How to Resist Putin’s Aggression (New York Post, USA)

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There is bewilderment everywhere - from Washington to London, from Berlin to Ankara. How can Vladimir Putin with his weak economy and a second-rate army constantly dictate the course of geopolitical events?

Sometimes politicians react with mockery: it is a sign of weakness. Or complacency: sooner or later he will regret his decision to intervene. Or anxiety: it will only exacerbate an already difficult situation. And finally, with humility: it is possible that Russia should cooperate in order to stabilize the situation, and its help will be useful to us in the fight against the Islamic state.

In fact, Putin is extremely capable of playing weak cards, because he knows exactly what he wants to achieve. He does not seek to stabilize the situation in accordance with our definition of stability. He defends Russia's interests by helping Syrian President Bashar al-Assad stay in power.

And the point here is not in an Islamic state. Any rebel group that opposes Russia's interests is, from the point of view of Moscow, a terrorist one. We watched it in Ukraine, and now we see it in a more aggressive form - bombings and cruise missiles - in Syria.

Putin cannot be called a sentimental man, and if Assad turns into a burden, Putin will happily agree to replace him. But for now, Russia believes that it (along with Iran) will be able to save Assad.

President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry say that there can be no military solution to the Syrian crisis. This is true, but Putin understands that diplomacy in any case follows the path dictated by facts on the ground — and not at all the other way round.

Russia and Iran create the facts that are in their hands. As soon as this military intervention is exhausted, we must prepare for such a proposal for a peaceful settlement from Moscow, which will reflect its interests.

We must remember that Moscow defines the concept of success differently than we do. Russia has already demonstrated its willingness to accept and even facilitate the formation of so-called incompetent states and frozen conflicts from Georgia and Moldova to Ukraine.

And the quality of life of the local population does not matter. The Russian definition of success does not imply concern for the harsh living conditions of the Syrian people.

Putin’s intervention in Syria is a reflection of the principles of the outdated policies of the great powers. (Yes, some countries continue to follow them even in the 21 century.) He gains a certain domestic benefit, but he does not at all try to transfer his internal political problems to the outside.

Russia's domestic policy and foreign policy have always been closely intertwined. The Russian government feels its strength on the domestic political scene only when it feels power on the world stage, and the Russian people believe it, at least for now. Russia is a great power, and its self-esteem is directly related to its influence in the world. What more can be said? When was the last time you bought Russian goods and it was not gasoline? Moscow again influenced international politics, and the Russian armed forces again set off on a foreign campaign.

It should also be understood that attempts to give Putin a lecture on his bad behavior are meaningless. The last time Russia regretted its foreign campaign was Afghanistan. But the Afghan campaign began after Ronald Reagan armed the Mujahideen with the Stinger anti-aircraft missile systems, with which they began to shoot down Russian military aircraft.

So what can we do? First, it is necessary to reject the argument that Putin merely responds to the world's turmoil. This view implies that Putin is simply trying to preserve the existing system in the Middle East in response to the chaos that the United States has provoked in Iraq, Libya and other countries. Putin really responds to events in the Middle East. He sees a vacuum created as a result of our doubts about the need to actively intervene in the affairs of countries such as Libya and uphold their positions in Iraq. But Putin as a defender of international stability? Unlikely.

Secondly, we must create our own facts on the ground. No-fly zones and safe havens for civilians are not “thoughtless” proposals. They had been used successfully before (they defended the Kurds under the regime of terror of Saddam Hussein for 12 years) and deserve serious consideration.

Refugees will continue to arrive in Europe until people feel safe. Moreover, the support of the Kurdish forces, the Sunni tribes and what remains of the Iraqi special forces is not at all nonsense. Perhaps it will even save our current strategy.

A determined desire to take all these steps will strengthen our relations with Turkey, which is suffering from the consequences of Moscow’s intervention. In short, we must create a healthier military balance of power if we want to achieve such an agreement on a peaceful settlement that is acceptable to us and our allies.

Third, we must ensure that our military operations in Syria do not contradict the operations of Russia. This is unpleasant, and we shouldn’t have been led to such a situation when Russia warns us to withdraw from its path. However, we must do everything possible to prevent a clash between Russia and the United States.

Finally, we must recognize who Putin really is. We need to stop talking about the fact that we want to better understand the motives of Russia. The Russians are well aware of their goals: they want to protect their interests in the Middle East by any means. What is this incomprehensible?
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  1. +9
    13 October 2015 14: 47

    First, the argument that Putin is simply responding to world turmoil must be rejected.

    Putin is really responding to events in the Middle East.

    1. +29
      13 October 2015 14: 54
      When was the last time you bought Russian goods and it was not gasoline?


      Rocket engines, delivery of astronauts and cargo to the ISS, titanium parts in Boeing, Kaspersky, Kalashnikov ...

      Sorry, we sew T-shirts and caps, we hang plastic hangers for clothes and plastic bottles, but there is no export to America

      1. +10
        13 October 2015 14: 59
        we must ensure that our military operations in Syria do not contradict Russian operations. This is unpleasant, and we should not have brought to a situation where Russia warns us of the need to leave its path.
        And why not stand on the line of our fire.
        1. +10
          13 October 2015 15: 20
          How can Vladimir Putin, with his weak economy and second-rate army, constantly dictate the course of geopolitical events?

          "... The second grade is not marriage" - our school worker used to say. laughing laughing laughing
          And about the second-rate character of our army, this is how to say, how to say ...
          1. +22
            13 October 2015 15: 40
            Quote: smerx24
            And about the second-rate character of our army, this is how to say, how to say ...

            Yes, it's generally by and large nothing! If the people did not notice, then the whole article is riddled with Americanism on the contrary ... they took and prescribed their values, inserting Russia instead of the USA.
            And the quality of life of the local population does not matter. The Russian definition of success does not imply concern about the difficult living conditions of the Syrian people.

            That is, the quality of life of Iraq, Libya, Ukraine and other countries is hushed up after help from friendly pi.ndo.sov (Egypt, Tunisia ... despite .. the problems remained there, brought up on the wave of revolutions)
            Further....
            Russia is a great power, and its self-esteem is directly related to its influence in the world. What more can be said? When was the last time you bought Russian goods and it was not gasoline?

            Hmm, and that is what people who have direct telephone contact with God tell us. Clearly self-esteem modest.
            B ** and when gentlemen Americans flew the last time into space on their own? when did they last do their own titanium for Boeing on their own? These earhooks fly on the Russian frame! a frame that does not allow their air bodies to fall apart.
            When they abandoned the Russian TVELs ... the whole article is a substitution of concepts and clichés.

            Putin cannot be called a sentimental person

            Tryndets .... Kondoklizma Rice talked about sentimentality?

            Here it is generally mixed ...
            The last time Russia regretted her foreign campaign was Afghanistan. But the Afghan campaign began after Ronald Reagan armed the Mujahideen with Stinger anti-aircraft missile systems, with which they began to shoot down Russian military aircraft.

            Russia did not lose in Afghanistan, the abandoned government held on until Yeltsin merged / moose.
            I won’t talk about the rest .. we refer to the difficulties of translation ... but I will answer in the words of Konoshenkov
            Igor Konashenkov, spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry, responded to Pentagon chief Ashton Carter, who publicly predicted Russia's heavy military losses in Syria. The Russian major-general called such statements by the United States "the height of cynicism", stressing that Moscow never allowed itself to predict the death of American soldiers, even if they considered the actions of the United States in a particular military operation to be wrong

            Everything is good with conscience, we are not rotten ******* s
            1. +4
              13 October 2015 18: 27
              Quote: Scoun
              . Condysma

              Not much that can be added to your comment. That's right. But here is the name, KO ... house + KLISMA. To the point.
            2. +3
              13 October 2015 18: 41
              Right. "Everyone judges by himself."
            3. +3
              13 October 2015 19: 10
              Quote: Scoun
              If the people did not notice, then the whole article is riddled with Americanism on the contrary ... they took and prescribed their values, inserting Russia instead of the USA.

              I had exactly the same impression. Everything converges if in this article Russia and the USA are interchanged. I read, I think what kind of nerd wrote this? The name of the author said a lot ... I was not at all surprised.
            4. +4
              13 October 2015 20: 22
              Quote: Scoun
              Tryndets .... Kondoklizma Rice talked about sentimentality?

              This article should be taken as a warning. Both C. Rise and R. Gates are not inflated quantities in American politics and the US establishment, they are much more significant than today's leaders in these posts. Therefore, I added the article. Forewarned is forearmed. What are the main ideas of the article?
              1. Putin is the leader of a second-rate country with a second-rate army. Putin is pursuing a policy of the great powers of the 20th century that is outdated today, which is unacceptable in the 21st century, and is replaying Western leaders.
              2. Recognizing the chaos created by the USA in North Africa and the Middle East, the authors are skeptical of justifying Putin’s actions by striving to bring order to this chaos, claiming that he simply fills the vacuum, catches a fish in troubled water, etc.
              3. Call on the leaders of the United States again, as was the case in Libya and Iraq, to ​​establish no-fly zones in Syria and create "safe havens" on the ground for civilians. This will supposedly bring stability to the region and reduce the number of refugees.

              I do not even want to object to 1 point. Against the background of Western leaders, Putin looks like a giant who replayes them completely. It’s like an Olympic champion against second-rate students. Rise and Gates reassure the West with these words, arming at the same time: do not be afraid, HE is not so scary! crying
              A.2 follows from the first. The Europeans messed with the Americans, implementing the ideas of the "Arab Spring" and the policy of controlled chaos, the chaos became uncontrollable, and they simply do not know what to do. Russia intervened, a real rival appears, even an enemy - here he is, guys! Yes

              A.3 - These red dividing lines, no-fly zones, etc. It’s easy to declare, but WHAT will the USA do if Russia continues to send its planes to launch assault attacks on militants? Shoot down our planes? Do not tell, these people at the US leadership will not take such a risk! Will they pretend that nothing happened? Then, and so little authority of the current president of the United States will fall generally below the baseboard! So it follows that they will sluggishly curse our actions, sluggishly oppose, without taking anything serious in reality. They simply do not have a serious answer in the zashashnik. request
              I think that these statements of frenzied American hawks should be regarded as some sort of a touch for the election campaign in the United States. They make noise, they make noise - and nothing more. bully
          2. +4
            13 October 2015 19: 47
            But the title of the article is completely inconsistent with the content! it seems that the authors, Condoleezza Rice and Robert Gates, diverted attention with an anti-Russian headline, and in fact they shouted to their current rulers: yes, finally blow your eyes! Russia is a great country and we are losing to it now! To stop our rout, learn to take into account the interests of Russia!
            But they do not seem to be heard. And thank God. Let them go deeper
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        3. +2
          14 October 2015 02: 52
          No-fly zones and safe havens for civilians are not “thoughtless” proposals at all. Previously, they have already been successfully used (they defended the Kurds under the regime of terror of Saddam Hussein for 12 years) and deserve serious consideration.

          The Americans have already created them .. in Europe it was not in vain that they rushed there laughing
      2. +16
        13 October 2015 15: 02
        How to Resist Putin’s Aggression (New York Post, USA)

        Does he look like an aggressor? Do not force him to answer and everything will be fine!
      3. +8
        13 October 2015 15: 26
        Putin cannot be called a sentimental person, and if Assad turns into a burden, Putin will gladly agree to his replacement. But for now, Russia believes that it (together with Iran) will be able to save Assad.

        Deaf in the West and the USA or what? The obsessive, manic idea to remove Assad.
        It’s not specifically Assad who’s being saved, he and his family would simply be taken out of the country, COUNTRY save.
        Assad and kirdyk to the country will fall. Blood will be shed not measured. Not the "moderate" opposition will take the place of Assad, but ISIS.
        Well, "do not change horses at the crossing"!
        1. +3
          13 October 2015 19: 16
          Quote: zanoza
          Deaf in the West and the USA or what? The obsessive, manic idea to remove Assad.
          Not specifically, Assad is being saved, he and his family would simply be taken out of the country, the COUNTRY is being saved.
          Assad and kirdyk to the country will fall. Blood will be shed not measured. Not the "moderate" opposition will take the place of Assad, but ISIS.
          Well, "do not change horses at the crossing"!

          You speak common truths, but these truths very slowly reach some especially "gifted" on Capitol Hill and in the White House. Putin at the UN directly asked them what they had done, but obviously they did not understand at all what they were talking about
      4. +3
        13 October 2015 15: 59
        Quote: bulvas
        Rocket engines, delivery of astronauts and cargo to the ISS

        chemical products, nuclear energy - our export is far from the layman. And one more little nuance. I haven't seen American products in a while, except for brands and films. all Taiwan, China, Malaysia "on request ...."
      5. 0
        13 October 2015 16: 48
        How? ... of course in a knee-log position ... so more productive)))) and you’re more familiar
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      7. +2
        13 October 2015 18: 38
        Quote: bulvas
        When was the last time you bought Russian goods and it was not gasoline?


        Rocket engines, delivery of astronauts and cargo to the ISS, titanium parts in Boeing, Kaspersky, Kalashnikov ...

        Sorry, we sew T-shirts and caps, we hang plastic hangers for clothes and plastic bottles, but there is no export to America

        Kalash, Makarov, sagya and boar are very well sold out in the USA. As well as cartridges. I saw it myself in Virginia. I went there in a couple of weapons stores.
        1. +5
          13 October 2015 21: 01
          I am in Texas, you will not believe me, in the supermarket I have dedicated a whole department of clothes from St. Petersburg. Moreover, the store sells elite clothes, not Valentino from Albania.
      8. +1
        13 October 2015 22: 28
        Quote: bulvas
        Sorry, we sew T-shirts and caps, we hang plastic hangers for clothes and plastic bottles, but there is no export to America

        -----------------------
        The last time I bought food in the store, everything was domestic - bread, kefir, chocolate, beer, dumplings, sour cream, apples ... Well, that's how it is ...
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    4. +2
      13 October 2015 18: 14
      Eh Scandolysis, Scandolysis.
  2. +5
    13 October 2015 14: 48
    Do Americans recognize that Putin rules? How low the performance of Obama’s policies fell.
    1. +6
      13 October 2015 14: 51
      The whole world already recognizes this, but they say it very carefully.
    2. -9
      13 October 2015 15: 06
      We made some noise - yes. We showed at the right time - yes. Meanwhile, the "loser" Obama quietly created the Pacific Trade Partnership. And the Transatlantic will be, no matter what we say about the blather of "protesters Germans." These are grandiose things for decades to come, such that we and even China will feel cramped in this world. And Ukraine will defiantly give as much money as they ask for, and - turn it into a serious problem. It's another matter that such grandiose communities are extremely poorly managed, they can easily bring in ... And we need to behave ... more fundamental, more thoroughly or something.
      1. +5
        13 October 2015 15: 48
        Quote: Azitral
        And we need to behave ... more fundamentally, thoroughly or something

        Type of nuclear weapons offer? Perhaps this is fundamental and thorough.
        The creation of the TPP, TAP began almost before the creation of the BRICS. And what is great and fundamental, what are the sky-high results ... Unless they "agreed", they agreed on BRICS earlier and the efficiency is greater.
      2. +1
        13 October 2015 18: 23
        are you panicking?
      3. +3
        13 October 2015 18: 45
        health
        you dear as it is not friends with time. sorry. do you think Russia first hit the igil, and then the Americans entered into an agreement in Asia? in my opinion, at first Russia entered into an agreement with China, then the Americans entered into an agreement with the one with whom it could, running, running .... and only after that Russia was hammering on the terrorists.
        that treaty is American with Vietnam and other GIANTS of the economy, EXCEPT KOREA. will hold on while Vietnam and other economic giants are afraid to spit on America. as soon as they stop being afraid to tell the Americans, let’s go .... America will go far and for a long time.
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    3. +1
      13 October 2015 15: 07
      .. The Russians are well aware of what their goals are: they want to protect their interests in the Middle East by any means. What is incomprehensible in this? ...

      Author Kondoliza Rays (Condoleezza Rice) Robert Gates (Robert M. Gates)

      As all the same, the power component helps to think.
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  3. +5
    13 October 2015 14: 48
    "We must ... America must ... etc .." Rhetoric, like our liberals in the government. One breed, g.a.d. I hope that one end awaits them in the end.
  4. +2
    13 October 2015 14: 51
    Really it came to some that if Russia asks not to get in the way, then this must be done, or at least listen.
  5. +7
    13 October 2015 14: 51
    It seems to me that it makes no sense to comment on the articles of these two "authors"! They have long and reliably established themselves as "inveterate" shitcrats!
  6. +6
    13 October 2015 14: 52
    Posted by Condoleezza Rice, Robert M. Gates

    Here the logic and arguments are powerless. They live in a world invented for them. And they will kill any dissent, if they can.
    1. +2
      13 October 2015 15: 27
      Posted by Condoleezza Rice, Robert M. Gates


      These already simply live, at the sunset of the power of democrats (donkeys). And they wrote from what the party said: “Well, why are you silent?” Grunt that aired! ..... Grunted.
    2. +5
      13 October 2015 15: 56
      That's right, if they can.
    3. +1
      13 October 2015 19: 04
      Quote: A-Sim
      Posted by Condoleezza Rice, Robert M. Gates

      Here the logic and arguments are powerless. They live in a world invented for them. And they will kill any dissent, if they can.

      All topsy-turvy, will come to philanthropy only as a result of "shock therapy", preferably on their territory.
  7. +2
    13 October 2015 14: 52
    And the quality of life of the local population does not matter. The Russian definition of success does not imply concern for the harsh living conditions of the Syrian people.

    But the Americans simply @ carelessly care about the quality of life in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan. There is still prosperity, an economic miracle.
  8. +2
    13 October 2015 14: 53
    After Lizka’s signature under the article, you can no longer read. That's why these unmarried crocodiles are so angry and stubborn?
  9. +2
    13 October 2015 14: 55
    Everyone is waiting for Putin to leave his post, and then the destruction of Russia will begin with the help of such as Kasyanov and other opponents of the Putin regime.
  10. +2
    13 October 2015 14: 55
    Written by Condoleezza Rice, Robert M. Gates, Condoleezza Rice served as US Secretary of State from 2005 to 2009. Robert Gates was US Secretary of Defense from 2006 to 2011.
    =========================
    They apparently chopped up a couple, and then it became boring and decided to pile something like that. Why did I read this x ... nude?
  11. +1
    13 October 2015 14: 57
    So, it even slowly comes to striatum that in the world there are not only their interests. They understand to the extent of their depravity, of course, but at least they began to recognize the existence of some other force besides their own.
  12. +2
    13 October 2015 14: 59
    Quote: bulvas
    When was the last time you bought Russian goods and it was not gasoline?


    Rocket engines, delivery of astronauts and cargo to the ISS, titanium parts in Boeing, Kaspersky ...

    Sorry, we sew T-shirts and caps, we hang plastic hangers for clothes and plastic bottles, but there is no export to America

    More nuclear energy, fertilizers and rare earth metals
  13. +2
    13 October 2015 15: 00
    A determined desire to take all these steps will strengthen our relations with Turkey, which is suffering from the consequences of the Moscow intervention.

    The poor suffered directly.
  14. +2
    13 October 2015 15: 01
    "And the quality of life of the local population is irrelevant. The Russian definition of success does not imply concern about the dire living conditions of the Syrian people."

    This is written by people whose Air Force bombed houses, weddings, hospitals, etc.
  15. +2
    13 October 2015 15: 07
    Putin cannot be called a sentimental person, and if Assad turns into a burden, Putin will gladly agree to his replacement.


    Bravo, bravo, bravo, American amigos. Although not. It’s your policy to remove governments when they cease to be necessary for you. Remember Hussein, whom you nurtured, and after you no longer needed him, they declared him a rogue, a fraud, an enemy and, in the end, hanged him. It does not bother you to remember another leader - Gaddafi. With what joy you attribute to us your exploits. Really, not worth it.
  16. 0
    13 October 2015 15: 13
    Hegemons are nervous.
  17. +2
    13 October 2015 15: 13
    (C) How to counter Putin's aggression

    The whole problem lies in the fact that it is not necessary, while creating hotbeds of tension yourself, to perceive as aggression what in fact is not aggression. Living in a communal apartment, you shouldn't consider your neighbor's wife as your own just because she lives with you in the same apartment. And to be indignant when a neighbor breaks your face for this is completely stupid. The ruling circles of the West are very mistaken when they consider all the neighbors on the planet incapable of interceding for the honor of their States and helping others to fight those who are mad with greed and are willing to live only by the "Right of the Strong". It's time to return to reality, otherwise they can help stay in another dimension.
  18. +1
    13 October 2015 15: 14
    So what can we do? First, it is necessary to reject the argument that Putin merely responds to the world's turmoil. This view implies that Putin is simply trying to preserve the existing system in the Middle East in response to the chaos that the United States has provoked in Iraq, Libya and other countries. Putin really responds to events in the Middle East. He sees a vacuum created as a result of our doubts about the need to actively intervene in the affairs of countries such as Libya and uphold their positions in Iraq. But Putin as a defender of international stability? Unlikely.

    Everything is said in this paragraph. Putin is preventing the creation of chaos, and this is in Russia's interests. But I want to denigrate, tk. arguments are still "must be rejected", "unlikely" and are not subject to doubt.
  19. +1
    13 October 2015 15: 15
    Thirdly, we must make sure that our military operations in Syria do not contradict the operations of Russia. This is unpleasant, and we should not have brought to a situation where Russia warns us of the need to leave its path.

    And the author of these cables is Condoleezza Rice ?! belay
    Verily, the marvelous works of Yours, Lord!
  20. 0
    13 October 2015 15: 25
    who will be after PUTIN ????, and what will we do? - the eternal question !!!
  21. +1
    13 October 2015 15: 25
    The Russians understand very well what their goals are: they want to protect their interests in the Middle East by any means. What is incomprehensible in this?

    Is this aggression? Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yugoslavia ... continue? It is we to blame for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in these and dozens of other countries ???
    2009, Gaddafi speaks at the UN. With the words: after the Second World War, a member of the UN Security Council staged coups in more than 60 countries, while more people died than in the entire Second World War, tore off the UN charter and threw it over the shoulder to the presidium. good
    Syria now has the same meaning as the Balkans 100 years ago. It’s hard for me to believe that the five youths organized and attempted the assassination of Ferdinand. For some reason, in articles detailing this assassination attempt, the authors bypass the participation of the arrogant Saxons in financing and creating this battle group.
    And today, again, the arrogant Saxons, like jackals aimed at Syria to destroy it as part of their global project to control the production of hydrocarbons and their transportation routes. And again, Russia is on their way. Russia in Syria is fighting terrorists, because they will come to us and to Geyrop, which will be a gonry for Geyropa. That's just Geyropa does not understand and how a harlot actively waving naglosaksam. fool Ugh on them, bad ... am angry am
  22. +2
    13 October 2015 15: 28
    When was the last time you bought Russian goods and it was not gasoline?

    Already wrote here once, but I repeat. All the furniture in the house, 80% of the materials used in the repair, 60 percent of household appliances, almost all the clothes, almost everything that I eat, everything is Russian! So, don’t ...
    PS Recently I bought an aquarium, also of domestic production. Well, if in the USA there are no Russian goods, so there are no American ones, everything is Chinese ... wink
  23. +3
    13 October 2015 15: 29
    Take care of the nerves of Lisa and Robert, Putin will do as he sees fit to the great glory of Russia.
  24. +2
    13 October 2015 15: 38
    Crazy delirium of two clinical idiots!
    This review is not worthy of a greater review.
  25. +3
    13 October 2015 15: 55
    How to counter Putin's aggression


    Well, of course, dig in, and - preferably deeper)
  26. +2
    13 October 2015 16: 01
    Domestic policy and foreign policy of Russia have always been closely interconnected


    Here Kondolizka is right, considering that the gangsters of Chechnya, Dagestan, Kabardino-Balkaria have sworn allegiance to ISIS, that is, in fact, ISIS is already in Russia. So, the defeat of ISIS in Syria is a blown up "floor" under the feet of "our ISIS members"
  27. 0
    13 October 2015 16: 13
    Here's how to write so that no one understands anything. This is either a lawyer or a medic.
  28. +3
    13 October 2015 16: 14
    But while we have these guys in our country,
    Let the enemies of Russia know, the condoleezza Rice knows:
    Never scumbag NATO take us!
  29. +2
    13 October 2015 16: 17
    Any rebel group that opposes the interests of Russia is, from the point of view of Moscow, a terrorist group.

    Typically American thinking. To give out their assumptions as hidden motives for Russia's actions and to diligently propose ways to deal with them. This is not treated Unfortunately.
  30. +2
    13 October 2015 16: 41
    Resist how to lick 2 fingers: you just have to sit and not buzz!
  31. 0
    13 October 2015 16: 47
    No way, damn it.
  32. +1
    13 October 2015 16: 55
    Downs ...
    As for the life of the population in Syria, let them go to Libya, the country of victorious democracy. Or to visit ISIS ...
  33. +1
    13 October 2015 17: 16
    (A determined desire to take all these steps will strengthen our relations with Turkey, which suffers from the consequences of the Moscow intervention.)

    What are you talking about, fry unfinished?

    Question: "Is it true that Russia invaded Turkey?"

    Answer: "firstly, not Russia, but the United States; it did not invade, but torn it clean; not Turkey, but Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan; and the rest is all true."

    And all of this dialogue should strengthen relations between Turkey and the United States to the joy of Rice and McCain. bully
  34. +1
    13 October 2015 17: 29
    How to counter Putin’s aggression? And who said that this is aggression is not Putin said.
    However, the answer to the question is simple, how can even such a "powerful democratic" state as the USAF resist the rushing locomotive of world history? Here it would be in time to jump off the paths, otherwise you will have to collect pieces later !!!
  35. 0
    13 October 2015 17: 47
    Condoleezza Rice is an example of how to educate "Svidomo" ...

    First, the argument that Putin is simply responding to world turmoil must be rejected. This view implies that Putin is simply trying to maintain the existing system in the Middle East in response to the chaos that the United States provoked in Iraq, Libya, and other countries. Putin is really responding to events in the Middle East. He sees a vacuum created as a result of our doubts about the need for active intervention in the affairs of countries such as Libya and the assertion of our positions in Iraq. But Putin as a defender of international stability? Unlikely.

    It’s funny .. in general, when setting management they set a GOAL, they realize TASKS ...
    What university did she graduate from and what was she taught ...

    Secondly, we must create our own facts on the ground. No-fly zones and safe havens for civilians are not “thoughtless” proposals. They had been used successfully before (they defended the Kurds under the regime of terror of Saddam Hussein for 12 years) and deserve serious consideration.

    Refugees will continue to arrive in Europe until people feel safe. Moreover, the support of the Kurdish forces, the Sunni tribes and what remains of the Iraqi special forces is not at all nonsense. Perhaps it will even save our current strategy.

    A determined desire to take all these steps will strengthen our relations with Turkey, which is suffering from the consequences of Moscow’s intervention. In short, we must create a healthier military balance of power if we want to achieve such an agreement on a peaceful settlement that is acceptable to us and our allies.

    Yeah ... "safe zones" ...

    Third, we must ensure that our military operations in Syria do not contradict the operations of Russia. This is unpleasant, and we shouldn’t have been led to such a situation when Russia warns us to withdraw from its path. However, we must do everything possible to prevent a clash between Russia and the United States.

    Do not stand in the way of the "locomotive" ...
  36. +1
    13 October 2015 17: 48
    more news on aggression:
    ... Lavrov: Russia is ready to help strengthen the army of Afghanistan

    Russia is ready to help strengthen the combat readiness of the army and the security forces of Afghanistan, said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.
    "We are ready and will provide assistance in strengthening the combat capability of the army and security forces of Afghanistan, where the military-political situation has deteriorated sharply. We will help increase the effectiveness of the Afghan law enforcement forces, contribute to the advancement of the process of national reconciliation," Lavrov said at a reception on the occasion of the Muslim New Year ...
    Earlier on Tuesday, Russia's permanent representative to NATO, Alexander Grushko, said that the Afghan security forces could not cope with the situation in the country without external assistance, into which 4 Islamic State militants had already infiltrated.
  37. +1
    13 October 2015 17: 48
    Psychologists call this projection. Seeing all their complexes and problems in others. The USA are sick in the head, and the medicine for this disease is called "pizdyulin". And the doctor actually remained, as in the old days, alone, Russia.
  38. 0
    13 October 2015 17: 50
    I wanted to do a detailed analysis ... But I thought "what for?" But I will still comment on a few initial passages, it is too revealing
    In fact, Putin is extremely skillful at playing weak cards because he knows exactly what he wants to achieve.
    Already looks like nonsense. What kind of game is this where weak cards constantly win? Moreover, as a rule, the one who knows exactly what he wants to achieve. Already with this phrase, I had suspicions of inadequacy
    He does not seek to stabilize the situation in accordance with our definition of stability.
    You will agree, I would like to somehow get acquainted in general terms, but what is included in "their" definition of stability? It's like "to achieve order and tranquility", but nothing that the cemetery is also calm and order?
    He defends the interests of Russia, helping Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to remain in power.
    The design is strong only by its peremptory character. I do not see a direct connection, although I think one should not be ashamed that Russia is helping Assad to hold out. And to say, as the Americans once did: "Somoza is a son of a bitch, but this is our son of a bitch." And that's all. Don't make excuses anymore.
    And the point is not in the Islamic state. Any rebel group that opposes the interests of Russia is, from the point of view of Moscow, a terrorist group. We watched it in Ukraine,
    I have a simple question: if it’s not the IG, which, incidentally, defiantly and with impunity cuts the heads of subjects of Western countries, then what is the coalition led by the United States doing and what exactly did they observe in Ukraine? Rebels who do not act in the interests of the United States? But after this question, the continuation of the phrase is completely baffled:

    and now we are observing this in a more aggressive form - bombs and cruise missiles - in Syria.
    I sincerely do not understand anything. No, I understand why this is all said and written, but after all, those who defecate it all are not able to observe even elementary logic. On this I propose a discussion not to develop drinks
  39. +1
    13 October 2015 18: 07
    You also need to understand that trying to give a lecture to Putin about his bad behavior is pointless.


    Well why so! Putin is a perfectly sane person and is ready to patiently listen to someone else's opinion, if this is not a tedious and hypocritical moralizing with a sense of superiority, using double standards and false statements. Maybe you should try at least once to talk on equal terms, without any tweaks?
  40. +1
    13 October 2015 18: 16
    One wants to ascribe - Pravdorub Vladimir and dolborub Barak
  41. +2
    13 October 2015 18: 26
    "... a second-rate army ..."

    Even a superficial acquaintance with the performance of the US Army over the past century uniquely qualifies it as a waste of the body. (I beg your pardon for the tautology).
  42. +1
    13 October 2015 18: 53
    health
    useful article. set MINUS. the usefulness of an article in understanding how Americans perceive the world. all of them, to put it mildly stupid, all their hopes in this article.
    at first, the author told that yesterday he and Vovka Putin ate vodka, and Vovan, such a straight sidekick, as a friend to him, told the whole truth about the womb .... then this analyst, invented from himself this uterus truth. Then, on the basis of it, he concluded. what can I say? the author needs to learn.
  43. 0
    13 October 2015 19: 56
    The article is as der * mo as the Condoleezza itself.
  44. +1
    13 October 2015 20: 08
    This article is reminiscent of the thought of an eunuch on how to have children.
  45. +1
    13 October 2015 20: 35
    everyone sees the world to the extent of their own corruption. that’s all about this dirty paper (article).
  46. +1
    13 October 2015 20: 51
    Americans write that intervention is an outdated policy. Well then, the states are the most obsolete power! wink
  47. +1
    13 October 2015 20: 53
    How can I not recall Zadornov, how he saw through these Americans, and for a long time.
  48. +1
    13 October 2015 21: 23
    As Comrade Stalin said, "If our enemies scold us, then we are doing everything right."
  49. 0
    13 October 2015 21: 30
    I have only one question - How can one degenerate like this ??? After all, there were Roosevelt, Churchill, Hitler in the West (yes, they were the city governor and fascist, BUT almost all Germans followed him after the restoration of the country) ... Although we have degeneration, it is not so strong (Putin cannot be compared either with Stalin or with early Brezhnev, and it’s better to keep silent about Medvedev)
  50. +1
    13 October 2015 21: 38
    I was interested in the title of the article, opened, flipped down to see who the author was. Ah, G.ondoliza-aaaa! fellow It is clear: a psak-like creature, they haven't heard it for a long time; what are the elections close? Comrades, I don’t understand where they get such "beautiful" women? After all, look at the faces of these representatives winked prostrate "fair sex", well, everything is like a selection, one "tool" that is done?
  51. +1
    13 October 2015 22: 16
    What kind of “genius” do you have to be to first offer support to the Kurds, and then strengthen relations with the “best friend of the Kurds” - Erdogan’s Turkey???
    America is truly a strong country - any other country with such idiots in power would have collapsed long ago.
  52. +1
    13 October 2015 22: 41
    Am I the only one with the impression that a monkey remains a monkey in politics? Moreover, in any position, be it president, adviser, or head of the State Department.
  53. 0
    13 October 2015 23: 46
    how how... head in the sand and come what may I'm talking about How to resist Putin's aggression fellow
  54. 0
    14 October 2015 00: 50
    Ahaha, great article. Particularly interesting from Condoleezza. Where was her common sense when she was moaning under Bush?
  55. 0
    14 October 2015 01: 53
    A provocative title of the article, designed to appeal to the subconscious of naive Americans who salute their flag in the morning. That is, the nail of information is driven in, categorically and brazenly: Putin is the aggressor.
    Repeated nail of lies just below -
    Putin's intervention in Syria reflects the principles of outdated great power politics.

    But Russia, and not Putin, acts within the framework of international law and at the request of the legitimate government, not a word is said about this.
    US intervention in Syria - this is how the headlines in our media should sound according to the American model.
    ---
    Another interesting thing is -
    Moreover, the support for Kurdish forces, Sunni tribes and what remains of Iraqi special forces are not nonsense at all. It might even save our current strategy.

    We are not arguing about supporting the “Kurdish” forces, but someone in Washington ALREADY objected to C. Rice - “that this is nonsense.” I wonder who?
  56. 0
    14 October 2015 02: 47
    Valiant gay Europeans look only at external data, if a jock (economics, army and other show-off bastards) means he’s a real guy. Almost like in schools: a tenth grader can slap fifth graders on the head. And then there was a seventh grader who, in an unknown way to the cool kids, gave the tenth grader his heart's content on Faberge.
  57. 0
    14 October 2015 07: 25
    ""Any rebel group that opposes Russian interests is, from Moscow's point of view, terrorist""
    And anyone who fights for their freedom is terrorist, from the point of view of the states.
    ""However, we must do everything possible to prevent a clash between Russia and the United States""
    Has it finally arrived? We should have used cruise missiles a long time ago - it would have come sooner.
  58. +1
    14 October 2015 21: 45
    Putin...does not seek to stabilize the situation according to our definition of stability


    As always, lies by substituting concepts.
    Russia needs strong friends, America is afraid of strong competitors.
    Russia strives for stability, America for chaos.
    It's funny to read the "American definition of stability." It's not there at all!