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Putin won his war in Ukraine ("The Washington Post", USA)

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The topic of the war in Ukraine disappeared from the first pages. 18 months ago, when Russian President Vladimir Putin seized the Crimea and provoked a pro-Russian uprising in the Donbas, Ukraine was hot news. They condemned Putin, and crushing economic sanctions were imposed against Russia. Relations between East and West have seriously deteriorated, and diplomats talked about the omens of the new cold war.

Now Ukraine, like the European crisis, has lost its relevance. One of the reasons is the flow of other news, from global economic turmoil and the influx of desperate Arab and African migrants to Europe to the mad frenzy of the US presidential race. But there is another, equally important reason. Putin seems to have won his little war in Ukraine, while his Western critics pushed aside and sputter in helpless rage.

About a year ago, Putin had to make one of the most important decisions for all his presidential terms: either make a compromise deal with the Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko, or openly send his troops to the war and Tanks. To the surprise of many observers, the Ukrainian army and volunteer groups, as it seemed then, were a stone's throw from the rout of Putin's rebels. Faced with the threat of defeat, Putin redoubled his efforts and ordered his troops to cross the border to stop the Ukrainian offensive. He clearly wanted to prove to Poroshenko and his Western sponsors that Russia would win in the war between Russia and Ukraine.

For several weeks, Putin and Poroshenko entered into an agreement on a shaky cease-fire, which quite predictably was not fulfilled. Earlier this year, German Chancellor Angela Merkel quickly agreed on a new cease-fire, although she, like President Obama, knew that the truce depends largely on whether Poroshenko and his colleagues in Kiev recognize the leaders of the rebels from Donetsk and Luhansk (which would provide them with some form of legitimacy), and whether they would grant these regions autonomy within Ukraine. It was very difficult to swallow Poroshenko’s bitter pill. He faced a powerful opposition in the face of right-wing extremists, and the fragile country he leads is in great economic and political trouble. But perhaps more importantly another. Now he already knows that neither Germany nor the United States will fight for Ukraine. Yes, they will say hot words of support, provide modest financial and military assistance - but no more.

In such an environment, seeing the caution of the West and the retreat of Kiev, Putin slowly but surely “frozen” the conflict, as he did in 2008 in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia. Today, Putin, to a much greater extent than Western leaders, can influence and, if necessary, control the course of economic, political and diplomatic events in Ukraine.

For his "victory" Putin had to pay a high price. His economy stumbles, his reputation has suffered, and Russia is returning to internal turmoil and discontent, which are quite real and gradually strengthened. But so far all this has not influenced his position inside the country in a noticeable way. It seems that he is fully capable of maintaining his almost dictatorial control over political power.

Sometimes I dream of an incredible dream - that we somehow magically moved Ukraine to Western Europe, so that it flourished as a western democracy with a viable and active economy. Ukraine deserved such a future. But we cannot do this. Ukraine will always have a common border with Russia, as well as a common culture, language and religion. Most of its historical existence, Ukraine was part of Russia, becoming an independent state only in 1991, when the Soviet Union collapsed. Ukraine lives uncomfortably and anxiously in the Russian “near abroad”, in the courtyard of its “sphere of influence”. Whether we like it or not, Russia is the dominant force in Eastern Europe, and there will be no real solution to the current crisis until Russia and Ukraine work out a mutually acceptable temporary agreement between themselves.

Putin’s attitude toward Ukraine is similar to that of other Russian leaders. He did not invent anything new. For him, nirvana is a Slavic confederation of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, which he calls "historical Russian land. " He calls the Ukrainian capital Kiev “the mother of Russian cities”, and also speaks of “the aspirations of the Russians, ancient Russia” and the fact that Russia and Ukraine are connected by more than a thousand-year history.

Putin will allow the existence of an independent Ukraine if it is “friendly” in relation to Russia's national interests. Like any despot, he trusts only himself when he defines such friendship. Putin repeatedly hinted that he would like to convene a conference in the image and likeness of Yalta, at which he, together with other world leaders, could redraw the map of Europe that emerged after the 1991 year. This is hardly possible, but Putin thinks he has time. Ukraine is writhing in his iron embrace, and he believes that his opponents in the West are weak, disunited, immoral, and under the circumstances they can make a deal with him that will satisfy him.
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  1. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 14 September 2015 05: 37 New
    +63
    Another expert shocked with a stool sad
    1. svp67
      svp67 14 September 2015 05: 51 New
      +17
      Quote: Ruslan67
      Another expert shocked with a stool

      Well, where do stools come from in America? He’s just like that since childhood ...
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 14 September 2015 05: 55 New
        +16
        Quote: svp67
        He’s just like that since childhood ...

        yes They gave birth while standing so that the head would not hit the concrete, they set up a cast-iron basin sad
        1. spiriolla-45
          spiriolla-45 14 September 2015 09: 37 New
          +11
          This is their way of thinking, they simply are not able to think differently. To change this, the Anglo-Saxon world must destroy.
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 14 September 2015 10: 39 New
            +10
            Well, men - prick - who instilled a hmyr pr our problems and talked about ripening discontent? ;) :)
            1. Arjuna
              Arjuna 16 September 2015 06: 40 New
              0
              Yaaaaa. repeat Yeah I won’t be big ... soldier
        2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 14 September 2015 09: 38 New
          +5
          An article for dumb Americans. The author brings them to the idea that Ukraine needs to be merged. Why is the author bad?
          1. 97110
            97110 14 September 2015 12: 00 New
            +7
            Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
            Why is the author bad?

            Not in his area climbed. I would write about Martians - both authority and money.
            1. Arjuna
              Arjuna 16 September 2015 06: 42 New
              0
              By the way, about the Martians. Then one with red eyes tears to Volodya.
          2. Boatsman_Palych
            Boatsman_Palych 14 September 2015 15: 13 New
            +2
            If they have such experts at the kindergarten level - what are their readers ...
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 14 September 2015 06: 38 New
      +22
      "Putin won the war" ...
      Yes, he still has not fought, but they have already fallen. laughing
      1. Tanais
        Tanais 14 September 2015 07: 26 New
        +9
        Faced with the threat of defeat, Putin redoubled his efforts and ordered his troops to cross the border to stop the Ukrainian offensive. He clearly wanted to prove to Poroshenko and his Western sponsors that Russia would win in the war between Russia and Ukraine.

        Yeah what ... "Analitega", at the level of soap operas for unpretentious housewives, blondes.

        And if the "senior adviser" writes this, then how does the "junior assistant of the senior groom," who in the USA, apparently, realizes the foreign policy, is motivated by combining his actions with such advice?
        1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 14 September 2015 09: 45 New
          +6
          The author writes for those Americans who at least can read. Those who shape the politics said to write, he wrote. This is analytics for readers of the newspaper, not for those who can do something. As the saying goes: "He who knows is silent; he who speaks does not know."
        2. Boatsman_Palych
          Boatsman_Palych 14 September 2015 15: 17 New
          0
          What are their analytics, presidents, press secretaries - such is the policy. Watch the series "On the Edge" ...
      2. inkass_98
        inkass_98 14 September 2015 07: 39 New
        +4
        Faced with the threat of defeat, Putin redoubled his efforts and ordered his troops to cross the border to stop the Ukrainian offensive.

        I did not read further. Still, in vain in some states hemp was legalized, from her one step to LSD. And there such cartoons show that words are not enough to describe everything.
      3. Werterex
        Werterex 14 September 2015 08: 20 New
        +22
        Monya is calling from Israel to a friend in Odessa:
        - Senya, what is going on there?
        - Yes, Ukraine is fighting a little with Russia ...
        - So what, there are losses?
        - Yes, there is ... Ukraine has lost the Crimea, a couple of regions, several planes and helicopters, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, various weapons there, it’s decent for the people and ...
        - And what did the Russians lose?
        - Monya, you won’t believe it, the Russians haven’t come to the war yet ...
        1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 14 September 2015 09: 48 New
          +8
          I like this one more: “Poroshenko went crazy after spending a month in the area of ​​the anti-terrorist operation. Yatsenyuk was put in intensive care with a diagnosis of“ exhaustion ”, having lived a month with a minimum wage. The deputies of the Verkhovna Rada committed an act of collective suicide, carefully reading the laws and regulations, adopted by them over the past few months. And only then did the Ukrainian allow the goldfish to return to the sea. "
      4. Amurets
        Amurets 14 September 2015 08: 36 New
        +12
        SIBIRALT! This is not only for you personally. This is for everyone. As if the author did not describe everything that was happening, the main thing was to draw the correct conclusions. That Russia will not allow Ukraine to go into NATO's arms. And what Putin thinks or does not think is his speculation. independent Ukraine will be in the zone of influence of Russia, not the United States and its Western satellites. This is the main thing. And all this pro-American scale in Ukraine will leave.
    4. Su24
      Su24 14 September 2015 07: 54 New
      0
      Oh yes, "Putin won." It seems that in the west there are also forces that are promoting Putin. Or, “Putin’s own war” is very specific and completely allows ignoring the executions of cities, as well as calm observation of the occupied lands of New Russia.
      1. jjj
        jjj 14 September 2015 09: 12 New
        +2
        In countries triumphant homosexuals and analysts relevant
    5. marlin1203
      marlin1203 14 September 2015 09: 36 New
      +6
      Shell-shocked. And in some ways he’s right. The last word is ours. We did not get involved in a big war. And the topic itself has lost its relevance in the "news line". So "smile and wave"
    6. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 14 September 2015 11: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Ruslan67
      Another expert shocked with a stool sad


      This breed is nothing to be done.
    7. go21zd45few
      go21zd45few 14 September 2015 15: 05 New
      0
      Well, how can this adviser know the history of Russia if they do not know the history of their own state. Putin redoubled his efforts and ordered his troops to stop the Nazi offensive. It’s complete nonsense, if that would be really where Poroshenko and his ilk would now be. Why the United States and its vassal Poroshenko constantly shout about the presence of Russian troops in the Donbass without video evidence one verbiage. Why are you the United States sticking its dirty nose wherever they ask you, no matter how it is pinched. And Mr. Kalb would advise you to thoroughly study the history of Russia since the first millennium. Don’t forget what happened to Germany, which under the leadership of Hitler built the great Third Reich
      and what happened to him. Learn the story.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 14 September 2015 19: 36 New
        +4
        Quote: go21zd45few
        Well, how can this adviser know the history of Russia if they do not know the history of their own state.

        With all the jambs of the author, I would call the article breakthrough! The fact is that the author writes a purely American version of what is happening. But the breakthrough here lies in small details.
        We are not refused to be one people, to have one language, culture, religion. We emphasized our common history, where Kiev is the ancestor of Russian cities. The American establishment begins to change its mind once it recognizes Russia as the dominant force in Eastern Europe.
        These parts of the article talk about the beginning of changes in the American brain, at least in that part of the head where it should be. For many years Washington’s policy was based on the denial of all these facts. There was an attempt to make us a herd (partially succeeded) of those who forgot their history and trampling on religion, norms and rules of family and social life.
    8. northern
      northern 14 September 2015 20: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Ruslan67
      Another expert shocked with a stool sad

      They did it standing, half leaked
    9. Kent0001
      Kent0001 14 September 2015 21: 21 New
      0
      He is not shell-shocked with a stool - he was born that way, an exceptional pancake. We’ll break through.
    10. Awaz
      Awaz 15 September 2015 00: 02 New
      0
      there are all shell-shocked. At zhurnalyug hysteria and diarrhea ...
  2. EGOrkka
    EGOrkka 14 September 2015 05: 45 New
    +11

    For his "victory" Putin had to pay a high price. His economy stumbles, his reputation has suffered, and Russia is returning to internal turmoil and discontent, which are quite real and gradually strengthened. But so far all this has not influenced his position inside the country in a noticeable way. It seems that he is fully capable of maintaining his almost dictatorial control over political power.


    A complete nonsense: they bought and deceived a bunch of people, now they drive by the nose, no money, no technology, no Europenies, no Euro warehouses, not even a visa-free regime for thieves and prostitutes ..... They unleashed a civil war and brought gogo-tourists to control "descendants ancient ukrov ".... What do they hope for? No wall of psheks can save!
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 14 September 2015 09: 36 New
      +4
      Quote: EGOrkka
      Complete nonsense:

      Quote: Alekseev-Orsk
      not professionally written article

      Quote: igor.borov775
      e. This is the general line of the US elite.

      Everything is much simpler there. The article is published in the "opinions" section of the newspaper. And Mr. Marvin Kalb just PR his book, you need to sell it well, because the money is hot. This is an excerpt from his book. A catchy name, the corresponding advertising company, sales are provided .And here you rushed to discuss.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 September 2015 05: 45 New
    +5
    I don’t know how anyone, but Poroshenko, Putin will always win, even in chess, even in judo. Petsya just didn’t put them on those. Yes, and you need to drink less. Poroshenko did not start pouring blood in the Donbass, but he supported this anti-terrorist operation, apparently, stomach cramps on Akhmetov’s property at the last moment blocked his brain.
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 14 September 2015 09: 36 New
      +5
      Putin cannot beat Poroshenko because he does not play with him. Poroshenko just a piece on the board. The player does not play against the piece.
  4. Alekseev-Orsk
    Alekseev-Orsk 14 September 2015 05: 46 New
    +3
    Well, the article is not professionally written. Not coverage of events, but purely the point of view of the author.
    1. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 14 September 2015 07: 36 New
      +8
      Hi !! Why are you sure that this is his nonsense, this rule cannot be otherwise. Write differently in an instant they will find something terrible in the article. This is the general line of the US elite. And, in principle, the Americans achieved their goals. 1 They were able to EU control. It is not so obvious, but the results speak for themselves. The Yankees were able to take control of all the major EU banks under control. As soon as we tried to complete the deal with Mistrals, one very remarkable message flashed on the agenda. The American Court began preparations for the consideration of the lawsuit against the largest Bank of France on the sum of 10 billion euros. The difference is, of course, and substantial. The President of France has made great efforts to muffle this attack of the United States. Yes, the Yankees postponed the matter but suddenly declared damage by the Deutsche Bank. The reaction followed quickly. The bank mercilessly got rid of profitable business in Russia. The noise has subsided so far. But it’s temporarily the Yankees will find a way to calm the rebellious. And our ministers are behaving like that. Ulyukaev talks about losses every time, but constantly changes the amount of damage, constantly recounts and flies again with his forecasts as a bad predictor. And tell yourself Gazprom what kind of company it is if Minister Novak flies to negotiate the price of gas. The head of Gazprom clearly says that Ukrainians will be dragging gas in any situation, and Novak talks about some kind of guarantees. Constantly, like a cracked record, gas payment benefits will be handed to Kiev. So who sells gas. By the way, spot sales of gas have passed not so long ago, it turned out to be more effective than Novak contracts. For Gazprom, it turned out to be very interesting, but the trouble is there is no excess gas. They sold the canceled unselected gas there is no other. The truth is there are already indications for the future is the Hub. You don’t need to buy, others will take it so about now the whole world is involved in gas deals and there are no disputes and moans to take. In principle, the Balts took part in the spot and took the liquefied one, which is not interesting anymore. The truth will not be only half-truths where only the Yankees are the main ones. Now the struggle is unfolding around Syria and Iran. There is something to prepare for. And refugees are a blessing for the Yankees; let the EU deal does not prevent the United States from doing its business in this piece of the world.
  5. pexotinec
    pexotinec 14 September 2015 05: 47 New
    +5
    Otherwise, the foreign author could not write. As they say from empty to empty.
    1. andj61
      andj61 14 September 2015 08: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: pexotinec
      Otherwise, the foreign author could not write. As they say from empty to empty.

      That's it! But if we discard verbal husk, the following is obtained: the United States and Europe are not able to help the Kiev regime economically, will not fight for it, and will not contribute to the escalation of this conflict.
      Conclusion: Putin won the conflict in Ukraine, and now he is waiting for Ukraine to fall at his feet. And for this there are historical prerequisites and a joint thousand-year history of the peoples of Russia and Ukraine.
      So it's quite a normal article! bully Not without elements of provocation against Russia, of course! But when were We good for THEM? Only when they completely fell under them (90s) or fought instead of them (World War II).
      And vysery about aggression - because without this they really won’t print the article - propaganda in the real conditions of the West. laughing
  6. BAIKAL03
    BAIKAL03 14 September 2015 05: 59 New
    +1
    The author of the article probably wrote it never once in Russia, but if he was then he didn’t go further than the Moscow Ring Road, the article is delusional only for a wet TV channel
  7. Name
    Name 14 September 2015 06: 01 New
    +4
    Putin beat the United States-this is a fact.

    Judging by a survey conducted by one international research center, many US residents can imagine a situation without much difficulty in which they would support the overthrow of the federal government by the military.

    Most of the respondents simply did not decide on their reaction in the event of such a scenario, and almost 30% are sure that they would have sided with the military without any doubt. This number of revolutionaries was on the side of the Democrats. There are even more Republicans - there are 43% rebels there.


    see http://cont.ws/post/121140
  8. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 14 September 2015 06: 08 New
    +3
    Another opus
  9. Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 14 September 2015 06: 09 New
    +3
    Putin won his war in Ukraine

    Not by those, of course, the words are written, but it is already pleasing that even the Yankees began to recognize the obvious ...
    To the surprise of many observers, the Ukrainian army and volunteer groups, as it seemed then, were a stone's throw from the rout of Putin's rebels. Faced with the threat of defeat, Putin redoubled his efforts and ordered his troops to cross the border to stop the Ukrainian offensive. He clearly wanted to prove to Poroshenko and his Western sponsors that Russia would win in the war between Russia and Ukraine.

    I would indicate the names of observers, provide photo and video evidence of how Russian troops cross the border! And then, as a habalka market hysteria rolls up, with the look of a great specialist. He doesn’t understand his head, it’s clear that if it’s real
    troops and tanks
    Russia was sent to war, events would develop according to a completely different scenario! And there is no need to prove "obviously" anything - the "crested" army, except for drunkenness, robbery, looting, torture of detainees, prisoners and other lawlessness, is not capable of. Who is there to win? It would be better to think about the fact that it’s not a shit to stick one’s nose, to dictate certain “chosen and exclusive” conditions and conditions! And the Russian proverb about the cunning F ... and something with a screw, it was very nice to remember and put into service.
    and crushing economic sanctions were introduced against Russia
    as a result of which all the "sanctioners" crap one's pants ...
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 September 2015 06: 25 New
    +2
    moved Ukraine to Western Europe so that it flourishes as a Western democracy with a viable and vibrant economy

    If this happened, then you quickly realized for whom they are now tearing their throats and to whom they are giving their hard-earned money. Within a year, they would start looking for an opportunity to move IT (even I don’t want to call the country) back.
  11. B- 3ACADE
    B- 3ACADE 14 September 2015 06: 26 New
    +2
    Well . fresh. Uncle grabbed the tops and
    undertook to judge the global. by a connoisseur.
    Not surprised. The theme for the upcoming elections and any schools of power
    I am being pulled out to cut down a lightweight cheap popularity.
    Apparently soon we will learn about Voeing about the feeling of deep regret ...
    In the meantime - my opinion about them ...
  12. Viktor163
    Viktor163 14 September 2015 06: 26 New
    0
    What is he talking about now? wassat
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  14. Tatarname
    Tatarname 14 September 2015 06: 39 New
    -5
    Normal article, if you think about it. Putin won the "hot" war - "Our Crimea!". And while the economic war loses in all respects. Just look at the price tags in stores, salaries and pensions. The poor according to official statistics are more than 20 million. The dollar soared to heaven, and we, oddly enough, depend on it. Oil fell below the baseboard. Yes, even in one war, in Syria, we climb. Russia will not tear? And don’t speak with slogans - we’ll throw “caps”, but really look at things.
    1. cergey51046
      cergey51046 14 September 2015 06: 58 New
      +6
      I am a pensioner and do not support all of the above. It looks like you live in another country.
    2. Star Huntsman
      Star Huntsman 15 September 2015 16: 13 New
      0
      only in Russia so closely monitor the exchange rate. burping 90s
  15. B- 3ACADE
    B- 3ACADE 14 September 2015 06: 55 New
    +5
    Quote: Tatarname
    Normal article, if you think about it. Putin won the "hot" war - "Our Crimea!". And while the economic war loses in all respects. Just look at the price tags in stores, salaries and pensions. The poor according to official statistics are more than 20 million. The dollar soared to heaven, and we, oddly enough, depend on it. Oil fell below the baseboard. Yes, even in one war, in Syria, we climb. Russia will not tear? And don’t speak with slogans - we’ll throw “caps”, but really look at things.

    I understand but do not agree. The article is clearly speculative.
    the economy is falling everywhere, not just yours.
    They simply keep silent about yours and inflate yours for a specific purpose.
    Do not bother. Russia is stronger than ever and victory will be hers.
  16. cergey51046
    cergey51046 14 September 2015 06: 57 New
    +1
    This article appeared in the Military Review seemingly by accident. InoSMI is more suitable for her.
    1. Tanais
      Tanais 14 September 2015 08: 26 New
      +7
      Quote: cergey51046
      This article appeared in the Military Review seemingly by accident. InoSMI is more suitable for her.


      As on any discussion platform, in VO, articles that reflect various points of view, even polar ones, MUST be posted.

      In a discussion (dispute), TRUE is born, located somewhere "in the middle" ...
  17. LukaSaraev
    LukaSaraev 14 September 2015 07: 19 New
    +3
    Like any despot, he trusts only himself when he defines such a friendship ....

    So interesting, the despot has become. That is, Charles de Gaulle, Peter 1, can long list such despots. Now let's not take despots. Medvedev, Oland, what did they do for their states? Nobody will remember them. Yes, maybe I as a layman and citizen do not like something. But stand just above your stomach and look around. Hordes of black, hungry, lazy parasites and just traitors are breaking into this Europe. And here we have ... Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, and all those who have come to their senses and understood that Russia does nothing - they just raise their children in the world. Somewhat messy, I'm sorry ...
  18. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 14 September 2015 07: 46 New
    +5
    Russia has proved to the whole world that it can firmly defend its positions and snap back! Unlike other world powers dancing to the tune of the USA! THERE IS THE MAIN ESSENCE OF THE ARTICLE THINK!
    1. Beaver
      Beaver 14 September 2015 18: 14 New
      0
      The main essence of the article is approximately as follows: "we are forced to admit obvious things, but at the same time we are simply obliged to pour another bucket of slop on Russia, its citizens and its leader."
  19. aszzz888
    aszzz888 14 September 2015 08: 04 New
    0
    Faced with the threat of defeat, Putin redoubled his efforts and ordered his troops to cross the border to stop the Ukrainian offensive.


    Ahtorsha, sit and do not rock the boat at your Institute.
    You carry such crap!
    Turn it over to your students. --------------- these are all the cons if you could put them right away. fool
  20. oracul
    oracul 14 September 2015 08: 11 New
    0
    I can’t imagine how you can see something normal in a similar article. A set of beaten-up stamps, a clearly visible line by the State Department, and outright lies laced with Putin's "victory" in Ukraine. It is clear that such publications are intended for domestic consumption. Conclusion - with such "good" they treat their citizens.
  21. asar
    asar 14 September 2015 08: 24 New
    0
    Now he already knows that neither Germany nor the United States will fight for Ukraine.

    Fools there no, die for "your everything"!
    They will push against the Russian Federation, but die ...!
    No, Potroshenko, you are alone in the field, like your finger in your nostril - the other finger will not crawl through!
    So, spin as you want!
    They simply keep silent about yours and inflate yours for a specific purpose.

    Yes, I agree! Sanctions anyway - sanctions! It’s hard for us, I agree!
    But the West is "unsweetened"! Both from own sanctions, and from "otvetka" from Russia!
    Is there a way out?
    I think there is!
    Just got to do an effort, and BIG - to recognize the multipolarity of the world! AND EVERYTHING!
    Squeeze and "give birth" is decision!
    And without this in any way, it’s just that the world has become different, how is this evidence in the West not understood ?!
  22. Proud.
    Proud. 14 September 2015 08: 28 New
    +1
    "... Faced with the threat of defeat, Putin redoubled his efforts and ordered his troops to cross the border in order to stop the Ukrainian advance ..." - Yosya, the one who is Goebbels, frantically applauds while standing in a coffin.
    "... Sometimes I have an incredible dream - that we somehow magically moved Ukraine to Western Europe ..." - a fool, this is a nightmare.
    "... so that it flourishes as a Western democracy with a viable and vibrant economy ..." - this phrase is bewildering.
    "... For most of its historical existence, Ukraine was part of Russia, becoming an independent state only in 1991, when the Soviet Union collapsed ..." ... independent of everything, including common sense.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 15 September 2015 13: 40 New
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      Quote: Be proud.
      "... Sometimes I have an incredible dream - that we somehow magically moved Ukraine to Western Europe ..." - a fool, this is a nightmare.

      This is a nightmare for the EU. And for the United States - a sweet dream.
      Imagine - to put such a pig to competitors ... it’s even cooler than refugees from Africa and BV. smile
  23. Zomanus
    Zomanus 14 September 2015 08: 37 New
    +1
    Yeah, I would see (or maybe see) how Washington would "persuade" Texas to remain in the United States.
    There, of course, there will be no talk of gumconvoys from the "aggressor state".
  24. akudr48
    akudr48 14 September 2015 08: 54 New
    0
    Sometimes I have an incredible dream - that we somehow magically moved Ukraine to Western Europe so that it would flourish as a Western democracy with a viable and vibrant economy. Ukraine deserves such a future. But we cannot do this.

    Ehh, even in a dream they can’t, so what does the square expect from them in reality?
  25. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 14 September 2015 09: 04 New
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    Again, the Americans are causing a "shadow on the fence"! It’s necessary for the representative of the “political elite” of the United States to take such nonsense even for a moment! In a country where police officers easily shoot colored “citizens” in a dash, and any slightest protest against the arbitrariness of the authorities is radically suppressed by all means, up to the use of the Army! And these, politicians may say, are trying to teach us democracy ?! Yes, they are sick all over the head and their eyesight is very poor: they "try to make out a mote in the prying eyes, but don’t notice the logs in their own eyes." The article is just another dump of a heap of crap most likely for "domestic consumption", it’s possible they get their own people out! And all this "carousel" that the White House "muddied" with Ukraine has the main goal and task - to weaken Russia by any means and "ruin" the European Union, as the main competitor of the USA! And why not try the responsibility for what is being done to transfer the "head off to a healthy one" , and once again try to smuggle Putin mud! But these figures forgot the wise Arab proverb: "Throwing mud at someone, remember that you might not get into a person, but the dirt will remain on your hands!"
  26. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 14 September 2015 10: 01 New
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    Wow, how much negativity, dear colleagues, is splashed on Americans. But let me draw your attention to a couple of nuances. I want to remind you that The Washington Post is for the United States something like our Russian newspaper, not in terms of officialdom, of course, but in the coolness rating. And the appearance in this newspaper of an article containing the phrase:
    Putin has won his little war in Ukraine, and his Western critics pushed aside are watching and saliva in helpless rage.
    Today, Putin, to a much greater extent than Western leaders, can influence, and if necessary, control the course of economic, political and diplomatic events in Ukraine.

    it’s quite a serious “cold water tub” poured out on the Americans, who generally do not represent the possibility of defeat anywhere and ever. And in my opinion, the very fact of the appearance of such an article in the American press is already interesting, if only because it gives an idea that the West, if not in shock, from the actions of the GDP, then at least at a loss. By the way, there is a lot of evidence, but this is the topic of individual commentary.
    Here, dear colleagues, such an opinion. I have the honor.
  27. nnz226
    nnz226 14 September 2015 10: 11 New
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    Fools do not plow, do not sow - they themselves will be born!
  28. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 14 September 2015 10: 44 New
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    Author Marvin Kalb
    Oh my god ... Candies, you SO do not understand our mentality and are SO self-confident that there are not enough words. In short, take care of yourself better! Then maybe stretch a little longer, because, like, the United States should be destroyed (s). And sooner or later it will happen.
  29. Gouging
    Gouging 14 September 2015 10: 53 New
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    Mom gave birth to the author of this article. With his stupidity, he immediately hit the floor.
  30. Victor-M
    Victor-M 14 September 2015 11: 01 New
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    Sometimes I have an incredible dream - that we somehow magically moved Ukraine to Western Europe so that it would flourish as a Western democracy with a viable and vibrant economy. Ukraine deserves such a future. But we cannot do this. Ukraine will always have a common border with Russia, as well as a common culture, language and religion.

    Sometimes I have a wonderful dream that the US and the EU covered themselves with a copper basin and were mired in chaos and crisis. They deserved it, and it seems the dream was prophetic. wink laughing
  31. Termit1309
    Termit1309 14 September 2015 11: 18 New
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    Quote: Ajent Cho
    Oh my god ... Candies, you SO do not understand our mentality and are SO self-confident that there are not enough words.

    He, like most experts, and not a small part of American politicians receive information from local media. AND BELIEVE them. Therefore, it seems that he lives in a different reality distorted as in a crooked mirror. They simply cannot get information from another source. And they don’t want it the way the thought simply cannot appear in their head that they are not provided with all the information or even just lie. The author is not a stupid person, and does not pretend to be. They really think so. This is scary, if their shepherds make a mistake and pull the world to hell, the whole herd will support them without hesitation. And then the Arctic fox will come to the world.
  32. vladimirw
    vladimirw 14 September 2015 12: 23 New
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    again about imperial manners Putin and other rubbish, everything that is printed in the media will be in the book, debelism
  33. X Y Z
    X Y Z 14 September 2015 13: 14 New
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    The most interesting thing is that for this ... they give scientific titles, awards and print books. In general, the author is a scientist in its purest form; there is nowhere to put a sample.
  34. Victorio
    Victorio 14 September 2015 13: 22 New
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    Author Marvin Kalb is a senior adviser to the Pulitzer Center and a research fellow at the Brookings Institution. This month, his book Imperial Gamble: Putin, Ukraine and the New Cold War (Imperial adventure. Putin, Ukraine and the new cold war) will be released.
    ===
    yeah, "senior adviser"
  35. iouris
    iouris 14 September 2015 13: 33 New
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    Don’t give me a gop until you jump over. In addition, "victory in Ukraine" is impossible by definition. We need spiritual, economic, geopolitical integration.
  36. duchy
    duchy 14 September 2015 14: 59 New
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    Guys, what was it ?? what Really we won lying on the sofas ?? recourse
    This is YES, not like "hybrid wars" wink
    1. iouris
      iouris 14 September 2015 17: 30 New
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      Well, yes, but this is only at first glance. In fact, it’s now customary to sit and wait for at least 10 thousand years until the corpse of an enemy swims by (Chinese military trick).
  37. proto ukr
    proto ukr 14 September 2015 16: 48 New
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    dill for a long time in anal sex, parashenko pideraz
  38. lozman
    lozman 14 September 2015 17: 28 New
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    Posted by Marvin Kalb-cantuated stupid man.
  39. lozman
    lozman 14 September 2015 17: 39 New
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    Actually, I wrote, cantonous DEB ... L, through I, but the auto-editor found the "stupid person" more politically correct and enjoyable for Marvin Kalba.
  40. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 14 September 2015 20: 41 New
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    "18 months ago, when Russian President Vladimir Putin captured Crimea and provoked a pro-Russian uprising in the Donbass, Ukraine was hot news. Everyone condemned Putin, and devastating economic sanctions were imposed against Russia."

    Well, about the capture of the Crimea, presented by the Lysy Outskirts and the drenched Borey during the partition of the USSR, we all know ourselves. But about the provocation in the Donbass, this "independent" analyst distorted 100%. GDP just persuaded local oligarchs not to do this, but they decided differently. But I don’t like the current situation, because Donbass was given over to Akhmetov and his comrades. So this is not Donetsk People’s Republic, but Akhmetov’s patrimony supported by Russian oligarchs. And from here this sluggish reaction of the Russian Federation to the latest events in Donetsk. But I am afraid that this will demoralize part of the so-called troops. DNR, and this is fraught with future successes of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces in the Donbass and the loss of GDP of the confidence of the people of Donbass, and in Russia too, alas. And in this, the conclusion of this analyst leads to the fact that the SGA and its vassals should strengthen the sanctions on the Russian Federation in order to quickly dump the GDP and appoint its own person watching over Russia! am
  41. Michael - 235
    Michael - 235 14 September 2015 22: 16 New
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    For an employee of the Brookings Institution, the phrase: "Ukraine became an independent state only in 1991, when the Soviet Union collapsed," is unacceptable, because overnight it breaks all the ideological and political configurations that the United States played in the confrontation they played in Ukraine.
  42. olegst
    olegst 15 September 2015 00: 17 New
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    “Sometimes I have an incredible dream - that we somehow magically moved Ukraine to Western Europe so that it would flourish as a Western democracy with a viable and active economy.”, He laughed heartily. I would rather believe that the dream is about how the Soros Foundation has postponed a decent fee for the "intellectual" excrement presented in this scribble ....
  43. Support
    Support 15 September 2015 00: 49 New
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    And such a feeling from the article that the author is envious of us, Russians and Russians.
  44. Garris199
    Garris199 15 September 2015 00: 52 New
    +1
    Sometimes I have an incredible dream - that we somehow magically moved Ukraine to Western Europeso that she thrives like western democracy with a viable and vibrant economy. Ukraine deserves such a future.

    It is as if not sourly hinting to the Hungarians, Poles, Czechs, Greeks, etc., where the crayfish hibernate smile
  45. Redfox3k
    Redfox3k 15 September 2015 01: 51 New
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    Article - the next drooling ravings of the Anglo-Saxons.
  46. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 15 September 2015 13: 38 New
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    Sometimes I have an incredible dream - that we somehow magically moved Ukraine to Western Europe so that it would flourish as a Western democracy with a viable and vibrant economy.

    But I readily believe in it. Suspend pig EU Yankees are always happy. laughing
    1. Arjuna
      Arjuna 16 September 2015 06: 49 New
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      Quote: Alexey RA
      Ukraine writhes in his iron arms

      called Donbass, asking: "How do you like in our iron arms? writhe? !!"
      And I hear a peppy answer: "Hold it tight! To the crunch in the bones ..."