Deputy head of "Uralvagonzavod" about the concept of development of armored vehicles on the platform "Armata"

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Deputy CEO of the corporation "Uralvagonzavod" Vyacheslav Halitov told the agency Messenger of Mordovia progress on tank T-90 "Breakthrough" and the views of the enterprise on the development of technology based on "Almaty".

Deputy head of "Uralvagonzavod" about the concept of development of armored vehicles on the platform "Armata"


When asked about the modernization of the T-90, Khalitov said that the Breakthrough idea was born to the developers due to the Defense Ministry’s interest in overhauling the modernization of the T-90 tank.

“Now we are acting on our own initiative, but we hope that the Ministry of Defense will nevertheless open up the experimental design work. This tank will be close to what we demonstrated in the military-technical cooperation pavilion, although certain differences are expected, ”he said.

On the questions about “Armata”, the deputy leader noted that “a very large range of weapons will be added to the existing tank, infantry fighting vehicles and BREM.”



“When the idea of ​​a unified platform appeared, we assumed that anti-aircraft missile systems, self-propelled artillery installations, heavy flame-throwing systems, and engineering equipment would be created on it,” he explained.

“Initiative development of command and staff machines and other equipment, which is at the forefront, is underway. According to the modeling results, the developers came to the conclusion that such machines should have the same security and mobility, ”added the Halitov.

“When in one combat order is located, tanks and, let's say, BMP-1 or BMP-2, it is clear that only tanks will remain on the next frontier, and so on. I believe that in this tactical zone there should be no cars at all that are easily affected. In the organizational structure, there should be a heavy brigade. I suggested to the Ministry of Defense to change the approach in the formation of the primary cell. It is necessary to leave from traditional motorized rifle and tank platoons. It is necessary to create autonomous, self-supporting systems capable of long-term combat operations, such as combat modules. Just in the demonstration program at RAE-2015, we showed such combat modules in action. Each module should have a 1-2 tank, 3-4 heavy BMP, as well as a heavy assault vehicle based on “Armata”, for example, with an 152-mm gun (it can perform not only artillery firing, but also direct fire. ), ”Halitov shared his opinion.



“Group defense machines are also needed,” he remarked, “which will fight with various robotic means acting both in the air and on the ground, including micro-robots. In this combat module there must be a command and reconnaissance vehicle and, to impart a certain autonomy, a support vehicle. ”

“Several such modules can be combined into a single platform, adding to it a certain number of other equipment: including engineering vehicles, RCB protection, electronic warfare. The result will be an autonomous, self-regulating, self-supporting structure that is capable of conducting combat operations. Several such platforms are combined into a combat tactical platform, and so on, ”said the deputy general director.



“All this should be in a single organizational structure, and not as now, when the tankman and the motorized infantry are found only on the battlefield, before being in different divisions and learning various tasks. This practice should be left in the past, ”Khalitov is sure.

According to him, “this concept has a future, and our army will definitely come to it”.
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  1. +3
    18 September 2015 11: 26
    Each module should have 1-2 tanks, 3-4 heavy infantry fighting vehicles, as well as a heavy strike vehicle based on the "Armata", for example, with a 152-mm gun (it can perform not only firing along artillery trajectories, but also direct fire. ) ", - Khalitov shared his opinion.
    this, presumably, is the answer to "specialists" who shout about the "insufficient" combat power of a tank with a 125 mm gun. that is, the platform will have both.
    1. +7
      18 September 2015 11: 32
      I think everyone has already seen, but I can not add, the tank of the future:
      1. +5
        18 September 2015 14: 17
        Let it be so.
    2. Arh
      +1
      18 September 2015 11: 34
      Just looked, I recommend !!! good

      1. +5
        18 September 2015 11: 48
        In, and I was minus when I put the movie. sad
        1. 0
          18 September 2015 12: 00
          Until the 152mm barrel is delivered, there will be no wow effect! laughing
          1. +2
            18 September 2015 15: 01
            Quote: marlin1203
            Until the 152 mm barrel is delivered, there will be no "wow effect"
            For a blunt piston explanation. Why remove the tried-and-tested 2A82 gun (which at the moment cannot be resisted by the armor protection of more than one country in the world) To the 152MM barrel, most likely this is the 2A64 in the modification (Who invented the barrel with the 125 mm caliber rate of fire? Why reduce the ammunition load of the tank, well, or increase loading (we take 30 rounds, the difference in diameter is 27mm, the difference in the size of the ammunition shell is 810mm) is almost a meter of the tail.
    3. +4
      18 September 2015 13: 49
      I liked the new concept of building troops very much, as early as 60-70 they had to switch to it.
  2. +5
    18 September 2015 11: 27
    The news about the possible modernization of the T-90 to a level at least close to the T-90MS is encouraging, as far as the combat organization is concerned - here let the military decide what they need at this stage, although the concept proposed by Khalitov looks very elaborate.
    But this phrase is very interesting:
    "as well as a heavy striking vehicle based on the" Armata ", for example, with a 152-mm gun (it can perform not only firing along the trajectories of artillery, but also with direct fire.)" - that's the niche of "armata" with 152 in millimeters - are we waiting for the reincarnation of assault guns?
  3. +2
    18 September 2015 11: 27
    “This concept has a future

    Lure, damn it!
    1. +1
      18 September 2015 14: 05
      He is also interested that all military equipment was on the same platform)) He is like "Deputy General Director of Uralvagonzavod Corporation Vyacheslav Khalitov"
  4. 0
    18 September 2015 11: 32
    Reasonable. We go to a new level. But the queen of the fields should follow the modules.
    1. +1
      18 September 2015 11: 35
      Quote: roskot
      But the queen of the fields should follow the modules.

      So it’s clear:
      "Each module should have 1-2 tanks, 3-4 heavy infantry fighting vehicles"- that is, the infantry will be very decent there, only it will not" go for the modules "but" ride them "))), and parachute at the right time.
      1. +2
        18 September 2015 11: 48
        Quote: Albert1988
        So it’s clear:
        "Each module should have 1-2 tanks, 3-4 heavy infantry fighting vehicles" - that is, the infantry will be very decent there, only it will not "go after the modules" but "go on them"))), and drop into the required moment.

        Moreover, as far as memory does not change, the release of BMPT was also planned on "Armata". it seems like the "Terminator" was not accepted, not only because of the uncertainty of the military on the use of this type of technology, but also the expectation of a new platform.
        1. +3
          18 September 2015 12: 51
          Quote: RBLip
          Moreover, as far as memory does not change, the release of BMPT was also planned on "Armata".

          And why, in principle, make a separate vehicle, if the T-25 carries all the same weapons as the "terminator"? Judge for yourself - there is a gun, except that there is only one gun, but the question is, is it necessary to have 2 in principle? So I think TBMP T-15 will be able to perform all the same functions as the "terminator", but also carry infantry)))))
          1. +2
            18 September 2015 13: 44
            Quote: Albert1988
            And why, in principle, make a separate vehicle, if the T-25 carries all the same weapons as the "terminator"? Judge for yourself - there is a gun, except that there is only one gun, but the question is, is it necessary to have 2 in principle? So I think TBMP T-15 will be able to perform all the same functions as the "terminator", but also carry infantry)))))

            indisputably. I thought about it myself. And if you stuff electronic warfare equipment into the landing squad, to counter drones, and on the march (in order for this to happen) to suppress signals to detonate landmines. plus a 57 mm gun is placed in the uninhabited compartment. plus for operations in the city, such a vehicle is much better adapted than a tank (the caliber is smaller, which means more ammunition, the gun pointing angles are higher). yet again. due to the high price, I don’t think there will be a lot of BMPs, rather “Kurgan's” will be spanked. so the manufacture of BMPT still makes sense.
            1. +2
              18 September 2015 16: 42
              BMPT necessary and yet underestimated machine. Due to the abandonment of the landing there is an opportunity to further strengthen the armor and increase survivability and reliability, which means it can act at the very edge of the battle.

              Oh, the cue flag was stuck to me :)
        2. +1
          18 September 2015 14: 07
          on the basis of Armata for example: "Terminator" "Solntsepek" ... EW ... DO what you want ... The main thing is that the platform is there.
    2. +2
      18 September 2015 13: 06
      Quote: roskot
      Reasonable. We go to a new level. But the queen of the fields should follow the modules.


      And imagine the armored group described in the article in a crewless version. Partially controlled by AI, partly remotely. The entire volume of the airborne squad is clogged with BC. I think everything is going to that. It's a question of time.
      And the queen of the fields will then go. Cooled liners to collect color. Hmm ... dreams, dreams.
      1. +1
        18 September 2015 14: 08
        Why then BMP? To carry shells?
      2. +1
        18 September 2015 17: 12
        Good dreams, only against the poits who don’t have modern electronic warfare equipment on the battlefield. The idea is tempting and the first attempts to implement it are already about 80))).
  5. 0
    18 September 2015 11: 46
    Yeah...! Until then, the issues of the combat employment of the ground forces and their organizational and staff structure as well as the necessary nomenclature of military equipment for them will be decided by deputy general directors of defense corporations instead of generals in the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff until then we will not be truly combat ready army.
  6. +1
    18 September 2015 11: 51
    The couple of new ideas in tactical construction is overwhelmed ... In a word, it already was. And now there is a very simple option of compiling battle groups at the level of a battalion brigade. There is both plowing and tanks and self-propelled guns and jet systems. As well as engineering support, communications, medicine. Everything is brought to the brigade headquarters. So the initiatives of designers in this direction are rather scary. Let them make the equipment that the army needs. And the army itself will figure out where and how. Otherwise kirdyk.
  7. +1
    18 September 2015 12: 40
    I’m not a military man, but he described the concept as fantastic and maybe the future lies behind it. It is impossible to categorically relate to it, otherwise we may find ourselves in a situation like 1941, when the Germans came to us with a different structure and almost succeeded.
    You just need to understand that the future is being made by our hands and minds today.
  8. +1
    18 September 2015 12: 48
    Halitov made a reasonable proposal. Let him submit his proposal for consideration to relevant military leaders.
    1. 0
      18 September 2015 13: 45
      Quote: Tektor
      Halitov made a reasonable proposal. Let him submit his proposal for consideration to relevant military leaders.

      I agree that the General Staff is probably better aware of how to conduct modern wars. But if you like his suggestions, maybe they will solve something. But shouting to the press that he knows better how to fight. Let him go to the General Staff. One populism.
      1. +2
        18 September 2015 14: 11
        Quote: keel 31
        I agree that the General Staff is probably better aware of how to conduct modern wars. But if you like his suggestions, maybe they will solve something. But shouting to the press that he knows better how to fight. Let him go to the General Staff. One populism.


        Let me disagree with you about the populism of Halitov. From time immemorial, it has so happened that the generals are preparing for the past war. Halitov offers something new. He is right or wrong, you can easily check on any regular exercises. Put together the BT group (combat module) described in the article under the command of the maximum captain and fulfill combat missions thereof in the offensive and defense against units of the standard configuration. It will immediately become clear: the concept proposed by Khalitov is viable or not.
        1. -1
          18 September 2015 15: 15
          Quote: Polite Moose
          Quote: keel 31
          I agree that the General Staff is probably better aware of how to conduct modern wars. But if you like his suggestions, maybe they will solve something. But shouting to the press that he knows better how to fight. Let him go to the General Staff. One populism.


          Let me disagree with you about the populism of Halitov. From time immemorial, it has so happened that the generals are preparing for the past war. Halitov offers something new. He is right or wrong, you can easily check on any regular exercises. Put together the BT group (combat module) described in the article under the command of the maximum captain and fulfill combat missions thereof in the offensive and defense against units of the standard configuration. It will immediately become clear: the concept proposed by Khalitov is viable or not.

          Sorry, no fools are sitting in the General Staff and they decide. YouTube.com ›watch? V = 8LaolvEzivg watch this cartoon. about a hare who loved giving advice to everyone.
  9. +1
    18 September 2015 14: 07
    The General Staff has special structures that are engaged in planning and modeling the combat use of units and subunits in modern conditions. It seems to me that you should not take their bread from them. It is unlikely that anyone on this resource led into a real battle anything more than a regiment (at best). And so trying to give advice on where to send someone is tantamount to baby talk. Mr. Khalitov’s proposal is interesting, but nothing more, especially considering that conflicts and fights are of different scales and intensities, which imposes specific requirements on the participants. The formation of tactical groups of different composition and is the comprehensive use of weapons and military equipment available in the armed forces. And the proposal to collect in one pile 2 tanks, 3 infantry fighting vehicles, 3-4 self-propelled guns? well, there are a couple of planes left and an icebreaker with a submarine - utopia. In such a composition, only go on a pic-nick.
    1. 0
      18 September 2015 16: 49
      One head it's good, but two better. The final conclusion, whose concept is better, can be delivered only by a real battle, well, or by exercises close to it.
  10. +1
    18 September 2015 15: 08
    We’ll wait and see .. So far, apart from the laudatory advertisements, firing ranges and training firing, we haven’t seen anything about the T-14 ...
  11. +1
    18 September 2015 15: 33
    Not a bad version of a heavy platoon:
    1 tank
    1 bmpt
    4 TBMP with different modules
    Total 6 pieces of equipment and 32 (8x4) paratroopers.

    And to launch one-time blahs once every 20-30 minutes (or take a picture from ordinary blahs), so that the crews and landing on monitors see the situation on the battlefield.
    1. 0
      18 September 2015 17: 14
      Then we must continue: heavy infantry, medium and light (airborne). With this approach, it will be more convenient to structure the army. In aviation, a similar approach is used, why not try it here?
    2. 0
      18 September 2015 20: 00
      Quote: Seriomilander
      Not a bad version of a heavy platoon: 1 tank1 bmpt4 Tbmp with different modules, total 6 pieces of equipment and 32 (8x4) paratroopers. And launch one-time bla once every 20-30 minutes (or take a picture from ordinary bla), so that the crews and landing on monitors see the situation on the battlefield.

      First you need to fully develop this platform and equip dozens of other modules. As long as only the platform is ready and tests are underway, but the modules so far end up with a heavy BMP