In the US, demonstrated the latest modification of "Abrams"

General Dynamic Corporation for the first time demonstrated in Washington at the exhibition AUSA 2015 the latest modification tank M1 Abrams - a variant of M1A2 SEP v.3, reports the blog bmpd with reference to armyrecognition.com.

According to the resource, the main differences of the M1A2 SEP v.3 modification from the previous one (SEP v.2) are:

“An introduction to the ammunition of a new 120-mm sub-caliber armor-piercing projectile M829EX4 (M829A4) of enhanced armor penetration.

- Introduction of the Advanced Multi-Purpose (AMP) ХМ120 type "High Explosive Multi-Purpose with Tracer - HEMP-T) with a programmable fuze to the ammunition package of the new 1147-mm multipurpose shot. Thus, unification of the tank ammunition will be achieved on the basis of just two shots - the multipurpose ХМ1147 AMP and the armored-piercing sabot M829E4 AKE.

- Modernization of the tank fire control system with the installation of Ammunition Data Link equipment (ADL), which allows firing AMP shots with a programmable fuse.

- Installation of new thermal imaging devices IFLIR in the gunner’s sight and independent commander’s panoramic sight, with an image output on high-definition displays.

- Installation of the Commander's Remote Operated Weapon Station Low Profile (CROWS-LP) remotely controlled by the commander of the tank onto the roof of the turret of the tank with the 12,7-mm MXXUMX machine gun. The module is equipped with a round-the-clock surveillance and aiming system, which allows it to be used as the actual second panoramic sight of a tank crew. ”

It is assumed that the upgrade to the level of SEP v.3 will begin in the next fiscal year. For these purposes, an amount of $ 367,9 million has been budgeted for.

Comments

[Velizariy]

Serdyukov would envy the chinory there)

[Baikonur]

They are trying to raise the "face" from the mud after the apercut with the "armature"! Like our new Abrams (which RPGs can slam) is also not a bastard! + file the dough!

[marlin1203]

I understand everything, weight over 60 tons, sandwich armor and all that ... But doesn’t this dynamic trough need dynamic protection?

[st25310]

There is no shell capable of hitting ARMATU!

[st25310]

Who is the minus? Deputy Director Khalitov told you in Russian that there is no shell capable of hitting ARMATU! Or do you know him better?

[kocclissi]

It’s probably hard to come up with something new, when everything new has been invented before ........

[sa-ag]

Quote: st25310

Deputy Director Khalitov told you in Russian that there is no shell capable of hitting ARMATU!

Did they try to break through its depleted uranium core?

[pilot bin-bom]

Have you tried a subcaliber of depleted uranium at a distance of a direct shot?
if not, why la-la.

[Vadim237]

Well, this can be calculated by knowing the thickness, tensile strength of the armor, impact strength, speed, mass, strength and diameter of the OBPS.

[Bird the Talker]

very rarely can one hear, so competently submitted commentary, respect to Halitov.

[NEXUS]

Quote: marlin1203

I understand everything, weight over 60 tons, sandwich armor and all that ... But doesn’t this dynamic trough need dynamic protection?

And I already thought that the negro-loader was also modernized. And the engine of the tower was left. A good target for a simple and tested RPG-7.

[RBLip]

Quote: NEXUS

And I already thought that the Negro-loader is also being modernized.

also the first thought was - the blacks were sent to retire, now they scored new ones ...

[abrakadabre]

No, they were upgraded - everyone was given a free membership to the rocking chair.

[figter]

NEXUS
And I already thought that the negro-loader was also modernized. And the engine of the tower was left. A good target for a simple and tested RPG-7.

Will Negro-DMN-M (Long Arm with a Motor in an EN Place)?

[Aqela]

Oh, how are you kidding blacks-loaders

[vorobey]

Quote: marlin1203

But is this trough really not needed dynamic protection?

why is it not so bad burning ...
RPG 29 grinned ..., and winked at "Competition" .. - The nut of knowledge will help us to crack the news magazine I want to know everything ...

[Karlovar]

They are imprisoned under the Papuans with bows ....

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Karlovar

They are imprisoned under the Papuans with bows ....

The tank is not bad, too far-stained, but not bad. You can minus.

[vorobey]

Quote: Vladimirets

You can minus.

Well, for the time being, I’m allowing you for a compass .. Hi Zheka ..

[Vladimirets]

Quote: vorobey

Well, for the time being, I’m allowing you for a compass ..

Sanya, you are allowed to slap two by status. Great.

Quote: vorobey

and he also knows how to fly, judging by the movie "team A" and swim under water

At least he is clearly no worse than the T-72B3.

[SSeT]

But I won’t! really good, and the new modification, whatever the sofa cap-kickers would say, really strengthened the already good opportunities

[Corsair]

Quote: Vladimirets

The tank is not bad, too far-stained, but not bad.

and he also knows how to fly, judging by the movie "team A" and swim under water, although the colonel was too smart and inventive there, it is doubtful that the amers would have such ...

http://vk.com/video54566323_168165762 вот здесь отрывок

[Zai pali]

Quote: Vladimirets

Quote: Karlovar

They are imprisoned under the Papuans with bows ....

The tank is not bad, too far-stained, but not bad. You can minus.

I don’t think he would have been popular in the big tank war. The problem is that it is not expected.

[Observer2014]

In the US, demonstrated the latest modification of "Abrams"
And the black man that shoves manually, the shells in the gun also upgraded ?!

[Shurik70]

Quote: marlin1203

I understand everything, weight over 60 tons, sandwich armor and all that ... But doesn’t this dynamic trough need dynamic protection?

So all American strategies come from the fact that they will shoot and kill, and opponents will shoot from the muskets.

[Lissyara]

In! In! And I mean too. Product 6G3 (among the common people RPG-7 "shaitan pipe") worth 120 bucks "cheers" against a six-mile machine.

[Starover_Z]

Either the article is stingy or the translation is incomplete:
And where is the PR?
Where are the phrases about invincibility and determination to destroy other people's tanks,
in particular, "Armata" with one shot?

[northern]

And did the negros charge, too, a new, shortened sub-caliber?

[ejov1976]

We wanted to spit on your abrams ...

[Semen Semyonitch]

Two girls sat on the roof and spat on passers-by ... One is good, the other is bad ... The bad hit 3 times, and the good 5 .... And because good always wins ...

[Baloo]

And I like, a good target, it will burn beautifully

[PSih2097]

Quote: Baikonur

Type our new Abrams (which RPG can slam)

DShK in the aft of the tower ...

[avg]

For these purposes, the budget includes an amount of $ 367,9 million.

It would be more correct to write: "To begin with, for these purposes the budget includes an amount of $ 367,9 million."

[KazaK Bo]

avg. It would be more correct to write: "To begin with, for these purposes the budget includes an amount of $ 367,9 million."

Those who know this topic - and HOW MUCH IS THIS TANK COST NOW ... If memory serves, it used to cost about 10 "lemons" ... And now? And how many buyers will this tank have now? After all, the "combat life" of the tank is very short in battle ...
How is the "PRICE-QUALITY" ratio here ???
... or else, I'm sorry, but for now only slogans ..

[Lissyara]

Boris, well, 10 you zagged. The previous "modelki" cost 6 lyamas, + - 200 thousand "raccoons".

[Basarev]

They call the projectile and sight a modification?

[Sid.74]

Some kind of nonsense, controlled commander module and immediately open machine gun with a very leaky stitcher.

[SSeT]

And in your opinion, a scrap of a NEW generation with radically increased penetration, a multi-mode programmable OFS SERIAL NEW generation, the best of the available thermal imager and DBM with duplication of gearboxes - is that not a STRONG modification ?? It gives a lot of quality enhancements, by the way, this is not an ala T72B3 craft
Think at least sometimes what you write, if, of course, the thinker has already grown

[SSeT]

This is an additional option, negro-pitching on patrols to protect and block posts. 2 remote machine guns and 4 eyes are always better than the 1st and 1st pair of eyes! So-and-so (well, a black man is not so sorry as a commander, therefore only a visor)

[SSeT]

Quote: SSeT

This is an additional option, negro-pitching on patrols to protect and block posts. 2 remote machine guns and 4 eyes are always better than the 1st and 1st pair of eyes! So-and-so (well, a black man is not so sorry as a commander, therefore only a visor)

[ejov1976]

pobayayu)) This box is worth MILLIONS of Amer Rubles and makes its way through and several thousand of them and how many different Soviet-Russian tanks in the same RF))))))? Tens of thousands and everything from 34 RCTs is in excellent condition. Take off the monument and go into battle.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

But there is no active defense system. What will happen when a direct hit ATGM Cornet or RPG-29,32?

[SSeT]

And reinforced armor, especially with PPS and the new OFS, is just against them. Like new thermal imagers. They change the application concept, hence such changes and the lack of KAZ

[A-Sim]

Sawing beetles. This coffin will bring dividends to their grandchildren.

[Sasha 19871987]

Well, I don’t know, I prefer the photo of BURNING ABRAMS ...

[lelikas]

Quote: A-Sim

Sawing beetles. This coffin will bring dividends to their grandchildren.

And not small - they still need, at least, remote sensing kits.

[clidon]

DZ kits for "Abrams" are installed only in urban modernization and on the sides - the forehead is already thick there. But something like "Trophy" is easy.

[lelikas]

Quote: clidon

DZ kits for "Abrams" are installed only in urban modernization and on the sides - the forehead is already thick there. But something like "Trophy" is easy.

Of course. Maybe they’ll finish their Quick Kill.

[dvina71]

Quote: clidon

DZ kits for "Abrams" are installed only in urban modernization and on the sides - the forehead is already thick there

EMNIP vld at him 90mm .. or whatever his detail is called in which the hatch is a mechanical drive. This detail is invulnerable to a projectile fired from the same plane with an abrams, but if you shoot from above .., and this is two fingers on the asphalt in the city.

[Albert1988]

Quote: dvina71

or whatever his detail is called in which the hatch is a mechanical drive.

VLD - she is the most darling.

Quote: dvina71

he has 90mm wld ..

Not only she - in principle, his tower roof is very cardboard, that is, it is very easy to break through it with a mounted fire (or fire in the upper floors of buildings), given the huge tower roof area. So no matter how you upgrade this car, it is unlikely that you can seriously improve its characteristics.

[clidon]

Any tank has its own weakened zones and they are generally well known. But in general, there the forehead of the tower and the NLD are very, very serious

[Albert1988]

Quote: clidon

Any tank has its own weakened zones and they are generally well known. But in general, there the forehead of the tower and the NLD are very, very serious

Of course, the Abrashi lobeshnik is equivalent to like 900 mm of homogeneous steel, and NLD, if the memory is not changed, is equivalent to 600 mm. The problem is different - on existing machines, such zones are well known to everyone, and most importantly it is not possible to fundamentally increase their protection - a new tank is needed (armata is bish))))

[clidon]

If we take into account the general attitude in the states towards tanks, I don’t think that they will have something new in service before the year 2030.

[Albert1988]

Quote: clidon

I don’t think that they will have something new in service before the year 2030

If not later ...

[SSeT]

It is reinforced with him, if not noticed. Yes, the conception has changed - now he will not climb on the erpoghe and ptursa from the upper floors

[Albert1988]

Quote: SSeT

It is reinforced with him, if not noticed.

All the same, it will not be possible to greatly increase the thickness of the NLD in the case of Abrams, and the roof of the tower, apparently, if reinforced, then not significantly (otherwise the height of the tower would have grown very noticeably), so it is unlikely that amers will be able to completely eliminate this deficiency on the Abrams. And the great danger will be not so much ATGMs from the upper floors in the city, as the appearance of roof-fighters ala "javelin" or "spike" among us and our allies, and this should not be completely ruled out.

[Sukhoi]

Introduction to the ammunition of the new 120-mm sub-caliber armor-piercing projectile M829EX4 (M829A4) of enhanced armor penetration.

- Introduction of the Advanced Multi-Purpose (AMP) ХМ120 type "High Explosive Multi-Purpose with Tracer - HEMP-T) with a programmable fuze to the ammunition package of the new 1147-mm multipurpose shot. Thus, unification of the tank ammunition will be achieved on the basis of just two shots - the multipurpose ХМ1147 AMP and the armored-piercing sabot M829E4 AKE.

And they no longer need a cumulative shell?

[voyaka uh]

The multi-purpose projectile has a cumm. But she’s not against MBT,
but against lightly armored targets and concrete.
Anti-tank cumm shells now almost stopped
apply in tanks. Their power with caliber 120-125 mm is not
enough to overcome the frontal armor of modern MBT.

[Sukhoi]

But what about the ATGM? They are not all 152mm

[voyaka uh]

ATGMs - not less than 150 mm.
RPGs are usually smaller in caliber, but they have frontal armor
they don’t take it anymore: from the side there, from below, from behind ...

The Americans already in the 1st Iraqi had only OBPS
in the ammunition tank.

[Sukhoi]

Attack and Whirlwind at 130mm. And they are not considered obsolete, as I understand it.
RPGs 29,30,32 on 105 mm (700-750 mm homogeneous without DZ) - these also do not take?

[voyaka uh]

750 mm
And the equivalent of the armor of the forehead of the tower and the body of Abrams from the COP is about 900 mm

[Sukhoi]

Ok, with RPG everything is clear.
Reflex-M - 900mm without DZ. Thus, the Attack and the Whirlwind should be even deeper.

[SSeT]

So no one will be saved from heavy birds, IF they get, but! they are damped by interference quite simply now. I think it’s not in vain that these interesting diplomatic boxes appeared on his face :)
So shta ... don't flatter yourself

[just exp]

cumulative artillery guns were always inferior to ATGMs of the same caliber in penetration, I don’t remember the details, but it’s something like the warhead of an ATGM is longer, since a projectile has a caliber (funnel width) that comes closer to the end of the projectile, whereas a missile the full gauge width immediately follows the fairing.

[Sukhoi]

cumulative artillery guns were always inferior to ATGMs of the same caliber in penetration, I don’t remember the details, but it’s something like the warhead of an ATGM is longer, since a projectile has a caliber (funnel width) that comes closer to the end of the projectile, whereas a missile the full gauge width immediately follows the fairing.

interesting remark. Reflex - 900mm, 3BK31 - 800mm.
Those. voyaka uh actually right. Promising shells (for the T-14) keep in mind, but no more.

PS Although the questions did not end))) If the length is cum. a shell affects armor penetration, why not increase it? Subcaliber lengthen and nothing.

[Sukhoi]

I'll argue with myself :
Perhaps it is easier to defend against cumulative ammunition - DZ, lattices, screens, composite armor, etc. ATGM easier to kill with KAZ than BOPS.

[SSeT]

EXACTLY! You have come to the absolutely correct conclusion - this, by the way, served as a refusal by the amans from tank cops - they are no longer needed now, in such a caliber, from the word at all. There is a funnel in the universal OFS, but it is only for LBT and wall break!

[Sukhoi]

Is this a global trend, or just an American feature?

[dvina71]

Quote: SSeT

In the universal OFS, the cum funnel is

Nuka tell me, can it be a caress, how can this kumvoronka help against concrete walls? And then a shell is a miracle ... and BT crumbles into small cabbage and breaks through walls .. and all with one shell ..

[clidon]

She breaks through such walls. Speeds then what expiration ...

[dvina71]

Quote: Sukhoi

Perhaps it’s easier to defend against cumulative ammunition - remote sensing, gratings, screens

This is all and still AB on the tank there is up to the first 120mm landmine next to the tank .. So to refuse a projectile that does not lose its power from a distance .. is ridiculous somehow .. This is everything for an American .. became and shoot a bunch of commies crawling at you ..and the best thermal imager to help ..
Russian fight differently .. and I must say more successfully than others.

[stephan cat]

Art. a thick-walled shell, which must withstand huge overloads when fired without irreversible deformations. The ATGM has a relatively thin-walled body, accordingly, more "useful" volume is occupied by explosives. Those. by the caliber of the ammunition, you can draw some conclusions, but you need to take into account the features ...

[cth; fyn]

But their marines were lucky, they had not yet switched to Abrams, and they had an office on their M-60

[Disant]

why so. I think a cumulative shell with a triple cumulative charge ..
"Start-2" with the help of a triple cumulative charge pierces up to 660 mm of armor for the built-in dynamic protection or 680 mm for the mounted. the body in the front projection is weak

[Disant]

what about
- cutout in the mask of the gun under the head of the driver’s mechanic (thickness about 300mm).
- The cutout between the hull and the tower: represented by the lower frontal part of the tower, going up to the shoulder strap (the thickness gradually decreases from 850mm to 300mm.
- gun mask itself
- frontal projection of the body
quite a cumulative projectile should be enough to break through

[sinukvl]

Is this the answer to our "Armata", to comfort your pride? Do not console me, as you call the yacht so it will float (Abrams is named after General Clayton Abrams, Our Armata bears the name not only of the Russian weapon, but also translated from the Turkic as "the power of the fathers", and in many European languages ​​it is translated as army, armada)

[kil 31]

It is assumed that the upgrade to the level of SEP v.3 will begin in the next fiscal year. For these purposes, an amount of $ 367,9 million has been budgeted for.

Somehow not enough, I'm used to hearing numbers in yards from them. It didn’t even reach the floor of the yard.

[yushch]

<!--QuoteBegin killer 31 -> Quote: killer 31 [quote] Assuming
It is expected that upgrades to SEP v.3 will begin next fiscal year. For these purposes, the budget includes an amount of $ 367,9 million. [/ Quote] Something is not enough, I'm used to hearing numbers in yards from them. It didn’t even reach the floor of the yard. [/ Quote]

This is to ensure that the Senate Committee on Defense of the loaves of bread relaxes, and as it relaxes, they will be planted with the most tomatoes in numbers in yards. They are virtuoso sawflies, our sawflies are suckers compared to them.

[SSeT]

For it’s really modernization, they haven’t been producing NEWs for a long time - they are sawing old ones at a single tank factory. BUT! they do it very efficiently, there is a real conveyor belt, everything is debugged to the smallest detail, the cost is like a Renault factory. There 90% of the amount for a new kit goes. And the series is not voiced 370 lyamov say for a hundred - and not cheap at all

[stephan cat]

Yes, American comrades made a whole film about modernization. Everything is fine, but, here's an interesting question: if they no longer produce tank engines for the Abrams since the late 90s, but constantly repair and restore them ... what is their resource ?! Or are they still producing new engines?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: keel 31

Somehow not enough, I'm used to hearing numbers in yards from them. It didn’t even reach the floor of a yard

Dear Kil 31, you just inattentively read the message :)

Quote: keel 31

It is expected that upgrades to SEP v.3 will begin next fiscal year.

Those. - will begin next year, 2016. But in what year it will end, not a word is said

Quote: keel 31

For these purposes, the budget includes an amount of $ 367,9 million.

Those. in 2016, they will spend 367,9 million. And in subsequent years?
How many tanks are they going to modify in 2016? 1000? 300? One and a half?

[kil 31]

Andrei from Chelyabinsk

Those. in 2016 they will spend 367,9 million. And in subsequent years, how many tanks are they going to modify in 2016? 1000? 300? One and a half

Well yes. I didn’t think how many tanks the money was. Another thought came to me. How much money was allocated from the budget to factories for the invention of new electronics and ammunition. It was not for their money that they decided to invent new equipment and ammunition. They received an order and money from the Pentagon. That would know the amount.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

How many tanks are they going to modify in 2016? 1000? 300? One and a half?

We clearly know what will happen in 2020, and they are all silent ...

[lelikas]

Quote: sinukvl

Is this the answer to our "Armata", to comfort your pride?

It’s even a pity that they are not Ukrainians — they would already have read that their new projectile is breaking everything that moves! and what doesn’t move - the tank moves and breaks through! .

[jjj]

Quote: lelikas

It’s even a pity that they are not Ukrainians — they would already have read that their new projectile is breaking everything that moves! and what doesn’t move - the tank moves and breaks through! .

They have everything in the subject. No words needed

[Longmire]

Quote: sinukvl

This is the answer to our "Armata", to console your vanity

is it a planned modernization, and by the way, how old have Armat, 2.5 prototypes already been riveted there?

[avt]

Quote: Longmire

is it a planned modernization, and by the way, how old have Armat, 2.5 prototypes already been riveted there?

Do not swagger, there will be enough of the maydown banderlogs that the militias have selected and repaired, but this is not for the Ukrainians, for a more serious enemy - we will be in time, we will finish it and put it in a series.

[Scoun]

Quote: Longmire

Quote: sinukvl

This is the answer to our "Armata", to console your vanity

is it a planned modernization, and by the way, how old have Armat, 2.5 prototypes already been riveted there?

How dare you write something about Americans in a positive way ?! You are a sent "Cossack", it is only we who have the right to modernize the T-72 and this is not a cut, but a modernization. ++))
And you spoil your karma with ur comment quack quack crackers)))
No ** I, Americans should sit down, cry. put your hands down with the words ahh! the Russians have "Armata" and we have fucked up all the polymers! At the same time, tactfully keeping silent that in the near future the Armat, like the T-90 with a gulkin nose and a main battle tank in various modifications (and not always successful), remains the T-72.

Damn, at such a pace, I’ll soon jump to trolling utryakryalok)))

[Altona]

Quote: Scoun

No ** I, Americans should sit down, cry. put your hands down with the words ahh! the Russians have "Armata" and we have fucked up all the polymers! At the same time, tactfully keeping silent that in the near future the Armat, like the T-90 with a gulkin nose and a main battle tank in various modifications (and not always successful), remains the T-72.

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Yes, everything is fine, the Americans’s most beautiful tank, just let it ride off the highway and climb into our non-chernozem region, loam in the Middle Lane, see how this railway wagon (by weight) on the tracks works ...

[Major Yurik]

Quote: Longmire

Quote: sinukvl

This is the answer to our "Armata", to console your vanity

is it a planned modernization, and by the way, how old have Armat, 2.5 prototypes already been riveted there?

Enough for you, just keep in mind - TANKS OF KLOPA DO NOT CRUSH!

[Albert1988]

Quote: Longmire

how quickly have Armat, 2.5 prototypes already been riveted there?

At least 10 pieces, if we have in mind the T-14 tank, and in general there are ten cars based on the "Armata" 3)))

[Maksus]

All the same, the Americans are still strong; it’s too early to take them off. Everything is their way - and the tanks are upgraded and the army is at war. They will not give peace to the world ...

[vovanpain]

They’ll upgrade the tanks, but they’ll either fight from afar or with the wrong hands, but they don’t have to put their caps on, you are right.

[Maksus]

About "by the wrong hands"here, yes, you can't argue. But in"from afar"I don't see anything wrong. A living soldier is better than a dead one, isn't it?

[Cananecat]

Then v4; v5; v6 ... the relatively fair selection of dough from Congress continues.

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

And what do we have, t72 B3 B4 B5 ????

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

And what do we have, t72 B3 B4 B5 ????

Well, why else B1, G1, D1 .. etc.

[gukoyan]

I see them thieves in the open already grandmas begin to steal))

[Gormenghast]

Something announced improvements do not pull on a new modification.

And, most importantly, all modifications - as you can easily see - are offensive in nature, which confirms the essentially aggressive and militaristic nature of the United States.

[X Y Z]

A cart for colonial wars and heavy cutting of dough. Other use is not intended.

[demo]

Interestingly, does the tank meet California requirements in terms of nitrogen oxide content in its exhaust?
Or only Volkswagen for 18 lard can be shod.

[tihon4uk]

The turret with a machine gun could be made smaller, more compact.

[Denis DV]

And most importantly, they feel that this is the latest version of the tank

[clidon]

Why the last one? Abrams M1A3 will be easy too. It is unlikely that in the next 10 years a completely new tank will be adopted there.

[K-50]

According to the resource, the main differences between the modification of M1A2 SEP v.3 from the previous one (SEP v.2) are

Without KAZ and dynamic protection all this is just firewood

[clidon]

They put DZ on the sides, KAZ (Trophy applicant number 1) will also be easy, it’s not difficult to integrate it.
Our tanks now also do not have KAZ.

[Vadim237]

Like new shells - this new OBPS for Abrams is likely to break all of our dynamic defense systems

[Rurikovich]

As far as I know, Abrams have not been produced in the FSA for many years. Everything is geared towards modernizing what is available. For this, there are two factories, on one they are dismantled to screws, on the other they are assembled and improved. Even after the battles, everything that remains of the tank is collected and removed. And in order to reduce the number of these tanks, it is necessary to knock out so that the main elements of the hull and turret do not lend themselves to restoration. Only then will the tank be considered destroyed, then restoration will be more expensive than production. They are capitalists, and they love counting money

[Monos]

Well, why be sure to chicken? Just leave the battlefield behind you. Scrap metal is also useful to us.

[Rurikovich]

It is also an option

[ratfly]

I opened the article with alarm, expecting a lot of dirty tricks, but with relief I saw only changes in the body kit and the unification of ammunition for a lot of loot ...

[clidon]

Modernization is the same. Of the most significant, there are actually new ammunition.

[Longmire]

Quote: ratfly

I was anxiously opening an article

and the tank itself does not cause alarm? Do you throw your hats?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Longmire

Do you throw your hats?

In large fields.

[dsi]

Poplar also does not roll on the road. He needs goals.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: dsi

Poplar also does not roll on the road. He needs goals.

The whole continent in the form of a target.

[dsi]

The whole continent in the form of a target.

Is not a fact. The target is for mercenaries, etc. etc. How shallow you think ...

[dsi]

I need to clarify something ...

[Albert1988]

Quote: Longmire

Do you throw your hats?

BOPS ...

[bmv04636]

Interesting Negro loader still left. And Che didn’t understand KAZ. No Jews clamped?

[rubidium]

something the sum does not inspire ...

[IAlex]

A good tank, though a bit old, but it has already been tested and has participated in many conflicts ...

[bocsman]

Interestingly, they removed their notorious additional generator from the rear of the tower ?!

[Th1nker]

Removed from the time of the first version of the M1A2 SEP, the APU was removed from the turret basket, due to its high vulnerability, and an option was developed to install a new auxiliary unit (Under Armor Auxiliary Power Unit) in the fenders on the left side. At the moment, the project has not been implemented and the tanks are supplied only with an additional battery, which allows the tank to function for up to 10 hours in "silent" mode.

[McLuha-MacLeod]

All their tankers are already sick from their tank depleted uranium armor

[IAlex]

Well, passengers and Boeing pilots have not yet complained ...

[Vadim237]

But the armor does not fonit and shells, too, so they have nothing to hurt.

[Mikhail Krapivin]

It will burn like a darling ...

[3 Gorynych]

Judging by the picture, because of this, even a loser will not miss! A good target ..

[mpzss]

most importantly, they did not write anything about armor protection ... either they darken or just made a new body kit, added two types of shells (and I think they are quite expensive) and now they ask for money!

[Persifal]

I do not understand. Where are guided missiles? Where is the dynamic protection? Where is the active defense? Some kind of coffin ...

[JonnyT]

against t-xnumx prepared. unpleasant news of a new shot ...

[Engineer]

I’ll tell you more: all the tank’s shots before that were designed specifically to destroy Soviet, and now Russian, in short, Russian tanks.

[Engineer]

A remote-controlled combat module appeared on an American tank !!!! After 35 years, he still appeared.

[Bort radist]

The news appeared at one of the factories of the Leningrad Region invented paint. BMP and tank become invisible to radars and thermal imagers.

[SSeT]

And also for the eyes! and the smell of logan is indistinguishable!
Believe these tales less - such "paint" has been invented every 3 years for 30 years (actually 70 - before that it was "radiation-protective-absorbing")

[sinnik80]

As I understand it, the charger remains with them? Automatic loading is not provided?

[evil partisan]

As I understand it, they have already decided on Ukrin that they will be delivered to the Armed Forces of Ukraine first . For nothing .

[Baloo]

I doubt the Macington macaques are dumb, but not so much. Again, the geyropa asks and asks for tanks, planes ... such as protect, protect ...

[Aleksey_K]

Good photo. Visitors to the exhibition are not at all interested in modernization, which is difficult to evaluate or touch. Everyone is standing with their backs to Abrams. Another thing is the demonstration in Nizhny Tagil. Everything is clearly visible: speed, maneuver, fire and accuracy, and at the same time the flight of the tank.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Алексей_К

Everything is clearly visible: speed, maneuver, fire and accuracy, and at the same time the flight of the tank.

If Abrash takes off, after landing, they will not only collect bolts and nuts, but also scrape off the crew with the loader from the walls. Although I think it will be easier to paint over.

[Vadim237]

Abrams at least does not fly apart when an ATGM gets into it, unlike our tanks.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vadim237

Abrams at least does not fly apart when an ATGM gets into it, unlike our tanks.

But the turret’s engine is easily damaged by one shot from an RPG-7. They say that a large-caliber machine gun of 14,5 mm flashes the armor that protects the turret’s engine.
And about our tanks "scatter", so in war as in war. Do you think that this is an indicator by which we can say that our tanks are worse? Hmm ...

[Vadim237]

Safe crew yes.

[Sasha75]

And how they upgraded the automatic Negro's automatic loader was changed to a very healthy Negro)))).

[cth; fyn]

On two blue blacks.

[Korney84]

Tank for pumping from Xzibit: the main thing is to stick more monitors)))

[Belarus]

Let them modify it as they want, but as they burned, the M1 Abrams will burn well. These tanks are designed for those countries where the weapons are not developed or they are very old. For example, until recently in Syria it might have shown itself but not now.
In reality, these tanks can only show themselves in battle. And the question remains: how much does this tank cost ??? And is it worth that kind of money ???

[RUSIVAN]

In the US, the latest modification of the Abrams was demonstrated.
The tank itself is 50% of the whole, the remaining 50% is the crew of the tank, on which the success of the tank depends, and the crew needs motivation, courage and the ability to fight ...

[sergeyzzz]

Quote: demo

Interestingly, does the tank meet California requirements in terms of nitrogen oxide content in its exhaust?
Or only Volkswagen for 18 lard can be shod.

These 18 lard new tanks and stick. I would use a Volkswagen emblem on a tank in their place.

[Coconut]

General Dynamic Corporation for the first time demonstrated in Washington at the AUSA 2015 exhibition the latest modification of the M1 Abrams tank - the M1A2 SEP v.3 variant, the bmpd blog reports with reference to armyrecognition.com.

yes yes ... on such or almost such a Taliban with an igil katayutso..a they shout that they took away from Iraq

[slaw14]

As a friend of RPG-7 said:
"I picked it and I will continue to pick it"

[Baloo]

Respect and respect for your friend and his parents especially. I’ll go get the medicine for their health.

[tchoni]

Here you don’t just have to find fault. They are very smart people. In addition, underestimating the enemy is very dangerous. It is clear that Abrash will not be able to reach how many do not upgrade it, but, firstly, the tank and the tank do not converge so often in battle, so that it would be very critical. And the second, while we are riveting a thousand Armats in a crisis, we’ll modernize our thousand abrashks five times.

[NEXUS]

Quote: tchoni

And the second, while we are riveting a thousand Armats in a crisis, we’ll modernize our thousand abrashks five times.

And about the T-90 "BREAKTHROUGH" as you did not say, but in vain. And in the near future there is an idea to make a remotely controlled T-90 (not all of course, but I think in sufficient quantity). And Abrasha is expensive and heavy and without an automatic loader With regards to vulnerability, excuse the turret engine, as it was not humanly protected, it remains so. And the RPG-7 in the east for $ 150, when it hits this engine, makes this modernized tank for 8 million in a pile of rusty iron.

[tchoni]

If the plans for the modernization of our army remain as they were two years ago, then the picture will be as follows. on tank troops at least.
500-600 T-90
+ 1700-2000 T-72 upgraded to B3 level or another higher level. Koi and will be smoothly replaced by "Armata" at the rate of battalion-regiment per year for 10 years.
In the case of "Abrasha" I mean that this is an asymmetrical response to our "Armata" and is not at all stupid. Because the technical shortcomings of the tank can be compensated for by the tactics of its use, information support for the crew, and an increase in the efficiency of logistics services.
And there is absolutely no reason to relate to the Americans, led by an African American, captainly and contemptuously. It may go sideways. In the same Syria, let’s say.

[MolGro]

Yes normal tank !! It burns beautifully!

[SSeT]

By the way, it is EXTREMELY a successful hit - at the junction of the bathhouse with the BC and the fighting compartment - and the protective shutters also got into the BC! 1 in 100000, LUCKY!
P.S. 2nd case nothing - hit and hit, only the dust went

[MolGro]

Yes, he makes his way to the forehead of the tower!

and the tower flies off beautifully

[Shadowcat]

Nah ... the most important modernism is not pumped. Where are the jams? Which is + 5% to the reload speed?

[lopvlad]

These modifications of Abrams are simply an attempt to extend the life of a tank in the late 70s.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

In their place, I would not concentrate on upgrading Abrams, but on creating a new generation tank, as opposed to Armate.

[AlNikolaich]

Quote: ALEA IACTA EST

In their place, I would not concentrate on upgrading Abrams, but on creating a new generation tank, as opposed to Armate.

Colleague, the Americans are doing everything right! They have a new tank and are not in the project. And appropriations
Congress did not allocate for the development of a new machine ... So, when they will have a new tank will be unknown. And the modernization is timely. As a result, the funds will be justified. Tactical improvement
characteristics, a reduction in the nomenclature of shells, increased combat power. Not bad!
With regards to Almaty, how soon will it go en masse to the troops?

[Bort radist]

"The last modification of the Abrams was demonstrated in the USA"
As they say in aviation - The last and the last is a big difference.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Bort Radist

"The last modification of the Abrams was demonstrated in the USA"
As they say in aviation - The last and the last is a big difference.

In Russian, the more correct expression is "last". And the expression "extreme" is a big uncertainty. For example, a queue of people always has two edges, these are "first" and "last". Or, for example, when gunners knock out tanks on the march or in a narrow place where the tanks cannot turn in battle formation, they first hit the "last", and then the "first", but certainly not the "extreme" ones.

[roskot]

The main thing in the instructions. And it says there’s no way closer than 30 km to Armata.

[slizhov]

It is necessary to something with our brand new HOLIDAY, however ... :)

[alstr]

But I have a question? If you take down the big garbage on the tower, then it turns out that it will be impossible to shoot new-fangled shells (these are those with remote detonation)?
If so then it’s absolutely wonderful to shoot on the roof and the whole tank is not dangerous.

[Maksus]

Comrades, writing about the automatic loader - read the characteristics of the shells - the length of the American BOPS 980mm, can you imagine what size the carousel and shoulder strap of the tower should be in order to automatically charge it ???? That's why they work nigra.
But our BOPSs are short, but from Almaty we can get a normal shell, but for now, in this field we are losing NATE.

[Rader]

Quote: Maksus

Comrades, writing about the automatic loader - read the characteristics of the shells - the length of the American BOPS is 980 mm, can you imagine what size of the carousel and shoulder strap should be in order to automatically charge it ???? That's why they work nigra ...

Hmm .... ??? And what do AZs now only do of the carousel type do? And the French with drum AZ? And the last of the French AMX 56 Leclerc with a conveyor belt? And object 640? And on the abrams platform they also wanted to create a tank with an AZ and an uninhabited tower, but it didn’t grow together ... So if we really wanted to, there would have been an AB for the abrams or his successor, there are not so many technical difficulties.

[Maksus]

The drum mechanism has drawbacks - it is impossible to quickly reload, the same AMX-13, shot its shells at a high pace and went to the rear to reload. And Leclerc was originally designed for AZ, like the Panther K2. Installing a AZ in Abrams will lead to such a cost of remaking that it is easier to wait for lasers and plasma guns)))

[SSeT]

Maksus: you Sword the pearls in front of the pig .. you know yourself! Shkolota just do not understand that there is a different engineering approach - they read about "nigra" from Koshkin - well, they are frolicking! it is unaware that there are technical circumstances (the new unitar amov is longer than 152nd from 2A83), about the fact that OUR tankers are for the 4th only FOR, because in general, or it is stupid to change the gusl at -30 is better than the 4th, that people are more dynamic in a number of situations, and indeed 4> 3, that the AZ is TOO cumbersome with our low-armored volume, that it is better to keep watch at the checkpoint 4th with 2 machine guns than with 1st, What..Chto..What .. is dozens of these WHAT!? EE, which schools or ofisplankton do not even suspect, but by the way, see my top phrase!

[Shadowcat]

But half a liter for three is more convenient to share than for four)

[Yak28]

Now there are a lot of various ATGMs, grenade launchers in the troops, + helicopters that have shown themselves very well as tank killers. I am silent about aviation, artillery and missiles. In my opinion, tank columns are not formidable like in the Great Patriotic War. Now nobody is tanks don't scare

[Maksus]

Well, don't scare. Do you know how far you can hit a tank type target from a grenade launcher? And to get out of the gun into a moving object? Actually, ATGMs and helicopters with ATGMs are terrible for the tank, but some are difficult to carry and expensive, others are very afraid of air defense. A tank is a force, and in itself, but with the presence of support in the form of infantry - this is already fear and horror. And it’s not a fact that a grenade or ATGM hit will destroy the tank.

[Yak28]

Well, for example, a Cornet or similar kilometers will shoot for 4-5, grenade launchers are certainly much closer, in a city a couple of hundred meters is just enough. But if you compare the cost of the ATGM and the tank, the difference will be wow.
Of course, if the tanks come with the support of infantry, aviation, then everything is clear. But I mean that the tank, as I believe, is not such a formidable force as it was before. The Ukrainians with tanks and aviation did not achieve much, and Iraq at one time had more than a thousand tanks and the result is zero. And of course the tank is the most massive and well-armored unit

[Maksus]

Have you seen a tank near? Damn, you can crap one's pants on the kind of 80 coming to you, even if you are firmly convinced that this is the tank of your TB. And if he shoots at the same time?

[voyaka uh]

for Maxus:
That's for sure! I have from my own infantry support tanks
the hair stood up under a helmet ... lying, and the earth is shaking,
as in an earthquake - 50 tons of steel creeps nearby.
A tank, even an old one, is a frightening thing.

[SSeT]

Yak28 SU: You just didn’t see him live, and you can’t imagine what kind of power in capable hands!

[Shurik70]

Quote: Yak28

In my opinion now tank columns do not represent a formidable force as in the great Patriotic war

Any technique is effective with skillful use.
Massive tank attacks with hurricane fire sweeping obstacles showed themselves very well in Iraq.
I believe that the Americans will also modify tanks for this tactic - to shoot faster, further, more powerful, with increased ammunition.
True, there were no missiles in Iraq for a massive response. Type Solcepёka, for example. And so they would have covered the whole brigade with one salvo.

[ssn18]

"For these purposes, the budget includes an amount of $ 367,9 million."

It was from this point that one had to start!
For the exceptional ones, the main thing is to cut the loot, but the fact that a new abrash appears is far from a fact. And the most interesting examples are many.

[RUS69]

Quote: Maksus

Well, don't scare. Do you know how far you can hit a tank type target from a grenade launcher? And to get out of the gun into a moving object? Actually, ATGMs and helicopters with ATGMs are terrible for the tank, but some are difficult to carry and expensive, others are very afraid of air defense. A tank is a force, and in itself, but with the presence of support in the form of infantry - this is already fear and horror. And it’s not a fact that a grenade or ATGM hit will destroy the tank.

Yes and not the fact that gets.
T 14 for this and developed as a complex sorry for offtop
Unlike traditional tanks, the T-14, like all combat vehicles of the Armata family, is not intended for single combat, but for working with a group of various combat vehicles in one tactical link, performing the function of reconnaissance, target designation and remote control through the ESU system TK (unified tactical link management system) of the Sozvedie concern [23] [25], which allows all Armata vehicles to receive an operational situation in real time and automatically calculate ballistic data for fire control systems in a scenario of hitting targets with more than one Armata ”, And attacks the target as a whole group at once. Due to AFAR, the T-14 radar in the tactical link is positioned as a complex of army intelligence and target designation [17]. Direct destruction of targets can be carried out not by the T-14, but by the BBM of its tactical link. For example, a heavy armored infantry fighting vehicle Armata T-15 is capable of using air defense guns 2A42 [26] and 9M133FM-3 Kornet anti-aircraft missiles [27] to fire at air targets found by T-14. For firing T-14 with the help of another BBM, structural changes are introduced into them, in particular, all armored vehicles with the Epoch combat module (T-15, Kurganets-25) received completely remote control fire, including in the capture and tracking of targets. [28] It is proposed to expand this scenario of the remote delivery of targets from the T-14 to the ability of the T-14 to control missiles and guns of an attack helicopter paired with the T-14 [29]. Uralvagonzavod through its Technowars magazine announced that it plans to make the T-14 itself remotely controlled [30]

[Val_y]

Quote: SSeT

But I won’t! really good, and the new modification, whatever the sofa cap-kickers would say, really strengthened the already good opportunities

Yes, the Americans themselves, I read somewhere on the net, criticized this modernization “it’s like there’s a lot of money but there’s no point”

[NordUral]

We do not need to consider abrashek, but air-space-ground systems.

[Mama_Cholli]

They themselves admitted that this is their latest modification.

[Megatron]

Well, something like this...

[Vladimir.]

“But there is still no active defense system. What will happen if there is a direct hit from an ATGM Kornet or RPG-29,32?”
He won’t care about all RPGs and ATGMs. The frontal armor of the M1 Abrams tank cannot be penetrated even by T-72 shells. And for your “Cool” RPG-7 to hit it, you will have to go on board, and even that is not a fact, that you can hit him. Even if you are Vasya Terminatorovich Pupkin, then the Abrams have remote sensing and even active protection systems. And for those who think that they will just drive with the sides naked, then go out the window if you live above the 3rd floor. Americans don’t like to hang DS, etc. at exhibitions.

The T-14 has not fought anywhere yet. And for the jingoistic patriots, I’ll tell you a secret that the Abrams also has automatic loaders and even an uninhabited turret (Abrams Block 3). And this was all done by the 90s of the 20th century .
Even the T-90MS does not reach the level of the M1A1. The M1 has more security, survivability, better electronics (even in the USSR we lagged behind, but now we’ve caught up, yeah.) and with all this, its mobility is no worse than the T-90 .
And the modernization potential of the M1 is enormous.
And the Americans have nothing to fear from the “Armata”, which was produced in quantities of less than 100 pieces (10 or 10+). Well, the T-90 will definitely tear apart the Abrams. A total of 500 T-90s against 16 Abrams. Pfft... Easily!

As I have said many times:
“Patriotism is good, but ardent patriotism is already idiocy. If a person simply yells that “The T-90 is the best” and writes “We will tear apart” to news about Western weapons, then this only speaks of his dementia. Google and avoid patriotic articles. Otherwise you will continue to believe that the T-90 is invulnerable, and the Abrams RPG-7 penetrates. Yeah, I believe it. For reference, the frontal armor of the M1A2 is more than a meter (adjusted) + - Uranium plates.

[Peacemaker]

What’s interesting to me is this: why didn’t anyone except the Americans decide to fill the armor with uranium inserts? Why does Russia, having bops with uranium cores in its arsenal, save them as a last resort? Neither the French nor the Germans dared to undertake such a “feat”. After all, there were reports of poisoning by poisonous, radioactive dust from uranium cores generously scattered in the fields of Iraq... What would happen to an Abrams if a projectile hits it, if the outer layer of armor breaks, or if it collides with a package of depleted uranium? Such a big, scary, uranium monster...