US will supply the Polish Air Force subtle missiles

Polish fighters F-16C / D will receive unobtrusive cruise missiles AGM-158 JASSM, manufactured by Lockheed Martin. A total of 40 rockets will be supplied, reports Lenta.ru report.

According to the agreement, training ammunition will be delivered along with the missiles (their number is not indicated). The total contract value of about $ 500 million. This cost also includes the modernization of all 48-m aircraft ("C" and "D") for new missiles and personnel training.

In the future, Poland plans to increase the number of AGM-158 missiles to 200 units. Deliveries will begin this year. It is assumed that the first aircraft reached combat readiness for 2017.

Help edition: “JASSM missiles were put into service in the US in 2009 year. They can be used with aircraft of various types, from strategic bombers to fighter jets. The mass of the rocket is 907 kilograms, the weight of the warhead is 450 kilograms. The range of targets for the base version of the rocket is 370 kilometers. The design of the rocket is made using technologies to reduce visibility in the radar and infrared range. "

Comments

[Lord of the Sith]

The papers will and will even allocate money from the budget of Poland, but they are not visible in the warehouses!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

40 missiles .. the largest batch .. Let them test a couple .. (just in case)))

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: MIKHAN

40 missiles .. the largest batch .. Let them test a couple .. (just in case)))

Threat is a threat. In a modification of 370 kilometers, missiles completely cover the Kaliningrad region and most of Belarus, and in a modification of 980 kilometers they can reach Moksva.
The F-16 is capable of carrying 2 such missiles, given that the Poles want to buy 200 missiles. Simultaneous maximum salvo 48 F-16 in service with Poland 48 * 2 = 96 missiles. To repel such a volley of missiles, you need to use up the ammunition of 4 air defense divisions.

[Jackyun]

And you did not ask what remains of Poland after such a volley?

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Jackyun

And you did not ask what remains of Poland after such a volley?

Of course, the Poles will not attack unilaterally, but they may well be one of the elements of the plan for a lightning strike on Russia. When thousands of cruise missiles from different directions attack important objects of the country: hydroelectric power stations, nuclear power plants, dams, factories, airfields (if one such missile breaks a concrete runway and explodes, a large funnel forms, planes cannot land and take off from the airfield), etc. etc.

[kotvov]

if one such rocket breaks a concrete runway and explodes, a large funnel forms, the planes will not be able to land and take off from the airfield) ,,
and nuclear delivery vehicles, too, can not take off-iskander?

[SRC P-15]

According to the agreement, training ammunition will be delivered along with missiles (their number is not indicated). The total value of the contract is about $ 500 million.

Well, the USA has achieved what they wanted: the products of the American military-industrial complex are actively moving forward in Europe. Thanks to them, the inflated Russian threat, Europeans have to spend huge sums of money buying American weapons. It is a pity the Europeans did not understand that they have what they want.

[corporal]

Quote: Jackyun

And you did not ask what remains of Poland after such a volley?

But you still do not understand that the overseas owners do not care what will happen to these mongrels later, but the launch of 96 high-precision stealth missiles at our facilities will not add us any combat effectiveness ...

[lukke]

and in the modification of 980 kilometers are able to reach Moksva? !! What kind of modification is this? and how much does BZ weigh

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: lukke

What kind of modification is this? and how much does BZ weigh

Called AGM-158B JASSM-ER, the warhead is the same.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-158_JASSM

[gfs84]

Called AGM-158B JASSM-ER, the warhead is the same.

Dimensions and speed remained unchanged, I wonder why the obtained 3-fold increase in range? ..

[FID]

Quote: gfs84

Dimensions and speed remained unchanged, it is interesting due to what a 3-fold increase in range was obtained ?.

A modification of the AGM-158 JASSM-ER (AGM-158B) has been developed, which differs from the basic version of the rocket in increased fuel tanks, as well as a more economical twin-circuit turbojet engine Williams International F-107-WR-105 (based on Williams F112, instead of the previous single-circuit) . Due to these improvements, and the long medium-high section, JASSM-ER will be able to hit targets at a distance of up to 980 kilometers from the launch site

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: gfs84

Dimensions and speed remained unchanged, I wonder why the obtained 3-fold increase in range? ..

Quote from Wikipedia:
"A modification of the AGM-158 JASSM-ER (AGM-158B) has been developed, which differs from the basic version of the rocket by increased fuel tanks, as well as a more economical Williams International F-107-WR-105 bypass turbojet engine (based on Williams F112, instead of the previous single-circuit Due to these improvements, and the extended mid-altitude segment, the JASSM-ER will be able to engage targets up to 980 kilometers from the launch site. The modification received its official designation AGM-158B in mid-2002, and a contract with the US Air Force for the development and demonstration of the JASSM- ER was signed in February 2004. "

[veksha50]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

considering what the Poles want to buy 200 rockets.

Mdaaaa, and given the fact that the Poles do not see any adversary except Russia ...

They really encircle us, and yet they reproach us with aggression ... The world has gone mad ...

[Tanais]

IN, Events
US will supply the Polish Air Force subtle missiles

I remembered a "bearded" anecdote, apparently about these very "inconspicuous" missiles ...

- What do you see ?

- NOTHING (other censorship will not miss)

- so take HOW MUCH NECESSARY, and ... GO OUT (changed to please censorship)

[222222]

"Polish F-16C / D fighters will get .." if they climb, they will definitely get it !!
..T-50 PAK FA ...

[Grabberxnumx]

suddenly decommissioned .. without fuel ..

[meriem1]

Quote: MIKHAN

40 missiles .. the largest batch .. Let them test a couple .. (just in case)))

Subtle ??? So they are still visible ??? Just a laugh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Major Yurik]

Yesterday, the Pshetsky soldier, in a barely visible NATO helmet, dug into an inconspicuous barrier on NATO’s poorly visible base, on Poland’s almost invisible territory !!! Cheers, morality is almost invisible!

[vorobey]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

The papers will and will even allocate money from the budget of Poland, but they are not visible in the warehouses!

let them change for apples ...

[siberalt]

And what will the Poles do with these missiles, except how to drive them at a reasonable price?

[veksha50]

Quote: siberalt

And what will the Poles do with these missiles, except how to drive them at a reasonable price?

In vain you are so ... Taking into account their eternal hatred of Russia, it is immediately clear where they are dreaming of "attaching" these missiles ...

Do not forget that their pilots are now undergoing training in the use of special ammunition ...

So ... a small bug, but farting and smelly ...

[vkl-47]

Subtle if to remove and watch?

[2sila]

Yeah! Subtle, low-cost and low-flying ....

[Wiruz]

And at the same time, for some reason, no one cares about the fact that under some contracts there It is forbidden to export cruise and ballistic missiles with a flight range above 300 km! Or is the law not written for an exceptional nation? But when we wanted Syria Yakhont to deliver (or maybe already) shouts from the United States ...

[A-Sim]

Polish air force. What is it like? How are Georgian? or ukrainian?

[Kolka82]

These are the Polish Air Force. "I think so" (C)

[Thunderbolt]

Georgia and Ukraine smoke aside. Poland

under three dozen MiG-29s (upgraded and by whom ...), 48 F-16s (block +), up to 30 attack drones in the near future. This is from attack aircraft. In addition, military airfields Kolobrzeg, Klyuchevo, Kresiny, Brzhegush and others are prepared to receive the NATO air force.

The political leadership of modern Poland (besides the usual anti-Russian rhetoric for the countries of the former military forces) is really improving its armed forces and interaction with the members of the NATO bloc. These ALCMs will have to be "taken into account" by our General Staff and the Belarusian one.http://vietnamdefence.com/web/Uploaded/TT/03-14/f16-jassm.jpg

[Basarev]

A worthy and formidable weapon. But imagine yourself in the place of a porter!

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Basarev

A worthy and formidable weapon. But imagine yourself in the place of a porter!

What kind of porter are you talking about? Special loaders are used to suspend missiles to suspension points (tautology).

[Jan Ivanov]

Missiles are hardly noticeable. It will be difficult for him to see them, load at least with his hands, even with a loader.

[SSeT]

Aha. and our handles are still loaded. and all with pens. So think about it - even such elementary things have not been done so far.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

So in what version are the Poles delivered rockets? With a range of 370 or 980 kilometers?

[corporal]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

So in what version are the Poles delivered rockets?

Most likely the old version. Who will give them new ones? And it is not in the rules of the Yankees to distribute new weapons to their vassals.
Although it must be admitted that the option for 370 km is also not a gift. The question is, are our military air defense capable of detecting this type of target in advance, or have not yet learned?

[corporal]

Quote: Corporal

Most likely the old version.

However, against the positions of the Iskander and the S-300 (400) covering them, new ones can be fitted.

[bout]

the new ones are currently undergoing technical tests; they are integrated only with B 2 bombers.

[clidon]

With a range of 370 or 980 kilometers?

980km promised.

[V.ic]

They train, bite, incite ... And the psheks are happy. They wag their tails, drop their saliva and faithfully look into the smoked lord's mouth.

[veksha50]

Quote: V.ic

Trained, cobbled, baited ...

And they feed ... And the Pshek are glad, forgetting that cattle intended for slaughter are also fed ...

[sisa29]

slowly strengthening teeth to their jackals.

[nord62]

A nastier nation than the Poles is hard to find in the world. Swagger, great-power arrogance multiplied by the desire to curry favor with mattress mats will not lead to anything good. They need these rockets as a fifth wheel to the cart! And the most interesting thing is that this nation will never grow wiser, never learn to live in peace with its neighbors. They need to be sanctioned, but even worse, so that the entire economy can be spun off from "its own importance in the world"!

[Nord2015]

Good and capacious said. Taking off my hat. A plus.

[Severbob]

did not think long

[bout]

Explain to me why Russia can be armed to the teeth and Poland not?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: boruta

Explain to me why Russia can be armed to the teeth and Poland not?

Why do you need a weapon? Anyway, then we will free you. More weapons will not help.

[bout]

And who will help you if you fight among themselves? The color revolution in Russia may break out, they predict that the price of oil will be below $ 20. Only our weapons made in usa can help. Weapons made in gayropa are inferior in spirit quality.

[dvina71]

Quote: boruta

The color revolution in Russia may break out, they predict that the price of oil will be below $ 20.

What is the relationship between revolution and the price of oil? So for reference .. Export of gas from Russia is 50 billion .. Food products - 20 billion, weapons 15 billion .. there is also engineering, chemistry .. 10 years ago, all non-energy exports of Russia were 3-4 billion ..
In addition, over these 10 years, NGOs have been severely thinned out, and the local "opposition" ... has disgraced itself and has no authority whatsoever. This was confirmed by the elections in Kostroma ... where they received as much as 2.5% of the vote ..
So, do not hope for color coups ..
Well, as for these missiles .. 200 missiles In Poland, this is nothing .. Here, as part of a global strike .. Well, in general, our doctrine provides for a preventive strike ..
Congratulations .. you also bought a set of Russian warheads from the United States, with self-delivery.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: boruta

And who will help you if you fight among themselves?

And we are not going to.

Quote: boruta

The color revolution in Russia may break out, they predict

we won’t have any revolutions, perceive the forecasts of Western experts on hihihihi

Quote: boruta

. Only our weapons made in usa can help.

Oh yes, where weapons made in usa come to the rescue, there is everything at once in relief from help.

Quote: boruta

Weapons made in gayropa are inferior in spirit quality.

What do you smoke there?

[Victor-M]

Quote: boruta

Explain to me why Russia can be armed to the teeth and Poland not?

Because in Russia there are no NATO troops to ensure security, but in Poland there is, therefore Russia has to arm itself and ensure its security

[35lisment35]

interestingly "subtle" for whom?

[KRIG55]

And to hell with them missiles, and even invisible? Their apples rot in hundreds of tons, and you give them rockets.

[bout]

apples have long been in america

http://inosmi.ru/world/20150531/228321644.html

[kotvov]

apples for a long time in America ,,
and Poland, too, is thinking of dumping America? So the Strategic Missile Forces will get there too.

[APASUS]

Quote: boruta

apples have long been in america
http://inosmi.ru/world/20150531/228321644.html

1 Not apples, but apple concentrate.
2 For you, it seems there is no difference sold or presented?
From your article:

it is a pity that last year some gardeners were forced to sell apples at a very low price. This year, according to Malishevsky, there has been an increase in prices for apples. He emphasizes that the reason for the price increase was the opening of new sales routes, stimulating domestic demand, and exporting large quantities of apple concentrate to the United States.
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In general, don’t worry about Russia, you sleep more and read your press less. Your country will never fall into the interests of Russia, unless your Prime Minister has heard a lot of propaganda.

[Victor-M]

Quote: boruta

apples have long been in america

http://inosmi.ru/world/20150531/228321644.html

Then Mackain is suffering from constipation, as if you don’t look, everything fidgets and gets angry, like constipation or indigestion.

[Mainbeam]

Deliveries will begin this year.

Stubborn punks, squeezed out from under the silence.
Little by little they cling to our borders.
All neighbors were "processed", turned against us.

But only on clear lies does state policy hold.
Already many are aware of the duplicity and hypocrisy of the Anglo-Saxons.
Interestingly, the US bubble will burst before they can attack us?

[TOR2]

The first aircraft are expected to be operational by 2017.

[tiras85]

In Kaliningrad and its environs, will put an unobtrusive "ISKANDER". Chess, you know, the game is so Americans ...

[bout]

ISKANDER would have been there even if the Poles hadn’t bought rockets. AND ISKANDER-This is visible on the radar without any problems.

[aviator1913]

In fact, the news is not very good for us. Poland is not far away; the presence of such missiles in them makes their aviation more formidable in their region. Plus, these cruise missiles are not an old weapon, these are pretty good cruise missiles that can be launched from the workhorses of the American F-16 Air Force, we are not used to seeing East European countries in the arsenal.

In Russia, the number of precision weapons and cruise missiles leaves much to be desired, we always come up with something, new, new, but nothing goes into the series. Basically, single copies, so that only pilots and our pilots manage to work, and endanger their lives.

[bout]

Finland has these missiles and it is closer than Poland.

[aviator1913]

Finland has these missiles and it is closer than Poland.

Finland is Northern Europe, in eastern Europe, the country closest to us with an army that is acceptable in combat readiness is Poland.

[Roman 1977]

US will supply the Polish Air Force subtle missiles

Great news ... Only here is bad luck, there is nothing to use them with. Poland has only a few dozen MiG-29 modern aircraft: actually Polish and those that the Germans handed over to them. They have worked out a resource to a large extent, so everything is clear here. Of course, one could buy Russian new MiG-29, but ambition doesn’t allow panamas ... Part of the US used F-16 second-hand machines, again, will have to completely change the service system and much more, but theoretically in Western conditions the F- The 16 machine is very reliable and cheap to maintain, but for this you need high-quality fuel, a steady runway - it is dangerous to land on the domestic F-16 airfield. Dai pilots and ground personnel trained cat cried. The F-16 aircraft purchase contract provides for the training in the USA of only 49 pilots and 183 people in technical personnel, and for their normal maintenance 2 500 people are required. And pilot training requires 1.8 million American forever green, and the zloty is dumb ... In short, they licked the Americans.

Not to buy Eurofighter and EADS in addition ... They will be abruptly F-16, but they are European, not American. I go nuts from the Poles, where is their European solidarity? Where were they with this solidarity about which they talk so much when aggression against Iraq took place, where they were when solidarity in military politics was discussed (here they are, where the notorious F-16 got out!) ??? That is, they do not consider themselves obligated by the EU to anything, but does it mean something to Poland obligated ???
So the Poles have to patch up the old MiG-29 and Su-22. Especially Su-22 delivered even during the USSR, which was decided in service before the 2024-2026 years.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Novel 1977

Not to buy Eurofighter and EADS in addition ..

Eurofighter is 2-3 times more expensive than the F-16. As I understand it, the Poles wanted to buy a large batch of relatively modern and cheap fighters. So the Poles bought 48 F-16s, and Eurofighters for the same money would buy 15-24 fighter jets.

[bout]

You know a little. German flashes were mainly for spare parts. besides aircraft from the USSR 1988-89 Poland bought almost new Mig 29 aircraft from the Czech Republic. In addition, Poland is modernizing the Mig 29. Not only Polish, but even Bulgarian. F 16 used - This is not the same as the Mig 29 used. It is a fully combat vehicle with modern radar. The F 16 bases in Poland are the most modern NATO bases in Europe. Poland currently has sixty F16 pilots. Poland bought M 346 Master aircraft for the F 16 pilot training process (some of the current Polish F 16 pilots are instructors who train pilots to fly the F 16). Poland will pay about $ 346 million for Master M 500 planes - thus `` 1.8 million American forever green''This is a penny (Poland's GDP is only three times less than Russia's GDP - we really are not beggars)
When Poland bought the 16 F (2001) Eurofighter was not even in the British or German Air Force. The F 16 rivals were Mirage 2000 and Jas 39 Gripen. But F 16 he had the best equipment and the Americans offered the cheapest loan. In addition, you will probably agree that solidarity with America in the field of military and political cooperation gives more advantages than solidarity with a geyropa, which would willingly give Putin well .... The Su-22 was decided in service until 2024–2026 because, as a result of the development of the PAK / FA aircraft, it was decided not to buy another F 16 squadron and instead increase the F 35 from 48 to 64 aircraft.

http://lenta.ru/news/2014/02/24/f35/

[Victor-M]

Quote: boruta

In addition, you will probably agree that solidarity with America in the field of military and political cooperation provides more advantages than solidarity with the geyropa,

A controversial issue, probably because of all three wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, NATO shamefully lost, despite the fact that Russia did not repair NATO squashes, as the United States did to Soviet troops in the 80s in Afghanistan. Speaking of geyreou, after all, Poland is the same, and the central geyropa, is it already there?

[veksha50]

"The mass of the rocket is 907 kilograms, the weight of the warhead is 450 kilograms. The target destruction range for the basic version of the rocket is 370 kilometers."

Hmm ... confused by the phrase: "stealth missile" ... Or again "great specialist" comments ???

[svp67]

Quote: veksha50

Hmm ... confused by the phrase: "stealth missile" ... Or again "great specialist" comments ???

It is believed that they are made using the Stealth technology and, moreover, are capable of flying to a target at high altitudes, which also makes them difficult to detect. By the way, there is a version with a range of up to 980 kilometers. But in any case, our military and important state facilities on the territory of the Kaliningrad region and in Belarus, now we need to evaluate the issue of protection against attacks by these missiles

[aviator1913]

The EPR is about 0.1 m2, therefore it is called subtle

[bmv04636]

They say that development is underway to install such a shnyaga to Sarmat, and along the flat trajectory it will fly to Pshekia.

[DenZ]

It will be expensive to carry vacuum bombs in the Sarmatians. Sarmat is still a carrier of nuclear charges.

[bmv04636]

to destroy command posts and missile defense facilities will be what the doctor ordered.

[gladysheff2010]

Quote: Kolka82

These are the Polish Air Force. "I think so" (C)

Table 1 The main types of weapons and military equipment of the Polish Air Force
Name Quantity, units
Tactical fighters F-16С Вlosk 52+ 36
Tactical fighters F-16D Block 52+ (combat training) 12
Fighter-bombers Su-22M4K 32
Fighter bombers Su-22UMZK (combat training) 3
Tactical fighters MiG-29A 27
MiG-29UB tactical fighters (combat training) 4
Tactical military transport aircraft C-130E "Hercules" 5
Tactical military transport aircraft S-295M 11
Multi-purpose aircraft M-28V "Bryza" 17
Reconnaissance (patrol) aircraft M-28V "Bryza-IR" 7
Aircraft PLO M-28V "Bryza-1RM bis" 1
Environmental reconnaissance aircraft M-28V "Bryza-1E" 2
Military transport aircraft M-28V "Bryza-1TD" 2
Training aircraft PZL TS-11 "Iskra" 44
Training aircraft PZL130TS-1 "Orlik" 28
Tu-154M passenger aircraft (for transportation of senior officers) 1
Passenger aircraft E-175 (for VIP transportation) 2
Passenger aircraft Yak-40 (for transportation of senior officers) 4
Multi-purpose aircraft An-2 10
Multi-purpose helicopters Mi-2 35
Multi-purpose helicopters PZLW-3 "Falcon" 16
Landing helicopters Mi-8 10
Landing helicopters Mi-17 2
Landing helicopters SW-4 "Pushchuk" 24
Bell-412NR passenger helicopter (for transportation of senior officers) 1
3PKC-200 "Vega" 12
ZRKS-125 "Neva" 68
Radar N-12/N-12M 10
Radar N-11 5
Radar TRS-19 2
Radar N-31 50
Radar N-41 40
AWACS radar NUR-12M (TRD1222) 3
AWACS radar RAN-31DL 3

[Nord2015]

Well, now in Poland expensive American missiles will be lying in warehouses. The costs of security, storage. Who will apply them for whom? Yes, and permission, what would shoot need to ask an overseas uncle. And the same uncle swag decent and loading his defense industry.

[HAM]

One thing annoys you: for the sake of the patron, mongrels like the Balts or the Psheks can provoke a conflict to prove their loyalty and coolness. As long as they just chat, but with such mental health you can expect anything, DO NOT GIVE A MONKEY GRANATE ...

[yuriy55]

A Pole is not a nation, it is a profession. Sell ​​everything and live according to the principle: "Everything is sold and everything is bought" and every time you run into a good 3,14 zdulina ...

[grigorii]

Quote: Jackyun

And you did not ask what remains of Poland after such a volley?

As a rule, nothing will remain of the target. Do the panovs not understand this.

[Old26]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

So in what version are the Poles delivered rockets? With a range of 370 or 980 kilometers?

Apparently with a range of 370 km, i.e. AGM-158 JASSM. 970 km has the designation AGM-158B JASSM-ER

[japs]

There is a trick for every scrap. Do not worry, comrades, the little ones love to brag, humiliate others, but they will scoop up their own, as it always has been ...

[Maximus the Great]

Quote: A-Sim

Polish air force. What is it like? How are Georgian? or ukrainian?

Here they are, by the way in our twinkles.

[Prisoner]

They are so subtle that even the Poles themselves will not notice them. Although the Polish budget will feel them.

[31rus]

It will be easier, Russia will deploy additional Iskander brigades, reconnaissance assets, air defense systems, and as soon as the F-16 takes off from the airfield, they immediately take the whole of Poland for escort, here you have 370 and 980 km, we will immediately cover it, they bought a "gift" for themselves, after will whine about the activity of the Russian aviation, navy, army

[japs]

I would very much like for the Russian Federation to deliver to Europe the Belarus c400, in the long term c500, and modern air defense systems for low-flying and small-sized targets. Two or three divisions will probably be enough for now.

[X Y Z]

It is even strange that someone is trying to discuss with boruta, describing the Polish Air Force, as something very dangerous and combat-ready. Take care of your nerves, this is just advertising and arrogance. I never belonged to the forum users with hat-hoping moods, but the state of the Polish F-16s is the subject of constant and incessant humor even among local journalists. How many of them are really combat-efficient does not know anyone. While they serve rather as an element of prestige. Perhaps after modernization the situation will change, but so far the situation does not have the muscles to play.

[Old26]

Quote: bmv04636

They say that development is underway to install such a shnyaga to Sarmat, and along the flat trajectory it will fly to Pshekia.

Lord, what a nonsense. Any OD ammunition has always been thin-walled. And are you going to put all this on the ICBMs? And on a flat trajectory in Poland? Is it money that the chickens are not pecking?

[andrejwz]

Polish F-16C / D fighters will receive stealth cruise missiles

And only after years the Poles will see that, the king (F-16) is naked.

[arrows]

We don’t need bravado, the problem of Psheka will be thrown at us, but we will be able to solve it only when we stop throwing our hats