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Toyota has no data on how SUVs are delivered to Syria

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The militants of the radical group Islamic State (IG) have at their disposal thousands of Toyota cars of light trucks and SUVs, as evidenced by numerous videos made in Syria, Iraq, and Libya.




According to her, the US authorities sent an official request to the Japanese car manufacturer with a request to provide clarification on how a large number of cars fall into the hands of terrorists on a permanent basis.

“At the request of the antiterrorist department of the US Treasury at Toyota, they responded that they do not have information on how IGs acquire cars, but are ready to fully support the investigation of this department, whose activities are also aimed at preventing the possibility of Western goods falling into the hands of terrorists,” Post TV ABC TASS.

The concern also noted that they had already sent a message to the US Treasury with information about all the supply chains of cars in the states of the Middle East. The company also assured that "they follow a strict policy, according to which it is prohibited to sell vehicles to customers who can potentially use or reconstruct them for military and terrorist activities." At the same time, they also stressed that there is no complete control over the supply of cars from the manufacturer to the final customers, given that they can be stolen, bought or resold to intermediaries along the way.

According to the Iraqi ambassador to the United States, in recent years hundreds of new Toyota cars have fallen into the hands of IG terrorists. Most of the militants are popular Land Cruiser and Hilux models, which are used in both terrorist and military operations.

The representative of the concern Toyota in the United States Ed Lise noted that "we have procedures that allow us to prevent the unauthorized use of our products, but it is almost impossible to fully control the bypass and illegal ways through which our vehicles can be supplied illegally."

According to the Japanese company, official sales of Toyota cars in Syria ceased several years ago.
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  1. Siberia55
    Siberia55 8 October 2015 06: 27 New
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    And you ask McCain ... He probably knows. They turned on the fool
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 8 October 2015 06: 30 New
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      Quote: Siberia55
      And you ask McCain ... He probably knows. They turned on the fool

      Видать "честно" расследуют.Прям как по боингу получится.Сами сбили,сами и виновных назначим..
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 8 October 2015 07: 48 New
        +9
        Quote: Allex28
        Видать "честно" расследуют

        What is there to investigate? Cars are civil! Go to the salon, buy a pickup truck and put a DShK - and what about the automaker? But Toyota take it because it is reliable and good cross.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 8 October 2015 07: 55 New
          +4
          Quote: Bayonet
          moreover, the automaker


          Bad post.
          In order to drive thousands of vehicles to a very specific region, you need the appropriate logistics. There are no direct sea or railway delivery routes, large parties must necessarily light up on unloading or on the stage.
          Вот Вы сами как можете объяснить абсолютно одинаковый "пустынный" камуфляж сотен новых автомобилей?
          1. bairat
            bairat 8 October 2015 08: 13 New
            +4
            “There is no crime that capital would not have committed for the sake of 300 percent profit,” Karl Marx.
          2. GRAY
            GRAY 8 October 2015 09: 00 New
            0
            Quote: hydrox
            Вот Вы сами как можете объяснить абсолютно одинаковый "пустынный" камуфляж сотен новых автомобилей?

            Это американцы бородатым тачки подгоняют, пикапы едут из Турции, по любому. Там у США центры подготовки "умеренной оппозиции" - им на "выпускной" такие авто дарят вместе с оружием.
          3. SALLAK
            SALLAK 8 October 2015 09: 05 New
            0
            Объяснений можно массу придумать, а вот какой вариант использовался это вопрос... Но предполагаю что всё проще... вспоминается фильм "оружейный барон", самый подходящий ответ...
          4. Bayonet
            Bayonet 8 October 2015 10: 19 New
            +1
            Quote: hydrox
            Вот Вы сами как можете объяснить абсолютно одинаковый "пустынный" камуфляж сотен новых автомобилей?

            "Пустынного камуфляжа" не наблюдаю, просто светлая окраска популярная в этом регионе, чтобы меньше нагревалась на солнце. Тысяч единиц одинаковой техники тоже не видно, а на фото в статье можно легко различить разный обвес и оттенки окраски даже на десятке автомобилей. Журналистам свойственно преувеличивать smile
          5. Nosgoth
            Nosgoth 9 October 2015 16: 27 New
            0
            The same channel as the oil from ISIS goes only in the opposite direction.
            A lot of investigations, who constantly buys oil from terrorists?
        2. Shuttle
          Shuttle 8 October 2015 09: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: Bayonet
          Quote: Allex28
          Видать "честно" расследуют

          What is there to investigate? Cars are civil! Go to the salon, buy a pickup truck and put a DShK - and what about the automaker? But Toyota take it because it is reliable and good cross.

          What to investigate? Supply chain. The igil cart was dropped, they wrote down the VIN code. They banged the next - again the VIN code. And then the Japs toss these numbers on the subject to whom they delivered. Japs are cunning, write everything down to the end customer. It’s at least known which way each sharpener went.
          And for the purity of the experiment, add clean VIN codes to the list, i.e. spotless cars. In order not to blame everything on Somali pirates. Let each wheelbarrow in Syria be publicly reported. Who, how, when.
          1. GRAY
            GRAY 8 October 2015 09: 49 New
            0
            Quote: Shuttle
            And then the Japs toss these numbers on the subject to whom they delivered.

            There will be, in the documents, a dummy campaign and that’s it - a creative impasse.
          2. anderles66
            anderles66 8 October 2015 10: 13 New
            0
            Знаете, я искренне считаю, что эта шумиха - для подавления конкурентов. Даже если выяснится, что авто продавали ОАЭ, СА ,Катару, Турции, то что даст "расследование"? Ничего, кроме шумихи, потому что никто этим странам не может (скорее не хочет) запретить что-либо покупать. Главный вопрос будет в том, как эти авто из, скажем, Турции попали в ИГИЛ. И что? Разве будут краснет "братья мусульмане", если им укажут на то, что они своим "братьям по вере" продали что-то там? Кроме того, учитывая, что в последнее время ИГИЛ территориально только разрасталось, то что мешает следы авто "потерять" на вновь захваченных территориях7 Или такой вариант - США поставили авто "умеренным", а те, по привычке перешли на сторону ИГИЛ (потеряли). Кто виноват - США?, Нет, "Тойота" repeat
          3. Bayonet
            Bayonet 8 October 2015 10: 30 New
            0
            Quote: Shuttle
            Supply chain. The igil cart was dropped, they wrote down the VIN code. They banged the next - again the VIN code. And then the Japs toss these numbers on the subject to whom they delivered. Japs are cunning, write everything down to the end customer. It’s at least known which way each sharpener went.

            These cars are not assembled in Japan, and the numbers may well lead to some kind of car dealership. Once again I want to emphasize - cars are purely civilian. If some bad person kills someone with a kitchen knife or beats with an iron, will the manufacturer also be to blame? By the way, the ISIS is full of small-arms (and not only) weapons of our production, will we also deal with the manufacturer?
        3. hedgehog in the fog
          hedgehog in the fog 8 October 2015 10: 00 New
          0
          OSCE have such pickups on the Donbass rummage, maybe they customize ??
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 8 October 2015 10: 32 New
            0
            Quote: hedgehog in the fog
            OSCE have such pickups on the Donbass rummage, maybe they customize ??

            And my friend has, maybe ISIS is a scumbag? what
    2. Finches
      Finches 8 October 2015 06: 34 New
      +9
      I think that everything is easier! The children of the rising sun darted a little faster and got their profit by throwing General Motors - that's why the pin.sy and raised a panic! Type ISIS - this is our cow ... laughing
      1. Ayujak
        Ayujak 8 October 2015 06: 41 New
        +5
        Yes you in vain so about Toyota. This, of course, is anti-advertising, but it says that even terrorists recognize the quality of Toyota. And they put it all a gang of Arabs. Although, I think Toyota is cunning or afraid. It is clear, after all, that the sharp jump in sales of a certain model is easy to trace.
      2. inkass_98
        inkass_98 8 October 2015 06: 47 New
        +8
        Everything is out of place there. The performance of the jeeps is deserted, bumper mounts for US / Japan / Emirates / CA format numbers (square-shaped license plate). It would not be hard to understand where the legs grow from. Our need to defiantly capture a couple of samples and punch through VINs. Everything is simple, it will immediately be clear where the vehicle came from, in what configuration and where it went.
        In fact, our Ketai bros are building a sickly business on this, all of North Africa is driving Chinese-made jihad mobiles.
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 8 October 2015 06: 48 New
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        Quote: Finches
        ! Type ISIS - this is our cow ...

        Toyota Official sponsor of ISIS. In short krainego found.
        1. Karasik
          Karasik 8 October 2015 07: 05 New
          0
          Not so long ago there was a comic article about the supplies of Ukrainian ZAZ to militants in Syria. Toyota, unlike ZAZ, is an expensive and reliable car. Everything in this world is decided by money. Toyota company is it profitable? Undoubtedly! So why not supply? Of course they lie that they don’t know where their cars from ISIS come from! ZAZ smokes nervously aside and, with envy, tears his hair in his most intimate places ...
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 8 October 2015 07: 56 New
            +1
            Quote: Karasik
            Not so long ago there was a comic article about the supplies of Ukrainian ZAZ to militants in Syria.

            Garn thing! smile
            1. zeleznijdorojnik
              zeleznijdorojnik 8 October 2015 10: 14 New
              0
              It’s not Hohlathan, but Abkhazian - it showed itself quite well by the way - her ancestor had a TPK (front-end conveyor). The machine is lightweight, disassembled once or twice, if necessary, throwing it over the pass with the forces of 8-10 fighters is quite realistic.
        2. Tra-ta-ta
          Tra-ta-ta 8 October 2015 09: 29 New
          0
          ..yes, yes .., and let them recall their cars from Syria to remake like all respectable manufacturers
    3. vodolaz
      vodolaz 8 October 2015 07: 37 New
      +1
      The Americans were apparently offended that the terrorists didn’t take Ford pickups.
    4. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 8 October 2015 07: 42 New
      0
      Siberia55
      And you ask McCain ... He probably knows. They turned on the fool

      А что япошкам остается делать как не включать "дурочку"-- ОТКАЖЕШЬ СПОНСАРАМ ИГИЛ и НУСРАВЦАМ В ЛИЦЕ КАТАРА ИЛИ САУДОВСКОЙ АРАВИИ...ВМИГ ОСТАНЕШЬСЯ БЕЗ НЕФТИ!!! И тогда "карачун" Японии!Вот и делают вид: Я ТВОЯ НЕ ПОНИМАЙ!!!
  2. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 8 October 2015 06: 29 New
    +6
    I believe that the Saudis arranged deliveries! With their dough, this is quite real than anything, and even the Ottomans are those bastards!
    1. spech
      spech 8 October 2015 06: 34 New
      +5
      I believe that the Saudis arranged deliveries!

      Religion does not allow tracking numbers by details or numbers are interrupted wassat
      1. Penetrator
        Penetrator 8 October 2015 06: 42 New
        +5
        Quote: spech
        Religion does not allow tracking numbers by details or numbers are interrupted

        They paint over them! Can you imagine what a sophisticated oriental insidiousness?
      2. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin 8 October 2015 06: 44 New
        +5
        Quote: spech
        Religion does not allow tracking numbers by details or numbers are interrupted

        Circumcision is done.
  3. Tatarus
    Tatarus 8 October 2015 06: 30 New
    +2
    Someone pays, then some Somali pirates take the boat aboard. So cars get to ISIS (as an option).
    Or the Japanese are changing oil. laughing
  4. ML-334
    ML-334 8 October 2015 06: 32 New
    +7
    Now, if they went to the Fords, the Americans would not have any questions whatsoever.
  5. rosarioagro
    rosarioagro 8 October 2015 06: 32 New
    +2
    It seems that in the Emirates there is assembly production
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 8 October 2015 06: 39 New
      +2
      "Компания BySel уже более 6 лет предлагает своим любимым клиентам продажу новых автомобилей самых известных марок из Объединенных Арабских Эмиратов (ОАЭ).
      You can order new cars from us with delivery to the Regions of Eastern Europe, the CIS, Africa and the Caribbean.
      Обратитесь к нам и получите профессиональные консультации квалифицированного персонала BySel. Мы поможем вам выбрать качественный автомобиль, а также выполним быструю и безопасную доставку авто из ОАЭ с гарантией сервиса!" и там главные предложения на сайте как раз Тойота

      http://www.bysel.ae

      Although they say that the assembly in Oman and the Emirates only warehouses and service centers.
      1. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 8 October 2015 10: 36 New
        0
        Looked - offensively - Toyota at the price of a UAZ-equipped patriot, and customs clearance as much as 700 thousand for an engine of 164 hp
  6. Barakuda
    Barakuda 8 October 2015 06: 32 New
    +1
    Well dumb fool А Саудиты,Катар на что ? тем более все белые на фото. Турция,Ирак.. да и у обезьяны бы еще спросили. "власти" сша блин..
  7. Imperial
    Imperial 8 October 2015 06: 33 New
    +2
    Toyota replied that they did not have information on how IS purchased cars,
    Yeah, how do we believe, we believe - we ourselves are not local, the Americans will press the campaign against the Japanese as well as Volkswagen, minus one more competitor.
  8. Wolka
    Wolka 8 October 2015 06: 33 New
    0
    and why be surprised, IG sell oil at bargain prices, samurai are also not averse to selling their wheelchairs at these prices, all for Feng Shui, everyone is fine, this is a business without politics, however, the Yankees are silent like a fish in a pie about their IG supplies ...
  9. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 8 October 2015 06: 34 New
    +1
    At the request of the anti-terrorism US Treasury Department at Toyota

    Here are the states small packers. At first they drove to Volkswagen, now to Toyota.
    They themselves deliver equipment and weapons to terrorists, and then they themselves spread rot another's image.

    Quote: ML-334
    Now, if they went to the Fords, the Americans would not have any questions whatsoever.

  10. ssn18
    ssn18 8 October 2015 06: 45 New
    +1
    By and large, what's the difference where these jeeps came from or they were already equated with weapons.
    Exceptional campaigns were muddied by a distracting maneuver from something more interesting (as an example, a bombed hospital in Afghanistan).
  11. Oman 47
    Oman 47 8 October 2015 06: 48 New
    +2
    They lie japs. The supply is quite large - hundreds of cars of the same type, painted in the same color. Stuck robust.
    Questions must be posed CORRECTLY.
    Do these warranty cars pass every 15 km. run?
    In a separate branch of Toyota at ISIS? am
  12. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 8 October 2015 06: 51 New
    +2
    And he’s not even used cheaply. Let's just say spent.
    1. Not served
      Not served 8 October 2015 11: 27 New
      0
      They are in our country and in Europe are expensive, there 50% of taxes are sitting. In Portugal, in the salons, the price tag is decrypted, how much the car, how much taxes.
  13. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 8 October 2015 06: 52 New
    +1
    Ahaha, they probably still use leasing and loan programs from Toyota-finans laughing
    Toyota - control your dream! - in a word yes
    But in fact, why the fool, then include both of them? I can tell you the direction ... Ask the UAE, did not try? lol
  14. Tatarus
    Tatarus 8 October 2015 06: 56 New
    +2
    Interestingly and the Japanese did not leave these Toyota cars near Fukushima for a week? Well, for birth control in ISIS.
  15. Oman 47
    Oman 47 8 October 2015 07: 04 New
    0
    Moderate opposition - at reasonable prices! stop
  16. sounddoc
    sounddoc 8 October 2015 07: 29 New
    +1
    "Тойота" - ну прям наивная японская школьница!"Не была,не целовалась,не спала..." Один вопрос - откуда беременность?????
  17. Ilya77
    Ilya77 8 October 2015 07: 46 New
    0
    According to the channel, in 2014, the US State Department sent 43 Toyota SUVs to help the Syrian opposition. It is also reported that over the past two years, more than 800 cars of the Japanese concern have disappeared in Sydney. It is assumed that the vehicles were handed over to the IS militants. (Http://lenta.ru/news/2015/10/07/toyota/)
    That's the whole secret))
    Something the United States first Volkswagen bent with a diesel engine, right now they are trying to Toyota. Apparently they decided to promote their auto industry.
  18. afrikanez
    afrikanez 8 October 2015 07: 56 New
    0
    Full of crap, they themselves set what then to ask from others. Americans are ahead of the curve. This is familiar to us! stop
  19. Bayonet
    Bayonet 8 October 2015 08: 12 New
    +2
    Toyota HiLux - these pickups from Japan can not be called super reliable. This car has become famous for the fact that even with a mileage of 300,000 km, it is not so easy to take out of service, for which the legendary status of “unkillable” was assigned to it. The mileage of some individual specimens crossed the line of 450,000 km without replacement of parts and interference with the structure. The car has won many awards, including the Pickup of the Year.
    Due to its reliability, the car is actively used by rebels in third world countries, where it is made into a kind of “technical equipment” - armed vehicles for the mobile movement of troops. There is even such a thing as “Toyota War” - that’s the name of the last phase of the Chadian-Libyan conflict, which occurred in 1986-1987. Thanks to the use of Toyota HiLux, the Chadian side managed to crush their rivals and win the war.
    According to Ed Lewis, Toyota Director of Public Relations from Washington, ABC News from Washington, during a meeting at the US Treasury Department, company representatives informed the agency "about Toyota's supply chains in the Middle East and the procedures for protecting these supplies." According to him, Toyota has “a tough policy providing for a ban on the sale of vehicles to those who can use or modify them for military or terrorist purposes.” According to Toyota, in 2011, 6 thousand Hilux and Land Cruiser models were officially sold in Iraq, in 2013 this figure increased to 18 thousand, in 2014 decreased to 13 thousand. In Syria, Toyota sales were completely stopped in 2012 by decision of a local dealership. Toyota’s official statement says it’s unaware that any of its dealerships were selling cars to IS militants, but if it becomes known at some point, the company “will take immediate action.”
    Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2826684
    1. cfvfhf
      cfvfhf 8 October 2015 11: 20 New
      +1
      Вряд ли эта модификация HiLux японской сборки. Сколько было обращений по этим авто, у всех VIN начинается на AHT... Цитата"Седьмое поколение пикапов Toyota Hilux дебютировало весной 2005 года. Производство модели одновременно началось в Таиланде, ЮАР, Аргентине и Индонезии. Производство агрегатов рассредоточено по миру. В Таиланде собирают турбодизели, в Индонезии — бензиновые моторы, в Индии — коробки передач. Главные отличия нового Hilux — более прочная лонжеронная рама
  20. ayuric
    ayuric 8 October 2015 08: 32 New
    +1
    Toyota’s official statement says it’s unaware that any of its dealerships were selling cars to IS militants, but if it becomes known at some point, the company “will take immediate action.”
    Well, yes ... the militant came in moderately, showed the ISIS certificate, he was refused :) and reported to the white house?
  21. bubla5
    bubla5 8 October 2015 08: 37 New
    -1
    Bomb the oil terminals of the Eagles in Iraq and they all scatter themselves without dough, here they are Japs for cheap oil and push in exchange for a car
  22. Old26
    Old26 8 October 2015 08: 51 New
    +2
    Quote: Karasik
    Of course they lie that they don’t know where their cars from ISIS come from!


    Quote: afrikanez
    Full of crap, they themselves set what then to ask from others. Americans are ahead of the curve. This is familiar to us!


    Nevertheless, one should not draw such hasty conclusions. If, for example, a certain Arab country (or countries) purchases, for example, 10 thousand Toyota cars (agree that for the Gulf monarchies this is by no means a large number of cars, especially if they are distributed among several states), then the manufacturer having delivered them to the buyer only and is concerned about further service. They do not care who will ride these cars. This is not a military technique "сертификат конечного пользователя". But where these machines of the manufacturer then went by and large does not concern.

    One can imagine (theoretically) a similar situation. Iraq, in addition to military equipment, ordered in Russia, for example, several hundred or thousands of our army UAZs. Another ISIS offensive on Iraq, and the seizure of part of these SUVs. So what? The car factory in response, that UAZ were in the hands of ISIS? Or will we also argue that for the sake of profit (and we also have market relations), our automobile plant specially supplied them there for ISIS and knew about it?

    Guys, do not look for a black cat in a dark room, especially if she is not there. Not worth it. ISIS is not only bearded men with machine guns, it is a rather ramified structure with its own financial flows. You yourself are well aware that they are also trading in oil, and what’s more. There is money, and at the same time, to buy several thousand cars from various countries through dummies is a matter of money and time, and by no means the malicious intent of automakers
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 8 October 2015 11: 03 New
      0
      Quote: Old26

      Guys, do not look for a black cat in a dark room, especially if she is not there.

      But the hands are itchy! drinks
  23. andrejwz
    andrejwz 8 October 2015 11: 51 New
    0
    According to her, the US authorities sent an official request to the Japanese car manufacturer with a request to provide clarification on how a large number of cars fall into the hands of terrorists on a permanent basis.

    Пусть власти США в архивах ЦРУшных пороются. По Афгану в свое время тоже не только "борбухайки" да советская техника ездили. Так что, как с "Калашниковым" - Привыклис!
  24. 23424636
    23424636 8 October 2015 12: 12 New
    -1
    when Tayota is declared the ISIS secret sponsor, then the narrow-eyed ones twitch. And it’s even more fun to break a couple of cruiser’s numbers and ask who they left for direct delivery. I think law enforcement officers will easily promote this topic, especially if Toyota competitors pay them
  25. gukoyan
    gukoyan 8 October 2015 19: 21 New
    +1
    Just Toyota, a great and reliable car, the choice is obvious ...
  26. GDV
    GDV 11 October 2015 08: 39 New
    0
    We just caught an ad: We will exchange oil for SUVs, pickup, without VAT.
    Just a business.