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How Rezun turned into Suvorov?

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In the summer of 1978, GRU resident officer Vladimir Rezun sought asylum in the West. After some time, the defector announced in England, and several years later, one after another, sensational books about the Soviet past began to appear in the West, signed “Victor Suvorov”. Under this odious pseudonym, the traitor to the Motherland Rezun and tried to enter history.


How Rezun turned into Suvorov?

Geneva. Representation of the USSR in the UN. Here, the future writer Viktor Suvorov worked in the diplomatic arena

In fairness it should be recognized that Rezun’s literary and publicistic talent is not taken away, unless, of course, he wrote his books himself, and not a group of obscure literary blacks. But as a scout Rezun himself did not show. In one of the brightest of his literary works - the story "Aquarium" - Rezun persistently holds the following thought: in the Soviet strategic intelligence, all the staff, they say, were divided into two unequal groups. One group is those who bring in their beaks valuable information gathered from the agents they recruited. The second group is all the rest. The first is the elite wolves of intelligence. They are their own masters, they are planning the most complex multi-pass operations, they are forgiven a lot, because the life and work of the Aquarium is built on the principle of "Winners are not judged." Rezun openly admires them, his whole book is a hymn to mother intelligence officers who extract enemy secrets. The lot of the rest - in every way they help and facilitate.

So, in real life Rezun was one of those who helped and assisted the elite. His official “roof” is the Permanent Mission of Russia to the United Nations in Geneva, where he was listed as a third-party clerk. In the GRU Swiss Residency, that is, in his main job, Rezun was also on the pickup. He didn’t show anything special, didn’t recruit a valuable agent, didn’t bring any enemy secrets in his beak. But, probably, he wanted it very much, therefore he sniffed the secret intelligence officer of the British Intelligence Service in the hope of finding interesting sources of information with his help. However, the Englishman was more cunning, and soon Rezun himself fell for it. In “Aquarium”, a book largely autobiographical, Rezun explains the reasons for his failure and, as a result, his escape to the West by not being in the right place at the right time and thus becoming unsuitable for his superiors. He was ordered to be removed, and Rezun, saving his life, was forced to flee to England.


Vladimir Rezun. Beginning of 1970's

But those who knew Rezun well for work at the GRU have another explanation for the cause of the betrayal. The fact is that Rezun showed, to put it mildly, heightened interest in males. On this basis, he met with some foreigner. A foreigner, as it turned out, Rezun skillfully framed the enemy intelligence services, and then began to blackmail. It is now on such "weaknesses" as unconventional sexual orientation, overlooked and even find perverts a lot of excuses. And in the "totalitarian" USSR, these "weaknesses" were considered a crime and were punished under the relevant article of the Criminal Code. So, confused with a foreign homosexual, Rezun committed a criminal offense, which meant not only a prison sentence, but also the end of his foreign career. I had to seek political asylum in England. There have always found and continue to find shelter of all kinds of scammers who are shined on prison beds in their homeland. Here and Rezun sheltered.

There was no sense from him, as from a scout, for Rezun had nothing to do with serious secrets. But his biting feather served Western propaganda in good stead. Once in the West, Rezun quickly realized what books his new owners were interested in, and began writing them at the speed of light. His concept of the start of the Second World War (or rather, not his, but skillfully processed and richly supplied with "evidence") played the role of heavy artillery on the fronts of the information war that the Anglo-Saxons fought against the Soviet Union.


London. The headquarters of the British intelligence. Her employees picked up Rezun on the hook

In the USSR, Vladimir Rezun, the captain of the GRU, who had fled to the West, was sentenced to death in absentia. By the way, Rezun himself, not without pride, reported this at any opportunity: behold, they say how I managed to annoy the system! For this, they say, he suffered ... Then Boris Yeltsin, having become president, forgiven by his supreme decree, a crowd of all traitors and traitors, including Rezun, and the martyr's halo somehow faded away. Later in the books of Rezun, the meticulous researchers found so many frauds, inconsistencies, and distorted quotations that the light image of Rezun the historian was dimmed. But the unlawful image of the traitor has not gone away. And, although the verdict of the Military Collegium of the USSR Supreme Court against Rezun was annulled by Yeltsin’s decree, no one canceled his rightful place in the history of All-Russian betrayal.
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  1. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 10 October 2015 07: 13 New
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    I read these dirty little books of the traitor Rezun, they were littered with our bookstores in the 90s, I read and threw it away so as not to defile my bookshelves with any rubbish. And in general, I regret that the FSB now has no special department for the elimination of traitors, an ice pick is the best reward for these scum.
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 10 October 2015 08: 20 New
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      Quote: Anatol Klim
      And in general, I regret that the FSB now has no special department for the elimination of traitors, an ice pick is the best reward for these scum.

      From where we know. Maybe there is what It's just that scum like rezun no longer deserves attention .. This is waste material. Compost!
      1. Nuar
        Nuar 10 October 2015 08: 50 New
        +6
        In the USSR, Vladimir Rezun, the GRU captain who had fled to the West, was sentenced to death in absentia.
        but this is nonsense, he was denied by so many official representatives, which is even surprising that he still pops up.

        If he was sentenced - by what court, from what date and what case number? Even if a person is being tried in absentia, what is being tried by some kind of "secret court"?
        1. Aleks28
          Aleks28 10 October 2015 08: 59 New
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          Quote: Nuar
          If he was sentenced - by what court, from what date and what case number? Even if a person is being tried in absentia, what is being tried by some kind of "secret court"?

          The paper will endure everything. It was he who "condemned" himself, for greater importance ..
          1. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 10 October 2015 18: 40 New
            +4
            This is the third version of the reason why the rezun defected. She has in common with the second version, the fact that the trap was "honey". Only the second version featured a woman. And then, bam - fagot !!!!! Doubtful.
            1. stroybat ZABVO
              stroybat ZABVO 10 October 2015 21: 46 New
              +7
              I was familiar, for example, with the son and wife of Gordievsky, we were neighbors on the porch in a military town. versions of blue confuse me, in relation to scouts abroad, they closely monitored this and everything.
            2. crazyrom
              crazyrom 11 October 2015 02: 51 New
              +3
              The fact that he was caught in a honey trap is yes (photos from the motel), but it seems he was a woman, and he was married.
            3. vladimir_krm
              vladimir_krm 11 October 2015 21: 06 New
              -1
              In Ukraine, in the 90s or zero on UT-1 there were two or three shows of Polish TV with Rezun. With the translation, naturally. There he admitted that in the Aquarium he lied about the reason for the flight, about the blueness - he hinted, but so that it became clear.
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      2. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 10 October 2015 11: 51 New
        +7
        Quote: Alex28
        From where we know. Maybe there is

        Putin: ... they themselves will bend ... cattle .... pig ...
    2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 10 October 2015 10: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: Anatol Klim
      I read these dirty little books of the traitor Rezun, they were littered with our bookstores

      I remember, on the Internet, gentlemen, historians started a dispute with the residentists. Resonist calls any page of any book a rezun, and the historian agrees to find at least three errors on it :) It seems like historians won laughing
      1. rohl
        rohl 21 October 2015 03: 28 New
        +2
        Can you find this dispute? That's when a whole flock of "anti-rezunists", among which there were very high ranks, staged a "massacre" for Rezun, they came out disgraced! Rezun was not refuted, but dishonored!
    3. anip
      anip 10 October 2015 11: 38 New
      +6
      Quote: Anatol Klim
      I read these dirty little books of the traitor Rezun, they were littered with our bookstores in the 90s, I read and threw it away so as not to defile my bookshelves with any rubbish.

      At that time, I also bought some kind of rezun book. I thought I would learn something new, some new facts and thoughts. And he really found out, eyes on his forehead almost got out. laughing Moreover, in his "works" even within the limits of one book, no, not a book, but a book, one can find a lot of contradictions to oneself. In general, I learned "something new", and with a pure heart threw the little rezun-bastard book into the trash can, having torn it up a little. (rezun with a small letter - I was not mistaken.)

      Here to read Martirosyan Arsen Benikovich - yes.
      1. enot73
        enot73 10 October 2015 14: 04 New
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        Quote: anip
        Moreover, in his "works", even within the limits of one book, no, not a book, but a book, you can find a lot of contradictions to yourself.
        No wonder even in England, of all the books of "Suvorov", only "icebreaker" was published, the rest of the opuses went unnoticed. laughing
      2. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 10 October 2015 15: 16 New
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        I read these dirty little books of the traitor Rezun ...

        The fact that this bastard is a traitor and should have been responsible for betrayal is undeniable.
        But his "literary" work, although a lie, but it was the first to take a critical look at the then prevailing "theory of a sudden, treacherous blow" in our history, designed for completely uncritical people.
        Unfortunately, in our historical literature before Rezun there were generally no serious studies of the causes of the defeat of the Red Army in 1941.
        The ideological cliche prevailing in Soviet times, which does not allow anything condemning anything in the actions of the country's leadership, the then generals, the actions of the Red Army, played a bad role in shaping the then worldview of people.
        Therefore, in the wake of the lack of truthful research into the events of 1941, in the late 80s, early 90s, Rezun's "literary" creation enjoyed great attention, and was extremely popular, due to the absence of something else.
    4. 78bor1973
      78bor1973 11 October 2015 01: 11 New
      +3
      After reading both the "aquarium" and the "icebreaker", some kind of dissonance of its own logic with the material that seemed to be read, a break in causal relationships (if you are such a cool scout, then why are you there) or (if the GRU is so cool why didn't they see you "goblin"?) And in general, these books are just a bomb for the weak-minded and rascals!
    5. Mikado
      Mikado 12 October 2015 17: 22 New
      +2
      He did tremendous damage. Do many young people in our country know history now?
      1. Serge Gorely
        Serge Gorely 13 September 2018 08: 55 New
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        Quote: Mikado
        He did tremendous damage. Do many young people in our country know history now?

        Youth ignorant is clearly not the work of Rezun. The fact that Rezun is a scumbag and a liar is indisputable. But he achieved success because our historians constantly lie. Under the USSR they lied that we won the war ONLY thanks to the fiery political instructor (special thanks to dear Leonid Ilyich). Now they lie that the troops were led by bearded paunch with censers.
    6. rohl
      rohl 21 October 2015 03: 29 New
      +1
      Maybe you are closer to solzhenitsyn? He's never a traitor, "Stalin destroyed millions of people" ...
      Maybe Tukhachevsky is closer to you, who destroyed his people with gases and took hostage (the lowest method)! And his "theory" of warfare and its preparation ?!
      Maybe Khrushchov is closer to you, who has done so much that describing his crimes is enough for a few books!
      Maybe you are closer to Zhukov, who executed hundreds and thousands in lawlessness ?! Do you still consider him "invincible"? Is this person considered an ordinary?
      Who is closer to you? Maybe Gorbachev? Yeltsin?
      All these people did not run anywhere, they were never accused of pederasty !!! But who is the traitor?
  2. Mera joota
    Mera joota 10 October 2015 07: 14 New
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    Rezun persistently pursues the following thought: in Soviet strategic intelligence, all employees, they say, were divided into two unequal groups. One group is those who bring in the beak valuable information gathered from agents recruited by them. The second group is everyone else.

    Maybe this is a discovery for the author, but for example, in the criminal investigation department (at least it was before), the situation was similar. Inveterate operas deal directly with crooks, and the rest of the scales are done either by young operas, or by gray people who are not able to produce a result. The normal boss of a good opera will not put on duty for a day after having squabbled there, he will ride on calls, and the normal opera will reveal disclosures.

    Regarding the circumstances that led to Rezun's escape, this case is clearly classified and everything else is nothing more than speculation. Well, the fact that he has a family and children somehow casts doubt on the version with homosexuality, in Europe he could have turned around in this field without looking back at the Communist Party ...
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 10 October 2015 18: 09 New
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      Mera joota

      At the expense of family and children. Their homosexuals have the same thing. But in the 80s it is not a fact that homosexuality in Europe was not a crime. It seems there they planted for this business, as everywhere else. I could be wrong.
  3. Baloo
    Baloo 10 October 2015 07: 26 New
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    After the collapse of the USSR, one of the articles on traitors cited the statement of the tsarl chief. I don’t remember exactly, approximately: we don’t need to recruit anyone, our colonels and KGB generals stand in line with their secrets.
    Once in a documentary they showed interviews with Gordievsky, Suvorov, Kalugin ... Their facial expressions are the same, each calls himself a fighter against the system. Traitors have always been, apparently a special psychotype, I would call this psychotype "pa #uka". We now see them on talk shows, we hear matzo on the exe regularly. Here's what they think of us: Ryzhkov: I admire American volunteering and philanthropy. And how many people did these good Americans kill around the globe after World War II for their understanding of democracy?
    Or here's another one: http: //politrussia.com/opozitsiya/kto-na-samom-448/- an opinion of the liberalist position about us.
    For example:
    -Roman Dobrokhotov: Two-thirds (of Russians) are latent xenophobes, latent criminals.
    -Yulia Latynina: Putin’s voter is a lumpen and Putin’s voter is cattle.
    -Rustem Adagamov (accused of pedophilia): This population is ready to sell his mother for the filthy 750 rubles.
    -Dmitry Bykov: Most of the Russian population is incapable of anything, it is pointless to re-educate it, it does not know how and does not want to work. The Russian population is inefficient. It is necessary to give him the opportunity to sleep soundly or die out of old age, stuffing with the corresponding spectacles.
    -Alfred Koch: The Russian man degraded and turned into an uninteresting scum of civilization - into a narcissistic, touchy, cowardly bastard.
    -Sergei Parkhomenko: Seeing a sober Central Russian man in his usual habitat, you start fumbling frantically in his pockets. Where is the ignition key from a tractor that will take you anywhere, having doused these cockroaches with a cloud of fuselage-bluish smoke, which is so organically woven into the stench of their cheap cigarettes and fumes? Or, at least, a gun, in case of critical cultural contradictions to feed these ugly mouths with lead seeds.
    -Gennady Gudkov: Because CITIZENS gathered for the IDEA on Bolotnaya, and in LUZHNIKA SLANDS and according to the order! And servile singers like you.
    -Artemy Troitsky: For the most part, I consider Russian men to be animals, creatures not even of the second, but of the third grade. When I see them - from cops to deputies, I think that they, in principle, should die out ... In fact, I do not mind this breed at all.
    -Evgenia Chirikova: Russian people are much like cattle. They will endure anything.
    -Ksenia Sobchak: Such people are called cattle - who envy, hate me ... And this feature, by the way, is peculiar to Russians, therefore I love Jews.
    -Mikhail Khodorkovsky: It’s a shame not to steal from such a state.
    I really look forward to the accusation that, quoting the opposition themselves about our country and about you and me, I incite hatred towards them. And I have no doubt that such charges will be. However, maybe, to find real enemies and hate-raisers, our opposition should look in the mirror?
    Here we are in their eyes, and here they are in their eyes. I am for the law on deprivation of citizenship and expulsion outside the Russian Federation without the right to return.
    But according to Nut with ex matzah. 95% of the population of Russia .... Read for yourself, you will not believe.
    1. Ronino
      Ronino 10 October 2015 07: 53 New
      +8
      Where to get so many ice axes?
      1. BARBED
        BARBED 10 October 2015 08: 39 New
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        I have no doubt that many will give their own - the workers. I have two of them. I’m not even sorry for a good deed.
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      3. Darwin
        Darwin 10 October 2015 11: 36 New
        0
        for such and the ice ax is not sorry enough for everyone
      4. ratfly
        ratfly 10 October 2015 15: 01 New
        +1
        One ice ax of all!
      5. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 11 October 2015 05: 10 New
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        Quote: RoninO
        Where to get so many ice axes?

        Well, how many of these Russophobes? A lot of? Do not tell. It’s just that our media wants and gives the best time on air to them. To be a Patriot in Russia always, from time immemorial, was as if to put it, shameful or something. So this foam climbs in front of everyone with the filing of our media. Well, how can one not give time for the transfer to some sort of liberalist. He will be offended, they shut up the mouth of the poor. They deprived of freedom of speech. This self rotts its rot. This is the navel of the earth, and we, its dust. Let them gather in their closed clubs and chew their liberal chewing gum before vomiting. Arrows of the oscilloscope. And so they can be wet without ice axes, improvised means
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 10 October 2015 18: 27 New
      +2
      Baloo

      There is a good movie on YouTube
      Konstantin Semin "empire of good"

      There is an interview with an analyst from the CIA. He simply said that the Soviet presidents were put on a paycheck and that was enough to destroy the USSR.
      It is also said that the effectiveness of the CIA was superior in scope to direct military intervention. Thus, the US was able to get about 50 government shifts in other countries.

      So, something like that.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 11 October 2015 21: 37 New
        0
        Yes, I saw this movie. There, one of the oldest neocons (neoconservatives), grinning, said so: I have enough fingers to count who we bought, and after 8 years the USSR died. He said so: We bought them! am
    3. Kilo-11
      Kilo-11 11 October 2015 01: 21 New
      +4
      An interesting point is the Yavlinsky family. in Lvov / Galicia /, why shouldn't Pan Yavlinsky return to his historical homeland and distribute paid advice on how to equip Galicia there ?! Kasparov-Weinstein b. in Baku, so maybe it's time for mister Kasparov-Weinstein to start creating a truly "democratic society" in Azerbaijan or to be in opposition to the regime of mister Aliyev the spirit is not enough ?! The rest, alas, are our local traitors and two enemies from the USA . Ryzhkov is the most "fellow of the fellows" - under the flag of the owner at attention, probably under the flag of Russia, he never stood!
    4. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 11 October 2015 02: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Balu


      And for contrast - the speeches of the main fighter with foreign agents lol

      Putin: "In an acute crisis many enterprises raised the question of completely transferring their business to the state, were ready and even offered themselves. We did not go this way, we chose a different path - we put a shoulder on the business, built a whole support system, but did not follow the path of nationalization of the economy. This is a fundamental government choice."
      http://archive.government.ru/special/docs/14934/

      Vladimir Putin: “You see, we have not experienced any large-scale nationalization or a slide towards general administrative regulation. We have preserved the free movement of capital and the convertibility of the ruble. I am sure that all this served as a convincing signal for investors, and I want to emphasize and say again: there will be no return to the past. Russia will remain a liberal market economy. Today I want to repeat again: we will consistently continue the line on promoting private initiative, on integration into the world economy, on the formation of a favorable investment climate ".
      http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=317679

      Putin: “We have to think about what to do, how to build our policy. we will act in the logic of a market economy"
      http://www.rg.ru/2015/01/21/putin-ekonomika-site.html)

      Putin: "Under the amnesty of capital the issue is not the return of capital, but its legalization"
      http://tass.ru/ekonomika/1656342

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  5. capitosha1rang
    capitosha1rang 10 October 2015 07: 44 New
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    It is better to blame Rezun-Suvorov for zincography or Shintoism, but not for sexual deviations, deviations.
    Otherwise, the bill will have to be presented to many organizations and hundreds of specific ranks who admitted (and let) a fagot, how stupid - the author frankly asserts, first to the Suvorov School, then to the Higher Educational Institution (in Soviet times!), And those who selected, weeded out , provoking checked candidates for "abroad" ...
    In 73/74 years of the last century I studied at a special naval school and I can confirm that "blue" at that time, in the USSR, was, after all, a shade of color, but a swear word that came to our courtyards along with thin, cynical guys , rewound for a quarter of a century in different camps - "Artek".
    I don't know Rezun-Suvorov personally, although I read his books, they are very sensibly written and make me re-read history, compare and contrast, prove "from the opposite", if I don't like something.
    But to question the competence of the administrative bodies and services of the CPSU ... is it bold (after 30 years of absence) or stupid (just because it’s worthless) I don’t know, the Great Country has a lot of real problems and tasks.
    1. captain
      captain 10 October 2015 10: 39 New
      +7
      Dear capitosha1rang, I agree with your opinion. I read Rezun's books, they are written really sensibly, if it were not for the stigma of a traitor, I think there would not have been so much criticism of his books. There are controversial issues in his books, but there are also very interesting conclusions. He served in the GRU and in this organization they did not take the half-educated, if they did, they were "gifted" relatives of the big bosses. He is a traitor and that says it all. It is a pity that betrayal in our society is selective. I consider people who betrayed the interests of our people, and not the system that was in our country at that time, to be traitors. For me, Gorbachev, Yakovlev, Shevardnadze, Kravchuk, Yeltsin ... and many more leaders of the CPSU are traitors to our people. The worst thing is that these and similar characters in our country did not receive the proper political and social assessment. The KPSS is the heir to the CPSU (b), and this party wished for the defeat of Russia in the 1st World War, now the children and grandchildren of those who wanted defeat at we are in power, I recommend looking at the biographies of Medvedev, Chubais, E. Gaidar and others. As a rule, all the grandchildren and leaders of different levels in the party or in its organs in the army. Until they destroy Russia to the end, they will not calm down. I already wrote, where do the children and grandchildren of our General Secretaries live (Except Chernenko), a question to those who will give me a minus, who were raised in their families by our true "Leninists"?
      1. Silhouette
        Silhouette 10 October 2015 11: 47 New
        +3
        Many people prefer to talk about Rezun at the level of "What can a lame man say about the art of Herbert von Karoyan if he is immediately told that he is lame?"
      2. rohl
        rohl 21 October 2015 03: 20 New
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        Maybe you are closer to solzhenitsyn? He's never a traitor, "Stalin destroyed millions of people" ...
        Maybe Tukhachevsky is closer to you, who destroyed his people with gases and took hostage (the lowest method)! And his "theory" of warfare and its preparation ?!
        Maybe Khrushchov is closer to you, who has done so much that describing his crimes is enough for a few books!
        Maybe you are closer to Zhukov, who executed hundreds and thousands in lawlessness ?! Do you still consider him "invincible"? Is this person considered an ordinary?
        Who is closer to you? Maybe Gorbachev? Yeltsin?
        All these people did not run anywhere, they were never accused of pederasty !!! But who is the traitor?
  6. Fat373
    Fat373 10 October 2015 07: 45 New
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    To understand time, you need to live in it. Alas, this is not given to us. Suvorov helped me personally to understand that Stalin was not a paranoid and cannibal, but the Emperor, that our Soviet icons were ordinary people.
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 10 October 2015 07: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: Fat373
      Suvorov helped me personally to understand that Stalin was not a paranoid and cannibal, but the Emperor

      Viktor Suvorov is a terrible Stalinist, which for some reason many patriots do not notice.
  7. Russian Uzbek
    Russian Uzbek 10 October 2015 07: 57 New
    +2
    oh-oh-oh well, how dare the author cast a shadow on the Great Rezun, who opened our eyes to all of us ??? it is from Great Rezun that we learned that our commanders were "butchers" (the others apparently fought with holy spirit), that Vile Stalin himself was going to attack Good Hitler, and that "DEFENDING" was FORCED to reach the Volga ...
    the entire local population of slander negodue!
    and in general: someone likes rezun, someone doesn't - but this does not change the essence: the "scientific research" of the pseudo-historian Suvorov (even the CIA came up with a catchy pseudonym for him - SUVOROV - for the Russians an exceptionally positive reaction;) and, accordingly, greater trust in the brow with such a surname) - the usual propaganda falsifications of history
    Well and still: people cannot be a historian without a historical education! such only on Bred-tv to Prokopenko and Chapman
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    2. Mera joota
      Mera joota 10 October 2015 08: 00 New
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      Quote: Russian Uzbek
      Oh oh oh

      Suvorov FORCED thousands of people to read what they would never read in life, and it does not matter what conclusions each of them made himself.
      1. Russian Uzbek
        Russian Uzbek 10 October 2015 11: 23 New
        +3
        "" "MADE thousands of people to read what they would never read in their life, and no matter what conclusions each of them made himself" ""
        and millions more people watch Ren-tv and think that the Martians built the Egyptian pyramids ... but this nonsense does not become true!
        so here I repeat: any conclusions can be made, but the fact that Mr. Rezun is a full-time propagandist working for the CIA is a reality!
        Well, you can continue to clog your brain with propaganda from a rezun instead of studying HISTORY
        1. rohl
          rohl 21 October 2015 03: 18 New
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          Have you studied history? Judging by the comment, no.
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 22 October 2015 00: 02 New
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        Why do you consider Rezun's lies worthy of attention? Reading for retirees and acne youths, in which half-truths are mixed with lies. Rezun sales do not look at cards when composing. Artistically, Akunin's works are more competitive. Although both are opportunists. I have nothing new with Suvorov, except for the unrestrained fantasy, which the author passes off as the truth, I have not found. Remember F. Neznansky Someone else's face? And I remember the event that formed the basis. It was in the 70s, at the beginning it seems. We listened to the Voice of America because of the music, since Tatarsky's broadcast at the lighthouse was rare and very short. Once the Voice of America transmitted a message that at Sheremetyevo, when boarding a plane, an unknown person opened fire from a pistol when they tried to detain him. Our press did not report this, details on the "votes" were not reported either.
        But what a mulberry F.Neznansky had invented! Rezun is the same scribbler. negative
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    4. Turkir
      Turkir 10 October 2015 13: 34 New
      +1
      Well and still: people cannot be a historian without a historical education!

      It depends on the individual.
      Do you think that Herodotus, Miller, Schlötser, Karamzin - had a historical "education"? Or ac. Likhachev, who was a philologist? It was Likhachev who said that the history of Russia begins with the adoption of Christianity, and the pre-Christian history of Russia should not interest us! The entire Norman theory is based on the inventions of a certain Swede Petrei and is still being discussed not only in the West, but also in our "professional" circles. Or is Gumilyov a historian?
      A history buff, if he has scientific thinking, can do more than a professional historian. And the example of this is S.Ya. Paramonov, an entomologist, but who also has a physical and mathematical education. Oh, the Normans say - he's not a historian! Still, they do not like it when they are poked into factological errors, up to ignorance of the difference in the chronology of Bulgarian and Byzantine.
      However, such professional historians Frolov, Ph.D. Grot - already today confirmed the conclusions of Sergei Yakovlevich Paramonov, though without mentioning his work.
      As for Rezun, he is a professional ... sharper, writes books that are pleasing to German ideology and justifying THEIR "history". Why - after all, he is a citizen of Germany, do not forget about it. If he lived in the United States, then we would probably have learned from him that the USSR entered the war in 1944.
      Even without Rezun, I am interested in the history of Russia and I do not need to "start" from him to learn something from our history.
      ----
      Once, one Russian chess fan noticed that the task of a checkmate in seven moves, walking through textbooks for 50 years, is done in 6 moves. All professionals did not notice this!
      But Botvinnik called him a professional chess player. Noble.
  8. kalibr
    kalibr 10 October 2015 08: 10 New
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    Moreover, if we consider Rezun-Suvorov as a PR-project, then he should erect a monument. Since it caused MASS INTEREST in our country in the history of our time. People began to read memoirs, they themselves found inconsistencies, compared, compared, DRAWED conclusions BY THEMSELVES, and this is expensive. And just at the cost of "one betrayal"? Completeness? Was it a betrayal?
    If I were the ruler of the country, I would only act in this way when I needed to direct the attention of the masses to some object! Now get in your car and try to print a certain number of pages "about the war," on a topic that you know well. My record is 27 per day and then I took a day off! Considering how many books he wrote and what volumes of information there are, he, the "poor", had to write day and night, which is unrealistic. So they "wrote" him? Who! British? With all due respect to them, what for do they want? Distort our story? What for? When it is already clear that because of the inaccuracies of faith there will be no faith !!! The British should have known about them, since they themselves wrote them? So ... they didn't write? Then who? And even if Rezun himself, then he is again great! What harm did he do? And how much use ?!
    1. tasha
      tasha 10 October 2015 08: 41 New
      +2
      Perhaps that was how it was necessary to break this wall, stir up the historical swamp. The only trouble is that "Icebreaker" was published and read throughout Europe, but the smart and worthy books of his opponents are unlikely ...
      1. Silhouette
        Silhouette 10 October 2015 11: 44 New
        +8
        Name it. please, at least one clever and worthy book of his opponents, and justify its intelligence and dignity. It will be very interesting.
        1. tasha
          tasha 10 October 2015 12: 29 New
          +2
          I have two versions. Either you were not interested in learning the arguments against Rezun, or you read these books, but wrote them in stupid and unworthy ones. If you haven’t read it, then read it, if the arguments of their authors did not seem convincing to you, then mine will not work for you. Sincerely.
          1. Silhouette
            Silhouette 10 October 2015 12: 47 New
            +6
            Both of your versions are not entirely true. In fact, I was interested to know the arguments against Rezun, and to me they seemed untenable. He was refuted by the trifles in which the sources on which Rezun relied were to blame, but no one could refute his analysts and conclusions, which were later supported by declassified information. This is his strength. His merit was that he was the first to publish what many initiates knew, talked about, but did not print. And I don’t care who did it, saint or Bluebeard. Even if he eats anthem with spoons, I will watch what he says. I also liked how he puts pseudo-war historians in their place. Well done.
            1. Marvel
              Marvel 19 July 2016 22: 43 New
              +1
              Silhouette, don't screw up nonsense. The delirium of this schizophrenic-Russophobe has long been smashed to smithereens both in Russia and in the West, only the rhesunoids-dibilody have not yet understood this. Many articles and books are devoted to exposing his fakes, I advise you to read them carefully. There, everything is chewed up and put in the mouth, as for the imbeciles from his "concept" stone unturned. "See what he says" can only be the same Russophobic scum like himself. He didn’t put anyone in his place, only the lazy one didn’t let down his “pseudo-war historian,” but he never answered anything to most of the criticism, which is natural: there is simply nothing to answer. Because the critics are right. And he was caught not on trifles, but on the most ordinary lies and deliberate juggling (for example, the story about leather boots in which the Red Army was allegedly changed in 1941, I remember I laughed for a long time: he does not even know how to lie beautifully)
              Books exposing his lies? Their sea, here are just a few:
              The truth of Viktor Suvorov. Compilation
              Gryzun V. - How Victor Suvorov composed the story.
              Surov V. Icebreaker 2.
              Isaev is also, but I personally don’t like the way he writes: it’s too boring, academic and boring. But also this villain beats hard.

              If you had bothered to read them, you would not have written deliberate nonsense here.
    2. Alexy
      Alexy 10 October 2015 16: 03 New
      +1
      For some reason I think that Rezun-Suvorov is such a postcard, a candy wrapper. And his books are a banal discredit of everything Soviet. And they are written by specially trained specialists to change history in the minds of people. In Ukraine, it worked.
      1. kalibr
        kalibr 10 October 2015 18: 27 New
        -2
        Then what can you say about Fomenko? Did Rezun's books discredit the USSR? In my opinion, the harm from Fomenko's books is much greater ... In Ukraine, this also "has already worked." They became the most ancient in the world there. Now it's our turn!
    3. rohl
      rohl 21 October 2015 03: 16 New
      -2
      I am a definite admirer of Rezun. But here I have to disagree with you. Rezun definitely wrote by order. Yes, the truth, but as it was. But (!) He distorted some facts. Note that he always appreciates the allies and the negative actions of the USSR. And what is very talented, he does this based on facts, but the facts are talented.
      It is very good to read NV Starikov's book dedicated to Rezun. Why? Starikov, an unambiguous opponent of Rezun (opponent), but nevertheless Starikov's interpretation strongly supports Rezun, but at the same time shows the role of "allies" in World War II and why it is better to read Rezun very carefully.
      Although, to be honest, even without Starikov, I noticed these distortions and did not draw attention to them, since I already knew in advance that he had fled abroad, with the explicit support of foreign services.
  9. igordok
    igordok 10 October 2015 08: 15 New
    +7
    Not a drop, not Suvorov. Reason, as he was, remained.
  10. SibSlavRus
    SibSlavRus 10 October 2015 08: 26 New
    +7
    Yeltsin, you say, has forgiven by your decree? But Yeltsin is not a people or a special service. And this was his private and populist decision.
    Judas-Yeltsin himself headed his "forgivable list"!
    Indeed, in the photo, not a courageous and severe face, but a polished homosexual physiognomy.
    Physiognomy, however, is a very entertaining science.
  11. iury.vorgul
    iury.vorgul 10 October 2015 08: 26 New
    +3
    Rezun, "Suvorov" can only be called in quotation marks - he is a traitor to the Motherland and honestly deserved his bullet. But...
    It was with his submission that the dam of the official suppression of the history of the Great Patriotic War was broken. It was after the publication of the heap of outright absurdities and impudent lies, in a good literary treatment, called "Icebreaker", that real historians began to publish their studies of this period. Therefore, I believe that Rezun deserved to be shot at the wall, facing the ranks, and not in the back of the head.
    1. tasha
      tasha 10 October 2015 08: 28 New
      +5
      For me personally, I will not hide, "Icebreaker" was a revelation ... Of course there were doubts, but somehow I did not think of checking the sources. And even now, after reading a rather large number of books on this topic, I have no clear understanding and knowledge ... It is very, very difficult.
      1. Russian Uzbek
        Russian Uzbek 10 October 2015 11: 32 New
        +2
        "" I have no clear understanding and knowledge ... "" "
        worthy words! and then here on the site there is a lot of wool that knows everything in the world and for some reason they are all ardent fans of rezunovschiny
  12. Alexy
    Alexy 10 October 2015 08: 30 New
    +9
    The bastard. In the 90s, many people fell for the bait of his pseudo-historical opuses. Unfortunately, there are also enough of them now.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 10 October 2015 10: 49 New
      0
      What do you mean got caught? That is, they were so stupid that not everyone took for granted? And check again, the mind is not enough? Well, stupid have always been, are and will be. They are not sorry. Or do you think that we have such a majority?
      1. kvs207
        kvs207 10 October 2015 11: 18 New
        +1
        Почему нет?
        And how to check if you live in the province? The book (Rezun) is, and the State Archive is far away. I already wrote here about my friend, who, with enthusiasm, read Rezun and believed in him. Moreover, he was a serviceman and quite sober-minded person.
        1. kalibr
          kalibr 10 October 2015 18: 30 New
          0
          And the library is close! And in it there are memories of marshals, memoirs, and newspapers for different years ... And magazines - Motherland, Questions of history, Science and life ... There is a lot of things there, including with archives. WOULD BE THE DESIRE!
  13. lao_tsy
    lao_tsy 10 October 2015 08: 37 New
    +4
    Another interesting question: "And who published and distributed Rezun's books in multi-million copies?"
    It seems to me that his books at the end of 80's, the beginning of 90's, could be bought at any general store.
    1. tasha
      tasha 10 October 2015 08: 44 New
      +1
      It seems to me that there is no need to look for Fix's tricks here. Very, very popular was the book. Walked on hands. So they printed. I have all of his books, for example, there are :) In addition to the latter, these are in electronic form.
  14. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 10 October 2015 08: 57 New
    +3
    traitor! I am pleased to read Isaev! and this ......... ice ax and nothing more! That's all I wanted to say! I have the honor!
    1. tasha
      tasha 10 October 2015 09: 05 New
      +2
      Traitor - yes, I agree. A lot of good people suffered after his betrayal.
      Isaev - separately. Would you read his books if you hadn’t been the books of Rezun?
      1. rohl
        rohl 21 October 2015 03: 03 New
        -2
        Isaevsky delirium read ....
    2. Alexy
      Alexy 10 October 2015 16: 08 New
      +1
      The author of the icebreaker is an ice ax in the head. And that sounds.
    3. rohl
      rohl 21 October 2015 03: 03 New
      -1
      Read Isaev - do not respect yourself!
  15. Fitter65
    Fitter65 10 October 2015 09: 06 New
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    It seems that the article at the request of this traitor is written. The message of the article, do not forget those who betrayed the MOTHERLAND, submit it to the one who has told you a living.
  16. Fotoceva62
    Fotoceva62 10 October 2015 09: 07 New
    +8
    If the British curators planned to achieve their goals with the help of Rezun’s books, they broke off. The result was the opposite, the mass of people began to study history very carefully, and most importantly, since the author presented himself as an analyst, readers, as much as they could, began to analyze and included logic with common sense (in any case, many succeeded). Other authors showed up and raced. Rezun became the very stick of yeast that the prudent curators threw into the stagnant capacity of our historical school (military) of that time. The result, I think they were not pleased. Instead of general despondency and frustration, they received a surge of military-historical interest and analysis (to the best of their abilities and capabilities) in society. What caused the appearance of a mass of various historical works. As for Rezun’s books, it must be admitted that not all of them are equally useful to liberals, for example, Cleansing. The main thing is not to take everything on faith, but to compare information sources and analyze. Gosh, yes just include common sense sometimes!
    Regarding the blueness, I doubt doubtfully. Go to service from Suvorovsky to an intelligence officer, but in Geneva! Hardly.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 10 October 2015 10: 51 New
      -1
      That is, do you think that the British who had a great experience of information wars did not understand that this would happen and none of the Russian consultants suggested to them? How nice it would be to fight such an enemy. But in fact, most likely the opposite is true. Above, I wrote about it.
  17. otto meer
    otto meer 10 October 2015 09: 18 New
    +9
    I don't understand why, when Suvorov-Rezun is mentioned, some comrades get foam on their lips and "their hands are looking for a pistol." Traitor? Yes, I agree. But how can we judge him? Were we there? Did you feel it in your own skin? I was taught from school to hate Vlasov, and as I matured and read about him, I realized that he was a deeply unhappy man of tragic fate. And it's not for me to judge him. And Rezun, and what Rezun? Ran away? Yes. Has anyone "passed"? No. Moreover, his colleagues admit this. So why hate him? For books? And what about books? Does he write badly about Russians? No, he writes about our people in a superlative degree, with a breath. Does he praise Hitler? Again, no, the reviews about "possessed" are not flattering. Writes that the Soviets wanted to attack first? Whats wrong with that? Nothing. He writes that Zhukov is a scoundrel and a scoundrel? And the latest research turns out to be true. And so on and so forth.
    So let's do it without hate. And then they came up with it already - it turns out he also has a hammock! Let's get facts, essentially. At the expense of tanks, if he didn’t lie, then he entrusted nobly. It is a fact.
    1. enot73
      enot73 10 October 2015 16: 14 New
      +8
      Quote: otto meer
      . He writes that the Soviets wanted to attack first? What's wrong with that? Nothing. He writes, Zhukov is a scoundrel and a scoundrel? And recent research turns out to confirm this. And so on and so forth.
      Unfortunately, not only in England, but also in Russia, a lot of writers - grant-eaters have appeared. like B. Sokolov, I. Bunich, M. Corned beef. Apparently the "latest research" in the field of military history is their work. Of course Zhukov was not an angel, but they write about him in general nonsense. For example, that he sent penalty boxers to anti-tank minefields, and penalty boxes, at the cost of their lives, paved the way for tanks ... The authors (Bunich, Suvorov) did not mention, however, that an effort from 100 to 450 kg was required to trigger an anti-tank mine. By the way, I advise you to read this book about Zhukov - Alexey Isaev. "Georgy Zhukov. The King's Last Argument".
      1. otto meer
        otto meer 10 October 2015 16: 36 New
        +1
        Thank. Download - read, of course. If you recommend. At the expense of mine clearing, I didn’t meet this with Suvorov, but I don’t deny it, maybe it was. However, I read the protocol of the search (the list of seized) for Zhukov’s dacha. Not the original of course, but what I found on the network. Impressive! The letter of the Supreme Military Council, with the assessment of Zhukov, also knew, it is not meritorious to take away the content. Reviews of the highest command staff about Zhukov again. And these are all documents, and intravital. So I bow ...
        1. enot73
          enot73 10 October 2015 17: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: otto meer
          . However, I read the protocol of the search (the list of seized) for Zhukov’s dacha.
          Some "recent studies", by the way, say that most of the confiscated items were gifts to the marshal, unfortunately the other version (Zhukov is a trophy) has not been completely refuted.
          1. otto meer
            otto meer 10 October 2015 19: 02 New
            +2
            The list of gifts to Stalin was published in the newspaper (if I am not mistaken) Pravda for two years. Cars, weapons, jewelry, even planes and ships. And what did he take personally for himself? NOTHING! Gave it to orphanages, collective farms, schools. And Georgy Konstantinovich? And then who could have thought of giving him a complete collection of Goethe, in the original language? How would he read it? So shta ...
      2. rohl
        rohl 21 October 2015 02: 59 New
        -1
        Are you nonsense Isaev captivated? I was enough for 3/5 of the book. Then I realized that this nonsense will continue, I quit.
  18. da Vinci
    da Vinci 10 October 2015 09: 39 New
    +3
    This swamp slush still plays into conspiracy, claiming that the all-powerful KGB seeks to eliminate it ... It’s disgusting even to press buttons on such cutters. wassat
  19. 56_br
    56_br 10 October 2015 09: 42 New
    +5
    Traitor, he is always a traitor, no matter how bad my homeland is, it is my homeland. Rezun betrayed his homeland and colleagues, even the new owners of traitors do not respect, if the traitor betrayed his homeland, then he will betray the new owners even faster and cheaper.
    1. rohl
      rohl 21 October 2015 02: 55 New
      -3
      Maybe you are closer to solzhenitsyn? He's never a traitor, "Stalin destroyed millions of people" ...
      Maybe Tukhachevsky is closer to you, who destroyed his people with gases and took hostage (the lowest method)! And his "theory" of warfare and its preparation ?!
      Maybe Khrushchov is closer to you, who has done so much that describing his crimes is enough for a few books!
      Maybe you are closer to Zhukov, who executed hundreds and thousands in lawlessness ?! Do you still consider him "invincible"? Is this person considered an ordinary?
      Who is closer to you? Maybe Gorbachev? Yeltsin?
      All these people did not run anywhere, they were never accused of pederasty !!! But who is the traitor?
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 21 October 2015 02: 58 New
        0
        Quote: rohl
        Maybe closer to you

        IMHO you do not understand the flow .. you are trying to mind .. in the air .. cool down already laughing

        Quote: 56_br
        Traitor, he is always a traitor, no matter how bad my homeland is, it is my homeland. Rezun betrayed both Homeland and Colle

        This is what you dragged Khrushchov into ... and other rubbish. Question - what for?
  20. am808s
    am808s 10 October 2015 09: 44 New
    +7
    What we are talking about? Some kind of slogan-rezun as a gerostrat wanted to remain in history. Our country is constantly betrayed and revel in impunity. And at the moment, hundreds of slaughter-slogans work against the people and the country. We do not have punitive laws on them, we can’t even get rid of maniacs, society is forced to feed them for life. Do you still have to pay the hunchback-labeled pension for the destruction of the country?
    1. rohl
      rohl 21 October 2015 02: 57 New
      -2
      Maybe you are closer to solzhenitsyn? He's never a traitor, "Stalin destroyed millions of people" ...
      Maybe Tukhachevsky is closer to you, who destroyed his people with gases and took hostage (the lowest method)! And his "theory" of warfare and its preparation ?!
      Maybe Khrushchov is closer to you, who has done so much that describing his crimes is enough for a few books!
      Maybe you are closer to Zhukov, who executed hundreds and thousands in lawlessness ?! Do you still consider him "invincible"? Is this person considered an ordinary?
      All these people did not run anywhere, they were never accused of pederasty !!! But who is the traitor?
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  22. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 10 October 2015 10: 32 New
    +3
    The books of the traitor-rezun in the 90s were interesting only because they went against the official interpretation of the history of the Second World War and these books appeared in large numbers in all cities and towns of the former USSR, an even more interesting question to whom and why was it necessary? (And this is with a general and general shortage of everything and everything, from socks to products, etc.). There was a deliberate informational attack on the USSR being destroyed, so that the consciousness of the whole people would change, the thought of doubt and disappointment crept in and the firm belief that what we had been taught for 70 years was a lie, we supposedly built the wrong society. Many people know the army principle - who first reported to the authorities (any information is good or bad), he and hero - and he is beyond punishment and suspicion, even if he is personally guilty of an accident or violation (no matter how the sword breaks his guilty head), and additional and valid truthful reports of other officials are no longer taken into account. Rezun used this principle and considers himself a hero , although the majority (people in uniform) considers a villain and a traitor.
  23. Old26
    Old26 10 October 2015 10: 33 New
    +3
    Quote: tasha
    It seems to me that there is no need to look for Fix's tricks here. Very, very popular was the book. Walked on hands. So they printed. I have all of his books, for example, there are :) In addition to the latter, these are in electronic form.

    Super popular. For some, it became a revelation and they became fanatics of his writings, while others, after reading, began to read historical literature. Demand always gives rise to supply. In the early 90s, Mein Kampf could also be bought at the collapse ...
    I actually have some in paper form (Aquarium, Icebreaker, Day-M), others - in electronic form
  24. otto meer
    otto meer 10 October 2015 10: 44 New
    +7
    Blah blah blah! Traitor! (Yes) Gamasek! (This, until proven otherwise - no) Some emotions. You can "minus" me, but for now you look like a flock of roaring macaques. Atu him! Atu! What exactly? Personally, I am not solace with him in comparison with the T-34 and T-4. I disagree with the comparison of small arms, or rather structural constructions from the weapons of the Red Army and VH. Disagree on German PTO. I disagree ... I disagree a lot. But I agree with a lot. Therefore, if he is such an enemy to you, then destroy the enemy constructively, beat him with facts (and not slogans). And so one gets the impression that many have not read books, but they hate him to the point of grinding teeth. But you can't. Rather, macaques can. People are not allowed.
    1. kvs207
      kvs207 10 October 2015 11: 13 New
      +3
      This is already done for us. wink
      http://army.armor.kiev.ua/hist/shuler.shtml
      http://army.armor.kiev.ua/hist/shuler-2.shtml
      1. otto meer
        otto meer 10 October 2015 16: 40 New
        -2
        Whoa! This is already serious! As one man said: "Leave me alone! I'm diving!" In the study of the material provided. In terms of.
      2. kalibr
        kalibr 10 October 2015 18: 33 New
        -1
        And in these materials there are links to archival files, №№, pages?
        1. otto meer
          otto meer 10 October 2015 19: 06 New
          -2
          She, there, as far as I managed to get acquainted, like an analysis. In short, they catch on the little things again. He didn’t conduct radio communications like that. Finely like that. But I will read further.
  25. kvs207
    kvs207 10 October 2015 11: 09 New
    +1
    Quote: capitosha1rang
    It is better to blame Rezun-Suvorov for zincography or Shintoism, but not for sexual deviations, deviations.
    Otherwise, the bill will have to be presented to many organizations and hundreds of specific ranks who admitted (and let) a fagot, how stupid - the author frankly asserts, first to the Suvorov School, then to the Higher Educational Institution (in Soviet times!), And those who selected, weeded out , provoking checked candidates for "abroad" ...
    In 73/74 years of the last century I studied at a special naval school and I can confirm that "blue" at that time, in the USSR, was, after all, a shade of color, but a swear word that came to our courtyards along with thin, cynical guys , rewound for a quarter of a century in different camps - "Artek".
    I don't know Rezun-Suvorov personally, although I read his books, they are very sensibly written and make me re-read history, compare and contrast, prove "from the opposite", if I don't like something.

    I would not say so categorically about "deviations". Of course, the KGB is not an army, but at one time, I was very surprised that there was a scandal in the unit where I served at one time, just on this basis. The battalion commander, lieutenant colonel, was convicted of this and had to shoot himself.
    Rezun, read and condemn. I have been interested in history for a long time and immediately, after I started reading, questions began to arise. Therefore, after reading "Icebreaker" and "Aquarium" (so it seems) spat on his "work", as well as on the attempts of another "historian", a certain Bunich. And my friend was literally delighted with his books and bought from with enviable regularity. I would not be surprised if he still appreciates Rezun.
    1. Starina_hank
      Starina_hank 10 October 2015 21: 28 New
      +2
      I liked "Aquarium" very much, it was written with love for the Soviet army. Much has been noted for sure. And experts confirm almost 100% of the special forces. Well written and competently! By the way, the language and style of "Aquarium" are not like the rest of the author's opuses, as if another person was writing!
      1. rohl
        rohl 21 October 2015 02: 48 New
        +1
        I disagree. "Aquarium" biography. Others are essentially technical literature. What do you need to write in analytics? Not about flowers, but bloopers? Or maybe the dry style of quotes and explanations?
  26. Bashibuzuk
    Bashibuzuk 10 October 2015 11: 12 New
    13
    Why break spears here, I don’t understand.
    Escaped abroad? Escaped.
    Had to split up there to a fork? I had to, but what about.
    So - a traitor. And the whole conversation.
    .
    The Hamatian entanglement should remain on the conscience of the author. Fine it. Unproven.
    .
    Book.
    I, by nature, did not even find out, clarified, archival ... Stalin was going to attack Europe or not, whether the "Thunderstorm" was really planned or not.
    I just felt ... it's a shame to the fork ... that the Soviet Union was not given such a chance to use.
    But no, and there is no trial. The Nuremberg Tribunal accurately recorded this.
    .
    I read all his books. In addition to the fact that the army of the Soviet Union was then the most powerful in the world, it did not endure anything else. In addition to the fact that the Germans were going to winter in reeds, like wild boars, he could not bear anything.
    One example is with an English supercomputer, which completely denies the possibility of a Winter War - and it speaks positively.
    I do not know what kind of spies, falsifiers, propagandists wrote him his story-tales.
    After his books, I began to admire the Motherland, the Soviet Union even more.
    ..
    And so - a traitor, yes. Definitely.
    ..
    ..
    PS. Knowledge is such a precious drink that it is not shameful to draw it from any source.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 10 October 2015 11: 20 New
      +2
      "The words are not a boy, but a husband!"
  27. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 10 October 2015 11: 21 New
    +7
    In our post-war memoirs there is a lot of pathos in the absence of logic. It turns out that our soldiers are all heroes, and the generals are sages, but how it turned out that they reached Moscow is a big question.
    Rezun explained how. Let's call him a fagot now.
  28. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 10 October 2015 11: 52 New
    11
    Regardless of the fact that the author himself is a traitor and ... his books have brought a lot of benefits. Before that, in the military history of the Second World War, there was only an officially approved and approved point of view, in general, quiet and smooth, under the leadership of citizen Gareev Makhmut Akhmetovich and the publication of memoirs from Colonel General and above, about the leading and guiding role of the party. It was after the publication of Suvorov's books that at least some kind of discussion began. The books written brightly and interestingly could not be ignored, they had to at least somehow answer, people became interested in "how everything really was." They began to search and publish documents, some real figures appeared, interest arose in the memories of the direct participants. It was as a result of the analysis and criticism of his books that Isaev, Drabkin, Martirosyan, etc. became known to the people. In general, the story, which had been impeccably slicked and concreted by the efforts of "professionals" before, began to turn into something normal and similar to the truth. If it were not for Suvorov's books, this process would have been much longer, and it is quite possible that everything could have been varnished again under the "new historical reality".
  29. dsu05
    dsu05 10 October 2015 12: 11 New
    +3
    In the 90s, when "slop" poured on everything, everything Soviet, it was a "revelation"
    to find out that something ingenious nevertheless was in those days (tanks, Stalin, planes, GRU),
    and what was certainly considered brilliant (German technology, orders, Hitler) was not like that,
    and in places it was completely unimaginably idiotic.
    It very "cleared" the brain from stagnant clichés of perception (and somehow inspired).
  30. xomaNN
    xomaNN 10 October 2015 12: 48 New
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    Then Boris Yeltsin, having become president, forgave all his traitors and traitors in an enormous decree,


    EBN from a permanent drunken delirium, apparently only for that and came out to throw such "favors" bully
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    1. Tambov Wolf
      Tambov Wolf 10 October 2015 20: 27 New
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      What, for some here, the traitor Rezun is in good numbers? Is it a pity? Or were the critics of the special services frightened? Yes, the guys are rather weak. They used to work better (under the USSR).
  32. python2a
    python2a 10 October 2015 15: 18 New
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    common bastard
  33. DmitriyZorro
    DmitriyZorro 10 October 2015 15: 43 New
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    I agree with the author of the article, because in his youth he read Rezun, but then after reading more about the Great Patriotic War, especially Isaev, it began to become clear what and why Rezun wrote. And then I had to convince my grandmother, who read the relevant books of Rezun.
    Therefore, I consider the article useful - you need to know your traitors and their motives.
    1. rohl
      rohl 21 October 2015 02: 43 New
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      Have you read Isaev and did not understand anything? Isaev writes obvious nonsense. Disjointed nonsense and nonsense. From the very beginning of his "revelations" there was delirium and nonsense, I read more than half of his "revelations" and realizing that the same thing would happen next, I gave it up.
      You do not respect yourself, just read the nonsense of an envious man!
  34. van zai
    van zai 10 October 2015 16: 07 New
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    Let's do this: Flies separately, soup separately. As a person who has broken his oath, he is without a doubt deeply unpleasant, BUT. On the contrary, the work of Rezun is the first intelligible attempt to comprehend what happened in 1941. It was after his books that I and many, I think, began to be interested in history. It was his books that gave me a reason to be proud of my homeland, the USSR. And it was his books that taught him to "read between the lines" and filter information. It's a pity there won't be any new books, I would love to read them
    1. Jack-b
      Jack-b 10 October 2015 19: 38 New
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      A little artificial example, but for clarity: after one of the murders in the Criminal Code, an article about the murder appears. And we say: murder is without a doubt bad, but on the contrary, if this person had not killed another, we would not have entered such a necessary and useful article in the Criminal Code.
      That's how I understand your message.
    2. Mikado
      Mikado 12 October 2015 17: 50 New
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      Quote: van zai
      Let's do this: Flies separately, soup separately. As a person who has broken his oath, he is without a doubt deeply unpleasant, BUT. On the contrary, the work of Rezun is the first intelligible attempt to comprehend what happened in 1941. It was after his books that I and many, I think, began to be interested in history. It was his books that gave me a reason to be proud of my homeland, the USSR. And it was his books that taught him to "read between the lines" and filter information. It's a pity there won't be any new books, I would love to read them


      Dear Wan Zai, with all due respect to your opinion, it seems to me that the goal was not to analyze, but to discredit our Motherland as much as possible, and distort history in the minds of our people, which is what happened. You can give examples when the so-called. "Suvorov" openly lies, rips out half of the phrase out of context, does not understand the hardware, etc. All this has already been sorted out by Isaev, and by other authors, and even by Chobitk on his "Brone-Site", I will not quote. Pay attention to the style of presentation of "Suvorov": well, it's too beautiful style, you read and believe. He did not write himself. Good uncles helped from British intelligence. Information war in an overt form. Judas he.
  35. KRIG55
    KRIG55 10 October 2015 17: 32 New
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    He of course. It is a pity that the holy name has just been blamed.
  36. Jack-b
    Jack-b 10 October 2015 19: 32 New
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    In general, that in sex, that in life pid ... "agog". I wonder at the great and mighty. It’s not for nothing that all this is called the same word.
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    1. Kilo-11
      Kilo-11 11 October 2015 01: 35 New
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      Emotionally, partly illiterate, partly not decent and not culturally, but on the whole correct. Regarding the "historical works" of the traitor Rezun, yes, with the figures and with the coverage of historical events, the traitor in general, everything is accurate, only here are the assessments of these or those historical events / personalities /, conclusions from these events the traitor Rezun does the same for the sake of propaganda, only not ours, but the enemy-American.
  38. Kharp
    Kharp 10 October 2015 20: 21 New
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    I don't care about his sexual orientation, the main thing is that he is trying to push to the masses the idea of ​​equal responsibility for the Second World War of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Disputes about some inaccuracies in the performance characteristics of weapons and numbers of military units make no sense if the whole concept is false. on those who did not teach history, but "passed".
  39. bogdan4ik
    bogdan4ik 10 October 2015 20: 23 New
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    I read the comments here. Well, just "Ah!" Some historians who know everything for sure. And I, here, served in the army in Kiev and found in the local library almost all the books used by Rezun. And I did not find any fraud. Yes, Rezun should have called Stalin a criminal. He lives in the West and this is an essential condition. But to assert that Stalin did not prepare the crushing of the West first by military means, as Suvorov-Rezun, Krasnaya Zvezda, VIZh and many Soviet generals and marshals speak about, and then with a golden ruble, is to lie to himself. And by the way, Putin prepared and implements the crushing of the West just like Stalin. So, in 20 years, we will be guilty to say that we are gray-faced sheep and were not going to do anything like that?
    1. ava09
      ava09 10 October 2015 21: 31 New
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      Quote: bogdan4ik
      So, after 20 years we will be guilty of saying that we are Sivomord sheep and were not going to do anything like that?


      You can say it to yourself today, why wait 20 years?
    2. Kilo-11
      Kilo-11 11 October 2015 01: 43 New
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      It's not clear what you and the GDP have to do with it ?! GDP is the President of our country, and the president of your country, as far as I understand, is Pan Poroshenko. With our President we will somehow figure it out without you, if necessary. By the way, you can not wait 20 years, it was already possible to say yesterday that "... they were not going to do anything like that."
  40. xomaNN
    xomaNN 10 October 2015 20: 37 New
    +5
    Despite the "minus" ebn-amateurs, I will repeat that not only did "Ebn" drink and tear up the huge potential of the army and navy of the USSR, inherited by the Russian Federation, it also created devastation for some angry

    ... but this scum Rezunovskaya, betraying and companions, and the homeland will not be sorry if he popernitsya and drunk to death negative
  41. Old26
    Old26 10 October 2015 21: 14 New
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    Quote: bogdan4ik
    And I, here, served in the army in Kiev and found in the local library almost all the books used by Rezun. And I did not find fraud.

    I checked some quotes too. He really did not find any fraud. It's just that sometimes his quote is "Broken". And it is the "torn-off piece of quotation" that explains it. Here he gives an example from Baghramyan's book (I don't remember the name anymore, but it doesn't matter). The essence of the quote is that Baghramyan sees new "whips" stored at one of the junction stations, EMNIP in Brest (sorry, I don’t know how they are called correctly, but "assembling rails-sleepers") When asked why they were stored here rails-sleepers - received the answer: "to alter the railway tracks from the European gauge to the Soviet". At this, Rezun's quote ends and he concludes that we were preparing for an invasion (this is not literal, but close to the text). But the whole quote sounds somewhat different. The one who said this to Baghramyan continued: "... after all, here, in Western Belarus, the track is western" ... It seems that he did not misrepresent, but the meaning of the cut-off quote is completely different
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 12 October 2015 18: 01 New
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      Quote: Old26
      Quote: bogdan4ik
      And I, here, served in the army in Kiev and found in the local library almost all the books used by Rezun. And I did not find fraud.

      I checked some quotes too. He really did not find any fraud. It's just that sometimes his quote is "Broken". And it is the "torn-off piece of quotation" that explains it. Here he gives an example from Baghramyan's book (I don't remember the name anymore, but it doesn't matter). The essence of the quote is that Baghramyan sees new "whips" stored at one of the junction stations, EMNIP in Brest (sorry, I don’t know how they are called correctly, but "assembling rails-sleepers") When asked why they were stored here rails-sleepers - received the answer: "to alter the railway tracks from the European gauge to the Soviet". At this, Rezun's quote ends and he concludes that we were preparing for an invasion (this is not literal, but close to the text). But the whole quote sounds somewhat different. The one who said this to Baghramyan continued: "... after all, here, in Western Belarus, the track is western" ... It seems that he did not misrepresent, but the meaning of the cut-off quote is completely different


      Huge respect to you for finding an example! And so the meaning of the phrase is completely changing!
    2. morozik
      morozik 13 October 2015 08: 19 New
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      But the whole quote sounds somewhat different. The one who said this to Baghramyan continued: "... after all, here, in Western Belarus, the track is western" ... It seems that he did not misrepresent, but the meaning of the cut-off quote is completely different


      You are absolutely right. Writing a clean lie is impossible. Subtle manipulation of consciousness - 9 axioms with which you agree a priori and begin to trust, and then something new for you - and the brain located by previous attitudes towards trust misses uncritically. Plus, so to speak, flattery - as about the Finnish company with him - pride arises !!)) ... The main purpose of his books, and this all comes down to - the justification of Hitler's attack - supposedly Stalin himself wanted to attack, therefore, what was Hitler's fault ? he defended himself, there is no fault, the Russians themselves are to blame
    3. rohl
      rohl 21 October 2015 02: 38 New
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      Have you read many books? He zealously quotes Zhukov, the alleged "great" marshal. What did he say wrong, about this "great" "genius" ?!
  42. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 10 October 2015 21: 26 New
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    Well, to hell with him.
  43. ava09
    ava09 10 October 2015 21: 28 New
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    Rezun is a TRAITOR, but the one who "exposes" him in this, to put it mildly, dubious way, casts a shadow on the USSR special services. Is it really not clear to the author of such "revelations" that there could be traitors in the KGB of the USSR, but not homosexuals?
  44. arrows
    arrows 10 October 2015 21: 35 New
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    This is how a condom turned into a condom, the purpose is one, but the meaning is different !!
  45. Kibl
    Kibl 10 October 2015 22: 43 New
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    On a stake of it and without lamb fat, dry !!! am
  46. digo
    digo 11 October 2015 03: 03 New
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    The fact that Rezun is a traitor is unambiguous. But ... in principle, he generally praised the SA (Soviet army) and belittled the capabilities of the Western armies. Those. intimidated the Western man in the street with the Soviet Union. And during the Cold War, alarmism in the camp of the enemy will not hurt. I do not think that for the "special forces" there was a big problem in its elimination.
    Those. to the fact that maybe our Cossack was sent ...
    Who will understand their intelligence strategists what they have in mind there, what they muddle there ...
    1. rohl
      rohl 21 October 2015 02: 35 New
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      Traitor? Yes. But is he lying? No. Definitely, he writes the truth.
  47. surrozh
    surrozh 11 October 2015 08: 29 New
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    Rezun’s position differed sharply from the official on many historical issues, and that’s what he took. Personally, it’s now very interesting for me to read books about the Second World War, Rezun tried. The familiar counterintelligence officer (tanker and drifter) disgusted both the books and the author, pointed out many mistakes in the books.
    1. rohl
      rohl 21 October 2015 02: 33 New
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      But I’m looking at the essence, not blunders. There are facts that cannot be turned in any other way. I say this from a height of reading many military books of those who were unequivocally supported by the official authority of the USSR.
  48. mongolos
    mongolos 12 October 2015 20: 30 New
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    at one time I was carried away by the "creativity" of rezun .... honestly, at first I was impressed ... with a breath of "fresh" historical information. In the 90s, people hawala such books with a bang. The syllable is good and writes convincingly, everything is correct, it works out in front of the Anglo-Saxons of the padluck.
    1. rohl
      rohl 21 October 2015 02: 34 New
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      Moreover, his facts can not be turned in the other direction. He is definitely right.
  49. rohl
    rohl 21 October 2015 02: 32 New
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    Here it is cho Mikhalych! I thought I would read something interesting. And here again about pederasty. You still are not tired of doing pederasty ?! When Rezun's analysis begins, they remember pederasty and finish it with it. I don’t know if Rezun was handed over or not, this topic is closer to you, but I think that two children cannot be from a neighbor.
    Determining the meaning and content of books, according to the preferences of the author, is low and stupid! Moreover, no one can confirm this fact.
  50. Pivasik
    Pivasik 17 September 2018 13: 02 New
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    The version of the "thin blue line" is doubtful ... Rezun did not solve independent problems, therefore he was seriously controlled.