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The name of the seventh "Boreas" has become known.

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The seventh strategic submarine of the Borey type will receive the name of one of the representatives of the Romanov dynasty - "Emperor Alexander III". An order of this has already been signed, told the correspondent TASS source in the Russian Navy.




"Bookmark (submarine) is scheduled for the second half of December this year," - added the source.

The agency recalls that before 2020, construction of a Borey-type 8 submarine is planned, three of which have already been handed over to the customer - the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Each cruiser is armed with 16-th Bulava intercontinental missiles.

Currently, the construction of submarines continues on the modernized project "Borey-A".
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Vladimir Larionov / TASS,
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 13 October 2015 15: 20 New
    39
    Петр Великий есть, будет и Александр III. Историю нужно помнить и "друзьям" напоминать.
    1. sever.56
      sever.56 13 October 2015 15: 26 New
      32
      A worthy name of the great sovereign Alexander III the formidable weapon of Russia.
      Let the number of ascent be equal to the number of dives ... !!! drinks good
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 13 October 2015 15: 48 New
        50
        A worthy name ... the formidable weapon of Russia.

        I would also mention Ivan the Terrible at naming!
        So much dirt and lies were poured on him, but in fact, at that time the ruler of Russia was very wise and powerful!
        П.С.: "Иван IV правил дольше любого из когда-либо стоявших во главе Российского государства правителей — 50 лет и 105 дней."
        1. Manul
          Manul 13 October 2015 16: 43 New
          13
          Quote: Baikonur
          I would also mention Ivan the Terrible at naming!

          hi From the language removed!
          Да и в принципе красивое название для ракетоносца "Иван Грозный"! Сразу всем все понятно winked
          1. the polar
            the polar 13 October 2015 19: 33 New
            +6
            У кремлевских белогвардейцев крыша гниет и пахнет, совсем свихнулись от антисоветизма. Как они еще "адмирала колчака" на какой нить борт не прописали.

            А вот "Капитан Маринеску" им с чего поперек глотки встал... слишком много наверное утопил немецких подводников, немецкая Фрау может обидиться и накласть санкцию на голову своему кремлевскому приятелю.
            1. Karabanov
              Karabanov 13 October 2015 20: 11 New
              +7
              Quote: Polar
              У кремлевских белогвардейцев крыша гниет и пахнет, совсем свихнулись от антисоветизма. Как они еще "адмирала колчака" на какой нить борт не прописали.

              You are probably not too familiar with naval history. It seems to me that more likely is the continuity of traditions than anti-Sovietism.
              Конечно в советское время отдавали предпочтение названиям коммунистических деятелей и героев, а также разных годовщин (что звучало нелепо), но существовал и тот же "Варяг", как символ героизма русских моряков императорского флота. Кстати насчет названия "Петр Великий" (создателя отечественного флота) вы случайно не против?
              Имя корабля - "Александр третий" имеет свою историю. Героическую историю! Этот корабль храбро сражался во время Цусимской битвы и героически погиб со всем экипажем, выполнив свой долг до конца. Лично для меня, и думаю для многих кто знаком с историей нашего флота, название ассоциируется именно с этим и не вызывает отторжения.
              PS Regarding Alexander Marinesco, I am only for it.
              1. crazyrom
                crazyrom 14 October 2015 03: 04 New
                0
                Это всё неспроста. Предыдущие - Князь, Генералиссимус, и "просто" имена (хоть и великие). А тут ИМПЕРАТОР! Империя возрождается, Господа. soldier
            2. KUOLEMA
              KUOLEMA 14 October 2015 02: 30 New
              +2
              The main thing is that Beni Eltsin should not be called or Chubais
            3. SergeyKus
              SergeyKus 14 October 2015 22: 36 New
              0
              Prior to Marinescu and Lunin, as well as other famous commanders, the same line will reach.
        2. whiteeagle
          whiteeagle 13 October 2015 20: 25 New
          -17
          as a result of the policy of Ivan the Terrible, the state was very weak and this opened the door for Poles
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 13 October 2015 21: 00 New
            +7
            You had bad mentors. Grozny and Stalin are the two greatest rulers of our country.
          2. dvina71
            dvina71 13 October 2015 21: 43 New
            +2
            Quote: whiteeagle
            as a result of the policy of Ivan the Terrible, the state was very weak and this opened the door for Poles

            Yeah .. you’ll find out a lot of new things on the Internet .. And I always thought that the reason for the unrest was the weather. A long period of crop failure, which pushed the peasants off the ground in search of food. It’s not difficult to guess who had this to eat .. and to whom they came.
            And Ivan 4 increased the territory of the Moscow Kingdom many times over, which saved Russia from Polish enslavement in many ways. The third militia, ending with turmoil and intervention, gathered on the Volga and in the northern lands.
        3. NordUral
          NordUral 13 October 2015 20: 55 New
          +5
          We ruined all the rulers, which created our country - Grozny, Lenin, Stalin. We know practically nothing about the father of Grozny, Vasily, and he began what his son finished. And about the Soviet era, everyone was misinterpreted into 80's and still lie. It is time to merit the great and insignificant rulers of Russia and the USSR in order to know where and how we should move. To bring back the core idea - social justice.
    2. Vyacheslav 64
      Vyacheslav 64 13 October 2015 15: 30 New
      19
      Алексанр 3 - Великий Император, Император миротворец, как называли его современники. "Пока русский Император рыбу удит, Европа может подождать"
      1. the polar
        the polar 13 October 2015 19: 46 New
        -19
        Quote: Vyacheslav 64
        Алексанр 3 - Великий Император, Император миротворец, как называли его современники. "Пока русский Император рыбу удит, Европа может подождать"

        "Пока русский император в запое, Россия может подождать".
        Следующий "борей" наверное "Боря Е." назовут, чтобы "александру 3" не скучно было.
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 13 October 2015 20: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: Polar
          Следующий "борей" наверное "Боря Е." назовут, чтобы "александру 3" не скучно было.

          А что...Боря-"Борей" -- он такой! Он могЁт! laughing
        2. Vyacheslav 64
          Vyacheslav 64 13 October 2015 21: 29 New
          -6
          "Пока русский император в запое, Россия может подождать".
          Следующий "борей" наверное "Боря Е." назовут, чтобы "александру 3" не скучно было.
          А вам, не плохо было-бы историю немного подучить, прежде чем пытаться здесь глупо "умничать". Там описана причина пристрастия Императора к алкоголю в последние годы жизни!!!
        3. the villain
          the villain 13 October 2015 23: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: Polar
          Следующий "борей" наверное "Боря Е." назовут

          Iron of shame will not stand ...
          Well, don't be remembered by night.
      2. ksv1973
        ksv1973 13 October 2015 20: 00 New
        -1
        Quote: Vyacheslav 64
        Алексанр 3 - Великий Император, Император миротворец, как называли его современники. "Пока русский Император рыбу удит, Европа может подождать"

        Назвали бы просто и со вкусом - "Миротворец"! Самое ТО для такого аппарата! wink
        1. the villain
          the villain 13 October 2015 23: 03 New
          +2
          Quote: ksv1973
          Peacemaker

          Pacifier. So it will be more exact IMHO hi
          1. ksv1973
            ksv1973 13 October 2015 23: 15 New
            +1
            Quote: Villain
            Quote: ksv1973
            Peacemaker

            Pacifier. So it will be more exact IMHO hi

            Support! hi
    3. Russian Uzbek
      Russian Uzbek 13 October 2015 15: 34 New
      -18
      I swear in the Romanov dynasty there were more worthy rulers
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 13 October 2015 15: 44 New
        26
        Quote: Russian Uzbek
        I swear in the Romanov dynasty there were more worthy rulers

        Here it’s fitting to rejoice that a less worthy name has not been received. For example, the same Nicky.

        By the way, the famous saying
        In the whole world we have only 2 faithful allies: our army and navy
        belongs precisely to Alexander III.

        Хотя любителям истории флота имя корабля "Император Александр III" всегда будет напоминать о Цусиме...
        1. Russian Uzbek
          Russian Uzbek 13 October 2015 15: 55 New
          -17
          ""Тут впору радоваться, что менее достойное имя не досталось. Например, того же Ники""
          It would be a fly away!
          but if you consider that Nikolashka the Bloody ruled according to the precepts of his father, then ...
        2. Vorobey-1
          Vorobey-1 13 October 2015 15: 57 New
          +3
          "Император Александр III" - величественное название!
          Emperor - the word speaks for itself
          Александр - "Защитник людей", "Победитель" (имя великих полководцев: Александр Невский, Александр Македонский)
        3. Nissa-on
          Nissa-on 13 October 2015 16: 06 New
          +4
          Хотя любителям истории флота имя корабля "Император Александр III" всегда будет напоминать о Цусиме...


          Прям с "языка сняли".Но те же любители знают,что на "Александре III" был гвардейский экипаж , и весь экипаж погиб на посту.
          A worthy name!
          1. jjj
            jjj 13 October 2015 16: 19 New
            +4
            Кстати, "Варяг" уже в какой реинкарнации. А службу несут пароходы отлично
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 13 October 2015 16: 28 New
              +2
              Quote: jjj
              Кстати, "Варяг" уже в какой реинкарнации. А службу несут пароходы отлично

              Позанудствую: последний из "Варягов" - газотурбоход. smile
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 13 October 2015 16: 29 New
            +2
            Quote: Nissa-on
            Прям с "языка сняли".Но те же любители знают,что на "Александре III" был гвардейский экипаж , и весь экипаж погиб на посту.
            A worthy name!

            Это да. Не "Орёл" или "Рафаил".
        4. segamegament
          segamegament 13 October 2015 19: 31 New
          +5
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Хотя любителям истории флота имя корабля "Император Александр III" всегда будет напоминать о Цусиме...

          Ну может как раз этот "император" и поквитается за Цусиму, кто знает...
        5. ksv1973
          ksv1973 13 October 2015 23: 23 New
          0
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Хотя любителям истории флота имя корабля "Император Александр III" всегда будет напоминать о Цусиме...

          So I’m somehow uncomfortable with this news. Calling watercraft by the names of their predecessors that drowned is like a woman on a ship! Then even Novikov-Priboy would agree with me ...
      2. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 13 October 2015 15: 59 New
        +4
        .... I swear in the Romanov dynasty there were more worthy rulers ...

        ... Are you hinting at Nikolashka worthless ????? .....
        1. Russian Uzbek
          Russian Uzbek 13 October 2015 16: 12 New
          +6
          например Императрица Елизавета Петровна, "дщерь Петра Великого"...и вообще почему германцы Романовы? (Елизавета Петровна,кстати,ПОСЛЕДНЯЯ РУССКАЯ среди Романовых) почему не из Рюриковичей? или Иван 3 например не достаточно велик?
          and the name STALIN is your name?
          1. RUSIVAN
            RUSIVAN 13 October 2015 17: 18 New
            +2
            You have mastered the school course in History, or you are insulted that you were not asked what was to be called ?!
            1. Russian Uzbek
              Russian Uzbek 13 October 2015 17: 29 New
              +1
              But what is necessary to throw a hat in the air and scream cheers?
              Yes, and the school course of history would not hurt many to master
              AND AT ALL DO NOT LIKE ME THE CONJECTURE FOR RESTORATION OF THE MONARCHY
              1. ALEA IACTA EST
                ALEA IACTA EST 13 October 2015 21: 28 New
                -1
                Quote: Russian Uzbek
                AND AT ALL DO NOT LIKE ME THE CONJECTURE FOR RESTORATION OF THE MONARCHY

                Do the French also want to restore the monarchy? laughing
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          3. Moore
            Moore 14 October 2015 04: 29 New
            0
            Quote: Russian Uzbek
            (Elizaveta Petrovna, by the way, LAST RUSSIAN among the Romanovs)

            Dear Russian Uzbek, sorry, they wrote nonsense.
            How can the daughter of the Russian tsar and German be more Russian than, for example, the daughter of Tsar Ivan V (brother and co-ruler of Tsar Peter I) and Tsarina Praskovya - Anna Ioannovna?
            We are talking about blood, not about the spirit. If about him, then the pure German Sophia Augusta Frederic of Anhalt-Zerbskaya (in our opinion - Catherine II) will give odds to all of the above.
      3. kepmor
        kepmor 13 October 2015 16: 07 New
        -1
        Especially Nicholas II!
      4. RUSIVAN
        RUSIVAN 13 October 2015 17: 14 New
        0
        Even worthy of you ...
      5. NordUral
        NordUral 13 October 2015 21: 04 New
        -6
        There were two relatively normal kings in the Romanov dynasty - Nicholas I and Alexander II, and that’s all.
    4. Finches
      Finches 13 October 2015 15: 37 New
      10
      Alexander III is beautiful, don’t tell! He didn’t want to make his son Tsar Nicholas II, preparing his eldest son George, but ... Clio does not know the subjunctive mood!
    5. ava09
      ava09 13 October 2015 15: 52 New
      +6
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Петр Великий есть, будет и Александр III. Историю нужно помнить и "друзьям" напоминать.


      ИсТОРию или Русскую хронологию надо помнить? Романовы, приложившие так много усилий чтобы стереть истинную хронологию русских, в этом отношении не "Великие", как вы уважительно величаете Петра Первого.
    6. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 13 October 2015 15: 58 New
      +3
      .... Peter the Great is, will be Alexander III ....

      .... I read it right away and almost sweated - Nicholas II imagined .... I reread it - it eased .... :)))))))
      1. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich 13 October 2015 19: 38 New
        -1
        Quote: aleks 62 next
        .... Peter the Great is, will be Alexander III ....

        .... I read it right away and almost sweated - Nicholas II imagined .... I reread it - it eased .... :)))))))

        Cross three times, buddy!
        A worthy name for the cruiser will be!
    7. GradusHuK
      GradusHuK 13 October 2015 16: 53 New
      0
      Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! A worthy name for the Premier League!
    8. Sea Wolf
      Sea Wolf 13 October 2015 17: 44 New
      +3
      It was Alexander the Third, named the peacemaker, who said that Russia has two allies: its army and its fleet. He was a great man. He loved to drink, and hid from his wife a flask of cognac behind the bootleg.
  2. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 13 October 2015 15: 20 New
    +8
    Emperor .. I like the name!
    1. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 13 October 2015 15: 25 New
      +1
      In general, a series of submarines data, the codename emperor (and not Borey) would have come in handy ... and the names corresponding (Peter1, Nikolai 2, Catherine the Great ... etc ...) would be appropriate ... but I do not insist .. so ... dreamed))
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 13 October 2015 15: 34 New
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        Quote: Air Force Captain
        and names respectively (Petr1, Nicholas 2, Catherine the Great ... etc.



        No need Nicholas 2 on the same level with Peter and Catherine the Great to put ... He then just the empire and profiled ...
        1. Rusich is not from Kiev
          Rusich is not from Kiev 13 October 2015 15: 41 New
          -13
          Quote: veksha50
          It’s not necessary to put Nicholas 2 on the same level with Peter and Catherine the Great ... He’s just an empire and profiled ..

          So Peter I laid the foundation for this collapse. That demon.
          1. mitya24
            mitya24 13 October 2015 16: 11 New
            +9
            The one that created the Empire? Stop talking nonsense.
            1. ava09
              ava09 14 October 2015 09: 47 New
              +1
              Quote: mitya24
              The one that created the Empire? Stop talking nonsense.


              Поосторожнее с "чушью", ещё доподлинно не известно, кто её несёт, благодаря усердию Романовых. И с империей осторожнее, после смерти Грозного кто её пытался разрушить, не вечные "враги народа" - бояре?
            2. Rusich is not from Kiev
              Rusich is not from Kiev 16 October 2015 07: 51 New
              0
              Quote: mitya24
              The one that created the Empire? Stop talking nonsense.

              Like before him there was nothing, right? Well, if for the sake of the Empire, which even after winning pays a loser a lot of money for land, you need to destroy or ruin a third of the country's population, then well, nafig.
              It was Peter who divided the united people into nobles and plebeians, who, in the year 17, clashed.
              It was he who destroyed everything Russian indiscriminately and took everything foreign also indiscriminately.
              It was he who brought power to the thieves such as Menshikov, who did not have a sense of proportion at all.
              It was he who turned the peasants from practically free people into real slaves.
              It was he who brought all this foreign shaika which ruled directly until Elizabeth and remained in power until 17 years.
              All his successes are manufactories. But was it worth them to destroy the whole world.
          2. ALEA IACTA EST
            ALEA IACTA EST 13 October 2015 21: 32 New
            +1
            [quote=Русич не с Киева]Тот ещё демон .[/quote.]
            Here is a demon, he made Russia a great power ... I will never forgive him for this! lol
            1. Rusich is not from Kiev
              Rusich is not from Kiev 16 October 2015 07: 55 New
              0
              Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
              Here is a demon, he made Russia a great power ... I will never forgive him for this!

              And what was she before? What are some idiots .. have they lived there? That the fleet was not its own and the ships could not build? Guns to pour? That there were no regiments of the foreign system? Didn’t send to study? All the reforms that Peter made were started by his father, without any fanaticism.
              Peter's empire turned into Bironovschina, here is his legacy.
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 13 October 2015 15: 32 New
      +5
      Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
      Emperor .. I like the name!



      It’s not for nothing that the enemies itch about the imperial aspirations of Russia ... Especially Naglia, who, as an empire, has lost itself long ago, but is the worst enemy of Russia ...

      PS Russian Empire ... But what? It sounds! ...
  3. ilyaches
    ilyaches 13 October 2015 15: 20 New
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    Seven feet under the keel.
    1. the villain
      the villain 13 October 2015 23: 15 New
      0
      Quote: ilyaches
      Seven feet under the keel.

      Better than an equal number of dives and ascent, these are divers lol
  4. Engineer
    Engineer 13 October 2015 15: 21 New
    +8
    "У России есть только два союзника: ее армия и флот" Александр III. Более достойного императора найти трудно.
  5. Petr1
    Petr1 13 October 2015 15: 21 New
    -18
    And I would suggest calling it President Putin, what is the point of calling the boat the name of the long-dead king, let him be afraid of President Putin ... soldier
    1. jaguar
      jaguar 13 October 2015 15: 23 New
      +4
      Well, it’s your dearest already suffered lol lol lol
      1. Petr1
        Petr1 13 October 2015 15: 29 New
        +1
        Quote: jaguar
        Well, it’s your dearest already suffered

        But what, unworthy?
        1. Bombardier
          Bombardier 13 October 2015 15: 44 New
          +3
          Quote: Petr1
          Quote: jaguar
          Well, it’s your dearest already suffered

          But what, unworthy?



          It's too early ....
          1. made13
            made13 13 October 2015 15: 53 New
            21
            Когда-нибудь в составе флота будет и "Генералиссимус Сталин" good
            1. Russian Uzbek
              Russian Uzbek 13 October 2015 17: 34 New
              +2
              ""Когда-нибудь в составе флота будет и "Генералиссимус Сталин" """
              размечтались...что это вы тут какие то тоталитарные и нерукопожатные названия предлагаете!скорее "Николай 2" назовут он же у нас СВЯТОЙ!
              1. AlNikolaich
                AlNikolaich 13 October 2015 19: 45 New
                +2
                Quote: Russian Uzbek
                ""Когда-нибудь в составе флота будет и "Генералиссимус Сталин" """
                размечтались...что это вы тут какие то тоталитарные и нерукопожатные названия предлагаете!скорее "Николай 2" назовут он же у нас СВЯТОЙ!

                Quote: Russian Uzbek
                ""Когда-нибудь в составе флота будет и "Генералиссимус Сталин" """
                размечтались...что это вы тут какие то тоталитарные и нерукопожатные названия предлагаете!скорее "Николай 2" назовут он же у нас СВЯТОЙ!

                Well, not knowing how you are ... The fact that Nikolai the martyr agrees, but he is far from the saint.
                Whatever the church says. I personally do not accept the execution of the king and his family. Citizen Romanov Nikolai Alexandrovich was supposed to live, and with his family to benefit the young
                Soviet republic! For man was not stupid and educated!
                Well, what happened is what happened ...
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral 15 October 2015 20: 04 New
                  0
                  Nicholas II was not lucky to be born a simple man, this is his misfortune and the misfortune of Russia.
              2. ava09
                ava09 13 October 2015 20: 50 New
                +2
                Quote: Russian Uzbek
                ""Когда-нибудь в составе флота будет и "Генералиссимус Сталин" """
                размечтались...что это вы тут какие то тоталитарные и нерукопожатные названия предлагаете!скорее "Николай 2" назовут он же у нас СВЯТОЙ!


                Мутный вы какой-то... И не русский и не узбек по хорошему. Никто вас не наделял правом определять "рукопожатность". Сталин сам про себя говорил: -"Я русский человек грузинской национальности" и я ему верю. Верю потому, что если бы он был тем, кем его выставили враги России, никогда она при его правлении не достигла самого высокого подъёма самосознания и величайших ПОБЕД в хронологии РУССКИХ.
                1. Russian Uzbek
                  Russian Uzbek 13 October 2015 21: 14 New
                  -1
                  I’m neither Russian nor Uzbek, I’m Russian Uzbek ... or Uzbek Uzbek - whatever ...
                  про "рукопожатность" это ирония;)
                  1. NordUral
                    NordUral 15 October 2015 20: 07 New
                    0
                    I am Russian, although my father is German and my mother is Russian. I’m Russian and I will repeat it a thousand times. And I will not deny the names of those who moved Russia forward. Although he himself was fooled at one time, but the veil fell from his eyes. And thanks for the internet!
              3. NordUral
                NordUral 15 October 2015 20: 03 New
                0
                Which are already there. A good wish.
            2. ALEA IACTA EST
              ALEA IACTA EST 13 October 2015 21: 35 New
              0
              Quote: made13
              Когда-нибудь в составе флота будет и "Генералиссимус Сталин" good

              And it would be nice to perpetuate all the rulers of Russia ... winked
              Dream, dream ... sad
              1. the villain
                the villain 13 October 2015 23: 25 New
                +1
                Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
                And it would be nice to perpetuate all the rulers of Russia ...

                It’s all too much, I recall two offhand, I planted one corn, and the second did not have enough consensus ...
    2. Engineer
      Engineer 13 October 2015 15: 42 New
      +1
      Russian naval traditions are honored
    3. samara-58
      samara-58 13 October 2015 16: 20 New
      0
      good Join us! lol
  6. Victor bg
    Victor bg 13 October 2015 15: 23 New
    +8
    References to historical figures, young people are interested in history, and who does not remember kinship .. with those you yourself know what is happening.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 13 October 2015 16: 13 New
      +7
      And the names of the heroic ships. Or the famous officer dynasties. Yes, in our Russo-Japanese war how many heroes were there. More sailors got more names than sailors. But the ship commanders must be remembered and their ships should be named: Commander Varyaga Rudnev, Commander Rurik Trusov, Commander Aurora Egoriev. The Aurora is not only a symbol of revolution. It is the heroic ship of the 2 Pacific Squadron, the legendary training ship .And the exploits of the Varangian and Rurik, these are the legends of our fleet.
      1. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich 13 October 2015 19: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: Amurets
        And the names of the heroic ships. Or the famous officer dynasties. Yes, in our Russo-Japanese war how many heroes were there. More sailors got more names than sailors. But the ship commanders must be remembered and their ships should be named: Commander Varyaga Rudnev, Commander Rurik Trusov, Commander Aurora Egoriev. The Aurora is not only a symbol of revolution. It is the heroic ship of the 2 Pacific Squadron, the legendary training ship .And the exploits of the Varangian and Rurik, these are the legends of our fleet.

        A colleague, I believe that with our growing fleet, there will be new ships that will gain
        the names of these illustrious people!
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 15 October 2015 20: 09 New
          0
          Your words yes to God in your ears!
  7. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 13 October 2015 15: 24 New
    +6
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Петр Великий есть, будет и Александр III. Историю нужно помнить и "друзьям" напоминать.

    The name is not important .. The main task and its implementation!
  8. Vyacheslav73
    Vyacheslav73 13 October 2015 15: 24 New
    +3
    Спецы -поясните,пожалуйста, в чем существенные отличия проектов "Борей" и "Борей-А" ??? request
    1. jaguar
      jaguar 13 October 2015 15: 31 New
      +5
      The most important there will be 20 missiles, as opposed to 16 on the borea.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 13 October 2015 21: 20 New
      +4
      Quote: Vyacheslav73
      в чем существенные отличия проектов "Борей" и "Борей-А"

      Начиная с 4-го корпуса пр.955 (условно пр.09554) будет изменена форма корпуса лодки - она будет ближе к начальному облику пр.955. Лодки будут строиться без использования задела из ПЛА пр.971. В носовых отсеках рпкСН планируется отказ от двухкорпусности с размещением в носу антенных устройста ГАК "Иртыш-Амфора". Так же будут использованы протяжные корпусные антенны ГАК. Торпедные аппараты будут перемещены ближе к центру корпуса и станут бортовыми, носовые рули глубины будут перемещены на рубку. В районе шахт БРПЛ планируется уменьшение размеров проницаемой надстройки. Количество шахт останется 16. Энергетическая установка вероятно так же будет модернизирована в сторону унификации с другими ПЛА 4-го поколения - планируется использование новой паропроизводящей установки. По сути речь идет о новом пр. рпкСН. 30 июля 2012 г. первая ПЛ пр.955А "Князь Владимир" официально заложена на ПО "Севмаш" в Северодвинске.
      ягуар: "Самая главная там будет 20 ракет в отличии от 16 на борее".
      Борей-А будет нести 16 х БРПЛ комплекса Д-30 / 3К30 "Булава" с ракетами Р-30 / SS-NX-30 разработки МИТ. По данным 2013 г. (и ранее) считалось, что на крейсере пр.955А будет 20 пусковых шахт БРПЛ. Опровергнуто в интервью директора ПО "Севмаш" 17.02.2013 г.: "Аз" будет по-прежнему иметь 16 БРПЛ. (Технология, оснастка, конвеер)
  9. vovanpain
    vovanpain 13 October 2015 15: 25 New
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    Конечно в штабе виднее как назвать,но почему назвали "АлександромIII"из династии Романовых,а не из династии Рюриковичей,как остальные лодки проекта "Иваном Грозным"например?
  10. avt
    avt 13 October 2015 15: 25 New
    +5
    Хорошее имя , но восьмую надо всенепременно ,,Гражданин Минин"назвать ! Это не дело -,,Князь Пожарский "есть, а ,Гражданина Минина" нет . request
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 13 October 2015 15: 28 New
      +4
      In the reign of Alexander III, Russia did not wage a single war. For peacekeeping, the monarch received the honorary nickname Tsar the Peacemaker from the people. Is this in connection with this?
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 13 October 2015 15: 49 New
      +8
      Quote: avt
      Хорошее имя , но восьмую надо всенепременно ,,Гражданин Минин"назвать ! Это не дело -,,Князь Пожарский "есть, а ,Гражданина Минина" нет . request

      Корабль должен нести Имя и Фамилию. Поэтому лучше "Кузьма Минин". Заодно на нём и "Кузькина мать" (16 шт.) имеется.
      1. avt
        avt 13 October 2015 15: 58 New
        +7
        Quote: Алексей_К
        Корабль должен нести Имя и Фамилию. Поэтому лучше "Кузьма Минин".

        Он в историю записан как Гражданин , ну а ,,Кузьма Минин" тоже нормально .Главное чтобы БЫЛ такой корабль с таким именем рядом с аналогичным по классу ,,Князем Пожарским" НЕЛЬЗЯ их разделять .
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 13 October 2015 16: 33 New
          +5
          Quote: avt
          Он в историю записан как Гражданин , ну а ,,Кузьма Минин" тоже нормально .Главное чтобы БЫЛ такой корабль с таким именем рядом с аналогичным по классу ,,Князем Пожарским" НЕЛЬЗЯ их разделять .

          Хе-хе-хе... броненосный фрегат РИФ тоже поначалу хотели назвать "Гражданин Минин". Но потом "гражданин" из имени куда-то пропал... smile
          А вот броненосный фрегат "Князь Пожарский" так и остался с титулом в имени.
  11. katalonec2014
    katalonec2014 13 October 2015 15: 26 New
    +2
    The Emperor, so the Emperor, will be waiting for him. Probably by the time he is included in the Russian Navy, he will already be Borey-B.
  12. nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 13 October 2015 15: 27 New
    +5
    A decent name for an excellent submarine
  13. ratfly
    ratfly 13 October 2015 15: 28 New
    +2
    Only not Nicholas II. He was such an empire. Shit! Yes, even denied Pascud. Rest in peace.
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  15. saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 13 October 2015 15: 38 New
    +1
    It is a well-deserved and honorable name, I hope, like Alexander III, you won’t have to fight, but Russia’s prestige will be raised to a new higher level.
  16. Old Siberian
    Old Siberian 13 October 2015 15: 38 New
    +2
    A worthy name for a worthy weapon. The name of a peacemaker cannot be put to shame.
  17. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 13 October 2015 15: 44 New
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    And why not Generalissimo Stalin, Marshal Rokossovsky, Marshal Zhukov, and so on. After all, the Romanov dynasty was already kissed on all sides. But everything Soviet is denigrated and forgotten. Although only under Stalin in 30 years the country achieved more than the Romanov dynasty in 300 years. In the days of the USSR, we built libraries, schools, houses and factories with factories, and now only trading and barging nets and churches with mosques and synagogues. I have nothing against exactly against Alexander III, but it may be enough to lick tsarism with its serfdom, or maybe it’s worth it to really turn to the great. But the authorities will not go to the revival of the good memory of the Soviet past. Under tsarism there were gentlemen and serfs, serfs; under Soviet rule, all were equal. So the power of this equality is afraid. The present time, the time of neo-serfdom is prettier to them. and slaves with idiots have always been the main resource of capitalism. But at the same time, the entire current system is completely based on the Soviet legacy. In addition to mansions, churches with mosques and entertainment centers, the current system has not created anything. But at the same time he plays on the consciousness of people as a musical instrument, realizing that people will not go to the Maidan, destroying their country. That's what a shame, people believe in power, and she makes idiots out of them.
    1. Severomor
      Severomor 13 October 2015 16: 15 New
      +7
      And why not Generalissimo Stalin, Marshal Rokossovsky

      - they served the people.

      Yes, everything is correct, then there will be Witte, Stolypin, Kolchak, Kornilov, Kerensky ........))))))

      You yourself answered your own question. Who owns the bowels, means of production, and minerals? THEN UNDER KINGS (emperors) the same thing happened

      Remember: Story - Oligarchic Capitalism
      For the sake of 300% profit, the capitalist goes for any crime
      1. Manul
        Manul 13 October 2015 16: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: Severomor
        Yes, everything is correct, then there will be Witte, Stolypin, Kolchak, Kornilov, Kerensky ........))))))

        You yourself answered your own question. Who owns the bowels, means of production, and minerals? THEN UNDER KINGS (emperors) the same thing happened

        Remember: Story - Oligarchic Capitalism
        For the sake of 300% profit, the capitalist goes for any crime

        What are you distorting? How can Stolypin be compared with Kerensky?
        1. Severomor
          Severomor 13 October 2015 17: 02 New
          +4
          And why not Generalissimo Stalin, Marshal Rokossovsky

          Did I compare them?
          Although yes, I made a mistake - Witte, Stolypin on one side, Kornilov and Kerensky on the other))))

          PS But each ship has a chance to be called one of the parties))))
          1. Manul
            Manul 13 October 2015 21: 07 New
            -1
            Sorry, but you are terribly wrong. If earlier, I would challenge you to a duel. Now answer me in full here.
        2. Mareman Vasilich
          Mareman Vasilich 13 October 2015 17: 02 New
          +9
          Он не передёргивает. И Столыпин и Керенский служили частному капиталу, его величество либерализму, не важно какому. пусть они сидели в разных лодках, но плыли в одном направлении. Наша власть пойдёт на любые шаги, только бы не перенимать советский опыт. СССР не вернуть, но опыт его сейчас очень пригодился бы. Но это означало бы что все были бы равны перед законом и в обществе, а это есть самый страшный сон нашей власти, "элиты", олигархов, чиновников.
          1. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 13 October 2015 18: 31 New
            +5
            Quote: Mareman Vasilich
            USSR does not return

            The USSR may not come back, but Socialism is a social system for every person, you can return. Only there is no such leader now, for whom the people would vote by 100%.
          2. Manul
            Manul 13 October 2015 21: 08 New
            0
            Quote: Mareman Vasilich
            Mareman Vasilich (3) Today, 17:02 ↑
            Он не передёргивает. И Столыпин и Керенский служили частному капиталу, его величество либерализму, не важно какому. пусть они сидели в разных лодках, но плыли в одном направлении. Наша власть пойдёт на любые шаги, только бы не перенимать советский опыт. СССР не вернуть, но опыт его сейчас очень пригодился бы. Но это означало бы что все были бы равны перед законом и в обществе, а это есть самый страшный сон нашей власти, "элиты", олигархов, чиновников.

            Stolypin was a brain and a statesman. Kerensky is an adventurer (I don’t want to blame anyone - they worked under completely different conditions. But if Stolypin succeeded, everything he planned was Russia would now dictate conditions on the whole planet. And Kerensky was a small prince, his emperor was dreaming).
            1. the polar
              the polar 14 October 2015 08: 52 New
              0
              Quote: Manul
              if Stolypin succeeded, all that he had planned -Russia would now dictate conditions on the whole planet. And Kerensky - the little prince, he was dreaming of the emperor).

              А ну ка, "профессор истории", перечисли ка быстренько, чего такого столыпин задумал? Какие его "труды" ты прочитал?
              But Kerensky, for your information, was ES-ER (a member of the Socialist Revolutionary Party) and promoted the program, a tyutelk in a tyutelka similar to Mr. Putin’s speeches. He was supported by the liberal middle class and large landowners such as the Rhodes, Lviv and Purishkevich
            2. Mareman Vasilich
              Mareman Vasilich 14 October 2015 10: 01 New
              +1
              Kerensky, like Trotsky, was an advocate of Anglo-Saxon capital. His task included the maximum possible destruction of the state. Stolypin also wanted to eat an egg and not to break an egg.
          3. Manul
            Manul 13 October 2015 21: 13 New
            -1
            Quote: Mareman Vasilich
            Он не передёргивает. И Столыпин и Керенский служили частному капиталу, его величество либерализму, не важно какому. пусть они сидели в разных лодках, но плыли в одном направлении. Наша власть пойдёт на любые шаги, только бы не перенимать советский опыт. СССР не вернуть, но опыт его сейчас очень пригодился бы. Но это означало бы что все были бы равны перед законом и в обществе, а это есть самый страшный сон нашей власти, "элиты", олигархов, чиновников.

            Change your face. I am against.
            PS And in general, admins, enter for granted - do not use the faces of great (historical) people as avatars. Even the professor is concerned.
          4. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 14 October 2015 02: 42 New
            +3
            Quote: Mareman Vasilich
            Mareman Vasilich

            I’m not only accepting, but sincerely by all means I support your position! +100500
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    2. Proud.
      Proud. 13 October 2015 19: 33 New
      0
      Quote: Mareman Vasilich
      And why not Generalissimo Stalin, Marshal Rokossovsky, Marshal Zhukov, and so on. After all, the Romanov dynasty was already kissed on all sides. But everything Soviet is denigrated and forgotten.

      Согласен.Хотя и Рюриковичей можно.Для начала.Название для "Бореев":"Иван Грозный".И девиз:"Я вас насквозь вижу!".Или:"Князь Воротынский"(победитель Битвы при Молодях),и девиз-"Беги камса-пока роса",или-"Крым-наш!".
    3. Karabanov
      Karabanov 13 October 2015 20: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Mareman Vasilich
      And why not Generalissimo Stalin, Marshal Rokossovsky, Marshal Zhukov, and so on.

      Well, in our fleet the names of ships with worthy Soviet admirals are still preserved, the same TAKR “Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov”. So future ships may wait for the names you proposed.
  18. Crucian
    Crucian 13 October 2015 15: 45 New
    +2
    Quote: Old Siberian
    A worthy name for a worthy weapon. The name of a peacemaker cannot be put to shame.

    If you want peace, get ready for war! The more such submarines, there is more world in the world, sorry for the tautology. winked
  19. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 13 October 2015 15: 46 New
    +8
    Александр III - достойное имя для "стратега". Не зря Сан Саныч вошёл в историю как "самый русский царь".
    Z.Y. It would be nice if the TARK or aircraft carrier in the future called Stalin. That would be fair.
  20. Dima Čalevo
    Dima Čalevo 13 October 2015 16: 00 New
    +2
    Прекрасное название!) Лично мне всегда хотелось, чтобы новые лодки называли по именам кораблей русского императорского флота - "Слава", "Бородино", "Орел", "Князь Суворов", "Император Александр III, "Наварин", "Гангут", "Ретвизан", "Паллада", "Меркурий".. Все-таки преемственность во флоте важна, и имя корабля должно передаваться будущим поколениям))
    1. Nissa-on
      Nissa-on 13 October 2015 16: 09 New
      +1
      In general, of course, it is time to build a harmonious system of naming ships. This was both in the Imperial Navy and in the USSR.
      При "ампираторе" конечно имена то посолидней были.

      P.S. А Вы знаете ,что "Ретвизан" по шведски -"слон"? ))))
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 13 October 2015 16: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: Nissa-on
        In general, of course, it is time to build a harmonious system of naming ships. This was both in the Imperial Navy and in the USSR.

        And she was - this system? Here are the names of the same type (in the first approximation) of the Black Sea Fleet: “Catherine II”, “Chesma”, “Sinop” and “George the Victorious”. Empress, two sea victoria (Middle-earth and World Cup) and a saint.
        Берём "бородинцев": "Бородино", "Император Александр III", "Орёл", "Князь Суворов", "Слава".
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 13 October 2015 16: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: Dima Čalevo
      Лично мне всегда хотелось, чтобы новые лодки называли по именам кораблей русского императорского флота - "Слава", "Бородино", "Орел", "Князь Суворов", "Император Александр III, "Наварин", "Гангут", "Ретвизан", "Паллада", "Меркурий"..

      "Орла" лучше не надо... нехорошая судьба у "орлов".
      1. kote119
        kote119 13 October 2015 17: 42 New
        +1
        than the eagle did not please
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 13 October 2015 18: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: kote119
          than the eagle did not please

          Первый "Орёл" был захвачен Стенькой Разиным. Последний - спустил флаг и был сдан японцам при Цусиме.
    3. Rattenfanger
      Rattenfanger 13 October 2015 16: 54 New
      +2
      "Ретвизан", "Меркурий", "Паллада"-это,конечно,хорошо. История,как -никак. Но вот ВМФ СССР всёж-таки погромче будет как в плане оценки вероятным супостатом, так и по именам-"Адмирал флота Советского Союза Николай Кузнецов","Маршал Шапошников","Адмирал Виноградов".
      Although the taste and color, as they say ...
  21. Zai pali
    Zai pali 13 October 2015 16: 11 New
    0
    Approved, just a class. Keep it up.
  22. pts-m
    pts-m 13 October 2015 16: 17 New
    +2
    as they say in the people ... as they call, it will go with that name ...
  23. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2015 16: 36 New
    +4
    Quote: Mareman Vasilich
    And why not Generalissimo Stalin, Marshal Rokossovsky, Marshal Zhukov, and so on.

    Если обратили внимание, то все названия - это политические и военные деятели, но не позже 19 века. Так что не будет предложенных вами. Это в СССР могли "адмиральскую" серию разбавить вдруг "Маршалом..." или "Василием Чапаевым".

    Quote: Алексей_К
    Корабль должен нести Имя и Фамилию. Поэтому лучше "Кузьма Минин".

    Наиболее вероятное наименование лодки №8 я думаю будет "Михаил Кутузов" (как вариант - "Фельдмаршал Кутузов"). С меньшей степенью вероятности - "Святитель Николай" (достаточно расплывчатое название"). Тем более, что первоначально планировалось назвать лодку "Генералиссимус Суворов" - "Михаил Кутузов", потом "Князь Суворов". Но в результате была заложена как "Генералиссимус Суворов".

    Quote: Vyacheslav73
    Спецы -поясните,пожалуйста, в чем существенные отличия проектов "Борей" и "Борей-А" ??? request

    Отличаться будет от лодок проекта 955 некоторым изменением в оборудовании и вооружении. Как пишут вместо 8 носовых ТА будет будут 4, но уже бортовых. Рубка не будет иметь отрицательного угла наклона, носовые горизональные рули из-за изменения расположения ТА станут рубочными, изменится состав средств противодействия. Вместо 6 х 533 мм одноразовых неперезаряжаемых ПУ РЭПС-324 "Шлагбаум" для запуска средств гидроакустического противодействия МГ-104 "Бросок" или МГ-114 "Берилл" будут 6 х 533 мм одноразовых неперезаряжаемых ПУ с СГАПД "Ласта" и 2 х вертикальных ПУ "Модуль-Д"
    The number of missiles will be the same as on project 955, that is 16

    Quote: jaguar
    The most important there will be 20 missiles, as opposed to 16 on the borea.

    16 и ни одной больше. Это было опровергнуто в интервью директора ПО "Севмаш" еще 17.02.2013 г.
  24. Maksus
    Maksus 13 October 2015 16: 55 New
    +3
    It is annoying that there is no system in the names of ships. Either Borey, then Dolgoruky, now Emperor Alexander3. Either in turn (in order of succession), or somehow by epochs. Where then is Rurik or Prophetic Oleg with Vsevolod the Big Nest.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 13 October 2015 19: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: Maksus
      It is annoying that there is no system in the names of ships. Either Borey, then Dolgoruky, now Emperor Alexander3. Either in turn (in order of succession), or somehow by epochs. Where then is Rurik or Prophetic Oleg with Vsevolod the Big Nest.

      This is a special naval system - unsystematic. smile
      У нас с названиями больших кораблей никогда системы не было. Что в РИФ, что в ВМФ СССР. Даже во вроде бы нормальную систему названий пр.1143 "по городам" внезапно вклинился "Леонид Брежнев"/"Кузнецов".
      1. Rader
        Rader 13 October 2015 21: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Quote: Maksus
        It is annoying that there is no system in the names of ships. Either Borey, then Dolgoruky, now Emperor Alexander3. Either in turn (in order of succession), or somehow by epochs. Where then is Rurik or Prophetic Oleg with Vsevolod the Big Nest.

        This is a special naval system - unsystematic. smile
        У нас с названиями больших кораблей никогда системы не было. Что в РИФ, что в ВМФ СССР. Даже во вроде бы нормальную систему названий пр.1143 "по городам" внезапно вклинился "Леонид Брежнев"/"Кузнецов".

        "Умом Россию не понять" (с) Ну а флот - тем более laughing
  25. TanakaKenshin
    TanakaKenshin 13 October 2015 16: 56 New
    +2
    My most respected Emperor is the All-Russian Emperor.
    Войны не любил, но и спуску "заклятым друзьям" не давал. :)
  26. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2015 17: 02 New
    +1
    Quote: Maksus
    It is annoying that there is no system in the names of ships. Either Borey, then Dolgoruky, now Emperor Alexander3. Either in turn (in order of succession), or somehow by epochs. Where then is Rurik or Prophetic Oleg with Vsevolod the Big Nest.

    Борей - это название проекта, а не персональное имя крейсера. Юрий Долгорукий - название головного. А остальные - совсем не обязательно давать названия в хронологическом порядке. А насчет Вещего Олега.. Есть лодка а названием "Князь Олег". В честь какого Олега вы думаете названа эта лодка?
    1. Maksus
      Maksus 13 October 2015 18: 24 New
      +1
      That's what I am talking about - if the project is Borey, then why not give names by the names of the winds (Samum, Khamsin, etc.), if the lead ship is a prince, then let the rest be princes, not Emperors and generals. Something like this.
      1. Disant
        Disant 13 October 2015 19: 57 New
        +1
        how they begin to stamp boats as sausages, then it will be as you wish ..
  27. dosyl
    dosyl 13 October 2015 17: 23 New
    +2
    Quote: Petr1
    And I would suggest calling it President Putin, what is the point of calling the boat the name of the long-dead king, let him be afraid of President Putin ... soldier

    Stoned, or what? The bream decided to throw the president? Putin is a humble man.
  28. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 13 October 2015 18: 36 New
    +1
    Я думал "императорскими" сделают ТАРКР, переименуют после ремонта - "Император Пётр Первый", "Император Александр Первый", "Император Александр Третий", но так тоже не плохо.
    Интересно, "Императрица Екатерина Вторая" нормальное название для боевого корабля?)
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 13 October 2015 19: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: chunga-changa
      Интересно, "Императрица Екатерина Вторая" нормальное название для боевого корабля?)

      It’s quite normal.
      Это название в РИФ "эпохи пара" использовалось дважды:
      ЭБР "Екатерина II": первый полноценный ЭБР ЧФ, головной в серии из 4-х кораблей. Серия отличалась усиленным ГК - шесть 12" орудий в барбетных установках.
      ЛК "Императрица Екатерина Великая" (первоначально - "Екатерина II"): третий ЛК типа "Императрица Мария". Воевал в ПМВ в составе ЧФ.
  29. roskot
    roskot 13 October 2015 19: 34 New
    +3
    There would be ships, and the name - in our history of names is enough. And what names.
  30. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2015 19: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: chunga-changa
    Я думал "императорскими" сделают ТАРКР, переименуют после ремонта - "Император Пётр Первый", "Император Александр Первый", "Император Александр Третий", но так тоже не плохо.

    Больше всего моряки не любят переименований. Все атомные уже по разу названия меняли, Петр Великий вообще уже носит третье имя. Хотите его перекрестить в четвертый раз???? К тому же два корабля на флоте одно название не имеют. "Император Александр Третий" - это лодка...
  31. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2015 19: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Даже во вроде бы нормальную систему названий пр.1143 "по городам" внезапно вклинился "Леонид Брежнев"/"Кузнецов".

    Ну что поделать, если у нас всегда находили любители "прогнуться". А так и была стройная система, особенно у авианесущих и вертолетоносцев:
    -Moscow
    Leningrad
    -Kiev (construction was not carried out)
    -Kiev
    -Minsk
    -Novorossiysk (laid as Kharkov)
    -Baku
    -Tbilisi
    -Riga
    -Ulyanovsk
    And then the union fell apart and returned the names of Baku, Tbilisi, Riga was somehow not comme il faut
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 14 October 2015 10: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Old26
      Ну что поделать, если у нас всегда находили любители "прогнуться". А так и была стройная система, особенно у авианесущих и вертолетоносцев:

      Yes, in the original version the system was.
      But here the question arises: why were these the largest ships of the fleet named after the system previously used to name the leaders of the destroyers? smile

      А "Кузнецов" - это особая статья... это ж надо, чтобы даже на борту ТАВКР не хватило места, чтобы написать имя корабля в одну строчку.
      Personal of His Imperial Highness Prince Kearn of the four golden banners of the name of the mountain eagle bomb carrier ... I remember the soldier was forced to memorize by heart ... Private such-and-such, name the personal bomb carrier of his Imperial Highness! And he used to call ... Yes ...
  32. Parsec
    Parsec 13 October 2015 20: 09 New
    +3
    Quote: Nissa-on
    P.S. А Вы знаете ,что "Ретвизан" по шведски -"слон"? ))))


    No. Rattvisa in Swedish Justice, and elephant in Swedish elefant.
    1. Pauls_77
      Pauls_77 14 October 2015 05: 49 New
      0
      Good afternoon! As far as it is known, Retvizan is the name of an epic hero-hero in whose honor the battleship was named.
  33. propolsky
    propolsky 13 October 2015 20: 24 New
    +1
    A worthy name in Russian history. Let them build, our history is rich in great names.
  34. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 13 October 2015 20: 25 New
    +4
    Quote: Baikonur
    I would also mention Ivan the Terrible at naming!

    It is time to call the names of people more modern to us, namely, the name of the undeservedly slandered I.V. Stalin, in the era of which Russia rebuilt its industry twice in 25 years, like a Phoenix bird from the fire! Then, adherents of Trotsky’s teachings ruined the USSR for 30 years of oblivion this great figure of the USSR. Our political opponents recognized this, while Gorbachev was awarded for the collapse of the USSR! No need to be afraid of your story, you need to be able to be proud of it, then no one will dare to groan and turn it around! soldier
  35. Homegoblin
    Homegoblin 13 October 2015 20: 59 New
    +2
    :))))))))))))))))))не бояну ради, а поддержанния статуса "подводников"

    1. A night special communications call woke the commander of the Caspian Flotilla.

    - At the device! said the rear admiral, squinting at his watch.

    “Igor Vladimirovich,” he heard in the pipe the cheerful voice of the Minister of Defense. - Do you still have rusty and non-flying Caliber missiles?

    - These are the ones that fly a maximum of three hundred kilometers? - asked the commander.

    - I got a joke! Well done! - answered Shoigu. - Listen to the battle order!

    Having listened to the order, the rear admiral jumped into his tunic, looked at the photo, where he stood embracing the commanders of the Pacific and Northern fleets and smiled triumphantly:

    - Well, Seryoga and Vovka? Who is "floating in shallow kayak"?

    Five minutes later, the rocket ship of the 11661 Dagestan project made its first launches.

    Ten minutes later, the frustrated Northern Fleet Commander called the Minister of Defense to allow him to support the Caspian sailors ’initiative by launching the Bulava from the Yuri Dolgoruky submarine-launched cruiser.

    - One small start! - Admiral boomed. - One small such "Bulava" ...

    - quit! - Shoigu decisively ordered, imagining a “small Mace” and shuddering. - The whole and united Syria in the region does not mean - Syria, the only surviving in the region. After all, there are still many different and original countries!

    - Yes? - surprised the admiral. “It's just that I can't see the periscope from here, it's to blame!”


    And by noon, the sailor of the rocket ship Arsen Muradov became an icon of the whole of Dagestan, as he managed to write on the cruise missile "Dagi - power!" Before launching


    http://cont.ws/post/133066 - источниг (и полная версия "поржать")
  36. dvina71
    dvina71 13 October 2015 21: 46 New
    0
    Quote: Polar
    "Пока русский император в запое, Россия может подождать".
    Следующий "борей" наверное "Боря Е." назовут, чтобы "александру 3" не скучно было.

    Alexander 3 was certainly not an alcoholic, he loved to drink .. But it was he who carried out the reform of the army. And the navy began to receive armadillos under him. By the way, the reforms were very useful.
  37. Starik72
    Starik72 14 October 2015 02: 11 New
    +5
    That Borey brought in great news !!! But his name was given to him, Tsarist Russia has not existed for almost 100 years, and YOU perpetuate kings who robbed and humiliated people. Better name Joseph Stalin, HE was the great leader of Great Russia - the USSR, and the greatest threat of capitalism and financial oligarchy. It's my opinion. And for this I expect a flurry of MINUSES! Yours faithfully ! Old Man 72.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 14 October 2015 02: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Starik72
      And for this I expect a flurry of MINUSES!

      Whose is that? catch +, get, sign!
      You wrote it right good
    2. Severomor
      Severomor 14 October 2015 09: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: Starik72
      He was the great leader of Great Russia - the USSR, and the greatest thunderstorm of capitalism and the financial oligarchy.


      This is currently not possible.
      If the Red Army defeated Germany without the Commander-in-Chief, the name of the Chairman of the State Defense Committee is not mentioned at any parade, then what name of the ship could be discussed.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 14 October 2015 18: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Severomor
        If the Red Army defeated Germany without the Commander-in-Chief, the name of the Chairman of the State Defense Committee is not mentioned at any parade, then what name of the ship could be discussed.

        Wait, not all at once.
        First they returned the full name of the OMSDON - and began to call it again named after Dzerzhinsky.
        Then the full name of the 4th police department returned from nonexistence - named after Andropov. Ohhh ... how many screams were from the unworthy when she was so named at the parade.

        And there, you see, the matter will reach the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and the Chairman of the GKO. They depicted Lavrenty Pavlovich on a fresco at the station in Yekaterinburg:

        By the way, the one standing with its back to the audience is also well recognized - for, despite all the chronological inaccuracies, the scene is depicted of the famous: athletic best friend checks plutonium sphere heating. smile
  38. YaMZ-238
    YaMZ-238 14 October 2015 09: 56 New
    -1
    The next boat should be called Emperor Alexander II ... There was a worthy ruler! He deserved to have such a wonderful boat named after him.
    1. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 15 October 2015 09: 11 New
      -1
      This is a joke?
      And then the name of the destroyer of the Great Fleet, created under Catherine, Alexander I?

      Ship names should be treated with caution, without political addiction.
      The sailors are moderately superstitious, and being in a storm with a political slogan on board is not what the Russian sailors deserve.

      А если власть сменится, опять будем сначала "Молотов" переименовывать в "Славу", а при следующем повороте "Славу" в "Москву"?
  39. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 14 October 2015 20: 39 New
    0
    Quote: Starik72
    Better name Joseph Stalin, HE was the great leader of Great Russia - the USSR, and the greatest thunderstorm of capitalism and the financial oligarchy. It's my opinion. And for this I expect a flurry of MINUSES! Yours faithfully ! Old Man 72.

    Do not be timid old man, break through! drinks
  40. Manul
    Manul 15 October 2015 00: 59 New
    +1
    Eh, I forgot to say the most important thing. No one will read it already. And I would have put Alexander the Second higher than the Third. We’ll configure submarines for all the great ones, but the Second one really did hurt. When everyone is afraid of you, it’s possible to arrange a golden age. Without war. But you try to live without war, when there is no way without it ..