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Mass media: The West is tired of Ukraine and can leave it alone with its problems

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In Berlin, they believe that the Ukrainian authorities do not justify the assistance that they receive from the West, and have done little to promote reforms, Deutsche Welle (DW) writes. Article leads RIA News.




“We see that Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk are slipping into behavior when the main thing is getting benefits from a particular decision,” a source in the German parliament told the publication. “Other Ukrainian politicians, such as Oleg Lyashko and Yulia Tymoshenko, also caused a great disappointment.”

According to DW, “European deputies, who arrived in Kiev in September to assess the situation with reforms, at the final press conference on September 25 noted that Brussels is not too impressed with the achievements of Kiev and would like to see real results.”

European Commissioner Vera Yurova noted, for example, that "Ukraine will not have a second chance to carry out important reforms." Financial assistance to the country will depend on the success of the reforms.

"The bitter pill for Kiev is the compromise peace plan proposed by French diplomat Pierre Morel," writes DW and explains that this plan implies the adoption by the Rada of a separate law "allowing the holding of elections in the territories not controlled by Ukraine." And as the source said, Europe intends to adhere to the “Morel plan”.

“Kiev accepted this proposal with hostility, but in the end it can hardly be refused,” said French international security expert Mathieu Buleg. He believes that the West has lately "appeared more serious problems: the struggle against the" Islamic state ", the situation in Syria and the migration crisis." And Western politicians hope to involve Russia in solving these problems. In addition, there was talk about the possibility of lifting the sanctions.

“Most politicians in Ukraine feel that Western partners have abandoned them to the mercy of fate,” notes the Tagesspiegel newspaper.

At the same time, according to the publication, "Kiev does not attach much importance to the real assistance from Brussels."

“The European Union has put a lot of effort into ensuring that Kiev and Moscow reach a gas agreement before the start of the heating season, and, in particular, provided Ukraine with more than 500 million euros. In Ukraine, they don’t feel gratitude, ”the newspaper writes and cites the words of a representative of the Ukrainian Cabinet who told the publication:“ Why should we be grateful for this agreement? In the end, Russia is also profitable to supply gas to Kiev. ”
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 28 September 2015 09: 10 New
    +26
    When they build the Nord Stream 2, then they will definitely forget about the Outskirts. The European shaft will be built from Ukrainians fleeing to Europe.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 28 September 2015 09: 18 New
      +20
      The West is tired of Ukraine and may leave it alone with its problems

      And Russia was striving for this .... TO ONE FOR ONE AND FOR THE CLOSED DENY DOORS! angry
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 28 September 2015 09: 22 New
        +6
        Moreover, it is worth watching them closely
        No matter how they arrange something like a downed Boeing to attract attention to themselves
        1. avg
          avg 28 September 2015 09: 45 New
          +20
          “Why should we be grateful for this agreement?

          Europe still has a lot to learn about dill. For example, the fact that the gratitude of gossip is absent completely request Not only do the more good they do, the more boorish antics you get in return.
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 28 September 2015 09: 55 New
            +8
            Quote: avg
            Not only do the more good they do, the more boorish antics you get in return.

            "They gave some miserable 500 lemons! Why didn’t they pay for gas for Ukraine completely? We are defending Europe from Russian aggression! Russia does not want to lose a client! We forced her to make concessions!" (and in general, where did you drink good?)
            That's about what they say in BP. laughing
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 28 September 2015 10: 22 New
              +10
              Well, why only Europe? And the Americans gave Dill to Gas (see the news archive) about a month ago. But what’s interesting, Ukrainians will not receive money in any case, they will go directly to Gazprom’s accounts. Here is the reason for the howl.
            2. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 28 September 2015 12: 48 New
              0
              Quote: Egoza
              "They gave some miserable 500 lemons!

              And they weren’t given))) This money will come to Russia, bypassing Ukraine, but becoming a Ukrainian debt to Brussels. For this reason, in dill and do not feel gratitude. Tyrot is not what)))
            3. star44
              star44 28 September 2015 16: 08 New
              +1
              The fact of the matter is that they did NOT give ANYTHING. The European Union has agreed with Russia on supplies, prices. Ukraine was confronted with the fact and invited ONLY to sign the papers. Including and trouble-free transit through its territory. And the money for this will go from Geyropa directly to the Russian Federation without a “check-in” in the non-stop ... Therefore, there will be no howling that they will not cut ...
          2. Volzhanin
            Volzhanin 28 September 2015 10: 58 New
            +2
            With great pleasure, the Americans will arrange on the outskirts of the second Chernobyl. Having lost influence on the outskirts, they will decide: "So do not get to anyone, Russian outskirts!".
            And they will create universal European atomic fun with the hands of zhidokhokhlov!
        2. veksha50
          veksha50 28 September 2015 09: 48 New
          +4
          Quote: bulvas
          No matter how they arrange something like a downed Boeing to attract attention to themselves



          So soon the Boeings will die out, like the Ukrainian Air Force ... How pterodactyls ...
        3. Altona
          Altona 28 September 2015 09: 51 New
          +4
          Quote: bulvas
          Moreover, it is worth watching them closely

          -------------------
          Khokhlov generally does not need to pay attention, they are like cats, as soon as they hear the words "brotherly people", "European people" they start yelling and demanding a little hawk ... They need to be tougher with them, it’s only good for them ... Especially with Khokhlov-bosses, this is the mentality of a peasant who came to the city and became the boss ... Such people immediately begin to inflate from their own greatness and their conceit begins to swell disproportionately ...
          1. SteelRatTV
            SteelRatTV 28 September 2015 10: 28 New
            0
            Khokhlov generally does not need to pay attention, they are like cats, as soon as they hear the words "brotherly people", "European people" they start yelling and demanding a little hawk ...
            So there’s more benefit from the cat - even purrs pleasantly (albeit from sneaky considerations) laughing
          2. wef
            wef 28 September 2015 12: 45 New
            +2
            Khokhlov generally does not need to pay attention, they are like cats, as soon as they hear the words "brotherly people", "European people" they start yelling and demanding a hawk.

            Why should cats be offended by such a comparison? From them, cats, more benefit. Cats are the cutest animal. And they also benefit - for example, they catch mice. And Ukrainians do not catch mice, they only yell.
        4. Petrik66
          Petrik66 28 September 2015 12: 39 New
          -3
          All airlines in the world after a downed Boeing do not fly over Hohland. Well, to us, thank God forbidden. so, you need to come up with something else. it’s better to jerk something and blame Putin personally.
        5. Petrik66
          Petrik66 28 September 2015 12: 39 New
          0
          All airlines in the world after a downed Boeing do not fly over Hohland. Well, to us, thank God forbidden. so, you need to come up with something else. it’s better to jerk something and blame Putin personally.
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      3. WKS
        WKS 28 September 2015 09: 27 New
        +14
        In this regard, one thought of a Ukrainian political scientist is interesting. "For the United States, Ukraine needs Russia hostile or none. For Russia, Ukraine needs Russia friendly or none. The compromise between Russia and the United States is obvious and suggests itself based on these needs."
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 28 September 2015 09: 47 New
          +4
          Quote: wks
          no. The compromise between Russia and the USA is obvious


          Only I do not catch up ... but no - who needs it ???
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 28 September 2015 10: 16 New
            +6
            Quote: veksha50
            Only I do not catch up ... but no - who needs it ???


            none - means Ukraine as part of another state, all or in parts

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      4. Vend
        Vend 28 September 2015 09: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: MIKHAN
        The West is tired of Ukraine and may leave it alone with its problems

        And Russia was striving for this .... TO ONE FOR ONE AND FOR THE CLOSED DENY DOORS! angry

        Yes, it's high time. They created a cesspool from Ukraine, now let them rake themselves.
      5. spiriolla-45
        spiriolla-45 28 September 2015 10: 04 New
        +1
        Exactly, behind closed doors, but with the lights off. This is called arranging "dark." From army experience I’ll say that many of these instructed the true path.
      6. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 28 September 2015 11: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: MIKHAN
        And Russia was striving for this .... TO ONE FOR ONE AND FOR THE CLOSED DENY DOORS!
        The USA hasn’t gone anywhere, but they’re the main violin there, alas
        1. Mik-51
          Mik-51 28 September 2015 13: 29 New
          0
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          Quote: MIKHAN
          And Russia was striving for this .... TO ONE FOR ONE AND FOR THE CLOSED DENY DOORS!
          The USA hasn’t gone anywhere, but they’re the main violin there, alas



          Do you really think that pragmatic Americans will endlessly pour money into this black hole?
          To contain about 40 million people - this is not even the coulters pull.
    2. Finches
      Finches 28 September 2015 09: 23 New
      +14
      The Ukrainian junta never had high hopes for Brussels, even though it tried to lick by signing the association! The junta was delivered from Washington, the IMF pro-American organization gives money, as a result of this Poroshenko and Co. will look into the mouths of children from the White House and from Capitol Hill!
      But beyond the puddle for Ukrainians and problems began! The curator of the Reich Commissioner Ukraine project, Nuland, was paralyzed (there is still God in heaven), plus the pre-election race begins in the United States and there is no time for half-armed Ukrainian lads! Syria again ... Therefore, they begin to merge them in a little Europe, and Europe, this American hemorrhoids, the same fuck did not give up!
    3. marlin1203
      marlin1203 28 September 2015 09: 31 New
      +4
      Naive Europeans! They don’t know our army classics “Everywhere you kiss - everywhere ... oops!”, And yet it is relevant as never before to the modern Ukrainian scenario.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 28 September 2015 09: 43 New
        +1
        “We see that Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk are slipping into behavior when the main thing is getting benefits from a particular decision,” a source in the German parliament told the publication. “Other Ukrainian politicians, such as Oleg Lyashko and Yulia Tymoshenko, also caused a great disappointment.”

        Well what can we say about this: "An apple does not fall far from an apple tree!" Another was not to be expected. You might think that the West, when he bet on Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk, was not thinking of his own benefit, but of a prosperous Ukraine! So why do you think your “students” will act differently?
    4. edge
      edge 28 September 2015 09: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: oleg-gr
      When they build the Nord Stream 2, then they will definitely forget about the Outskirts. The European shaft will be built from Ukrainians fleeing to Europe.

      the outskirts have been turned into another banana republic, where the loot is dripping, it is dripping for the necessary cries, and then not everyone (see the Baltic states), .... but who needs arrogant, stupid ... lumpen lumps ... there are enough of them everywhere.
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 28 September 2015 10: 48 New
      +4
      Ha! Europe will have to pay for Eurobonds beyond the Outskirts. laughing
  2. Svyatogor
    Svyatogor 28 September 2015 09: 12 New
    +8
    Project Ukraine tse Europe is slowly starting to decay, but there will still be a lot of stench from dying Ukraine, which was to be expected from such a government
    1. Penetrator
      Penetrator 28 September 2015 09: 19 New
      +6
      That’s interesting, the EU Ukrainians are throwing with Europush, and Russia will be guilty again?
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 28 September 2015 09: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: Penetrator
        Russia will be guilty again?


        Yes, it will be for us to get used to it?
        Yes, there will be heavy therapy, but dosed cold and hunger guarantee the recovery of the inhabitants of this plague barrack, although not even all will survive to the future.
      2. Svyatogor
        Svyatogor 28 September 2015 09: 25 New
        0
        Everything will depend on what the UN Assembly can agree on.
    2. edge
      edge 28 September 2015 09: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Svyatogor
      Project Ukraine tse Europe is slowly starting to decay, but there will still be a lot of stench from dying Ukraine

      gas masks must be urgently put on the border areas to the local population
  3. asadov
    asadov 28 September 2015 09: 14 New
    +3
    Moor (Ukraine) has done its job - the Moor may die.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 28 September 2015 09: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: asadov
      the moor may die.


      We won’t let us die, but we’ll have to go on a diet and grow cold from the cold - and all this in the name of recovery!
      "The miracle of starvation!"
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 28 September 2015 09: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: asadov
      Moor (Ukraine) has done its job - the Moor may die.



      I would change a little ...

      "The Moor could not really carry out the work entrusted to him and for this reason must die" ...
    3. edge
      edge 28 September 2015 09: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: asadov
      Moor (Ukraine) has done its job - the Moor may die.

      ..... Mavro must be allowed to die (and then reincarnation)
    4. Azitral
      Azitral 28 September 2015 10: 51 New
      -1
      1) Little Russians - exist. This is a separate ethnic group, and quite “young”, in this matter I tend to believe L. Gumilyov.
      2) Young and kindred ethnic group, people are persistent by definition. They will survive any adversity, as we survived the Time of Troubles, the Civil War after the 17th year - and the 90s, when we literally had no prerequisites to survive. Do not count on the total collapse of society, starvation and epidemics leading to mass protests.
      3) Maybe some parts will go to other countries, their population will dissolve in a new identity, the “Little Russian” core will remain.
      4) Hostility - not necessarily forever. Well, as the Poles hated the Germans for pranks in the years 39 - 45, - and, by the way, for the cause - it’s scary to imagine. And nothing, the brothers said, that’s all. Friendship World Chewing Gum. So, with the favorable development of events, the Little Russians will pass.
  4. as150505
    as150505 28 September 2015 09: 16 New
    +4
    Does the West gain insight on the sly?
  5. Zomanus
    Zomanus 28 September 2015 09: 17 New
    +3
    But it’s interesting, Europeans. before brewing this porridge with maidan, they asked about what Ukrainians are? These are still flowers, soon the Ukrainians will show them who actually all the European nations and languages ​​went from and who should be thanked for this ...
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 28 September 2015 09: 31 New
      +1
      And the Europeans are bonded people (such little whores) and did all this from under a star-striped stick (almost a club) ... and they built them all in a line of coma - who will protest if Uncle Sam pays for it?
  6. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 28 September 2015 09: 19 New
    +14
    West tired of Ukraine
  7. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 28 September 2015 09: 19 New
    +6
    Europe naive or senile old? !!! Helped to arrange this "circus", and now awaits thanks.
  8. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 28 September 2015 09: 20 New
    +6
    Hehe))) Junta 3,14st, la la la la la)))
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 28 September 2015 09: 33 New
      +2
      ... the problems stopped and thought hard ...
  9. morpogr
    morpogr 28 September 2015 09: 20 New
    +12
    In short, they got everyone, and no one pays attention to the eternal nagging that Russia is to blame. And nobody wants to give money to the bankrupt and thieves.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 28 September 2015 09: 41 New
      +6
      Quote: morpogr
      In short, we got everyone



      The true direction is missing in this picture ...
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 28 September 2015 12: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: veksha50
        Quote: morpogr
        In short, we got everyone



        The true direction is missing in this picture ...


        Three letters ??? +++++++
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  11. hydrox
    hydrox 28 September 2015 09: 21 New
    +1
    === In the end, it is also beneficial for Russia to supply gas to Kiev. ”===

    What is he talking about? Supply energy to a country that is at war with Russia?
    Is he out of his mind? We supply gas not to the state-headed by the Nazis, but to the people, who would simply die without it !!!
  12. Warbird # 4
    Warbird # 4 28 September 2015 09: 23 New
    +2
    Last Chinese? Or is a decision made?
    In general, it seems mournful: "the mistress threw a hare, without a pants (fat, gorilka, gas, lace underpants) there was a hare" ...
  13. 2224460
    2224460 28 September 2015 09: 23 New
    +2
    “Most politicians in Ukraine feel that their Western partners have left them to their fate”
    Alas, this is the fate of all "disposable products", used-throw.
  14. SeAl2014
    SeAl2014 28 September 2015 09: 24 New
    +5
    How tired of all this.
  15. dsi
    dsi 28 September 2015 09: 24 New
    +2
    "Kiev took this proposal hostile, but in the end it is unlikely to be able to refuse",

    And what is rape, legally?
  16. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 September 2015 09: 27 New
    +3
    In Ukraine, they do not feel gratitude

    Well, you guys are democrats and rolled out his lip. When was Kiev grateful for something? You still say thank you for while they don’t cover like Russia, which still helps Ukraine with masochistic stubbornness.
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 28 September 2015 12: 41 New
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In Ukraine, they do not feel gratitude

      Well, you guys are democrats and rolled out his lip. When was Kiev grateful for something? You still say thank you for while they don’t cover like Russia, which still helps Ukraine with masochistic stubbornness.

      Amerikosy do not cover, probably with tsikatno. But Merkel with Hollande in the censor gets kindly.
  17. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 28 September 2015 09: 28 New
    +7
    Russia has long been waiting for this .... We are patient! Then the “debriefing” will spend quietly and without noise! laughing
  18. veksha50
    veksha50 28 September 2015 09: 33 New
    0
    "according to the publication,"Kiev does not attach much importance to real assistance from Brussels"" ...

    ??

    That is, he attaches importance only to assistance from Washington ???

    Well, let the US help, but you, Europe, refuse ... Who is stopping you ??? The same Washington ???
  19. 79807420129
    79807420129 28 September 2015 09: 35 New
    +11
    I get up in the morning and think: what have I done for Ukraine. I get up for almost 2 years and think: -Well, you went to .... Ukraine.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 28 September 2015 16: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: 79807420129
      I get up in the morning and think: what have I done for Ukraine. I get up for almost 2 years and think: -Well, you went to .... Ukraine.

      You do it ... be careful ... I did it too! Heart attack! Well them on figs ... Think of Israel! They know what they need and so quietly and calmly in their souls ...! bully
  20. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 September 2015 09: 45 New
    +2
    For a long time it came to them. And there is no unity in geyrop. But the main - all the same - the Germans. They will not give money - and no one will. And now they will fall - questions to the junta that have not disappeared. Who shot on the Maidan? Who organized the Odessa Khatyn? Who shot down a Boeing?
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 28 September 2015 10: 22 New
      +2
      Well
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Who shot down a Boeing?
      ?
  21. Valentine
    Valentine 28 September 2015 09: 50 New
    +2
    Not only the West was tired of Ukraine, the entire adequate world was tired of its meanness and unpredictability,
    from her "the worse, the better," and her entire leadership resembles the patients of "Chamber No. 6".
  22. evil partisan
    evil partisan 28 September 2015 10: 11 New
    +1
    Well, that’s it ... Today, on the Censor, the most popular tune-up tune is “Everything is gone, the client leaves !!”. yes
  23. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 28 September 2015 10: 19 New
    +2
    Is the West tired of Ukraine? I do not believe it yet, maybe after 20 years it will get tired. He raised Ukraine anti-Russian and anti-Russian and throw everything halfway? He’ll give up if we sell him offal. No need to believe individual articles and words.
  24. Millibyte
    Millibyte 28 September 2015 10: 32 New
    +7
    In fact, Russia did not achieve this (complete Ukrainian isolation). Russia has the patience of an empire. That's when the people in Ukraine will eat up the last beetroot without salt, when the most advanced, with the beginnings of intelligence, local Euro-sufferers will themselves, without tambourines and jumps, realize that they are not needed by anyone in Geyropa and will call upon all the remaining ukroloh to understand when the main the masses in Ukraine will begin to realize that only in the East will they be given a strong, calloused helping hand. Yes, Russia will stretch out, but not immediately, but only after the narcotic panukrism disappears from its foolish head in the western neighbor.
    1. manguest
      manguest 28 September 2015 11: 05 New
      0
      Ukrism, unfortunately, is a very persistent infection, relapses 2-3 times a century against the background of temporary weakening of Russian statehood. And this time it is unlikely to be different, b / ukr, which is pretty empty and decayed, will be washed off and again allowed to go to the common Russian table. I don’t think that even a multiple decrease in the population due to stubborn embroiderers will change something. The only option is with the complete degradation and Muslimization of Europe.
  25. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 28 September 2015 10: 56 New
    0
    the Gayropeans still do not understand that Ukraine is a bottomless pit and how many do not toss everything will disappear, it is not known where from with ever increasing speed. The Yankees understood this for a long time on the relations between Russia and Ukraine and do not give money, but supply weapons that they no longer need, bill them for the future. But the EU is forced to contain Ukraine, otherwise Bandera jumps will fade there
  26. roskot
    roskot 28 September 2015 11: 00 New
    0
    Europe still has a lot to learn about dill. For example, the fact that the gratitude of gossip is absent completely

    And they have a very developed sense of freebie.
  27. demo
    demo 28 September 2015 11: 20 New
    0
    “The European Union has made a lot of efforts for Kiev and Moscow to come to a gas agreement before the start of the heating season, and, in particular, has provided Ukraine with more than 500 million euros for this. In Ukraine, they don’t feel gratitude, ”the newspaper writes and quotes the representative of the Ukrainian Cabinet, who told the publication:“ Why should we be grateful for this agreement? In the end, it’s also beneficial for Russia to supply gas to Kiev ”

    Wait.
    Soon you will hear the following:
    "You Europeans pulled us into all these harlots, and you keep us!"
  28. Roust
    Roust 28 September 2015 12: 35 New
    0
    Tortured and abandoned ...
  29. Tanker55
    Tanker55 28 September 2015 13: 06 New
    +1
    Europe wakes up! -Late! This pseudo country since the days of the USSR has been like a tumor in Russia, and no matter how much good it and its people would do, it’s always bad and little.
  30. loaln
    loaln 28 September 2015 13: 32 New
    0
    “The European Union has made a lot of efforts for Kiev and Moscow to come to a gas agreement before the start of the heating season, and, in particular, has provided Ukraine with more than 500 million euros for this. In Ukraine, they don’t feel gratitude ”...

    Here, just, I would like to know what OUR ACTIVITIES are experiencing, who cheeks are so puffed up that it was a pity to watch and listen to them, curled up while announcing the final gas price: "About $ 230 ...". What shyness tormented to voice the final figure? It seems to be even lower than the primary requirements of Ukraine.
    What had to be fucked for myself (for the country, ... I don’t even stutter about it) in the conditions when they spit in your physiognomy and are not shown naked, and you joyfully announce the discount for demanding cries: "Come on more ! "?
  31. BlackDragon
    BlackDragon 28 September 2015 14: 08 New
    0
    Ukraine is a strategically important territory for everyone, neither the West nor the Russian Federation will ever give up control of this country. The way out for Ukraine is only in the revival of its own army and consistent foreign policy.
  32. kizhe
    kizhe 28 September 2015 14: 18 New
    0
    Although this is logical.
  33. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 28 September 2015 18: 14 New
    0
    Quote: Azitral
    Little Russians exist. This is a separate ethnic group, and quite “young”, in this matter I tend to believe L. Gumilyov.

    Could you give a link to the job? It’s just that I wrote a student according to Lev Nikolaevich, but I don’t remember such a revelation.
    Z.Y. Although, if you recall the Ukrainian-Parthian wars ...