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How are things with the "egg capsule"?

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In the economic segment of the foreign press, materials began to appear much less frequently in which the authors reasoned over the period of time “the Russian economy would collapse after the exhaustion of reserve funds”. Even at the beginning of this year, reflections often boiled down to the fact that, it remains to wait quite a bit until Russia squander both the Reserve Fund (RZF) and the National Wealth Fund (NWF), proest and drink away the gold reserve. They say that the sanctions and the fall in oil prices will do everything in order for the "bloody regime to fall." Now, however, such expectations are either not spoken at all, or are expressed with greater caution. What are the main reasons for such restraint? Own problems? Not only.


To understand this, you need to refer to the information of the Ministry of Finance of Russia about the mentioned funds and the volumes of their contents, as well as compare the dynamics of these volumes with what was during the previous global economic crisis in 2008-2010.

On 1 September 2015, the volume of funds in the Reserve Fund was almost 4,7 trillion. rubles (about 70,7 billion dollars), and this is 6,4% of Russia's GDP. If we continue to consider the funds of the fund in dollar terms, then $ 70,7 billion is the anti-record from January 1 of 2013. The average fall in the savings of the Reserve Fund over the period, based on the same dollar figures, was 16,8%. But there are some nuances that need special attention. In fact, the volume of savings in the RZF has been falling not since January 2013, but since October last year, when this level reached 91 billion dollars. The percentages of falling are even higher, and therefore, it would seem, it is necessary to beat with a sledgehammer on a hanging rail and shout in a foul language that “there are not enough dollars in the fund”. But is it necessary ...

How are things with the "egg capsule"?


The fact is that the Reserve Fund is stored in dollars, euros and pounds sterling (this is a separate topic for discussion, and such a topic is discussed quite often with different arguments for and against), but RsF funds are spent Of course, trust the reports of the Ministry of Finance, mainly on domestic projects. That is, they are spent not in dollars, but already in rubles, and it will be somewhat unreasonable not to mention the dynamics of the fund's savings already in ruble terms. Due to the well-known dynamics of the ruble exchange rate, since January 2013 has grown by more than 2 trillion. rubles. Doubtful growth, which took place mainly due to the growth of the dollar? .. Well, why is "doubtful"? The ruble savings growth virtually painlessly allows you to manage the budget deficit, despite the fact that the burden on the budget due to a significant drop in oil prices and other economic difficulties for the Russian economy is serious. In a table published September 1 on Ministry of Finance websiteIt is indicated that the Reserve Fund has recently been used to finance the budget deficit.

By the way, over the past period 2015, the Central Bank replenished the reserve in gold by about 112 tons. This is 44% (!) Higher than the same period last year. The cumulative gold reserves in Russia's international reserves increased by 6%, reaching 47,7 billion dollars.

On 1 September 2015, the volume of funds in the National Wealth Fund amounted to $ 73,76 billion or 4,9 trillion. rubles (6,7% of GDP). In dollar terms, this is an anti-record figure since 2008. But if in rubles, then this is one of the best indicators for the whole history existence of the National Welfare Fund. More funds in rubles in the fund’s accounts were in February 2015, which is also explained by the ruble exchange rate against the dollar. And here, it would seem, everything is far from positive. But is it really so far? After all, the funds of the National Wealth Fund have recently been actively used to support companies strategically important for Russia and to increase the efficiency of the largest Russian banks in the context of Western sanctions against them.
In other words, if the ruble masses did not allow to allocate sufficient funds for large banks of the country, then banks simply could not lend to individuals and legal entities, and the Central Bank would hardly have had the opportunity to return the key rate to a level that is relatively digestible for doing business equal to a tall bar, but no longer 17 with the odd percent). Funds from the National Wealth Fund went to VTB, Atomenergo, Russian Railways and other banks and companies. But, unfortunately, one cannot say that all companies without exception that received funds from the National Wealth Fund used these funds efficiently. Care Vladimir Yakunin - an indicator?

And now about comparing the rate of fall of the dollar mass of the Reserve Fund with the period of the previous crisis. From February 2008 to February 2011, these savings have decreased 5 times! From $ 125 (2008) in the Reserve Fund remains 25 (2011). The fall in the volumes of “dollar” RZF funds for 20 months (from 2013 year) was, as already noted, 16,8%. There is no need to resort to elements of higher mathematics in order to understand that the back-up dice “are firing” is not at all as active as it was 7-8 years ago.

And why, in fact, “burn”? This is not the term that should be used today. It is possible to criticize the so-called economic segment of the Russian authorities for a whole lot of reasons, but not in the case of spending money "pot". These funds do not burn exclusively on maintaining the ruble rate at the pre-crisis level, as they tried to do in 2008-2009, these funds, at least officially, spend on other needs. Of course, I would like to see more intensive investments of state savings in the real sector of the economy, in the growth of domestic production capacity. But after all, with the great temptation to take and spend all the reserve accumulations in the current situation, there is a great risk of satisfying the very aspirations of the “friends” who so much want to reset the Russian reserves in order to take Russia, which is called, barehanded, even if the country has a nuclear shield. and powerful army.

So after all, it was already - they really took us with bare hands. Or rather, they themselves presented themselves to the “friends” also in the gift wrapping. At the same time, many fellow citizens also rejoiced at the exchange of a powerful state with colossal wealth and potentials for “freedom”, preached by all sorts of “American voices”. There are such fellow citizens who are ready once again to be happy for a similar exchange, and today ...

Then — in, God forgive me, the post-perestroika years, the funds were no longer spent either on investments in infrastructure projects, or on maintaining the exchange rate, or on stabilizing deafening inflationary dynamics. It was simply announced to everyone that the country didn’t have the means, as the country was “robbed by the damned commies” ... And the majority believed it ...

I would like to think that the lessons of 90-x (including 1998-th) along with the lessons of 2008-2010 are still learned, and the reserve funds will not be either “Kudrinskaya” “sacred cow” or an object of initiatives in the style of “to spend everything to at least a week live like people, ”and will turn into a full-fledged element of Russian security and sovereignty with a planned investment in both the banking and the real sectors of the economy. In general, I would like to hope that there will be no fanaticism in both directions, and then it will be a truly invaluable experience.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 21 September 2015 06: 03
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    how long "the Russian economy will collapse after the exhaustion of reserve funds
    the baboon in that year "to shreds" tore our economy .. waiting for when we begin to give up! wassat
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 21 September 2015 07: 25
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      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      Abuin back in that year "to shreds" tore our economy .. waiting for when we begin to give up!

      During the reign of Barack Obama, US government debt increased by 70 percent. Republicans are urging the government to reduce spending on government needs.

      The US national debt has stepped over the $ 18 trillion mark, provoking a new wave of criticism of the Barack Obama administration because of its chosen budget spending path, Fox News reports.

      According to the American channel, when Barack Obama led the United States in 2009, the national debt amounted to 10,6 trillion dollars. Thus, under Obama, it increased by 70%.


      But Russia's debt today is about 55 billion dollars with GDP of almost 4 trillion of the same dollars.
      1. dvg79
        dvg79 21 September 2015 10: 55
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        What debt, do not specify? And I read that the total exceeds 600 billion greens.
        1. gosha1970
          gosha1970 21 September 2015 11: 20
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          He is just a naive Chukchi youth. I did not calculate corporate debts and debts of the USSR. Total, something there is about 570 billion.
          1. Aleksandr72
            Aleksandr72 21 September 2015 19: 13
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            I did not calculate corporate debts and debts of the USSR.

            Or maybe we will also calculate the debts of the tsarist government that the ruling family of the Romanovs had done during the First World War, and we will also recognize them and start returning them. Here the French government will be delighted - it will be possible to cover all the losses on expenses for the Mistrals many times, and even with a large surplus - there will be left for refugees. And how happy the French Rothschilds will be.
            Well, his n.f.i.g, for n.f.i.g. accustom "creditors" to freebies.
            Russia, of course, is not Ukraine to forgive its debts to everyone, but not so rich as to hang on the state the debts of private corporations, etc.
            I have the honor.
          2. Alekseev
            Alekseev 21 September 2015 21: 16
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            Quote: gosha1970
            He is just a naive Chukchi youth. Didn't count corporate long

            State debt - government debt and corporate debt are "two big differences."
            Well, a private corporation will default. Yes also force majeure will whip up - sanctions. Yes, and will bring to default the best assets ... and another company will be formed. The right receiver she or not ... what Understand the head. It is possible by court order and get some unprofitable assets in Russia along with the need to maintain them, pay taxes, etc.
            Lenders will not "throw their caps into the air" from such a decision.
            Therefore, in spite of sanctions and screeches, business circles of the same West will do everything so that words can not be driven into a corner.
            By this, no panic.
            But there is only one way out - it is necessary to heed the advice of Comrade Advisor. Glazyev.
            Tighter regulation is necessary.
            And things will get better! yes
        2. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 21 September 2015 11: 54
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          Quote: dvg79
          What debt, do not specify? And I read that the total exceeds 600 billion greens.

          Compare with the aggregate American? laughing
          http://usdebtclock.org
          The so-called civilized countries are poor. And if the USA still has resources, then Europe is generally bare-ass.

          Read the article "Massive borrowings hide years of negative GDP growth in the EU and the USA"http://www.awarablogs.com/ru/study-on-real-gdp-growth-net-of-debt/?option=com_ea
          syblog & view = entry & id = 155
          1. Tektor
            Tektor 21 September 2015 12: 33
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            It’s time for the Ministry of Finance to make up budget plans based on the forecast for the change in the indicator (gold reserves minus debt). And stop paying attention to the cost of a barrel of oil. If the indicator grows next year, then it is possible to increase the budget of the next year by the corresponding amount. This will be the new budget rule.
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 21 September 2015 12: 50
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              Only after releasing liberalism and other compradors, of which they spawned after the dismemberment of the USSR.
          2. onix757
            onix757 21 September 2015 21: 39
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            Not an ungrateful thing to compare with the Yankees. They generate dollars, the whole world (including Russia) serves their debts, and they, in turn, rotate the same world in a causal place
        3. g1v2
          g1v2 21 September 2015 14: 00
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          Often confused different debts. Russia's external debt is the total debt abroad of the state, Central Bank, commercial banks and companies - it decreased by $ 165 billion during the crisis. That is, the withdrawal of capital that people like to scare so much is simply paying off debts. Russia's foreign debt has decreased to $ 555 billion - of which 41,5 billion is the debt of the state itself, 10 billion is the debt of the central bank, that is, the debt of the state and central bank is exactly those 51,5 billion that they are talking about. Of the remaining 500 billion, approximately 130 billion are debts of commercial banks and 270 are debts of companies. In general, these are all cheap European loans that everyone joyfully took and which must be repaid. However, these 500 billion are not related to the state-owned institution and the state is not responsible for them. However, they are declining.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 21 September 2015 17: 51
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            Quote: g1v2
            approximately 130 billion are debts of commercial banks

            How many of these 130 are debts of foreign banks and their subsidiaries ???

            Currently Société Générale is one of the three largest foreign banks in the Russian market. In Russia, it has several subsidiary commercial banks:

            PJSC Rosbank is one of the ten largest banks in Russia; as of February 1, 2008, net assets amounted to 526 billion rubles. Since February 2008, Société Générale has owned just over 60% of its shares. It is the main asset of the group in Russia.
            LLC Rusfinance Bank is one of the 50 largest banks in Russia, as of July 1, 2009, net assets amounted to 100 billion rubles. It takes first place in the car loan market among private banks in Russia.
            Deltacredit Bank is a specialized mortgage commercial bank.
            ALD automotive is a subsidiary of Société Générale Group, the first multi-brand company in Russia to provide services for operational (operational) leasing, long-term full-service car rental, and fleet management.


            The same applies to companies, most of which belong to offshore companies.

            Ugh on them. Spit and grind ...
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      3. -Barbarian-
        -Barbarian- 21 September 2015 20: 08
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        So, as political information: Public debt counter - $ 417 228 454 119. And continues to grow on 1 000 green candy wrappers every second ...
        The author described everything beautifully and tried to say that the state is now less and less sticking its hand into the people's "money-box". But here questions arise:
        1. Are the state authorities going to, in the conditions of the economic blockade and sanctions wars (provoked by them), still pull out this "lascivious hand" and start really investing in means of production and in city-forming industries, and not in Olympiads with championships?
        2. If the "Kubyshka", famously so, was nominally doubled in rubles, using the most impudent method - "dropping" the ruble, and starting, in fact, the process of impoverishment of the population and provoking an increase in prices, then is there any sense in SUCH "swelling" of the Reserve Bank ? This is just another cheating trick in which the rich and those close to the authorities get richer, and everyone else gets poorer.
        3. The world economy has increasingly become sick with global speculation. And this despite the fact that the bulk of the money supply is "over the hill"! And here it is like playing poker - whoever has more cash will simply crush opponents with cash. And here our Medvedev and Putin have no prospects at all, since they are "playing", not they.
        Regular games with oil prices, a constant increase in its production and resale almost for next to nothing (compared to the recent past) actually reduces the amount of dollar profit of the state, forcing the Russian Federation to spend "green papers" faster on the purchase of a whole range of goods, the production of which was ditched with such breakneck speed in 20 years. And all the talk about import substitution is in favor of the poor, since it is beyond the power of the country to eliminate 90% of dependence at least in the same pharmaceutical industry ... Since for such "economic competitions" we also need personnel (which are not available now because of "reforms in education") and money that "flees" from the country at record speeds and volumes.

        As Putin said: "Import substitution is not a fetish, it is the accelerated development of high-tech industries in your country. It is primarily about the most important technologies, about dual-use technologies." And this means that, first of all, they will develop the military-industrial complex with billions of dollars in investments, because it is very capital-intensive, but there will not be enough money for the same drugs (more precisely, for factories for their production) ... We will be ill, but on a ship with torpedo. The rest of the industries are the same - to one degree or another.
        1. -Barbarian-
          -Barbarian- 21 September 2015 20: 12
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          4. According to calculations, the "net" capital outflow over the past years is striking in its scope! And this is hitting our economy hard. And if we compare the data on legal and “gray” capital outflows, the latter clearly dominates in Russia, exceeding the official indicators by 2-3 times. But the government prefers not to talk about this, distracting us with either Ukraine or sports plans.
          The cash outflow in 2014 amounted to a record maximum amount of $ 150 billion, compared to $ 61 billion in 2013. The Central Bank, focusing on the cost of one barrel of oil, makes a forecast that the import of money this year will be about $ 120 billion. And if the price on the world oil market drops to critical $ 40 per 159 liters of oil, then there is an option to increase the outflow of capital to $ 130 billion. If you look at the outflow of capital, statistics show a direct relationship between the cost of oil and export finance. According to the forecasts of the Central Bank, the outflow of capital from the country over the 2015 year will amount to an average of $ 118 billion, taking into account the plus or minus $ 10 billion. So, in 2016, it is planned to withdraw money from the country in the amount of $ 87 billion, and in 2017 - by $ 80 billion.
          This capital outflow is affected by the disproportion of taxation between foreign offshore companies and domestic investors. Another reason is banal money laundering.
          I think, there is no need to talk about our rates on loans, which are 15% higher than Western ones, about the most "progressive" taxation, about our companies that are registered in Western offshores, as well as about those who stole - and have been trying for 25 years hide "blood" in the West (and to whom our government promises to forgive their "old sins") ... AND SUCH economy is the merit of our authorities.
          But the prevalence of capital outflow over its inflow means a real reduction in resources for the country's economic growth. The annual leakage of a certain share of GDP abroad negatively affects national economic development. The flight of capital from the country leads to a shortage of liquidity in the banking system, which, in turn, affects the volume of lending to the real sector of the economy. ! And here's a joke! Money from the reserve was sent to help banks. And for some strange coincidence, they don’t manage to get this money to the real sector, because they either get lost on speculation with the ruble and currency in our open market for all winds, or are sent to household lending to the population ... Where is it already factories and farms ... they simply can not afford to take money at 17% per annum. In addition, due to the economic crisis over the past few months, about 30% of small and medium-sized enterprises have cut staff and reduced salaries for employees. In total, compared with the beginning of the 2013 year, the number of individual entrepreneurs has now decreased by 600 thousand.
          In addition, capital outflows impair the country's ability to service its external debt. Which, as you remember, grows by a "piece of greenery" per second.
          So, we should think, and with WHAT means can we raise the country if these funds "fly away" at a wild speed from our hands, or rather from the hands of our authorities, who are condoning such a plunder of the country.
          5. Since Russia simply has nowhere to take money from, the State Duma will most likely allow further use of funds from the Reserve Fund. But the trouble is that there is nothing to cover these costs. Since Western investment and lending is closed for the country, and its finances simply do not exist, Russia may be bankrupt.
          As a result, what we see today is not even one game of the world "beau monde", it is a complex of circumstances and games, both speculative and manipulative, which our government wants to play ... And from whose "actions", life for the common people is only getting worse.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 22 September 2015 07: 18
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            Quote: -Barbar-
            Cash withdrawal in 2014

            Please provide the structure of the "outflow".

            And after all, in the United States in 2014 it was quite a figure: "In June of this year (2014. VseDoFeNi) in the United States, a net outflow of foreign capital in the amount of $ 153,5 billion was registered."

            Quote: -Barbar-
            Since Russia simply has nowhere to take money from

            But did someone cancel the issue? The United States doesn’t care about this at all ...

            Quote: -Barbar-
            As a result, what we see today is not even one game of the world "beau monde", it is a complex of circumstances and games, both speculative and manipulative, which our government wants to play ... And from whose "actions", life for the common people is only getting worse.

            Maybe it was the West that declared an economic war against Russia, calling it "sanctions"? Also, in the background rapidly impoverished West, more and more borrowed, Russia looks more than good and has almost no debt.

            Funny.
            The slowdown in the EU’s largest economy, Germany, is mainly due to the problems of the peripheral countries of the European Union, which can also affect the global economy as a whole. Germany's external debt is 176% of GDP. Francehaving the second largest economy in the EU, according to experts, has an average probability of default, percentage of external debt to GDP - 235%.

            The third place in the world is occupied by the Japanese economy, the peculiarity of which is that its main creditors are its own companies and banks. Japanese national debt - 233% of GDP, while external - 50% of GDP. The government plans to make the budget surplus by 2020, the probability of default, according to experts, is low.

            Russia's public debt is 36,0 billion dollars, the share of external debt is within 10% of GDP. This is one of the lowest values ​​among states. The maximum level of Russia's public debt reached in 1998 - 146,4% of GDP.

            That's what the authorities of "THIS" country have brought to - they have reduced the debt by as much as 136% !!!
            1. -Barbarian-
              -Barbarian- 22 September 2015 15: 23
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              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Please provide the outflow structure.

              The data presented here is the official opinion of the Central Bank, so "dive" to them on the site to make sure. Moreover, as it happens in our country with you, these data are only the facade that we were forced to show, so to speak, to throw the bone to the people - so as not to pester with unnecessary questions. Here the situation is the same as with Rosstat - the figures are "ordered by the government." And this has long been noticed by economists and experts. How can the economy be built, even if they do not want to show openly the statement of the fact of the economic decline, so that, after seeing negative trends, they can change the wrong course in the economy, and instead they provide us with only a "polished and stretched" version ...
              By the way, you probably did not overlook it - I also said that the illegal "gray" capital outflow in Russia clearly exceeds the official figures by 2-3 times. Unfortunately, no one here will give you specific figures, but judging by the fact that theft is a national feature of the Russian bureaucracy (either the governors keep billions at home, then they find jewelry in kilograms ...), then, for sure, there are sky-high figures. And no matter how many people here assure me that the head (Putin and co) does not know what the hands (officials) are doing, it is in no way possible to believe it, since in real life, a person with such "walking hands" was quickly "cleaned up" as inadequate. Well, if the "head" knows and allows them to plunder, this means that he is either in the share, or he needs to change the responsible post ...
              1. -Barbarian-
                -Barbarian- 22 September 2015 15: 23
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                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                But did someone cancel the issue? The United States doesn’t care about this at all ...

                Hmmm ... Apparently, you recently began to study the issue of issue of money in the Russian Federation. Yes, I would be in the forefront of voting for emissions aimed at the needs of the state. But in our country, emissions cannot work for the economy, because it is not the task of the Central Bank to stimulate economic growth.
                "The current policy of the Central Bank has led to a loss of control over the financial and foreign exchange market, to chaos in this market and, as a result, completely paralyzed the investment process. regime, the Americans, taking advantage of the fact that our Central Bank withdrew itself from the regulation of the foreign exchange and financial market, transferred it to a turbulent regime. In this regime it is impossible to increase investments in the development of the real sector. production. "

                Glazyev correctly said:
                "From the point of view of economic theory, the issue of money is the advancement of economic growth. If you want to have economic growth, you need to ensure an increase in the supply of money. This is how all monetary systems in the world work, without exception. The US Federal Reserve prints dollars for treasury bonds. That is, they print money 90% for the state, which uses them mainly for the purposes of socio-economic development. And the money issue of the dollar is arranged in such a way that first the amount of necessary government borrowings is determined, Treasury bonds are issued for this amount, and then the Fed buys these Treasury bonds by printing under them money.

                All examples of the "economic miracle" indicate that the main source of the rapid increase in production and investment was the issue of credit. But the issue of credit is not into the air, as we do, not at the key rate for replenishing liquidity, but credit issue for specific purposes, for priorities, tasks of developing production, the production sphere, and promising areas. In general, this is an elementary truth, which, unfortunately, is completely rejected by monetarists from the Central Bank. "
                1. -Barbarian-
                  -Barbarian- 22 September 2015 15: 26
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                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  Maybe it was the West that declared an economic war against Russia, calling it "sanctions"?

                  You, apparently, did not notice, but I did not say that Russia declared war on the West, I said that Russia provoked the West to do so. Agree, this is not the same thing. The point is that in our world only the strongest can change the order (and then only after making sure that no one will punish him). I would very much like to think that the Russian Federation is the strongest power, but, unfortunately, this is not the case. It is impossible to change and increase our borders, tearing off a piece from the fraternal (as Putin tells us all the time) people (well, it’s not brotherly, whatever one may say), as this shakes the current world order. This is an act that NO ONE in the world has accepted (for various reasons). As a result, we got an invoice. And note that the Russian Federation cannot bill anyone, but only "claims and bewilderment." And this is understandable, since the Russian Federation, at the moment, does not have a strong rear (economy), no development plans (what kind of strategy is this that is rewritten every 2-3 years), no Idea (the state emasculated itself), or Faith (which would unite all citizens). In short, sheer cosmopolitanism and multiculturalism, behind which there is nothing that makes the state strong! Hence the "external show-off" of our guarantor. And this only convinces me that the "annexation" of Crimea is an absolutely ill-conceived and adventurous project, for which we, you and our grandchildren, will still have to pay.
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                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  That's what the authorities of "THIS" country have brought to - they have reduced the debt by as much as 136% !!!

                  It's funny, if this is the only thing that our authorities can be proud of, then I am very disappointed. Tell me, why was the debt not lowered to zero at such a rate of write-off? Was there not enough urine? Most likely there is another answer. All these years Russia has been a donor of the world economy, not a recipient. The outflow has been going on for decades. The cream was skimmed at the time of the collapse of the USSR - according to various estimates, they took out from 1 to 3 trillion. forever green. Then the trickle dried up and the West (with its manic desire to grab more for itself) had to think about how to continue siphoning resources from the country. They came up with an ingenious idea - they made our economy in the form of a pipe for pumping resources to the West. And so that the Russians do not flutter too much, they stretch the pleasure in time (the slow robbery is not so striking). First, they brought the oil to the maximum, so that we get used to it, and then they returned us all to our place from "heaven". They are in the black, and we .... (well, substitute the appropriate word yourself).
                  As a result, "manual control" of the country, in which mistakes begin to move from the category of statistical error to an intermittent series of failures in country management.
                  But the fact that you and people like you do not notice the abyss that we are approaching, only proves that the authorities are dealing with at least one thing. Propaganda and distraction.
              2. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 22 September 2015 19: 31
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                Quote: -Barbar-
                The data given here

                It is easier to rant about a topic than to provide data on churn.

                Quote: -Barbar-
                Unfortunately, no one here will give you specific numbers

                Actually, no one doubted.

                Quote: -Barbar-
                that theft is a national feature of Russian bureaucracy

                Where to ours. There Americans only saw the defense annually, so much that we have enough for almost the entire rearmament program of the army. It’s important to call it lobbying, and laundering with goodwill and everything will be tip-top.

                Quote: -Barbar-
                to believe it is not possible at all, since in real life, a person with such "walking little hands" was quickly "cleaned up" as inadequate

                And gentlemen from the World Bank believe that Russia, under the strict guidance of Putin in 2012, took the 5 place in the world in terms of PPP GDP, ahead of Germany.
                And I remind you that "Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
                And I will repeat it, as long as there are those who do not understand this.
                »© VseDoFeNi
                1. -Barbarian-
                  -Barbarian- 22 September 2015 23: 09
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                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  It is easier to rant about a topic than to provide data on churn.

                  Yes please! Eat don’t hang on. Pictures below wink
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  -Barwar- Unfortunately, no one here will give you specific numbers.
                  Actually, no one doubted.

                  Well, I understand that you cannot copy a paragraph completely, the main thing is to take the phrase out of context. But it was about "gray" schemes of capital outflow, for which no one makes a calculation. Well, I roughly determined your "level".
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  - Barbarian - that theft is a national feature of Russian officials
                  Where to ours. There Americans only saw the defense annually, so much that we have enough for almost the entire rearmament program of the army. It’s important to call it lobbying, and laundering with goodwill and everything will be tip-top.

                  And what does America have to do with it ??? Here in his native swamp it would deal with thieves, and not open his mouth to the bourgeois countries and their problems. In their capitalist morality, these countries profess one simple rule - take everything that your hands reach, and if cunning does not help, then take it by force. The more they saw, the easier it is for us.
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  And gentlemen from the World Bank believe that Russia, under the strict guidance of Putin in 2012, took the 5 place in the world in terms of PPP GDP, ahead of Germany.

                  You said something about ranting. Well, bring the facts "to the studio", and then, you see, some may consider you unfounded idle talk. Well, the last one is the lyrics. But seriously, take a look at the ratings that were "awarded" to the Russian Federation ... Waste rating, it seems ?! How it happens! You are crucifying here about that. that we already live better than the burghers, and the gentlemen from the West have already assigned us to the "trash heap" ...
                  1. -Barbarian-
                    -Barbarian- 22 September 2015 23: 15
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                    This is the second leaf

                    Depending on the direct interpretation of the term “capital”, it is customary to distinguish between two types of assets to be withdrawn. The first is understood as financial capital that leaves the country in the course of such operations and transactions as fictitious transactions, artificial and intentional underestimation of prices when selling an asset abroad and non-return of foreign currency. For each of the above methods, there are special mechanisms for withdrawing funds from the country, including tax manipulation, the creation of fictitious firms, artificial transactions in financial markets, incorrect accounting of funds in accounts, concealment of ultimate beneficiaries and numerous hidden violations of national laws.
                    The second way of capital flight from the country is direct physical movement of assets abroad and includes mechanisms such as smuggling of raw materials and final products, transfer of cash, valuable metals and their equivalents abroad. In carrying out the withdrawal of capital in both ways, legal support is actively applied in the interpretation of regulatory acts, the creation of complex financial schemes and corruption cooperation with persons necessary for the successful transfer of funds.
                  2. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 23 September 2015 07: 00
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                    Quote: -Barbar-
                    Yes please! Eat don’t hang on. Pictures below wink

                    So again. At the last. For it is impossible to explain anything to the insane liberals, although sometimes a miracle happens and they begin to understand what is really happening.

                    If you are FORCED to maintain expenses at the right level, to borrow and are not able to earn enough for these expenses, you are a pauper. These are precisely the countries of the West you adore, and certainly not Russia, which has almost paid off its debt.
                    Quote: Massive borrowing hides years of negative GDP growth in the EU and the US








                    In fact, the review is a liberal myth known to you, only with great emphasis on the economy. I highly recommend that both “quilted jackets” and “creacles”, and people far from politics, spend a couple of hours and at least leaf through this wonderful work: http://www.awaragroup.com/upload/Awara-Study-Russian-Economy- Rus.pdf




                    Understand, well, do not understand, your problem.
                    1. -Barbarian-
                      -Barbarian- 23 September 2015 15: 36
                      0
                      1. Your stubborn and inadequate perception of the world makes me start worrying about you. My dear fellow, why are you so zealously considering me a "liberal"? You can keep this "proud" name for yourself, since it is you who stand up for the correctness of our government's actions. Let me remind you of the main development trend of the Russian Federation: “Putin assured that despite the crisis, the Russian economy will remain liberal and market-oriented, and the privatization process will accelerate. The state will ensure stability of the foreign exchange market and fight inflation.” Medvedev is of the same opinion. And if you are for their policy, you are a "liberal".
                      1. -Barbarian-
                        -Barbarian- 23 September 2015 15: 40
                        0
                        2. I'm just quietly stunned by such "educators" like you. Why are you all slipping me 13 years of analysis? Now it's already 15 in the yard .. And, oh, horror !, everything in the world has changed so dashingly over these 2 years. Moreover, this analysis somehow one-sidedly shows the differences in GDP. Only RF, EU and USA. Where are the rest of the countries (since you are so fond of comparisons)? Or are they not suitable enough? If we compare, then let's go with the best, not the worst, okay ?!
                        And, for example, such a funny indicator as "GDP growth minus debt growth" was chosen ... As an economist, I fully understand that the presentation of analytical material from such an angle sets itself the task of "blurring" the reader's eyes. In short, throwing dust in your eyes. And yes, by the way, I read this "study". Did not impress. In the spirit of the times. I already told you that Rosstat and the Ministry of Finance use the same data.
                        Such "GDP growth" by no means reflects the real state of affairs in the economy. This is just a numbers game.
                        But the indicator is Real - GDP per capita. This is an important economic indicator of material well-being in the country, and not a bunch of cars in the yards, as you said.
                        And yes, I want to add one more thing - we spoke with you, keeping in mind different concepts of state. debt. I have a common debt (external, internal, regional debts, etc.), because the DEBT is a debt and it must be repaid in any case (especially since we are paying for the state debt, in fact - taxes, fees ...). But for some reason you have ONLY external, and even that "shaggy year". I notify you - external state. debt at the moment is 51,2 billion dollars - as of 01.08.15. (data of the Ministry of Finance). So your $ 36 billion data is very outdated. So, sir, the debt is growing, oh it is growing! Since those blessed times of 2013
                        I took a little time to analyze here. Inquire, please be so kind ...
                      2. -Barbarian-
                        -Barbarian- 23 September 2015 15: 43
                        0
                        3.
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        If you are FORCED to maintain expenses at the right level, to borrow and are not able to earn enough for these expenses, you are a pauper. These are precisely the countries of the West you adore, and certainly not Russia, which has almost paid off its debt.

                        It seems that you are not listening at all to what I am telling you ... I am talking about the Western countries only in passing, mainly about Russia. You are here on ... "tears" ... start trying to convince me that I like bourgeois countries, giving examples with their participation. I don't care much about their costs. I repeat once again - their problems should worry us insofar as we have our own problems - a cart and a small cart.
                        The problems facing the Russian Federation now are very unpleasant against the background of the fact that the West has cut us off from "long" and "medium" money, so there is NOTHING to restore what was destroyed in 25 years. More precisely, money will be squeezed out of Russia - from you and me. And the first signs were, just, accelerated privatization, deprivation of benefits, then "sawing" of Pension savings, then shoved their "lascivious hands" into the Reserve Fund. And, believe me, they will not stop until they are almost to the end! Money "runs away" (you might have seen this earlier). The money that is collected in the Russian Federation (in part) will be spent on products with dual-use technologies (and this is the military-industrial complex, and not the formation or construction of factories that produce the means of production). In an attempt to preserve the income from the "pipe", the authorities "lowered" the ruble, causing a double rise in prices and making money cheaper, making you and me poorer than 2 years ago in 2013. (so your favorite period). And at the same time, declaring from the stands that the state does not intend to continue to be the main participant in the economy, leaving promising directions to entrepreneurs at the mercy. And what a few thousand "small and big owners" are, I think you are aware, especially against the background of your examples in America you love (this is about lobbying and goodwill). But what is "foreign", here the country, which occupies the 1st place in the world in the production and export of gas, has not yet supplied the Russian Federation with gas. Darkness! But now, only lazy or poor countries are not trying to build alternative energy sources ... Therefore, soon, only we will need our gas.
                        And what awaits us in the end? And it will be something like this - the people will be divided into poor and rich (maybe into categories, castes or estates), then this provision will be consolidated by the Law (something like Serfdom). Well, in the interval between these we will "get high" in full - education "by rank", healthcare for "corvee", and none of the lower classes will have the prospect of "rising". All this will be seasoned with propaganda, so that you get used to it. And, of course, they will draw us an image of the ENEMY, so that we, therefore, constantly and vigilantly forged plowshares into swords.
                        If you are in favor of the current "liberal" policy pursued by a government led by a guarantor, then start preparing your children for the role of servants and messengers. Because only such an unenviable fate will await us "around the corner".
      4. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 22 September 2015 07: 51
        0
        Quote: -Barbar-
        So, as political information:

        The usual liberalistic anti-Russian whining. Nothing new.
        1. -Barbarian-
          -Barbarian- 22 September 2015 15: 27
          0
          5.
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          The usual liberalistic anti-Russian whining. Nothing new.

          I'll tell you this - before you try to put a label on a person, you would at least figure out what kind of nonsense you are talking about. This government of ours adheres to a liberal course. And I, seeing where they are pulling us, oppose this, as you said, "liberal" movement to nowhere.
          And there is nothing anti-Russian here and cannot be. I am for a strong state, and not for those who, with their doctrine and vision, put our country in a pose from the Kama Sutra. And about the whining, then again you gave a blunder. After all, what is whining? "This is focusing your thoughts on the failures of your own or someone else's, instead of focusing on your goals and plans. Accordingly, a person cannot achieve anything significant in life by his efforts and ceases to believe in himself. And the consequence of this can be disappointment in life, cynicism , constant lies, illness and even alcoholism and drugs. " I have not demonstrated any of the above. I only share my view of the world. And the fact that you don't like it is normal. You just live on another planet (just kidding). As they recently said:
          "This is" comfortable patriotism. "This is not painful and without risks, but with one pleasure. This does not affect those diseases and the trouble that is happening in Russia."
          The phrase hit right to the point! The main thing is not to "bother" and believe that the world is exactly the way you invented for yourself. I'm only afraid that sobering up will be painful.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 22 September 2015 19: 47
            0
            Quote: -Barbar-
            This is our government that is following a liberal course.

            Yes, yes ... In a very liberal way it reduces Russia's debt. For the "especially gifted" I will repeat.
            The slowdown in the EU’s largest economy, Germany, is mainly due to the problems of the peripheral countries of the European Union, which can also affect the global economy as a whole. Germany's external debt is 176% of GDP. Francehaving the second largest economy in the EU, according to experts, has an average probability of default, percentage of external debt to GDP - 235%.

            The third place in the world is occupied by the Japanese economy, the peculiarity of which is that its main creditors are its own companies and banks. The national debt of Japan - 233% of GDP, while the external - 50% of GDP. The government plans to make the budget surplus by 2020, the probability of default, according to experts, is low.

            Russia's public debt is 36,0 billion dollars, the share of external debt is within 10% of GDP. This is one of the lowest values ​​among states. The maximum level of Russia's public debt reached in 1998 - 146,4% of GDP.


            PS Whining, this is self-indulgence in feces. So, do not flatter yourself.
            1. -Barbarian-
              -Barbarian- 22 September 2015 23: 17
              0
              continued ...

              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              And I remind you that “Today under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
              And I will repeat it as long as there are those who do not understand this. ”© VseDoFeNi

              Yes, you can even ... tears ... go out, repeating this phrase, you are our exceptional (after all, you have already begun to quote yourself, and this was treated in the recent past) ... In one sentence, you were able to reward the people with the status of "rich "and immediately accused everyone of lack of intelligence, for overpaying. In the 90s, so "suckers" were bred. But this is not a farm and there is no one to breed, do not delude yourself about your missionary role in educating the "uncomprehending". Having a car doesn't make people rich. Its presence only testifies to the fact that everyone around them lives this way. And it just so happened that no one wants to stand out from the crowd. Therefore, the people climb into loans (which, by the way, are so favored by the government, trying to grow out of us CONSUMERS), and then take loans again to pay interest on the previous one, because they spent everything on "washing" purchases. For you, I will give an example of this. In America, the people who were allowed to take out cheap loans have lived like this since the 80s. And now, these "freeloaders" cannot even utter a word against Washington's policy, because they can remind them of unpaid debts. Do you wish us the same "RICH" future?
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Yes, yes ... In a very liberal way it reduces Russia's debt. For the "especially gifted" I repeat ...

              For the "especially gifted" I will remind you: the debt is not $ 36,0 billion, but $ 417,2 billion. Calculate the difference? Or can you yourself? And it grows.
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              PS Whining, this is self-indulgence in feces. So, do not flatter yourself.

              I don’t understand your analogy (apparently the topic of feces is close to you, since you have such knowledge), since I only state the deplorable facts of the fall of our economy, which our authorities modestly call stagnation. And I have no reason to enjoy this misfortune of Russia. Unlike you, who thinks that a capitalistic bright future has already come around ...
  2. evil partisan
    evil partisan 21 September 2015 09: 44
    +5
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    the baboon in that year "to shreds" tore our economy .. waiting for when we begin to give up!

    Fuck him in the anus am . With a twist repeat . This year I got so many potatoes, onions and cabbage that I safely until 2020. I live yes. And there they say we finally can be everything by good. Relatives from Rezh will feed to the extreme smile ... Feed, Andrei Yurich? winked
    1. jjj
      jjj 21 September 2015 10: 19
      0
      In this whole situation, it is interesting that funds are withdrawn from US government bonds and invested in fixed assets important for the country: roads, communications, production facilities, technologies
      1. dvg79
        dvg79 21 September 2015 10: 57
        +2
        Something about the general state of the stagnant economy is not noticeable in these investments.
  3. PPD
    PPD 21 September 2015 10: 59
    +2
    Yeah, the queue is right up to Vladivostok. Already flowers and speeches have been prepared. drinks But it’s like Avon, everything is not and isn’t. Someone out of turn climbed, scoundrel, -Makarevich, what are you? laughing am
  4. Goga101
    Goga101 21 September 2015 15: 47
    +4
    Andrei Yurievich - Colleague, but how do you like this paragraph from the article - quote -
    "... if the ruble mass did not allow the allocation of sufficient amounts of funds for the country's large banks, the banks simply would not be able to lend to individuals and legal entities ..." - eh? Whom and at what% to lend? The Central Bank, having dropped the ruble exchange rate below the spillway, shifted all the costs to you and me, and from the funds that "swelled" because of this - again, as in 2008, they irrevocably distributed 1 trillion rubles to bankers.
    Is this a normal economy? A little oil rose - "cream" not for the development of the real sector, but in a box. And as the oil sank - so this egg-box is gutted, the bankers who have lost on the currency exchanges are rescued ... and so over and over again ... It's just that it's getting harder and harder to fill the pot, hence the "wise" moves of the Central Bank - and to drop the ruble - and again the funds are full ... in what way ... wassat
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 September 2015 06: 21
    10
    Greetings to all the scatters! In a situation of a severe storm caused mainly by external reasons (sanctions plus a drop in energy prices, suspiciously coinciding in time), the ship of the Russian economy is moving quite confidently. The gold and foreign exchange reserves have stabilized, the debt, both state and corporate, has decreased, as well as the interest load. The Central Bank took the tension off the exchange through REPO instruments. And the Fed was afraid to start "blowing" the money bubble. Which very painfully rebounded on their own stock exchange. And there, the oil bubble also swelled. Oh, it's not for nothing that Russia is buying gold.
    1. anip
      anip 21 September 2015 08: 51
      12
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Hello to all the fans! In a situation of a severe storm, caused mainly by external causes (sanctions plus a drop in energy prices, suspiciously coinciding in time), the ship of the Russian economy is moving quite confidently. Gold reserves stabilized, debt, both state and corporate, decreased, as did the interest rate.

      Due to what and by whom? Accidentally, not due to the collapse of the ruble, not due to the impoverishment of the population, not due to higher prices, not due to the reduction of jobs, etc. etc.? And this is called "the ship of the Russian economy is moving quite confidently"? Then let's bring down another five ruble and raise prices - the ship of the economy will move even more confidently.
      1. provincial
        provincial 21 September 2015 10: 26
        +1
        I’ll answer briefly to all aching people, I often pass by the church - the number of those who ask has not increased, one granny sits still.
    2. Goga101
      Goga101 21 September 2015 17: 00
      +1
      Mountain shooter - Colleague, but no need to lie, here is your quote: -
      "... In a situation of a strong storm, caused mainly by external reasons (sanctions plus a drop in energy prices ..." - how about your memory, eh? By the end of 2013, SANKTSMY - WAS NOT!, And the barrel cost 105 dollars. .. and our economy "Gaidar-Kudrinskie" fosterlings have already driven into a stupor.
      The ensuing "crisis" and sanctions are just an excuse - "external reasons" - what could be the reasons for the stagnation of the economy until December 2013? And the sluggish, sluggish supposedly "growth" of recent years was finally replaced by a decline in GDP - before - events in Ukraine and the fall in oil prices ... hi
  • sa-zz
    sa-zz 21 September 2015 06: 24
    +7
    I would like to hope for the best.

    But more often it happens like this:

    Two news with a slight time difference:
    December 11, 2014 12:40
    Moscow. December 11th. INTERFAX.RU - VTB expects to receive no more than 250 billion rubles from the NWF.
    December 11, 2014 12:55
    Moscow. December 11th. INTERFAX.RU - VTB will provide Indian Essar with a $ 1 billion loan for infrastructure development, bank head Andrei Kostin told reporters.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 21 September 2015 08: 49
      +1
      Tss-sss! And then the all-enforcer will be branded! wink
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 21 September 2015 09: 56
        +8
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Tss-sss! And then the all-enforcer will be branded!

        Money should work in the Russian economy and not rot in a small capsule.
        It would be better if the figures in industry were laid out, probably there were only solid profits, they did not have time to rake in money with shovels.
        Now there are no Western cheap loans and their banks lend at 15-17%, in contrast to 2-3 in the West, under these conditions, our industry cannot be competitive, but what's the point of a small egg if the money is frozen, which should be in circulation.
        To brag about the increase in the size of the egg-cup, robbing its citizens of devaluing the ruble, at least not decently.
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 21 September 2015 12: 04
          +1
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          Money should work in the Russian economy and not rot in a small capsule

          There is a way to make money work faster.



          KATASONOV V. Yu. ECONOMIC THEORY OF SLAVOPHILS AND MODERN RUSSIA. "PAPER RUBLE" S. SHARAPOV
          http://rusinst.ru/docs/books/V.Yu.Katasonov-Economicheskaya_teoriya_slavyanofilo
          v_i_sovremennaya_Rossiya.pdf
  • fif21
    fif21 21 September 2015 06: 42
    +6
    Well, rejoice at the fact that the ruble-equivalent egg-pot has almost doubled, at least it's stupid. Prices in the domestic market also almost doubled. Nabiulina + for the fact that she did not support the ruble against the dollar, and ultimately did not allow gold to the Russian currency reserves to go west. Yaresko in Ukraine, the IMF took the loans and put them in a bottle! Neither in the economy, nor in the financial sector, nor in the social sector, nor in the army, but precisely in the bottle. Bravo! How many don’t give money to the Ukrainians will master everything quickly and will still demand. Roughly speaking, the IMF gives money at 1 percent, Yaresko holds a small egg in Western banks at 4% and spends a 3% difference on the country's needs. Money out of thin air! My applause. good
    1. provincial
      provincial 21 September 2015 11: 30
      0
      The actions of the Bank of Russia on the path of strengthening the ruble did not go unnoticed. The Central Bank does a lot to strengthen the national currency, so that our financial system as a whole also feels stable, said Russian President Vladimir Putin
      August 10. FINMARKET.RU - Russian President Vladimir Putin met on Monday with Central Bank head Elvira Nabiullina. During the meeting, the president of the country and the chairman of the Bank of Russia discussed the situation in the foreign exchange market and in the banking sector. As it turned out, the head of state is pleased with the actions of the Central Bank in the currency field. In his opinion, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation does a lot for strengthening and stability of the ruble exchange rate.

      Good central bank

      "The Central Bank is doing a lot to strengthen the national currency, at least to make it feel stable, so that our financial system as a whole feels as stable. I see how persistently you are following this path," V. Paths
    2. Marwel-f
      Marwel-f 21 September 2015 15: 29
      0
      The interest rate on the IMF loan to Ukraine in the amount of $ 17,1 billion, the first tranche of which in the amount of $ 3,2 billion was received by Ukraine on May 7, is 3% per annum, according to the website of the Ministry of Finance of Ukraine.
  • D-Master
    D-Master 21 September 2015 06: 44
    +5
    In addition, I would like to remind all the propellers that in 1998 at the time of the default of the gold reserves of Russia there were 6 billion dollars. With a debt of 158.7 billion. Over the years, Russia has returned Soviet debts including the Ukrainian part, the crisis of 2008 of the year has passed and has a gold and foreign currency reserves at the level of 350 billion.
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 21 September 2015 07: 05
      11
      Quote: D-Master
      at the time of default, gold reserves of Russia were $ 6 billion. With a debt of 158.7 billion. Over the years, Russia has returned Soviet debts


      The question is not how much Russia has repaid debts, but how many factories and factories have been built, with the goal of less dependence on imported goods and products.
    2. anip
      anip 21 September 2015 08: 54
      +4
      Quote: D-Master
      With a debt of 158.7 billion. Over the years, Russia has returned Soviet debts, including the Ukrainian part,

      1. Was it necessary?
      2. And what, from this were built new plants and factories?
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 21 September 2015 08: 57
      +8
      Quote: D-Master
      that in 1998 at the time of the default of Russia's gold reserves there were $ 6 billion. With a debt of 158.7 billion. Over the years, Russia repaid Soviet debts, including the Ukrainian part, the crisis of 2008 passed and has an gold and foreign currency reserves of $ 350 billion.

      Calculate how much oil and gas was sold abroad. I bet that the money received for the period you mentioned would be enough for all this and for the redemption of Alaska. But instead, a narrow group of individuals bought out almost all of London.
      Quote: D-Master
      possesses gold reserves at the level of 350 billion dollars.

      Which are mostly in the GKO of the USA and the EU, but not in our economy. And as a result of speculation in oil prices, they again threw us to the headstock, forcing in a short period of time to spend all the accumulated currency. So there is nothing special to be proud of. hi
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 21 September 2015 10: 07
        +3
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        So there is nothing special to be proud of.

        I also see no reason for optimism, the loan rate is high, the purchasing power of the population has been reduced by almost two, how are we going to develop?
        Well, industry does not develop in such conditions.
        The only thing that is sold for export is revenue in foreign currency, after an exchange due to the exchange rate workers are paid less and receive additional income.
      2. Ziksura
        Ziksura 21 September 2015 21: 32
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        I bet that the money received for the period you mentioned would be enough for all this and for the redemption of Alaska.

        Well, well .... The wrangler. To blurt out something populist, to pick up the plus signs in the bushes. All numbers are freely available. Especially if you do not confuse such concepts as "revenue" and "profit", then it will turn out not at all impressive for you, because everything is comparable with the size of funds and gold reserves + repayment of the state debt + defense costs and national projects. By the way, how much is Alaska? The wrangler .... n!
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        But instead, a narrow group of individuals bought out almost all of London.

        And how many oilmen are there? You at least read Forbes to broaden your horizons. "Neftyannikov" one or two and "missed". Mostly metallurgists, but bankers. And this is a FACT. Well, what can we argue?
  • RU-Officer
    RU-Officer 21 September 2015 06: 53
    +3
    Half measures, half measures and half measures ... negative
    But half measures, as they say - you will not be full. stop
    And the bicycle has long been invented - a complete decoupling from "external" currencies. Yes, you see, we are not yet ready for such a bold step? belay
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 21 September 2015 07: 07
      +6
      Quote: RU-Officer
      Yes, we are not yet ready to see such a bold step?

      We are not ready, but the government, the government does not want to give up Western goods. Whose children study and live abroad?
      1. anip
        anip 21 September 2015 08: 57
        +5
        Quote: sherp2015
        Whose children study and live abroad?

        Not only, but also they are treated there all (not only their children), buy villas, open accounts, while not forgetting to call on the Russian population to patriotism.
  • cobalt
    cobalt 21 September 2015 07: 32
    +9
    I remember that when in 2008 they gave a ton of money to various private entities, including banks, from the reserve fund to support trousers, the government assured us with foam at the mouth that this money would be returned, but now 7 years have passed, but I didn’t hear the government’s report on the return of money to the state, as always, there will be enough people and noodles on the ears, but mine and our own freebies for a comfortable life at the expense of citizens and the state. This is our progressive economic line.
    1. anip
      anip 21 September 2015 08: 55
      +7
      Quote: cobalt
      but 7 years have passed already, but something I have not heard the government report on the return of money to the state,

      And do not hear, for this will never happen.
  • Tomich2
    Tomich2 21 September 2015 09: 23
    0
    all this, of course, is very good and wonderful, only the author as always missed the most important detail.
    The National Wealth Fund is a part of the federal budget, subject to separate accounting and management in order to ensure the co-financing of voluntary pension savings of citizens of the Russian Federation, as well as to ensure balance (deficit coverage) of the budget of the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation.
    I forgot about the declared goals of the NWF and the Ministry of Finance. Anton Siluanov and his subordinates only remember well that 60 percent of the national fund can be used to finance infrastructure projects. Although this bar was set by order of Dmitry Medvedev in June 2014, when sanctions against Russia were already introduced, oil was still twice as expensive as it is now. In other words, individual companies and banks needed support much more than the budget.
  • Selevc
    Selevc 21 September 2015 10: 35
    0
    there is a great risk of satisfying the very aspirations of the “friends” who so want to nullify Russian reserves in order to take Russia, as they say, with their bare hands without even looking at the existence of a nuclear shield and a powerful army in the country.

    1. Yes, Napoleon, taking Moscow, probably also thought that he had won and had long waited for the world embassy from these stubborn Asians.
    2. Hitler has not passed and six months of the war also declared his victory and the defeat of the red empire of "subhumans" ...
    3. And here again - the new Great Conqueror - Obama said that the Russian economy was torn to shreds ... There is another winner - the world hegemon ... Well, well - let them think !!! The first two have already guessed - the third is on the way !!!
    And I wish Russia to hold on no matter what, and the next enemy thinker will surely flinch ... The Anglo-Saxons are strong and stubborn - but they will never fight for their own harm !!! And you can openly declare to your friends - you’ll attack — you will advance to Chukotka — damn you, they’ll get stuck chasing Putin in the taiga !!! ))))
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 21 September 2015 12: 35
    +2
    The author, spoke strongly, only half a meter past. People write their articles not about the reserve fund, and the problems of our economy are not the ones you write about. Our egg capsules are exhausted. Do you understand? Not a bag of government, it blooms and smells, but the accumulation of a working sector of the economy!
    Our government has done everything, absolutely everything, to leave our economy without money. Before the crisis, we were suffocating from a banal shortage of turnover. It was necessary to develop, and the value-producing industry was strangled violently, explaining that speculators would profit. This was a progressive method - we take all the money from good people, then the thieves will have nothing to steal and the thieves will die of hunger ... but we won’t fight the thieves, this is not marketable. You can’t take measures against thieves, just make sure that there is nothing to steal from honest people.
    And now the crisis ... caused mainly by the fact that foreign borrowing due to a bank embargo is impossible, and our banks do not have money, the government turned off the crane. At the moment, it has come to the point that the assortment is being reduced in stores - there is nothing to buy goods for. There is demand, but there is nothing to offer! Pitiful pennies, misappropriated from the pockets of industry and retail by the thieves that the government does not fight (not market because!) And the government, which has a market pitch, tears from the eyes, snot from the nose, are ending. Completely end. At all.
    This is what Western economists write about, the author. Would you raise your little letter a little bit, and raise your nose from the HSE abstracts. These are the vile on foot, Western economists who, in their articles, are absolutely right. Just about we will start to collapse nafig ...
  • Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 21 September 2015 12: 49
    0
    In the economic segment of the foreign press, materials began to appear much less frequently,

    they now have a headache about something else.
    Migrants: uncontrolled flow or organized invasion?
  • shonsu
    shonsu 21 September 2015 16: 07
    -4
    so many experts, tired of reading ... but I think that since we are still alive and afloat, everything is according to our plan. it was immediately said that in the 15th year there will be a peak of the crisis, I hope it was him. zp paid, pensions too, everything is in stores. as before, construction is going on and social programs are being implemented. everything is fine, worried and worse times.
    1. Goga101
      Goga101 21 September 2015 17: 30
      +5
      shonsu - quote: - "construction is still going on all around ..." - it's a lie - the budget construction site has gotten up tight. Housing construction will also be stopped very soon ... - from the new year on the neck of builders, and therefore home buyers will put Banks! That is, no one can build housing without a bank guarantee ... do you know how much it (guarantee) costs? in-in, and at whose expense? Everything our banks get to - rots and dies ....
      another quote: - "... salary is paid, pensions too ..." - recently in an article, I read here - in Ukraine, up to 30% live below the poverty line ... and this line is 150 Euro per month, that is, 74 rubles37kop * 150 = 11155 rubles. 50 kopecks ... millions of pensioners (including myself) receive their pensions in Russia much lower than this figure - and what to me with the fact that "there is everything in the shops"?
      And yet - a person must LIVE, and not survive and "go through the times", it is one thing - an external enemy, then - yes, everything for the front, everything for victory, There is a war in Ukraine, they live poorly, but why do we have the same , only without a war? Or what, our ministers-economists to equate with an external enemy?
  • onix757
    onix757 21 September 2015 20: 42
    +4
    Do not pour money into the banking system a holy cause. This is because banks produce equipment and grow carrots. Without these hard workers, people are orphaned