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The Russian government has set a new gas price for Ukraine

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The official website of the Russian government reports that the head of the Cabinet Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree on the level of "winter" gas prices for Ukraine. On the eve that Ukraine will most likely receive an 20-dollar discount, Energy Minister Novak said. On government portal the exact value of the price is not given, instead, the following wording is published:


According to the decree, the price of gas for Ukraine is set at the level of gas prices for the countries of the European Union adjacent to Ukraine.
This regulation applies to legal relations arising from 1 in October 2015 of the year and valid until 31 in December of 2015.


The Russian government has set a new gas price for Ukraine


If Novak’s statement on the 20-dollar discount was truthful, Ukraine will receive Russian gas in the nearest quarter at a price of around 232 dollars per 1 thousand cubic meters. Ukrainian authorities insisted that the price of 1 thousand cubic meters of gas should be less than 230 dollars.

Recall that the decision on discounts is made by the Russian government at a time when Kiev supports the radical action on the so-called “blockade” of the Crimea.
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  1. igor1981
    igor1981 25 September 2015 06: 42 New
    +19
    These blackmailers dill already got ...
    1. kocclissi
      kocclissi 25 September 2015 06: 55 New
      +8
      Or maybe the keys to the apartment, where the money is?
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 25 September 2015 07: 16 New
        +12
        The gas price for the population of the Perm Territory is today 77.12 am.dol. for 1000 cbm Well, our gas! If Ukrainians want cheaper gas, let them produce it themselves ...
        1. IGMIT
          IGMIT 25 September 2015 07: 19 New
          +6
          How to produce gas, ass torn.
          1. DanSabaka
            DanSabaka 25 September 2015 11: 07 New
            0
            here, there .... let the asses get gas ...
        2. Now we are free
          Now we are free 25 September 2015 09: 41 New
          +17
          I venture to grab a lot of minuses, but as they say -Plato is my friend but the truth is dearer...
          If we are talking about politics (her mother ... this policy), then emotions, albeit righteous, alas, it is necessary to reject emotions in this matter is a very bad adviser. Four factors because of which Russia is still playing punts with the Huntoloid ...

          1). "Energomost" in Crimea is being built and will be put into operation as a last resort until December this month (we are waiting for it to be commissioned).
          2). The agreement on "SP 2" is signed (Greetings from Germany who delivered r ... m all Mladoevropeyskih Russophobia wassat ) (we wait when it will be put into operation)
          3). The bridge to the Crimea is being built, albeit at an accelerated pace, but is still being built (we are waiting for it to be commissioned). Although there is already a long-standing alternative on this issue, the Ferry Crossing which provides excellent access to the Crimea and there is no other Butchert that Kiev expects and will not (Times of 2014 with traffic jams and unsettled logistics are already behind). The “Double strike” from Mejelis / PS looks especially ridiculous in blocking Ukro-goods to the Crimea, which even further alienates the market relations of the Crimea with Geroslav.
          4). If Ukraine does not buy gas from us, it will buy it in the EU (albeit at fabulous prices, but as they say in spite of Mos.kalyam I’ll freeze my ears) to which they will be given loans by Friends of Ukraine dropping it even more in debt. And now Russia still has the opportunity to pull back the "Hunts" with the help of a carrot in the form of a discount.

          I repeat - With all the negative comments on the gas discount for Ukraine, I will agree if paragraphs 1, 3 and 2 are brought to the end (put into operation) and Russia continues to sharpen Lyasy with the "Junta". Then I’ll be the first to spit on the “Ivy” policy of the Kremlin.

          In the meantime, emotions overboard, planning and painstaking work on the energy independence and transport independence of the Crimea, dropping the "Gas Parasites" from the pro-fascist former Ukraine from their shoulders.

          P.S. On the photo "Energomost" in the Crimea. Soon guys, soon ... wink
          1. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 25 September 2015 10: 04 New
            +7
            It annoys me, and not only me, that “over the hill” discounts are provided for some, but for the domestic consumer, discounts are only for the greater. Thoughts from this are bad swarm in the head, confusion can occur. But I would not want to, because Russia got these very troubles. am
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 25 September 2015 11: 52 New
              +6
              Quote: Black Colonel
              It annoys me, and not only me, that “over the hill” some discounts are provided, but for the domestic consumer - discounts only for the greater

              Here we look:

              Quote: Dembel 77
              The gas price for the population of the Perm Territory is today 77.12 amd for 1000 cbm

              Which is three times lower than for Ukraine with all the discounts. Where else to "throw off" is proposed? belay

              And that this price is periodically raised (and not at times, by the way) - since no one has yet canceled inflation, they themselves at one time wanted capitalism, eat it, don’t slap it .. request
            2. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 25 September 2015 13: 36 New
              +2
              Quote: Black Colonel
              Thoughts from this are bad swarm in the heads, confusion can occur.

              So throw them out of my head these vague thoughts.
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          2. sancho
            sancho 25 September 2015 13: 35 New
            +4
            All is well said. Partly agree with you. But! Have but!

            1. Now we can cope without the Energy Bridge, more difficult-Yes!
            2. Dill to us by the end of the year owe $ 3 billion. But, something tells me that they will not give everything!
            3. PARISENKA marks in NATO, not today, so tomorrow NATO bases and reconnaissance equipment will appear in Dill;
            4. Trade relations with the Maydauns have been reduced to zero;
            5. We pay for gas transit to Geyropa without discounts ... why for some reason ????
            6. PARTY imposed sanctions on Russian banks ??!?!?
            5. And, much more ...

            Actually! Why the hell did they play spools with them?
            - 3 yards in the ass to return!
            - The price of gas, like everyone else!
            - Fat eat yourself, stop all kinds of trade relations!
            - The whole business of key figures of Dill to kill in Russia!
            “And you can still think of a lot of different things!”

            Stop liberalizing!

            That's just unsubscribed and AGAIN news - Gazprom will not apply the take or pay condition to Naftogaz in winter - http://ria.ru/economy/20150925/1281104369.html

            DEAR GDP AND LADY !! WELL (in the literal sense) PRIDE AND CONSCIENCE BEFORE OWN CITIZENS?!?!? AAA ??
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 25 September 2015 14: 39 New
              0
              This will fly away .. again:

              Quote: sancho
              1. Now we can cope without the Energy Bridge, more difficult-Yes!

              - “we cope” due to the fact that electricity is supplied from Ukraine. No other options yet.

              Quote: sancho
              2. Dill to us by the end of the year owe 3 billion. $. But, something tells me that they will not give everything

              - I do not know what you and what prompts. My advice - do not worry, specially trained people are engaged in this (the duty of Ukraine)

              Quote: sancho
              3. The PARTY marks in NATO, not today, so tomorrow NATO bases and intelligence will appear in Dill.

              - for the hundredth time and a capsule - COUNTRIES HAVING TERRITORIAL DISPUTES DO NOT ACCEPT NATO. According to the charter of this organization. Ukraine has Crimea. "Goodbye, NATO"

              Quote: sancho
              4., 5., 6., 5. And much more ...

              There are no words laughing

              Quote: sancho
              It’s just unsubscribed and AGAIN news - Gazprom will not apply the take or pay condition to Naftogaz in winter

              This news a couple of years already, at least .. sclerosis, or what?

              Quote: sancho
              AAA ??

              Damn .. get drunk .. kerosene, and begin to rub for the economy .. ugh .. fool
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    2. Finches
      Finches 25 September 2015 07: 17 New
      +17
      If they don’t want to declare war because of fear- “what will all progressive mankind say”, then they could wait a bit with gas discounts!
    3. revnagan
      revnagan 25 September 2015 08: 42 New
      +1
      So go ahead, straighten their brains. It's high time.
      1. ArhipenkoAndrey
        ArhipenkoAndrey 25 September 2015 08: 51 New
        +4
        Yes, the outskirts, in the person of the guarantor Parashenka, declared our country an enemy, and the prime minister again signed privileges for the enemies, and talking that the people are not guilty is a lie, talk to this people and learn a lot about yourself, from the outside Medvedev is the purest altruism at the expense of Russia, the preferential price should be twice as much as that of the enemy, and this would be the most sobering shower for the outskirts of the Fuhrer in the fever of Maidan so far.
        1. yushch
          yushch 25 September 2015 09: 15 New
          -1
          Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
          Yes, the outskirts, in the person of the guarantor Parashenka, declared our country an enemy, and the prime minister again signed privileges for the enemies, and talking that the people are not guilty is a lie, talk to this people and learn a lot about yourself, from the outside Medvedev is the purest altruism at the expense of Russia, the preferential price should be twice as much as that of the enemy, and this would be the most sobering shower for the outskirts of the Fuhrer in the fever of Maidan so far.


          You are certainly right in your conclusions. But if you look at the long term, any refusal of supplies from the side of Russia will be instantly used by the junta as a fact of confirmation of their lies about the Russian threat to Ukraine. It is clear that brainwashing in Ukraine works brilliantly, but if you wish, information about discounts can also be obtained in Western media. Almost all actions of the Hohlohunta are aimed at provoking Russia, they will simply be happy if we conduct ourselves. Therefore, such decisions of our leadership unpopular for us in the short term will give excellent results in the long term.
          1. ArhipenkoAndrey
            ArhipenkoAndrey 25 September 2015 09: 26 New
            +4
            And here’s the calculation that we won’t behave and still give the next freebie, and this will be advertised as a victory of the Great Ukrainians on lousy moskaly - it's 100%. It seems to me good to go on the subject of tolerance, and is it not time then for our citizens to make a discount on gas, on gasoline that is constantly getting more expensive, but there is only one conclusion - discounts for hostile, at the moment, Ukraine at the expense of Russians are taking place, we pay in the literal sense warm winter for people who hate us.
            1. yushch
              yushch 25 September 2015 09: 47 New
              +2
              Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
              And here’s the calculation that we won’t behave and still give the next freebie, and this will be advertised as a victory of the Great Ukrainians on lousy moskaly - it's 100%. It seems to me good to go on the subject of tolerance, and is it not time then for our citizens to make a discount on gas, on gasoline that is constantly getting more expensive, but there is only one conclusion - discounts for hostile, at the moment, Ukraine at the expense of Russians are taking place, we pay in the literal sense warm winter for people who hate us.


              You are right in your reasoning, but we see the situation from the point of view of the lieutenant, and at the top the vision of the situation is completely different, like that of the front commander. This is due to the different volumes of information available to us and our management. Sometimes, from the point of view of the lieutenant, what the commander does seems absurd, but the commander sees this situation differently.
              P.S. I want to add the following, my 83-year-old grandmother lives in Kiev, a Great Patriotic War veteran and my cousin, and not my only relatives live there, now do you offer them to freeze in the winter because of the morons in power in Kiev?
              1. yushch
                yushch 25 September 2015 10: 41 New
                0
                Forgive me for 89 years. Children of war who were in occupied territories are equated with veterans of the Great Patriotic War.
        2. captain
          captain 25 September 2015 09: 33 New
          +1
          I honestly do not understand the people who are outraged here. The rulers of Russia accustomed Ukraine to discounts (i.e., freebies). Remember, during the time of Yeltsin and Putin’s first term, they sold gas to them cheaper than in the EU and by a lot. They resold this gas to Europe cheaper than our Gazprom and had good money on it. Why did we do this? If we talk about helping the fraternal people, then why aren't we helping now? If we say that they became Russophobes and whether they repay us with black ingratitude, then where did our Foreign Ministry and our famous analysts look? Why didn’t we create a Russian diaspora in Ukraine and work with Russian public organizations? Why didn’t we make a map of the Russian (not only for Russians, but also for other indigenous peoples of Russia in Ukraine), did the Hungarians and a number of other states create. All these blunders say about the absence of our sane policy in the CIS countries. Maybe something else? They did not want to sell us their gas transportation system and we decided to punish them? But you can punish in other ways. There are many and different. Maybe someone had a lot of money on this and all this suited our political and financial elite? Why are we now making a discount of $ 20, but not $ 5? Do we have pensioners who go on holiday to the Canaries and eat the highest quality products? We have nowhere to give money? Who can answer me intelligibly to my questions?
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        4. provincial
          provincial 25 September 2015 12: 08 New
          +1
          Now we need to think who is the steeper enemy of Russia. And again, the party of Dima won the election. When and who will think?
          1. provincial
            provincial 25 September 2015 12: 51 New
            +1
            that minus sign pains to read the truth?
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 25 September 2015 13: 12 New
              -2
              The most important joke in this situation is that utilities and gas services, incl. for the population in fascist Kakliya lower than in the provocatively democratic RF .. Paradox.
              Come on Dimon, burn Dimon, and we will suffer, terpily, damn it.
    4. Drmadfisher
      Drmadfisher 25 September 2015 11: 50 New
      +1
      once again called us enemies, and we give them a discount, where is pride?
  2. Loner_53
    Loner_53 25 September 2015 06: 43 New
    +15
    Bags under the eyes, I probably didn’t sleep the night, I thought how could I cover the discount for partners and people.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 September 2015 06: 46 New
      +16
      Quote: Loner_53
      Bags under the eyes, I probably didn’t sleep the night, I thought how could I cover the discount for partners and people.

      Well, yes, here Medvedev makes decisions, Putin doesn’t know.
      1. Loner_53
        Loner_53 25 September 2015 07: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well, yes, here Medvedev makes decisions, Putin doesn’t know.

        So this, he’s in a quiet place, and he doesn’t say anything to Putin, like “surprise” smile
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 September 2015 07: 18 New
          +3
          Quote: Loner_53
          So this, he’s in a quiet place, and doesn’t say anything to Putin, such as “surprise”

          Yeah, Vova, I made a discount for Ukraine and already signed everything tongue Like yes?
          1. Loner_53
            Loner_53 25 September 2015 07: 24 New
            0
            Wow, wow smile
        2. Tra-ta-ta
          Tra-ta-ta 25 September 2015 09: 42 New
          0
          Faced: Bloody Panda - Poroshenko and Toothless Tiger-Medvedev ...
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 25 September 2015 06: 55 New
      +14
      Quote: Loner_53
      I probably didn’t sleep at night, I thought how could I get a discount for partners and after the people

      Already done. Gas prices (and not only) for the population have been raised. Discount only to Ukraine.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 25 September 2015 07: 11 New
        +4
        Quote: EvgNik
        . Gas prices (and not only) for the population raised

        And how much? There are higher tariffs for the Perm Territory.
        Quote: EvgNik
        Discount only to Ukraine.

        Not at all, the discounts are real, only for Ukraine. For the population of Ukraine, gas prices will be such as if gas is delivered to the moon from them.
        1. atalef
          atalef 25 September 2015 07: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And how much?

          in Ukraine, the same was raised, 7 times a year
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          For the population of Ukraine, gas prices will be such as if gas is delivered to the moon from them.

          The prices are approximately the same, the father-in-law has a house with a gas boiler, 6 rooms, 2 floors, everything about everything i.e. cooking and heating in the winter (maybe in the summer it’s the whole penny even taking into account a 7-fold increase) comes out somewhere around 400 hryvnias per month i.e. --- 20 bucks - that's it.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 25 September 2015 07: 20 New
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            it turns out somewhere 400 hryvnia per month i.e.

            Is it in the summer?
            1. atalef
              atalef 25 September 2015 15: 45 New
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Is it in the summer?

              No - it's winter, Sanya, I wrote
          2. APASUS
            APASUS 25 September 2015 07: 33 New
            +5
            Quote: atalef
            The prices are approximately the same, the father-in-law has a house with a gas boiler, 6 rooms, 2 floors, everything about everything i.e. cooking and heating in the winter (maybe in the summer it’s the whole penny even taking into account a 7-fold increase) comes out somewhere around 400 hryvnias per month i.e. --- 20 bucks - that's it.

            Does his father-in-law live on retirement at 1200 hryvnias or does he have a jewelry workshop?
            1. Krasmash
              Krasmash 25 September 2015 07: 39 New
              +7
              Quote: APASUS
              Does father-in-law live retiring at 1200 hryvnias or does he have a jewelry workshop?

              laughing laughing laughing
              Most likely, the Jewish son-in-law throws up money.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 25 September 2015 07: 43 New
                +1
                Quote: Krasmash
                Most likely, the Jewish son-in-law throws up money.

                laughing laughing laughing Sanya sent you to the knockout wassat
            2. atalef
              atalef 25 September 2015 15: 48 New
              0
              Quote: APASUS
              father-in-law lives retired at 1200 hryvnia or does he have a jewelry workshop?

              I can talk about the speed and nothing more, and about the price of gas
              20 bucks a month this winter and with gas heating.
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Most likely, the Jewish son-in-law throws up money.

              Yes, father-in-law Ukrainians and mother-in-Russian - lucky.
              wink
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              2. APASUS
                APASUS 25 September 2015 17: 00 New
                0
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: APASUS
                father-in-law lives retired at 1200 hryvnia or does he have a jewelry workshop?

                I can talk about the speed and nothing more, and about the price of gas
                20 bucks a month this winter and with gas heating.
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Most likely, the Jewish son-in-law throws up money.

                Yes, father-in-law Ukrainians and mother-in-Russian - lucky.
                wink

                For a jeweler - $ 20 is not enough, for an ordinary pensioner a third of the pension! Considering what you need to eat, drink, dress, etc.
          3. revnagan
            revnagan 25 September 2015 08: 51 New
            +6
            Quote: atalef
            it turns out somewhere 400 hryvnia per month i.e. --- 20 bucks - that's it.

            Despite the fact that the REAL salary in Ukraine is about 1800 UAH per month (this is not in Kiev, but in the regional centers), then 400 UAH per month for gas is never a penny. And so, yes. In the summer, if there is a gas column-60 -70 cubic meters per family leaves. 70X7-490 UAH. So it’s in the summer. And then, wash yourself like a pig in one water. First a child, then a wife. Then I. Next day, change. Europe, mmm. Her rabbit is happy. And in the winter, turning on the boilers, people will fly into the chimney with gas. Even if in the winter season the price is 3,6 UAH. One is happy, for what they fought, they ran into it. And in the Bandera house, there are 3 floors, gas heating .Now let them jump and bask in an iodine vapor.
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 25 September 2015 09: 11 New
              +2
              Quote: revnagan
              Even if in winter the price will be at 3,6 UAH.

              This is still such a price. They announced that they will raise to 6grn. per cube, and no one will reduce. Just in the winter period, it will be when we turn on the heating ... many people stock up with firewood, rely on electric heaters, only raise electricity gradually.
              1. revnagan
                revnagan 25 September 2015 20: 46 New
                0
                Quote: Egoza
                only electricity is also raised gradually.

                The networks will not endure corny. If everyone puts himself an electric boiler, the power system will collapse. In general: Repin's picture “Sailed”.
            2. atalef
              atalef 25 September 2015 15: 51 New
              0
              Quote: revnagan
              Despite the fact that the REAL salary in Ukraine is about 1800 UAH per month (this is not in Kiev, but in the regional centers), then 400 UAH per month for gas is never a penny

              In Kiev, about 3-4 tons, good 6-7 tons.
              Of course they live hard and the standard of living fell for many
              Quote: revnagan
              And so, yes. In summer, if there is a geyser, 60-70 cubic meters per family leaves. 70X7-490 UAH. So this is in the summer.

              He has an electric boiler, 400 hryvnia is with heating - in winter
              Quote: revnagan
              And in the winter, turning on the boilers, people will fly into the chimney with gas. Even if in the winter season the price is 3,6 UAH. One is happy, for what they fought, they ran into it. And in the Bandera house, there are 3 floors, gas heating .Now let them jump and bask in an iodine vapor.

              I say again - the father-in-law has 6 rooms, 2 floors - in winter 400g.v month.
      2. Cat man null
        Cat man null 25 September 2015 12: 56 New
        0
        Quote: EvgNik
        Already done. Gas prices (and not only) for the population raised

        How much is the gas price for the population of the Russian Federation? (Moscow - 85 raccoons / 1000 cub.m .; Tyumen - 77 raccoons / 1000 cub.m; continue the sequence wink )

        Quote: EvgNik
        Discount only to Ukraine.

        How much is the gas price for Ukraine (at a discount)?

        Compare the numbers, think a lot .. and only then write something ..

        Otherwise it turns out .. how is it there .. oh! Dima-Gogia, yes .. laughing
  3. VadimL
    VadimL 25 September 2015 06: 43 New
    +23
    Given the blockade of Crimea, the price should be raised on the contrary.
    1. ilichstar
      ilichstar 25 September 2015 06: 59 New
      +11
      it is not something that needs to be raised, but absolutely to refuse to supply gas, coal, oil industry and so on to these dampers.
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    2. prostorabochiy
      prostorabochiy 25 September 2015 07: 32 New
      +2
      We are not yet able to provide Crimea with 100% gas, electricity, gasoline, solarium, etc. And you don’t get much manure through Kerch. Everything is already clogged under the gum. Therefore, we are buying from ukrov so far. But he won’t see the food blockade, they don’t give a damn about their economy, they disconnect from the US embassy and on command. In short, while we are a bridge, an oil pipeline, power transmission lines, local Crimean refineries, etc. if we don’t build it, they will spoil us, and we will have to go down somewhere on the price of gas and on other issues. Well, they can start shooting there along the border villages. They will throw law-abductors with the basics, which they now like a splinter in f * c, deliberately, so that our mills grind them there. But the question is something else, people may die. How much does it cost? The lives of children, the elderly, but just people. Some 20 bucks per thousand cubic meters of gas? Yes, they are lost. You just need to speed up with logistics there, work.
  4. Magic archer
    Magic archer 25 September 2015 06: 44 New
    +22
    If this is true, then shame on our government !!! You can’t bend !!! What are the discounts?! To whom?! Those who pour mud and mud on us!? Those who allegedly fight with us and consider them to be the main enemy ?! !!
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam 25 September 2015 06: 59 New
      +3
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Do not bend!

      Recently I read an article about the blockade of Crimea last year, and about the supply of gas and coal to Ukraine last winter. From this article it follows that at present, the Russian Federation cannot independently provide Crimea with resources (energy, water, etc.). Therefore, the Russian government is bending under the requirements of 404. Exchange.
      1. uhu189
        uhu189 25 September 2015 07: 11 New
        +8
        And a year and a half, is it not enough to conduct at least cables in Crimea, 110kV, from the Kuban? To at least partially, if not completely, remove the issue of energy block, at least for the region of Kerch and Feodosia? Is this an arch-complicated engineering task for the Russian Federation? I do not believe! Arguments that the discount is a resource charge for the Crimea do not stand up to criticism in more detail.
        1. ARES623
          ARES623 25 September 2015 08: 41 New
          +2
          Quote: uhu189
          And a year and a half, is it not enough to conduct at least cables in Crimea, 110kV, from the Kuban? To at least partially, if not completely, remove the issue of energy block, at least for the region of Kerch and Feodosia? Is this an arch-complicated engineering task for the Russian Federation? I do not believe! Arguments that the discount is a resource charge for the Crimea do not stand up to criticism in more detail.

          Communications and energy facilities in the Crimea are quite complex and capital intensive. Build them, despite the urgency, it is necessary with the expectation of full compliance with safety standards and service life. Therefore, in a year it’s impossible to raise all this with the necessary quality. Well, a discount on bureaucratic obstacles. You can’t get away from them. Although under presidential supervision everything is already done quite quickly. Still, to build a bridge is not to spud potatoes. The bridge is generally the most difficult construction. Haste in this matter may come at a higher cost than in current trade relations with 404. And in the Slovak reverse our gas paid for by Slovakia. In these matters, often more political show-offs and speculation.
          1. uhu189
            uhu189 25 September 2015 09: 23 New
            +1
            I have some relation to the energy sector, I dare to assure you that it is quite possible to carry out a plant for supplying cable lines to existing 110 / 10kV substations in a year and a half, and there is nothing complicated, especially if it is a strategic task. In Syria, in a month, the airfield was actually rebuilt when it became necessary ...
            1. Dry_T-50
              Dry_T-50 25 September 2015 10: 10 New
              0
              Quote: uhu189
              . In Syria, the airfield was actually rebuilt in a month when it became necessary ...

              Keyword- "when it became necessary"
              PS In the case of Ukraine 20 $ the weather will not do, then in terms of the economy, the polar fox does not come, but has already come and goes from the hallway.
              PPS Previously, they dropped 50% altogether.
        2. Cat man null
          Cat man null 25 September 2015 14: 03 New
          0
          Quote: uhu189
          And a year and a half is not enough to conduct at least cables in Crimea, 110kV, from the Kuban

          They are already leading .. and not 110, but 220 kV .. You slept for a year and a half, and only woke up? wink

          - commissioning of the first stage - November-December 2015 (300 MW)
          - commissioning of the second stage - the first quarter of 2016 (500 MW)

          We type in the search engine "Crimea energy bridge", we have a lot of information ..

          Something like this..
      2. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 25 September 2015 07: 27 New
        +6
        Quote: MainBeam
        Quote: Magic Archer
        Do not bend!

        Recently I read an article about the blockade of Crimea last year, and about the supply of gas and coal to Ukraine last winter. From this article it follows that at present, the Russian Federation cannot independently provide Crimea with resources (energy, water, etc.). Therefore, the Russian government is bending under the requirements of 404. Exchange.

        With water, the issue seems to be resolved. There is electricity left. The cable should be laid from the Kuban by December. The article states that the discount is valid until December 31, 2015. Further we will look at the gestures of our government.
    2. atalef
      atalef 25 September 2015 07: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Magic Archer
      If this is true, then shame on our government !!! You can’t bend !!! What are the discounts ?! Who?

      There is nowhere to go, they will all the same receive gas at the European price (reverse) only from another producer. Now there are enough of them in Europe. Gazprom provides only 30% of European gas. those who stop supplying gas to Ukraine - it's just giving your piece of cake to another uncle
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 25 September 2015 07: 33 New
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        . those who stop supplying gas to Ukraine - it's just giving your piece of cake to another uncle

        Sanya, they’re driving gas that they buy from us. The word reverse doesn’t tell you anything. laughing
      2. RBLip
        RBLip 25 September 2015 08: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        those who stop supplying gas to Ukraine - it's just giving your piece of cake to another uncle

        So what? is zombieland the last customer? there is a field not plowed - Asia. and give these ghouls a freebie ... that's wrong. used to hide behind a slogan like “brothers”. what brothers they are to us - we all see. take charge on the reverse take.
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      4. Aleksander
        Aleksander 25 September 2015 11: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        There is nowhere to go, they will all the same receive gas at the European price (reverse) only from another producer. Now there are enough of them in Europe. Gazprom provides only 30% of European gas. those who stop supplying gas to Ukraine - it's just giving your piece of cake to another uncle


        In Slovakia, all gas is 100% Russian and no other.
    3. anfil
      anfil 25 September 2015 07: 57 New
      +3
      According to the decree, the price of gas for Ukraine is set at the level of gas prices for the countries of the European Union adjacent to Ukraine.


      Well, where is the indulgence? But now no one will say to Russia that out of harm we do not unreasonably inflate the price for 404, it is a Europe, so let them pay at European prices. All the same, the price of gas depends on oil prices.
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 25 September 2015 10: 33 New
      0
      Quote: Magic Archer
      If this is true, then shame on our government !!! You can’t bend !!! What are the discounts?! To whom?! Those who pour mud and mud on us!? Those who allegedly fight with us and consider them to be the main enemy ?! !!

      These are emotions ...
      By and large, the discount is not provided to Ukraine at all, but to the one who pays for it today - Europe. Also, of course, an ugly partner, but he allocates 500 million euros for the fact that the saloids would not freeze. The most interesting thing is that this money will go to Russia bypassing Ukraine. They won’t even be able to smell them, but at the same time they will increase their debt by 500 lyam.
      The fact that dill will poke European gas out of the pipe without paying a hryvnia is not interesting to either Europe or Russia, even if it’s at least 500 million, but ours.
      But what will dill do after 2019, when they lose their transit status? Ukraine today does not decide anything on its own. Poroshenko and all his comarilia are just talking heads ...
  5. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 25 September 2015 06: 47 New
    +9
    If it is next to GDP .... "then the house is gone" (c)
  6. Posya10rus
    Posya10rus 25 September 2015 06: 47 New
    +8
    Zadolbali with ki! What are the discounts? It is necessary to introduce the term "capes" and work with it. Full roads. If only km were repaired.
  7. samarin1969
    samarin1969 25 September 2015 06: 50 New
    +7
    Let this iPhone give a discount at the expense of his own salary ... and some kind of strange “partner” he is to Ukraine.
  8. katalonec2014
    katalonec2014 25 September 2015 06: 51 New
    +7
    It’s time to tie it up with discounts, they are striving to Europe, so let them pay European.
  9. Vityok
    Vityok 25 September 2015 06: 54 New
    +11
    It is necessary to take care of your PEOPLE more, and not to feed the dill banderlogs.
    1. Krasmash
      Krasmash 25 September 2015 06: 58 New
      +6
      Quote: Vitek
      It is necessary to take care of your PEOPLE more, and not to feed the dill banderlogs.

      Yes, these are trifles. The Russians are used to enduring. And this is very bad.
    2. Loner_53
      Loner_53 25 September 2015 07: 20 New
      +6
      Quote: Vitek
      It is necessary to take care of your PEOPLE more, and not to feed the dill banderlogs.

      And they definitely have his people? The question is where and what kind of people for them his winked
  10. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 25 September 2015 06: 54 New
    +3
    Erysipelas as if from a big hangover lol
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 25 September 2015 06: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: sergeyzzz
      Erysipelas as if from a big hangover

      With Poroshenko noted discounts on gas.
    2. provincial
      provincial 25 September 2015 12: 56 New
      0
      carefully, this gentleman may be the next guarantor.
  11. olf
    olf 25 September 2015 06: 55 New
    +9
    How much longer will this face betray Russia?
  12. Wolka
    Wolka 25 September 2015 06: 56 New
    +6
    one threatens to raise the retirement age to replenish the country's budget, the other gives gas discounts to our enemies, and all at the expense of Russian taxpayers, our government has a strange policy, and not whether it is genocide of its own people ...
  13. exalex2
    exalex2 25 September 2015 06: 57 New
    +4
    Dumb, smug turkey. But you can regret it. After all, he does not make a decision, he is a simple executor (lightning rod, "scapegoat") of his master’s will. Putin said that they are “brothers”, so it is and will be.
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 September 2015 07: 03 New
    +5
    Honestly, this flirting with the West through various discounts and concessions to Ukraine is already pretty tired. For some reason I was sure that there would be no more discounts, although doubts prevailed. Perhaps the words "discount on gas" and sounds too loud, but still not nice. And this despite the fact that our prices for everything are only growing.
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      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 25 September 2015 08: 13 New
        0
        You are too radical somehow. What will be useful from the fact that a terrorist attack will occur on our territory.
        and pay off part of their debts.

        To whom will they pay back? Not a minus - I think that they wrote in a rush.
        1. Krasmash
          Krasmash 25 September 2015 08: 38 New
          -2
          Quote: rotmistr60
          What will be useful from the fact that a terrorist attack will occur on our territory.

          To begin with, how many Russians will be upset that heaps of drones will not be there at a time? In the beginning they will shout that this mess is going on, and then they will calm down, they say, by deed.
          Quote: rotmistr60
          To whom will they pay back?

          In front of the Russian State.
          Quote: rotmistr60
          Not a minus - I think that they wrote in a flash

          Yes, with what it is hot. Often I am in our hinterlands, but in general the size of the settlement does not play a role. Somehow, the leadership of the country, and indeed of all sorts of governors, deputies and mayors, people consider enemies more than pendants. From Siberia is especially clearly visible.
          1. rotmistr60
            rotmistr60 25 September 2015 08: 55 New
            +1
            Often visit my outback

            I also do not live in the "golden-headed". And in our Far East, too, we don’t ride like cheese in butter. But we live and do not call for explosions.
            1. Krasmash
              Krasmash 25 September 2015 09: 18 New
              -1
              Quote: rotmistr60
              But we live and do not call for explosions.

              Well, since they are very worried about the people and position themselves as strong statesmen, but are breathing unevenly for America, then Thomas Jefferson said the following for them:
              The tree of freedom must be irrigated from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants. This is his natural fertilizer.
      2. Kuzyakin15
        Kuzyakin15 25 September 2015 10: 35 New
        -2
        Krasmash:
        100 +++++!
    2. Dr. Livesey
      Dr. Livesey 25 September 2015 08: 11 New
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Honestly, this flirting with the West through various discounts and concessions to Ukraine is already pretty tired. For some reason I was sure that there would be no more discounts, although doubts prevailed. Perhaps the words "discount on gas" and sounds too loud, but still not nice. And this despite the fact that our prices for everything are only growing.


      Load more than us
      They began for some reason ...
      Today in the store sausage
      Do not buy someone.
      The ruler sets us
      With the "X" tasks.
      PhD - and that
      Crying at the counter.
      It's only the beginning,
      It's only the beginning,
      It's only the beginning,
      Oh oh oh!
  15. f, hfrjlf, hf
    f, hfrjlf, hf 25 September 2015 07: 06 New
    +4
    but I don’t understand why anyone is buying gas from Kago
  16. valokordin
    valokordin 25 September 2015 07: 13 New
    +1
    Quote: f, hfrjlf, hf
    but I don’t understand why anyone is buying gas from Kago

    Comrades do not understand, and gentlemen will always understand.
  17. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 25 September 2015 07: 18 New
    +7
    There are more discounts that are good and different for the fabulous country of Ukropia, but it would be desirable at the expense of officials, government, deputies and other different elites, since their salaries are sky-high, this is not counting those funds that they get from the budget when cutting, but dreams, dreams, again all this I’ll have to compensate the people by raising taxes, freezing salaries for simple laborers, and even forgot about extending the retirement period, ending pension indexation of pensions.
  18. vfqjh
    vfqjh 25 September 2015 07: 21 New
    +3
    Our dear SERVERS OF THE PEOPLE! How long will you consider your people to be IDIOTS, the people themselves see and understand everything perfectly, and you are all around. Wimps!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 September 2015 07: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: vfqjh
      the people themselves see and understand everything perfectly

      About see-agree.
      But about understands, this is unlikely.
      1. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 25 September 2015 10: 13 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        About see-agree.

        You, gentlemen, look, but only you do not see the truth ©
  19. Afinogen
    Afinogen 25 September 2015 07: 23 New
    +2
    Recall that the decision on discounts is made by the Russian government at a time when Kiev supports the radical action on the so-called “blockade” of the Crimea.


    And at that moment when dill in plain text said that they would not give us the debt. Something I do not understand the policies of our government request Do they sometimes think ?????
  20. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 25 September 2015 07: 43 New
    +2
    In their mouth, not discounts! am
  21. zllllo
    zllllo 25 September 2015 07: 46 New
    +1
    they need to send gas reception officials and at least half of the 5 columns there, and the gas is the property of the people, there is nothing to squander.
  22. anfil
    anfil 25 September 2015 07: 46 New
    0
    Quote: Dembel 77
    The gas price for the population of the Perm Territory is today 77.12 am.dol. for 1000 cbm Well, our gas! If Ukrainians want cheaper gas, let them produce it themselves ...

    And we have in Volgograd 73,70 am. rub. for 1000 cbm move to us wink
    1. katalonec2014
      katalonec2014 25 September 2015 07: 55 New
      0
      With a clear price, the question is brewing, how many cubes are needed in winter? and what is the total payment for gas, including heating and cooking.
  23. North
    North 25 September 2015 07: 50 New
    +1
    However, there was a strategic cut (a rumor
  24. kitpit
    kitpit 25 September 2015 07: 53 New
    +2
    I understand when the price is lower than its population or if it went to a friendly country, but this wassat In my opinion, beyond understanding am
  25. karevik
    karevik 25 September 2015 07: 53 New
    +1
    People! This is not Medvedev’s business, this is Putin! Ordinary Ukrainians will not even know! A pretty penny will be cut off by their head in the person of Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko. And they will let part of the money to strengthen their army, that would fight with us even if while in the Donbass!
    The rest will be soprut under the horror of enemy Russia. Do it yourself strengthens the enemy!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 September 2015 07: 56 New
      0
      Quote: karevik
      And they will let part of the money to strengthen their army, that would fight with us even if while in the Donbass!

      Aw wake up, the warrior is over. Now we are fighting in Syria
      1. Dr. Livesey
        Dr. Livesey 25 September 2015 08: 20 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Aw wake up, the warrior is over. Now we are fighting in Syria

        And advice and love with Ukraine ?! belay And Svidomo men do not know! crying
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 September 2015 09: 34 New
          0
          Quote: Dr. Livesey
          And advice and love with Ukraine ?!

          There is no love, warriors either.
          Quote: Dr. Livesey
          And Svidomo men do not know!

          In my opinion, only you do not know.
          1. Dr. Livesey
            Dr. Livesey 25 September 2015 10: 05 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            In my opinion, only you do not know.

            In your opinion, in your opinion. yes A Svidomo you already reported ?! fellow
  26. Yurmix
    Yurmix 25 September 2015 07: 56 New
    +2
    Quote: Athenogen
    Do they sometimes think ?????

    Sometimes.
  27. cap54
    cap54 25 September 2015 08: 02 New
    +3
    We got it already with our discounts and help - then there are 20, then there are 10, then somewhere else, so much more, then we are helping Syria to someone else ... And when they pay attention to the Russian people, there is a strong opinion that all governments for one among themselves !!! And they just do not care about the people - some kind of annoying midges ...
  28. wild
    wild 25 September 2015 08: 16 New
    +2
    And they will give gas, electricity, coal at a discount definitely. Under the cries of the fraternal people, the government will formalize everything.
  29. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 25 September 2015 08: 18 New
    +3
    The president will return from New York, he will ask the government! Look, the boyars have unbelted - to squander state money! And he’ll ask for something that they won’t be able to explain to the people why they give a lot of discounts — that’s a great blessing for Russia (and, you see, on the Internet, in newspapers, and on TV, they ask uncomfortable questions. So soon to pester on the street will).
  30. ivan bogomolov
    ivan bogomolov 25 September 2015 08: 28 New
    +1
    Obra ... already with this gas, a parastatal company does business, that is, money, they need to .. trust the opinions of ordinary people and even more so half the interests of Russia, and because of this, Russia looks tolerant, weak. If it were completely state, then they would solve these problems in a different way, zadol..bali businessmen with their problems. negative
  31. Engineer
    Engineer 25 September 2015 08: 36 New
    +3
    This mug in the photo is the main sanction of the West.
  32. 31rus
    31rus 25 September 2015 08: 42 New
    +3
    I don’t understand the linkage of Crimea and the gas discount? Gazprom, the most powerful company couldn’t put a pipe in the Crimea? I don’t believe it, could build gas thermal power plants, if you couldn’t get your money, you people, you need to drive gas to Turkey, the EU, give discounts Ukraine, and then what? Tomorrow there will be other claims and requirements on the part of Ukraine, we will continue to fulfill what kind of nonsense, they owe us millions on loans that we may not get, so why should we consider this debt as part of payment for transit through Ukraine to the Crimea? Why do I need to drive gas cheaply and at the same time wait for the return of the debt, what kind of approach?
  33. roskot
    roskot 25 September 2015 08: 51 New
    +1
    Caved in once again.
  34. erased
    erased 25 September 2015 08: 56 New
    0
    Well, as I wrote, there will be a discount. Fuck knows what reasons are there, what they know there, which we don’t know (and we know almost nothing), but ... why do all concessions to dill look like defeats?
    Slurred mooing at the shelling of Russian territory by Ukrainian Nazis and the death of a person. Puffs with the return of gas debts that year. Silence with the abduction of two brothers from the border. The blockade of Crimea in terms of electricity and water is generally silence. And ... discounts, concessions, forgiveness ...
    And if tomorrow a couple of terrorist attacks on the territory of the Russian Federation, moreover, openly by the hands of banderlogs - will mooing also go? And a new gas discount? For some reason, this no longer seems unbelievable.
  35. Stoler
    Stoler 25 September 2015 09: 04 New
    +1
    RUSSIA SUPPORTS MAIDAN with its discounts and strengthens the rating of Poroshenko!
  36. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 25 September 2015 09: 15 New
    0
    If 232 bucks, then this turns out to be comparable with the price for Poland. There is an idea that the concept of "discount" is most likely just a political ploy and nothing more.

    Like so. yes
    1. Dry_T-50
      Dry_T-50 25 September 2015 10: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      If 232 bucks, it turns out comparable to the price for Poland

      That's the way it is, but Ukraine’s economy is not Polish, Ukraine accepts gas only at 180 $
  37. Maksus
    Maksus 25 September 2015 09: 31 New
    +1
    If the price is promised at the level of "neighboring EU countries", it remains only to congratulate the Rabbit and the Boar - urKain - tse Europe))) But just do not hang noodles with us again?
  38. sgr291158
    sgr291158 25 September 2015 09: 37 New
    0
    I don’t understand what mud was not watered. And after that, give them a discount on gas. What are they completely stunned. Yes, no discounts, if they freeze, let them jump.
  39. anip
    anip 25 September 2015 10: 07 New
    +3
    Ha ha ha And someone does not see comments similar to those that were a week or two ago, when the majority screamed "fig Khokhlam, not gas." Even then, I wrote here that the EEC and Russia agreed on gas supplies to Ukraine and gas discounts. But no, the hoo-putriots continued to yell "FIG Khokhlam, not gas," and this despite the facts and news. What now do not yell your mantra?
    And for those who are now here looking for excuses for discounts and gas supplies to Ukraine, they say Crimea, there, etc. blah blah blah, I remind you that also a week or two ago Miller said that after 2019 gas transit through Ukraine will continue. It follows that both gas supplies and discounts for Ukraine, as they were, will be so, despite all sorts of current “excuses” of the pra-Utriots and the mantra, this is how the bridge to the Crimea is built, so immediately ukho-wai-wai-wai will be. So, not B D E T, everything will remain as before. The guarantor and his comrades are only capable of crushing their own people.
  40. Dmitry 83
    Dmitry 83 25 September 2015 10: 15 New
    0
    According to the decree, the price of gas for Ukraine is set at the level of gas prices for the countries of the European Union adjacent to Ukraine. following this phrase and just do a discount is given or just chatter hohlyatsky next
  41. Dry_T-50
    Dry_T-50 25 September 2015 10: 24 New
    0
    It seems to me that various provocateurs on the site confidently prepare the ground for the Maidan.
    Remember, Euromaidan in Kiev, too, began because of the “insufficient patriotism of the authorities” and “# Enough to get the korek"
  42. maxxdesign
    maxxdesign 25 September 2015 11: 06 New
    0
    Do not forget that in addition to the State Department mongrel, nourished by Nuland cookies, ordinary people live there, who, for all this policy, they also want to winter in the warmth. Of course, I would like to hope that more than 70% of the population is left in the ruin not with maydanute brains .... but even if there are only 10% of them, who are normal and adequate ...
  43. ma_shlomha
    ma_shlomha 25 September 2015 11: 13 New
    +2
    "Rossiyskaya Gazeta" published an article by Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, in which he explains the current socio-economic situation and offers options for further development of the country's economy. "We need to learn how to be better and faster, and this is the only way to the goal in today's changing world," Medvedev said.
    Medvedev turns to national resources - human capital with his analytical considerations about the current and upcoming socio-economic structure of Russia, as if he is the leader of the nation - President of the country.
    The Prime Minister should state these or those phenomena only within the walls of his offices. There, his place - on the basis of his duties - his business is to be the executor of the order of power - the multinational people (Constitution of the Russian Federation, part 1, article 3).
    That is, his business is not to tell us about what and how he understands our problems and our difficulties, but his duties - the prime minister - to be able to organize the development by the Government of "road maps" to overcome them, in the end should appear real business plans executive authorities.
    However, he hides his inability, and, rather, his reluctance to answer for his actions, behind the trickles of the fountain of empty words (no matter what concepts they indicate). Previously, such people were called - to put it mildly, talkers or rubbish.
  44. roskot
    roskot 25 September 2015 11: 29 New
    +3
    Well, as much as you can.
  45. Chulman
    Chulman 25 September 2015 16: 59 New
    0
    Do not worry! Went the other day to Taman, everywhere in the direction of the sea are power lines. So soon they will throw a cable on the Crimean coast, work is in full swing. good