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Russian and Israeli military begin consultations on Syria

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The Israeli Prime Minister said that Israel is not going to reduce relations with Russia to the state of another cold war. That is why, according to Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli Ministry of Defense decides to begin consultations with the Russian military structures on the possibility of joint counter-terrorism actions.


Russian and Israeli military begin consultations on Syria


According to Netanyahu, Israel "would like to act freely in Syria, while not engaging in random clashes with the Russian military group operating in this country."

Recall that earlier the Israeli army, responding to the shelling carried out from Syrian territory, carried out artillery strikes exclusively on the positions of the Syrian government forces, arguing that even for provocations by terrorists, Bashar Asad is responsible.

RIA News cites a statement by an Israeli officer who confirmed the words that the Israeli and Russian military are beginning consultations:

On Tuesday, October 6, Deputy Chief of Israel’s General Staff Yair Golan will meet with his Russian counterpart Nikolai Bogdanovsky. The meeting will be held in Tel Aviv and will be part of a two-day visit of the Russian military delegation to Israel. It will discuss, in particular, coordination in the region.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 6 October 2015 06: 37 New
    +18
    Russian and Israeli military begin consultations on Syria


    awesome ..... suddenly an Israeli pilot is accidentally shot down over SYRIA ...

    And there those who want to fry a dime a dozen in a cage of Jewish pilots.

    I am amazed at the Jews ... in an effort to annoy ASADU, they are ready to stick their head in the mouth of the devil and make a deal with him
    1. obraztsov
      obraztsov 6 October 2015 07: 02 New
      +16
      Their main ally in the US region. The US will not approve of attacks on the "moderate opposition." The Israeli people will not approve of inaction. So they beat the government troops. Everyone is happy. Hypocrisy!
      1. kodxnumx
        kodxnumx 6 October 2015 07: 18 New
        +12
        Surely someone needs to be on our side as a Jew! Besides us, at hour X they will give someone a helping hand!
        1. Vita vko
          Vita vko 6 October 2015 08: 05 New
          +4
          Quote: kod3001
          In addition to us, at hour X, they are hen who will lend a helping hand!

          I am sure they understand this. That's just the main priority for Jews has always been and will be money, and only the one who has more of them enjoys authority, i.e. USA. In fact, they wanted to spit not only on other peoples, but also on their own. Unfortunately, war and terrorists are more profitable for Jewish moneybags in Washington than peaceful cooperation with the Arab world.
          1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
            Uncle VasyaSayapin 6 October 2015 09: 05 New
            +3
            Jews live where they live better, i.e. in USA. And Israel, apparently, is simply an instrument of American politics and the place of residence of the most “frostbitten”. They need to agree on anything with Russia.
        2. Tatarus
          Tatarus 6 October 2015 08: 10 New
          0
          Okay so at hour X im x who will lend a hand laughing funny happened. The first time is an organ with a capital, the second with a small letter. laughing
        3. marlin1203
          marlin1203 6 October 2015 09: 31 New
          +4
          In my opinion, the existence of a world caliphate in principle precludes the existence of Israel ...
        4. Buffalo
          Buffalo 6 October 2015 11: 10 New
          +1
          And they believe that the best friend is the United States, where Jews also rule, and for a long time. The United States supplied them with weapons, including nuclear technology, regularly helping with money, sharing intelligence and technology.
        5. anti-Semite
          anti-Semite 6 October 2015 16: 33 New
          -1
          we already held out during the Great Patriotic War and in the United Nations when voting for the creation of Israel and during the first war with the Arabs, and now we receive curses and wishes for a speedy death, do not do good to the Jew and you will not receive evil in return!
      2. SSR
        SSR 6 October 2015 07: 20 New
        +6
        Quote: obraztsov
        Their main ally in the US region. The US will not approve of attacks on the "moderate opposition." The Israeli people will not approve of inaction. So they beat the government troops. Everyone is happy. Hypocrisy!

        Takle sensation from the article that Bibi wants to freely strike at Hezbollah and not igil. Something painfully crafty all looks.
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 6 October 2015 09: 56 New
          0
          Quote: SSR
          Bibi wants to freely strike at Hezbollah and not the igil.

          That is how it is. Hezbollah resists, does not want to obey Israel, and ISIS is far away and does not interfere with Jews. In addition, the FSA is dreaming of the same thing, and their minions like Bibishka, the overthrow of a democratically elected government. And the appointment of their proteges.
      3. Amurets
        Amurets 6 October 2015 07: 48 New
        +4
        Do not forget that in the negotiations on the Iranian nuclear program, Obama “surrendered” Israel, and set him up a couple of times in Europe. So Netanyahu himself needs to be turned around so that his ass isn’t burnt. And this will be until the new US president is elected. And where will he turn the wheel of US foreign policy. Already, Obama does not play a big role in US policy, and soon he will become a “lame duck." Obama will not do anything to harm the Democrats.
      4. Buffalo
        Buffalo 6 October 2015 08: 58 New
        +3
        The impudent Benya, who promised to bomb Russian air defense systems, if delivered to Syria, suddenly abruptly changed his anger at mercy and waved his dog’s tail gently ...
        I realized that they now ordered the road to Syria. There they will tear off his head immediately.
        1. Beaver
          Beaver 6 October 2015 12: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: Bison
          suddenly abruptly changed anger to mercy

          It’s quite a normal model of behavior of the “chosen ones”. If arrogance "does not channel", the trick mode is activated.
      5. Sterlya
        Sterlya 6 October 2015 12: 04 New
        0
        Quote: obraztsov
        Recall that earlier the Israeli army, responding to the shelling carried out from Syrian territory, carried out artillery strikes exclusively on the positions of the Syrian government forces, arguing that even for provocations by terrorists, Bashar Asad is responsible.

        Jews thus simply supported ISIS all the time, on the orders of the big black brother. Well, in other ways, such as preventing the supply of Hezbollah weapons
    2. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 6 October 2015 07: 38 New
      0
      Quote: The same Lech
      I am amazed at the Jews ... in an effort to annoy ASADU, they are ready to stick their head in the mouth of the devil and make a deal with him

      From the time of Moses, at least, they made a deal with Satan, who called himself “Lord, the God of the Fathers of Israel,” becoming his instrument.

      And Turks, Kurds, and Jews are interested in weakening Syria. Everyone is not averse to grab a piece of Syria, if it is possible to dismember it.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 6 October 2015 10: 28 New
        +1
        Satan is also an angel! And there is nothing prudent in this. Satan is the 13th black angel and do we not make a deal with him?
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 6 October 2015 12: 32 New
          +2
          Quote: Amurets
          Satan is also an angel! And there is nothing prejudiced in this.

          How do you feel about fagots, drunkenness, pedophilia and other Satanism?

          Quote: Amurets
          Satan is the 13th black angel, and don't we ourselves make deals with him?

          Satan, Lord, Allah, Jehovah, Yahweh, these are all the names of one character in Jewish folk tales. And it was not appropriate for a Russian person to conclude deals with him.
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 6 October 2015 12: 50 New
            +2
            How do you feel about fagots, drunkenness, pedophilia and other Satanism?
            Sharply negative
            [quote = Amur] Satan is the 13th black angel and don’t we make a deal with him ourselves? [/ quote]
            Satan, Lord, Allah, Jehovah, Yahweh, these are all the names of one character in Jewish folk tales. And it was not appropriate for a Russian person to conclude deals with him. [/ Quote]
            But here everything is more complicated. If the Holy Scripture, the Bible, the Gospel, Orthodoxy in Russia are Jewish tales, then I have nothing to say. Although I am a heretic and atheist, I’m used to respect someone else’s faith and opinions of others.
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 6 October 2015 15: 39 New
              0
              Quote: Amurets
              And here it’s more complicated. If the Scripture, the Bible, the Gospel

              And you read the old testament. Hollywood horror movies nervously smoke. Yes, and there are many "scriptures." As for those who like to refer to the Gospels, in which they seem to believe, I will say that half of the saints they have are Old Testament. Yes, and Jesus himself in the gospel said - "30. I and the Father are one." (Holy Gospel of John 10:30).

              Quote: Amurets
              Orthodoxy in Russia

              Orthodoxy began to be called so in Russia after the reforms of Nikon. Before that, it was faith. And, as they say, it was imposed on us by fire and sword.

              Quote: Amurets
              Although I am both a heretic and an atheist, I am used to respecting the faith of others and the opinions of others.

              So you deal with the Bible with a pencil in your hands and stickers to help you.
    3. VP
      VP 6 October 2015 07: 46 New
      +1
      They are not concerned with Assad, but with Hezbollah with whom Israel has permanent rams.
      The problem is that Hezbola supports Assad and Assad supplies them.
      1. SSR
        SSR 6 October 2015 09: 09 New
        +4
        Quote: VP
        They are not concerned with Assad, but with Hezbollah with whom Israel has permanent rams.
        The problem is that Hezbola supports Assad and Assad supplies them.

        Then continue to the end. Not Assad, but Iran, and it would seem, why is Israel in an anti-Iranian hysteria hysteria hand in hand with Arab monarchies? Looks like they are united by democracy!))))
  2. kolkulon
    kolkulon 6 October 2015 06: 40 New
    +3
    Ours have already hinted to them twice, flying in on a visit. Got the hint.)
    1. Raptor_RB
      Raptor_RB 6 October 2015 06: 46 New
      +4
      Ours to visit the Turks flew. But the Turks are in no hurry to show understanding of the current political moment wink They are getting numb, Panimaesh. Well, nothing, in the Armed Forces of the WF are patient, polite and persistent doctors.
  3. shinobi
    shinobi 6 October 2015 06: 44 New
    +18
    It’s one thing to naughty Assad’s Syrians, another thing to get from the Russians in return. The quality of impressions is different.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 6 October 2015 06: 48 New
      +6
      Quote: shinobi
      The quality of the impressions is different.

      Now the Professor will explain everything to you in a qualified manner ... wink
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 6 October 2015 07: 02 New
        +13
        Now the Professor will explain everything to you in a qualified manner ...


        I love the professor ... despite his opposite stance on many things.

        This is perhaps the only person from ISRAEL who reasonably proves to us his vision of the fact ...
        do not offend him ... without him, the forum will be a little pale.
    2. Tatarus
      Tatarus 6 October 2015 08: 13 New
      +3
      Professor personality is extraordinary and very necessary in VO. He must write a collective letter so that he would not even think about leaving. I'm serious.
  4. Gloomy Hedgehog
    Gloomy Hedgehog 6 October 2015 06: 44 New
    +4
    Only maintaining a tough stance on Syria, Russia will force everyone to the concerted actions of the coalition.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 October 2015 06: 50 New
      +7
      Quote: Gloomy Hedgehog
      Russia will force everyone to coordinated actions of the coalition

      Something I did not hear about the actions of the Western coalition. If it exists, it is only in words.
      1. Tatarus
        Tatarus 6 October 2015 08: 14 New
        0
        Boltology is a science that is addictive. laughing
      2. Buffalo
        Buffalo 6 October 2015 11: 06 New
        +3
        If the blind man does not see the Sun, this does not mean that he is not there.
        Your memory is girlish ... Little to remember the bombing of Serbia? And Libya?
  5. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 6 October 2015 06: 47 New
    +7
    Israel would like act freely In Syria

    Israeli army ... made artillery strikes only on the positions of the government forces of Syria

    Israel captured the Golan Heights from Syria during the six-day war in June 1967. The territory was officially annexed in the 1981 year. Naturally, they still want to. And they don’t even say that they will fight with “terrorism” or on the side of the coalition, but simply “want to act freely” in the territory of another state.
    1. Beaver
      Beaver 6 October 2015 12: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: MainBeam
      And they don’t even say that they will fight with “terrorism” or on the side of the coalition, but simply “want to act freely” in the territory of another state.

      You noticed that too. good hi
    2. tongilguk
      tongilguk 6 October 2015 12: 09 New
      +1
      Well, if so, then not with those they sit at the negotiating table.
    3. Hello
      Hello 6 October 2015 12: 13 New
      0
      Quote: MainBeam
      Israel would like act freely In Syria

      Israeli army ... made artillery strikes only on the positions of the government forces of Syria

      Israel captured the Golan Heights from Syria during the six-day war in June 1967. The territory was officially annexed in the 1981 year. Naturally, they still want to. And they don’t even say that they will fight with “terrorism” or on the side of the coalition, but simply “want to act freely” in the territory of another state.

      So for the sake of sports interest, where did this statement from Bibi come from? What I read today in the newspaper is very different from "want to act freely"
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 6 October 2015 13: 23 New
        +1
        I would like to ask such a question? Yes, you agree to interact with Putin and Russia, but what about Assad, Iran and finally Hezbollah? Understand, is it such a tight knot that it is very difficult to untie it? And Russia is tied up in this knot.
        1. Hello
          Hello 6 October 2015 18: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: Amurets
          I would like to ask such a question? Yes, you agree to interact with Putin and Russia, but what about Assad, Iran and finally Hezbollah? Understand, is it such a tight knot that it is very difficult to untie it? And Russia is tied up in this knot.

          Interest Ask. But what about the appeal of Iran to destroy us? To cooperate? Do you know that Hizbullah is a child of Iran? Do they also cooperate with them? Israel and Syria at war what kind of cooperation
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 7 October 2015 00: 13 New
            +1
            Yes, where the British were there, so many tight knots were tied that they could be resolved for more than a century. This is not only Israel-Palestine.
      2. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam 6 October 2015 16: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Hello
        What I read today in the newspaper is very different from "want to act freely"

        And what was written in your press?
        1. Hello
          Hello 6 October 2015 18: 14 New
          -1
          Quote: MainBeam
          Quote: Hello
          What I read today in the newspaper is very different from "want to act freely"

          And what was written in your press?

          I personally read something like the following: We currently border Russia and must take this into account, there is no enmity between our countries but there is a serious misunderstanding in the interests. We must convey to Russia our understanding of the issue and try to understand the Russian side.
          I can not vouch for accuracy, but something like that was the promise.
          Source newspaper "Post".
  6. B- 3ACADE
    B- 3ACADE 6 October 2015 06: 48 New
    +7
    Finally! Aleluia! The smart will speak with the smart and the brave.
    Because many Jews are not angry, and sometimes you want to give them
    podzatylnikov and still need to speak in the BV with them. Why?
    Yes, put in a row all With B.V. and ask yourself with whom you can
    finally agree? Of course with Zyama, he knows where it will hurt, he's a doctor ...
  7. leks
    leks 6 October 2015 06: 49 New
    +4
    News +.
    But Jews, this strange nation, are responsible for provocations from the (igil) Bashar al-Assad, or not, they have a good teacher in the form of amers, so you will see soon that it falls on a Tel Aviv meteorite and B. Asad is to blame .
    This world has gone crazy for a long time. fool
  8. Almatinets
    Almatinets 6 October 2015 06: 50 New
    +4
    Israel "would like to act freely in Syria ...." - the phrase Beni touches, does Assad also be free in his actions in Israel? Or isn’t it kosher?
    1. Beaver
      Beaver 6 October 2015 07: 00 New
      +2
      Goat too
      would like to act freely in
      garden, and the fox in the chicken coop. Why not? Only two conditions: a leash and a muzzle.
  9. valokordin
    valokordin 6 October 2015 06: 50 New
    +4
    It would be nice to get Israel as an ally, and not an adversary, because there are a quarter of our Russian people. I think Netanyahu understands that the IG threatens them.
    1. 740
      740 6 October 2015 08: 21 New
      +5
      Quote: valokordin
      because there is a quarter of our Russian people.

      Well, straight, all that is left of them is to drink vodka, fat and passports of the Russian Federation, just in case, so to speak. hi
    2. dauria
      dauria 6 October 2015 09: 09 New
      0
      It would be nice to get Israel as an ally, not an adversary


      Of course, "only their complete absence" can be worse than allies ... smile
      Well, what about the "Russian ours" people, so it’s easy to incite the Molitov’s to Tagans to stabbing (one district of one city, border-road). Vova at the beginning of 2014 also stated that he had no idea how the Russians and Ukrainians would fight. Like families, schools, colleges, a common country, etc. sad
  10. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 6 October 2015 06: 51 New
    +4
    “Even Assad is responsible for provocations by terrorists.” 3 paragraph below.
    What an interesting thought, Somehow the reasoning about Boeing.ge is recalled. This idea can be interpreted in different ways "" to whom I want - I give it. "Or" his own lord. "
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 6 October 2015 07: 33 New
      +1
      As for Boeing, it’s precisely noticed, soon the report of a bunch of liars will be voiced, Israel’s argument about the guilt of the state in everything that happens on its territory will fit in as a precedent in international practice.
      Moreover, the other day Ukrainian policymakers took care of the guarantee not to use the GVH, and the pastor spoke out about turning to the Russian Federation for help in the fight against terrorism.
      International relations, all the same, are heading towards complete insanity, constantly demonstrating the mental and psychological inconsistency of dill politics, and doubts about the adequacy of the forces that still support them.
  11. Name
    Name 6 October 2015 06: 55 New
    +5
    According to Netanyahu, Israel "would like to act freely in Syria, while not engaging in random clashes with the Russian military group operating in this country."- so everything will depend on why the children of Moses have freedom of action in Syria ...
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 6 October 2015 07: 35 New
      +4
      How for what? To destroy Assad, but Russia did not intervene in this and put the Scarecrow in the form of the Scarecrow on the throne, and transfer the war to the territory of Russia.
    2. Buffalo
      Buffalo 6 October 2015 09: 03 New
      0
      And what did they forget there, in Syria?
  12. mamont5
    mamont5 6 October 2015 07: 18 New
    +5
    Quote: The same Lech
    This is perhaps the only person from ISRAEL who reasonably proves to us his vision of the fact ...
    do not offend him ... without him, the forum will be a little pale.

    Yes, no one seems to offend him. So, purely on friendly terms. wink
    As for the Russian-Israeli consultations, then ... it seems like we do not need to fight with Israel. And I think that they also understand this. And considering that Netanyahu has good (friendly) relations with GDP, unlike their relations with Obama, then everything will be normal.
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 6 October 2015 08: 18 New
      +1
      My childhood friend (a Jew himself by his mother, but stubbornly considers himself a Russian) always says "to be friends with a Jew, bury the loot"
  13. DREDD
    DREDD 6 October 2015 07: 46 New
    +4
    What does "free" mean? Go then agree with Assad: is it possible to fly over Syria or not. And why did it suddenly take the Jews to bomb the terrorion (read the Allies), which weaken all the countries around Israel?
  14. Samarskiy
    Samarskiy 6 October 2015 07: 58 New
    -6
    We will liberate Syria, and then, together with Israel, you can also hammer on Turkey. Strait control would not hurt us.
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 6 October 2015 08: 21 New
      +1
      So what? All fucking. Damn us geopolitics. I do not care how much our economy will sustain. We will fight forever (somewhere far away) and tighten our belts. You are ready?

      If the Russians learn not to eat or drink, they will take over the whole world. (Tatars)
  15. afrikanez
    afrikanez 6 October 2015 08: 09 New
    +1
    Israel "would like to operate freely in Syria, without entering into casual clashes with the Russian military group operating in this country."
    Well, and what. why should you do there then if you want to single-handedly what to do there. Without the consent and knowledge of Russia. Israel already has something to do.
  16. Old26
    Old26 6 October 2015 08: 11 New
    0
    Israel can in principle be penetrated. For them, Hezbollah is like a bone in the throat. The shelling is on the territory of Israel. On the other hand, the same Hezbollah helps Assad in the fight against his opposition, and now with ISIS. At the same time, Hezbollah supports and equips Iran. In short. The node is still the same. Israel wants to solve two problems at once. Do not enter into conflict with Russia and at the same time untie your hands when acting against the Hezbollah. Well. Let's see what they agree on
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 6 October 2015 09: 03 New
      +1
      Volodya! Hello. A long time ago we have not met on the forum. The question is basically rhetorical, and no one will give an accurate forecast. In principle, will we resolve this conflict or not? Has the knot of contradictions started too tight? Did Netanyahu most likely not expect betrayal of the Americans? What do you think? on this occasion?
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 6 October 2015 09: 58 New
      +2
      "The node is still that." ///

      The knot is such that without half a liter you can’t dissolve smile .
      In the Middle East, an intra-Islamic Sunni-Shiite war is blazing
      "from dark to dark ...". Religious war "until complete and final victory"
      over the "wrong Muslims." And the rest are already under distribution.
      Helping any of countless groups, parties, you automatically get up on
      side of either Shiites or Sunnis. Israel hollows in Gaza Sunnis, in Lebanon - Shiites.
      Therefore, we are already stuck on the most ... yes, it’s usual for 65 years smile .
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 6 October 2015 10: 48 New
        +1
        Yes. Because of religious dogmas, the most bloody wars are going on, and half a liter will not be enough to figure it out.
      2. anti-Semite
        anti-Semite 6 October 2015 16: 56 New
        0
        Qatar with Saudi Arabia, like both Wahhabis and they can’t tolerate each other, and then there is Oman with Muslim Ibadis so that half a liter will be small
  17. regdan
    regdan 6 October 2015 08: 12 New
    +1
    Israel of Russia is not an ally. First, let the citizens of Israel free themselves from their deceitful corrupt government.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 6 October 2015 08: 30 New
      +4
      Quote: regdan
      First, let the citizens of Israel free themselves from their deceitful corrupt government.

      A mighty thought. Laughed, representing the Maidan in Tel Aviv. Scheduled for Saturday, therefore did not take place ...
      1. regdan
        regdan 6 October 2015 08: 54 New
        +2
        You will laugh when Israel once again throws all. Then rye as much as you like ...
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 6 October 2015 09: 14 New
          +1
          Israel is at a crossroads now. And has Netanyahu run into Stone with directions where to go? And he will have a difficult choice, which depends not only on the fate of Israel but also the fate of the entire Middle East. There are also political and other news sites regretting the fact that it was not necessary to touch Saddam and Gaddafi and this mess. By the way, there are regrets and major Western politicians.
          1. Das Boot
            Das Boot 6 October 2015 09: 23 New
            0
            Quote: Amurets
            By the way, there are regrets and major Western politicians.

            I think Trump spoke out like that. Of course, he is a politician, but he knows how to have fun in his own way.
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 6 October 2015 09: 31 New
              +1
              I even read these regrets from Hollande yesterday. And not only that, there were also deputies of the European Parliament.
              1. Das Boot
                Das Boot 6 October 2015 09: 52 New
                0
                Quote: Amurets
                I even read these regrets from Hollande yesterday. And not only that, there were also deputies of the European Parliament.

                maybe it's just a projection on Assad to keep a good face on a bad game?
                1. Amurets
                  Amurets 6 October 2015 11: 10 New
                  +1
                  Maybe, but I don’t think. Most likely, a knot with refugees began to tighten here, and Hollande also had a puncture with the Mistrals. US aid, but with Poland’s help. In the Financial Times there was a comment that on Indian and Brazilian orders (I don’t remember exactly) France, according to various estimates, lost 3 to 4 lard. Yesterday in the news on Yandex it was: Duda blundered Hollande about Russia and got a drag. Hollande said it wasn’t for the press that Duda would get away with his proposals.
                  1. Das Boot
                    Das Boot 6 October 2015 11: 46 New
                    0
                    Quote: Amurets
                    . Yesterday in the news on Yandex it was: Duda blundered something to Hollande about Russia and got a drag.

                    xs, I'm an old cynic and I do not believe in all these European curtsies towards Russia. With the Mistral, the French screwed up seriously, although, IMHO, it is not worth it to exaggerate before a national catastrophe. States sold the TTP agreement (Obama said that, like, a place in the history of America provided himself with this laughing), they will now squeeze the transatlantic, using our confrontation with Europe. Our economic interests in Europe are vast and important for us, but so far, these Merkel’s Holland are engaged in squeezing out acne and scratching any Polish-Baltic iDiots behind the ear instead of constructive relationships - only one is won. More precisely - one.
                    Kmk.
                    1. Amurets
                      Amurets 6 October 2015 12: 35 New
                      +1
                      This is not a reverence towards Russia, but a constant fact that we are losing money because of you. It seems that Europeans have found out something about Putin’s talks with Obama. Why am I making such conclusions? Maybe I'm wrong, but yesterday in the news, There was a message that ours began the production of drilling rigs and drilling tools. Ours could not start this production without the Americans. Special machines are needed, and only Americans produce them and only 2 firms. The machines are small but very accurate. And it seems to me that for sanctions Americans will throw Europe well. because it looks like the United States is trying to get into the trade of Russia and China, on an equal footing. Moreover, in the Far East there are raw materials which are no longer anywhere in the world or are in very limited quantities.
        2. Das Boot
          Das Boot 6 October 2015 09: 20 New
          0
          Quote: regdan
          You will laugh when Israel once again throws all.

          and that’s just the way of things. Jews did not sign for Assad, nor for the opposition, nor for anyone else. They generally do not care, whose disc flew towards them - they will answer, not really caring who shot there on the other side. But coordination with the Russian Aerospace Forces and setting priorities is another.
  18. Engineer
    Engineer 6 October 2015 08: 44 New
    0
    Benjamin, calm down, no one will bomb you in the near future ...
  19. Pacifist
    Pacifist 6 October 2015 08: 55 New
    +1
    Consultation and a reasonable approach are good. The main thing is to stop the foul practice of striking the back of the Syrian army and finally engage in a real fight against the scum that is found there. Here Israel is full of tsimes and gesheft. There is an option to put an end to the wilds on their borders, and Syria is now clearly not in conflict with anyone else.
  20. slizhov
    slizhov 6 October 2015 09: 20 New
    +1
    This is another matter ...
    We need peace in the Middle East, including through negotiations with Palestine.
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  22. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 October 2015 09: 49 New
    +4
    not going to reduce relations with Russia to another cold war

    And here Jewish practicalism is felt. We will only support this.
  23. Old26
    Old26 6 October 2015 10: 23 New
    +2
    Quote: Amurets
    Volodya! Hello. A long time ago we have not met on the forum. The question is basically rhetorical, and no one will give an accurate forecast. In principle, will we resolve this conflict or not? Has the knot of contradictions started too tight? Did Netanyahu most likely not expect betrayal of the Americans? What do you think? on this occasion?


    Hey. It was four days in Abkhazia. Training (seminar) plus a day
    excursions in Abkhazia. Cell phones do not take (our SIM cards do not work there), Wi-Fi - through a stump deck. So I couldn’t even go to VO ...

    The knot, of course, is tied up there so that you can’t untie it, you can only cut it. I think that the conflict is in principle insoluble. After all, there will always be dissatisfied. Starting from the internecine war between the movements of Islam and ending with historical roots

    We sometimes omit uncomfortable moments in history. Take our history teaching. We have always been told that the poor Arabs are being oppressed by Israel, taking their lands and other things from them. But the deeper you try to get into history, the more understandable the position becomes. After all, the first war in the BV did not begin due to an Israeli attack. Israel has implemented the UN decision to create a state. The Palestinians did not even begin to do so. And the day after the announcement of the creation of the State of Israel, he was attacked by coalition forces, which included Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and a bunch of different irregular formations.

    Yes, as a result of the war, Israel not only defended its independence, but also chopped off part of the territories of its neighbors. Well, the war was ...

    Well, then everything mixed up. In this case, the situation seems hopeless, not having one solution. Iran has always been an adversary of Israel. And it was not for nothing that the Iranian president called for Israel to be wiped off the world map. And Iran will always support the forces opposing Israel (nothing personal, ordinary geopolitics). And that means supporting Hezbollah. And if Israel has a chance to come to an agreement with Syria, after all the state is, but hardly with the illegal armed formations. This is so, if it is very short and of course this is my IMHO
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 6 October 2015 11: 41 New
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      Yes! The most ambitious subject, HISTORY, whoever wants something, writes that. As far as I remember the story, and I didn’t teach it from textbooks, at least from the official ones, the first big war between the Sunnis and Shiites was in 1513. I don’t remember who I read, but I remember it for the whole. The most bloody wars are due to some dogma of faith that is not worth a damn.
      1. apro
        apro 6 October 2015 12: 29 New
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        Amurets wars are being waged for economic interest, and religion, ideology, complexion, or national equipment is a matter of third importance as a spice with which the main course is served. It’s just that many economic contradictions are difficult to resolve because of who I or my opponent will eat.
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 6 October 2015 13: 55 New
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          But they begin almost ideologically, politically. religious basis, and end with economic clashes. If you recall the communist ideology, then politics is primary and the economy is secondary. So let's not quibble over words, but really look at things. During each war, political decisions are made, and only then economic issues.
    2. Neksel
      Neksel 7 October 2015 00: 40 New
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      Quote: Old26
      Iran has always been an enemy of Israel


      And here, with an amendment - only after 1979. Before that, Iran had almost the only ally in the region - just Israel.
      1. apro
        apro 7 October 2015 12: 26 New
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        For this, Israel helped to overthrow the Shah, the security service of the Shah was overseen by Jews.
        1. Hello
          Hello 7 October 2015 13: 04 New
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          Quote: apro
          For this, Israel helped to overthrow the Shah, the security service of the Shah was overseen by Jews.

          It is unlikely that the shah was an IDO, such things as the security service of the first person are not given to anyone.
          1. apro
            apro 7 October 2015 13: 23 New
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            Hello, read Wikipedia, it is popularly written there with whom Sawak Shah collaborated, for which a coup was also made.
            1. Hello
              Hello 7 October 2015 20: 12 New
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              Quote: apro
              Hello, read Wikipedia, it is popularly written there with whom Sawak Shah collaborated, for which a coup was also made.

              That fact cooperated. The fact that Israel participated in the coup in Iran your fantasies
        2. Neksel
          Neksel 7 October 2015 13: 10 New
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          Quote: apro
          For this, Israel helped to overthrow the Shah, the security service of the Shah was overseen by Jews.


          Yeah, it was very necessary ... Of course, in everything the "hand of Israel" ...
          1. apro
            apro 7 October 2015 13: 38 New
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            Probably it was necessary, after all, at the last military parade, the shah sat with Podgorny.
  24. Bully
    Bully 6 October 2015 11: 07 New
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    Bad relations between Jews and Arabs existed 2000 years ago. It seems that those who came up with the idea of ​​creating a modern state of Israel in the heart of the Arab world made a great flush for Jews and Arabs.
  25. apro
    apro 6 October 2015 11: 09 New
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    Israel itself is a terrorist state and any agreements with it do not make sense, interests opposite to Russia Jews want death Assad Russia needs Assad alive.
  26. dojjdik
    dojjdik 6 October 2015 11: 23 New
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    the Ben-infanticide is still that nonsense; they already taxied here in Russia in the 90s and Ukrainian nationalists are atrocious due to the dough of American Jews
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 6 October 2015 13: 13 New
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      You are mistaken, Dear. The first Bolshevik government included many Jews; Trotsky, Sverdlov, Zemlyachka. These are the most prominent. There were many more. The richest Jews live mainly in the UK and the richest of them are the Rothschilds, whose banking system enveloped the whole world .
  27. roskot
    roskot 6 October 2015 11: 31 New
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    Jews are cunning people and sense their benefit.
  28. sisa29
    sisa29 6 October 2015 11: 57 New
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    Due to circumstances, I am now in Israel. It is interesting to see the country from the inside. Almost every third Russian-speaking. Tel Aviv, as it turned out, is a city where half of modern houses and half of old three or four floors do not look rich. And the Israelis themselves do not live very richly and luxury is not very visible here. The relationship between the population is even regardless of nationalities. Communicating with the locals is much nicer than with the same Arabs in Egypt, no one grabs hands, does not solicit buy and buy. What is striking is that much has been built here for the convenience of the population, free toilets on the waterfront, many benches, fountains with water, places by the sea for picnics.
    Yandex set up local news and was surprised: every day incidents with Palestinians threw stones with a knife and threw stones ... And all the Arabs were the instigators. Relations with Palestine are reminiscent of ours with Ukraine. They supply them to all, and those in return crap. We from Russia do not see how they are getting here and are not allowed to live in peace.
    1. apro
      apro 6 October 2015 12: 09 New
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      Poor Jews, even in Israel, are not allowed to live in peace, they drove Poland from Spain, England, Germany, Poland, and nowhere can they live normally with the locals. Maybe they are not local in Israel?
    2. Beaver
      Beaver 6 October 2015 12: 28 New
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      Quote: sisa29
      no one is missing hands doesn't buy buy

      It is amazing how a country can change in a couple of years!
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 6 October 2015 13: 11 New
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        Quote: Castor
        Quote: sisa29
        no one is missing hands doesn't buy buy

        It is amazing how a country can change in a couple of years!

        and what, two years ago were missing? On Carmel or a flea in Jaffa - maybe. Or were they pestering you at the diamond exchange?
        1. sisa29
          sisa29 6 October 2015 18: 54 New
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          I don’t want to argue with you, probably somewhere and here they get it with my obsession, I personally only shared my impressions.
    3. Amurets
      Amurets 6 October 2015 14: 15 New
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      You haven’t discovered anything new for me, but the most important thing you understood is that every country is known from the inside. My wife read modern love affairs of an American writer. I overlooked love lyrics and what? Yes, the same problems of housing, earnings, health care. And nothing more than simple life The people in different countries are no different around the world.
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 6 October 2015 15: 31 New
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        Quote: Amurets
        My wife read modern love affairs by an American writer.

        to squeeze the pulp from the wife in a paperback - an act worthy of respect ...
      2. sisa29
        sisa29 6 October 2015 18: 50 New
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        Absolutely Dear I agree with you. And a note about Israel will share its impressions about the country so little
  29. Arzoo
    Arzoo 6 October 2015 23: 35 New
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    Quote: Hello
    Quote: MainBeam
    Quote: Hello
    What I read today in the newspaper is very different from "want to act freely"

    And what was written in your press?

    I personally read something like the following: We currently border Russia and must take this into account, there is no enmity between our countries but there is a serious misunderstanding in the interests. We must convey to Russia our understanding of the issue and try to understand the Russian side.
    I can not vouch for accuracy, but something like that was the promise.
    Source newspaper "Post".

    Bibi is engaged in fraud. The only thing that interests him is a springboard for an attack on Iran. It’s very necessary to say that it’s convenient for Israel to fly through the deserted (in the future) Syrian desert than to beg the monarchy to provide overflight and refueling, and later do what they plan to do with Iran. Is it really interesting that at least someone in the State Department is led to his numbers? It will be seen in the amount of military assistance provided to Israel.
    And if you get help, Duc will say any amenities. Up to the fact that the stars over the Kremlin still recognize six-pointed.
    1. Hello
      Hello 7 October 2015 13: 05 New
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      Oh, and what is Syria immediately Iran? Would you even look at the map
      1. Arzoo
        Arzoo 7 October 2015 20: 23 New
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        Also in Syria it is beyond Syria, flesh to the borders of Iran. You should at least look at the map. And when it was some borders that stopped the Zionists, all the more conditional?
  30. Arzoo
    Arzoo 6 October 2015 23: 59 New
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    Quote: Hello
    Quote: MainBeam
    Israel would like act freely In Syria

    Israeli army ... made artillery strikes only on the positions of the government forces of Syria

    Israel captured the Golan Heights from Syria during the six-day war in June 1967. The territory was officially annexed in the 1981 year. Naturally, they still want to. And they don’t even say that they will fight with “terrorism” or on the side of the coalition, but simply “want to act freely” in the territory of another state.

    So for the sake of sports interest, where did this statement from Bibi come from? What I read today in the newspaper is very different from "want to act freely"

    Freely means to fly freely to Iran. And what’s wrong here? It is very clear how the "Russian" liberal opposition, which has always been against any line of power, is crowing in this situation. And here it is. Quote Nose

    Whoever bombed Syria today, I warmly salute it, and if it is erased from the face of the Earth at all - I will not be upset once, only I will say thanks

    The benefit of the RF IC threatened to tell him where the toilet is and where its place is.