No longer a country of 404. In continuation of "Help me find a turnip ..."

I admit honestly, wrote yesterday's article fun. And he just sneered from the mood. Even went on about a friend, changed rice for millet. Very very stupid Ukrainian eyes climbed. And I chose a narrow topic precisely because. Well, one cannot fail to see what he stumbles upon. Even a blind person will understand that there is something under his feet if he stumbles upon an obstacle.




However, this approach does not say at all that I do not see a more global background. This toy blockade. I see. Therefore I am writing. And readers' comments to this are pushing. Therefore, in the title of the article a little bit is forced to change the beginning. It's about serious things.

So, the blockade, some kind, took place. Discarded products by Ukrainian farmers already have. Attempt to ramming checkpoint Ukrainian wagon too. Passions are there. Why is everything serious?

Let me remind readers of the message of last summer. Everything related to the Crimea. By and large, there was no serious action of Kiev in relation to Simferopol. Any remarks about some disruptions of the holiday season. Some eyewitness stories about the deterioration of the life of the Crimean people. Periodic statements of politicians about Crimea belonging to Ukraine.

But on the whole, it seemed that Kiev had come to terms with the loss of the Crimea, and all the talk was only at the level of phantom pains. Honestly, it suited us quite well. And the leadership of Ukraine, too. Problems and without the Crimea enough.

But autumn has come. The eve of winter. Let there be no frosts, no freezing people. But soon, very soon, such a probability will appear. Ukraine is not ready for winter. Ukraine cannot be ready without the goodwill of Russia. And not only because there is no money. But also because Russia can simply “not want” to give free energy resources.

We (with the help of the media) got used to the fact that the main thing for Ukraine is Russian gas. But in fact, besides gas, coal and electricity are needed. Need fuel for nuclear power plants. Any kind of energy is ultimately tied to Russia. Even firewood, if all of Ukraine is transferred to stove heating, will need to be purchased from us.

So, what I mean. Remember last autumn. The same as today. With the same problems. And exactly the same attitude to everything Russian on the part of the Ukrainians. How many expert comments were there that Ukraine would freeze? Who ever wrote about it. And most importantly, no prerequisites for a better share were foreseen.

But suddenly, unexpectedly for the majority, Russia went to a deliberately unprofitable and humiliating agreement for itself. We again began to subsidize the energy sector of Ukraine. We have provided loans, discounts. “Talking heads” appeared on the TV screens, which told about the brotherhood of nations and the compassion of Russians towards the lost Ukrainians. Whatever the political program, the tears in his eyes from the emotion. What we are good.

And only a few understood that Ukraine took Russia for ... let it be-by the throat. And firmly took. And the reason for this situation was the Crimea. It is the energy dependence of the peninsula from Ukraine. And the ability to simply turn off the electricity, gas. How it was made with water.

Everybody knew and knows about it. And many wrote. The Russian government has done and is making titanic efforts to reduce such dependence to a minimum. But we do not have time to start the heating season. You need at least two months. Until the beginning of December.

But this is also known in Kiev. Therefore, to solve questions about the Russian supply will be in the same two months. According to the scenario last year. Either you give us discounts and stuff, or we turn off the Crimea. And the conversations will be on this issue at a very serious level.

However, an attentive reader has a question: does the food blockade have something to do with it? And the Crimean Tatars as performers? Energy is energy, and products are products. The question is reasonable. And the answer to it can not be unambiguous.

Kiev is afraid to directly confront Moscow. Just afraid. Especially knowing the determination of the Kremlin leaders. That's why he gave the Crimean question to the Tatar Mejlis. In this case, in any case, Kiev wins. Successful blockade can be maintained. And thereby gain some rating among the voters. It will fail ... Well then. It was a personal initiative of the leaders of the Majlis, and the leadership of Ukraine has nothing to do with this.

I'm not sure that readers are particularly interested in the statements of Chubarov and his ilk. The Crimean Tatars from outside Crimea are already actively calling for an expansion of the blockade. Not limited to products. But turn off both electricity and gas. Yes Yes. Exactly this. Your eyes don't lie to you.

It seems to me that the Ukrainian authorities are now trying to play the same card as last year. Only now, due to the sharply increased risks of getting one's hands, the Crimean Tatars were chosen as the main performers. And the rate has changed somewhat.

Today, Kiev needs the Majlis to recognize in Russia the same extremist as the Right Sector. To create an additional trump card for talking about the oppression of the indigenous peoples of Crimea. Therefore, Ukrainian and Crimean-Tatar nationalists united in a blockade.

In general, Ukraine is now frantically searching for ways to somehow “put pressure” on Russia. It is to Russia. Waiting for help from Washington or Brussels is not particularly reasonable. And there, and there Poroshenko received quite a clear "nonsense." Both Obama and Merkel with all the others are actively looking for a replacement for the “spent leadership of Ukraine.” Under these conditions, any instability in society can lead to a coup d'état. Not to the Maidan, namely to the coup. From the palace series.

So we will laugh at the blockade, but also look around too. To time too ridiculous heel on dirty hands pin down.

According to our information, the blockade of the peninsula is carried out by three groups.

1. Checkpoint "Chongar". There really are several dozen activists from the Crimean Tatars headed by Refat Chubarov.

2. CAT "Kalanchak". Crimean Tatars not. The road is blocked by Makhnovists "Skadovsk Self-Defense" led by centurion Vladimir Kurikov.

3. PPC "Chaplinka" blocks the "Right Sector".

In addition, a hundred of the "Right Sector" occupied the village of Chongar. Guard headquarters Dzhemileva. Fighters with the emblems of "Azov" are also noticed. There is a construction of concrete obstacles on the type of Donetsk. Blocks bring up "dogs" and "Azovs".

In addition, the border tightened:

1. The battalion of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine "Kherson".

2. The regiment "Dnepr-1".

3. Separate divisions of the 79-th airmobile brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

4. Separate units of the 36 Brigade of the Marines of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

According to the latest official reports, the leaders of the Crimean Tatars are now actively pushing the idea of ​​creating food hubs in Ukraine. According to unofficial data, they actively intercept the delivery routes of Ukrainian goods and offer their services as carriers.

Here is a "Crimean Tatar" blockade alignment.
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  1. slizhov 23 September 2015 05: 43 New
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    If such shibzdiki with crime, in addition to the Georgians begin to control an independent and independent, the End of the torment of the people is not visible beyond the mountains;)
    1. Voha_krim 23 September 2015 06: 31 New
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      Quote: slizhov
      If such shibzdiki with crime, in addition to the Georgians begin to control an independent and independent, the End of the torment of the people is not visible beyond the mountains;)

      "Many are ready to die rather than think. Actually, that’s how it goes."
      - Bertrand Russell
      1. Darkmor 23 September 2015 13: 01 New
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        Tricky plan from Ukraine? Come on :)
        Everything is much simpler:
        If something is being done in Ukraine, then look for money. They do not think strategically about the benefits to the state.
        Ukraine does not hold us for the Crimea, but for the gas pipe. This is already enough for us, in the end, to prevent them from freezing.

        The blockade of Crimea is just a way for the radicals to shock commerce and business, Ukrainian, which is noteworthy :)
        To us, the Russian Federation, this is basically a drum. Our business will even benefit from this.
        They may call for an outage as much as they like, but this will cut off the entire Kherson region (and part of Odessa), which depends on the same transit from the Russian Federation.

        The blockade of Crimea did not coincide with the winter season, it coincided with a ceasefire in the Donbass - and the Tse Patriots are looking for a new feeding trough. In Mukachevo they were told that it was a strange cow, now they climbed into the Crimea.

        The Crimean Tatar moment is completely absent here. If these “leaders” had real weight in the community of Crimean Tatars, then they could organize a blockade on the other side of the border. Well, or at least some rallies.
        So everything is simple - the bandits demand tribute from the merchants. Which wrapper it is served in is not important.
        1. nadezhiva 23 September 2015 15: 37 New
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          offer their services as carriers.

          Khokhlo. Tatars even dodged from fat / sugar to smuggle. Jews are crying.
    2. Amurets 23 September 2015 07: 52 New
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      This is a shibzdik with a rich criminal past. So, the local “Tatar and Ukrainian criminals” are merging with the new Georgian. Sorry, nothing personal, just a clarification.
      1. prostorabochiy 23 September 2015 11: 03 New
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        Almost so, but not quite. After the rose revolution in Georgia, there was also confusion and reeling crime. But there Nikolozovich picked everything up for himself. Something personally for themselves, something for the state, like the police. I gave something to my associates. But there the people did not have time to pervert by force of arms. And in the country of 404 every bike is its own. And if you bring to justice, then without shooting it will not work. Why do you think they drove the battalions to the Crimean checkpoints. How to drink give provoke some sort of small war.
        1. wasjasibirjac 24 September 2015 08: 24 New
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          Quote: prostorabochiy
          Why do you think they drove the battalions to the Crimean checkpoints. How to drink give provoke some sort of small war.
          if between the Armed Forces and the PS - then on health. stock up on popcorn and look at this action. but they can also rush to the border service of the Russian Federation in the Crimea, and this is a completely different alignment and a completely different resonance in the world. I’m sure that the border guards hang on to the Lyuli and the “Crimean Tatars” and the PS, the AFU may also get it, but the European press will be drooling from the screams that the Russians wanted to pave the way from the Crimea.
  2. Barboskin 23 September 2015 05: 59 New
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    Not everything is so bad, although I agree with the author that they are holding us for the Crimea. You can make concessions, but at a minimum, all the more you must not forget that we also keep them. Make them default, Russia as two fingers "asphalt". And the fact that this is not even 404, but God don’t understand at all, that this is only the beginning of the final stage of Ukrainian non-fallow ballet.
    1. Amurets 23 September 2015 07: 44 New
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      Already in the news today. Ukraine did not include Russia among those creditors whose debts will be restructured.
      1. CONTROL 23 September 2015 08: 23 New
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        Quote: Amurets
        Already in the news today. Ukraine did not include Russia among those creditors whose debts will be restructured.

        It is Russia that denied Ukraine the restructuring of debt on loans ...
        ... funny "news" ... in the "exposition of" Ukraine "! It’s not Russia that doesn’t give me food, but I’ve gone on a diet ... I’m not saving fuel, but I am improving - I’m temper ... Well .... in the cold! ...
      2. Horn 23 September 2015 13: 29 New
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        Quote: Amurets
        Already in the news today. Ukraine did not include Russia among those creditors whose debts will be restructured.

        - In fact, this CREDITOR can restructure debt by sparing the debtor. And not vice versa. But Ukraine is such a Ukraine ...
    2. aleks 62 next 23 September 2015 10: 00 New
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      .... In general, everything is almost right .... The bottleneck in Crimea is electricity .... The rest is (there is plenty of gas, water - thanks to strong rains last summer, all reservoirs have reached their maximum supply, by the way for the first time in several recent years .... They say enough for 2 years) .... If they manage to start the cable, then Crimea will be 50% with its own electric energy ... In the worst case, we will survive, in the 90s it was worse ... .
      1. Dmitry 2246 23 September 2015 11: 26 New
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        So that everything was 100% for you.
  3. Mountain shooter 23 September 2015 06: 00 New
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    It is clear that the energy dependence of the Crimea is the cornerstone of all this indecency. The construction of Crimean thermal power plants is already underway. Gas, as far as we know, Crimea has enough of its own. Need time. Here it is always not enough. Irreplaceable resource. They will throw the cable in December. But while half the required power. Winter will be harsh. I think Russia will do anything to “not freeze” Crimeans. And this must be treated with understanding.
    1. Siberian1965 23 September 2015 17: 58 New
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      I agree with you, you need to understand what is being done and why. But sometimes it’s hard to get understanding from the young. Today I returned from a restaurant by taxi and in a conversation to the question "where are you from" answered "from the capital of your homeland." I thought we’ll talk about Moscow, but the boy asked “what is it called,” I answered “from Washington,” he asked “where is it,” I honestly answered “in America.” Then the conversation got better, we talked about blacks, about Ukraine. Where is education heading?
  4. ML-334 23 September 2015 06: 02 New
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    Joseph Vissarionovich oh how not enough to restore order.
    1. Ah1ll 23 September 2015 12: 10 New
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      Yes, lacking a bit of determination! Joseph Vissarionovich would have long ago made a military training ground from Ukraine and that’s all. But ordinary ordinary, nothing involved people could suffer!
  5. Andrey Yuryevich 23 September 2015 06: 11 New
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    Let there be no frosts, no freezing people. But soon, very soon, such a probability will appear. Ukraine is not ready for winter.
    eh, Comrade Staver, you will not believe: Russia is not ready either! it’s the end of September in the courtyard, and we have nights at minus in the Urals, but there is no heat in the houses, and not so soon there will be ... problems with ... gas! More precisely, payment to gas workers. My small city (20 tons) turned out to owe about 260 million for gas over the past year. as??? HZ !!! this is roughly speaking each resident (incl. Infants) turned out to be about 13tyrs! Well, people came out on (Maidan), well, they screamed ... sense? request and you, Ukraine, Ukraine ... to hell with her, you need to restore order at home! amI think there are a lot of such cities.
    1. domokl 23 September 2015 06: 24 New
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      the city (20t.nas) turned out to owe about 260 million for gas over the past year.

      laughing And in our apartment ... they turned on the heat yesterday good And about the debts ... yesterday I just received a piece of paper from heating systems. Type pressure on conscience. So, in my house there are 60 apartments. Of these, 13 have debts. And the total amount of debt 574844.43 RUB ... So do not be surprised at your debt to the citywide.
      The problem of non-payers is always very serious everywhere. I don’t know why, but all the service providers took an interesting position. They introduced this incomprehensible ONE. And they spread the debt on those who pay ... I have an 40 wad light bulb on the site that eats more than a two-room electricity apartment. ..
      It’s I who didn’t intrusively throw Temko for the article ... Maybe someone gets into the Avdi stables of our housing and communal services ...
      1. Andrey Yuryevich 23 September 2015 06: 34 New
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        Quote: domokl
        The problem of defaulters is everywhere very serious

        Hi Sasha, I agree, yes, there is a problem, but my legs are growing from an extremely low standard of living, look at the average salary in the city (10-12tr), the rent for the off season (per kopeck piece is 6tr) and the prices outside the window ... that's it falls into place ... alas.
        1. domokl 23 September 2015 06: 41 New
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          legs grow from extremely low living standards

          hi Andrew categorically. Well, I don’t agree about the standard of living ... I didn’t just write about this piece of paper yesterday. And all the numbers are from there.
          And the defaulters live in MY house. I personally know almost all of them ... Drunk and principled non-workers "for 15tysch" And what is the most disgusting thing, that everything is in the juice itself ... 30-40 years ... But old women pay regularly ...
          1. Andrey Yuryevich 23 September 2015 07: 11 New
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            Quote: domokl
            .. Alkashnya and principled non-workers "for 15tysch"

            Sasha’s marginals, in any country there are, but I know neighbors who get out of their skin trying to survive! BUT it’s extremely difficult to find work and for 15 tons, it can be said impossible, but really for 7-8, but how then to survive? there’s one of two things: either warm or hunger and naked. I’ll retire in half a year, and if I don’t work, I’ll join the number of outcasts. such are the realities ... request
            1. Vladimir 1964 23 September 2015 09: 13 New
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              I’ll retire in half a year, and if I don’t work, I’ll join the number of outcasts. such are the realities ...


              Well done, Andrei Yurievich, that you understand this. That is what awaits you. I come from my own experience.

              That's it. request
          2. andj61 23 September 2015 08: 58 New
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            Quote: domokl
            And the defaulters live in MY house. I personally know almost all of them ... Drunk and principled non-workers "for 15tysch"

            I also met simply “principled” defaulters, and with normal earnings. Until the case comes to the bailiffs just do not pay - and that’s it. After the court ruling, they are running out, executing it - no one wants to lose the apartment after all - and again they don’t pay. It is said that debts go off scale in two years, thus winning on inflation. Yes, they even nod at the existing abuses by the top of the housing and communal services.
          3. aleks 62 next 23 September 2015 10: 14 New
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            .... And defaulters live in MY house. I personally know almost all of them ... Alcoholics and principled non-workers "for 15tysch" And what’s the most disgusting thing, that everything is in the juice itself. 30-40 years old ... But the old women pay regularly ...

            .... The saddest thing is that you can’t take any action to encourage them to pay the debt ... Our laws protect them .... Even the courts cannot do this (for example, evict for debts with the subsequent sale of the apartment) .... Courts to undertake such matters when the amount of the debt will be at least 70% of the cost of housing (estimated) .... This is how many years or a dozen years is needed !!!! .... It's sad all this .... And annoying !!! !
        2. tracker 23 September 2015 06: 48 New
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          Housing and communal services is a weak spot in Russia, there are many frank grabbers in management companies. This weak spot will be hit by the "fifth" column. One of them is an increase in the overhaul charge immediately by 1 tyr, without any prerequisites. And if housing is tight, then Putin’s rating will not save, although he has nothing to do with it, there are still a lot of muddy personalities in the government
        3. Pfcts 23 September 2015 07: 03 New
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          And where exactly in your Urals did not give heating? Why I ask, I myself am from the Urals. If this is the Sverdlovsk region, then in 2005 a law was passed according to which residents should not pay more than 25% of their income for housing and communal services, and the poor should not pay more than 15%. Money for subsidies is allocated annually, but not once since 2005 have they been completely spent. I don’t know for other regions, but there is probably something similar.
          I have long been convinced that all problems stem from the lack of public awareness and the dishonesty of employees of interested enterprises, on which this awareness depends.
          1. Andrey Yuryevich 23 September 2015 07: 45 New
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            And where exactly in your Urals did not give heating?

            city ​​of Reg ... even in kindergartens and schools there is no heat. boiler rooms simply do not work.
          2. Horn 23 September 2015 13: 47 New
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            The only correction: now in Russia - 22%. Not more.
        4. Circuit breaker 23 September 2015 07: 50 New
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          And where did you see such prices - for two kopeck piece 6 tr per month ???
          1. CONTROL 23 September 2015 08: 48 New
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            And where did you see such prices - for two kopeck piece 6 tr per month ???

            ... Yes, something is a bit much for the city of Rezh! ...
            In the same city (Tatarstan) - well, to the maximum 4 - 4,5 ... and in fact - 3 - 3,2 ...
            1. Andrey Yuryevich 23 September 2015 12: 41 New
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              Quote: CONTROL
              ... Yes, something is a bit much for the city of Rezh! ...

              who would argue! In the Region, in Ekat, and even cheaper!
          2. Vladimir 1964 23 September 2015 09: 07 New
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            And where did you see such prices - for two kopeck piece 6 tr per month ???


            Yes, in the Kuban, Dear Mr. Pryanik, for example, in the cities of Ust-Labinsk and Krasnodar. With central heating and an apartment area of ​​40 sq.m., it fits exactly 6 rubles.

            Here it is like that. request
          3. Andrey Yuryevich 23 September 2015 12: 40 New
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            Quote: Circuit breaker
            And where did you see such prices - for two kopeck piece 6 tr per month ???

            in receipts.
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        6. Horn 23 September 2015 13: 45 New
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          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Quote: domokl
          The problem of defaulters is everywhere very serious

          Hi Sasha, I agree, yes, there is a problem, but my legs are growing from an extremely low standard of living, look at the average salary in the city (10-12tr), the rent for the off season (per kopeck piece is 6tr) and the prices outside the window ... that's it falls into place ... alas.

          And you take an interest in SZN bodies, what sums are sent back to Moscow through social protection, as unclaimed. Up to 80%! That is, people or do not know that the fee for a communal apartment should not exceed 22% of the total family income (in some regions it was reduced to 15, 12, 10%). If it exceeds 22% - you have a direct road to the organs of social protection. Why feed Rabinovich-Meney through our legal illiteracy ?!
      2. EvgNik 23 September 2015 06: 52 New
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        Quote: domokl
        And scatter debt on those who pay ...

        We have the same. For email they took energy to common houses as if I had a TV with a refrigerator on my site and worked around the clock. We went to power sales, cursed. Now everything is settled. 30 rubles per month.
        1. CONTROL 23 September 2015 08: 50 New
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          Quote: EvgNik

          We have the same. For email they took energy to common houses as if I had a TV with a refrigerator on my site and worked around the clock. We went to power sales, cursed. Now everything is settled. 30 rubles per month.

          It was like that too! also swore ... Ours won! about 30 ...
        2. svd-xnumx 23 September 2015 22: 02 New
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          We have the same. For email they took energy to common houses as if I had a TV with a refrigerator on my site and worked around the clock. We went to power sales, cursed. Now everything is settled. 30 rubles per month.
          Everything is elementary, the house usually has an electric meter in the Republic of Poland that considers common house consumption, kilowatts are subtracted from it, which you write in the receipts, the rest is distributed as general house consumption. On the 10th day, Manya was from the tenth-15, and from the common house 24, at first the general house consumption flew into the penny, as Vanya and Manya did not sit by candlelight until 24. I don’t know how to install the electrical wiring in houses, but in houses until 1991 (after we have not built more than one apartment building and have no experience in them) there are buildings, usually the lighting of the entrances and basements came from a separate group of RPs and the installation of a separate meter on them does not have much difficulty.
      3. CONTROL 23 September 2015 08: 43 New
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        ... And they spread the debt on those who pay ... I have a 40-watt light bulb on the site "eats" more than a two-room apartment of electricity ...
        It’s I who didn’t intrusively throw Temko for the article ... Maybe someone gets into the Augean stables of our housing and communal services ...

        The public administration of the housing and communal services is absent; Private "management companies" that are not able to manage even their own ass ... and dimensionless greed! Uncontrollability at the level of local authorities, that’s what it is!
        Choose - supposedly! - the local authorities, the Soviets, the “gubernators” and others ... Actually, the elections are a game of roulette, and the secret magnet is not in our hands. Not the best people go to power, especially the local one - on the contrary, the worst! For two decades I’ve been watching a couple of such “imperious” personalities: elected, found himself in power ... stealing ... ruined work ... about ... l everything I reached for ... Translated "horizontally" somewhere else (without demotion and without "losing rights"), where else is there anything to steal and ruin ...
        At the very least, but before such a party was supervised by such a party; “putting a party ticket on the table” (exclusion from the party, or a “wolf ticket” ...) - it was almost the physical death of an official, administrator ... And now even “planting” such a thing will not work at all! ...
        People yell: down with the liberals from power! ... And they are ministers, officials at key posts! Putin is to blame! does not touch them! ... And you try - not in the country of Russia! - and at least at a medium-sized plant - to drive out the entire management at once, and put in a new one, in full force ... To those who are older and have time to “twist” in this business - is it clear, right? ...
        That is why I personally sympathize with Putin! ...
        1. Belousov 23 September 2015 10: 25 New
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          Well, no matter how they’ve been in power for 15 years and haven’t even set anyone up, they haven’t put things in order anywhere. Or 15 years of power is not enough to at least do something for order in the housing and communal services?!? Maybe enough to believe in fairy tales about the evil boyars and whose good king are misleading?!? All these ministers are personally appointed by Putin, which means they are completely satisfied with him. And in the end, Serdyukov the order bearer, Vasiliev is now a star, sings and poems with paintings painted. And these are just public examples!
      4. aleks 62 next 23 September 2015 10: 04 New
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        .... And in our apartment ... they turned on the heat yesterday ...

        .... Yes-ah !!!! .... And we have +30 on the street !!!! .... Very warm September .... If this goes so, then in October at sea we will swim .... And about the housing and communal services .... The topic is certainly very interesting .... We are here in the Crimea plunged into it to the fullest .... People are in ecstasy !!!! ....
      5. Aleksey_K 23 September 2015 18: 37 New
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        Quote: domokl
        I have a 40-watt light bulb on the site "eats" more than a two-room apartment of electricity ...

        If you have a Council of an apartment building, then the chairman of the council and members of the council can simply check all the costs of all items. In my staircase, 3 bulbs are lit around the clock (this is how the porch is arranged, and there are 6 such porches) and as a result I pay only one tenth of my electricity consumption.
        If you do not want to manage your house council and put it on the shoulders of a negligent person, then there is nothing to complain about fraud. Be active. Deceivers can get a deadline too; you don’t need to feel sorry for them.
    2. tracker 23 September 2015 06: 42 New
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      This is what winter we know in the Urals and Siberia, but in the Crimea ?, is there at least a minus?
      1. aleks 62 next 23 September 2015 10: 25 New
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        .... and in the Crimea ?, is there at least a minus? ...

        .... It happens .... Even they walk in fur coats .... But seriously, the winter here (with good minuses, up to 10 - 20 deg.) Begins somewhere after January 10 ... February is usually cold .. ..But it happens that frosts come earlier .... And it’s relatively warm (+ 5 + 10) .... The majority of people cost demics .... Around the sea, and it’s warm in winter (10-12 degrees) - warms the Crimea ....
      2. Protos 23 September 2015 12: 40 New
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        In Crimea, with its high humidity and constant squally winds, -10С is like -35С in the Urals with its dry air and rare winds laughing
        He served in the PUrVO ... (Sverdlovsk, Chelyaba, Chebarkul, Nizhny Tagil) hi
    3. EvgNik 23 September 2015 07: 00 New
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      problems with ... gas! more precisely with payment to gas workers. My small city (20 tons) turned out to owe about 260 million for gas over the past year. as???

      We have about the same town. The plant is dead. For gas debts. But they still gave warmth.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich 23 September 2015 07: 47 New
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        Quote: EvgNik
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        problems with ... gas! more precisely with payment to gas workers. My small city (20 tons) turned out to owe about 260 million for gas over the past year. as???

        We have about the same town. The plant is dead. For gas debts. But they still gave warmth.

        you are lucky with the head, but we simply don’t have one, which is a year or two ...
      2. CONTROL 23 September 2015 08: 57 New
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        Quote: EvgNik
        We have about the same town. The plant is dead. For gas debts. But they still gave warmth.

        Mmm ...
        Not only not “dead”, but also new factories - both here and in the district - are being built! we have them! in collaboration, by the way, with the Americans! who "put with the device" on Obama’s sanctions ...
        1. domokl 23 September 2015 09: 14 New
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          Not only not “dead”, but also new factories - both here and in the district - are being built!

          We are also building .. but the plant, which makes Solntsepeki, reduces 60% of employees. Due to the falling demand for civilian products ...
    4. evil partisan 23 September 2015 07: 46 New
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      Quote: Andrew Y.
      and the yard is the end of September, and we have in the Urals at night minus

      belay
      Let's leave it to the conscience of the author ... I have a balcony on the loggia open all night request .
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      but there is no heat in the houses, and not so soon

      He went to the radiator, felt it. Hmmm ... It would be better if I didn’t do this: I almost burned my hand. sad
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      My small city (20 tons) turned out to owe about 260 million for gas over the past year. as???

      what
      Have hahly in the city? what
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        and the yard is the end of September, and we have in the Urals at night minus

        belay
        Let's leave it to the conscience of the author ... I have a balcony on the loggia open all night request .
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        but there is no heat in the houses, and not so soon

        He went to the radiator, felt it. Hmmm ... It would be better if I didn’t do this: I almost burned my hand. sad
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        My small city (20 tons) turned out to owe about 260 million for gas over the past year. as???

        what
        Have hahly in the city? what

        that's generally never funny half-act ...
    5. Share 23 September 2015 11: 57 New
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      eh, comrade Staver, you will not believe: Russia is not ready either

      Andrei Yuryevich do not speak for all of Russia. You can speak for your local authority, but Russia is big. My village in Buryatia, approximately like your 17000 tons of people - it got colder on the street, and it is already warm in the houses and as always in time. We didn’t even have any major problems with heating during perestroika. So deal with local authorities.
    6. S-kerrigan 24 September 2015 07: 33 New
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      I tell you how things are going in Siberia:
      Tomsk, on September 17, as the temperature was less than 8 degrees for 8 consecutive days, they gave the go-ahead for connecting to heat. After three days, 90% of the city was connected. Kindergartens and schools were connected ten days before (children are not accepted for freezing). Not Moscow, but still a good level. Russia is different.
  6. Zomanus 23 September 2015 06: 52 New
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    The energy bridge to the Crimea is promised to be completed by the end of this year and in December to provide electricity to the Crimea.
    I will not judge how much this compensates for the current supplies from Ukraine.
    On gas yes, the popes looms. For pipes from Russia have not been pulled and are not yet assembled.
    As an option, it can carry gas carriers, but here it’s purely my imagination.
    For food there is no fear, that's enough for everyone.
    In general, yes, it is noticeable that the Ukrainian government began to work actively not on its own behalf.
    That would not be substituted directly.
    Let's see ... In one year from Ukraine, we still will not get rid of.
    We and SP-2, we have a bridge to the Crimea ...
    And all this time we will need to avoid direct clashes with Ukraine.
    1. Rostovchanin 23 September 2015 08: 04 New
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      For pipes from Russia have not been pulled and are not yet assembled.

      Gather, and actively. Pipe 700 mm. will go from the Cossack "CS" a tender has already been given, if you believe the rumors, this is the same Stroygazmontazh (Rotenberg). If it were just a pipe, then I think there would be no problems, at least 4 booster compressor stations are needed, since there will be 400 km of pipelines. I know that the SMU Lengazspetsstroy, which were involved in the construction of the Southern Corridor in the vicinity of Art. Kushchevskaya will have to build one of the sections of the pipeline in the Krasnodar Territory. And this is not a matter of one year. Although, if the means and motivation of the workers are found, they will be managed in a year. One example is the Urengoy-Pomary-Uzhgorod gas pipeline when, in 1983, 4450 km of pipes were laid and 42 compressor stations were built. But then the workers were paid 900 rubles a month, remember that it was for the money.
    2. g1v2 23 September 2015 10: 18 New
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      This year only the first phase of the energy bridge will be commissioned. He will give approximately 360 MW. The second will be next summer and in total the bridge will produce 800 megawatts. The maximum peak consumption of Crimea is 1450 MW, normal 1100 MW. Crimean thermal power plants by the end of the year should have time to modernize and they will produce about 400 MW. Approximately 150-200 MW is provided by solar and wind power plants (maximum solar output reaches 400, but the average daily output is about 100-120). In 2014, 13 mobile gas-turbine power plants with a capacity of 22.5 MW each, a total of 292 MW and 1500 diesel generators per 310 MW were delivered to the Crimea. The latter are not included in the general network; they are used as backup at the most important facilities.
      In general, by the winter, taking into account the bridge, 1150 MW will be taken into account - that is, normal consumption will be covered, but diesel generators will have to be turned on to close peak consumption.
      By the middle of next year, they promise to complete the second phase of the energy bridge and complete the modernization of thermal power plants up to 600 MW. Own generation will be 1000 MW plus 800 MW of the bridge, that is, all problems will be resolved and it will even be possible to turn off some of the mobile stations. And after they build those 2 thermal plants that they recently laid down, it will be possible to completely remove all mobile power plants.
      As far as I remember, Chernomorneftegaz produces gas, there will be no serious problems with it. He in theory covers the needs of the Crimea.
  7. samarin1969 23 September 2015 06: 57 New
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    In Crimea, a record of -36, you can’t surprise with frost under 20, plus strong damp winds .... although you hardly noticed winter 2014/2015 ...
    PS when not high salaries Crimeans pay for light and gas carefully
  8. Denis DV 23 September 2015 06: 59 New
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    This outrage is more like a blockade of Ukraine than the Crimea. Stupid ukroaktivisty finish off Ukrainian farmers and peasants, breeding discontent in relatively prosperous areas Square. Another stress point is created in 404.
  9. parusnik 23 September 2015 07: 16 New
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    In general, Ukraine is now frantically looking for ways to somehow "put pressure" on Russia. .. The core did not grow ...
  10. Alexander Romanov 23 September 2015 07: 35 New
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    The question is, with whom did this chuhan take off his suit?
    1. Andrey Yuryevich 23 September 2015 07: 51 New
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      with whom did this chukhan take off his suit?

      is it sho-Dzhemilev? what then he could stupidly sleep ***, he's a criminal! yes
      1. evil partisan 23 September 2015 09: 11 New
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        could stupidly c ***

        Style like Romanov yes. And the growth is the same ... Although ... Romanov has a hell with ..what ... you steal repeat , generally. ... But alarming, however. what
        Really? belay
        Hi Sasha! hi
        Hello again to the fishermen.
    2. ferdiperdozzz 23 September 2015 08: 50 New
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      With Poroshenko?
    3. CONTROL 23 September 2015 09: 04 New
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      The question is, with whom did this chuhan take off his suit?

      I can advise Dzhemilev: stilettos ... more authentic! ...
      1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov 23 September 2015 09: 21 New
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        He has already let go of the Khokhlyak fashion Chuprin, “Cossack”!
    4. domokl 23 September 2015 09: 18 New
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      The question is, with whom did this chuhan take off his suit?

      laughing good Hi hi ... he probably just wants to seem big big fellow
    5. HAM
      HAM 23 September 2015 09: 57 New
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      Somewhere already saw this suit, really on Nemtsov?
  11. Volga Cossack 23 September 2015 07: 38 New
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    current article - thank you - everything on business!
  12. evil partisan 23 September 2015 07: 54 New
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    And anyway ... Regarding the blockade of Crimea. And why not send our Ministry of Foreign Affairs a request to Ukraine to voice the official position of the Ukrainian side regarding the events? Like: do you consider actions on the food blockade of Crimea legal or not legal? As far as I understand, the third is not given! request
    And if, for example, you get a positive answer, tell them that due to the unpredictability of further food supplies from Ukraine to Crimea, all food supply contracts are considered canceled by force majeure, and in the future Russia itself will impose a complete ban on food supplies from Ukraine to Crimea for resale in retail outlets. Exceptions are made only for personal use in the amount of 25 kg. per person per month (for example).
    1. ramzes1776 23 September 2015 08: 37 New
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      You just need to issue a decree that all Ukrainian products and goods that Russia purchases should be passed only through the Crimea. Then, there will be more Khokhlam)
    2. Andrey Yuryevich 23 September 2015 11: 49 New
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      Quote: wicked partisan
      And anyway ... Regarding the blockade of Crimea. And why not send our Ministry of Foreign Affairs a request to Ukraine to voice the official position of the Ukrainian side regarding the events? Like: do you consider actions on the food blockade of Crimea legal or not legal? As far as I understand, the third is not given!

      and they have already answered that the state should do this, and not the "right side"!
  13. vladimirvn 23 September 2015 08: 10 New
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    Political forgiveness ... ki Ukraine proposed to legalize prostitution.
  14. press officer 23 September 2015 08: 11 New
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    Quote: domokl
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    legs grow from extremely low living standards

    hi Andrew categorically. Well, I don’t agree about the standard of living ... I didn’t just write about this piece of paper yesterday. And all the numbers are from there.
    And the defaulters live in MY house. I personally know almost all of them ... Drunk and principled non-workers "for 15tysch" And what is the most disgusting thing, that everything is in the juice itself ... 30-40 years ... But old women pay regularly ...



    I agree with domokl. We are often to blame for defaulters, BUT, there are companies that literally draw such gorgeous numbers that you wonder where it came from. I can give an example. I have a million-plus city, housing and communal services prices, if by law, are quite acceptable, but our first Criminal Code drew such fabulous figures for the house that people simply stopped paying, the whole house, seeing that we were being stupidly robbed. Now we are suing them. The second lasted without theft from home, only half a year, then the same garbage started, and when the 1st floor burned down and the Criminal Code stupidly ran away so as not to restore anything at their own expense, as was assigned to them by the court ... it’s clear that debts were near the house. Now they are trying to decide how to sue us! Those. these, too, did not steal payments for apartments! Now (finally!) We have a normal company, which solves everything together with the residents, eliminates all the problems right away, the director is a young guy, he tries, and people pay! From experience, I’ll say that 70% of the house is usually paid in any case, the rest are either parasites or drunks. There are really strange ones .. they live on social services and believe that the state should pay everything for them .. or as one lady said to me, "I’m a single mother! I won’t pay anyone!" Strange concepts in people. And in the end, the city also does not have weak debts for heat and gas and electricity. And if you pay for kopeck piece 6 thousand. it's time to read what they write interesting there! I get out of the counters for three rubles and three registered ones, about 3,5 thousand for everything! Familiar for 100sq.m. pays 5 thousand. total! And I know where to look in the ticket and what questions to ask with incomprehensible amounts or lines. The experience of the previous ones has affected). So I agree with the author, there is no super low standard of living! There are simply thieves and freeloaders! From there all the problems! It has always been!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich 23 September 2015 11: 57 New
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      I agree with domokl. We are often to blame for the defaulters,
      that is, people. they stupidly do not want to give their money. simply because it is a pity. or maybe in order to undermine the poor housing and communal services, in short extremists, to their wall! they could starve, you look what! the bar was found, give them warmth, and even the products are cheap! can they also give a good salary job? and then what will they ask for? free kindergartens? summer camps for permits free? sanatoriums for workers free of charge? more far! so treatment will be requested for so, and education! You are right, you have to put it out in the bud, or else the USSR-2 will succeed! yes
  15. Marwel-f 23 September 2015 08: 33 New
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    I read the article, sighed over the comments, came to a disappointing conclusion. Moscow residents really snickered. Maybe I'm stepping on a peeve, I apologize in advance. Nevertheless, I ask: explain HOW can I live on 15000 rubles a month? I need at least 40 thousand. True, in the family I work alone and 10 thousand I give as alimony. But even one WORKING person with the payment of an apartment and travel of 15 thousand is extremely small.
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      Moscow residents really snickered.

      laughing Those comments that you read are not written by the inhabitants of poor Moscow. They are written by the inhabitants of rich Siberia, the Urals and the Far East ... And here 15-20 thousand are a good salary .. alas, this is the reality
      1. Andrey Yuryevich 23 September 2015 11: 59 New
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        Those comments that you read are not written by the inhabitants of poor Moscow.

        It’s Sasha ... we are “zamkadyshi” ... we live where life does not exist by definition! laughing
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        About the geographical location of the authors of the comments I realized. I am ashamed of the nagging of Moscow, which whines around me. Yes, and their lamentations .....
    2. Vladimir Pozlnyakov 23 September 2015 09: 27 New
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      But the Muscovites every month hold fabulously expensive City Days, football festivals, orchestra "parades" .... The snickering Musquas have long gone mad - a feast during the plague!
  16. Reptiloid 23 September 2015 09: 41 New
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    PRESS ATACHE! Dear, please write about the monitoring of housing and communal services. Where to look? Mom does not know, this is far from me. We also have 6000 rubles.
    The situation is such that it is easier to survive in a big city than in a region. Such a contradiction.
  17. lectar 23 September 2015 09: 45 New
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    5% of Ukrainian goods on the shelves of Crimea ... Tell me why about 1000 trucks were accumulated on the border with the peninsula, are they transporting air? "Repetition of last year's scenario ...", until we step on the rake?
  18. Fotoceva62 23 September 2015 09: 56 New
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    The situation is very reminiscent of what happened in these parts of the Civil. Although there, after all, it is again civil! (... a turn of history, your thread ...). So, these dashing lads straddled the crossings and trying to protect the streams, apparently forgot, or maybe they don’t know (poorly studied or miserable) what happened to their predecessors when the mess ended.
    These freaks are used against Russia. Very timely, they pecked, exactly to Syria. Yes, and bite Russia in the open dumb, and neither I nor I and the hut are not mine (they are children). They have no time. The power supply to the Crimea will be commissioned in early December, plus its own capacity. In short, it’s compressible. If only the Siluanovs, Nabbulins, Ulyukaevs, Menyayly and others did not bother us. I apologize, I did not mention everyone, this is the case of the prosecutor's office of the UK.
  19. shonsu 23 September 2015 10: 17 New
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    Ukraine last year our brain soared for six months, and what are we not able to pull for two months without concluding contracts on unfavorable conditions for us?
  20. Megatron 23 September 2015 10: 20 New
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    About housing and communal services - I will not say how the country's energy sector ended up in private hands, I think everyone already knows this. Now there is still a bunch of all sorts of sales companies - intermediaries who resell to us our electricity and sit there all sorts of thieves. Why is the electricity that is exported more than 2 times cheaper than what the different "distributors" supply to our population ???

    So people in Armenia came out to protest against the new tariffs, for some reason they were immediately branded “5th column”, they said that they were loosening the situation in the country, seduced by the machinations of the State Department, etc. And here, too, was an angry article. But the situation is no better for us, only the people are more patient, only in the morning I read the news that in 2016 officials will be indexed by an average of 8% of sn.
  21. shonsu 23 September 2015 10: 32 New
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    Wow, what’s my flag beautiful, I wonder whose it is? )))
  22. VladimS 23 September 2015 11: 21 New
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    My small city (20 tons) turned out to owe about 260 million for gas over the past year. as??? HZ !!! this is roughly speaking each resident (incl. Infants) turned out to be about 13tyrs! Well, people came out on (Maidan), well, they screamed ... sense? and you, Ukraine, Ukraine ... to hell with her, you need to restore order at home! I think there are a lot of such cities.

    For ease of understanding. Costs for the year.
    12X (20000 x 80) = 19 rubles per person - 200 rubles / year.
    This is despite the fact that it is necessary that literally the whole city (residents) does not make a single payment for a whole year. With enterprises .., there is another story.
    I xs, how they counted 13 sput there, only as in my opinion, it was either intentionally done by the city leadership or ...
    And then, where are these prices, more than 1 tyr / person, per month for gas ??
    Some garbage.
  23. zoknyay82 23 September 2015 11: 39 New
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    Joseph Vissarionovich oh how not enough to restore order.

    Lawrence Palych, colleague, Lawrence Palych ...
  24. AdekvatNICK 23 September 2015 12: 39 New
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    Well then ban the import in general from there so that their hubs themselves work for themselves))
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    LMaksim 23 September 2015 13: 38 New
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    I don’t know how efficiently it is to blackmail Crimea outages. Russia can turn off the same gas, in principle, as I recently wrote in my comment. And then Ukraine’s affairs will be worse than now. The idea of ​​a fraternal suffering people is also doubtful. In fact, it smacks of masahism because, in this case, Poroshenko and Co. are sitting on the goodwill of Moscow. Moscow will support the people of Ukraine with discounts and help, so Poroshenko and the nations will remain in power. Moscow will not be able to give, the people will get tired of enduring and take to the streets. Their regime recognized the Russian Federation as an aggressor. So why should we support them?
  26. Wolka 23 September 2015 13: 49 New
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    Ukraine is not a country or even a state, it is a rotting fetid swamp, where power strikes with its next senile ideas and actions of the electorate ...
  27. doc67 23 September 2015 14: 10 New
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    The question is, with whom did this chuhan take off his suit?

    A homeless man lent a campaign ...
  28. 97110 23 September 2015 16: 18 New
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    The Russian government has made and is making titanic efforts to minimize such dependence.
    Dear Author! Explain what such titanic efforts the Russian Government has made and is doing? If in the besieged Leningrad - more than 70 years have passed, the war was terrible - the cable along the bottom of Lake Ladoga nevertheless managed to stretch out until 1944. What, offend the blockades, they stretched out much faster? Did they have the lost technology, the capabilities of the whole country? What was it that they had that allowed to jokingly surpass the titanic efforts of the Government of Russia, which is soon puffing up for 2 years? And again, no time! You’d better not write about this disgrace. Last year, the topic was discussed. Everything is. No desire to break the trickle can? Happily literate will explain to me about the overflow and cosine fi. And about "there is no excess energy", and about "imagine how much energy is needed, what section of the cable is needed. Yes, no one does such heels from that war, it is necessary to order in the USA, and they will ask for that money and impose sanctions." Do you know the reason? Write. Do not know - do not disgrace. And do not disgrace the titanic government. It itself can.
  29. Arkan 23 September 2015 17: 04 New
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    All will be muddied on the border of Crimea and Ukraine, it is nothing more than putting the border with the Russian Federation under control, but not with the “Cossack state”, but with gangs.
  30. Filxnumx 23 September 2015 19: 41 New
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    rent for the off season (for kopeck piece-6tr)
    I live in Ryazan in the kopeck piece (53 m residential). In summer I pay 2 - 2,5 tyr, in winter 4,5 - 5 tyr. Kuzbass will be closer to the Urals and Western Siberia is nearby, why is heating so expensive? Clearly, the CC is to blame
  31. arrows 23 September 2015 20: 28 New
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    Extra-krymsky Tatars, outside the Tatar Chubars, it seems that something in the Cancer Conservatory was wise
  32. aud13 23 September 2015 22: 12 New
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    Regarding the shortage of electricity in the Crimea.
    For almost a year now, talk has been heard about how the cable will be pulled through the Taman Isthmus, how backup diesel power plants will be introduced, and how additional capacities will be built in the electric power industry.
    But I’ve never heard anyone say that energy-saving work is underway. And this direction can sometimes be much larger and faster can reduce the need for electric and heat energy.
    Why not parallel to this direction?
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    Dzhamileva put in a cockatiel, so that he was popularly shown how they are sitting under the article for "rape." Morem xp .... ov.
  34. vladimirvn 23 September 2015 23: 06 New
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    The 15 largest US banks unanimously recognized Ukraine’s default on September 19, according to Newsfront. At the same time, Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk during the next speech in the Verkhovna Rada promised Ukrainian citizens GDP in Switzerland and an average salary of two thousand dollars.
    For this, according to the Ukrainian prime minister, it is necessary to fulfill a number of conditions, including writing off a debt of $ 3,6 billion, as well as receiving financial assistance from the IMF.
    1. Das Boot 24 September 2015 12: 35 New
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      The 15 largest US banks unanimously recognized Ukraine’s default on September 19, according to Newsfront. At the same time, Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk during his next speech in the Verkhovna Rada promised Ukrainian citizens GDP in Switzerland and an average salary of $ XNUMX thousand

      Well, default - such garbage, have not been announced - then no. Like a gopher. laughing The canonical economy quietly deteriorates in mothballs)))
  35. Stoler 23 September 2015 23: 32 New
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    RUSSIA SUPPORTS THE MAIDAN with its discounts and strengthens the "rating" of Halyavchenko Poroshenko!
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      RUSSIA SUPPORTS MAIDAN WITH ITS DISCOUNTS

      Enough about discounts, it reduces cheekbones. Do not interfere with a bunch of economic and political reasons. Wider and deeper look laughing
  36. a housewife 24 September 2015 03: 07 New
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    People living in apartments - I am sincerely sorry for you (in terms of payment of housing and communal services). We have private problems in our private homes, but they are precisely our own. It broke - we fix it, it flowed out - we shut it off, it’s cold - turn on the boiler, turn it hot - turn it off. Nobody will flood and knock on the wall. Nobody owes us anything, but, most importantly, we owe nothing to anyone. And it’s impossible not to pay for gas and water, there is no neighbor for whom you can save debts. And no single mother will be unscrewed, and no drunk. You don’t pay, they will come, they will disconnect, your problems. Maybe it’s not possible to simply evict defaulters and forcibly exchange apartments with them for the private sector? 10 families to relocate to the city, the rest will pay.
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    Faster need to solve the problem of energy independence of the Crimea. These and rapists can do what you want.
  38. Das Boot 24 September 2015 12: 29 New
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    normally tatarva under patriotic dressing profit guarded itself. Now try to pull the Tatar mafia to the organized crime group - to hell there, patriots, what ...