ago ... Before the withdrawal of Tajik-Afghan. the border was guarded and defended by 5 pogo + units and reinforcement and reserve units. And this is not less than 201 WB. All units, units and formations had their own barracks and housing stock, a cat. after the collapse of the Soviet Union, it was supported, not repaired. We can only guess what has become of him now. In difficult living conditions, a "serving" conscript is much better and more enduring than a "working" contract soldier (I think a specialist will understand the difference). So the decision to protect the border by the structures of the RF Military Commission will cost, to put it mildly, not very cheap. And this is without recreating the logistics and operational support. Moreover, the formation of the latter is not so much money as time and years ... Although a lot of money is needed. And whoever will pay for social benefits for employees there (in the present time those who fought there in the 90s and were even awarded military awards cannot receive a WBD certificate. Even Heroes received this status due to participation in Chechnya). And again the question arises - at whose expense this "banquet" ... Although I completely agree: it is necessary to strictly fence off the southern chaos. I am afraid of only one thing: the state will not break down, as in the 90s.

[V.ic]

Quote: Star44

I am afraid of only one thing: the state will not tear, as in the 90s.

In the 90s, the state did not overstrain, it (the USSR) was simply stupidly taken away by the "scattered" and local zealots of "independence", who suddenly turned into oligarchs and "fathers of the nation".

[star44]

In this case, I’ll clarify in short - betrayed and sold. But this will not change the final result ... Unfortunately ...

[BOB044]

Let's be honest there our border. If something starts there, it will blaze in the center of Russia. Friends in quotes will help to light a fire.

[tomsk]

here again Russia take a shower ... guard the neighbors who jumped and were glad that they had left the union. without Russia they will die and degrade. all their culture will go under the knife of the Ishil as in Syria. are they really so stupid ?! again the death of our guys, our gene pool on foreign borders ?! how our former friends got it !!!

[kizhe]

There is no choice. We will not defend ourselves, others will stand up. Only to protect it.

[tomsk]

but for me, we need our old and tested iron curtain again. so that no bastard could penetrate

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Tomsk

but for me, we need our old and tested iron curtain again. so that no bastard could penetrate

The thing was on the one hand! The children's souls were pure and carefree ... Alas, now this will not work, you need to wet the hornet's nest, and not close it! Our generation has allowed this, we will have to figure it out!

[wild]

Ay yay yay, what about heroin ????? That’s the trouble that the Tajiks come from where they didn’t call etozh teperich how to conduct drug couriers they will ???? The chef is all gone, the plaster is removed.

[ilyaches]

But what to think and reason, to help unambiguously. We need to strengthen our presence in this region 100%. Stop the flow of drugs, extreme people and all that.

[Vladimir]

I believe the issue is not being studied, but has already been resolved unambiguously, it would not be wise to fight against the Islamists in Syria, while not paying attention to the southern borders, or rather to the states adjacent to the territory of Russia.

[skifrus]

Not everything is so simple .... no one can clear the border there except for us, it’s not even discussed ... but we always had pv in the elite, and the school was kept good ... there is no such approach to training in border protection no one ...

[skifrus]

We always went over the river, even when it was impossible .....

[Lexa-149]

After the Perdyukovsky reform and optimization, the 201msd were chopped up and mowed. Then they disbanded the SMEs and turned the battalions into brigades. Pardon, the unfortunate bath-and-laundry factory of the regiment, became a SEPARATE MILITARY PART !!! All the excess equipment was transferred to the Ministry of Defense of the RT. But the Tajiks refused to accept the trash that the regiments wanted to push. I had to pass the serviceable on time. It is not difficult to guess what remains with us. At the time of 2012 in, then still a separate GSADn (from 149 guards.msp), there was ONE banner for 18 sau 2s3 !!! I generally keep quiet about the condition of the cars! The machines themselves fought in Afghanistan as part of 998AP.A before this ferrous metal from 191msp they brought to Kulyab, two divisions of serviceable 2s1 (which traveled more than one border with Afghanistan) were handed over to the Tajiks. They handed over the transport ... Almost nothing was brought there after the abolition of the brigades and the restoration of the SMEs. Auto-dressing medroty - a kung on wheels. Rot! Running killed! There are no medical entrails! And so, almost everywhere where you can’t poke around. If before the l / s of vacationers the regiment transported to the airport (it used to be under armed guard), now everyone gets their own way. Patients in the hospital in Dushanbe, and this is almost 300 km? OWN GO !!! What can I say, even if there is no promedol in the medrot of the regiment in the state !!! And what happened, what to save?! At the moment, to the regiments, God grant me strength and enough funds to protect themselves in the territory of the unit!
And you say ...

[Roust]

In any case, they will have to be protected, but by the second echelon, having given the honor of guarding their borders to the local ones at the first positions closer to the border.