The UN said that the Ukrainian government is "ready to admit" a violation of human rights and international law by Ukrainian security forces in the Donbass

Assistant UN Secretary General Ivan Šimonović delivered a report on the state of human rights in Ukraine. Shimonovich presented his report at the UN Geneva Council. According to Shimonovich, a special UN commission working in the territory of Donbass, it was possible to find out that "both parties to the conflict are involved in crimes against civilians." Shimonovich said that representatives of the UN group revealed shelling of the territories, which led to the death of civilians, both from "the separatist armed groups and from the Ukrainian law enforcement agencies."

RIA News cites a statement by the UN Assistant Secretary General:

The interlocutors in the government (Ukraine), for the most part, welcomed the new approach and expressed their readiness to acknowledge that a number of cases of violations of human rights and international humanitarian law were committed by their forces and voluntary battalions.

Somewhat troubling wording: expressed willingness to admit. From "expressed readiness" to "recognized" in the case of the Ukrainian government may be a whole gulf.

It should be noted that the UN monitoring group, which studies questions concerning which side is firing in the Donbass, has been working only since mid-September.

Comments

[Vladimirets]

a number of cases of violations of human rights and international humanitarian law were committed by their forces and volunteer battalions.

A number of cases, this was a couple of times shmalnuli wrong way and a bucket of potatoes from my grandmother was taken?

[SS68SS]

The interlocutors in the government (Ukraine), for the most part, welcomed the new approach and expressed their readiness to acknowledge that a number of cases of violations of human rights and international humanitarian law were committed by their forces and voluntary battalions.

Lying creatures, and the "volunteer battalions" are not yours or what? They knocked down all the crap, armed them, and then they shout: "This is not in vain, these are volunteer battalions .... and we are soft and fluffy ..."
Squads are corrupt, European whores ... No shame or conscience .... Tfu

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Rights violation .....

[Persistent]

They say that on the night of September 28, the head physician of the Kiev insane asylum slowly traveled around the city, counting fellow citizens marching under the banners of the right sector , and cried, cried ...

[Temples]

They won’t recognize anything!
Not for that they started all this, that would now repent!
Perhaps those who will replace Poroshenko and Company will admit these violations, but even then there are big doubts.

[Sterlya]

Piglet learns from its patrons. The hand is felt. with an eternal hangover such an even not very tricky move would not have come up with. eh Piglet piglet, how I feel sorry for you, together with Yaytsenyuh, Turchinovoy gosloshlepom, Avakov and how much scum you have there

[vodolaz]

I do not believe them.

[vovanpain]

No, this is a breakthrough, after a year and a half they already want something, but when they admit, I’m afraid that there will be scorched earth.

[armageddon]

Hmm ... Ready to admit ... Like girls ... After the seventh abortion ... !!!

[voronbel53]

Quote: Armagedon

Hmm ... Ready to admit ... Like girls ... After the seventh abortion ... !!!

We are ready to admit that it’s not a virgin, but that a prostitute is only after being charged. And who are the judges ?!

[Basarev]

It’s only shit that they are trying to drag the militias. I believe that Kiev expresses its readiness to admit precisely for the sake of these words about the violation of the rights by militias.

[Andrea]

Somewhat troubling wording: expressed willingness to admit. From "expressed readiness" to "recognized" in the case of the Ukrainian government may be a whole gulf.

And recognition itself will not give anything. Kiev admits anything, if only they would give a denyuzhku.
That would be judged by someone ... here, I think there will be problems.

[Penetrator]

Quote: Andrea

That would be judged by someone ... here, I think there will be problems

There will be no problem. A dozen or two of the rank and file and junior officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be condemned, as well as a couple of volunteer battalion commanders and several dozen of them repaired. Well, who is especially strongly lit in war crimes or just fell under the distribution of the military prosecutor's office. And that's all. Do you think that, for example, who gave the order to start the ATO, Turchinov will be found guilty? Yeah, shchaz .. But you can blow in the ears of the whole world that Ukraine is a "democratic and legal state."

[Andrea]

Quote Penetrator
Do you think that, for example, who gave the order to start the ATO, Turchinov will be found guilty?

This is the problem ... even if Russia or another person, even not interested, lodges the main criminals with an international court, they will not consider the case.
It will be very interesting to hear the motive of refusal.
Most likely it will be like this: "Poroshenko and Turchinov are sons of bitches, but these are our sons of bitches."

[B.T.V.]

Some kind of provocative wording. They suggest that "separatist formations" also recognize partial violations, and then cling to it and recognize them as terrorists ?! All this is muddy.

[Styx]

Ah, and the militia’s amnesty, as a point of the Minsk protocols, falls out of them because of the uselessness with this approach ... You are (not) ours smart-ass.

[Rader]

Quote: Styx

Ah, and the militia’s amnesty, as a point of the Minsk protocols, falls out of them because of the uselessness with this approach ... You are (not) ours smart-ass.

With this approach, which is now being demonstrated by the Ukrainian authorities, it is possible to cancel all clauses of the Minsk agreements, as unnecessary. Already now Porashenko and co. ignore most of the agreements, and carry out the rest in their "free interpretation"

[V.ic]

Well, naturally, the Ukronatsiki will be found only partially guilty, and only on a number of episodes, for all the State Department mongrels know that "it is Putin's fault."

[prabiz]

Another cheap jump and jump!

[smith7]

The world community is not ready to accept (understand, forgive, justify, etc.) the position of Russia, but there is hope ... so far. If you do not take urgent measures to resolve the conflicts in Syria and the Donbass, then wait for trouble. There is no time to persuade the world community (represented by the UN, including). It is more realistic to simply agree on at least the passage of transports with humanitarian aid, military equipment, and personnel. There are many chances that this will have to be bought for money. Everybody loves money (free gas, free gas pipeline, duty-free trade ...).

[Comrade Bender]

Is the UN ready to admit ukrovermacht violations as crimes?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Answer for everything ... and hiding is useless! Give me time, we all remember ...

[arane]

Quote: MIKHAN

Answer for everything ... and hiding is useless! Give me time, we all remember ...

Meehan, this terrible picture does not cause fear, it causes hatred, righteous hatred!
Laughing at her over the censor ......
I don’t know how to explain. Our ancestors in 42 would not laugh at such a picture, even if it was a photo from Berlin ...
It seems that in order to communicate with the visiting people we need xnobiologists, as in the rest with the EU!

[JACTUS RECTUS]

That's for sure. Just read ukrov komenty, just horror.

[chikenous59]

I doubt that the militiamen never hit civilians during the fighting - anything can happen in war. Just how to punish them? Introduce sanctions? Duck then Ukrainians without coal and everything else will bend more. To put someone in jail? Go find them in the forest. But the official who gave the order to shoot at houses from his office is easier to pull out and "otkh.chit with a truncheon"

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

They never admit, admit, it means to admit their lies constantly, they are not used to doing this on the outskirts.

[gelezo47]

Again, muddy formulations. Meanwhile, Svidomo shelling cities and towns of Donbass. To which the militia is forbidden to answer ...

[udincev]

“Both parties to the conflict are involved in crimes against civilians”

There is such an expression: see the root. If the missions and commissions were guided by it, one would not have to sing about two sides. The ears are definitely from the distant overseas side stick out. And evidence in bulk.

[Sergey-72]

the Ukrainian government is "ready to admit" the violation of human rights ...

The very formulation of the question kills on the spot and this is at the UN. Cheap trick. Parashenko admits anything, if only they would give a little money to his pocket, and then on the drum.

[veksha50]

"The wording is somewhat alarming: they expressed their readiness to admit" ...

That's right, the phrase is worded that actions that violate human rights were allowed, at both sides...

This they are ready to admit, however, in further development: on the part of the Armed Forces, these were isolated cases, but on the part of the separatists, around the clock and every day ...

Here is an option they recognize ...

[ssn18]

Ukropiteki star like breathing. Although they are not used to it, the Black Sea was dug up.

[demo]

Somewhat troubling wording: expressed willingness to admit. From "expressed readiness" to "recognized" in the case of the Ukrainian government may be a whole gulf.

Moreover, it is insurmountable.

[SCHWERIN]

This is what the violation of human rights ends with (Leningrad January 5, 46)
List of executed by hanging:


1. Major General Remlinger Heinrich, born in 1882, in Poppenweiler. Commandant of Pskov in 1943-1944.

2. Captain Shtrufing Karl, born in 1912. In the city of Rostock, commander of 2 companies of 2 battalions of "special purpose" 21 air field division.

3. Oberfeldfebel Engel Fritz was born in 1915 in the city of Hera, platoon commander of the 2nd company of the 2nd battalion of "special purpose" of the 21st air field division.

4. Oberfeldfebel Böhm Ernst was born in 1911. In the city of Oshweileben, the platoon commander of the 1st “special purpose” battalion of 21 airfield divisions.

5. Lieutenant Sonnenfeld Edward was born in 1911 in the city of Hanover, a sapper, commander of a special engineering group 322 infantry regiment.

6. The soldier Yanike Gergard was born in 1921. In the Kappe area, 2 companies, 2 “special purpose” battalions of 21 airfield divisions.

7. Soldier Gerer Erwin Ernst was born in 1912, 2 companies, 2 battalions of "special purpose" 21 airfield divisions.

8. Overfreight Scotka Erwin was born in 1919, 2 companies, 2 battalions of "special purpose" 21 air field divisions.
Pay attention - "special purpose" (Azov?)

[ssn18]

To this list, yes addition would be with Bendera ....

[SCHWERIN]

But in dynamics. This is Kalinin Square, the Gigant cinema
https://youtu.be/uYxJ2cxKjW0
We are kind for the time being .....
And we give money and gas ....

[Riv]

I was interested in this "violation of international law." As far as I remember, there was only one thing: the downed Boeing. REALLY ???

[KARAGACH]

The UN cannot continue to respond to the humanitarian situation in Donbass, but it is not yet ready to blame the dill, which is why they expressed themselves with the phrase "both sides of the conflict are involved", and the junta is ready to admit this, since in the worst case for them, "heads will fly" only in the Ministry of Defense and General Staff, and they themselves will remain outside the tribunal. But it's not evening yet, as they say.

[roskot]

it was found out that "both parties to the conflict were involved in crimes against civilians."

I found out for a long time and found out. Militias fired on themselves, and at the same time their homes and relatives.

[KRIG55]

Pay attention - the second year the war is on, civilians are being killed, and only in September the UN group will observe which side the shelling is on. Nekilo. in the tenth year of the war they will publish a report ...

[gladcu2]

The very readiness to recognize is already recognition.

The question is, do we need it?

And what will change in essence?

[vobels]

".. The interlocutors in the (Ukrainian) government, for the most part, welcomed the new approach and expressed their readiness to recognize ...". It is interesting to know what kind of interlocutors? And most likely, upon returning home, these interlocutors are given slaps for such greetings.

[samarin1969]

And who are we listening to? .. "In May 2000, he (I. Shimonovic) was appointed representative of the Croatian government at the International Court of Justice at the trial on the charge of genocide against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia." ... a notable fascist specialist in excuses ... "whoever is not allowed to enter" the UN.

[Alcoholic]

Understand, ask, enter a position.
When the Korean is not the UN, but rabble.
Not deciding anything.

[vfqjh]

they also expressed their readiness to admit that a number of cases of violations of human rights and international humanitarian law were committed by their forces and volunteer battalions.
To say this one thing, but how can they justify themselves in front of mothers who have lost their children, old people, orphans? They must be judged by the whole world !!!

[ssn18]

The axis, another camouflaged dill, minus, well, then it’s absolutely violet to their minuses.

[mamont5]

Quote: Vladimirets

a number of cases of violations of human rights and international humanitarian law were committed by their forces and volunteer battalions.

A number of cases, this was a couple of times shmalnuli wrong way and a bucket of potatoes from my grandmother was taken?

Now they will blame everything on "volunteers" and national gates, when in most cases, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are carrying out shelling. only they have heavy weapons.

[Taygerus]

the killing of defenseless old people, women and children, as well as the torture and bullying of these people cannot be covered up, they will answer for everything before the whole world in due time, but I would like to quickly bring to justice this Nazi pack and their curators if they weren’t okay, trash plague