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The UN said that the Ukrainian government "is ready to admit" a violation of human rights and international law by Ukrainian security forces in the Donbass

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Assistant UN Secretary General Ivan Šimonović delivered a report on the state of human rights in Ukraine. Shimonovich presented his report at the UN Geneva Council. According to Shimonovich, a special UN commission working in the territory of Donbass, it was possible to find out that "both parties to the conflict are involved in crimes against civilians." Shimonovich said that representatives of the UN group revealed shelling of the territories, which led to the death of civilians, both from "the separatist armed groups and from the Ukrainian law enforcement agencies."


The UN said that the Ukrainian government "is ready to admit" a violation of human rights and international law by Ukrainian security forces in the Donbass


RIA News cites a statement by the UN Assistant Secretary General:
The interlocutors in the government (Ukraine), for the most part, welcomed the new approach and expressed their readiness to acknowledge that a number of cases of violations of human rights and international humanitarian law were committed by their forces and voluntary battalions.


Somewhat troubling wording: expressed willingness to admit. From "expressed readiness" to "recognized" in the case of the Ukrainian government may be a whole gulf.

It should be noted that the UN monitoring group, which studies questions concerning which side is firing in the Donbass, has been working only since mid-September.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 29 September 2015 13: 31 New
    +15
    a number of cases of violations of human rights and international humanitarian law were committed by their forces and volunteer battalions.

    A number of cases, this was a couple of times shmalnuli wrong way and a bucket of potatoes from my grandmother was taken? request
    1. SS68SS
      SS68SS 29 September 2015 13: 34 New
      +24
      The interlocutors in the government (Ukraine), for the most part, welcomed the new approach and expressed their readiness to acknowledge that a number of cases of violations of human rights and international humanitarian law were committed by their forces and voluntary battalions.


      False creatures, and "volunteer battalions" are not yours or what? They dumped all the crap in a heap, armed them, and then shouted: "This is not all, it’s volunteer battalions .... and we are soft and fluffy ..."
      Squads are corrupt, European whores ... No shame or conscience .... Tfu
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 29 September 2015 13: 40 New
        +2
        Rights violation .....
      2. Persistent
        Persistent 29 September 2015 17: 15 New
        +1
        They say that on the night of September 28, the head physician of the Kiev insane asylum slowly traveled around the city, counting fellow citizens marching under the banners of the right sector wassat , and cried, cried ...
    2. Temples
      Temples 29 September 2015 13: 39 New
      +5
      They won’t recognize anything!
      Not for that they started all this, that would now repent!
      Perhaps those who will replace Poroshenko and Company will recognize these violations, but there are also big doubts.
      1. Sterlya
        Sterlya 29 September 2015 13: 44 New
        +1
        Piglet learns from its patrons. The hand is felt. with an eternal hangover such an even not very tricky move would not have come up with. eh Piglet piglet, how I feel sorry for you, together with Yaytsenyuh, Turchinovoy gosloshlepom, Avakov and how much scum you have there
    3. vodolaz
      vodolaz 29 September 2015 13: 53 New
      +2
      I do not believe them.
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 29 September 2015 14: 06 New
        +9
        No, this is a breakthrough, after a year and a half they already want something, but when they admit, I’m afraid that there will be scorched earth.
    4. armageddon
      armageddon 29 September 2015 14: 06 New
      +1
      Hmm ... Ready to admit ... Like girls ... After the seventh abortion ... !!!
      1. voronbel53
        voronbel53 29 September 2015 14: 40 New
        0
        Quote: Armagedon
        Hmm ... Ready to admit ... Like girls ... After the seventh abortion ... !!!

        We are ready to admit that it’s not a virgin, but that a prostitute is only after being charged. And who are the judges ?!
      2. Basarev
        Basarev 29 September 2015 14: 49 New
        +1
        It’s only shit that they are trying to drag the militias. I believe that Kiev expresses its readiness to admit precisely for the sake of these words about the violation of the rights by militias.
  2. Andrea
    Andrea 29 September 2015 13: 35 New
    +6

    Somewhat troubling wording: expressed willingness to admit. From "expressed readiness" to "recognized" in the case of the Ukrainian government may be a whole gulf.
    And recognition itself will not give anything. Kiev admits anything, if only they would give a denyuzhku.
    That would be judged by someone ... here, I think there will be problems.
    1. Penetrator
      Penetrator 29 September 2015 13: 46 New
      +6
      Quote: Andrea
      That would be judged by someone ... here, I think there will be problems

      There will be no problems. They will convict a dozen or two of the rank and file officers of the Armed Forces, and a couple of battalion commanders of battalions and a few dozen of them repaired. Well, who is particularly exposed in war crimes or just fell under the distribution of the military prosecutor. And that’s it. Do you think that, for example, who gave the order to start the ATO, Turchinov will be found guilty? Yeah, right now .. But you can blow the whole world with ears that Ukraine is a "democratic and legal state."
      1. Andrea
        Andrea 29 September 2015 14: 32 New
        +2
        Quote Penetrator
        Do you think that, for example, who gave the order to start the ATO, Turchinov will be found guilty?
        This is the problem ... even if Russia or another person, even not interested, lodges the main criminals with an international court, they will not consider the case.
        It will be very interesting to hear the motive of refusal.
        Most likely it will be like this: "Poroshenko with Turchinov-sons of bitches, but these are our sons of bitches"
  3. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 29 September 2015 13: 37 New
    +10
    Some kind of provocative wording. They suggest that the "separatist groups" also recognize partial violations, and then catch on to it and recognize terrorists ?! All this is muddy.
    1. Styx
      Styx 29 September 2015 13: 47 New
      +7
      Ah, and the militia’s amnesty, as a point of the Minsk protocols, falls out of them because of the uselessness with this approach ... You are (not) ours smart-ass.
      1. Rader
        Rader 29 September 2015 16: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: Styx
        Ah, and the militia’s amnesty, as a point of the Minsk protocols, falls out of them because of the uselessness with this approach ... You are (not) ours smart-ass.

        With this approach, which is now being demonstrated by the Ukrainian authorities, all points of the Minsk agreements can be canceled as unnecessary. Already, Poraschenko and co. ignore most of the agreements, and the rest are fulfilled in their "free interpretation"
  4. V.ic
    V.ic 29 September 2015 13: 38 New
    +4
    Well, of course, the ukronatsiks will be found only partially guilty, and only in a number of episodes, because all the State Department mongrel know that "Putin is to blame."
  5. prabiz
    prabiz 29 September 2015 13: 40 New
    +1
    Another cheap jump and jump! negative
  6. smith7
    smith7 29 September 2015 13: 41 New
    +1
    The world community is not ready to accept (understand, forgive, justify, etc.) the position of Russia, but there is hope ... so far. If you do not take urgent measures to resolve the conflicts in Syria and the Donbass, then wait for trouble. There is no time to persuade the world community (represented by the UN, including). It is more realistic to simply agree on at least the passage of transports with humanitarian aid, military equipment, and personnel. There are many chances that this will have to be bought for money. Everybody loves money (free gas, free gas pipeline, duty-free trade ...).
  7. Comrade Bender
    Comrade Bender 29 September 2015 13: 42 New
    +2
    Is the UN ready to admit ukrovermacht violations as crimes?
  8. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 29 September 2015 13: 42 New
    +20
    Answer for everything ... and hiding is useless! Give me time, we all remember ...
    1. arane
      arane 29 September 2015 14: 28 New
      +8
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Answer for everything ... and hiding is useless! Give me time, we all remember ...


      Meehan, this terrible picture does not cause fear, it causes hatred, righteous hatred!
      Laughing at her over the censor ......
      I don’t know how to explain. Our ancestors in 42 would not laugh at such a picture, even if it was a photo from Berlin ...
      It seems that in order to communicate with the visiting people we need xnobiologists, as in the rest with the EU!
      1. JACTUS RECTUS
        JACTUS RECTUS 29 September 2015 15: 12 New
        +1
        That's for sure. Just read ukrov komenty, just horror.
  9. chikenous59
    chikenous59 29 September 2015 13: 43 New
    +2
    I doubt that the militias have never fought civilians in the course of fighting; anything happens in a war. Just how to punish them? Sanctions to introduce? Duck then Ukrainians without coal and everything else will bend more strongly. Is someone going to jail? Go find them in the forest. But the official who gave the order to shoot at home from his office is easier to pull out and "bathe.
  10. ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 29 September 2015 13: 44 New
    0
    They never admit, admit, it means to admit their lies constantly, they are not used to doing this on the outskirts.
  11. gelezo47
    gelezo47 29 September 2015 13: 46 New
    +2
    Again, muddy formulations. Meanwhile, Svidomo shelling cities and towns of Donbass. To which the militia is forbidden to answer ... request
  12. udincev
    udincev 29 September 2015 13: 53 New
    +3
    “Both parties to the conflict are involved in crimes against civilians”
    There is such an expression: see the root. If the missions and commissions were guided by it, one would not have to sing about two sides. The ears are definitely from the distant overseas side stick out. And evidence in bulk.
  13. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 29 September 2015 13: 58 New
    0
    the Ukrainian government is “ready to admit” a violation of human rights ...

    The very formulation of the question kills on the spot and this is at the UN. Cheap trick. Parashenko admits anything, if only they would give a little money to his pocket, and then on the drum.
  14. veksha50
    veksha50 29 September 2015 14: 01 New
    +2
    “The wording is somewhat alarming: they expressed their readiness to admit” ...

    That's right, the phrase is worded that actions that violate human rights were allowed, at both sides.

    This they are ready to admit, however, in further development: on the part of the Armed Forces, these were isolated cases, but on the part of the separatists, around the clock and every day ...

    Here is an option they recognize ...
  15. ssn18
    ssn18 29 September 2015 14: 04 New
    +1
    Ukropiteki star like breathing. Although they are not used to it, the Black Sea was dug up.
  16. demo
    demo 29 September 2015 14: 15 New
    +1
    Somewhat troubling wording: expressed willingness to admit. From "expressed readiness" to "recognized" in the case of the Ukrainian government may be a whole gulf.

    Moreover, it is insurmountable.
  17. SCHWERIN
    SCHWERIN 29 September 2015 14: 23 New
    +2
    This is what the violation of human rights ends with (Leningrad January 5, 46)
    List of executed by hanging:


    1. Major General Remlinger Heinrich, born in 1882, in Poppenweiler. Commandant of Pskov in 1943-1944.

    2. Captain Shtrufing Karl, born in 1912. In the city of Rostock, commander of 2 companies of 2 battalions of "special purpose" 21 air field division.

    3. Oberfeldfebel Engel Fritz was born in 1915 in the city of Hera, platoon commander of the 2nd company of the 2nd battalion of "special purpose" of the 21st air field division.

    4. Oberfeldfebel Böhm Ernst was born in 1911. In the city of Oshweileben, the platoon commander of the 1st “special purpose” battalion of 21 airfield divisions.

    5. Lieutenant Sonnenfeld Edward was born in 1911 in the city of Hanover, a sapper, commander of a special engineering group 322 infantry regiment.

    6. The soldier Yanike Gergard was born in 1921. In the Kappe area, 2 companies, 2 “special purpose” battalions of 21 airfield divisions.

    7. Soldier Gerer Erwin Ernst was born in 1912, 2 companies, 2 battalions of "special purpose" 21 airfield divisions.

    8. Overfreight Scotka Erwin was born in 1919, 2 companies, 2 battalions of "special purpose" 21 air field divisions.
    Please note - "special purpose" (Azov?)
    1. ssn18
      ssn18 29 September 2015 19: 55 New
      +1
      To this list, yes addition would be with Bendera ....
  18. SCHWERIN
    SCHWERIN 29 September 2015 14: 30 New
    0
    But in the dynamics. This is Kalinin Square, the cinema "Giant"
    https://youtu.be/uYxJ2cxKjW0
    We are kind for the time being .....
    And we give money and gas ....
  19. Riv
    Riv 29 September 2015 14: 38 New
    0
    I was interested in this "violation of international law." As far as I remember, there was only one thing: the downed Boeing. REALLY ???
  20. KARAGACH
    KARAGACH 29 September 2015 14: 46 New
    0
    The UN cannot continue to not respond to the humanitarian situation in the Donbass, but it’s not ready to blame the dill, so they put it in the phrase “both sides of the conflict are involved,” and the junta is ready to admit it, since in their worst case “heads will fly” only in the Moscow Region and the General Staff, and they themselves will remain outside the tribunal. But it’s not yet evening, as they say.
  21. roskot
    roskot 29 September 2015 15: 07 New
    +1
    it was found out that "both parties to the conflict were involved in crimes against civilians."

    I found out for a long time and found out. Militias fired on themselves, and at the same time their homes and relatives.
  22. KRIG55
    KRIG55 29 September 2015 15: 36 New
    +3
    Pay attention - the second year the war is on, civilians are being killed, and only in September the UN group will observe which side the shelling is on. Nekilo. in the tenth year of the war they will publish a report ...
  23. gladcu2
    gladcu2 29 September 2015 17: 15 New
    0
    The very readiness to recognize is already recognition.

    The question is, do we need it?

    And what will change in essence?
  24. vobels
    vobels 29 September 2015 17: 59 New
    0
    ".. The interlocutors in the government (of Ukraine), for the most part, welcomed the new approach and also expressed their readiness to recognize ...". It is interesting to know what kind of interlocutors? And most likely, upon returning home, these interlocutors are given slaps for such greetings.
  25. samarin1969
    samarin1969 29 September 2015 18: 02 New
    +1
    And whom are we listening to? .. "In May 2000, he (I. Šimonović) was appointed representative of the Croatian government in the International Court of Justice on the trial of accusing the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia of genocide." ... a notorious fascist specialist in excuses ..... "let go" at the UN.
  26. Alcoholic
    Alcoholic 29 September 2015 18: 19 New
    0
    Understand, ask, enter a position.
    When the Korean is not the UN, but rabble.
    Not deciding anything.
  27. vfqjh
    vfqjh 29 September 2015 18: 46 New
    0
    they also expressed their readiness to admit that a number of cases of violations of human rights and international humanitarian law were committed by their forces and volunteer battalions.
    To say this one thing, but how can they justify themselves in front of mothers who have lost their children, old people, orphans? They must be judged by the whole world !!!
  28. ssn18
    ssn18 29 September 2015 20: 00 New
    0
    The axis, another camouflaged dill, minus, well, then it’s absolutely violet to their minuses. laughing
  29. mamont5
    mamont5 30 September 2015 07: 19 New
    0
    Quote: Vladimirets
    a number of cases of violations of human rights and international humanitarian law were committed by their forces and volunteer battalions.

    A number of cases, this was a couple of times shmalnuli wrong way and a bucket of potatoes from my grandmother was taken? request

    They are now writing off everything to the “volunteers” and the National Guard, when in most cases shelling is carried out, namely, by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, as heavy weapons only they have.
  30. Taygerus
    Taygerus 30 September 2015 12: 00 New
    0
    the killing of defenseless old people, women and children, as well as the torture and bullying of these people cannot be covered up, they will answer for everything before the whole world in due time, but I would like to quickly bring to justice this Nazi pack and their curators if they weren’t okay, trash plague