Secretary General: Groups against which an operation is being conducted in Syria should be included in UN resolutions

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The military campaign in Syria should be conducted only against the groups listed in the UN lists, reports RIA News Statement by the Secretary General of the Organization Ban Ki-moon.



“Terrorist groups against which a military campaign is being waged must be indicated in the relevant resolutions of the UN Security Council”, - the Secretary General stressed at the meeting with Sergey Lavrov.

"The Secretary General and the Minister agreed on the need for a comprehensive resolution of the conflict in Syria through political means," the UN press service said after the meeting.

On Wednesday, Lavrov said at a meeting of the UN Security Council that the IG must be recognized as an "independent terrorist organization" with all the ensuing consequences. In the meantime, a number of Western countries (including the United States) refuse to do this, claiming that the IG is part of the Al-Qaida group.

“We also consider it necessary to include the“ Islamic State ”as a separate figure in the antiterrorist sanctions list of the UN Security Council. Delay in resolving this obvious issue becomes counterproductive in terms of the effectiveness of our organization’s counter-terrorism efforts. ”- said Lavrov.
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  1. +31
    2 October 2015 10: 35
    Oh how cunning. And the United States blocked the inclusion of ISIS in the list of terrorist organizations of the UN. I wonder how much Ban Ki-moon paid the United States?
    1. +6
      2 October 2015 10: 38
      Ban Ki-moon is always sleeping! laughing
      (My wife says so, looking at him. (Look at his eyes - always - almost closed))
      1. +3
        2 October 2015 10: 43
        At least, he is napping!
        1. +4
          2 October 2015 14: 03
          Let's just say that there will be a Security Council resolution on the fight against ISIS, then determine who to bomb, and while the VKS Rossi works at the request of Syria, it is only their business to destroy.
      2. +1
        2 October 2015 11: 09
        and ask for a complete list of these groups in the CIA and other departments ... with their light hand, and this monstrous action began ...
        1. +5
          2 October 2015 11: 31
          Let the UN oblige representatives of all groups with placards to walk on which the name of their group is indicated in large letters in Cyrillic and not come close to representatives of other groups. And whoever violates, let Allah sorts in the next world.
        2. +4
          2 October 2015 11: 39
          Quote: Sasha 19871987
          and ask for a complete list of these groups in the CIA and other departments ... with their light hand, and this monstrous action began ...

          Sir, what are you talking about? Here is the complete list:
          The governments of Turkey, the USA, France, Germany, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Kingdom made a joint appeal to the Russian Federation for an immediate cessation of air strikes against the Syrian opposition. The document was posted today, October 2, on the website of the Turkish Foreign Ministry.

          http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1983339.html
          1. +1
            2 October 2015 15: 19
            I think there are 2 options for the development of events. Or the UN itself naturally gravitates towards these violating countries (I mean Turkey, the USA, France, Germany, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Great Britain). Or the Russian diplomats are playing their card - they are looking for ways to start actually cutting off financial flows, and not just bombing bases, and for this you need to use the lawful decision of the UN Security Council (this is a response to the US blocking the Russian initiative on IS).
      3. 0
        2 October 2015 13: 07
        Pokemon is sleeping, service is on.
    2. +23
      2 October 2015 10: 40
      Lavrov, awesome literate man! It is good that he is the head of our Foreign Ministry, and not the American one. good
      1. +25
        2 October 2015 10: 41
        Meanwhile, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine made a statement. laughing
    3. +4
      2 October 2015 10: 41
      Quote: Wend
      I wonder how much Ban Ki-moon paid the United States?

      Do you think Ban Ki-moon was appointed to the post of Secretary General not under the patronage of the United States? So he fulfills his purpose.
    4. +17
      2 October 2015 10: 41
      Did the UN wake up How much has Russia talked about this problem ..? Now we ourselves somehow ... and there are countries that will help us in this matter .. We are Russian and it all speaks for itself! hi
    5. +4
      2 October 2015 10: 43
      Something about today's night and morning strokes is still silent. Maybe someone has information - please share.
      1. +4
        2 October 2015 10: 58
        Stop ranting, we will beat in silence.
      2. +3
        2 October 2015 11: 09
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Something about today's night and morning strokes is still silent. Maybe someone has information - please share.

        After yesterday’s information attacks, they can break off with coverage of events - they will be quietly hollowing or reports will be issued with a delay of a couple of days.
      3. 0
        2 October 2015 11: 22
        the corpses of civilians the Western press considers
    6. +3
      2 October 2015 10: 44
      Quote: Wend
      And the United States blocked the inclusion of ISIS in the list of UN terrorist organizations. I wonder how much Ban Ki-moon paid the United States?

      ----------------------
      They promised that he would sleep with his beloved Conchita Wurst .. laughing
      1. +1
        2 October 2015 12: 24
        Quote: Altona
        They promised that he would sleep with his beloved Conchita Wurst ..



        Is he with her or is he - his ???
    7. +14
      2 October 2015 10: 45
      Quote: Wend
      I wonder how much Ban Ki-moon paid the United States?

      And he already has the State Department on a salary. It's okay, let's call ISIS a different name and include it in the list smile And, in general, there you get tired of separating them from each other - every wild kurbashi considers himself the head of a political organization. Russia needs to state directly: "We do not intend to understand the sorts of crap, we will kill everyone who resists the Syrian government troops. Oppositionists who want a peaceful political solution to the conflict stop hostilities and step aside until the end of the military phase."
    8. +8
      2 October 2015 10: 47
      Syrian army repulsed Islamist offensive in Kuneitra province

      On September 25, 2015, militants of Islamic groups tried to organize an offensive in the Syrian province of Kuneitra in order to capture three villages (Tel al-Amar, Tel al-Hamriya and Mazraat al-Amal), a breakthrough to the village of Harfa and surrounded by a group of government forces north of Kuneitra city.

      In part, the Islamists managed to solve this problem, they advanced a little in the area of ​​Tel al-Amar and began preparations for a breakthrough on Harfa. On October 1, gangs made several attempts to capture Tel al-Hamriya and Mazraat al-Amal.

      Intensive battles lasted more than 10 hours, but the militants did not achieve a significant result. They managed to occupy one of the heights and shell from Harf mortars. Local residents took refuge, so there were no dead from the shelling. Several people were injured, apartment buildings were damaged.

      By the end of the day, under the cover of rocket and artillery fire, the Syrian army threw the Islamists back to their original positions. The militants suffered losses killed (according to various sources, from 11 to 25 people) and wounded. Warehouses with weapons, mortar and artillery positions of Islamic groups were destroyed in the villages of Jubata al-Kashab and Tranje.

      Despite the successful reflection of the attacks, the threat to Harf remains. The Islamists concentrated a rather large group in the area of ​​the villages of Jubata al-Kashab, Tranje and Ufaniya, aimed at ousting the Syrian army and militia from the north of Kuneitra province.

      Government troops note Israeli aid to a militant group. In particular, the Israeli army repeatedly opened fire from the Golan Heights on the Syrian army just in the area of ​​the alleged Islamist offensive.
    9. PAM
      +4
      2 October 2015 10: 51
      even if they bring in those who are somehow renamed again, it is necessary to bring in specific persons (regardless of their status - be it an official or what kind of thread is the king) consisting of or helping terrorists. And extrude them with the whole world (but tsuko doesn’t succeed). So it turns out that the UN is bankrupt.
    10. +2
      2 October 2015 10: 53
      It's fine ... they started a war, and now it turns out that against those who are not and will not be on the "lists". Wonderful are your works, O Lord ...
      1. 0
        2 October 2015 12: 27
        Quote: marlin1203
        Your deeds are wonderful, Lord ...



        No need to elevate the United States to the rank of the Lord ... States are something worse than Judas ...
    11. +1
      2 October 2015 10: 57
      Quote: Wend
      Oh how cunning. And the United States blocked the inclusion of ISIS in the list of terrorist organizations of the UN. I wonder how much Ban Ki-moon paid the United States?

      Most likely he was just ordered
    12. +2
      2 October 2015 11: 34
      And in Ukraine, without a list? Aw, Guy Munych?
      Pigging with whom is fighting?
      Or until he got permission to talk about it?
      Is everything normal there? democratization of all countries and peoples?
    13. +1
      2 October 2015 11: 39
      Will the right sector be added to the list?
      1. 0
        2 October 2015 12: 28
        Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Will the right sector be added to the list?



        Will make, make ... in the list of the Investigative Committee and the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation ...
    14. 0
      2 October 2015 12: 01
      Quote: Wend
      And the United States blocked the inclusion of ISIS in the list of terrorist organizations of the UN

      Yes, our army, ISIS is on the list of terrorist organizations in Russia. All Pangisrun can roll in ******
    15. 0
      2 October 2015 12: 27
      Ban Ki-moon carries such nonsense that it’s already ridiculous, he was fed with NATO secret-psychotropic substances there or he is a robot! Therefore, there are no eyes ...
  2. +12
    2 October 2015 10: 36
    Something was previously silent about this, apparently it was indifferent for whom the aircraft of the "US coalition" worked: on ISIS, on government troops, on civilians ...
    1. +11
      2 October 2015 10: 38
      Because before, dunes in the desert were bombed, but here they probably began to get where you need to!
      1. +7
        2 October 2015 10: 44
        Quote: 73bor
        Because before, dunes in the desert were bombed, but here they probably began to get where you need to!

        Hit and immediately .... bully
        1. +1
          2 October 2015 11: 14
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Hit and immediately


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          2. +1
            2 October 2015 11: 16
            interesting guys these Arabs ...

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  3. +1
    2 October 2015 10: 37
    Yes, IS has long surpassed al-Qaeda! Of course turn on and destroy!
  4. +1
    2 October 2015 10: 37
    And what prevents these terrorist groups from being added to the UN lists?
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    2. PAM
      +5
      2 October 2015 10: 42
      And what prevents these terrorist groups from being added to the UN lists?
      USA in your own voice!
    3. 0
      2 October 2015 10: 48
      Quote: Alexandr2637
      And what prevents these terrorist groups from being added to the UN lists?
      Well this is a whole procedure. And the "inclusion-exclusion" example of Hezbollah is a solvable matter)
  5. +1
    2 October 2015 10: 39
    So why did you choose the Secretary General of the most important organization? Add the IG to the list of terrorist organizations and approve it. You can’t put pressure on those who are opposed to this, then sit still in the chair, tap the carafe with a pencil and don’t interfere with the rest of you.
  6. +4
    2 October 2015 10: 39
    - And again chatter on chatter. If there is an interest in destroying ISIS, it is very easy to come to an agreement with each other, divide the "zones of influence" and systematically clean up area after area. If, under the pretext of "combating terrorism", one tries to achieve some of its goals, for example, the overthrow of the Syrian government, then, of course, one cannot do without a lot of "rules" and "restrictions".
  7. +4
    2 October 2015 10: 39
    Hooks and hooks - to tighten the coordination process.
    ALL illegal armed groupings are subject to extermination.
    1. +3
      2 October 2015 10: 46
      Quote: A-Sim
      ALL illegal armed groups are subject to extermination.

      the officialdom use a softer formulation - "disarmament". But as for terrorist attacks - I agree with you - to kill. But first it is necessary to comply with the protocol giving the status of terrorists - otherwise what the hell is all this bureaucratic UN stuff needed?)))
      1. +2
        2 October 2015 11: 07
        otherwise why the hell is all this bureaucratic UNovskaya shusherny needed?)))

        Nooo ... You can do everything in parallel (in order to save time): to wet terrorists (only quietly), and at the same time to recognize that they are really terrorists. While the UN recognizes, so the terrorists will end, for new you can begin laughing hi
  8. +5
    2 October 2015 10: 40
    The general secretary has an interesting approach — soak only those whom, say, Russia, and states without a mandate and requests from the head of state who they want. Nafig need such a sub-mattress head of the UN. It is understandable, the representative of the state, completely lying UNDER THE MATTRESS.
  9. +3
    2 October 2015 10: 41
    Winners are not judged. The main thing is that victory is possible. Now the troops are operating as efficiently as possible: the terrorists lost their trump card - they left the underground, lost their shield in the form of civilians, and organized an army. An army that is virtually unprotected from air strikes.
    1. 0
      2 October 2015 10: 43
      Quote: S_Baykala
      Winners are not judged. The main thing is that victory is possible. Now the troops are operating as efficiently as possible: the terrorists lost their trump card - they left the underground, lost their shield in the form of civilians, and organized an army. An army that is virtually unprotected from air strikes.


      - Bravo. It is a pity that neither the Russian Air Force nor the USAAF know about this.
    2. +1
      2 October 2015 11: 09
      Quote: S_Baykala
      the terrorists lost their trump card — they left the underground, lost their shield in the form of civilians, and organized an army.

      Something I did not really understand the logic. What is it about?
  10. +3
    2 October 2015 10: 43
    In the beginning, destroy the militants, and then let them add them to your list, otherwise, they will never be destroyed at all. While the devil gets on the list, he knows how much time will pass, and then the group allegedly self-disintegrates and appears again, but under a new name and that's it, the circle is closed.
    1. 0
      2 October 2015 11: 34
      Quote: sinukvl
      In the beginning, destroy the militants, and then let them add to their list,

      posthumously? laughing
      not bad, not bad ... An interesting precedent will be - we urinate, then we call it a terrorist. Yes, you, dear, you need to throw your resume at the State Department. But what if...?
  11. +4
    2 October 2015 10: 46
    I do not exclude that preparations are underway for the creation of a "legitimate" ISIS government, with which the UN will quickly issue the recognition it needs. and the armed wing will be declared an "opposition" and will even, as it were, begin a struggle with it. And that's all - negotiate with the bearded impostor-thugs how you will fight their "irreconcilable". And there is a territory for this structure - they will tear off a piece of Iraq (still ownerless) ... Hypocrites.
  12. Tor5
    +1
    2 October 2015 10: 47
    It prompts certain thoughts of the states not to single out the igil separately, because it has long outgrown al-Qaeda.
  13. +2
    2 October 2015 10: 48
    "On Wednesday, Lavrov said at a UN Security Council meeting that IS must be recognized as an" independent terrorist organization "with all the ensuing consequences" ...

    And even earlier Churkin suggested creating this list, which Pak is talking about now ... so that the UN clearly outlines the circle of organizations in Syria that are fighting against a legitimate government and are terrorist ...

    Well, right ... Pak bided his time, and now he passed off Churkin's thoughts (that is, Russia) as an actual idea ... And he became white and fluffy in the eyes of the "world community" ...
  14. DHA
    +4
    2 October 2015 10: 49
    The conflict in Syria is proof that the Russian aircraft carriers are needed, look at how hard they put a limited number of aircraft there. And a plus to this group is a couple more escort carriers.
    1. 0
      2 October 2015 10: 56
      There are always several solutions to any problem. The question always rests on the initial and boundary conditions. Those. initial and limits of the function. Although here - at the output we will get a region (set) of solutions. "It's not that simple ..."
    2. +2
      2 October 2015 11: 00
      Quote: DHA
      The conflict in Syria is proof that the Russian aircraft carriers are needed, look at how hard they put a limited number of aircraft there. And a plus to this group is a couple more escort carriers.

      I agree. You can even add a whole list to this. We do not have enough elementary BDKs. But upstairs they do not want to order, then there is no money, then there is no need. hi
  15. +2
    2 October 2015 10: 51
    "The terrorist groups against which the military campaign is being fought should be indicated in the relevant resolutions of the UN Security Council," said the Secretary General

    Yeah, giving them the opportunity to constantly rename themselves, and kill fearlessly further.
    1. 0
      2 October 2015 12: 03
      Quote: Victor-M
      Yeah, giving them the opportunity to constantly rename themselves, and kill fearlessly further.

      I don’t understand one thing at all - all these gangs, moderate opposition and other groups of unknown affiliation - should they submit applications to the UN regarding their identification and location on the territory? So that the UN knows who is who and where are who can and who can not be bombed. And how will our planes find out about this, will they hang tags or tags on them? NOT a war, but some kind of computer game. The UN men, together with the mattresses, as always, want to pervert everything, twist it through the ass, make it impossible to use, and all this is offered to us - it’s served. We need to pretend that we agree with their decision, and to do it ourselves, as expected, is the only enemy, and sort, let them sort after the end of our military operation, if there is something to sort ...
  16. 0
    2 October 2015 10: 52
    But all whom the Americans do not include there - you can not bomb. Especially Russian bombs ...
  17. +3
    2 October 2015 10: 53
    In the meantime, a number of Western countries (including the USA) refuse to do this, claiming that the Islamic State is part of Al-Qaeda


    They know better, they created it, and Al Qaeda also laughing
  18. +1
    2 October 2015 10: 53
    “The terrorist groups against which the military campaign is being fought should be indicated in the relevant resolutions of the UN Security Council,” the Secretary General emphasized at a meeting with Sergei Lavrov.


    It is strange that there is so much talk and panic about the spread of this very ISIS, and as a result, only after the actions of Russia to destroy it, it turns out that it (ISIS) seems to be just a catch on Al Qaeda. Somehow it’s even funny if it weren’t sad. request

    PS I think it is necessary for Lavrov Churkin to be puzzled about this, he is good at getting Guy Moon to set the right path. (this is of course just a joke, Yes ).
  19. +2
    2 October 2015 10: 53
    It turns out interesting! Kurds, EMNIP, do not appear on the UN "terrorist" list! The UN Security Council is obliged to recognize Turkey's aggression against Syria !!! It will be interesting to bomb, or will they cost sanctions? what
    Sometimes it's better to chew than make statements ...
  20. +5
    2 October 2015 10: 54
    And even if you spit on the terrorists, the question arises: What is the matter of the UN pseudo-organization to the internal problems of Syria, which are solved with the help of the Russian Federation at the request of the legitimate president? Who cares who our planes bomb, if this is a legal action? And terrorists, whatever they are called, do not possess the rule of law and must be destroyed
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  22. +4
    2 October 2015 10: 59
    If the United States is so worried about the destruction of ISIS, then I have a proposal, let them take all the ISIS away, give them their shelter, open refugee camps, let them feed, sing and provide a couple more skyscrapers so that they can continue to work ...
  23. +3
    2 October 2015 11: 00
    I do not see the contradictions. If ISIS is part of Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda is a terrorist organization, then by bombing ISIS, we will bomb Al Qaeda.
  24. +3
    2 October 2015 11: 01
    And tomorrow they will change the name and they can no longer be bambit)))))))))
    1. 0
      2 October 2015 11: 20
      Quote: BARMEN628651
      And tomorrow they will change the name and they can no longer be bambit)))))))))

      You got ahead of me smile In fact, the problem is very serious. Already now, sometimes you won’t understand under the magnifying glass which terrorists this detachment belongs to: the Saudi, the Qatari, or the Islamic State?
      So, there will be a stink in the near future about the Russian bombing ... And you go and prove that you bombed ISIS, and not the "peaceful wing" of Al Qaeda request
  25. +3
    2 October 2015 11: 04
    To paraphrase: They need to kill everyone, and the Lord will figure out who ISIS is there and who al-Qaeda.
  26. +2
    2 October 2015 11: 04
    Why didn't Moon care about the lists while the Yankees bombed the whole year?
  27. +1
    2 October 2015 11: 06
    Quote: Wend
    I wonder how much Ban Ki-moon paid the United States?

    So he is already on their salary.
  28. +4
    2 October 2015 11: 06
    The military campaign in Syria should be waged only against groups listed on the UN,
    Of course, of course, let them all go there with posters: "I am not ISIS" or the "So-and-so" gang. So that our pilots can see who is bad without a poster. In general, the posters will somehow be more handy. am am laughing
  29. +3
    2 October 2015 11: 16
    Today I read the newspaper Vedomosti, which has English roots: and so there they turn the entire military operation with a negative position: they distract the attention of Russians, and the impossibility of bombs to solve the problem, and the fall of the economy, etc.
    For once, I am pleased to read such slogans: it means they really hit the terrorists! There are more and more confirmations!
  30. +2
    2 October 2015 11: 17
    To the heap
    "The governments of Turkey, France, Germany, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Great Britain and the United States have issued a joint appeal to Moscow to stop using aircraft in Syria."
    Original news RT in Russian:
    http://russian.rt.com/article/120679

    Here they all opened! Here it is a gang of watering cans covering ISIS and other teraryugs! This is what kind of buoy to terrorist terrorists can only be on their list. Our group is not under the UN mandate, but at the request of the country's president, chosen by the citizens of Syria.
    And in general, to hell with them, let it be "Alkaida", and tell the whole world that practically all the militants from this list organization are in truth in Syria and Iraq, but they collected their certificates (and how PARAShenko fanned them from the UN rostrum and show).
  31. +2
    2 October 2015 11: 17
    You can’t be a little pregnant. So is terrorism. You cannot be a moderate terrorist or malicious. Once crawled out into the light of God - they must be crushed.
  32. +2
    2 October 2015 11: 25
    The Secretary General should have paid attention to the United States, which, without UN sanctions, would bomb sovereign Syria, and many other states, and could be condemned and brought to the tribunal, but as we see it is weak from what follows that serves the interests of the West
  33. 0
    2 October 2015 11: 26
    When we disassemble them there, we’ll get to work tomorrow request
  34. 0
    2 October 2015 11: 32
    Open your eyes, uncle! Russia will not fight as the UN wants. She performs her tasks. Do not like it - take a rifle and go.
    1. +1
      2 October 2015 11: 42
      Quote: propolsky
      Open your eyes, uncle!
  35. 0
    2 October 2015 11: 38
    The Americans want to get their hand-made cutthroats out of attack, here’s
  36. +1
    2 October 2015 11: 41
    not like running around like a skam ass smeared
  37. 0
    2 October 2015 11: 43
    Long overdue!
    Russia is interested in taming the ISIL created by the hands of the Pentagon.
    To the borders of our borders 600 km.
    Harae, for 25 years, the Americans have done business! It's time to clean up the house and the neighbors! )))
  38. 0
    2 October 2015 11: 47
    The military campaign in Syria should be conducted only against the groups listed in the UN, the RIA Novosti reports the statement by the Secretary General of the Organization Ban Ki-moon.

    Yeah, try to fight here if the United States blocks the inclusion in the UN list of all the most notorious s.a.s.r.s.a.s.ev. I do not like how air strikes are applied - ask permission from Damascus and the bomb itself. If they allow. It’s not in vain that new equipment is being transferred there am
  39. +1
    2 October 2015 11: 56
    Quote: Das Boot
    Quote: S_Baykala
    the terrorists lost their trump card — they left the underground, lost their shield in the form of civilians, and organized an army.

    Something I did not really understand the logic. What is it about?


    The point is that with the army in this situation, you can deal as efficiently as possible with the maximum number of terrorists. In other conditions (the presence of terrorists among the civilian, ordinary population), multiplying by zero such an amount would be possible only after several years of work of law enforcement agencies. With attendant problems: death of employees in an attempt to detain, identity verification, death of ordinary citizens as a result of their actions, damage from their actions, etc. If I’m illogical, I apologize.
    1. 0
      2 October 2015 12: 43
      Quote: S_Baykala
      The point is that with the army in this situation, you can deal as efficiently as possible with the maximum number of terrorists.

      Something I don’t remember was that the “maximum number of terrorists” were destroyed by air raids. The numbers were more than modest. And the goal of such aviation is not set, as far as I understand.
      Or is it not about Syria at all?
      1. +1
        2 October 2015 13: 06
        And the goal of such aviation is not set, as far as I understand.

        Such a goal was not really set for the coalition aviation. Their goal was to imitate the "tireless and merciless" struggle against IS.
  40. 0
    2 October 2015 12: 09
    Now it turns out that we are against the UN! Trap again. and the secretary general is fed from the hand of a pind..sow.
  41. 0
    2 October 2015 12: 16
    The UN has become a useless organization lobbying for the ideas of a "world government". We were invited to Syria by the legitimate government. And we help them. In my opinion, no recognition of the warring groups is required. Everything is extremely simple: whoever fights against the regular troops of the SAR is our enemy! And then they began to breed these snot, these can not be
  42. +1
    2 October 2015 12: 53
    I wonder what the Secretary General’s statement is designed for.
    That armed groups will appear at the UN and register as terrorists,
    will the group’s name, payroll, weapons list, source of funding, the number of citizens killed by them be reported?
    After which the UN will decide whether it is possible to include the group in the list for destruction?
    Those who claim that they are fighting Assad, as well as the USA, SA, and Turkey who have declared a source of financing, will automatically be expelled from the terrorists?
    What is it all about, if there is a legally elected president who is obliged to destroy any gangs, especially fighting against government forces that protect the population.
    Insanity grows stronger.
  43. 0
    2 October 2015 12: 58
    -And you can bomb these?
    Yes, bomb them all. Allah will understand.
  44. 0
    2 October 2015 13: 16
    Well, until they decide whether to contribute or not, we will bomb ISIS.
  45. +1
    2 October 2015 14: 14
    Quote: Das Boot
    The numbers were more than modest.


    What are the numbers. At least approximate, at least some. I will answer further.
    1. 0
      2 October 2015 15: 00
      Quote: S_Baykala
      What are the numbers. At least approximate, at least some.

      kindly:
      Turkish Air Force, 25-07-2015 - 35 terrorists
      US Air Force, March 2015 - near Kobani - two machine guns, three cars and an excavator (I doubt that there were three infantry battalions at the construction site)
      Coalition Air Force, night from 3 to 4 October 2014 - 35 terrorists (30 in the vicinity of the city of Shadadi + 5 in the region of Ain al-Arab)
      Australian Air Force, 15-09-2015 - 1 BTR
      etc.
  46. +1
    2 October 2015 14: 24
    Once the United States will not be included in the list of terrorists of the IG as they need them.
  47. +1
    2 October 2015 15: 11
    Quote: Das Boot
    Quote: S_Baykala
    What are the numbers. At least approximate, at least some.

    kindly:
    Turkish Air Force, 25-07-2015 - 35 terrorists
    US Air Force, March 2015 - near Kobani - two machine guns, three cars and an excavator (I doubt that there were three infantry battalions at the construction site)
    Coalition Air Force, night from 3 to 4 October 2014 - 35 terrorists (30 in the vicinity of the city of Shadadi + 5 in the region of Ain al-Arab)
    Australian Air Force, 15-09-2015 - 1 BTR
    etc.


    Um, in general, I even started writing about the actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces. And only their actions and consider. Misunderstanding? It happens.
    All right.

    The attack of the Nord-Ost: 130 dead, 700 wounded - 40 terrorists died;
    Beslan terrorist attack: 333 dead (including 186 children, children !!), 783 wounded - 32 terrorist died;
    Terrorist attack in Grozny (Press House): 14 killed Interior Ministry employees, 36 wounded, 1 civilian who died - 11 terrorists died.
    I don’t even write about material damage, against the background of these figures this is nothing.

    Continue or understand?

    Actions in Syria: any number of dead terrorists (any at all, even 5, even 1000) - 0 (!) Of our guys who died.

    The percentage of attitudes of the dead to the killed militants can be written by anyone. Have not invented it yet. Nothing can be compared with zero. Though googol write. Compared to the above terrorist attacks, this is a super-efficient destruction of the maximum number of terrorists. At the moment. They destroy them there, do not let them in here. There it is much easier to do. Having won there (terrorists), they will come here anyway, only they will come even more.

    Question: Which arithmetic do you like more?
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      2 October 2015 16: 08
      Quote: S_Baykala
      Um, in general, I even started writing about the actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

      Your lengthy comment had nothing to do with the actions of the RF Aerospace Forces. As far as I understand, your philosophizing concerns the fact that preventive bombing in Syria will reduce the number of IS terrorist attacks in Russia by physically destroying their potential instigators and executors. This, in fact, is an open secret and is not a revelation - this was announced by the country's leadership and representatives of the state security agencies. However, I cannot share your confidence that the air strikes inflict fucking "significant" damage on the Islamists. Forgive me, you have an initially incorrect attitude, IMHO: Islam is not IS. Kill the IG - problems will not diminish. Equivoki GDP about "peace-loving religion" is just a diplomatic polity. The Muslims are methodically conquering Lebensraum. Adolf, the Russian Orthodox Church and Ebola are just a misunderstanding laughing
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    2 October 2015 16: 23
    Quote: Das Boot

    As far as I understand, your philosophizing relate to the fact that preventive bombing in Syria will reduce the number of IS terrorist attacks in Russia by physically destroying their potential instigators and executors. This, in fact, is an open secret and is not a revelation - this was announced by the country's leadership and representatives of the state security agencies. However, I cannot share your confidence that the air strikes inflict fucking "significant" damage on the Islamists. Forgive me, you have an initially incorrect attitude, IMHO: Islam is not IS. Kill the IG - problems will not diminish. Equivocal GDP about "peace-loving religion" is just a diplomatic polity. The Muslims are methodically conquering Lebensraum. Adolf, the Russian Orthodox Church and Ebola are just a misunderstanding laughing



    laughing
    I usually try to write in clear words, not philosophizewhat exactly you do:
    preventive bombing what
    potential inspectors Yes
    open secret feel
    Ekivoki recourse
    diplomatic politics belay
    Living Space ????? wassat
    I'm not so educated. I even badly distinguish transcendental and transcendental philosophy ........
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      2 October 2015 16: 58
      Quote: S_Baykala
      I'm not so educated.

      approx.
      be formed.
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    2 October 2015 17: 30
    It is not clear what the difference is in the name of the terrorists, because what matters is what they do. A terrorist, no matter how he is called, must be destroyed. And there’s nothing to look for various tricks, some to destroy and others to regret. Fuck you gentlemen are good. Caught in the field of view of the military, keep your pants tight or self-destruct. angry
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      2 October 2015 18: 50
      Quote: afrikanez
      It is not clear what the difference is in the name of the terrorists, because what matters is what they do.

      bingo!
      if your neighbor hasn’t removed the poop for the dog - definitely on the list of unreliable.
      the classic definition of terror, if not according to Hitchcock, is to do something across. And that’s it.