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Kirby: the work of American intelligence in Syria cannot be called a failure

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Moscow did not warn Washington about plans to increase its military presence in Syria, but American intelligence did not allow failures in this matter, reports RIA News message from State Department spokesman John Kirby.


Kirby: the work of American intelligence in Syria cannot be called a failure


“I wouldn’t completely describe it this way,” Kirby told a journalist who asked whether “the situation in Syria can be considered a failure of US intelligence, by analogy with the September 11 attacks of 2001.”

“We are very closely monitoring the situation, and we are well aware of what appeared there and how it appeared there,” he added, referring to “the Russian military presence from Syria.”

However, to a direct question whether the United States knew about the plans of the Russians in the UAR, Kirby did not give a clear answer.

“It’s not that they call and say," Hey, we are going to do it. " There was no warning in advance. And I do not think that there were any expectations on this score (from the USA), ”said the representative of the diplomatic mission.
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  1. valday
    valday 25 September 2015 11: 33 New
    +12
    Of course, it is impossible to consider such a gang as the IS prepared and armed as a failure.
    1. anEkeName
      anEkeName 25 September 2015 11: 39 New
      +6
      Moscow did not warn Washington about plans to increase its military presence in Syria, but American intelligence did not allow failures in this matter ...

      ... as is the case with Crimea.
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      2. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 25 September 2015 11: 41 New
        +8
        Amerikos intelligence quickly received data from social networks. So her work is not a failure. Analysts hesitated. Apparently, such conclusions are supported by the official version.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 25 September 2015 11: 45 New
          +4
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Amerikos intelligence quickly received data from social networks


          Well, yes, well, yes ... and here we throw them so much information ... the computers are hanging ... laughing
        2. ferdiperdozzz
          ferdiperdozzz 25 September 2015 12: 12 New
          +2
          Well, on Facebook they didn’t write in advance.
          And Medvedev forbade GDP to write to Twitter, here is intelligence and found out only in fact :)))
      3. Sterlya
        Sterlya 25 September 2015 11: 57 New
        0
        US intelligence is the highest paid. it is a fact. But. and only.
      4. Now we are free
        Now we are free 25 September 2015 12: 05 New
        +2
        I apologize for the offtopic.

        News from the Geroslavs:
        "The Cockerel" against the "Alco-President" or Mosiychuk is not Savchenko for you ...
    2. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 25 September 2015 11: 42 New
      +2
      The birth of sadistic groups, murderers and mutants in the territories of bombed countries is a great success for the Yankees! The technology of their education has been perfected by them to perfection, and then lies, the appointment of the perpetrators, cynicism and dirt on the sides! am
    3. vkl-47
      vkl-47 25 September 2015 11: 45 New
      +1
      What a stupid deer he is, this Kirby. Like all mattress
    4. Siberia55
      Siberia55 25 September 2015 11: 51 New
      +1
      As always, "Dumb" includes)))
    5. marlin1203
      marlin1203 25 September 2015 11: 52 New
      +1
      "The situation is under control - everyone screwed up!" laughing
    6. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 25 September 2015 12: 21 New
      0
      And the failure in Syria, if they leaked the Old directly from Moscow?
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 September 2015 11: 37 New
    +4
    “It’s not that they are calling and saying,“ Hey, we are going to do it. ” There was no warning in advance

    It turns out that the Americans believe that it is better for them to call and warn about their plans. And so I had to find out the news from the Internet. Only where they screw it up, immediately a million excuses and a failure for the media, like a victory.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 25 September 2015 11: 41 New
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      There was no warning in advance


      And Putin is still silent, like partisans :: see, he prepares a good present for the Yankees in his report ...
    2. Login_Off
      Login_Off 25 September 2015 12: 09 New
      0
      Firstly, to find out whether they are going to send or not, here, first, analysts must work. That is, analysts say, "Perhaps the Russians can help Syria with weapons, up to sending advisers," Then the intelligence begins to give the agency a task, take a closer look at Syria (see above) ...
      And here it turns out that Kirby admits that the analysts have him ... e, but the intelligence did not give the task.
      Damn, this is generally the right hand does not know what the left is doing, but both hands are also from the ass!
  3. vorobey
    vorobey 25 September 2015 11: 37 New
    +4
    I didn’t understand what he said ... except for the phrase that he would not describe something there ...

    I recalled a phrase from one movie ... last time when I tasted it seemed to me that gophers read my thoughts ...

    in general, all these expressions are faceless and I need half-hints to hide my professional cant ... of course you can’t call it a failure ... again about ... whether ... like in Crimea ..
    1. ROD VDVshny
      ROD VDVshny 25 September 2015 11: 50 New
      +8
      Not on the topic of the article, but on the topic of our reality lol
      The only Pskov deputy from Yabloko Schlosberg deprived of the mandate
      Yesterday, after reading this news, I gladly raised a glass for the “solid and consistent path” of the main burial worker and mud-raiser of the 76th division from the Pskov region of Schlossberg lol good At first he got his head shot, now they kicked him out of the deputies like a shitty cat
      http://www.tvc.ru/news/show/id/77185
      1. vsoltan
        vsoltan 25 September 2015 12: 25 New
        +1
        Off-topic…. It seems that the GDP has slowly begun to "clean up" ... I wonder what peaks the glomerulus will unwind to? In Komi, the mayor of Syktyvkar was already tied up ... a little pig, but nice ...
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 25 September 2015 12: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: vsoltan
          a little pig, but nice ...


          we have after the Weaver delicately removed by moving upstairs, everyone is also cancer ... you just catch the news there is a judge there, the deputy head is on fraud with the ground ... that’s why the offended will be added ...
          1. vsoltan
            vsoltan 25 September 2015 17: 05 New
            0
            Well, you can’t do without offended people, but only Zverev was nice to everyone ... laughing
  4. hydrox
    hydrox 25 September 2015 11: 37 New
    +2
    === "It is not that they are calling and saying," Hey, we are going to do this. " There was no warning in advance. And I don’t think that there were any expectations (in the USA), ”said the representative of the diplomatic service. ===

    Well, and this can’t be called otherwise than the CIA was “PLEASED” and set up its smoked president: he will spin like Psaki now - he cannot say anything intelligible!
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  6. morpogr
    morpogr 25 September 2015 11: 38 New
    +2
    This is not a failure; this is a complete scribe for what they arranged in Syria.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 September 2015 11: 39 New
    +3
    This is not even a failure. This is the lack of any work in the region. The fact that massive assistance to Assad came as a surprise to the mattress can be understood by the tonality of the squeal that they raised about this.
  8. vovanpain
    vovanpain 25 September 2015 11: 39 New
    +10
    Of course, you must first blink everything, and then say something. This is our intelligence that won both in the Crimea and in Syria. This pink-cheeked little babe now wants to pass off as wishful thinking.
  9. Grbear
    Grbear 25 September 2015 11: 40 New
    +1
    It looks like Putin’s "speech" is being prepared by Monday. "Missing" weekend ... bully
  10. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 25 September 2015 11: 42 New
    +2
    in short, it is becoming increasingly clear that American films with excessive heroization and superheroism of Americans are just plain crap. If an American sees a real real rival, he immediately merges. Therefore, they are a country that can only crush a trifle on the planet, but with real rivals, it is only possible to clinch.

    with all their surveillance and wiretaps and multi-billion dollar investments, they have a mistake by mistake .. then Snowden either terrorist attacks ... or Ferguson escaped ... Crimea didn’t oversleep for a whole week, but satellites then poked))) well, what’s the use of satellites? ))) And Obama will lose Syria.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 25 September 2015 11: 56 New
      +8
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      . Therefore, they are a country that can only crush a trifle on the planet but with real rivals maximum only in clinch.


      what kind of clinch is there ... he told me how the NATO inspection came to us .. it was shitty 95 year .. they knew that our 126 Dibo would be cut so they brought different kinds of shells to us to Perevalnoye .. And then, the NATO inspectors were snoring .. a Dutchman, a Belgian, two Germans and two amers ... went to the pits all sniffed their noses ... Europeans said something adequate, you can, you can not, then you can’t ... but the Americans .. I represented my company in boxing .. except the two training machines are all glued up ... they said you can’t open it .. so while one amer spoke to me the second behind my back and already glues it and climbed under the fabric .. but for me at least it’s already shining for such a star, well, I put it in my hearts in the shin from the leg is vile so that no one can see ... he already howled .. and looks around complaining ... and the Germans stand and defiantly turn away smiling at the same time ... he pushed it out gently shaking it while he himself hit when he climbed to unnecessary .. and got away with it ... not a word from showed
      1. noWAR
        noWAR 25 September 2015 12: 13 New
        +1
        Accept verbal thanks for the act. good
      2. AdekvatNICK
        AdekvatNICK 25 September 2015 12: 44 New
        +1
        it is a pity there is no such opportunity for a living American to kick.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 25 September 2015 12: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: AdekvatNICK
          it is a pity there is no such opportunity for a living American to kick.


          I was struck by the reaction of the Germans ... how much they disdain for them ... allies ..
    2. Svyatogor
      Svyatogor 25 September 2015 11: 58 New
      +4
      To the topic of the heroization of the Americans.
  11. Maksus
    Maksus 25 September 2015 11: 44 New
    +1
    “I wouldn’t completely describe it this way,” Kirby told a journalist who asked whether “the situation in Syria can be considered a failure of US intelligence, by analogy with the September 11 attacks of 2001.”

    Of course I would not, how can I describe what is not? US intelligence - it sounds alarming ....
  12. Riv
    Riv 25 September 2015 11: 46 New
    0
    Wouldn't I call U.S. intelligence? And then I'm going to go to shit, like: "Hey guys! I'm going to do it." No, I probably won’t. Can not understand.
  13. sinukvl
    sinukvl 25 September 2015 11: 47 New
    0
    Kirby: the work of American intelligence in Syria cannot be called a failure
    I completely agree, the actions of American intelligence is not work, it is the appearance of work.
  14. roskot
    roskot 25 September 2015 11: 48 New
    0
    There is nothing like leather.
  15. Babai Balkan
    Babai Balkan 25 September 2015 11: 52 New
    +2
    and I am reporting to the CIA that there is the possibility of Obama meeting with Vladimir Vladimirovich in the near future (ESPECIALLY SUCHRICHNO "!!!!
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 25 September 2015 12: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: Babai Balkan
      and I am reporting to the CIA that there is the possibility of Obama meeting with Vladimir Vladimirovich in the near future (ESPECIALLY SUCHRICHNO "!!!!


      but I even know the date and also reported already ... tongue
  16. DV69
    DV69 25 September 2015 11: 54 New
    0
    “It’s not that they are calling and saying,“ Hey, we are going to do it. ” There was no warning in advance. And I don’t think that there were any expectations (in the USA) ”


    Rave! And they still wonder why Ukrainian politicians make such delusional statements. What curators are such and wards.
  17. Izotovp
    Izotovp 25 September 2015 11: 57 New
    +1
    They are achieving their goals in this region with success. They needed the chaos and surge of terrorism on the other side of the planet. And about the Syrian Express, they are in the know just can not interfere. And Europe is bending down qualitatively. They just have their own goals, but they won’t tell everyone about it))))
  18. Azitral
    Azitral 25 September 2015 12: 00 New
    0
    They did not expect. Ours, in my opinion, never hid Assad’s support (or rather, at least some legitimate order in Syria). And a surprise in the Crimea, it’s generally something with something: Putin FIRST AND ONLY time asks for permission to use troops abroad in the Duma and Senate. To the whole world. WHAT FOR? And then the green men, - quite unexpectedly - find themselves in the Crimea. Imagine what the Führer would have said to Canaris and Schellenberg after such surprises. No, it’s better not to even imagine. Apparently, there is no intelligence intelligence in Russia at all, since there is no idea how the average Russian from Voronezh "breathes" at all. Samara, Irkutsk, on what he hopes, and what he is ready for. Either the level of work is really lower than the plinth, or we overestimate ourselves, and they really do not care. Too not worthy of attention.
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 25 September 2015 12: 21 New
      0
      . Azitral Imagine what the Führer would have said to Canaris and Schellenberg after such surprises. No, it’s better not to even imagine. So he said. If my memory serves me right, it seems like since 1943 the Canaris guys disbanded. They also said that. We knew that the strike would be there, but did not manage to warn in time. But we knew about it. laughing hi
      1. ARES623
        ARES623 25 September 2015 13: 47 New
        0
        Quote: Kil 31
        Azitral Imagine what the Führer would have said to Canaris and Schellenberg after such surprises. No, it’s better not to even imagine. So he said. If my memory serves me right, it seems like since 1943 the Canaris guys disbanded. They also said that. We knew that the strike would be there, but did not manage to warn in time. But we knew about it.

        The Führer, Canaris, Shelenberg - this is all history, but it must be studied.
        The American researcher J. Rainlough, referring to the assessment of the state of analytical work in the secret services and political interference in intelligence affairs, points out, as a classic example, the conflicts that constantly arose during the Second World War between “political creators” and intelligence in fascist Germany. “Fascinated by his ideas for creating a German empire,” writes Rainlough, “Hitler did not want to believe intelligence reports based on irrefutable evidence that indicated Germany’s inevitable defeat.
        Or here is what H. Felfe, one of the employees of the Nazi security service, who we already referred to, writes about this: “When the alarming information arrived, the management — Himmler, Ribbentrop, Hitler — simply did not want to believe them and did not take them seriously. He believed only what fit into his own pre-arranged picture. Information that runs counter to it was discarded as false, like misinformation of the enemy. ”
        And the Fuhrer hung Canaris not for failures in work, but because he became accomplices of a conspiracy against him. From personal hostile relationships. And no tricks.
    2. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 25 September 2015 12: 21 New
      0
      It is clear that it is not easy for everyone now. But military intelligence does not do this. There are other departments for this.
  19. Abbra
    Abbra 25 September 2015 12: 03 New
    +1
    An amazing property: he said something, but WHAT is not clear ...
  20. sl22277
    sl22277 25 September 2015 12: 08 New
    +1
    The ISIS you created has become uncontrollable, here is the failed intelligence work. Arrogance and complacency are a major mistake.
  21. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 25 September 2015 12: 18 New
    +1
    Interestingly, does striped intelligence know about the future plans of the Islamic State in relation to their country?
  22. gelezo47
    gelezo47 25 September 2015 12: 27 New
    0
    The mattresses were laid back again, but do not want to admit it ...
  23. Rossiyanin
    Rossiyanin 25 September 2015 12: 48 New
    0
    It was necessary for our special services to openly call on the mobile phone to the CIA and inform us that we were going to Syria, because the Yankees were not worth disgracing like that, just like "colleagues."
  24. Rossiyanin
    Rossiyanin 25 September 2015 12: 52 New
    0
    It was necessary for our special services to openly call on the mobile phone to the CIA and inform us that we were going to Syria, because the Yankees were not worth disgracing like that, just like "colleagues."
    Quote: Now we are free
    News from the Geroslavs:
    "The Cockerel" against the "Alco-President" or Mosiychuk is not Savchenko for you ...

    I don’t understand how it can be called the state of Ukraine ?!
  25. morozik
    morozik 25 September 2015 13: 04 New
    +3
    Reconnaissance data
  26. iouris
    iouris 25 September 2015 13: 22 New
    0
    US intelligence in Syria is following the Russians.
  27. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 25 September 2015 14: 21 New
    0
    call a failure
    Notice the end - we didn’t say that! ..
  28. beer-youk
    beer-youk 25 September 2015 16: 11 New
    0
    In my understanding, this message translated into normal language looks something like this: "Guys, we are not like in Hollywood films, in fact we are ignoramuses, suckers and bullshit!"! Something like this.
  29. afrikanez
    afrikanez 25 September 2015 16: 27 New
    0
    intelligence failures in this matter did not allow
    And the air raids and the bombing of the wrong positions - this they probably called successful intelligence. fool They don’t want to admit their failure and that's it, like small children.
    1. Jan Ivanov
      Jan Ivanov 26 September 2015 15: 00 New
      0
      What is this failure for them? It would be a failure if they bombed their Ishilovites, and that’s all they wanted: the partisans were safe, and the soldiers received for the military operation, and an imitation of the struggle for the public. Yes, I suppose, and money was shaken from the Isis for the fact that they missed.
      As usual, purely business.
  30. Oman 47
    Oman 47 25 September 2015 21: 17 New
    0
    Quote: vorobey
    Quote: vsoltan
    a little pig, but nice ...


    we have after the Weaver delicately removed by moving upstairs, everyone is also cancer ... you just catch the news there is a judge there, the deputy head is on fraud with the ground ... that’s why the offended will be added ...


    Colleague, have you in the Kubanshchina Vyselki and the area in Tkachevo or Great Weavers not renamed yet?
    Did the family buy only one district, or did they grab the neighboring Tikhoretsky and Pavlovsky identities?
  31. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 28 September 2015 11: 32 New
    0
    Well, this is of course a masterpiece, in the fight against ISIS, follow the Russians and provide the militants with high-quality satellite images. Counted everything to the nearest unity. At the same time claiming that their interest in Syria in the fight against ISIS.
    But in Ukraine - repeatedly asserting the incursions of Russian Armed Forces columns into the territory of dill, the United States never presented a single fact of their presence.
    Even oddly interesting they have "non-core" intelligence.