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In the economic segment of the foreign press, materials began to appear much less frequently in which the authors reasoned over the period of time “the Russian economy would collapse after the exhaustion of reserve funds”. Even at the beginning of this year, reflections often boiled down to the fact that, it remains to wait quite a bit until Russia squander both the Reserve Fund (RZF) and the National Wealth Fund (NWF), proest and drink away the gold reserve. They say that the sanctions and the fall in oil prices will do everything in order for the "bloody regime to fall." Now, however, such expectations are either not spoken at all, or are expressed with greater caution. What are the main reasons for such restraint? Own problems? Not only.


To understand this, you need to refer to the information of the Ministry of Finance of Russia about the mentioned funds and the volumes of their contents, as well as compare the dynamics of these volumes with what was during the previous global economic crisis in 2008-2010.

On 1 September 2015, the volume of funds in the Reserve Fund was almost 4,7 trillion. rubles (about 70,7 billion dollars), and this is 6,4% of Russia's GDP. If we continue to consider the funds of the fund in dollar terms, then $ 70,7 billion is the anti-record from January 1 of 2013. The average fall in the savings of the Reserve Fund over the period, based on the same dollar figures, was 16,8%. But there are some nuances that need special attention. In fact, the volume of savings in the RZF has been falling not since January 2013, but since October last year, when this level reached 91 billion dollars. The percentages of falling are even higher, and therefore, it would seem, it is necessary to beat with a sledgehammer on a hanging rail and shout in a foul language that “there are not enough dollars in the fund”. But is it necessary ...

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The fact is that the Reserve Fund is stored in dollars, euros and pounds sterling (this is a separate topic for discussion, and such a topic is discussed quite often with different arguments for and against), but RsF funds are spent Of course, trust the reports of the Ministry of Finance, mainly on domestic projects. That is, they are spent not in dollars, but already in rubles, and it will be somewhat unreasonable not to mention the dynamics of the fund's savings already in ruble terms. Due to the well-known dynamics of the ruble exchange rate, since January 2013 has grown by more than 2 trillion. rubles. Doubtful growth, which took place mainly due to the growth of the dollar? .. Well, why is "doubtful"? The ruble savings growth virtually painlessly allows you to manage the budget deficit, despite the fact that the burden on the budget due to a significant drop in oil prices and other economic difficulties for the Russian economy is serious. In a table published September 1 on Ministry of Finance websiteIt is indicated that the Reserve Fund has recently been used to finance the budget deficit.

By the way, over the past period 2015, the Central Bank replenished the reserve in gold by about 112 tons. This is 44% (!) Higher than the same period last year. The cumulative gold reserves in Russia's international reserves increased by 6%, reaching 47,7 billion dollars.

On 1 September 2015, the volume of funds in the National Wealth Fund amounted to $ 73,76 billion or 4,9 trillion. rubles (6,7% of GDP). In dollar terms, this is an anti-record figure since 2008. But if in rubles, then this is one of the best indicators for the whole history existence of the National Welfare Fund. More funds in rubles in the fund’s accounts were in February 2015, which is also explained by the ruble exchange rate against the dollar. And here, it would seem, everything is far from positive. But is it really so far? After all, the funds of the National Wealth Fund have recently been actively used to support companies strategically important for Russia and to increase the efficiency of the largest Russian banks in the context of Western sanctions against them.
In other words, if the ruble masses did not allow to allocate sufficient funds for large banks of the country, then banks simply could not lend to individuals and legal entities, and the Central Bank would hardly have had the opportunity to return the key rate to a level that is relatively digestible for doing business equal to a tall bar, but no longer 17 with the odd percent). Funds from the National Wealth Fund went to VTB, Atomenergo, Russian Railways and other banks and companies. But, unfortunately, one cannot say that all companies without exception that received funds from the National Wealth Fund used these funds efficiently. Care Vladimir Yakunin - an indicator?

And now about comparing the rate of fall of the dollar mass of the Reserve Fund with the period of the previous crisis. From February 2008 to February 2011, these savings have decreased 5 times! From $ 125 (2008) in the Reserve Fund remains 25 (2011). The fall in the volumes of “dollar” RZF funds for 20 months (from 2013 year) was, as already noted, 16,8%. There is no need to resort to elements of higher mathematics in order to understand that the back-up dice “are firing” is not at all as active as it was 7-8 years ago.

And why, in fact, “burn”? This is not the term that should be used today. It is possible to criticize the so-called economic segment of the Russian authorities for a whole lot of reasons, but not in the case of spending money "pot". These funds do not burn exclusively on maintaining the ruble rate at the pre-crisis level, as they tried to do in 2008-2009, these funds, at least officially, spend on other needs. Of course, I would like to see more intensive investments of state savings in the real sector of the economy, in the growth of domestic production capacity. But after all, with the great temptation to take and spend all the reserve accumulations in the current situation, there is a great risk of satisfying the very aspirations of the “friends” who so much want to reset the Russian reserves in order to take Russia, which is called, barehanded, even if the country has a nuclear shield. and powerful army.

So after all, it was already - they really took us with bare hands. Or rather, they themselves presented themselves to the “friends” also in the gift wrapping. At the same time, many fellow citizens also rejoiced at the exchange of a powerful state with colossal wealth and potentials for “freedom”, preached by all sorts of “American voices”. There are such fellow citizens who are ready once again to be happy for a similar exchange, and today ...

Then — in, God forgive me, the post-perestroika years, the funds were no longer spent either on investments in infrastructure projects, or on maintaining the exchange rate, or on stabilizing deafening inflationary dynamics. It was simply announced to everyone that the country didn’t have the means, as the country was “robbed by the damned commies” ... And the majority believed it ...

I would like to think that the lessons of 90-x (including 1998-th) along with the lessons of 2008-2010 are still learned, and the reserve funds will not be either “Kudrinskaya” “sacred cow” or an object of initiatives in the style of “to spend everything to at least a week live like people, ”and will turn into a full-fledged element of Russian security and sovereignty with a planned investment in both the banking and the real sectors of the economy. In general, I would like to hope that there will be no fanaticism in both directions, and then it will be a truly invaluable experience.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 21 September 2015 06: 03 New
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    how long "the Russian economy will collapse after the exhaustion of reserve funds
    that year, a baboon tore to the shreds, tore our economy .. waiting for us to give up! wassat
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 21 September 2015 07: 25 New
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      Quote: Andrew Y.
      abuin that year, "to shreds" tore our economy .. waiting for the start when we give up!

      During the reign of Barack Obama, US government debt increased by 70 percent. Republicans are urging the government to reduce spending on government needs.

      The US national debt has stepped over the $ 18 trillion mark, provoking a new wave of criticism of the Barack Obama administration because of its chosen budget spending path, Fox News reports.

      According to the American channel, when Barack Obama led the United States in 2009, the national debt amounted to 10,6 trillion dollars. Thus, under Obama, it increased by 70%.


      But Russia's debt today is about 55 billion dollars with GDP of almost 4 trillion of the same dollars.
      1. dvg79
        dvg79 21 September 2015 10: 55 New
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        What debt, do not specify? And I read that the total exceeds 600 billion greens.
        1. gosha1970
          gosha1970 21 September 2015 11: 20 New
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          He is just a naive Chukchi youth. I did not calculate corporate debts and debts of the USSR. Total, something there is about 570 billion.
          1. Aleksandr72
            Aleksandr72 21 September 2015 19: 13 New
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            I did not calculate corporate debts and debts of the USSR.

            Or maybe we’ll count the debts of the tsarist government that the ruling Romanov family did during the years of the First World War, we also recognize hell and begin to return them. The French government will be delighted - it will be possible to block all losses on expenses for the Mistrals many times, and even with a large surplus - it will remain on the refugees. And how will the French Rothschilds be pleased.
            Well, his na.ph.y.ph., for ne.ph.y.ph. accustom "lenders" to a freebie.
            Russia, of course, is not Ukraine to forgive its debts to everyone, but not so rich as to hang on the state the debts of private corporations, etc.
            I have the honor.
          2. Alekseev
            Alekseev 21 September 2015 21: 16 New
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            Quote: gosha1970
            He is just a naive Chukchi youth. Didn't count corporate long

            Gos. debt - the debt of the government and the debt of corporations "two big differences."
            Well, a private corporation will default. Yes also force majeure will whip up - sanctions. Yes, and will bring to default the best assets ... and another company will be formed. The right receiver she or not ... what Understand the head. It is possible by court order and get some unprofitable assets in Russia along with the need to maintain them, pay taxes, etc.
            Lenders will not be from such a decision "caps in the air toss."
            Therefore, in spite of sanctions and screeches, business circles of the same West will do everything so that words can not be driven into a corner.
            By this, no panic.
            But there is only one way out - it is necessary to heed the advice of Comrade Advisor. Glazyev.
            Tighter regulation is necessary.
            And things will get better! yes
        2. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 21 September 2015 11: 54 New
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          Quote: dvg79
          What debt, do not specify? And I read that the total exceeds 600 billion greens.

          Compare with the aggregate American? laughing
          http://usdebtclock.org
          The so-called civilized countries are poor. And if the USA still has resources, then Europe is generally bare-ass.

          Read the article "Massive borrowings hide years of negative GDP growth in the EU and the USA"http://www.awarablogs.com/en/study-on-real-gdp-growth-net-of-debt/?option=com_ea
          syblog & view = entry & id = 155
          1. Tektor
            Tektor 21 September 2015 12: 33 New
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            It’s time for the Ministry of Finance to make up budget plans based on the forecast for the change in the indicator (gold reserves minus debt). And stop paying attention to the cost of a barrel of oil. If the indicator grows next year, then it is possible to increase the budget of the next year by the corresponding amount. This will be the new budget rule.
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 21 September 2015 12: 50 New
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              Only after releasing liberalism and other compradors, of which they spawned after the dismemberment of the USSR.
          2. onix757
            onix757 21 September 2015 21: 39 New
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            Not an ungrateful thing to compare with the Yankees. They generate dollars, the whole world (including Russia) serves their debts, and they, in turn, rotate the same world in a causal place
        3. g1v2
          g1v2 21 September 2015 14: 00 New
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          Often confused different debts. Russia's external debt is the total debt abroad of the state, Central Bank, commercial banks and companies - it decreased by $ 165 billion during the crisis. That is, the withdrawal of capital that people like to scare so much is simply paying off debts. Russia's foreign debt has decreased to $ 555 billion - of which 41,5 billion is the debt of the state itself, 10 billion is the debt of the central bank, that is, the debt of the state and central bank is exactly those 51,5 billion that they are talking about. Of the remaining 500 billion, approximately 130 billion are debts of commercial banks and 270 are debts of companies. In general, these are all cheap European loans that everyone joyfully took and which must be repaid. However, these 500 billion are not related to the state-owned institution and the state is not responsible for them. However, they are declining.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 21 September 2015 17: 51 New
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            Quote: g1v2
            approximately 130 billion are debts of commercial banks

            How many of these 130 are debts of foreign banks and their subsidiaries ???

            Currently Société Générale is one of the three largest foreign banks in the Russian market. In Russia, it has several subsidiary commercial banks:

            PJSC Rosbank is one of the ten largest banks in Russia; as of February 1, 2008, net assets amounted to 526 billion rubles. Since February 2008, Société Générale has owned just over 60% of its shares. It is the main asset of the group in Russia.
            LLC Rusfinance Bank is one of the 50 largest banks in Russia, as of July 1, 2009, net assets amounted to 100 billion rubles. It takes first place in the car loan market among private banks in Russia.
            Deltacredit Bank is a specialized mortgage commercial bank.
            ALD automotive is a subsidiary of Société Générale Group, the first multi-brand company in Russia to provide services for operational (operational) leasing, long-term full-service car rental, and fleet management.


            The same applies to companies, most of which belong to offshore companies.

            Ugh on them. Spit and grind ...
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      3. -Barbarian-
        -Barbarian- 21 September 2015 20: 08 New
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        So, as political information: Public debt counter - $ 417 228 454 119. And continues to grow on 1 000 green candy wrappers every second ...
        The author described everything beautifully and tried to say that the state is now less and less sticking its hand in the popular "little egg." But here the questions arise:
        1. But are the state authorities going, in the conditions of the economic blockade and the sanction wars (provoked by them), all the same to pull out this "lascivious little rudder" and begin to really invest in capital goods and city-forming industries, and not in olympiads with championships?
        2. If the “Kubyshka”, famously, was nominally doubled in rubles, using the most arrogant way - by “lowering” the ruble, and actually starting the process of impoverishment of the population and provoking a price increase, is there any sense in SUCH “swelling” of the Reserve Bank? This is just another cheating trick, in which the rich and those close to the authorities are getting richer, and everyone else is getting poorer.
        3. The global economy has increasingly become ill with global speculation. And this despite the fact that the bulk of the money supply is "over the hill"! And here, as in a game of poker - whoever has more cash will simply crush opponents in cash. And here our Medvedevs and Putiners have no prospects at all, since they are “playing” them, not they.
        Regular games with oil prices, a constant increase in its production and resale for practically nothing (compared to the recent past) actually reduce the amount of dollar profit of the state, forcing the Russian Federation to spend green papers faster on the purchase of a whole range of goods whose production was ruined with such at a frantic speed for 20 years. And all the talk about import substitution is in favor of the poor, since eliminating 90% dependence at least in the same pharmaceutical industry is beyond the power of the country ... As for such "economic competitions", personnel are also needed (which are not available now because of “reforms in education”) and money that “run away” from the country at record speeds and volumes.

        As Putin said: "Import substitution is not a fetish, it is the accelerated development of high-tech industries in your country. This is primarily about the most important technologies, dual-use technologies." And this means that in the first place they will develop the defense industry with billions of investments, because it is very capital-intensive, but there will not be enough money for the same medicines (more precisely, factories for their production) ... We will be ailing, but on a ship with torpedo. The remaining industries are the same - to one degree or another.
        1. -Barbarian-
          -Barbarian- 21 September 2015 20: 12 New
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          4. According to estimates, the "net" outflow of capital in recent years is striking in its scope! And it hits our economy hard. And if we compare the data on the legal and "gray" capital outflows, the latter in Russia clearly dominates, overlapping the official indicators times 2-3. But the government prefers not to talk about this, distracting us either with Ukraine or with sports plans.
          The cash outflow in 2014 amounted to a record maximum amount of $ 150 billion, compared to $ 61 billion in 2013. The Central Bank, focusing on the cost of one barrel of oil, makes a forecast that the import of money this year will be about $ 120 billion. And if the price on the world oil market drops to critical $ 40 per 159 liters of oil, then there is an option to increase the outflow of capital to $ 130 billion. If you look at the outflow of capital, statistics show a direct relationship between the cost of oil and export finance. According to the forecasts of the Central Bank, the outflow of capital from the country over the 2015 year will amount to an average of $ 118 billion, taking into account the plus or minus $ 10 billion. So, in 2016, it is planned to withdraw money from the country in the amount of $ 87 billion, and in 2017 - by $ 80 billion.
          This capital outflow is affected by the disproportion of taxation between foreign offshore companies and domestic investors. Another reason is banal money laundering.
          I think it’s not necessary to talk about our loan rates, which are higher than the Western ones by 15%, about the most “progressive” taxation, about our companies that are registered in Western offshore companies, as well as those who have stolen - and have been trying for 25 years hide the "hard-earned" in the West (and to which our government promises to forgive their "old sins") ... AND THIS economy is the merit of our authorities.
          But the prevalence of capital outflow over its inflow means a real reduction in resources for the country's economic growth. The annual leakage of a certain share of GDP abroad negatively affects national economic development. The flight of capital from the country leads to a shortage of liquidity in the banking system, which, in turn, affects the volume of lending to the real sector of the economy. ! And here's a joke! Money from the reserve was sent to help banks. And for some strange coincidence, they don’t manage to get this money to the real sector, because they either get lost on speculation with the ruble and currency in our open market for all winds, or are sent to household lending to the population ... Where is it already factories and farms ... they simply can not afford to take money at 17% per annum. In addition, due to the economic crisis over the past few months, about 30% of small and medium-sized enterprises have cut staff and reduced salaries for employees. In total, compared with the beginning of the 2013 year, the number of individual entrepreneurs has now decreased by 600 thousand.
          In addition, capital outflows worsen the country's ability to service external debt. Which, as you recall, grows on a "piece of greenery" per second.
          So, we should think about it, and with what means we can raise the country if these funds "fly away" at a wild speed from our hands, or rather from the hands of our authorities, which condone such a plunder of the country.
          5. Since Russia simply has nowhere to take money from, the State Duma will most likely allow further use of funds from the Reserve Fund. But the trouble is that there is nothing to cover these costs. Since Western investment and lending is closed for the country, and its finances simply do not exist, Russia may be bankrupt.
          As a result, what we see today is not just one game of the world "beau monde", it is a complex of circumstances and games, both speculative and manipulative, that our government wants to play ... And from whose "actions" simple people live only worse.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 22 September 2015 07: 18 New
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            Quote: -Barbar-
            Cash withdrawal in 2014

            Please provide the structure of the "outflow".

            And in fact, in the United States in 2014, it was quite up to itself: "In June of this year (2014. VseDoFeNi), a net outflow of foreign capital in the amount of $ 153,5 billion was registered in the United States."

            Quote: -Barbar-
            Since Russia simply has nowhere to take money from

            But did someone cancel the issue? The United States doesn’t care about this at all ...

            Quote: -Barbar-
            As a result, what we see today is not just one game of the world "beau monde", it is a complex of circumstances and games, both speculative and manipulative, that our government wants to play ... And from whose "actions" simple people live only worse.

            Or maybe the West declared an economic war against Russia, calling it "sanctions"? Also on the background rapidly impoverished West, more and more borrowed, Russia looks more than good and has almost no debt.

            Funny.
            The slowdown in the EU’s largest economy, Germany, is mainly due to the problems of the peripheral countries of the European Union, which can also affect the global economy as a whole. Germany's external debt is 176% of GDP. Francehaving the second largest economy in the EU, according to experts, has an average probability of default, percentage of external debt to GDP - 235%.

            The third place in the world is occupied by the Japanese economy, the peculiarity of which is that its main creditors are its own companies and banks. Japanese national debt - 233% of GDP, while external - 50% of GDP. The government plans to make the budget surplus by 2020, the probability of default, according to experts, is low.

            Russia's public debt is 36,0 billion dollars, the share of external debt is within 10% of GDP. This is one of the lowest values ​​among states. The maximum level of Russia's public debt reached in 1998 - 146,4% of GDP.

            That’s what the authorities of “ETU” have brought the country to - they have reduced the debt by 136% already !!!
            1. -Barbarian-
              -Barbarian- 22 September 2015 15: 23 New
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              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Please provide the outflow structure.

              The data given here is the official opinion of the Central Bank, so "dive" to them on the website to make sure. Moreover, as it happens in our country, these data are just that facade that we were forced to show, so to speak, to throw a bone to the people - so as not to pester us with unnecessary questions. Here the situation is the same as with Rosstat - the figures are “commissioned by the government”. And this has long been noticed by economists and experts. How can we build an economy, even if they don’t want to openly state the fact that the economy was falling, to see negative trends, to change the wrong course in the economy, and instead we are only given a “licked and stretched” version ...
              By the way, you apparently didn’t overlook - I also said that the illegal “gray” capital outflow in Russia clearly overlaps the official 2-3 times. Unfortunately, no one here will give you specific figures, but judging by the fact that theft is a national feature of Russian bureaucracy (the governors hold billions at home, then find kilograms of jewelry ...), then, for sure, there are sky-high figures. And no matter how many people here assure me that the head (Putin and Co.) doesn’t know what hands (officials) are doing, it’s not possible to believe in this, since in real life, a person with such “walking arms” was quickly “tidied up”, as inadequate. Well, and if he knows the "head" and allows it to be plundered, this means that he is either in share, or he needs to change the responsible post ...
              1. -Barbarian-
                -Barbarian- 22 September 2015 15: 23 New
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                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                But did someone cancel the issue? The United States doesn’t care about this at all ...

                Hmmm ... Apparently, you recently began to study the issue of issue of money in the Russian Federation. Yes, I would be in the forefront of voting for emissions aimed at the needs of the state. But in our country, emissions cannot work for the economy, because it is not the task of the Central Bank to stimulate economic growth.
                "The current policy of the Central Bank has led to a loss of control over the financial and foreign exchange market, to chaos in this market and, as a result, completely paralyzed the investment process. Having closed our market medium-term and long-term cash flows that work in a stationary mode, and left speculative, whirling, open In this mode, the Americans, taking advantage of the fact that our Central Bank has removed itself from the regulation of the foreign exchange and financial market, put it in a turbulent mode.In this mode, it is impossible to increase investments in the development of the real sector. estabilizatsiya ruble causes business uncertainty about the future, the consequence of which was the decline in production. "

                Glazyev correctly said:
                "From the point of view of economic theory, monetary emission is the advancement of economic growth. If you want to have economic growth, you need to ensure an increase in money supply. This is how all monetary systems in the world work, without exception. The US Federal Reserve prints dollars for treasury bills. That is, they print money by 90% for the state, which uses them mainly for the purposes of socio-economic development, and the money issue of the dollar is structured so that first the amount of government borrowing is determined , This amount issued treasury bonds, followed by the Fed buys Treasury bonds by printing money for them.

                All examples of the “economic miracle” indicate that the main source of rapid increase in production and investment was credit issues. But credit emission is not in the air, as is happening here, not at the key rate for replenishment of liquidity, but credit emission for specific purposes, under priorities, tasks of development of production, production sphere, and perspective directions. In general, this is an elementary truth, which, unfortunately, is completely rejected by monetarists from the Central Bank. "
                1. -Barbarian-
                  -Barbarian- 22 September 2015 15: 26 New
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                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  Or maybe the West declared an economic war against Russia, calling it "sanctions"?

                  You apparently did not notice, but I did not say that Russia declared war on the West, I said that the Russian Federation provoked the West to do so. Agree, this is not the same thing. The thing is that in our world only the strongest can change the order (and that is, only making sure that no one will punish him). I would very much like to think that the Russian Federation is the strongest power, but, unfortunately, this is not so. Changing and expanding their borders by tearing off a piece from the fraternal (as Putin always tells us) people is impossible (well, it’s not fraternal, but you can’t twist it), since it shakes the current world order. This is an act that no one in the world has accepted (for a variety of reasons). As a result, we were billed. And note, the Russian Federation can not invoice anyone, but only "claims and perplexity." And this is understandable, since the Russian Federation, at the moment, has neither a strong rear (economy), nor development plans (what kind of strategy is this, which is rewritten every 2-3 of the year), nor Idea (the state itself has scattered itself), nor Faith (which would unite all citizens). In short, sheer cosmopolitanism and multiculturalism, behind which there is nothing that makes the state strong! Hence the “external show-offs” of our guarantor. And this only convinces me that the “accession” of Crimea is an absolutely ill-conceived and adventurous project, for which you and our grandchildren will still have to pay.
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                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  That’s what the authorities of “ETU” have brought the country to - they have reduced the debt by 136% already !!!

                  It's funny if this is the only thing our authorities can be proud of, then I am very disappointed. Tell me, why the debt at such a write-off rate was not lowered to zero? What, urine was not enough? Most likely there is another clue. All these years, Russia has been a donor of the global economy, and not a recipient. For decades, there is already an outflow. The cream was removed at the time of the collapse of the USSR - according to various estimates, they exported from 1 to 3 trillion. forever green. Then the trickle dried up and the West (with its manic desire to get a little bigger) had to think about how to continue pumping out resources from the country. They came up with a genius - they made our economy in the form of a pipe for pumping resources to the West. And so that the Russians do not tremble much - they stretch the pleasure in time (the slow robbery is not so striking). First they brought the oil to the maximum so that we got used to it, and then they returned us all to their place from heaven. They are in the black, and we .... (well, substitute a suitable word yourself).
                  As a result, "manual control" of the country, in which errors begin to pass from the category of statistical error into the intermittent series of failures in the management of the country.
                  But the fact that you and people like you do not notice the abyss that we are approaching, only proves that the authorities are dealing with at least one thing. Propaganda and distraction.
              2. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 22 September 2015 19: 31 New
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                Quote: -Barbar-
                The data given here

                Speaking on a topic is simpler than citing outflow data.

                Quote: -Barbar-
                Unfortunately, no one here will give you specific numbers

                Actually, no one doubted.

                Quote: -Barbar-
                that theft is a national feature of Russian bureaucracy

                Where to ours. There Americans only saw the defense annually, so much that we have enough for almost the entire rearmament program of the army. It’s important to call it lobbying, and laundering with goodwill and everything will be tip-top.

                Quote: -Barbar-
                it’s not possible to believe in this, since in real life, a person with such “walking arms” was “tidied up” quickly as an inadequate

                And gentlemen from the World Bank believe that Russia, under the strict guidance of Putin in 2012, took the 5 place in the world in terms of PPP GDP, ahead of Germany.
                And I remind you that "Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
                And I will repeat it, as long as there are those who do not understand this.
                »© VseDoFeNi
                1. -Barbarian-
                  -Barbarian- 22 September 2015 23: 09 New
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                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  Speaking on a topic is simpler than citing outflow data.

                  Yes please! Eat don’t hang on. Pictures below wink
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  -Barwar- Unfortunately, no one here will give you specific numbers.
                  Actually, no one doubted.

                  Well, as I understand it, you cannot afford to copy a full paragraph, the main thing is to take the phrase out of context. But there it was a question of "gray" schemes of capital outflows, for which no one makes a calculation. Well, I’ve roughly defined your “level”.
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  - Barbarian - that theft is a national feature of Russian officials
                  Where to ours. There Americans only saw the defense annually, so much that we have enough for almost the entire rearmament program of the army. It’s important to call it lobbying, and laundering with goodwill and everything will be tip-top.

                  And what does America have to do with it ??? Here in his native swamp it would deal with thieves, and not open his mouth to the bourgeois countries and their problems. In their capitalist morality, these countries profess one simple rule - take everything that your hands reach, and if cunning does not help, then take it by force. The more they saw, the easier it is for us.
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  And gentlemen from the World Bank believe that Russia, under the strict guidance of Putin in 2012, took the 5 place in the world in terms of PPP GDP, ahead of Germany.

                  You said something about ranting there. Well, bring the facts "to the studio", otherwise, you see, some may consider you an unsubstantiated slander. Well, the last is the lyrics. But seriously, then take a look at the ratings that "awarded" the Russian Federation ... Garbage rating, it seems ?! In what happens! You here crucify about that. that we already live better than burghers, and gentlemen from the West have already identified us in the "garbage dump" ...
                  1. -Barbarian-
                    -Barbarian- 22 September 2015 23: 15 New
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                    This is the second leaf

                    Depending on the direct interpretation of the term “capital”, it is customary to distinguish between two types of assets to be withdrawn. The first is understood as financial capital that leaves the country in the course of such operations and transactions as fictitious transactions, artificial and intentional underestimation of prices when selling an asset abroad and non-return of foreign currency. For each of the above methods, there are special mechanisms for withdrawing funds from the country, including tax manipulation, the creation of fictitious firms, artificial transactions in financial markets, incorrect accounting of funds in accounts, concealment of ultimate beneficiaries and numerous hidden violations of national laws.
                    The second way of capital flight from the country is direct physical movement of assets abroad and includes mechanisms such as smuggling of raw materials and final products, transfer of cash, valuable metals and their equivalents abroad. In carrying out the withdrawal of capital in both ways, legal support is actively applied in the interpretation of regulatory acts, the creation of complex financial schemes and corruption cooperation with persons necessary for the successful transfer of funds.
                  2. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 23 September 2015 07: 00 New
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                    Quote: -Barbar-
                    Yes please! Eat don’t hang on. Pictures below wink

                    So again. At the last. For it is impossible to explain anything to the insane liberals, although sometimes a miracle happens and they begin to understand what is really happening.

                    If you are FORCED to maintain expenses at the right level, to borrow and are not able to earn enough for these expenses, you are a pauper. These are precisely the countries of the West you adore, and certainly not Russia, which has almost paid off its debt.
                    Quote: Massive borrowing hides years of negative GDP growth in the EU and the US








                    In fact, the review is a liberal myth known to you, only with great emphasis on the economy. I highly recommend that both “quilted jackets” and “creacles”, and people far from politics, spend a couple of hours and at least leaf through this wonderful work: http://www.awaragroup.com/upload/Awara-Study-Russian-Economy- Rus.pdf




                    Understand, well, do not understand, your problem.
                    1. -Barbarian-
                      -Barbarian- 23 September 2015 15: 36 New
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                      1. Your stubborn and inadequate perception of the world makes me start worrying about you. My dear, with what fright you so zealously consider me a "liberalist"? This is a "proud" name, you can leave it to yourself, since it is you who stand for the correctness of the actions of our government. Let me remind you of the main development trend of the Russian Federation: “Putin assured that despite the crisis, the Russian economy will remain liberal and market, and the privatization process will accelerate. At the same time, the state will ensure the stability of the foreign exchange market and fight inflation.” This is also the opinion of Medvedev. And if you are for their policy - you are the "liberalist".
                      1. -Barbarian-
                        -Barbarian- 23 September 2015 15: 40 New
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                        2. I am just stunned by such enlighteners like you. Why do you all palm off on me the analysis of 13 of the year? Now 15 is already in the yard .. And, horror, everything in the world has changed so famously during these 2 years. Moreover, this analysis somehow shows one-sided differences in GDP. Only RF, EU and USA. And where are the other countries (since you like comparisons so much)? Or are they not suitable enough? If we compare, then let's get along with the best, and not with the worst, frets ?!
                        Moreover, for example, such a funny indicator as “GDP growth minus debt growth” was chosen ... I, as an economist, quite understand that the presentation of analytical material from this angle sets itself the task of “blurring” the reader’s look. In short, dusting in the eyes. And yes, by the way, I read this "study." Did not impress. In the spirit of the times. I already told you that Rosstat and the Ministry of Finance are also pulling data.
                        Such "GDP growth" does not in any way reflect the real state of affairs in the economy. This is just a numbers game.
                        But the indicator is Real - GDP per capita. This is an important economic indicator of material well-being in the country, and not a bunch of cars in the yards, as you said.
                        And yes, I want to add one more thing - we talked with you in mind of different concepts about the state. duty. I have this total debt (external, internal, regional debts, etc.), because it is a DEBT and it should be repaid in any case (especially since we pay for the state debt, in fact - taxes, fees ...). But for some reason you have ONLY the external, and that “shaggy year”. I inform you - external state. debt currently stands at 51,2 billion dollars - at 01.08.15. (data from the Ministry of Finance). So your data on 36 billion dollars is very outdated. So, sir, debt is growing, oh growing! Since those blessed times of 2013
                        I took a little time to analyze here. Inquire, please be so kind ...
                      2. -Barbarian-
                        -Barbarian- 23 September 2015 15: 43 New
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                        3.
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        If you are FORCED to maintain expenses at the right level, to borrow and are not able to earn enough for these expenses, you are a pauper. These are precisely the countries of the West you adore, and certainly not Russia, which has almost paid off its debt.

                        You do not seem to listen at all to what I am telling you ... I only speak briefly about Western countries, mainly about Russia. It's you here on ... "tears" ... come try to convince me that I like the bourgeois countries, giving examples with their participation. I don't care much for their expenses. I repeat once again - their problems should concern us insofar as we have our own problems - a cart and a small cart.
                        The problems that Russia faces now are very unpleasant against the background of the fact that the West has cut us off from "long" and "medium" money, so restoring what was destroyed in 25 years is NOT for anything. More precisely, money will be squeezed out of Russia - from you and me. And the first signs were, just accelerated privatization, deprivation of benefits, then “cut” Pension savings, then thrust their “lascivious little hands” into the Reserve Fund. And, believe me, until they have raked almost to the end, they will not stop! Money "run away" (you could see this earlier). The money collected in the Russian Federation (partially) will be spent on products with dual-use technologies (and this is the military-industrial complex, and not the formation or construction of factories producing means of production). In an attempt to save revenue from the “pipe”, the authorities “lowered” the ruble, causing a double price increase and cheapening the money, making us and you poorer than 2 years ago in 2013. (so your favorite period). And at the same time, stating from the stands that the state does not intend to continue to be the main participant in the economy, giving up promising directions to entrepreneurs. And what is a few thousand "small and big owners", I think, you are in the know, especially against the background of your examples in your favorite America (this is about lobbying and goodwill). Yes, there is a "foreign land", here the country occupying 1 place in the world in gas production and export - completely, still has not gasified the Russian Federation. Darkness! But now, only lazy or impoverished countries are not trying to build alternative energy sources ... Therefore, soon, we will need our gas only.
                        But what awaits us in the end? And it will be something like this - the people will be divided into rich and poor (maybe into categories, castes or estates), then they will fix this provision with the Law (something like Serfdom). Well, in the interval between these, we are “high” to the fullest - education “in terms of rank”, health care for “corvee”, and none of the lower classes will have a chance to “rise”. All this will be seasoned with propaganda, so that you get used to it. And of course, we will draw the image of the ENEMY, so that we, therefore, constantly and vigilantly forged screaming in swords.
                        If you are for the current "liberal" policy pursued by the government, led by the guarantor, then start preparing your children for the role of servants and messengers. Because, only such an unenviable fate will await us "around the corner."
      4. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 22 September 2015 07: 51 New
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        Quote: -Barbar-
        So, as political information:

        The usual liberalistic anti-Russian whining. Nothing new.
        1. -Barbarian-
          -Barbarian- 22 September 2015 15: 27 New
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          5.
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          The usual liberalistic anti-Russian whining. Nothing new.

          I will tell you this - before you try to put a label on a person, you would at least figure out what kind of nonsense you are carrying. This is our government that is following a liberal course. And I, seeing where they are pulling us, I am opposed to this, as you said, "liberal" movement to nowhere.
          And there is nothing anti-Russian here and cannot be. I am for a strong power, and not for those who, with their doctrine and vision, put our country in a pose from the Kama Sutra. And about the whining, then here you again gave the blunder. After all, what is nagging? “This is the concentration of one’s thoughts on the failures of oneself or others, instead of focusing on one’s goals and plans. Accordingly, a person cannot achieve anything substantial in life by his own efforts and ceases to believe in himself. And the result of this may be disappointment in life, cynicism , constant lies, illnesses and even alcoholism and drugs. " I have not demonstrated any of the above. I just share my view of the world. And the fact that you do not like it is normal. You just live on another planet (joke). As they recently said:
          “This is“ comfortable patriotism. ”This is not to hurt and without risks, but with one pleasure. It does not affect those diseases and the misfortune that is happening inside Russia.”
          The phrase hit the nail on the head! The main thing is not to “bother” and believe that the world is exactly what you thought of yourself. I’m only afraid that sobering up will be painful.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 22 September 2015 19: 47 New
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            Quote: -Barbar-
            This is our government that is following a liberal course.

            Yes, yes ... It’s very liberal way reduces the debt of Russia. For the "especially gifted" I repeat.
            The slowdown in the EU’s largest economy, Germany, is mainly due to the problems of the peripheral countries of the European Union, which can also affect the global economy as a whole. Germany's external debt is 176% of GDP. Francehaving the second largest economy in the EU, according to experts, has an average probability of default, percentage of external debt to GDP - 235%.

            The third place in the world is occupied by the Japanese economy, the peculiarity of which is that its main creditors are its own companies and banks. The national debt of Japan - 233% of GDP, while the external - 50% of GDP. The government plans to make the budget surplus by 2020, the probability of default, according to experts, is low.

            Russia's public debt is 36,0 billion dollars, the share of external debt is within 10% of GDP. This is one of the lowest values ​​among states. The maximum level of Russia's public debt reached in 1998 - 146,4% of GDP.


            PS Whining, this is self-indulgence in feces. So, do not flatter yourself.
            1. -Barbarian-
              -Barbarian- 22 September 2015 23: 17 New
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              continued ...

              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              And I remind you that “Today under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
              And I will repeat it as long as there are those who do not understand this. ”© VseDoFeNi

              Yes, you can at least ... tears ... come out, repeating this phrase, you are our exclusive (you have already begun to quote yourself, and this was treated in the recent past) ... In one sentence you were able to award people the status of "rich "and then they accused everyone of lack of mind for overpaying. In 90's, so "suckers" were bred. But there is no farm and no one to breed, do not flatter yourself at the expense of your missionary role in enlightening the "misunderstood." Having a car doesn't make people rich. Its presence only indicates that everyone around lives like this. And it so happened with us that no one wants to stand out from the crowd. Therefore, people crawl into loans (which, incidentally, is so favored by the government, trying to grow USERS out of us), and then takes loans again to pay interest on the previous one, because it wasted everything on washing the purchases. For you I will give an example of this. In America, the people who were allowed to take cheap loans and lived with 80's. And now, these “freeloaders” can’t even utter a word against Washington policy, because they can remind you of unpaid debts. Do you wish us the same “RICH” future?
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Yes, yes ... It’s very liberal way reduces the debt of Russia. For the "gifted" I repeat ...

              For the "especially gifted" and I recall: the debt is not 36,0 billion dollars, but 417,2 billion dollars. Calculate the difference? Or can you do it yourself? And he is growing.
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              PS Whining, this is self-indulgence in feces. So, do not flatter yourself.

              I don’t understand your analogy (apparently the topic of feces is close to you, since you have such knowledge), since I only state the deplorable facts of the fall of our economy, which our authorities modestly call stagnation. And I have no reason to enjoy this misfortune of Russia. Unlike you, who thinks that a capitalistic bright future has already come around ...
  2. evil partisan
    evil partisan 21 September 2015 09: 44 New
    +5
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    that year, a baboon tore to the shreds, tore our economy .. waiting for us to give up!

    Fuck him in the anus am . With a twist repeat . This year I got so many potatoes, onions and cabbage that I safely until 2020. I live yes. And there they say we finally can be everything by good. Relatives from Rezh will feed to the extreme smile ... Feed, Andrei Yurich? winked
    1. jjj
      jjj 21 September 2015 10: 19 New
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      In this whole situation, it is interesting that funds are withdrawn from US government bonds and invested in fixed assets important for the country: roads, communications, production facilities, technologies
      1. dvg79
        dvg79 21 September 2015 10: 57 New
        +2
        Something about the general state of the stagnant economy is not noticeable in these investments.
  3. PPD
    PPD 21 September 2015 10: 59 New
    +2
    Yeah, the queue is right up to Vladivostok. Already flowers and speeches have been prepared. drinks But it’s like Avon, everything is not and isn’t. Someone out of turn climbed, scoundrel, -Makarevich, what are you? laughing am
  4. Goga101
    Goga101 21 September 2015 15: 47 New
    +4
    Andrei Yurievich - Colleague, but how do you like this paragraph from the article - quote -
    "... if the ruble mass did not allow allocating sufficient amounts of funds for large banks of the country, then the banks simply could not carry out loans to individuals and legal entities ..." - eh? Who and at what% to lend? Having dropped the ruble exchange rate below the spillway, the Central Bank passed all the costs on us and you, and again from the funds that "swelled" because of this, again, as in 2008, 1 trillion rubles were irrevocably distributed to bankers.
    Is this a normal economy? A little oil rose - the "cream" is not for the development of the real sector, but in a small capsule. And as oil sank, so they flipped this little egg, save the bankers who lost on the currency exchanges ... and so on and on .... It’s just that it’s more and more difficult to fill the little egg, hence the “wise” moves of the Central Bank - and drop the rupe - and again the funds are full ... how ... wassat
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 September 2015 06: 21 New
    +10
    Hello to all the fans! In a situation of a severe storm, caused mainly by external causes (sanctions plus a drop in energy prices, suspiciously coinciding in time), the ship of the Russian economy moves quite confidently. Gold reserves stabilized, debt, both state and corporate, decreased, as did the interest rate. The Central Bank through repurchase instruments removed the tension from the exchange. And the Fed was afraid to start "blowing off" the money bubble. Which is very painfully rebounded on their own exchange. And there is also an oil bubble pouting. Oh, it’s not in vain that Russia is buying gold.
    1. anip
      anip 21 September 2015 08: 51 New
      +12
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Hello to all the fans! In a situation of a severe storm, caused mainly by external causes (sanctions plus a drop in energy prices, suspiciously coinciding in time), the ship of the Russian economy is moving quite confidently. Gold reserves stabilized, debt, both state and corporate, decreased, as did the interest rate.

      Due to what and whom? Incidentally, not due to the collapse of the ruble, not due to the impoverishment of the population, not due to higher prices, not due to job cuts, etc. etc.? And this is called "the ship of the Russian economy is moving quite confidently"? Then let us bring down the ruble once again and raise the prices — the economy ship will move even more confidently.
      1. provincial
        provincial 21 September 2015 10: 26 New
        +1
        I’ll answer briefly to all aching people, I often pass by the church - the number of those who ask has not increased, one granny sits still.
    2. Goga101
      Goga101 21 September 2015 17: 00 New
      +1
      Mountain shooter - Colleague, but no need to lie, here is your quote: -
      "... In a situation of a severe storm, caused mainly by external causes (sanctions plus a drop in energy prices ..." - how do you remember, huh? By the end of 2013, SANCTION was NOT!, And the barrel cost 105 dollars. .. and our "Gaidar-Kudrinskiye" fosterlings have already driven our economy into a stupor.
      The ensuing "crisis" and sanctions are simply an excuse - "external causes" - what could be the reasons for the stagnation of the economy until December 2013? And the sluggish, sluggish "growth" of recent years has finally been replaced by a decrease in GDP - before - events in Ukraine and falling oil prices ... hi
  • sa-zz
    sa-zz 21 September 2015 06: 24 New
    +7
    I would like to hope for the best.

    But more often it happens like this:

    Two news with a slight time difference:
    December 11, 2014 12:40
    Moscow. December 11th. INTERFAX.RU - VTB expects to receive no more than 250 billion rubles from the NWF.
    December 11, 2014 12:55
    Moscow. December 11th. INTERFAX.RU - VTB will provide Indian Essar with a $ 1 billion loan for infrastructure development, bank head Andrei Kostin told reporters.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 21 September 2015 08: 49 New
      +1
      Tss-sss! And then the all-enforcer will be branded! wink
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 21 September 2015 09: 56 New
        +8
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Tss-sss! And then the all-enforcer will be branded!

        Money should work in the Russian economy and not rot in a small capsule.
        It would be better if the figures in industry were laid out, probably there were only solid profits, they did not have time to rake in money with shovels.
        Now there are no Western cheap loans and their banks lend at 15-17%, in contrast to 2-3 in the West, under these conditions, our industry cannot be competitive, but what's the point of a small egg if the money is frozen, which should be in circulation.
        To brag about the increase in the size of the egg-cup, robbing its citizens of devaluing the ruble, at least not decently.
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 21 September 2015 12: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          Money should work in the Russian economy and not rot in a small capsule

          There is a way to make money work faster.



          KATASONOV V. Yu. ECONOMIC THEORY OF SLAVOPHILS AND MODERN RUSSIA. "PAPER RUBLE" S. SHARAPOV
          http://rusinst.ru/docs/books/V.Yu.Katasonov-Economicheskaya_teoriya_slavyanofilo
          v_i_sovremennaya_Rossiya.pdf
  • fif21
    fif21 21 September 2015 06: 42 New
    +6
    Well, rejoice at the fact that the ruble-equivalent egg-pot has almost doubled, at least it's stupid. Prices in the domestic market also almost doubled. Nabiulina + for the fact that she did not support the ruble against the dollar, and ultimately did not allow gold to the Russian currency reserves to go west. Yaresko in Ukraine, the IMF took the loans and put them in a bottle! Neither in the economy, nor in the financial sector, nor in the social sector, nor in the army, but precisely in the bottle. Bravo! How many don’t give money to the Ukrainians will master everything quickly and will still demand. Roughly speaking, the IMF gives money at 1 percent, Yaresko holds a small egg in Western banks at 4% and spends a 3% difference on the country's needs. Money out of thin air! My applause. good
    1. provincial
      provincial 21 September 2015 11: 30 New
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      The actions of the Bank of Russia on the path of strengthening the ruble did not go unnoticed. The Central Bank does a lot to strengthen the national currency, so that our financial system as a whole also feels stable, said Russian President Vladimir Putin
      August 10. FINMARKET.RU - Russian President Vladimir Putin met on Monday with Central Bank head Elvira Nabiullina. During the meeting, the president of the country and the chairman of the Bank of Russia discussed the situation in the foreign exchange market and in the banking sector. As it turned out, the head of state is pleased with the actions of the Central Bank in the currency field. In his opinion, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation does a lot for strengthening and stability of the ruble exchange rate.

      Good central bank

      "The Central Bank is doing a lot to strengthen the national currency, in any case, so that it feels stable, so that our financial system as a whole feels just as stable. I see how persistently you go along this path," V. said. The way
    2. Marwel-f
      Marwel-f 21 September 2015 15: 29 New
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      The interest rate on the IMF loan to Ukraine in the amount of $ 17,1 billion, the first tranche of which in the amount of $ 3,2 billion was received by Ukraine on May 7, is 3% per annum, according to the website of the Ministry of Finance of Ukraine.
  • D-Master
    D-Master 21 September 2015 06: 44 New
    +5
    In addition, I would like to remind all the propellers that in 1998 at the time of the default of the gold reserves of Russia there were 6 billion dollars. With a debt of 158.7 billion. Over the years, Russia has returned Soviet debts including the Ukrainian part, the crisis of 2008 of the year has passed and has a gold and foreign currency reserves at the level of 350 billion.
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 21 September 2015 07: 05 New
      +11
      Quote: D-Master
      at the time of default, gold reserves of Russia were $ 6 billion. With a debt of 158.7 billion. Over the years, Russia has returned Soviet debts


      The question is not how much Russia has repaid debts, but how many factories and factories have been built, with the goal of less dependence on imported goods and products.
    2. anip
      anip 21 September 2015 08: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: D-Master
      With a debt of 158.7 billion. Over the years, Russia has returned Soviet debts, including the Ukrainian part,

      1. Was it necessary?
      2. And what, from this were built new plants and factories?
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 21 September 2015 08: 57 New
      +8
      Quote: D-Master
      that in 1998 at the time of the default of Russia's gold reserves there were $ 6 billion. With a debt of 158.7 billion. Over the years, Russia repaid Soviet debts, including the Ukrainian part, the crisis of 2008 passed and has an gold and foreign currency reserves of $ 350 billion.

      Calculate how much oil and gas was sold abroad. I bet that the money received for the period you mentioned would be enough for all this and for the redemption of Alaska. But instead, a narrow group of individuals bought out almost all of London.
      Quote: D-Master
      possesses gold reserves at the level of 350 billion dollars.

      Which are mostly in the GKO of the USA and the EU, but not in our economy. And as a result of speculation in oil prices, they again threw us to the headstock, forcing in a short period of time to spend all the accumulated currency. So there is nothing special to be proud of. hi
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 21 September 2015 10: 07 New
        +3
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        So there is nothing special to be proud of.

        I also see no reason for optimism, the loan rate is high, the purchasing power of the population has been reduced by almost two, how are we going to develop?
        Well, industry does not develop in such conditions.
        The only thing that is sold for export is revenue in foreign currency, after an exchange due to the exchange rate workers are paid less and receive additional income.
      2. Ziksura
        Ziksura 21 September 2015 21: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        I bet that the money received for the period you mentioned would be enough for all this and for the redemption of Alaska.

        Well, well .... The debater. Blur something populist, grab the pluses in the bushes. All numbers are freely available. Especially if you do not confuse such concepts as “revenue” and “profit”, it will turn out to be completely not impressive for you, because everything is comparable with the size of funds and gold reserves + repayment of public debt + defense costs and national projects. By the way, how much is Alaska? The debater .... n!
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        But instead, a narrow group of individuals bought out almost all of London.

        And how many oil workers are there? Have you even read Forbes to broaden your horizons? "Neftyannikov" two or two and "miscalculated." All metallurgists, yes bankers. And this is a fact. Well bet?
  • RU-Officer
    RU-Officer 21 September 2015 06: 53 New
    +3
    Half measures, half measures and half measures ... negative
    But half measures, as they say - you will not be full. stop
    And the bicycle was invented long ago - a complete detachment from "external" currencies. Yes, we are not yet ready to see such a bold step? belay
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 21 September 2015 07: 07 New
      +6
      Quote: RU-Officer
      Yes, we are not yet ready to see such a bold step?

      We are not ready, but the government, the government does not want to give up Western goods. Whose children study and live abroad?
      1. anip
        anip 21 September 2015 08: 57 New
        +5
        Quote: sherp2015
        Whose children study and live abroad?

        Not only, but also they are treated there all (not only their children), buy villas, open accounts, while not forgetting to call on the Russian population to patriotism.
  • cobalt
    cobalt 21 September 2015 07: 32 New
    +9
    I remember that when in 2008 they gave a ton of money to various private entities, including banks, from the reserve fund to support trousers, the government assured us with foam at the mouth that this money would be returned, but now 7 years have passed, but I didn’t hear the government’s report on the return of money to the state, as always, there will be enough people and noodles on the ears, but mine and our own freebies for a comfortable life at the expense of citizens and the state. This is our progressive economic line.
    1. anip
      anip 21 September 2015 08: 55 New
      +7
      Quote: cobalt
      but 7 years have passed already, but something I have not heard the government report on the return of money to the state,

      And do not hear, for this will never happen.
  • Tomich2
    Tomich2 21 September 2015 09: 23 New
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    all this, of course, is very good and wonderful, only the author as always missed the most important detail.
    The National Wealth Fund is a part of the federal budget, subject to separate accounting and management in order to ensure the co-financing of voluntary pension savings of citizens of the Russian Federation, as well as to ensure balance (deficit coverage) of the budget of the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation.
    I forgot about the declared goals of the NWF and the Ministry of Finance. Anton Siluanov and his subordinates only remember well that 60 percent of the national fund can be used to finance infrastructure projects. Although this bar was set by order of Dmitry Medvedev in June 2014, when sanctions against Russia were already introduced, oil was still twice as expensive as it is now. In other words, individual companies and banks needed support much more than the budget.
  • Selevc
    Selevc 21 September 2015 10: 35 New
    0
    there is a great risk of satisfying the very aspirations of the “friends” who so want to nullify Russian reserves in order to take Russia, as they say, with their bare hands without even looking at the existence of a nuclear shield and a powerful army in the country.

    1. Yes, Napoleon, taking Moscow, probably also thought that he had won and had long waited for the world embassy from these stubborn Asians.
    2. Hitler did not pass and six months of the war, too, announced his victory and the defeat of the red empire of "subhuman" ...
    3. And here again - the new Great Conqueror - Obama said that the Russian economy was torn to shreds ... There is another winner - the world hegemon ... Well, well - let them think !!! The first two have already guessed - the third is on the way !!!
    And I wish Russia to hold on no matter what, and the next enemy thinker will surely flinch ... The Anglo-Saxons are strong and stubborn - but they will never fight for their own harm !!! And you can openly declare to your friends - you’ll attack — you will advance to Chukotka — damn you, they’ll get stuck chasing Putin in the taiga !!! ))))
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 21 September 2015 12: 35 New
    +2
    The author, spoke strongly, only half a meter past. People write their articles not about the reserve fund, and the problems of our economy are not the ones you write about. Our egg capsules are exhausted. Do you understand? Not a bag of government, it blooms and smells, but the accumulation of a working sector of the economy!
    Our government has done everything, absolutely everything, to leave our economy without money. Before the crisis, we were suffocating from a banal shortage of turnover. It was necessary to develop, and the value-producing industry was strangled violently, explaining that speculators would profit. This was a progressive method - we take all the money from good people, then the thieves will have nothing to steal and the thieves will die of hunger ... but we won’t fight the thieves, this is not marketable. You can’t take measures against thieves, just make sure that there is nothing to steal from honest people.
    And now the crisis ... caused mainly by the fact that foreign borrowing due to a bank embargo is impossible, and our banks do not have money, the government turned off the crane. At the moment, it has come to the point that the assortment is being reduced in stores - there is nothing to buy goods for. There is demand, but there is nothing to offer! Pitiful pennies, misappropriated from the pockets of industry and retail by the thieves that the government does not fight (not market because!) And the government, which has a market pitch, tears from the eyes, snot from the nose, are ending. Completely end. At all.
    This is what Western economists write about, the author. Would you raise your little letter a little bit, and raise your nose from the HSE abstracts. These are the vile on foot, Western economists who, in their articles, are absolutely right. Just about we will start to collapse nafig ...
  • Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 21 September 2015 12: 49 New
    0
    In the economic segment of the foreign press, materials began to appear much less frequently,

    they now have a headache about something else.
    Migrants: uncontrolled flow or organized invasion?
  • shonsu
    shonsu 21 September 2015 16: 07 New
    -4
    so many experts, tired of reading ... but I think that since we are still alive and afloat, everything is according to our plan. it was immediately said that in the 15th year there will be a peak of the crisis, I hope it was him. zp paid, pensions too, everything is in stores. as before, construction is going on and social programs are being implemented. everything is fine, worried and worse times.
    1. Goga101
      Goga101 21 September 2015 17: 30 New
      +5
      shonsu - quote: - "construction is still going around ..." - lies - the budget construction has stood up tight. Housing construction will also be stopped very soon ... - From the New Year, builders, and therefore home buyers, will be put on the neck of the builders! That is, no one can build housing without a bank guarantee ... do you know how much it (guarantee) costs? in, and at whose expense? All that our banks get to is rotting and dying ....
      another quote: - "... salary is paid, pensions too ..." - recently in an article, I read here - in Ukraine up to 30% live below the poverty line ... and this line is 150 Euro per month, that is 74rub37kop * 150 = 11155 rub. 50 kopecks ... millions of pensioners (including myself) receive a pension in Russia much lower than this figure - and what do I do with the fact that “there is everything in stores”?
      And yet - a person should LIVE, and not survive and “survive the times,” one thing is an external enemy, then yes, everything is for the front, everything is for victory, In Ukraine there is war, they live poorly, and why we have the same thing only without war? Or what to equate our economist ministers with an external enemy?
  • onix757
    onix757 21 September 2015 20: 42 New
    +4
    Do not pour money into the banking system a holy cause. This is because banks produce equipment and grow carrots. Without these hard workers, people are orphaned