The air defense system of the Central District began rearmament on the Triumph air defense system

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In the Central Military District, the re-equipment of the Novosibirsk air defense compound to the C-400 “Triumph” commenced, RIA News message of the district press service.



“The C-400 air defense system is an order of magnitude better than its predecessor C-300 in terms of a larger coverage area and the defeat of various air attack targets,” the release said.

It is also reported that "positions have already been equipped to accommodate new complexes, military personnel in the combat crews have been retrained at the Gatchina training center for anti-aircraft missile forces of the Air Force."

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  1. +7
    6 October 2015 09: 30
    Replace all C 300 systems! One to one, and do not believe those who say that one C400 system replaces several C 300! Change everything is the same or just increase! Powerful anti-aircraft defense, the basis for being afraid to climb! By the way, they could send one complex to Syria for testing! With the guard!
    1. +10
      6 October 2015 09: 42
      The S-400 system is the most effective means, a kind of inoculation, against the permissive virus, from the side of our "partners" and "sworn friends"! And the more there are (complexes), the less desire there will be to interfere in our internal affairs!
      P.S. history has shown that an effective air defense system is VERY STRONGLY hindering the promotion of democracy and other people's will! soldier
      1. +2
        6 October 2015 12: 13
        Quote: makst83
        P.S. history has shown that an effective air defense system is VERY STRONGLY hindering the promotion of democracy and other people's will!


        I never thought that the USSR had poor air defense
        1. 0
          6 October 2015 18: 02
          Well, they got to us, finally! +
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    2. +2
      6 October 2015 10: 04
      One to one no one plans to change. The replacement for the S-300 will be the S-350.
      1. -1
        6 October 2015 10: 59
        The replacement for the S-300 will be the S-350.

        God forbid angry
    3. WKS
      +5
      6 October 2015 10: 25
      Quote: fregina1
      By the way, one complex could be sent to Syria for testing! With the guard!

      And on whom to test it? For Israeli, Turkish or Amer’s purposes? IG aircraft and other flying things are not yet available.
      1. +1
        6 October 2015 10: 31
        Well, how is it no purpose? And Turkish planes bombing Kurds in Syria?
        1. +4
          6 October 2015 10: 35
          Do you offer Russia to shoot down Turkish planes using the S-400?
          1. 0
            6 October 2015 11: 24
            This is our answer to any potential aggressor. Our Bear is not toothless!
  2. +3
    6 October 2015 09: 31
    Good news! More such news!
  3. +8
    6 October 2015 09: 35
    This news is really good.
  4. +1
    6 October 2015 09: 37
    Quote: Yarik
    Good news! More such news!

    Why do not you write this comment in every news?
    1. +3
      6 October 2015 10: 07
      Colonel, do not spam with answers-questions
  5. +5
    6 October 2015 09: 41
    Interesting. The performance characteristics indicate that the complex can accompany (attack on the control unit) 300 and attack (if there is an appropriate BC) 72 targets simultaneously. Moreover, the standard set of 12 launchers of 4 rockets. That is 48 missiles.
    This means that the system cannot be used at full capacity for ammunition.
    Can anyone give a detailed explanation on this?

    Does this mean that it is possible to connect a double-triple set of controllers to one central control unit?
    Or is it that this way the system is protected from information overload during a massive impact?
    Or that the reserve capacities are used to transmit data / duplicate (in case of defeat) the control centers of neighboring divisions, where the ammunition has not yet been exhausted?
    1. 0
      6 October 2015 11: 57
      in general, everything is something like this:
      The S-400 air defense system is interfaced with the Nebo-ME radar and the ACS of Polyana D4M, which selects and tracks up to 500 targets and issues a TsU of 250.
      - Nowadays, anti-radar missiles are very widely used to suppress air defense systems of air defense systems.
      - There is a duplication of the radar: division, regiment, brigade.
      So to reduce to "zero" the combat potential of the air defense system of the division, the regiment will not work. They will still receive the control center from third-party funds in the event of the withdrawal of their own radar and ACS.
      1. 0
        6 October 2015 12: 27
        Thank you very much for the clarification. So my guesses about the purpose of the excess power of the division's control center were correct.
  6. +1
    6 October 2015 09: 43
    And I'm waiting for C-350.
    Still, 12 missiles on the launcher are better than 4.
    Although each system is tailored for its tasks, so there is no point in arguing here.
    C-400 alone also cannot work fully.
    So there most likely the complex will be put on duty.
    1. +2
      6 October 2015 10: 55
      And I'm waiting for C-350.
      Still, 12 missiles on the launcher are better than 4.

      Better, but what kind of rockets are there? 9m96m with a range of 120-150 km and a warhead weight of 24 kg? Such missiles climb into the S-400 launcher, four pieces instead of one 48n6 / 40n6 - a total of 16 pieces.
      hi
      1. Lenivets
        0
        6 October 2015 21: 28
        "9m96m with a range of 120-150 km and a warhead mass of 24 kg? Such missiles also climb into the S-400 launcher"

        Yeah, they climb, but only the S-400 is an order of magnitude more expensive and, accordingly, they will be an order of magnitude less in the troops. wink
        Maybe you do not need to replace one with another?
        If there is a need for medium-range systems, it is better to buy 10 S-350s than one S-400 (a distant system, but with the ability to push a missile from the middle one there). hi
  7. +3
    6 October 2015 09: 51
    Quote: fregina1
    Replace all C 300 systems!


    do not rush. The military version (designed to directly cover troops located near the enemy primarily from ballistic missiles and aircraft and also various other targets) the S-400 still does not exist and apparently will not. But the military version of the S-300V is constantly it is being modernized and undergoing tests (already the S-300V4 variant).
    1. +5
      6 October 2015 10: 02
      For the military version of the S-400, the modification of the S-300V4 can be conditionally taken. Their characteristics are approximately equal.
  8. +1
    6 October 2015 10: 03
    Good news for us, and frightening for our "partners" news.
  9. +1
    6 October 2015 10: 10

    It is also reported that “positions have already been equipped to accommodate the new complexes, the military personnel have undergone retraining as part of combat crews at the Gatchina Training Center Air Force anti-aircraft missile forces. "

    is it on the basis of the LVVPU air defense named after Yu.V. Andropov? .... a good school was ....
  10. +1
    6 October 2015 10: 12
    And removed from duty C 300 put in Syria.
  11. +1
    6 October 2015 10: 27
    "An order of magnitude superior to the S-300" - this is already 10 times !!! It's 1:10. It's true ?
    1. +3
      6 October 2015 10: 32
      no, not at 10. just sometimes not everyone knows what it means "by the order" and write it for beauty)))
    2. 0
      6 October 2015 10: 56
      "An order of magnitude superior to the S-300" - this is already 10 times !!! It's 1:10

      Greetings fizmat! hi
  12. +1
    6 October 2015 10: 29
    Good news. The S-400 is impressive even in the picture. More likely to be rearmed. Former "friends / partners" will immediately lose their pride.
  13. +3
    6 October 2015 10: 36
    We all have our own answer.
  14. 0
    6 October 2015 10: 58
    Why do they write that the range of destruction of aerodynamic targets in the "four hundred" is 250 km? Is it so bad with 40n6? She seems to have already been adopted and put on the conveyor ...
    request
  15. +1
    6 October 2015 11: 14
    Quote: Nik_One
    For the military version of the S-400, the modification of the S-300V4 can be conditionally taken.


    you can take anything. Only from this the reality does not change and the reality is that there is no military version of the S-400 and is not expected.
    Since there is no military analogue to the existing S-300V4, the S-300V4 systems will be in service for many years to come.

    The S-350 will not be a full replacement for the S-300. The S-350 is a cheap alternative (cheaper missiles are used which are enough to control the sky in the military version). As for the characteristics, the characteristics of the third Buk being developed are close to the characteristics of the S-350.

    There is always a difference in characteristics, otherwise no one will rivet many complexes for the same task. Universality requires sacrificing some characteristics that can be very important in a war.
    1. 0
      7 October 2015 01: 21
      Quote: lopvlad
      Since there is no military analogue to the existing S-300V4, the S-300V4 systems will be in service for many years to come.

      Of course they will. Moreover, the S-300B4 began to enter service later than the S-400. I repeat once again that their characteristics are approximately equal.
      As well, however, the characteristics of the S-350 and Buk-M3 are equal, as you correctly noted.
      Quote: lopvlad
      S-350 will not be a full replacement for S-300. S-350 is a cheap alternative

      It depends on what to compare with, the S-350 will come to replace the old S-300PS.
  16. 0
    6 October 2015 11: 43
    And the PBU with the periphery is already on the wireless or the cables, as in the old days, are pulled? I also wonder if the PU-shka is combat-capable on its own? Although, God forbid, we will not have to use them with all the tactical tricks; and for "friends" it is military marketing.
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