Mass media: The West is tired of Ukraine and can leave it alone with its problems

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In Berlin, they believe that the Ukrainian authorities do not justify the assistance that they receive from the West, and have done little to promote reforms, Deutsche Welle (DW) writes. Article leads RIA News.



“We see that Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk are slipping into behavior when the main thing is getting benefits from a particular decision,” a source in the German parliament told the publication. “Other Ukrainian politicians, such as Oleg Lyashko and Yulia Tymoshenko, also caused a great disappointment.”

According to DW, “European deputies, who arrived in Kiev in September to assess the situation with reforms, at the final press conference on September 25 noted that Brussels is not too impressed with the achievements of Kiev and would like to see real results.”

European Commissioner Vera Yurova noted, for example, that "Ukraine will not have a second chance to carry out important reforms." Financial assistance to the country will depend on the success of the reforms.

"The bitter pill for Kiev is the compromise peace plan proposed by French diplomat Pierre Morel," writes DW and explains that this plan implies the adoption by the Rada of a separate law "allowing the holding of elections in the territories not controlled by Ukraine." And as the source said, Europe intends to adhere to the “Morel plan”.

“Kiev accepted this proposal with hostility, but in the end it can hardly be refused,” said French international security expert Mathieu Buleg. He believes that the West has lately "appeared more serious problems: the struggle against the" Islamic state ", the situation in Syria and the migration crisis." And Western politicians hope to involve Russia in solving these problems. In addition, there was talk about the possibility of lifting the sanctions.

“Most politicians in Ukraine feel that Western partners have abandoned them to the mercy of fate,” notes the Tagesspiegel newspaper.

At the same time, according to the publication, "Kiev does not attach much importance to the real assistance from Brussels."

“The European Union has put a lot of effort into ensuring that Kiev and Moscow reach a gas agreement before the start of the heating season, and, in particular, provided Ukraine with more than 500 million euros. In Ukraine, they don’t feel gratitude, ”the newspaper writes and cites the words of a representative of the Ukrainian Cabinet who told the publication:“ Why should we be grateful for this agreement? In the end, Russia is also profitable to supply gas to Kiev. ”
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  1. +26
    28 September 2015 09: 10
    When the Nord Stream 2 is built, then they will definitely forget about the Outskirts. The European shaft will be built from Ukrainians fleeing to Europe.
    1. +20
      28 September 2015 09: 18
      The West is tired of Ukraine and may leave it alone with its problems

      And Russia was striving for this .... TO ONE FOR ONE AND FOR THE CLOSED DENY DOORS! angry
      1. +6
        28 September 2015 09: 22
        Moreover, it is worth watching them closely
        No matter how they arrange something like a downed Boeing to attract attention to themselves
        1. avg
          +20
          28 September 2015 09: 45
          “Why should we be grateful for this agreement?

          Europe still has a lot to learn about dill. For example, the fact that the gratitude of gossip is absent completely request Not only do the more good they do, the more boorish antics you get in return.
          1. +8
            28 September 2015 09: 55
            Quote: avg
            Not only do the more good they do, the more boorish antics you get in return.

            "They gave me some pitiful 500 lemons! Why didn't they pay for gas for Ukraine in full? We are defending Europe from Russian aggression! Russia does not want to lose a client! We made it make concessions!" (and in general, where did you drink good?)
            That's about what they say in BP. laughing
            1. +10
              28 September 2015 10: 22
              Well, why only Europe? And the Americans gave Dill to Gas (see the news archive) about a month ago. But what’s interesting, Ukrainians will not receive money in any case, they will go directly to Gazprom’s accounts. Here is the reason for the howl.
            2. 0
              28 September 2015 12: 48
              Quote: Egoza
              "They gave me some pitiful 500 lemons!

              And they weren’t given))) This money will come to Russia, bypassing Ukraine, but becoming a Ukrainian debt to Brussels. For this reason, in dill and do not feel gratitude. Tyrot is not what)))
            3. +1
              28 September 2015 16: 08
              The fact of the matter is that they didn't give ANYTHING. The European Union has agreed with Russia on supplies and prices. Ukraine was presented with a fact and was invited ONLY to sign the papers. Incl. and for trouble-free transit through its territory. And the money for this will go from Geyropa directly to the Russian Federation without a "check-in" to the square ... Therefore, howl that there will be no cutting ...
          2. +2
            28 September 2015 10: 58
            With great pleasure the Americans will arrange the second Chernobyl on the outskirts. Having lost influence on the outskirts, they will decide: "So don't get it to anyone, Russian outskirts!"
            And they will create universal European atomic fun with the hands of zhidokhokhlov!
        2. +4
          28 September 2015 09: 48
          Quote: bulvas
          No matter how they arrange something like a downed Boeing to attract attention to themselves



          So soon the Boeings will die out, like the Ukrainian Air Force ... How pterodactyls ...
        3. +4
          28 September 2015 09: 51
          Quote: bulvas
          Moreover, it is worth watching them closely

          -------------------
          Ukrainians do not need to pay attention at all, they are like cats, as soon as they hear the words "brotherly people", "European people" so immediately yell and demand havchik ... They need to be tougher with them, it is only good for them ... Ukrainians-bosses, this is the mentality of a peasant who got into the city and became a boss ... Such people immediately begin to inflate with their own greatness and their conceit begins to swell disproportionately ...
          1. 0
            28 September 2015 10: 28
            Ukrainians do not need to pay attention at all, they are like cats, as soon as they hear the words "brotherly people", "European people" they immediately start yelling and demanding food ...
            So there’s more benefit from the cat - even purrs pleasantly (albeit from sneaky considerations) laughing
          2. wef
            +2
            28 September 2015 12: 45
            Ukrainians do not need to pay attention at all, they are like cats, as soon as they hear the words "brotherly people", "European people" so immediately yell and demand a havchik.

            Why should cats be offended by such a comparison? From them, cats, more benefit. Cats are the cutest animal. And they also benefit - for example, they catch mice. And Ukrainians do not catch mice, they only yell.
        4. -3
          28 September 2015 12: 39
          All airlines in the world after a downed Boeing do not fly over Hohland. Well, to us, thank God forbidden. so, you need to come up with something else. it’s better to jerk something and blame Putin personally.
        5. 0
          28 September 2015 12: 39
          All airlines in the world after a downed Boeing do not fly over Hohland. Well, to us, thank God forbidden. so, you need to come up with something else. it’s better to jerk something and blame Putin personally.
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      3. WKS
        +14
        28 September 2015 09: 27
        In this regard, one thought of one Ukrainian political scientist is interesting. "The United States needs Ukraine hostile to Russia or none. For Russia, Ukraine needs Russia friendly or none. A compromise between Russia and the United States is obvious and suggests itself based on these needs."
        1. +4
          28 September 2015 09: 47
          Quote: wks
          no. The compromise between Russia and the USA is obvious


          Only I do not catch up ... but no - who needs it ???
          1. +6
            28 September 2015 10: 16
            Quote: veksha50
            Only I do not catch up ... but no - who needs it ???


            none - means Ukraine as part of another state, all or in parts

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      4. +1
        28 September 2015 09: 35
        Quote: MIKHAN
        The West is tired of Ukraine and may leave it alone with its problems

        And Russia was striving for this .... TO ONE FOR ONE AND FOR THE CLOSED DENY DOORS! angry

        Yes, it's high time. They created a cesspool from Ukraine, now let them rake themselves.
      5. +1
        28 September 2015 10: 04
        Exactly, behind closed doors, and with the lights off. This is called making a "dark." From the experience of the army, I will say that these things taught many on the right path.
      6. +1
        28 September 2015 11: 49
        Quote: MIKHAN
        And Russia was striving for this .... TO ONE FOR ONE AND FOR THE CLOSED DENY DOORS!
        The USA hasn’t gone anywhere, but they’re the main violin there, alas
        1. 0
          28 September 2015 13: 29
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          Quote: MIKHAN
          And Russia was striving for this .... TO ONE FOR ONE AND FOR THE CLOSED DENY DOORS!
          The USA hasn’t gone anywhere, but they’re the main violin there, alas



          Do you really think that pragmatic Americans will endlessly pour money into this black hole?
          To contain about 40 million people - this is not even the coulters pull.
    2. +14
      28 September 2015 09: 23
      The Ukrainian junta never had high hopes for Brussels, even though it tried to lick by signing the association! The junta was delivered from Washington, the IMF pro-American organization gives money, as a result of this Poroshenko and Co. will look into the mouths of children from the White House and from Capitol Hill!
      But behind the puddle for Ukrainians, the problems began! The curator of the project "Reichkommissariat Ukraine" Nuland was paralyzed (there is still God in heaven), plus the election race begins in the USA and there is no time for half-witted Ukrainian lads! Syria again ... Therefore, they are starting to merge a little to Europe, and Europe, this American hemorrhoid, the same fuck did not give up!
    3. +4
      28 September 2015 09: 31
      Naive Europeans! They do not know our army classics "Wherever you kiss - everywhere ... oops!", But it is relevant to the modern Ukrainian scenario as never before.
      1. +1
        28 September 2015 09: 43
        “We see that Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk are slipping into behavior when the main thing is getting benefits from a particular decision,” a source in the German parliament told the publication. “Other Ukrainian politicians, such as Oleg Lyashko and Yulia Tymoshenko, also caused a great disappointment.”

        Well what can I say about this: "The apple does not fall far from the apple tree!" There was no need to expect anything else. You might think that the West, when betting on Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk, was not thinking about its own benefit, but about a prosperous Ukraine! So why do you think your "students" will do differently?
    4. +1
      28 September 2015 09: 39
      Quote: oleg-gr
      When the Nord Stream 2 is built, then they will definitely forget about the Outskirts. The European shaft will be built from Ukrainians fleeing to Europe.

      the outskirts have been turned into another banana republic, where the loot is dripping, it is dripping for the necessary cries, and then not everyone (see the Baltic states), .... but who needs arrogant, stupid ... lumpen lumps ... there are enough of them everywhere.
    5. +4
      28 September 2015 10: 48
      Ha! Europe will have to pay for Eurobonds beyond the Outskirts. laughing
  2. +8
    28 September 2015 09: 12
    Project Ukraine tse Europe is slowly starting to decay, but there will still be a lot of stench from dying Ukraine, which was to be expected from such a government
    1. +6
      28 September 2015 09: 19
      That’s interesting, the EU Ukrainians are throwing with Europush, and Russia will be guilty again?
      1. +3
        28 September 2015 09: 25
        Quote: Penetrator
        Russia will be guilty again?


        Yes, it will be for us to get used to it?
        Yes, there will be heavy therapy, but dosed cold and hunger guarantee the recovery of the inhabitants of this plague barrack, although not even all will survive to the future.
      2. 0
        28 September 2015 09: 25
        Everything will depend on what the UN Assembly can agree on.
    2. +1
      28 September 2015 09: 43
      Quote: Svyatogor
      Project Ukraine tse Europe is slowly starting to decay, but there will still be a lot of stench from dying Ukraine

      gas masks must be urgently put on the border areas to the local population
  3. +3
    28 September 2015 09: 14
    Moor (Ukraine) has done its job - the Moor may die.
    1. +3
      28 September 2015 09: 27
      Quote: asadov
      the moor may die.


      We won’t let us die, but we’ll have to go on a diet and grow cold from the cold - and all this in the name of recovery!
      "The Miracle of Fasting"!
    2. +1
      28 September 2015 09: 44
      Quote: asadov
      Moor (Ukraine) has done its job - the Moor may die.



      I would change a little ...

      "The Moor could not really carry out the work entrusted to him and for this reason must die" ...
    3. +1
      28 September 2015 09: 45
      Quote: asadov
      Moor (Ukraine) has done its job - the Moor may die.

      ..... Mavro must be allowed to die (and then reincarnation)
    4. -1
      28 September 2015 10: 51
      1) Little Russians - exist. This is a separate ethnos, and quite a "young" one, in this matter I am inclined to believe L. Gumilyov.
      2) Young and kindred ethnic group, people are persistent by definition. They will survive any adversity, as we survived the Time of Troubles, the Civil War after the 17th year - and the 90s, when we literally had no prerequisites to survive. Do not count on the total collapse of society, starvation and epidemics leading to mass protests.
      3) Maybe some parts will go to other countries, their population will dissolve in a new identity, the "Little Russian" core will remain.
      4) Hostility - not necessarily forever. Well, as the Poles hated the Germans for pranks in the years 39 - 45, - and, by the way, for the cause - it’s scary to imagine. And nothing, the brothers said, that’s all. Friendship World Chewing Gum. So, with the favorable development of events, the Little Russians will pass.
  4. +4
    28 September 2015 09: 16
    Does the West gain insight on the sly?
  5. +3
    28 September 2015 09: 17
    But it’s interesting, Europeans. before brewing this porridge with maidan, they asked about what Ukrainians are? These are still flowers, soon the Ukrainians will show them who actually all the European nations and languages ​​went from and who should be thanked for this ...
    1. +1
      28 September 2015 09: 31
      And the Europeans are bonded people (such little whores) and did all this from under a star-striped stick (almost a club) ... and they built them all in a line of coma - who will protest if Uncle Sam pays for it?
  6. +14
    28 September 2015 09: 19
    West tired of Ukraine
  7. +6
    28 September 2015 09: 19
    Is Europe naive or old senile? !!! She helped arrange this "circus", and now she is waiting for thanks.
  8. +6
    28 September 2015 09: 20
    Hehe))) Junta 3,14st, la la la la la)))
    1. +2
      28 September 2015 09: 33
      ... the problems stopped and thought hard ...
  9. +12
    28 September 2015 09: 20
    In short, they got everyone, and no one pays attention to the eternal nagging that Russia is to blame. And nobody wants to give money to the bankrupt and thieves.
    1. +6
      28 September 2015 09: 41
      Quote: morpogr
      In short, we got everyone



      The true direction is missing in this picture ...
      1. +1
        28 September 2015 12: 38
        Quote: veksha50
        Quote: morpogr
        In short, we got everyone



        The true direction is missing in this picture ...


        Three letters ??? +++++++
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  11. +1
    28 September 2015 09: 21
    === In the end, it is also beneficial for Russia to supply gas to Kiev. ”===

    What is he talking about? Supply energy to a country that is at war with Russia?
    Is he out of his mind? We supply gas not to the state-headed by the Nazis, but to the people, who would simply die without it !!!
  12. +2
    28 September 2015 09: 23
    Last Chinese? Or is a decision made?
    But in general, it seems mournful: "the hostess threw the bunny, the bunny was left without pants (fat, vodka, gas, lace underpants)" ...
  13. +2
    28 September 2015 09: 23
    “Most politicians in Ukraine feel that their Western partners have left them to their fate”
    Alas, this is the fate of all "disposable products", used-throw away.
  14. +5
    28 September 2015 09: 24
    How tired of all this.
  15. dsi
    +2
    28 September 2015 09: 24
    "Kiev took this proposal hostile, but in the end it is unlikely to be able to refuse",

    And what is rape, legally?
  16. +3
    28 September 2015 09: 27
    In Ukraine, they do not feel gratitude

    Well, you guys are democrats and rolled out his lip. When was Kiev grateful for something? You still say thank you for while they don’t cover like Russia, which still helps Ukraine with masochistic stubbornness.
    1. 0
      28 September 2015 12: 41
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In Ukraine, they do not feel gratitude

      Well, you guys are democrats and rolled out his lip. When was Kiev grateful for something? You still say thank you for while they don’t cover like Russia, which still helps Ukraine with masochistic stubbornness.

      Amerikosy do not cover, probably with tsikatno. But Merkel with Hollande in the censor gets kindly.
  17. +7
    28 September 2015 09: 28
    Russia has been waiting for this for a long time .... We are patient! Then we'll conduct our debriefing quietly and without noise! laughing
  18. 0
    28 September 2015 09: 33
    "according to the publication,"Kiev does not attach much importance to real assistance from Brussels"" ...

    ??

    That is, he attaches importance only to assistance from Washington ???

    Well, let the US help, but you, Europe, refuse ... Who is stopping you ??? The same Washington ???
  19. +11
    28 September 2015 09: 35
    I get up in the morning and think: what have I done for Ukraine. I get up for almost 2 years and think: -Well, you went to .... Ukraine.
    1. +2
      28 September 2015 16: 26
      Quote: 79807420129
      I get up in the morning and think: what have I done for Ukraine. I get up for almost 2 years and think: -Well, you went to .... Ukraine.

      You do it ... be careful ... I did it too! Heart attack! Well them on figs ... Think of Israel! They know what they need and so quietly and calmly in their souls ...! bully
  20. +2
    28 September 2015 09: 45
    For a long time it came to them. And there is no unity in geyrop. But the main - all the same - the Germans. They will not give money - and no one will. And now they will fall - questions to the junta that have not disappeared. Who shot on the Maidan? Who organized the Odessa Khatyn? Who shot down a Boeing?
    1. +2
      28 September 2015 10: 22
      Well
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Who shot down a Boeing?
      ?
  21. +2
    28 September 2015 09: 50
    Not only the West was tired of Ukraine, the entire adequate world was tired of its meanness and unpredictability,
    from her "the worse the better" and her entire leadership is reminiscent of the patients of Ward # 6.
  22. +1
    28 September 2015 10: 11
    Well, that's it ... Today on the Censor the most popular faked melody is "Everything is gone, the client is leaving !!" Yes
  23. +2
    28 September 2015 10: 19
    Is the West tired of Ukraine? I do not believe it yet, maybe after 20 years it will get tired. He raised Ukraine anti-Russian and anti-Russian and throw everything halfway? He’ll give up if we sell him offal. No need to believe individual articles and words.
  24. +7
    28 September 2015 10: 32
    In fact, Russia did not achieve this (complete Ukrainian isolation). Russia has the patience of an empire. That's when the people in Ukraine will eat up the last beetroot without salt, when the most advanced, with the beginnings of intelligence, local Euro-sufferers will themselves, without tambourines and jumps, realize that they are not needed by anyone in Geyropa and will call upon all the remaining ukroloh to understand when the main the masses in Ukraine will begin to realize that only in the East will they be given a strong, calloused helping hand. Yes, Russia will stretch out, but not immediately, but only after the narcotic panukrism disappears from its foolish head in the western neighbor.
    1. 0
      28 September 2015 11: 05
      Ukrism, unfortunately, is a very persistent infection, relapses 2-3 times a century against the background of temporary weakening of Russian statehood. And this time it is unlikely to be different, b / ukr, which is pretty empty and decayed, will be washed off and again allowed to go to the common Russian table. I don’t think that even a multiple decrease in the population due to stubborn embroiderers will change something. The only option is with the complete degradation and Muslimization of Europe.
  25. 0
    28 September 2015 10: 56
    the Gayropeans still do not understand that Ukraine is a bottomless pit and how many do not toss everything will disappear, it is not known where from with ever increasing speed. The Yankees understood this for a long time on the relations between Russia and Ukraine and do not give money, but supply weapons that they no longer need, bill them for the future. But the EU is forced to contain Ukraine, otherwise Bandera jumps will fade there
  26. 0
    28 September 2015 11: 00
    Europe still has a lot to learn about dill. For example, the fact that the gratitude of gossip is absent completely

    And they have a very developed sense of freebie.
  27. 0
    28 September 2015 11: 20
    “The European Union has made a lot of efforts for Kiev and Moscow to come to a gas agreement before the start of the heating season, and, in particular, has provided Ukraine with more than 500 million euros for this. In Ukraine, they don’t feel gratitude, ”the newspaper writes and quotes the representative of the Ukrainian Cabinet, who told the publication:“ Why should we be grateful for this agreement? In the end, it’s also beneficial for Russia to supply gas to Kiev ”

    Wait.
    Soon you will hear the following:
    "You, Europeans, have drawn us into all these fornication, you support us!"
  28. 0
    28 September 2015 12: 35
    Tortured and abandoned ...
  29. +1
    28 September 2015 13: 06
    Europe wakes up! -Late! This pseudo country since the days of the USSR has been like a tumor in Russia, and no matter how much good it and its people would do, it’s always bad and little.
  30. 0
    28 September 2015 13: 32
    “The European Union has made a lot of efforts for Kiev and Moscow to come to a gas agreement before the start of the heating season, and, in particular, has provided Ukraine with more than 500 million euros for this. In Ukraine, they don’t feel gratitude ”...

    Here, just, I would like to know what OUR ACTORS feel, who puffed out their cheeks so much that it was a pity to watch and listen to them shrinking when the final gas price was announced: "About $ 230 ...". What embarrassment tortured to announce the final figure? It seems to be even lower than the primary requirements of Ukraine.
    What should have been for myself (for the country, ... I don’t even stutter about it) in conditions when they spit in your face and just don’t show your naked hair, and you happily announce the discount under demanding shouts: “Come on ! "?
  31. 0
    28 September 2015 14: 08
    Ukraine is a strategically important territory for everyone, neither the West nor the Russian Federation will ever give up control of this country. The way out for Ukraine is only in the revival of its own army and consistent foreign policy.
  32. 0
    28 September 2015 14: 18
    Although this is logical.
  33. 0
    28 September 2015 18: 14
    Quote: Azitral
    Little Russians exist. This is a separate ethnos, and quite a "young" one, in this matter I am inclined to believe L. Gumilyov.

    Could you give a link to the job? It’s just that I wrote a student according to Lev Nikolaevich, but I don’t remember such a revelation.
    Z.Y. Although, if you recall the Ukrainian-Parthian wars ...