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Ukrainian government "exposes myths"

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While President of Ukraine Poroshenko and Prime Minister Yatsenyuk continue to declare that, with the help of international courts, they will beat out "hundreds of billions of dollars for occupation and aggression" from Russia, other representatives of the Ukrainian authorities state that instead of preparing for winter, "someone" is engaged in demagogy. Thus, the Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine, Valery Voshchevsky, during a speech before the deputies of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, said that a month before the heating season, Ukraine’s energy sector is “in a pre-infarction state. At the same time, Voshchevsky notes that there is no effective interaction between individual departments, and government decisions (even if such decisions are made) are frankly ignored by “on the ground” and “business representatives”.


From Voshchevsky’s statement about the controllability (or rather, lack of control) of the Ukrainian economy (energy in particular), when there are, to put it mildly, differences of opinion between the president and the prime minister:

In the locomotive, which is called the government, two machinists - one on Bankova street, the other - on Grushevsky street. And each of them leads. And the locomotive is not going anywhere, it is worth it.


It is noteworthy that literally the next day after Valery Voshchevsky’s statement, the Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine decided to publish the material, which was entitled as “6 myths of winter preparations”. The material is devoted to this: if there are those who are guilty of the fact that the energy sector of Ukraine covers ... with a copper basin, then this is not at all the Ministry of Energy and not the government as a whole. Such an Internet excuse to ordinary citizens in the style: "We are not like that - life is like that."

Ukrainian government "exposes myths"


The “myths” that the Ministry of Energy and Iron of Ukraine is trying to tell about are worthy of special attention, and therefore more about them are more detailed.

“The Myth of 1” - “The State is responsible for everything.”

Representatives of the ministry are trying to prove with enviable obstinacy that private sector representatives who “slow down” preparations for the winter should also be considered guilty.

From material with the official site Ministries of Energy and Coal Industry "Square":

In fact, the supply of electricity, gas and heat in the hands of individual enterprises, some of which are state-owned, some are private. The industry has formed monopolies that are extremely inefficient: the equipment is outdated, there are no investments, so the huge energy losses are the biggest in Europe.


In general, the emphasis on the fact that everything needs to be privatized according to a new scheme, and then the Ukrainian people will be warm, light, and all this will cost a mere penny ...

"The Myth of 2" - "We are critically short of gas"

Here, the ministry is trying to state that reducing gas consumption by more than 5,5 billion cubic meters of gas in 2015 a year (20,2%) is a highly thought-out Kiev decision that aims to “deprive Russian oligarchs of the opportunity to earn money”. That is, “the possibilities of earning Russian oligarchs were deprived” in order to let their oligarchs earn money on the “reverse”. Import Substitution in Ukrainian ...

From the material of the Ministry of Energy and coal of Ukraine:
In fact, the government is trying to get off the gas needle of the Russian Federation. For years, gas from the Russian Federation has been a way to get rich for oligarchs and politicians, and no one has ever thought about an alternative. Still. Already last year, Ukraine has diversified gas supplies, and has the opportunity to buy it from EU partners. Thanks to this, we can argue on an equal footing with Gazprom, which is again trying to supply gas at unfavorable conditions to Ukraine.


"Equal to argue" with "Gazprom"? A strong statement ... However, further it turns out that the dispute is hard, and Demchishin "explains" why:

Today, most of the required gas is pumped into storage. Negotiations are underway for the purchase of the missing gas. To argue with Russia would be easier if own consumers paid for gas. The level of payments for gas in Ukraine is still very low, and the budget is no longer able to subsidize purchases. That is why debts continue to increase, and the government needs foreign loans to buy gas.


From this statement, it is immediately clear “who is to blame” - after Russia ... Of course, the Ukrainian people, because, you know, it does not pay for gas, which Ukraine “doesn’t really need” ... And the government is literally forced to wait because of this foreign loans in order to “on equal terms” argue with Gazprom.

3 Myth "We do not have enough power"

Minenergougol and its head Demchishin assure citizens that there is enough power, but it turns out that the managers of these capacities are useless. They strive to raise tariffs, but the government stands behind consumers.

From the material:
The electricity tariff forms an independent regulator based on the cost price. The private owner constantly demands to increase the tariff, the regulator refuses, because he is not ready to shift the problems of the private owner to the consumers ’pocket. Enough power, not enough effective use.


Yatsenyuk with Poroshenko and here are beyond suspicion ... These are all the “proprietors” - the owners who prevent the government from standing by the mountain for the people who are not able to pay bills.

In general, all Ukrainian owners are in garbage cans, and they will be replaced by another batch of effective Americans, Georgians and Balts ...

4 Myth "The use of imported coal instead of his own."

Here Demchyshyn & Co. report why the government decided to stop subsidizing the coal industry, which has already caused a flurry of discontent on the part of the miners. It turns out that the government did it for the sake of "preserving jobs" ... Where is the logic? And it is not. The fact is that subsidies to the state coal industry have been stopped, and instead, “the question of finding investment in mining is being considered to prove the profitability of the mines”. And if they then ask, where is the investment, then the freaking government will say: they didn’t find it ... And that means that the mines are unprofitable ...

"Myth 5" - "Ukraine buys coal from terrorists"

Indeed, the myth, as the "terrorists" who mine coal, this is myth creation ...

How does the purchase of coal in the DPR and the LPR (which in the DPR, by the way, have not been conducted recently, since Alexander Zakharchenko forbade the shipment of coal to Kiev) is the Ukrainian Energy Ministry trying to explain? That's how:
Coal from the ATO zone is not a purchase from terrorists, it is the support of miners who have cards registered in Ukrainian banks, working in the legislative field of Ukraine, paying taxes. Enterprises have a job and a chance to save power, people have work and support Ukraine (did they say this to Demchishin themselves? - author's note).


Next - apogee:
But since terrorists and the Russian Federation can stop deliveries, the government decided to start deliveries from South Africa in order to have a backup plan.


And why in this case do not use the argument, as is the case with gas: they say, we are buying from South Africa, because we don’t want to “enrich the Russian oligarchs” ... Or do it stop again with the citizenship of oligarchs? ..

Finally, "The myth of 6" - "There used to be stability"

These are government officials who came to power in the wake of a bloody coup, of course, should try to pass off as a myth - by definition.

From the "definition":
In fact, in the past, under the guise of stability, everyone who had political influence squeezed out of the industry, which provides 30% of the country's GDP. The current situation is the result of the "stability" of previous years.


That is, the previous authorities are to blame ... Well, yes, of course without them. Everything is simple here: Russia was the culprit - Ukrainian consumers were, “terrorists” were mentioned, but they forgot about Yanukovich’s “dictatorship” ... disorder ...

Modernization, the creation of competitive markets following the example of the EU, de-oligarchization — all this is necessary so that the heating season in Ukraine will never again be prepared in “manual mode” with the involvement of top state leaders.


The result is simple: everyone is to blame for the collapse of the Ukrainian energy industry, except for those who volunteered to answer for the energy sector, calling themselves the new Ukrainian government.

In all likelihood, such “revelations of myths” will soon begin to be published by other ministries and departments of the government “Square”, in order to at least delusional arguments to try to justify their own inconsistency.
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  1. Barboskin
    Barboskin 18 September 2015 05: 46 New
    +21
    Though argue, though not. Winter will put everything in its place. Last year we were waiting for a heating sensation in the region, we did not wait. So stop chatting, wait for the winter and see everything.
    1. RBLip
      RBLip 18 September 2015 08: 58 New
      +7
      Quote: Barboskin
      So stop chatting, wait for the winter and see everything.

      not this one so next. for 404 is inevitable ...
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 18 September 2015 19: 19 New
        +4
        The Armenian radio asked:
        - What part of the news from Ukraine contains at least some truth?
        - In the "Weather Forecast".
    2. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 18 September 2015 09: 03 New
      +2
      Barboskin "so stop talking, wait for the winter and see everything."
      Why wait then?
      WINTER IS COMING))))
      And let them continue to prepare for the EARTH.)))
      1. andj61
        andj61 18 September 2015 13: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: Nagaibak
        WINTER IS COMING))))

        Last year and the beginning of this, that is, all winter Russia supplied Ukraine, in addition to gas, Kuzbass coal and electricity. This year everything will be exactly the same - there is no difference. The difference will be after ensuring the energy independence of Crimea and the complete failure of Ukraine to supply energy and water to LDNR. yes
        And about the essence of the article, you can only say the phrase from the movie "Genius": "The country of frightened idiots!"
        1. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 18 September 2015 13: 55 New
          +1
          andj61 "The difference will be after ensuring the energy independence of Crimea and the complete failure of Ukraine to supply energy and water to LDNR."
          They would be happy to shut off water to Donetsk, say yes, they can’t. Mariupol will remain without water.))) Electricity too ... there everything depends on each other. But, it’s not even that it will be coal or gas))) they will give them of course))). They have a very depreciating level of heat supply networks ... even in comparison with us. Therefore, a harsh winter can really bring them difficulties. That's what I'm talking about.))) And our debts will be knocked out of them?))))
        2. spiolist pas harp
          spiolist pas harp 19 September 2015 12: 47 New
          0
          Quote: andj61
          In addition to gas, Russia supplied Ukraine with Kuzbass coal and electricity.

          am Yes, how much can you ...
          1. Look at the map of Russia. Where is Kuzbass and where is Donbass? Will you continue to claim that Russia is selling Kuzbass coal to Ukraine?
          2.
          Quote: spiolist pa arfagrafiya December 26, 2014 23:00
          Believe me, the country 404 in the final balance has always been exporter electricity, and not only for Russia. Still, 4 nuclear power plants + Chernobyl deficiency - this is not “khukh-mukhra” for you.
          Add from the "current bell tower": from August 2014. Russia does not supply electricity to Ukraine, but to the LPR and the DPR. And then - not all 100%, an insignificant part comes from the country ... And, by the way, Russia is still a buyer of electricity from Ukraine.

          Please do not misinterpret, do not write headings for quotes, and at least do not misinform yourself.
          hi
          1. Awaz
            Awaz 19 September 2015 16: 23 New
            0
            Ak Kuzbass coal and is suitable for the main part of Ukrainian TPP or Donbass ....
    3. anip
      anip 18 September 2015 09: 04 New
      +7
      Quote: Barboskin
      Last year we were waiting for a heating sensation in the region, we did not wait.

      Who are we"?. Last year I said that Ukraine will get everything it wants.

      Quote: Barboskin
      So stop chatting, wait for the winter and see everything.

      Only this morning on Russia 24 announced that Russia and the EEC agreed on gas transit through Ukraine and on gas supplies to Ukraine at a discount. True, the discount size has not yet been specified, but it will be in the amount of $ 20-30 from the initial price of $ 252. And Miller also said that even after 2019, gas transit through Ukraine will not be refused. Anything else to wait and see?
    4. marlin1203
      marlin1203 18 September 2015 09: 55 New
      +2
      "Smile and wave!.." laughing
  2. Born in USSR
    Born in USSR 18 September 2015 06: 02 New
    +7
    Crest believe she will come, in six months Spring.
  3. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 18 September 2015 06: 10 New
    +5
    Nothing personal: the whole article, in a single phrase, all around are to blame for everything, beside us “beloved” ... we’re so cool, even if you put all our hardships on your ass, these are all of them, well, those who are on the ball for us gives nothing. As raguli fell into the Empire, nothing has changed in their worldviews ...
  4. Slavin
    Slavin 18 September 2015 06: 27 New
    0
    And I, without malevolence, are just sorry, the most unprotected, unadapted, who were unlikely to be on the Maidan, will suffer
    1. Kazakh
      Kazakh 18 September 2015 06: 57 New
      +11
      Quote: Slavyn
      And I, without malevolence, are just sorry, the most unprotected, unadapted, who were unlikely to be on the Maidan, will suffer

      But it was necessary to go to the Maidan against him and not watch the guys harness. In the war, the hut from the edge of the first burns. And you need to feel sorry for your homeland friends and not strangers (unfortunate unfit)
      1. veteran66
        veteran66 18 September 2015 08: 52 New
        +5
        Quote: Kazakh
        But it was necessary to go to the Maidan against him and not look

        Do you often go to rallies against the growth of housing and communal services and prices in stores and the complete absence of wage growth or, at least, its indexation?
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      3. Slavin
        Slavin 18 September 2015 10: 36 New
        +4
        There are many pensioners against law enforcement officers
  5. fa2998
    fa2998 18 September 2015 06: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: Barboskin
    So stop chatting, wait for the winter and see everything.

    Why are they afraid of them? A gas pipe is on hand, take it, I don’t want to find out a problem with them. And Europe is looking at their "pampering" with their fingers. Russia pays for everything! hi
  6. silver169
    silver169 18 September 2015 06: 41 New
    +4
    The stupid log breakers of which only in quotation marks can be called the government of Ukraine, with a double speed chop the branch on which they sit. Only a quick fall can sober up their heads clouded by heavy drugs, but it will be too late to correct the mistakes.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 September 2015 06: 48 New
    +4
    The usual tactics of losers and non-professionals are to blame all their mistakes on “Uncle Vasya” (this is Russia, this is also its own population) and urge Ukrainians to mobilize their forces and personal resources. A country led by the true enemies of Ukrainians.
  8. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 18 September 2015 06: 51 New
    +2
    But it seems to me that the Ukrainian government itself is a myth.
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 September 2015 06: 54 New
    +1
    Last winter, dill was lucky. It was warm. They slipped by. This year they risk getting a blackout. The Crimea keeps our people from disconnecting from the power grid of dill, and this winter we will again have to save the dying power system of dill, not allowing it to arrange blackouts in the Crimea. Yes, they do not have long.
  10. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 18 September 2015 07: 28 New
    +10
    Coal from the ATO zone is not a purchase from terrorists, it is support for miners who have cards registered with Ukrainian banks, work in the legislative field of Ukraine, and pay taxes.

    The composition came with coal, and the composition included a list of miners who mined coal and their account numbers. smile
  11. evil partisan
    evil partisan 18 September 2015 07: 34 New
    +1
    The timely supply of raw materials to energy generation facilities is, of course, the most important issue. But it is no less important to extend the resource of these facilities, timely work on the replacement and repair of equipment, the creation of repair funds and reservation of funds for repairs and modernization. How are things going with Ukraine? What is the residual resource of thermal power plants in Ukraine? Are there any articles on this topic? Who is in the know?
  12. Egoza
    Egoza 18 September 2015 07: 40 New
    +8
    What are they clinging to? Gontarkva, who is the head of the National Bank, clearly stated that Yatsenyuk has 200 bucks, and she has no idea how he will be able to pay his utility bills. crying Yatsenyuk listened and came to the conclusion - to reduce the consumption of gas, coal, electricity by the population, therefore, he wouldn’t have to pay anything harmful, then he wouldn’t have to pay .... True, harmful viewers in two days got him 200 bucks “for poverty” wassat
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 18 September 2015 07: 52 New
      +5
      Quote: Egoza
      Gontarkwa

      Sounds like the name of a mythical monster. smile
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 18 September 2015 07: 50 New
    +2
    Everything goes to its logical conclusion.
    It’s a pity Senya and Petya can’t cancel the winter in Ukraine by decree. Although the winter can be called “Russian” and again blame Putin
  14. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 18 September 2015 07: 55 New
    0
    country of myths. directly parallel reality .......... and then suddenly the Russian Winter .......... yeah! and General Frost - damned by all invaders.
  15. press officer
    press officer 18 September 2015 07: 58 New
    +2
    Quote: Shiva83483
    Nothing personal: the whole article, in a single phrase, all around are to blame for everything, beside us “beloved” ... we’re so cool, even if you put all our hardships on your ass, these are all of them, well, those who are on the ball for us gives nothing. As raguli fell into the Empire, nothing has changed in their worldviews ...


    Somewhere we already saw it ... yes?
  16. Russia
    Russia 18 September 2015 08: 01 New
    +1
    And how Ukrainians can withstand so many noodles!
    And on the other hand - the people are "fed up" and is silent.
  17. sledge
    sledge 18 September 2015 08: 15 New
    +2
    Bullshit, complete bullshit. Everything that is happening in Ukraine is complete nonsense, in other words it is impossible to name.
  18. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 18 September 2015 08: 16 New
    +2
    The myth is Ukraine! How not bitterly to state it .......
  19. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 18 September 2015 10: 19 New
    +1
    Zrada with coal, Peremoga over Gazprom, and evil successors.
    Only Putin, the FSB and the “Kremlin Agents” are lacking in a complete set wassat
    New Ukrainian classic .... Damn, again, only Lavrov’s words come to mind
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  21. vladimirw
    vladimirw 18 September 2015 12: 41 New
    0
    nothing to wait for! Russia will again sell for a discount, for this domestic prices have risen
  22. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 18 September 2015 15: 04 New
    +1
    “6 myths of preparation for winter”

    1. The myth that Ukraine, through anal reverse, can provide its gas needs.
    2. The myth that Ukraine can shove South African square coal into a round hole in Ukrainian thermal power plants and thermal power plants.
    3. The myth that the Westinghouse TVEL curves are able to provide Ukrainians with something other than permanent Chernobyl.
    4. The myth that electricity can be obtained through the burning of sawdust and any other dung at power plants.
    5. The myth that at +16 degrees in apartments heated Maidan people will live just as well as at +21.
    6. The myth that reading by candlelight speeches of Poroshenko and other Kampf lanes, brightly illuminates the internal identity of independent Svidomo.

    Something like that. laughing
  23. isker
    isker 18 September 2015 15: 50 New
    0
    Quote: Gormengast
    “6 myths of preparation for winter”
    .
    5. The myth that at +16 degrees in apartments heated Maidan people will live just as well as at +21.
    .
    Something like that. laughing


    Not in all apartments of the Russian Federation - such a temperature (+21), and D.B. of Islam in the Kremlin, and in the cities and towns of the country - no less ...
    1. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 18 September 2015 17: 56 New
      +1
      Well, the point here is to lower the temperature legislatively. “Above” explains that living at +16 is good, although this is not so; this is the myth smile

      I live in a panel "brezhnevka", 77 years of release; before I put the "northern" double-glazed window it was cold; Siberia.

      As for dibilism - I think that it has become less. I had seen enough of the various feces that took place to be in the 90s; not so now. I agree that I live in a prosperous region; we still have industrial production + 10%; like in china smile

      And GRP until the last heinous devaluation was like in the USA (a little less).
  24. Simple
    Simple 18 September 2015 19: 10 New
    0
    If in today's Ukraine they declare war on winter, will it appear or not?



    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/290/vpev782.png
    1. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 18 September 2015 19: 32 New
      0
      They think that if they don’t announce WINTER (well, they don’t default), it won’t come.

      Powerful.
  25. mamont5
    mamont5 18 September 2015 19: 52 New
    0
    "But since terrorists and the Russian Federation can stop supplies, the government decided to start deliveries from South Africa in order to have a backup plan." But this coal is not suitable for secluded places anyway, incl. will burn it in the stoves. Shine!
    1. spiolist pas harp
      spiolist pas harp 19 September 2015 13: 26 New
      0
      Quote: mamont5
      Quote: MinTopEnergo of Ukraine
      But since terrorists and the Russian Federation can stop deliveries, the government decided to start deliveries from South Africa in order to have a backup plan.
      But this coal is not suitable for secluded places anyway, incl. will burn it in the stoves. Shine!

      laughing In the situation with coal from South Africa, something else bothers me ...
      It turns out: "Rivne and Volyn miners suck ... lollipop! due to the fact that we decided to play with energy finance". Arctic fox, long-term planning? And what is it? wassat
  26. Eastern wind
    Eastern wind 18 September 2015 20: 18 New
    0
    It’s ridiculous that when I read Ukrainian, I get the feeling that some kind of dvoechnik simply doesn’t write in Russian ...
  27. LMaksim
    LMaksim 18 September 2015 20: 27 New
    +1
    You know, but I believe that the new leadership of Ukraine will take and spend the heating season perfectly. They will put more bourgeois women and carry them out. Of course, they cut down everything that burns and can and somehow survive. laughing
  28. hands81
    hands81 19 September 2015 14: 03 New
    0
    sorry for the Ukrainians, they are getting richer, but ordinary people are suffering.
  29. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 20 September 2015 17: 55 New
    0
    Kiev named the cheapest city in the world

    Well done