Deadly threat to "Cobra" and "Mirage" - Russian modernized "Shilka-M4"

Foreign armies still use hundreds of ZSU-23-4, which are still an excellent low-cost option for any country. Therefore, the task of upgrading the machine veteran is still relevant. According to military experts, the best option would be the Russian ZSU-23-4М4 "Shilka-М4", recently demonstrated at an exhibition in Nizhny Tagil, reports "Messenger of Mordovia".

According to the creators of the machine, the main purpose of the ZSU-23-4М4 "Shilka-М4" is air defense of ground forces units in all types of combat operations, as well as for air defense of objects.

ZSU can fight with low-flying aircraft, including hovering, cruise missiles, unmanned aerial vehicles, lightly armored ground and surface targets, as well as targets that are dropped on parachutes under conditions of interference and various climatic conditions.

It is possible to integrate into a single military information structure of air defense. The machine is equipped with: 23-mm quad small caliber installation, two universal starter modules. Ammunition - 2000 23-mm shots, as well as 4 missiles to the Strelets complex.

In a single air defense system, an air target can be detected up to 34 km. The maximum target tracking when using a radio channel reaches - 10 km, the minimum - 200 meters.

The machine has the ability to shoot down air targets that fly at a speed of 500 MS, the minimum height of the target tracking is 20 meters. The consumption of shells - 300-600 shots, the probability of hitting the target in one span at the expense of shells to 300 pieces - 0.5.

The range of damage in range is 2500 meters, in height 1500 meters, rocket armament in range 5000 meters, and height 3500 meters. Crew - 4 person.

Comments

[Hubun]

Shilka is definitely a thing !!! Somewhere I heard that a tank can stop in the forehead. Of course, it won’t take the armor, but the tank is rowing on the spot. But it’s a terrible thing against manpower in a clean field. Yes, and against aviation, it seems to me, pretty relevant. Especially in modernized versions

[Mitek]

We were surprised by the rockets on the Shilka. Such modernization has been asking for a long time. Not the richest countries will like it, and our storage facilities can be slowly upgraded.

[dr.star75]

Shylka on a needle - yes. But as air defense - sorry. 300 rounds of ammunition with a probability of 0.5, say 600 rounds - 100%, ammunition 2000, we get 3 downed targets, And if you put missiles there, you get a shell. He is already riveting with might and main.

[vadsonen]

This should not be allowed. Will the gun always have time to release 600 shells in one flight? Will there be a second flight at all?

In any case, the probabilities cannot be added this way, and 100% defeat will never happen. Therefore, to hit even 3 targets with a high probability will not work.

[litus]

Quote: vadsonen

In any case, the probabilities cannot be added this way, and 100% defeat will never happen. Therefore, to hit even 3 targets with a high probability will not work

and if 2 shilka will work for the same purpose? so it is possible?

[alex86]

If I remember school math correctly, the probability of defeat will be 1-0,5x0,5 = 0,75 - of course, you can ...

[edge]

Quote: vadsonen

Will the gun always have time to release 600 shells in one flight? Will there be a second flight at all?

This is a system of front-line air cover, the fight against attack aircraft and helicopters ....

[aleks 62 next]

... Will the gun always have time to release 600 shells in one flight? ...

... Will have time ..... There rate of fire - mom, don't worry !!!! ..... I don't remember exactly, but the rate of fire is about 3500 per minute ... And this is about 10 seconds ... In general, this thing hits with packets of shots .... Even if a 2 sec packet is a "swarm" of 120-140 shells .... Taking into account automatic guidance .... Tin !!!!

[VeteranS]

On the Tu-95 in 1971, when I served as an air gunner, the radio operator YES stood just 3X2 AM-23 guns .... Diameter 23 mm, and rate of fire 23 shots per second from one twin gun ... 1380 rounds per minute .. . armor-piercing shells, conventional, incendiary ... So much time has passed, and this model of the 23 mm gun is constantly being improved! When we shot at ground targets during the exercises, a black spot remained from the targets ... Still, God did not deprive us of the bright brains of our designers and scientists!

[dkflbvbh]

Moreover, under Soviet rule, they delivered missiles and called them "Tunguska"

[Shuttle]

Quote: dkflbvbh

Moreover, under Soviet rule, they delivered missiles and called them "Tunguska"

It’s all wrong, Comrade Lieutenant Colonel!
Shilka: 4 × 23-mm
Tunguska: 2 x 30 mm

[Sirocco]

Quote: Hubun

Shilka is definitely a thing !!!

If memory serves, then in Afghanistan the spirits called it Shaitan Arba, only in Afghanistan a radar station was removed from it, so as not to give out its presence in escort columns.

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Sirocco

If memory serves, then in Afghanistan the spirits called it Shaitan Arba, only in Afghanistan the radar station was removed from it, so as not to give out its presence in the convoy columns.

The radar station, and everything that was connected with the guidance over the radio channel, was not dismantled for this. And as unnecessary ...
The "spirits" did not have aviation.

And in addition, the dismantling of equipment, allowed to increase the volume for ammunition, improving its characteristics.

[Vadimsh]

Yes, that's right

[ARES623]

Quote: Sirocco

If memory serves, then in Afghanistan the spirits called it Shaitan Arba, only in Afghanistan the radar station was removed from it, so as not to give out its presence in the convoy columns.

Shilka and BMP-2 were also called "Shaitan Arboy". For this, sometimes the bannik was stuck into the BMP-1 cannon, so that from a distance there was a resemblance to the "2". But about the rent of the radar, so as not to give out the location - amused. Even Hollywood did not enter into a head to put a mujahid in his turban at the remote control of a radar reconnaissance station. Move the idea there - you see, you will chop the cabbage. They love science fiction.

[Kolyma]

I mean something else :) namely, to increase the survival of the machine on the battlefield by reducing its visual identification, so that it (shilka) does not become a priority target for the first grenade

[Vadimsh]

absolutely right

[NOMADE]

this is a beautiful legend, Newton’s laws, no one canceled, if the tank had stopped, then the silk itself would have flown away in the opposite direction when shots;))
and so, Shilka is a thing! Modernization has long been obvious with the change of Breo, the installation of missile weapons.
In truth, a universal machine, you need to support the infantry, please, you need to cover from the air, please, too!

[Sirocco]

Quote: NOMADE

this is a beautiful legend, Newton’s laws, no one has canceled

At the expense of Shilka, I don’t know, maybe this is a legend, but about the AK-630, I saw the transmission on TV, according to the designer, demolishes all the attachments from the tank (as I can expect the storage cabinet) and incapacitates everything equipment inside the tank that may fall off the mount.

[NOMADE]

so I didn’t say anything about damage, I mean that it stops. It is clear that with such a rate of fire, the entire outer body kit will be demolished. about 30 mm, there was even more, there was information that, when a leopard (which type I don’t remember) is successfully hit (with a small dispersion of shells)), cracks appear.
when working ak 630, the moment of return, as far as I remember -20 tons!

[Black Colonel]

In my opinion, not a moment of bestowal, but an impulse. The moment is still a force on the shoulder.

[NOMADE]

yes, you are right - an impulse, not a moment of bestowal

[Dilshat]

It won’t break through the armor of the tank, but what kind of crash will it be inside the tank? Stunning the entire crew and the problem of washing their pants. This is not before maneuvers and battles

[Andrey NM]

Actually, the AK-630 is a ship system, how will it shoot at tanks?

[NOMADE]

I know perfectly well that ship option. I mentioned it, as an example on the return))) and 30 mm and its power is about a weapon on a BMP (I do not remember the model)

[Zaurbek]

There was an article about firing BMP-3

[Zaurbek]

There was an article about firing BMP-3

[gjv]

Quote: Zaurbek

There was an article about firing BMP-3

I did not find an article about shooting. There is an article about the modernization of weapons BMP-3.
KBP weapons for wars of new type
http://topwar.ru/25290-oruzhie-kbp-dlya-voyn-novogo-tipa.html
Here’s a video about shooting

[gjv]

Quote: Zaurbek

There was an article about firing BMP-3

Another such presentation of the BMP-3M weapon system

[WUA 518]

Quote: Andrey NM

Actually, the AK-630 is a ship system, how will it shoot at tanks?

The Chinese have already blinded.

[Andrey NM]

Quote: WUA 518

but about the AK-630, I saw the transmission on TV, according to the designer, demolishes all attachments from the tank (as I guess the storage cabinet can also) and destroys all the equipment inside the tank that can break from the mount

Maybe I read something wrong?
The Chinese hid the ammunition in the turret, while the AK-630 had all this under the turret. How "Shilka" shoots, I did not see, but how AK-630 I had to, I liked it. Only on the ears is very pressing :).

[bubla5]

Caterpillars can smash into the trash

[BDRM 667]

Quote: bubla5

Caterpillars can smash into the trash

With a successful combination of circumstances, when shooting in a side view, it will "shave off" the whole "hodovka" ...
And the crew, after being hit by a squall of 23mm "cucumbers" in the turret and hull, is not to be envied. I guess at least a shell shock ...

[Lexa-149]

The AK-630 is a ship’s armament. Where did you see the tanks in the sea?! They didn’t do it against the tanks. And the consumption of b / c on it is soooooo! On the ships of the cellar, God forbid!
They shot at the tank at the firing range. Well, the body kit was demolished. So what? And what will happen to the AK-630 or ZSU if the tank gets into the response?

[Yarik]

gee-gee. And if, for example, a bullet from an AKP Colt 11.43 rolls a person when hit in the chest, is that a shooter flies off for a couple of meters? Something, it seems to me, you and Comrade Newton did not work out.

[dmi.pris1]

The legend is that the checkpoint tank was covered .. Bullshit of course! But against the subsonic cruise missiles the thing is deadly. The radar is of course old, but the flow of shells .... like from a brigade ...

Quote: Yarik

gee-gee. And if, for example, a bullet from an AKP Colt 11.43 rolls a person when hit in the chest, is that a shooter flies off for a couple of meters? Something, it seems to me, you and Comrade Newton did not work out.

[Archon]

Well, it depends on how thick the shooter and target are. if a terribly thin person shoots a fat man, the situation will change.

[anfil]

this is a beautiful legend, Newton’s laws, no one canceled, if the tank had stopped, then the silk itself would have flown away in the opposite direction when shots;))

So the tank does not push the shilka, but the released charges, which have their own speed. And so in your opinion it turns out that the person who shot the pistol at the bulletproof vest should also fly off at the same distance as the person in the bulletproof vest into which the bullet hit.

[APASUS]

Quote: NOMADE

this is a beautiful legend, Newton’s laws, no one canceled, if the tank had stopped, then the silk itself would have flown away in the opposite direction when shots;))

It looks like your Newton lived far from school ??
The force of expanding gases during the combustion of gunpowder accelerates a bullet in the bore and gives it kinetic energy.
How is the energy of the weapon related to the purpose in which it falls?
This is not a spear rider for you, where spears are filed at a performance

[Black Colonel]

To the picture.
In the picture, the knights converge incorrectly, in the right-hand position, which does not give the proper effect for defeat. From here, the world initially had left-hand traffic, i.e. with weapons closer to a potential enemy

[Artyom]

but for me it’s so right! They converge as you indicated, then the right side is not exposed!

[NOMADE]

Newton is not mine, but the great scholarly heritage of mankind. On his laws of conservation of energy, all modern physics (except quantum ...) is built, and as a result, all industry, mechanics and mechanisms.

you yourself correctly answered that the bullet accelerates in the barrel and the maximum speed (and as a consequence the energy E = m * s2) at the cut of the barrel, and so at this moment there is a reaction, in this case, recoil.
Further, in flight, the speed and, as a result, the energy of the bullet / projectile falls (and is not taken from nowhere)))

And to all the minusers, I recommend re-studying the school program in physics (like there used to be a 5-7 grade program)), it’s not holy to believe Hollywood films that when a bullet hits, a person is thrown back by 2 meters))))

[TanakaKenshin]

Quote: NOMADE

Newton is not mine, but the great scholarly heritage of mankind. On his laws of conservation of energy, all modern physics (except quantum ...) is built, and as a result, all industry, mechanics and mechanisms.

you yourself correctly answered that the bullet accelerates in the barrel and the maximum speed (and as a consequence the energy E = m * s2) at the cut of the barrel, and so at this moment there is a reaction, in this case, recoil.
Further, in flight, the speed and, as a result, the energy of the bullet / projectile falls (and is not taken from nowhere)))

And to all the minusers, I recommend re-studying the school program in physics (like there used to be a 5-7 grade program)), it’s not holy to believe Hollywood films that when a bullet hits, a person is thrown back by 2 meters))))

Nothing personal, but before sending others for textbooks, it would not be bad to repeat the basics yourself;)
Firstly, E = mc ^ 2 is a formula of the total energy of a physical object released during its annihilation. For less pathos physics, the kinetic energy formula is used, E = 0,5mv ^ 2.
Secondly, first the recoil acts on the breech / breech, and only then on the cut of the barrel, and it acts on the breech / breech to a much greater extent than on the cut of the barrel.

[michell]

Quote: NOMADE

this is a beautiful legend, Newton’s laws, no one canceled if the tank stopped

Figuratively speaking, the "tank stopped" - this is not a legend, but reality. Shilka's fire density is the highest, and if MBT hits this stream of 23-mm shells, his armor, of course, will remain intact, but the attachments (headlights, sights, external machine gun) will simply blow off, all periscopic devices will be broken, and after that the tank will not go anywhere, let alone the ability to fight. So, stopping the tank with Shilkoy is a very real task. The main thing is not to let the tank fire first.

[dokusib]

As there is such a beast "Terminator" is a vehicle for escorting tanks. Just for this, it was made. Only he has a spark

[Thronekeeper]

Moreover - how many foreign operators!
They have a new radar, OEPS, yes + 4 "Pines", even "Needles" for a proven car. And not that expensive.

[Manul]

Quote: NOMADE

this is a beautiful legend, Newton’s laws, no one canceled, if the tank had stopped, then the silk itself would have flown away in the opposite direction when shots;))

Legend, not legend, but what will happen to the tank after Shilka’s solid salvo? Will any of the attachments survive, and will the tank be able to continue fighting after that? I’m not saying that Shilka should be released against tanks, but it seems to me that she has a chance to stop the tank.

[Archon]

At a minimum, it has a very impressive appearance and is able to demoralize the enemy without even shooting at all.

[76rtbr]

I don’t know the tank, it will stop no, but the bald armor remained !!!

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: NOMADE

If the tank stopped, then the silk itself would fly off in the opposite direction when shots;))

An 76 mm T-34 cannon gives a return in 76 tons when fired, which is twice the weight of the tank, so that the tank does not fly away from the shot, there is a hydraulic barrel rollback system, but the energy of impact on the armor of the 76 mm projectile exceeds the daily output of the entire Dnieper . So the power of a projectile strike, if it does not ricochet, exceeds the recoil force many times over.

[NOMADE]

yes, you are right, but this energy is obtained when the projectile comes in contact with another object. compare the area of ​​the frontal projection of the projectile and the area of ​​uniform acceleration of the projectile in the gun’s barrel, then the return goes to the tower, carriage, hull, chassis, ground. a shot is a short-term and controlled impulse. hit of a projectile with its small projection, pointed frontal part, this is an avalanche-like destruction, for understanding, there is such a term as the fluidity of steel, for example 60 kgf / mm. So compare the area of ​​the tip of the projectile (several mm) with the acceleration area in the barrel. energy is not taken from nowhere, after departure and the trunk, the speed only drops, as a result, and energy.

[tolancop]

So the power of a projectile strike, if it does not ricochet, exceeds the recoil force many times over.
Take a physics textbook for the 6th grade (now it may be for another ...) and read the paragraphs with the tasks of maintaining momentum - this is somewhere at the very beginning. In classical students, there was always a task for a bullet fired from a gun, bullet speed and recoil ....

[SSeT]

Do not drive, smoke materiel

[Havoc]

Modernization has long been asking for a change of breo,

Tunguska - this is the modernization of the legendary Shilka.

[igor.borov775]

This is Shilka's Daughter

[Shuttle]

Quote: igor.borov775

This is Shilka's Daughter

Judging by your statement, Shilka is Tunguskin’s mother. And who is dad then?

And, by the way, if you take kinship, then Tunguska is rather the eldest (in the sense of power) sister of Shilka. And most likely even a cousin.

[avia1991]

Quote: Hubun

against manpower in the open field is a terrible thing however.

Not necessarily in the field - in mountainous terrain it perfectly smokes "spirits" from shelters. When escorting columns, the car is irreplaceable!

[Aposlya]

I have one acquaintance, a former officer-flyman once said that if the shilka hits the tank forehead, then the tank seems to be intact, then the stuffing from the crew turns out ... is there anything connected with resonance?

[NOMADE]

this is a legend, but little pleasant, but "minced meat" will not be. this term was true for the high-explosive 122 and 152 mm during the 2nd world war and that because the tanks were not pressurized (there was no protection against weapons of mass destruction). Now it is almost irrelevant, since the tanks are sealed and have excess pressure inside the crew compartment, as a result, are less sensitive to the action of a shock wave when a land mine is detonated.

[NOMADE]

minusator, get out of the dusk and justify what you disagree with.
invisible shooter mlyn))

[igor.borov775]

Hello!! Yes, the old woman can still wrestle, but better of course Tunguska. Ea will not give her to anyone. Crumbles like a sewing machine. For some reason, it is constantly in the shade. And the system is strong.

[edge]

Quote: Hubun

Shilka - a thing definitely !!

and especially for poor states with a rugged topography .... works very well on ground targets (especially in the mountains)

[Tilkus75]

Shaitan Arba Shuravi however!

[AAV]

With a volley of Shilka on the tank, you can take down all of its attachments, including surveillance systems, after which it will most likely stop ...

[A1L9E4K9S]

Veterans do not go to peace and continue to be in service.

[rosarioagro]

except for missiles, and so for Cobras, and even more so for Mirages, they’ll carve it out like a tortoise god

[BDRM 667]

Quote: rosarioagro

except for missiles, and so for Cobras, and even more so for Mirages, they’ll carve it out like a tortoise god

How to say...

In a deeply echeloned air defense system, "Shilka" will be its extreme link, on which the remnants of the enemy aircraft that have broken through will have to break.

She has a place in the army, her own niche ...

[B- 3ACADE]

I would have a sword, but a horse
Yes to the line of fire!
Only hardly shaw from mani
-It was posled after ...
I saw the device in the 1986-mmm case. At night on Katyusha shells,
in Berdyansk. Strongly. Like a salute.

[Ararat]

A good thing. It would be more useful for them to establish Russia on the borders of the Baltic states, Ukraine, and NATO countries so that not a single trough flies.

[Andy]

I want to ask a question to uriapatriotu-why shilka Russia? she is outdated, has insufficient range. there are more powerful and new tungusks in the army, now shells are coming. WHAT FOR? for the sake of an Internet rating? follow the next step in pursuit of virtual shoulder straps you wish the Russian army more flintlocks or immediately to sling-spear-arrows

[sabakina]

If you feel like it, then you will go to war with a flintlock gun. Or just hands up the hill?
"Shilka" is an excellent thing, and will serve more ...

[Slobber]

A "silicon" gun is powerful. And Shilka can already be replaced with 30-mm Tunguska, more than. So the leavened cheers-patriotism does not channel.

[Olegovi4]

Quote: razgildyay

replace the 30 mm tung

I remember it is no longer produced.

[Slobber]

Produce, unlike this Shilka. Still, ZSU would start producing machines with quad Maxims. In general, everyone would have won.

[avia1991]

Quote: Andy

the army has more powerful and new tungusks, now shells are coming. WHAT FOR?

But why do we need weapons at all? .. And why in Russia, on railway siding, are still thousands of canned steam locomotives?
You do not recall, by the way, how many MINUTES, according to statistics, a tank lives in modern combat?
And how much industry can BBM produce in case of active hostilities? ..
"Shilka", moreover modernized, can provide serious support in the transition period of the war. And considering how the punished western warriors dream of clashing with us, the likelihood of such a development of events remains.

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: avia1991

You do not recall, by the way, how many MINUTES, according to statistics, a tank lives in modern combat?

by the way, a photograph against the background of the Reichstag stands T-34-76 with the L-11 gun, which they stopped putting on the T-34 from 41 of the year. How long did this T-34 live in the war?

[avia1991]

Quote: shasherin.pavel

How long did this T-34 live in the war?

If you trace the history of this tank, it can easily turn out that it was removed from the southern borders of the USSR in the 45th spring!
I do not presume to say for sure that not a single T-34 remained by the 45th year, which went through the whole war "from and to". Perhaps there are such machines. But do not compare that time with today: when using modern weapons in a real battle (not in a local conflict, this is a separate topic), in 1985 the tank had to survive for 7 minutes. If such a mess happened, the tank commander, who had kept the vehicle in good order, was promised without looking at the Hero of the Soviet Union ..
Since then, weapons have improved significantly, but "on both sides." I believe the virtual statistics parameters have remained at about the same level.

[Olegovi4]

Quote: Andy

she is out of date

with the same success, we can say about the T-72 that it is outdated, we don’t need to upgrade it and we don’t need it in general. BUT! Need and still serve.

[exalex2]

Interesting information. So many years in service with so many countries. And where do they get the trunks?

[Andy]

and what they’ll do is gather dust somewhere in the hangars of a car. Well they don’t shoot, the barrel doesn’t wear out.

[tommy717]

During the NATO air raid on Libya in 1986, the first Amerikosov plane was shot down precisely by Shilka. And many Shilki were not involved because of the cowardice of the locals, although for them it was an ideal field of activity. After all, most of the anti-aircraft missile divisions were simply disabled due to illiteracy and sloppiness of the local. Only those missions survived that the Libyans did not manage to arrive on time on alarm, or did not turn on the CHR transmitters.

[ia-ai00]

The developments of the Russian gunsmiths are elegant and concise, well done!
And when you look at the "newest" developments of dill, you wonder: - after all, there Were talented people ... maybe they have been in Russia for a long time? If so, then it is understandable why such "masterpieces" come out from under the dill, which cause a smile and bewilderment: - Was ist das ???

[Kadex]

ZSU-23-4 cannot be the development of Russian gunsmiths.
I don’t want to offend you, but why is this? The topic is purely about technology, and you again climb with your "dill". Not tired yet? Or do you miss him in the kitchen?

[Bayonet]

An acquaintance told me how "Shilka" worked for the militants who had settled in buildings (Grozny). Very powerful and effective!

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Bayonet

An acquaintance told me how "Shilka" worked for the militants who had settled in buildings (Grozny). Very powerful and effective!

In Chechnya, and in Afghanistan, "Shilka", the truth is very limited (in Afghanistan more often), was used as a kind of "light BMPT".

Moreover, in the DRA, our units "modernized" the ZSU, dismantling the air defense guidance systems that were not needed in those conditions, and thereby, freeing up space for additional ammunition.

[serega73]

I have already quoted here the words of our early. headquarters. He is an "Afghan", he said that an instant fuse was placed on the projectile, and then everything was carried into the trash where the line fell. The "spirits" sometimes preferred to sit quietly rather than attack the columns when they noticed the "shilka" accompanied by ..

[Olegovi4]

Quote: serega73

sit quietly, and not attack the columns when they noticed the "shilka" accompanied.

or she was number one goal.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Bayonet

"Shilka" worked on the militants entrenched in buildings

View reports from Syria last year, there are such shots.

[Oman 47]

And on ground targets how it works - ATAS, an unforgettable sight ...
I would call this unit "Saw".
Elevation angles allow the robust processing of targets in mountainous terrain.
To the south of Panj, the bearded refused to attack our columns, if this apparatus was nearby.

[the villain]

Quote: Oman 47

I would call this unit "Saw".

CRASHER

[nagel_Oz]

Well, practice is the criterion of truth. The fact that this device is still in demand and relevant in today's theater of war is evidence of the genius of the Soviet school of military equipment design. It is especially pleasant, despite its venerable age, the possibility of modernization is inherent in it. A deep bow to our Soviet engineers

[Evil Elf]

Vasily Gryazev Arkady Shipunov is simply a genius. Arms with the brand GSH standard of reliability and efficiency

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Evil elf

Vasily Gryazev Arkady Shipunov is simply a genius.

Alas, the departed ...

Know more that their business is in good hands, that there are worthy successors ...

[Kasym]

Gryazev and Shipunov have nothing to do with "Shilka", their genius is in "Tunguska" and "Pantsir".

[igor.borov775]

And in the AK Navy Cannons, everything is from there and also aviation ones. By the way, to the AK-630 their hand is also visible. They really did a lot.

[tiras85]

A cool machine. We thoroughly studied it during our cadet years. Modification is successful! Minimum costs, and the effect has multiplied. The enemies do not understand how RUSSIA "spends little" money on rearmament. The answer is simple. All equipment had a practical reserve of potential. Example. MI-8MT practical ceiling 4500m. (According to the instructions of the crew), and entered at 7000m. There, across the river ... It was so necessary to SURVIVE.

[tchoni]

they would have to propel and upgrade the towed option (well, there are all sorts of command-and-control systems, review, aiming systems) and offer an option on a car chassis ... I’m afraid that the armored base will have a small market.

[Evil Elf]

Something I do not agree with you. RPG-7 is still in demand today and I think it is forever. A simple but extremely effective weapon

[Monster_Fat]

And if you try without "hurray-patriotism"? Unfortunately, the effectiveness of the "Shilka" in modern combat against aircraft is not sufficient precisely because of the critical parameter - the insufficient caliber of its guns, and, consequently, their small reach and low accuracy. Those who are in the subject know that its competitor in the Yenisei project had a caliber of 37 mm and, accordingly, all indicators are much higher, but did not go into the series for two reasons: as then the rate of fire (a unit of metal per second) was considered more relevant and. .. "Shilka" had more lobbyists in the upper echelons of power. "Yenisei" was safely "lost", but in vain, oh, how in vain. Now the modernization of the Shilka has run into insufficient range and large dispersion in the last third of this range. An attempt to correct this drawback by four "archers" looks frivolous ... to me, I'm wondering how the creators solved the problem of "flashing" of the "archer" homing heads from hot barrels and the self-propelled gun itself? and also from shaking the platform of missiles when firing?

[rotmistr60]

And if you try without "hurray-patriotism"?

And if you try without hurray-pessimism and unfounded irony? "Shilka" can work perfectly on helicopters and UAVs, accompany the columns on the march. And for more serious aviation, there are other air defense systems. In addition, as it was written above correctly, it can be an excellent means of infantry fire support. This property was repeatedly observed in Soviet times during live firing, when one ZSU-23-4 was attached to reinforce the MSR in defense. The sight is memorable.

[Monster_Fat]

Firstly, before writing about "working with UAVs" you need to have a little idea: what modern UAVs are, their types, how they are used, at what range, about their visibility for different detection means, etc.
Secondly, where did you see the "unfounded irony"? I asked very specific questions to which I would like to receive specific answers.

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Monster_Fat

Firstly, before writing about "working with UAVs" you need to have a little idea: what modern UAVs are, their types, how they are used, at what range, about their visibility for different detection means, etc.

Somewhere, I met a video, like in the night sky, either the militias are trying to shoot a dill drone from the 23-2 memory, or the dill, on the contrary ...

"Tracks", passed by ... And the disembodied, then light up the "light", then extinguish, and as if mockingly "hangs" ...

Not the same, ZUShka has a fire density and not the same sights.

But if you use "Shilka", "lupanula", with your 23x4 ...

[dokusib]

A video about Shilka’s accuracy can be viewed here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBzRKKEeIfo I would say far from Wow

[anti-Semite]

but why bother to upgrade the shilka if there is a tunguska and shell?

[sivuch]

Davydov wrote that they tried to restore the Yeniseev’s production, but it was already too late

[Parsec]

"Illumination" from the radiation of heated barrels is excluded, the optical coordinator has a very narrow directional diagram. The contrast of radiation from the air target, background, and heated air is quite high. The sensitivity, selectivity and directional pattern of the head make it possible to provide shooting from a position, for example, on bare ground, on sand, and the like. Sand and rocky desert at noon at 10 degrees N. in the daytime, they light up so that you don't need devices to feel it. The complex shoots, it hits no worse than in the European part.

The vibrations are damped by the shock-absorbing suspension of the platform before firing and the inclusion of a tight connection before firing.

[Mikhail3]

Quote: Monster_Fat

insufficient caliber of its guns, and therefore a small reach and low accuracy.

Right. Now let's add something else to the equation. We will distract the robots from their dreams of robotic war and force them to make a modern target tracking and aiming unit. And now the accuracy has radically increased, which means that the reach has also increased. After all, what is the problem then? Is it that the projectile does not penetrate the air target? No, not that. Only that he does not fall into it.
Well, then a multi-site high-resolution video camera, a phased array radar and a computer system will make shooting with feedback really possible. That is, we shoot out fifty shells, correct them and ...
Kirdyk to enemy helicopters as soon as they enter the combat course. Forget about drone drone. No "counter-guerrilla" aircraft attacking our positions with high precision. And snipers, light caponiers, even autonomous warheads will have to be very hot!
This will be a really terrible war ...

[Gray 43]

Nice machine !!!! If it is applied, as the designers intended, it does its job well, of course it is useless and outdated, when compared with the S-400))))) In modern conflicts, it will find its niche, at least against drones, because it is expensive to bring them down with missiles will, and in terms of manpower, these installations are applied "with a bang."

[Kadex]

And when compared with a slingshot, it will be S-400.

[TanakaKenshin]

Would you still compare AKM with PL Pr.971 "Pike"

[Massik]

Weak for modernization, but if the shells with remote detonation - yes, modernization. Or replacing the guns with today's relevant 57mm.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Marssik

Now if the shells with remote detonation

Such shells, the thing is not cheap. It is terrible to imagine how many kilo rubles per second will fly out at its rate of fire!

[Massik]

Quote: Bayonet

Such shells, the thing is not cheap. It is terrible to imagine how many kilo rubles per second will fly out at its rate of fire!

Is it possible that 2-4 of these shells that hit the target are more expensive than 200-300 conventional ones? Eh, the market, the market, or something earlier — no matter how much it costs, then we must do it.

[TanakaKenshin]

Quote: Marssik

Weak for modernization, but if the shells with remote detonation - yes, modernization. Or replacing the guns with today's relevant 57mm.

It will not turn out to be an upgrade, it will turn out to be a completely new system.

[Zaurbek]

In Chechnya, Shilka shot down a Su-25. During the first war.

[a.hamster55]

If they organize ambushes on them in dangerous directions, then the helicopter will have a khan. Yes, and large drones, too.

[Monster_Fat]

Firstly, "big drones" are used at altitudes of 6-12 km, where "Shilka" is not "Irok" at all. Secondly: as soon as "Shilka" opens fire on a small drone from an "ambush", it will be immediately spotted by the "big drone" and will catch the "Helfire" or something like that. Unfortunately, many here on the forum have no idea about the state and development of the modern "battlefield" and think in terms of "Chechnya" and "Afghan".

[Bayonet]

Quote: Monster_Fat

think in terms of "Chechnya" and "Afghan".

Even more, in categories of the Civil War - Checkers bald and urya!

[Bayonet]

Quote: Bayonet

Checkers bald and Urya!

Thank you for your appreciation - made sure that he is right!

[Appraiser]

The upgrade of the ZSU 23-4M4 product is a correct "Solomon solution", since the performance characteristics of this sample fully meet the modern tasks of the air defense forces. And it should be borne in mind that Shilka has been supplied to many countries, you can make good money on this, the main thing is to offer the goods correctly.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Appraiser

The performance characteristics of this model are fully consistent with the modern tasks of air defense.

It is possible, but nevertheless this machine deserved the majority of laudations precisely when working on ground targets.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Bayonet

It is possible, but nevertheless this machine deserved the majority of laudations precisely when working on ground targets.

Come on, minus on - the warriors are sofa! Shilka live and not seen

[Parsec]

It does not meet the ZSU-23-4, even the M4, to the modern tasks of air defense, since does not provide for the defeat of most air attack weapons to the point of use of weapons.

[SSeT]

There, the SLA must first be improved. Very decent internal volumes, clogged with lamp boxes, somehow depressing very ...

[SSeT]

There a box of mini-ITX for 2-3 kilos will replace all this junk with 600 kilos with lamps easily. It’s crucial to decide, not to hang needles with an option

[Parsec]

Interesting idea. It is said that the installation of the destruction of air targets BEFORE the line of their weaponry does not provide. In response - you need to improve the OMS. Yes, the whole RPK-2 is a fire control system. The volumes are depressing ... well, put mini-ITX instead of the PSA, (by the way, this box needs a temperature control system that will provide 15 degrees C in the compartment with this ITX in two minutes at -40 and at +50 C in the compartment, here at Peltier do not get out), and vibration in the ranges from units of Hz to ultrasonic need to be extinguished; but the generation and processing of radio signals will remain the same. Or change the whole location, and hang the ADC-DAC, all the angular position sensors - there are dozens of them. And with the released volumes, the firing range will remain the same, which means see to the line of use of weapons It’s easier to make a new complex, deciding radically. Done - Tunguska.

[da Vinci]

It’s a pity you can’t hang armor - without it, using it on the battlefield for ground targets is very problematic.

[drags33]

Good machine !!! Itself does not fly and does not give to others ...

[vnord]

Well, that you have run into modernization is a budget modernization. If you collect all the changes proposed on the forum, then from Shilka one building will remain and this will be a completely new installation.

[Averias]

Here it is, in all its glory (RAE 2015).

[Volga Cossack]

appearing Shilka became a nightmare for NATO pilots - they themselves recognized this. By upgrading we get a machine that will still serve. Glory to the Soviet designers!

[Averias]

A little video from RAE-2015, a piece, "Shilka" works and then TOS-1A "Buratino". At the end "Shilka" and "Tunguska" on the observation deck. Sorry for the quality during shooting, I was shooting with my phone, with 8x digital zoom.

[Averias]

Oh, I lied, "Tunguska" is working at the test site.

[Lecha57]

As far as I know, "Shilka" is air defense, albeit outdated, but very effective. For ground targets, it is also excellent, but you do not need to stop there. I hope our engineers will bring it to perfection beyond the reach of others!

[Grigorievich]

Something in Ukraine they are not visible. Maybe missed. Or managed to sell everything.
And a friend who served on it told me about the combat work in Afghanistan: the duvals were blown away at a time.

[webcelerator]

That is why Urkainu was not accepted into NATO.
Imagine a Ukrainian warrant officer in a NATO storage warehouse.
This is Klondike!

[ALEA IACTA EST]

This is a club. Simple, reliable, deadly. And it costs only a penny.

[webcelerator]

"ZSU can deal with low-flying aircraft, including hovering," hovering aircraft ...
What did the author smoke?
Well, there Cobra Pugacheva ....
But so that low-flying aircraft crashed .....

[TanakaKenshin]

Well, technically, Harrier can hang, for example ...

[Kadex]

Shilka is undoubtedly a thing. During the Arab-Israeli war, she covered the lower echelon, where air defense systems were less effective, forcing the flyers to climb higher. But today, this is a specific thing that requires non-standard solutions. I doubt that the developers planned to use it to clear the duval or "shear" the infantry. Conversations about how the tank slips, and Shilka knocks off the whole "outfit", and amused at all. Although, in practice, the existing equipment is often used for other purposes, for example, the ZU-23, as an "anti-sniper". Or, once in my childhood I read how a Soviet pilot, having used up his ammunition, shoots from a pistol, killing the pilot of the Messerschmitt, and he, falling still hurts his bomber. Bottom line, one shot - two downed enemy aircraft. It may be a fairy tale, but it struck my memory.

[Tatarname]

Quote: Hubun

Shilka is definitely a thing !!! Somewhere I heard that a tank can stop in the forehead. Of course, it won’t take the armor, but the tank is rowing on the spot. But it’s a terrible thing against manpower in a clean field. Yes, and against aviation, it seems to me, pretty relevant. Especially in modernized versions

The Shilka tank won't stop. But it completely demolishes all dynamic protection, attachments, surveillance devices. Unless, of course, he has time and does not receive a shell from the tank.

[Old saam]

But we don’t do bad weapons. Russia's defense industry is the best in the world!

[Bayonet]

Quote: Old Sami

Russia's defense industry is the best in the world!

Why URA did not write?

[matwey]

Yes, Shilka, that is, as her perfume was called. Blackpox is a good car, but the disadvantage is that AK flashes it, so they removed the radar from it in Afghanistan and put sandbags inside, We went to Tambov for exercises, shot at planes but in the mirror in the interval 2-3 minutes of time between goals and if a well-trained crew, the defeat was 100%, and I won’t describe the details about the tanks, maybe cut in half, She’s such a favorite Shilka

[Bayonet]

Quote: matwey

maybe cut in half,

Tank ????????

[Cat man null]

Quote: matwey

the disadvantage is that AK flashes it

Yah? So is it directly "stitching"?

Quote: matwey

therefore, in Afghanistan, and removed her radar

They wrote here already: radars were removed, since the enemy had no aircraft

Quote: matwey

and sandbags were laid inside

Cool

Quote: matwey

We went to Tambov for exercises, shot

What do you need to pull for Shilka to shoot?

Quote: matwey

I won’t describe the details of tanks, maybe cut it in half

Mdya .. clinic .. minus

[webcelerator]

Quote: sabakina

then fight with a silicon gun

Kremniev? Carbonium or Lumine!

[Bayonet]

Quote: Webcelerator

Kremniev? Carbonium or Lumine!

Better - by the Chugunievs!

[webcelerator]

Cast iron - current butt.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Webcelerator

Quote: sabakina

then fight with a silicon gun

Kremniev? Carbonium or Lumine!

Educated people .. and flint is confused with silicon ..

Although, if rusty on thyristors, for example ..

[webcelerator]

You don’t know the attached equipment, you don’t know ...
Ruggio - on the belt.
And the radio is on the tank.
And look do not confuse!
And Shilka - as the experts described here - the tank cuts in two, this is a turn!

Do you have a joke "From the same material"?

[webcelerator]

Quote: matwey

, and about the tanks I won’t describe the details, maybe cut in half,

You pushed it hard! If only the PT-76 ....

[aleksandr1949]

I read a book about military operations in Chechnya. The author claims that Shilka was used against snipers hiding in houses in Grozny. They beat on the foundations of houses and the houses scattered, burying all the snipers, and grenade launchers and machine gunners with them under the rubble. After all, Chechens competently used the three fighters, consisting of a sniper, machine gunner and grenade launcher. This was known by General Rokhlin. He did not allow the columns of federal troops to advance along Grozny until they cleaned everything around. So he decided the fate of Grozny. Unlike those idiots who rode without trimming to Minutka Square and the railway station and ruined the unfortunate young boys in bundles.

[2nd 12th]

Shilka would be adapted to work on small and medium UAVs. A radar to take them and a fuse for shells with a gap at a distance. (Bushmeister already seems to have such) It would be the most! Cheap and efficient.

[anshe1764]

Quote: NOMADE

Newton is not mine, but the great scholarly heritage of mankind. On his laws of conservation of energy, all modern physics (except quantum ...) is built, and as a result, all industry, mechanics and mechanisms.

you yourself correctly answered that the bullet accelerates in the barrel and the maximum speed (and as a consequence the energy E = m * s2) at the cut of the barrel, and so at this moment there is a reaction, in this case, recoil.
Further, in flight, the speed and, as a result, the energy of the bullet / projectile falls (and is not taken from nowhere)))

And to all the minusers, I recommend re-studying the school program in physics (like there used to be a 5-7 grade program)), it’s not holy to believe Hollywood films that when a bullet hits, a person is thrown back by 2 meters))))

How long have you shot ??? It seems NEVER !!!

[Wolka]

a good thing, and with a competent approach, Shilka can also be used as fire support for infantry during the sweeping of city blocks ...

[Volga Cossack]

the question is who mined me to the comments stick ????? trolls raged ????? took for a living ???? and already Admins deal with trollism on the site - I beg you - they have a place on the Censor - not here!

[webcelerator]

Quote: NOMADE

casts a person 2 meters

As if there is an opinion, and not only mine, that when a 12.7 or 14.5 caliber bullet hits, it still drops.
As a rule - also abroad of life.

[Williamkslaksgslhfs]

# 20715 # 179873 # 19879
How to swallow tequila is presented in Mexico. They cherish the tradition of its use, which has not changed for many years. It is recommended to trust only one more drink that says - "100 percent agave".
For those who want to assess this drink, the Mexican residents are recommended to first try it, and only then fulfill the protocol about which to smell numerous - lick salt, drink a glass of tequila, eat lime. The habit of using tequila with salt so that lime is more than 70 years old. But from the very beginning, she was found, as far as a way to fight the epidemic of the "Spanish flu", which has been in Mexico.

The very first test of taquila leaves in the mouth a sensation of the real taste of the drink, which will remain in the mouth longer than if you first taste the salt on your tongue.
Some craftsmen advise eating a chili pepper before using tequila. For many beginners, these experiments can be very difficult.
There are no perfect requirements for the dishes from which to really sip tequila. For the purpose of the individual, it is convenient to eat from glasses. Lovers of beauty are matched by long, tight glasses. They are called kaballito, which means "tiny bituk". There are a couple of ways of these glasses, different sizes and shapes.
Usually, do not add anything excess (lemon, ice) to the drink with your own hands. The right drinkers of this drink drink tequila in small sips, savoring its intense agave relish.
As so that abundant alcohol, the smell in tequila will unfold during this time, as soon as it becomes a constant home temperature. Cooling can hide it. However, this is not prohibited.
There is an increased ritual of drinking tequila with tonic. Tequila is pre-poured, and there is a tonic, they drink spicy and shake it in one gulp. For them, a similar image is much better to use glasses.
In Mexico, partial, drinking a glass of tequila, prefer not to bite it with lime, but wash it down with a non-alcoholic drink - sangrita, the greatest pleasure of which gets thanks to the presence of spices inside it. And also, it has tomato juice, so orange juice.
There are many adherents who mix tequila with tonic. The glass is closed with a handle, quickly shakes with a blow on the table and is drunk in one gulp.

[sledge]

Super car!

[AAV]

Quote: NOMADE

Newton is not mine, but the great scholarly heritage of mankind. On his laws of conservation of energy, all modern physics (except quantum ...) is built, and as a result, all industry, mechanics and mechanisms.

you yourself correctly answered that the bullet accelerates in the barrel and the maximum speed (and as a consequence the energy E = m * s2) at the cut of the barrel, and so at this moment there is a reaction, in this case, recoil.
Further, in flight, the speed and, as a result, the energy of the bullet / projectile falls (and is not taken from nowhere)))

And to all the minusers, I recommend re-studying the school program in physics (like there used to be a 5-7 grade program)), it’s not holy to believe Hollywood films that when a bullet hits, a person is thrown back by 2 meters))))

Sorry, but you gave the wrong formula. E = m * s2 eno is not Newton but Einstein. Obviously you wanted to give the formula for kinetic energy (m * V ^ 2) / 2

[webcelerator]

Quote: NOMADE

And to all the minusers, I recommend re-studying the school program in physics (like there used to be a 5-7 grade program)), it’s not holy to believe Hollywood films that when a bullet hits, a person is thrown back by 2 meters))))

And here in more detail.
What happens to a fighter when a 12.7 or 14.5 bullet flies into him?
From PTRD for example, Korda, DShK or KPVT?
You say that nothing dangerous, I understand you correctly?

[okroshka79]

Dear alex86! In fact, from the theory of probability it will be correct W = 1 - (1 - 0,5) x (1 - 0,5) = 0,75. Although, in this case (only at 0,5 as a special case) the final result coincides.

[webcelerator]

Quote: TanakaKenshin

Well, technically, Harrier can hang, for example ...

Rare Harrier will fly to the middle of the Day ....
Ugh. To places where Shilka may be.
She will tear it on the British flag, sorry for my English ...

[webcelerator]

By the way, offhand a couple more application options.
From cruise missiles, the Tomahawks are still not so inconspicuous and fast, but they fly low - to chop the very thing.
Or in the mode of radio silence and good camouflage on the ground - ambushes on aircraft with external target designation at the beginning. Or helicopters, or rather.
Apaches are going on the smallest, the outer radar has detected them, and it has been given to whom to meet.
Although Apache is armored, it’s not omnipotent. And the Arrow to his Bochin will not hurt so much.
Yes, and in the desert for 5 km, to drive Toyota Mujahideen without admitting to the guarded object is a nice thing.

[Parsec]

What are you going to dragon? For ground targets 1,5 km.

5 km is the far boundary of the zone of destruction of the Needle, which does not work on ground targets.

[Fibrizio]

Something strongly I doubt that someone flies low in Syria. Secondly, there are not so many radars. In short it is doubtful. I would also understand fly there helicopters. And so, from 10 meters they hit you, and that’s it. And then below is full of idiots with MANPADS.

[Parsec]

Quote: Fibrizio

And so, from 10 meters they hit you, and that’s it.

What did you enter and where did you get from 10 m?

[webcelerator]

Quote: Parsec

What are you going to dragon? For ground targets 1,5 km.

At distances exceeding 2500 m, shooting at air targets is ineffective and is allowed only for self-defense. It takes 3000 seconds to fly 23 m, 6-mm Shilka shells.
===================================
Maximum firing range
2000 m
Minimum firing range
200 m
==================================
The Shilka self-propelled gun can also be used to destroy moving ground targets at a range of up to 2000 meters.
==================================

And this is only the range of a direct shot. Sighting. On the ground, it’s not a fact that an infantry fighting vehicle will be able to roach faster than Shilka can do it.
http://army-news.ru/2012/06/zsu-23-4-shilka-ona-plenila-39-gosudarstv/

[Parsec]

Shilka's direct shot range is 1100 m.
Read the technical specifications, at least at the table level you will have an idea of ​​what you are talking about.

When was the last time you fired from a ZSU-23-4xx?

[Parsec]

Quote: Shuttle

Quote: dkflbvbh

Moreover, under Soviet rule, they delivered missiles and called them "Tunguska"

It’s all wrong, Comrade Lieutenant Colonel!
Shilka: 4 × 23-mm
Tunguska: 2 x 30 mm

Tunguska 4*30 mm. Finally.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Parsec

Tunguska 4*30 mm. Finally

Fuck it...

Caliber and brand of gun 2 × 30-mm 2A38

[Parsec]

2A38 - 30 mm anti-aircraft gun, consisting of two barrels with one feed mechanism from a common belt and one firing mechanism, alternately working with the left and right barrel.

Enlarge the picture and look carefully.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Parsec

consisting of two barrels with one feed mechanism from a common belt and one firing mechanism, alternately working with the left and right barrel

Yeah... thanks, I didn't know.

[webcelerator]

Quote: avia1991

in 1985, the tank had to survive for 7 minutes. If such a mess happened, the tank commander who preserved a serviceable vehicle in battle would be promised a Hero of the Soviet Union without even looking...

In those years, our tank armadas had to reach the English Channel.
This will obviously take more than 7 minutes.
So you have some incorrect information.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Webcelerator

in 1985, a tank had to survive for 7 minutes

There was such a figure. We were told 6-8. I have never seen this figure officially anywhere, only in words.

It related directly to combat (this is when they shoot at you), and ...

Quote: Webcelerator

should have reached the English Channel

... and there is also such a thing as a “march”. There the tank “lives” much longer.

[webcelerator]

Quote: Parsec

When was the last time you fired from a ZSU-23-4xx?

My VUS is very different.

[Parsec]

Those. You have no idea about a direct shot, but you declare.

Boldly.

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[Gost171]

at least 95 percent on the target, the destruction radius of the OFZT is 15 m, the tank will not stop but will become unusable shoots -16 per second from each barrel Guys, don’t touch my car