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M.Delyagin: “The Soviet legacy has basically ended, there is nothing more to steal”

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M.Delyagin: “The Soviet legacy has basically ended, there is nothing more to steal”



The causes of the crisis are not sanctions, but the policy of the Russian liberals.

The press got information about the bill prepared by the Ministry of Finance.

In it, in particular, it is proposed to suspend the budget rule relating expenses to the price of oil. In addition, announced the transition to a one-year budget.

All these measures are justified by falling oil prices.

The famous economist Mikhail Delyagin commented on the KM.RU portal measures proposed by the Ministry of Finance.

The plan was not the law, but only a forecast


- The budget rule is taken from the ceiling, and its cancellation is the right initiative. It was invented in order to justify the failure of the state to fulfill its official duties. That is, there was a fundamental rejection of development, when the budget was choking on money, but this money did not go anywhere, but was used to ensure the financial stability of the United States and the Eurozone countries.

Cancellation of this rule is not for meaningful reasons, but simply because there is less money. And now there is a lot of money - unused balances on federal accounts exceed 9 trillions of rubles, but in any case, the abolition of the budget rule is a positive thing.

As for the rejection of the three-year budget planning, we need to understand that the budgets of the second and third years have always been revised, and very significantly. The plan was not a law, but merely a forecast, serving as a guideline for the economy, business, and government officials.

But when the state refuses to give everyone guidance, it has a disorganizing effect on the economy. And this is absolutely wrong. It is as if I wrote with errors, but instead of improving my literacy, I would stop writing at all, but only dictate. It is impossible to do this, it is indulgence in weaknesses and limited opportunities instead of developing them.

There is nothing more to steal, and the model begins to choke


From the economy, I expect a continuation of the fall, if we talk about the outlook for the next few months. At the same time, the ruble is stabilizing after September. We have peaks of payments - in September and December, but before the New Year, I think, the ruble will make one significant fluctuation, and it can be in any direction.

The fact is that our insiders need to celebrate the New Year well, and with the help of the fluctuation of the ruble they will provide themselves with ultra-high profits. Insiders are unpunished, which means they will do their work.

The causes of the crisis are not sanctions, but the policy of Russian liberals, borrowed from the 90s. I remind you that both the devaluation of the ruble and the stampede of capital began in January, 2014, when there was no talk of sanctions, and oil was worth more than $ 105 per barrel.

So this is a crisis of the whole model of the Russian economy, built in 90-e. Roughly speaking, there is nothing more to steal, and the model begins to choke, just like a car that ran out of gas. The Soviet legacy basically ended, there is nothing more to steal.

Talking about the forecast for the next few years does not make sense. Because either we will move on to a development model, and this will be a qualitatively new reality that we cannot imagine right now. Either from the model of plunder, we turn to destruction. And this is also a qualitatively different reality. But we can imagine this, especially if we look at Ukraine.

The first option is more likely, because the second is a nightmare. When the USSR collapsed, almost no one believed in it until the last minute, but now everyone understands that the model of economic destruction is a nightmare. There are no significant political and administrative forces that would like to.
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  1. Ilya77
    Ilya77 10 September 2015 14: 54 New
    +89
    They steal from the terrible, I work at the factory - I am horrified. In the mid-2000s there was a boss who restored partly everything, the plant flourished. Now they again plundered in a new way, without looking at anyone, just to fill their pocket and dump it. And I know that this is almost everywhere, they steal, regardless of whether you are a liberal, a communist or a monarchist, or someone else. The state began to invest in the defense industry - immediately leeches appeared which were loot, workers and engineers both ran and ran. They began to invest in import substitution - and here the same picture. I don’t know how this will end, most likely nothing.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 10 September 2015 14: 56 New
      +4
      Quote: Ilya77
      They steal from the terrible, I work at the factory - I am horrified.


      Did they write to the prosecutor’s office?
      1. Mareman Vasilich
        Mareman Vasilich 10 September 2015 15: 05 New
        +101
        And what will help? Do we have systematic landings for theft were (for misuse of state funds)? After all, Medvedev said that the system should forgive, and not to imprison for economic crimes. Impunity has created irresponsibility. It makes sense to contact the prosecutor when you know the issue will be considered. Or do you believe that fat officials rage on salaries? Maybe you think the difference in salaries of deputies and educators in kindergartens is correct? She's thirtyfold. In Kaluga, educators earn 17 tr, at a rate of 9000. And the deputies of the prize have half a million each.
        1. Will
          Will 10 September 2015 15: 33 New
          +47
          And what about those who have salaries and pensions of 7 thousand? How do they survive?
        2. RiverVV
          RiverVV 10 September 2015 16: 00 New
          +5
          Well, if you think so: “it will not help” - then nothing will change for sure. Gopnik beat in the yard - "all the same they will not be found." Robbed - "Well, I forgot to close the door myself." In general, the prosecutor’s office considers any appeal.
          1. beer-youk
            beer-youk 10 September 2015 16: 08 New
            +12
            Exactly. Pay to accept the application, run, pushing, and get in the end "No grounds for verification found."
          2. for
            for 11 September 2015 19: 33 New
            +3
            Gopnik beat in the yard -

            kill the gopnik
          3. derik1970
            derik1970 12 September 2015 23: 24 New
            +2
            in 2008 a car hit me at a pedestrian crossing, a fracture of both legs, and so on, and what's the point ... the prosecutor’s office said that there weren’t any complaints to anyone, and hinted that they say it’s my own fault that the street was crossing, how can I prove something I don’t have any witnesses ... but I had to lie with fractures for 8 months, it’s good that I managed to get back to work and there was no one to run through the courts, if only because there was hardly enough money for medicines ... The prosecutor’s office is considering but in favor of those the same gopniks ... they somehow beat me on the street, because the driver of our UAZ rubbed paint on the car of one of the gopnik local authorities when he parked ... and interestingly, I was sitting next to the driver and I can’t drive a car, but I I got it, because I was just indignant at the gopota arrivals ... I don’t have money for a lawyer, and gopniks, that is, local businessmen immediately found both money and a lawyer and the situation turned around so that I myself was to blame, although there was a lot of blood in it, there were a lot of witnesses etc ... one Gopnik even put gypsum on his arm if it’s his arm broken ... I neigh then when I agreed on compensation ... how many I read comments and I see that the stars on your and other uniforms are a fetish like our prosecutor’s office with the police ...
          4. Alexashka964
            Alexashka964 13 September 2015 05: 43 New
            +1
            Quote: RiverVV
            In general, the prosecutor’s office considers any appeal.

            She considers any appeals, only the points through which she considers are also different!
            Are you aware that ALL enterprises are now private (with the exception of schools, hospitals, the police, and actually the prosecutor’s office. Oh yes! The White Houses have also forgotten a couple of sub-state structures such as social security, etc.)?
            Do you think it’s so easy for the prosecutor’s office to check the activities of a PRIVATE enterprise (which is MANDATORY under the “roof” of either legalized criminals, or ...). Under the ellipsis - cops, actually the prosecutor’s office ... missed add.
            The prosecutor’s office doesn’t get into the work of enterprises, only on the basis of the FAS command from the Kremlin ...
      2. Juborg
        Juborg 10 September 2015 15: 07 New
        +51
        Quote: vorobey
        Quote: Ilya77
        They steal from the terrible, I work at the factory - I am horrified.


        Did they write to the prosecutor’s office?


        Naive-ah-ah-ah !!!
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 10 September 2015 15: 33 New
          +26
          Wife today from work came a physician of the Federal Penitentiary Service in Buryatia cut off the salary for 10 percent - there is no money in the treasury to explain .. cause and effect
          1. Juborg
            Juborg 10 September 2015 16: 02 New
            +13
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            Wife today from work came a physician of the Federal Penitentiary Service in Buryatia cut off the salary for 10 percent - there is no money in the treasury to explain .. cause and effect

            Workers not only cut wages by 10%, but also staff. Although loafers there are 80%. And everyone complains, they pay little, the work is hard, they get tired, they don’t lift the keys to the cameras and the machine (who is in the guard) heavier. By the way, everyone complains that the standards are physically forced to pass and other knowledge will be checked constantly.
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 10 September 2015 16: 25 New
              -6
              You have such a feeling on the other side of the thorn ..
              1. Juborg
                Juborg 10 September 2015 16: 53 New
                +2
                afdjhbn67, if it’s addressed to me, then first-hand infa (I have a friend who started a pre-trial detention center).
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 10 September 2015 17: 23 New
                  +16
                  Quote: afdjhbn67
                  You have such a feeling on the other side of the thorn ..

                  .
                  Quote: juborg
                  afdjhbn67, if it’s addressed to me, then first-hand infa (I have a friend who started a pre-trial detention center).


                  oh .. the guys are more careful ... there wasn’t enough yet that the proletarians of the state employees would start to beat ... this will be a civil war ..

                  laughing

                  and all the cones will get to me again - petty Nepman laughing
            2. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 10 September 2015 20: 27 New
              +9
              Quote: juborg
              everyone complains that the standards are physically forced to take and other knowledge is constantly checked

              Well, if it’s not enough, then let them go to work in factories where a pension of 60 years is still, and not after 12,5 years of service as a supervisor.
          2. Nick
            Nick 10 September 2015 21: 08 New
            +9
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            Wife today from work came a physician of the Federal Penitentiary Service in Buryatia cut off the salary for 10 percent - there is no money in the treasury to explain .. cause and effect

            Now state employees cut 10% salaries, and in non-budget offices incomes have already fallen by two
        2. kuz363
          kuz363 10 September 2015 15: 56 New
          -9
          Rather stupid and divorced from life
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 10 September 2015 16: 16 New
            +3
            Quote: kuz363
            Rather stupid and divorced from life


            moot point ... repeat
        3. theodore rasp
          theodore rasp 10 September 2015 16: 16 New
          +45
          I remembered the joke.
          I thought that the gayts were the first extortionists, while I had no business with customs officers. The other day I went to the prosecutor's office ... Customs officers are saints !!!
          1. Saratoga833
            Saratoga833 10 September 2015 16: 39 New
            +13
            Quote: Theodore Rasp
            The other day I went to the prosecutor’s office ...

            MN Zadornov correctly said: "Lawyers are the most unscrupulous estate in the world!"
            1. voronbel53
              voronbel53 10 September 2015 17: 08 New
              +7
              Quote: Saratoga833
              MN Zadornov correctly said: "Lawyers are the most unscrupulous estate in the world!"

              And lawyers, in general, have nowhere to put samples - they amnesty anyone ...
              1. derik1970
                derik1970 12 September 2015 23: 26 New
                0
                do not go to the fortuneteller, all the time ... bully
            2. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 10 September 2015 20: 30 New
              0
              Quote: Saratoga833
              "Lawyers are the most unscrupulous estate in the world!"

              And I do not agree with him. Not every lawyer is unscrupulous. This applies more to lawyers.
        4. Asadullah
          Asadullah 10 September 2015 16: 32 New
          0
          Naive-ah-ah-ah !!!


          And what are they stealing in the prosecutor’s office?

          My surprise knows no boundaries, everyone steals, the president, the government, liberals, communists, doctors, teachers, students, schoolchildren! Somewhere I already heard it:

          1. aleks700
            aleks700 12 September 2015 05: 44 New
            +4
            And what are they stealing in the prosecutor’s office?
            The prosecutors do not steal! They do not need. They protect those who steal.
        5. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 10 September 2015 17: 47 New
          +2
          Sorry for one + and only two hands. ++++++++++++++
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 10 September 2015 15: 13 New
        +29
        Quote: vorobey
        Did they write to the prosecutor’s office?

        The main task of prosecutor’s investigators is not the investigation of the allegations, but their competent reply!
        1. Vadim12
          Vadim12 10 September 2015 15: 37 New
          +11
          The prosecutor’s office has formed a whole system of unsubscribes. Nothing has changed since Gogol.
        2. marlin1203
          marlin1203 10 September 2015 15: 53 New
          +10
          "Prosecutorial sleds" has not existed since 2007, when an investigative committee was formed. However, behind the times laughing
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 10 September 2015 21: 20 New
            +2
            Quote: marlin1203
            "Prosecutorial sleds" has not existed since 2007, when an investigative committee was formed. However, laughing is behind the times

            Quote: Kos_kalinki9
            There are no traces in the prosecutor's office, no !!!!!!!!

            Guys, but the same people are working. Call the longboat a liner, a hanger with a limousine, but the essence remains the same. hi
            P.S. Over the years of the existence of the investigative committee, there have been more corruption scandals than in the prosecutor's office before. it seems that all the "hucksters in uniform" went there. hi
        3. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 10 September 2015 17: 54 New
          +1
          There are no traces in the prosecutor's office, no !!!!!!!!
      4. veksha50
        veksha50 10 September 2015 15: 15 New
        +34
        Quote: vorobey
        Did they write to the prosecutor’s office?



        Hmm ... There are few examples of Serdyukov and Vasilyeva ???
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 10 September 2015 15: 21 New
          +4
          Quote: veksha50
          Example Serdyukov and Vasilyeva little ???


          well, besides them there are still fewer cones ... besides, we don’t know how much the assets of Serdyukov and Vasilyeva really decreased ... and Zubkov is not heard ... Planting is easier than forcing to return ...

          You’re naive gentlemen ... even I’m a goal like a falcon ... one on my wife, second on my mother, third on my brother ... I can’t even present me a bank ... and you tell me about examples ... who confiscate .. if by law ...
          1. Saratoga833
            Saratoga833 10 September 2015 16: 43 New
            +6
            Quote: vorobey
            you tell me about examples ... from whom to confiscate ... if by law ...

            You can ALWAYS confiscate stolen things, there would be a desire and political will! No matter who the loot was written on!
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 10 September 2015 16: 50 New
              +2
              Quote: Saratoga833
              You can ALWAYS confiscate stolen goods.


              Tell me how ...
              1. Ezhaak
                Ezhaak 10 September 2015 20: 35 New
                +3
                Quote: vorobey
                Tell me how ...

                Two options. 1. Rob the loot and 2. Expropriation. laughing
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              3. Weyland
                Weyland 10 September 2015 22: 16 New
                +7
                Quote: vorobey
                Tell me how ...


                You were clearly told -
                Quote: Saratoga833
                there would be a desire and political will!


                Nobody said anything about legality ...

                Before, when there was no rule "the son is not responsible for the father", it was easier: Aleksashka Menshikov was exiled to Berezov with the whole family, and after his death, the heirs were offered a simple choice:
                a) return to the state stolen by dad from the Bank of London (by the way, only 1,5 annual GDP of RI) - and get an amnesty plus bonus - 10% of the stolen.
                b) do not return anything - and sit for life.
                Guess what they chose? wink
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 10 September 2015 22: 39 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Weyland
                  Previously, when there was no rule "the son does not answer for the father", it was simpler: Aleksashka Menshikov was exiled to Berezov with his whole family, and after his death the heirs were offered a simple choice:
                  a) return to the state stolen by a dad from a London bank (by the way, just 1,5 annual GDP of RI) - and receive an amnesty plus bonuses - 10% of the stolen.
                  b) do not return anything - and sit for life.
                  Guess what they chose?


                  We return to Mrs. Vasilyeva ... there were allegations that the alleged damage was estimated at three lard? and after the udo, the lawyers said that supposedly they were not going to take actions to remove the seizure from Vasilieva’s property in the amount of 300 lemons - exactly 10% coincidence? belay
            2. one
              one 10 September 2015 17: 40 New
              0
              Quote: Saratoga833
              Quote: vorobey
              you tell me about examples ... from whom to confiscate ... if by law ...

              You can ALWAYS confiscate stolen things, there would be a desire and political will! No matter who the loot was written on!

              and not stolen, either.
              laughing
            3. Das Boot
              Das Boot 10 September 2015 20: 11 New
              0
              Quote: Saratoga833
              there would be a desire and political will!

              please link judicial proceedings and “political will”.
              Thanks in advance.
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 10 September 2015 21: 37 New
                +1
                Quote: Das Boot
                Quote: Saratoga833
                there would be a desire and political will!

                please link judicial proceedings and “political will”.
                Thanks in advance.

                good

                you want to consider this issue on the example of the state with which system ... democracy, despotism or monarchy?
          2. veksha50
            veksha50 10 September 2015 17: 03 New
            +1
            Quote: vorobey
            You are gentlemen naive ... even I am a goal like a falcon ... one on my wife, second on my mother, third on my brother ...



            It reminds the film "Watch out for the car" ... "You don’t have anything !!! You are a starving man !!!" ...

            So then, in general, there are no methods to deal with this and will not ???
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 10 September 2015 17: 40 New
              +6
              Quote: veksha50
              So then, in general, there are no methods to deal with this and will not ???


              so I say ... planting is easier than forcing to return ... Father repaid for Vasilyev ... - such a great businessman? or at the trough thanks to my daughter I ended up ... and we don’t know how much the assets really decreased ..

              I go to the notary’s office ... one Notary - Ivanova, assistant to the notary Ivanova ... second notary Vasilyeva, assistant to the notary Vasilyev and nobody throws stones at them ... the family teams work, they put stamps and everything is fine ... and despite no one calls the exploiters the price ...
            2. Weyland
              Weyland 10 September 2015 22: 23 New
              +9
              Quote: veksha50
              So then, in general, there are no methods to deal with this and will not ???


              In Iran, when appointing a person to a high post, the special commission checks the financial condition of both him and all relatives. After dismissal from this post, the verification is repeated - and in the case of a sharp enrichment of some "citizen Baturina" automatically begin the investigation
          3. igor1981
            igor1981 10 September 2015 19: 38 New
            +6
            Quote: vorobey
            Planting it is easier than making it return ...


            So you can return and plant. I still can’t understand with what kind of lyady this mimra (Vasiliev) was released. request
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 10 September 2015 20: 04 New
              +3
              Quote: igor1981
              Quote: vorobey
              Planting it is easier than making it return ...


              So you can return and plant. I still can’t understand with what kind of lyady this mimra (Vasiliev) was released. request


              I also can’t understand ... the lawyers and the FSIN did everything beautifully there. but, in principle, that simple word of the inode is higher than any money .. after all, the figures there were probably mixed up wow ... and Vasilieva knew and knew the accounts in offshore .... and nevertheless, her criminal record was not canceled and you’ll get it no new facts will come up, and this is a relapse already ... Well, they put Khodor, well, they took away everything ... but all? Came out angry and preoccupied so can it just make you sit upright?
            2. aleks700
              aleks700 12 September 2015 05: 50 New
              0
              .
              I still can’t understand with what kind of lyady this mimra (Vasiliev) was released
              Believe me - no one can.
              1. cuzmin.mihail2013
                cuzmin.mihail2013 12 September 2015 12: 15 New
                +3
                From an interview Colonel General L.G. Ivashov, the chief editor of "Soviet Russia" V.V. Chikinu
                Chikin V.V. Leonid Grigoryevich, how would you rate the completed trial in the case of Oboronservis and the main person involved Evgenia Vasilyeva?
                Ivashov L.G. This is not a judicial investigative process, but a political and psychological performance that lasted more than two years. Here, the law and the code of criminal procedure rested, and the domestic political intrigue worked with its kickbacks, cuts, homies, etc. This so-called process has demonstrated that there is Russia today and who runs it.
                ... But Serdyukov cannot be judged without several dozens of dignitaries sitting on the dock. Imagine how Padva’s lawyer, for example, will block Serdyukov. First: "He is not a professional, he does not understand anything in military affairs, he could not be appointed to the post of Minister of Defense." Those. the one who appointed is to blame. Second: “After all, Serdyukov did not make decisions on the implementation of certain reforms, he only proposed them, by virtue of his purely commercial knowledge and experience. These proposals were considered at meetings of the Security Council, committees of the Federal Assembly, approved by the government, where the former prime minister in charge of defense issues was ex-defense minister S. Ivanov. So Serdyukov is not guilty of anything, completely different officials are to blame. ” Third: “Around Minister Serdyukov there were generals and officers, a collegium of the Ministry of Defense, who also applauded all the innovations of my client,” the lawyer would have said.
                And, of course, Serdyukov is pretending to be a lamb, so injured by the young, which negligent girls have fingered around. Who to plant? No, because there is no Stalin friend. Such is the nature of big crime and big betrayal.
                http://topwar.ru/81499-o-bednom-ministre-zamolvite-slovo-.html
          4. Goga101
            Goga101 13 September 2015 14: 53 New
            0
            Vorobey - You have such a surname - Skrynik - have you heard? So Vasilieva is a poor and honest girl, compared to this aunt ... so what? The prosecutor’s office even hinted at billions and billions merged through the Ministry of Agriculture? Well, nafig - they got everything like a mouthful, neither in newspapers, nor on websites, nor - much less - on TV ....
            In our city, every year, they dig from 12 to 15 million people - they allegedly catch the dogs of the homeless ... and more and more every year ... and catch them - with a population of less than 500 thousand, they “catch” the dogs (by paper) more than in Moscow !!! And the funniest thing is that at the same time they (dogs) are not getting smaller, but quite the contrary - every year more and more .... They wrote and more than once to the prosecutor’s office, they provided numbers, calculations ... - nifiga, no reaction, the prosecutor’s office responded - the materials were sent for verification ... moreover, it will be checked by the person against whom these materials testify ... that's all, though sign up .... The colleague was right, who wrote - “kill the gopnik” - no one, neither the prosecutor’s office, nor the police, nor the UK will protect us - they don’t live for that ... we are protected just as much as we are able to protect ourselves and nothing more ...
        2. lelikas
          lelikas 10 September 2015 16: 15 New
          +9
          Quote: veksha50
          Hmm ... There are few examples of Serdyukov and Vasilyeva ???

          SO WHAT ? Normally it turns out - everyone knew and saw and heard everything - but no one is anywhere - then everyone is actively surprised - what is it in this shit? No ?
          Just for fun, I’ll give an example - TAG Plant - LMZ affiliate - mid-90s - everything also fell, slowly stolen, didn’t thump at all, sat without work ..... As a result, our site was dispersed, I was cut, the plant continued to bend quietly.
          After 15 years, I met a friend from the brigade, already retired, but still working at the same factory - I didn’t complain about the salary (the figures for three years are outdated), but everything is good, the question is how? -
          The leadership has changed, after that -
          - From the beginning, they set the framework for the entrance. Theft is the color of meta and just metal almost stopped.
          The next step was to install the very ducts that you need to blow into ... and at the entrance and exit from work, the condition is simple - drunk - immediately dismissal.
          After several excesses, they increased to 0,4 ppm - after all, not all half-past six in the morning could come “as dry as a leaf”.
          After the masters came running a couple of times with the words, leave me an etgl of a turner - a locksmith - and so on. they were told ok, then quit yourself, and let him work for you ...
          There were more measures, but all this led to the fact that the plant started working.
          1. yuriy55
            yuriy55 10 September 2015 16: 37 New
            +1
            ... the plant has earned ...
            Has he started to release something new? Or, as always, heaps up warehouses with "cast-iron ingots"? smile
            1. lelikas
              lelikas 10 September 2015 17: 41 New
              +3
              Quote: yuriy55
              ... the plant has earned ...
              Has he started to release something new? Or, as always, heaps up warehouses with "cast-iron ingots"? smile

              He produced a lot of things, from turbines to trolleys for grandmothers.
              What is honest now - I don’t know, and it’s not particularly interesting already. wink
          2. fox21h
            fox21h 10 September 2015 17: 06 New
            +3
            Quote: lelikas
            Quote: veksha50
            Hmm ... There are few examples of Serdyukov and Vasilyeva ???

            SO WHAT ? Normally it turns out - everyone knew and saw and heard everything - but no one is anywhere - then everyone is actively surprised - what is it in this shit? No ?
            Just for fun, I’ll give an example - TAG Plant - LMZ affiliate - mid-90s - everything also fell, slowly stolen, didn’t thump at all, sat without work ..... As a result, our site was dispersed, I was cut, the plant continued to bend quietly.
            After 15 years, I met a friend from the brigade, already retired, but still working at the same factory - I didn’t complain about the salary (the figures for three years are outdated), but everything is good, the question is how? -
            The leadership has changed, after that -
            - From the beginning, they set the framework for the entrance. Theft is the color of meta and just metal almost stopped.
            The next step was to install the very ducts that you need to blow into ... and at the entrance and exit from work, the condition is simple - drunk - immediately dismissal.
            After several excesses, they increased to 0,4 ppm - after all, not all half-past six in the morning could come “as dry as a leaf”.
            After the masters came running a couple of times with the words, leave me an etgl of a turner - a locksmith - and so on. they were told ok, then quit yourself, and let him work for you ...
            There were more measures, but all this led to the fact that the plant started working.

            This is of course important, but all this is at the level of error, if the management wants to drown the plant, it will drown it, if on the contrary, then this is polishing, which you described above.
            1. lelikas
              lelikas 10 September 2015 17: 36 New
              +5
              Quote: fox21h
              This is of course important, but all this is at the level of error, if the management wants to drown the plant, it will drown it, if on the contrary, then this is polishing, which you described above.

              They can drown us (and not just by the way) against the will of the leadership, but the question is rather what really needs to be done - or think about yourself or about work.
              There is another example - they took a "talented manager" to the previous office - there were several condates, but they took as a result of the fact that he promised to radically increase the profitability, almost by 100%. it all ended with cuts in the RFP, regular places, fines for each bunch not on schedule, and as a result, all normal people fired, and he, having rolled out a new resume on the job, dumped in a year and a half.
          3. veksha50
            veksha50 10 September 2015 17: 07 New
            +6
            Quote: lelikas
            There were more measures, but all this led to the fact that the plant started working.



            That is, it was not necessary to reinvent the wheel, but simply to force everyone to fulfill their duties ...

            PS At one time I received a bulldozer from my bosses for the fact that when I was forced to speak at a meeting in favor of perestroika, I said too short: "There is nothing to rebuild ... Let everyone carry out their duties as expected" ...
            1. max702
              max702 10 September 2015 22: 08 New
              +3
              Quote: veksha50
              That is, it was not necessary to reinvent the wheel, but simply to force everyone to fulfill their duties ...

              BOOOO! By the way, this applies to the whole state, starting from the very top .. fulfill your duties and everything will be fine .. but that’s the problem, if they try poorly to fulfill them at the bottom, then they don’t seem to be obscured at the top of the clouds .. that's enough for them.
          4. Ilya77
            Ilya77 10 September 2015 18: 06 New
            +2
            Quote: lelikas
            Quote: veksha50
            Hmm ... There are few examples of Serdyukov and Vasilyeva ???

            SO WHAT ? Normally it turns out - everyone knew and saw and heard everything - but no one is anywhere - then everyone is actively surprised - what is it in this shit? No ?
            Just for fun, I’ll give an example - TAG Plant - LMZ affiliate - mid-90s - everything also fell, slowly stolen, didn’t thump at all, sat without work ..... As a result, our site was dispersed, I was cut, the plant continued to bend quietly.
            After 15 years, I met a friend from the brigade, already retired, but still working at the same factory - I didn’t complain about the salary (the figures for three years are outdated), but everything is good, the question is how? -
            The leadership has changed, after that -
            - From the beginning, they set the framework for the entrance. Theft is the color of meta and just metal almost stopped.
            The next step was to install the very ducts that you need to blow into ... and at the entrance and exit from work, the condition is simple - drunk - immediately dismissal.
            After several excesses, they increased to 0,4 ppm - after all, not all half-past six in the morning could come “as dry as a leaf”.
            After the masters came running a couple of times with the words, leave me an etgl of a turner - a locksmith - and so on. they were told ok, then quit yourself, and let him work for you ...
            There were more measures, but all this led to the fact that the plant started working.


            Well, we also had it .. and then a bold piece attracted all sorts of sticking, so in the end they brought the defense enterprise (which is actually in private hands) to collapse. Whenever a bold piece appears, sticks immediately fly there, and their schemes are such that it is unrealistic to take them for the gills, even check yourself. But in the end, the state loses - either it is left without production of something, or is forced to buy at inflated prices.
      5. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 10 September 2015 15: 36 New
        +12
        Quote: vorobey
        Did they write to the prosecutor’s office?

        wrote .... !!! complained about the work of the management company ...
        three folders of prosecutor’s letters were collected, and if you write to a higher prosecutor’s office, then the statement is again lowered to the lower, in simple terms, to the district.
        And nothing has changed!
        1. RiverVV
          RiverVV 10 September 2015 16: 05 New
          0
          This is the wrong approach. First: a statement is being written to the city prosecutor's office. "I became aware of the crime ... lalala ..." Secondly: it is duplicated in the regional. Third: contact your deputy. By the way, do you know his last name? You write that you are afraid of corruption in the prosecution authorities. Fighting her is always in fashion. Ask to take control of the case.
          Fourth: without waiting for answers, write a statement to the Prosecutor General.
          Sit back and watch the avalanche descend.
          And the results are already - you can put it on the network.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 10 September 2015 16: 20 New
            +5
            Quote: RiverVV
            First: a statement is being written to the city prosecutor's office. "I became aware of the crime ... lalala ..." Secondly: it is duplicated in the regional. Third: contact your deputy. By the way, do you know his last name? You write that you are afraid of corruption in the prosecution authorities. Fighting her is always in fashion. Ask to take the matter under control. Fourth: without waiting for answers, write a statement to the Prosecutor General.


            And everywhere on letters put a copy of number 5 ... even if the four brawls arranged and phoned ... they will look for the fifth for a very long time and they’ll surrender their nerves ..

            Quote: RiverVV
            Sit back and watch the avalanche descend.
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          3. Hon
            Hon 10 September 2015 17: 02 New
            +4
            an avalanche of what? unsubscribe?))
          4. veksha50
            veksha50 10 September 2015 17: 09 New
            +5
            Quote: RiverVV
            Sit back and watch the avalanche descend.


            And at this time you get old-gray, and there you look - and the grandchildren of the great-grandchildren have already dragged them to their grandfather’s knees ...
            1. EvgNik
              EvgNik 10 September 2015 18: 53 New
              +3
              Quote: veksha50
              And at this time you get old, gray, and there you look - and the grandchildren of the great-grandchildren have already dragged them to their grandfather's knees.

              I think you will not have time not only to wait for the grandchildren, but also to grow old. Here turn gray - this is quite likely.
              1. veksha50
                veksha50 10 September 2015 21: 48 New
                +2
                Quote: EvgNik
                Here turn gray - this is quite likely.



                Unfortunately, this stage has already been passed ... The second - grandchildren - too ... the third - great-grandchildren - I won’t wait, as well as the fact that the prosecutor’s office will work as expected ...
          5. _Brown_
            _Brown_ 10 September 2015 17: 27 New
            +5
            An interesting recipe, but this is no longer an appeal to the prosecutor’s office in order to protect violated rights, but a combat with the prosecutor’s office itself. )))
        2. grandfather
          grandfather 11 September 2015 20: 02 New
          +1
          Yes, a similar situation. Executive authorities are masters in writing letters, they don’t react at all ...
          A bag of potatoes was stolen or a loaf of bread in the store, punishments can not be avoided. And the swindlers from the housing and communal services or the district (city) administration are not noticed.
      6. kuz363
        kuz363 10 September 2015 15: 54 New
        +7
        Did he try to file a complaint with his superiors? In the best case, they will be fired, and they will always find reasons. At worst, they will be left disabled or without a head at all. You probably don’t watch movies?
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 10 September 2015 16: 03 New
          +5
          Quote: kuz363
          Did he try to file a complaint with his superiors?


          I am my own boss .. tongue I want to work, I want to drink ..


          Quote: kuz363
          You probably don’t watch movies?


          if a movie is shot it means it’s profitable for someone ... well, for example, on the order of the Moscow government ..., with the support of the Ministry of the Interior, laughing
        2. veksha50
          veksha50 10 September 2015 17: 15 New
          +2
          Quote: kuz363
          You probably don’t watch movies?



          At one time, Lenin talked about cinema as one of the excellent tools of propaganda ...

          Contemporary cinema is often a video tool explaining what will happen to a person who wants to go against the system ... Or the person representing this system ...

          Counterpropaganda, so to speak ...
          1. ALABAY45
            ALABAY45 10 September 2015 19: 39 New
            +3
            Well, and not only: “While the people are illiterate, of all the arts, cinema and the circus are the most important for us!” The circus is not going to leave anywhere, but the "kin", apparently, will no longer be ... crying (old, gray-haired cynic pessimist, with three grandchildren and granddaughter)
      7. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 10 September 2015 16: 37 New
        +7
        There is a way out, or rather I dreamed about it in the afternoon drill, a large mass grave with the inscription on it: the Liberal Government of the Russian Federation. From the grateful inhabitants of Russia, amen! stop
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 10 September 2015 17: 16 New
          +3
          Quote: Major Yurik
          From the grateful inhabitants of Russia, amen!



          When and where to bring the wreath ???
          1. Major Yurik
            Major Yurik 10 September 2015 17: 24 New
            +4
            Quote: veksha50
            Quote: Major Yurik
            From the grateful inhabitants of Russia, amen!



            When and where to bring the wreath ???


            George, I’ll clarify the address, but personally I will bring an aspen stake to this grave! hi
            1. veksha50
              veksha50 10 September 2015 21: 50 New
              +2
              Quote: Major Yurik
              George, I’ll clarify the address, but personally I will bring an aspen stake to this grave!



              But surely - why am I grabbing a wreath ??? Count, and not one ...
      8. EvgNik
        EvgNik 10 September 2015 18: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: vorobey
        Did they write to the prosecutor’s office?

        And what do the prosecutors know nothing? Everyone knows better than ours, all hands. But. In that but - the whole thing. Private enterprises, so: do not touch, otherwise you will already answer in full, and the owner of the enterprise - the master, does what he wants: at least he will sell it for scrap metal in parts. And he will drive the workers out into the street. What is happening with us at many factories.
      9. Aleksandr72
        Aleksandr72 10 September 2015 18: 54 New
        +7
        What's the point? If in our country (in Russia, in Kazakhstan), prosecutors on vacation no longer even fly to Turkey or Thailand, but to the Bahamas, Courchevel, etc. Not advertising, but not especially hiding it. And to the question "where did the money come from, Zin?" boldly answer - on vacation. And what are such great vacation pay? - And it depends on whom to let go! wassat Perhaps I am also exaggerating and in the prosecutor's office (court, police, city hall, etc.) there are still honest people who put the public good above the personal one. Yes, I haven’t seen such a thing recently. Alas.
        I have the honor.
      10. lukewarm
        lukewarm 11 September 2015 08: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: vorobey
        Did they write to the prosecutor’s office?

        Is he tired of living? For the rest - see the "case" by Vasilyeva. And also ... The plant works from 8 to 17. Given the travel time, it’s impossible to get to the prosecutor’s office. The author, however, is not a representative of the kreatiff class, who is from жан jean-Jacques ’to a rally, then to the prosecutor’s office, then to the court
        And in general - the prosecutor’s office is part of the government. The authorities of the ruling class. The ruling class is the bourgeoisie. Such as she "degenerated" in the 90s - criminal, greyhound, thieving. Accordingly, cut is a kind of ideology. Which everyone follows
        regardless of whether you are a liberal, a communist or a monarchist, or someone else.
        and even request, horror, the Vostochny spaceport
        So it is possible and necessary to fight. Only this is like crushing acne without noticing the last stage of cancer.
      11. for
        for 11 September 2015 19: 32 New
        0
        And you an example with Vasilyeva is not enough?
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 10 September 2015 15: 04 New
      +10
      Nothing to steal?
      Taki Delyagin is not familiar with Marxism or what? And then things and bowels ?! They steal labor first of all. The rest is attached. It would have been so if no one had touched except for needs. But out of nowhere a gesheft appeared - loan interest. fellow
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 10 September 2015 15: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        gesheft - loan interest.


        and the rollback is in veiled form ...
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    4. Lumumba
      Lumumba 10 September 2015 15: 08 New
      +43
      I also worked at the factory. And I can tell you how they steal there. Firstly, they take out the machines, sell them to private owners. IOPS stand, can’t do anything, miss the call from above and miss.

      Secondly, all sorts of small LLCs are sucked to the plant like leeches, the founders of which are entirely sons and relatives of large factory directors.

      Thirdly, one acquaintance of VOKhR told me that once, being in Moscow, he went to get a salary at the central office, which manages all VOKhRi on all defense lines in the country. And ofigel, it turns out that he should receive a salary three times more than he receives "on the spot." The question is, what happens to salary money sent from the Center to the region?

      Fourth, I was working and personally saw how my boss quietly calmly sold the drawings and documentation somewhere "to the left." And then he went up and bought the maybach.

      Here we have such a "model of economic development." Only mass executions will save the homeland of IMHO.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 10 September 2015 15: 11 New
        +1
        Well, that's all of our psychology ... but I can, naive and so on ...

        and everywhere Stalin laughing
        1. antoXa
          antoXa 10 September 2015 15: 49 New
          +34
          vorobey
          I also want to add noticed by many of my friends))) while there is no money - all around are thieves ...
          how bad money fell, even if not stolen, but earned from pure speculation, every year they start to buy new cars, tell friends what kind of cars and watches a real man should have and the power in the country seems to be not so bad, but if got somewhere on a suction in a warm place, so the psychology is changing, God forbid, hello at the meeting! NO ONE DOESN'T CONSIDER THEIR MONEY BAD !!!! bad ones are always only strangers money!
          Right now, my friends who lived on the speculation of goods from Europe to Russia are now in shock, the business was covered ... I had to sell my merci ... and immediately began to pay attention to what kind of watches Peskov had ... they immediately remembered how much Russia had orphans are malnourished ...
          People! The same people sit everywhere, like you and me, who are a little more lucky! This is a disease of the whole society! And it is necessary to fight it and the struggle goes on, they planted much more and give significant dates, but you can’t change the psychology of people quickly, for many this is bestiality in blood! It is necessary to raise a normal next generation, this is in my opinion the main task for today! I suggest everyone to start with themselves and their children!
          1. marlin1203
            marlin1203 10 September 2015 15: 56 New
            +8
            Great observation. "His shirt is closer to the body" - has long been noticed by the people.
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 10 September 2015 16: 10 New
              +3
              Quote: marlin1203
              Great observation. "His shirt is closer to the body" - has long been noticed by the people.


              it’s true that we are all honest and decent thieves in power ... only I don’t understand sawing; a neighbor bought a car from a huckster and a month later they came from the bank for it .. not a car or money ... I won’t say anything about new buildings ...

              Quote: antoXa
              antoXa

              Quote: marlin1203
              marlin1203


              in vain climb the peasants of the minuses ogrebet ... then I’m harlequin on the drum ... but the topic has come to life ...
          2. Warrior05
            Warrior05 10 September 2015 16: 02 New
            +7
            But it’s hard not to agree with this .... a generation with other values ​​has been brought up ... and everyone wants to fix it by laws and landings ... brains need to be corrected and children raised, so that money earned by labor, and not "buy- sell "
          3. vorobey
            vorobey 10 September 2015 16: 06 New
            +4
            Quote: antoXa
            while there is no money - thieves are all around ... how bad money rained down, even if not stolen, but earned from pure speculation, every year they start buying new cars, telling friends what kind of cars and watches a real man should have and power in the country it’s already seemingly not so bad, but if I’ve got somewhere to suck in a warm place, so the psychology is changing, God forbid, say hello to a meeting! NOBODY COUNTS YOUR MONEY BAD !!!! bad ones are always only strangers money!


            the way it is .. you get used to the good quickly .. and I want even more ..
            1. antoXa
              antoXa 10 September 2015 16: 15 New
              +2
              vorobey
              That's right, because often on the one hand they are touched, but on the other hand they frighten the proposals of some comrades to start shooting!
              Whom to shoot? Everyone who earns more than lyam per month, or by what criteria to evaluate? So this is a civil war, comrades, in our country there is a very thick layer of people who live very well, and this is far from not only officials, officials themselves do not earn such money, they are given it by a business that has long grown together with the state.
              In my opinion, there is one big difference only at the moment and it is fundamental, yet business works for the state or the state for business !? For example, you can bring our friends from across the ocean, there in my opinion is clearly the second option ...
              1. antoXa
                antoXa 10 September 2015 16: 34 New
                +3
                Yes, and I ask those who put a minus to write with what they disagree) You are silent)
              2. veksha50
                veksha50 10 September 2015 17: 25 New
                +3
                Quote: antoXa
                Yet business works for the state or the state for business !?



                Russia, as always, goes its own way ...

                In our country, they (power and business) peacefully coexist and are united by only one goal - to bend and rob that layer of the population, which by and large has nothing ...
                1. antoXa
                  antoXa 10 September 2015 17: 44 New
                  +5
                  veksha50
                  Sorry, but I do not agree with you. No need to talk about "us" like this almost all over the world. Power and business are a heterogeneous substance! These are different financial groups, which are different people with different goals and interests! Medvedev, Shuvalov and Dvorkovich can have completely different goals and objectives and they can represent completely different groups of people, I'm not talking about GDP, just as in ShiA and Clinton and Obama probably also represent different groups! Or maybe you want to say that Obama, Oland or Merkel care about the citizens of their countries?)))) If yes, then you apparently live in some other kind of reality ...
                  There is always only one criterion for caring for those in power and the oligarchy that has grown together with them))) and it is measured by how much this people can bend to and fro, and this criterion is different in all countries and depends primarily on how much the people are literate as far as they are ready to oppose, in fact it is always a consensus like in any business, only between the government and the people, each side wants more nishtyaks for itself and there must be a middle on which they are able to finish bending each other and agree!
          4. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 10 September 2015 16: 14 New
            +5
            Quote: antoXa
            I suggest everyone to start with themselves and their children!

            exactly...
            and finally understand what country we live in, who rules us, for what purpose people are zombified, to discard all this zombie husk
          5. veksha50
            veksha50 10 September 2015 17: 21 New
            +3
            Quote: antoXa
            bad ones are always only strangers money!



            Um ... Well said ... Poleshche Zadornova ...
        2. Das Boot
          Das Boot 10 September 2015 19: 43 New
          -1
          Quote: vorobey
          Well, that's all of our psychology ... but I can, naive and so on ...

          and everywhere Stalin laughing


          in fact, I didn’t understand a slop - what are you minus?
          strange ... really geront-nostalgants on the benches got tablets ???????
          That's all, the site disappeared ..... Well, here: "A monument to Stalin in every yard!"
          But I didn’t bring a bucket ... Sadness ... Handcuffs ... "Do you remember that Vanino-o-ort ..."
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 10 September 2015 21: 18 New
            +3
            Quote: Das Boot
            in fact, I didn’t understand a slop - what are you minus?


            I’m interested in something else ... I watch how people rethink and plus or minus in principle ... at first reflexively and then thoughtfully ... for me, minus or plus is just a sign that the comment has been read ...

            By the way, I’m not against Stalin ... this is our story and an example of effective governance of the country when we made a breakthrough ... we don’t pay the price in particular (by the way from my grandfathers I have never heard anything bad about him, too, although my first term in short term with it shook)

            something else strikes me, we all want order, but we want reincarnated Uncle Joe to bring him in our place because, in principle, nothing depends on us .. laughing and even worse, they can excommunicate or dismiss from the feeder .. laughing Go out onto the square to yell down .. sing Putin’s song ... drive away in nete to make a few revelations and critical notes - this is normal ... but we are not capable of elementary everyday feat laughing Brothers .. I adore you ..
            1. jktu66
              jktu66 11 September 2015 00: 49 New
              +3
              something else strikes me, we all want order, but we want reincarnated Uncle Joe to bring him in our place because, in principle, nothing depends on us ..
              Unfortunately you are right. WE will angrily condemn the rulers, with a litrushka in our hands, bought on a nightlight at midnight, stepping over the dog’s village at the entrance, painted with matyuk from a spray can. sad
            2. antoXa
              antoXa 11 September 2015 10: 59 New
              0
              vorobey
              And by the way, I do not mind)))), but not for that, each such person is needed at a certain point in history! And today, excuse me for nothing good, such methods of accelerating the development of the country would not have inculcated!
              I agree with you, in many respects we really just don’t want to do anything ourselves, a good example is our housing and communal services, there are many examples of struggles with management companies and other evil spirits today, but few people are ready to take care of putting things in order at home! But to blame the President who such a scoundrel cannot bring order to a country that they have been wanting to derail and tear down for centuries ... wow
      2. as150505
        as150505 10 September 2015 15: 18 New
        +9
        The same situation. A friend was in Moscow, knowing that there would be an advance went to the bank to withdraw and just ooh-eat on the card was 50 rubles. I turned to the bank, thinking that this was a mistake (the real advance at us at the Beloretsk Metallurgical Plant is the South Urals, somewhere from 000 to 5 rubles) In response, no error was said - this is an advance. It turns out a salary of about 000 rubles. But they actually get from 8 to 000 rubles in their hands. And salary cards are very tricky, they have the so-called 150 wallets. And this is not the only case, they were similar. The question arises - how can this be?
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 10 September 2015 15: 41 New
          +8
          Yeah. In ancient times (three or four years ago) instead of fifty dollars I give a taxi driver 500 by mistake. After all, he knows the address from where they called, but is silent. I give my grandmother with her sorrel by the road, 50 re, and she gives me as with 500, also by mistake. Sin cannot be returned. Maybe it's all about education?
          1. Das Boot
            Das Boot 10 September 2015 20: 04 New
            -2
            Quote: siberalt
            I give a taxi driver 500 by mistake.

            Quote: siberalt
            I give my grandmother with her sorrel by the road, 50 re, and she gives me as with 500


            The Association of Ophthalmologists thought about it and sent its recommendations to the designers of the Central Bank.
            Quote: siberalt
            Maybe it's all about education?

            the topic of raising taxi drivers and grandmothers will be revealed in the next issue of "Let them Speak."
            Watch the box.
        2. marlin1203
          marlin1203 10 September 2015 15: 58 New
          0
          What nonsense is this? What did the acquaintance not know about his second “payroll wallet”? Most likely the wife did not know! laughing
        3. one
          one 10 September 2015 18: 13 New
          +2
          Quote: as150505
          The same situation. A friend was in Moscow, knowing that there would be an advance went to the bank to withdraw and just ooh-eat on the card was 50 rubles. I turned to the bank, thinking that this was a mistake (the real advance at us at the Beloretsk Metallurgical Plant is the South Urals, somewhere from 000 to 5 rubles) In response, no error was said - this is an advance. It turns out a salary of about 000 rubles. But they actually get from 8 to 000 rubles in their hands. And salary cards are very tricky, they have the so-called 150 wallets. And this is not the only case, they were similar. The question arises - how can this be?

          do you think we are idiots?
          what "tricky" ... what "2 wallets" ...
          bullshit!
          fool
      3. Uncle
        Uncle 10 September 2015 15: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: Lumumba
        Only mass shootings will save their homeland

        Well, immediately massive. A corpses bulldozer into a ravine. Maxim Gorky argued in the same way, that people in Russia, that sand and soon this sand will be scooped up. But no, scooped out, dying out little by little.
        1. sherp2015
          sherp2015 10 September 2015 16: 56 New
          0
          Quote: Uncle
          Well, immediately massive. A corpses bulldozer into a ravine. That's the same Maxim Gorky argued that the people of Russia, that the sand ...


          So if I’m not mistaken, Gorky kept terrorists in his apartment who set up a bomb production workshop in his house ...

          And about dying ... Yes! Someone really wants to ...
      4. Temples
        Temples 10 September 2015 15: 27 New
        +12
        More articles like these!

        It's time to think about your country.
        Talk about how we live and what we leave for our children.
        We are constantly distracted by Ukraine, Ishil and other world mess.
        Meanwhile, liberal bureaucrats continue to drown the country under their noses.
      5. Will
        Will 10 September 2015 15: 44 New
        +2
        The worst part is that stealing today is "more profitable" to work honestly. Until this changes, the collapse will continue. The United States "wins" due to the fact that everyone is allowed what is forbidden at home. The weak point of their politics - allowing others to rot, cannot defend themselves anyway, because it’s a miracle in the same closed space.
        1. marlin1203
          marlin1203 10 September 2015 15: 59 New
          +1
          Stealing is always more profitable than working honestly! Your conclusions are strange.
      6. quote
        quote 10 September 2015 15: 57 New
        0
        Quote: Lumumba
        And then he went up and bought a maybach.

        Please, the region, the region, the Maybach district is worth checking. I wonder how many Maybachs are in your village?

        Something I “see”, the State Department, has allocated a denyushku to “happiness!” Articles “whiny popёrli”! (Messy! Angry!)
      7. one
        one 10 September 2015 17: 58 New
        0
        Quote: Lumumba


        Here we have such a "model of economic development." Only mass executions will save the homeland of IMHO.

        is it by whom and by whom - en masse, then?
        belay
        Also, for your information,
        WOHR is an departmental security.
        which means no central apparatus
        "which is in charge of all the VOKhRami on all the defense lines of the country.
        - it simply cannot be !!!
        lol
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 10 September 2015 22: 34 New
          +1
          Quote: Someone
          besides, for your information, VOKHR is an DEPARTMENTAL security. and therefore there is no central apparatus "which manages all VOKhRami on all defense lines in the country." - it simply cannot be !!!


          besides, for your information, WOHR is Paramilitary security, which can be either departmental or extra-departmental!
          Departmental protection exists in the form of federal state enterprises or state institutions (Ministry of Finance of Russia), which are commercial organizations and are managed by ministries, agencies or organizations (Rosatom), as defined by federal law. In state militarized organizations (Ministry of Defense of Russia, EMERCOM of Russia) departmental security is organizationally included in the composition of military units and structural organizations.
          private security - the staff of the VOHR unit is included in the structure of the private security service the police.
      8. Das Boot
        Das Boot 10 September 2015 18: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Lumumba
        I also worked at the factory.

        What a chic comment ... In the ranking of fucked stories so far, No. 1

        Quote: Lumumba
        acquaintance of VOHR told

        Quote: Lumumba
        machines are exported, sold to private owners

        Quote: Lumumba
        my boss was quietly selling drawings

        Quote: Lumumba
        and bought maybach


        Yes, here is the material for the script for the series! In the Hollywood hills of the scriptwriters, total constipation and depression will happen, I think ...
    5. Bedrovich
      Bedrovich 10 September 2015 15: 25 New
      +8
      I completely agree with you. I went through a lot of enterprises from my city (Togliatti) and everywhere the picture is the same - sad, but in fact mostly directors and managers from Moscow. The city is in decline (they didn’t even put a Christmas tree on the New Year, and they didn’t clean the roads), they wrote a letter to the president, so this letter was for some reason redirected to the city administration.
      All the problems that have arisen are the result of an 8-year disregard for the city.
      Many say that it was better to live with thieves, then everyone was responsible for their words and the senior and younger and the mayor with the director of the VAZ. For me, so until 2008, the only problem of the city was the road. Now they started repairing roads, they are getting ready for the 2018 World Cup, but the rest is in decline.
      1. Mitrich76
        Mitrich76 10 September 2015 17: 43 New
        +4
        Greetings to my colleague and fellow countryman. Slightly develop a theme. The city is in decline just because of the fact that it was corny to plunder and plunder what remained after the Union. The industrial zones stopped working, there is no production, and the enterprises are devastated by the owners and act as warehouse (former production) and office (former administrative) buildings.
        And everything happened on the background of the fact that money comes to the city at the expense of the automobile plant, more or less stable salaries. Now the plant is working in favor of the Renault-Nissan concern, including stopping the production of VAZ models when overstocking dealers with gas cars, reducing the number of workers in workshops and departments with the same composition and top management revenues.
        And everything that can bring real profit invariably falls into Moscow hands, while all the juices from production continue to be sucked in place. And until the government’s approach to such a situation changes, the money will continue to be pulled from the whole country and, apparently, will go offshore to private accounts, without bringing any benefit to the state or the people.
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 10 September 2015 18: 23 New
          -1
          Quote: Bedrovich
          (Tolyatti)

          Quote: Mitrich76
          The city is in decline just because of the fact that it was corny stolen and plundered

          really? maybe not the main reason, after all? About the possible problems of single-industry towns timidly wrote back in the 40-50s and beyond.
          1. Mitrich76
            Mitrich76 11 September 2015 10: 39 New
            0
            Unfortunately, the matter is in pulling away. Tolyatti is NOT a single-industry town, only one district of the city was built along with a car factory and can be equated to single-industry towns. It’s just that while AvtoVAZ mobilized many "entrepreneurs" in money, becoming owners of small enterprises (as an example, a knitting factory, a fish factory, a bunch of various scientific research institutes with their own production complex), not wanting to invest in manufacturing anything and support workers, devastated the enterprises, making them leased space. Thus, they switched from production to service and resale of other people's goods.
            At the plant itself, the new co-owner bought the Kalina platform, the Datsun is produced on its basis, Largus is made from their adapted designs, and Almeria is made. But the quality of VAZ cars is brought to an insufficiently high level, all attempts to increase are blocked up to the reduction of excessively zealous innovators, but the price is too high in order to reduce the competitiveness of OUR cars. And what do you call it except robbery?
    6. Archon
      Archon 12 September 2015 05: 58 New
      0
      it’s not for nothing that the people say: “at work you are not a guest - take away at least a nail!”
    7. derik1970
      derik1970 12 September 2015 23: 04 New
      0
      I agree with you, they steal and will steal even despite the fact that the country's economy is collapsing ... the directors of the water utility of our city were tried for theft and punished with a fine of 300 thousand and all cases ... court, FSB investigation is all for show in essence it turns out, and the company has debts of tens of millions ... by the way, the former director is also a local deputy, the secretary of the Political Council of the local branch of the United Russia party is still ... he has several land plots, his own rest house, several shops were built at the expense of an enterprise in the city ... I can’t even believe that someone will stop this looting of the state’s plunder ... officials like the mafia, the entire leadership of the district’s city, etc. relatives, friends, etc ... they wanted to hand over the water channel to private hands, and it will actually happen now, since the water channel takes up our water channel, and these are the former heads of the local management of TNK BP (former organizations - Buzulukneft, Orenburgneft). .. and you don’t have to expect anything good from the Rosvodokanal ... the prosecutor’s office and the local court were transferred to the dispensary building, apparently the prosecutor’s office doesn’t need to treat people more ... the police in general, closed behind bars and metal doors like in a bunker, you will find, and you won’t prove anything, everything was bought by those who have money ... the village of Kushchevskaya in miniature .... who cares http://buzuluk56.blogspot.ru/2011_06_05_archive.html
    8. Lenin
      Lenin 13 September 2015 09: 01 New
      0
      How nothing? If everyone has stolen, there is a crisis in the economy, one option remains - nationalization and restoration at the expense of the people. I do not understand only one point. Why, when the USSR and its powerful industry were destroyed, did some speak of the fallacy of this decision? And now, when everyone was killed, the people suddenly began to wake up and publications went to the media ...
  2. vorobey
    vorobey 10 September 2015 14: 54 New
    +5
    and what’s new ... either either .. I even have hedgehogs in the bushes whispering about it ..
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 10 September 2015 15: 15 New
      +8
      Quote: vorobey
      I even have hedgehogs in the bushes whispering about it ..

      What are you taking? Give me the recipe, otherwise the whispering squirrels have already fussed me! wassat
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 10 September 2015 15: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        What are you taking? Give me the recipe, otherwise the whispering squirrels have already fussed me!


        it’s necessary to wave the recipe ... they say the squirrels are also cool .. wassat
        1. Renat
          Renat 10 September 2015 15: 33 New
          +7
          I live alone. It sits on the shoulder and spreads its tail. True more often on weekends.
          1. marlin1203
            marlin1203 10 September 2015 16: 01 New
            +1
            The main thing is that she does not settle on the shoulder on an ongoing basis! laughing
        2. Das Boot
          Das Boot 10 September 2015 18: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: vorobey
          it’s necessary to wave the recipe ... they say the squirrels are also cool ..

          you guys be careful there. Ezhatina and squirrel - our everything for this winter ...
    2. marlin1203
      marlin1203 10 September 2015 16: 00 New
      +4
      Stop eavesdropping on the hedgehogs! laughing
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 10 September 2015 16: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: marlin1203
        Stop eavesdropping on the hedgehogs! laughing


        and the choice is not great ... either hedgehogs or downy yololikie from Europe or from non-summer ... better than hedgehogs ..
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    3. fiodor
      fiodor 10 September 2015 17: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: vorobey
      and what’s new ... either either .. I even have hedgehogs in the bushes whispering about it ..

      Lucky, you still have hedgehogs. And today I’m the last in the oven to bake for the day, I don’t know how to continue living, though the hell is still there, but her mother’s salt ended wassat laughing
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 10 September 2015 17: 27 New
        +3
        Quote: fiodor
        Quote: vorobey
        and what’s new ... either either .. I even have hedgehogs in the bushes whispering about it ..

        Lucky, you still have hedgehogs. And today I’m the last in the oven to bake for the day, I don’t know how to continue living, though the hell is still there, but her mother’s salt ended wassat laughing


        so it’s a mouse now moving from the fields .. it’s not even a bad hedgehog in the house ... really, you have to sweat ... fast bastards .. laughing
      2. Das Boot
        Das Boot 10 September 2015 19: 04 New
        0
        Quote: fiodor
        Lucky, you still have hedgehogs.

        Kamrad, you just have to see the gopher.
        It is necessary to catch and preserve the gopher seen until the arrival.
        Train and you will be full.
        1. fiodor
          fiodor 10 September 2015 20: 48 New
          +3
          Quote: Das Boot
          Kamrad, you just have to see the gopher.
          It is necessary to catch and preserve the gopher seen until the arrival.
          Train and you will be full.

          laughing+ I don’t observe something of gophers yet, I see a parish, but not that one (I drank vodka on the occasion of my birthday, I ate it with pickled oils, but I had mushrooms laughing ) or animals hibernated already.
          In general, now I’ll add what I need to snack,
          And I’ll catch one tochnik and put out for the winter! laughing
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 10 September 2015 21: 22 New
            +4
            Quote: fiodor
            I drank vodka


            Tikhushnik ... no to cover the clearing for everyone ... who doesn’t like to plump on a freebie ...

            Seriously birthday?
            1. fiodor
              fiodor 10 September 2015 21: 38 New
              +2
              Quote: vorobey
              Seriously birthday?

              I’m not used to lying, but about the meadow, it’s so problematic, since the last hedgehog has already been baked and now I’m eating picking needles laughing but with booze it’s not so hot it would be enough for myself, 0,5 and truncated modestly generally excuse this is not an anniversary. It will be an anniversary and money, I will lay out all the pictures here with bubbles and appetizer, in short I will cover the meadow. laughing
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 10 September 2015 21: 54 New
                +3
                Quote: fiodor
                It will be an anniversary and money, I will lay out all the pictures here with bubbles and appetizer, in short I will cover the clearing


                Well then, happy birthday ... and so that not only hedgehogs but also bacon in the house does not translate. drinks

                Quote: fiodor
                hedgehog already baked and now picking out needles I eat


                laughter laughter and I ate a hedgehog ... my mother told ... I thought I wouldn’t get rid of pneumonia ... I was three years old ... so the old man specially tracked the hedgehog .. I caught and cooked ... I used to heat up the fat (I I wouldn’t believe it if it weren’t for my mother to tell) .. says three days later he started to recover right away .. here’s your hedgehogs .. laughing
                1. fiodor
                  fiodor 10 September 2015 22: 19 New
                  +2
                  Quote: vorobey
                  here you have hedgehogs ..

                  Well, I don’t know about hedgehogs, there’s just nothing 100 grams in them, and there’s a dessert spoon from them, but badger il or bear fat say miracles work. the badger himself was treated in childhood as a truth from another and also the mother was somewhere to fuck. Thanks for the compliments. nicely. drinks
  3. Kolka82
    Kolka82 10 September 2015 14: 56 New
    +12
    Good article! In principle, everything that is written in it is voiced in the title - briefly and uncompromisingly! A sort of picture Repin "sailed" ...
  4. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 10 September 2015 14: 58 New
    +18
    Somehow it's all really in black. But this, as they say, who sees what.
    But in connection with various models of the economy, I have a question.
    Russia has refused membership in OPEC, because, as Sechin explained, the oil industry has long been privatized and the state cannot influence oil production and pricing. And budget revenues and the national currency exchange rate depend on oil prices. As they always tell us, oil is the main thing.
    So, it turns out that according to Sechin, several “privatizers” of the oil industry are at the head of state economic policy? Then why all the talk about economic models?
    1. Temples
      Temples 10 September 2015 15: 34 New
      +3
      And you say the article in black light.

      Then he painted an even darker picture.

      That is how we live(((
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 10 September 2015 15: 41 New
      +7
      Quote: Stock Officer
      Then why all the talk about economic models?

      so that a layman with noodles on his ears walks and screams as he hurts.
    3. Altona
      Altona 10 September 2015 16: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Stock Officer
      So, it turns out that according to Sechin, several “privatizers” of the oil industry are at the head of state economic policy? Then why all the talk about economic models?

      ------------------------------
      So, little has changed since Yeltsin’s time ... The oligarchs were simply removed from power, but not from property ... Banks are in the hands of speculators, the real sector is with "effective" owners ... What else do you want?
    4. Das Boot
      Das Boot 10 September 2015 20: 32 New
      0
      Quote: Stock Officer
      Then why all the talk about economic models?

      Yes, "bye again .." (c) Who is talking about a new economic modeling? Do you consider the quiet interruption of the electronic power supply unit as a new economic assembly ?? Or new young reformers who also offer a Qatari example of five-year plans on their blue eyes? Enough already, played out. State regulation can still, IMHO, improve things. To friends, the GDP should have been transferred from the Maybach + Maybach sufferes in a more modest configuration. Say, without a football carrier for $ 60B and other things. And to take away the fuck from them this illusion that they are “solvers” and hold their finger in the rectum of this g .. fucking power.
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  6. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 10 September 2015 14: 59 New
    +20
    Talking about a forecast for several years ahead does not make sense. Because either we will move on to a development model, and this will be a qualitatively new reality that we cannot imagine now.

    The fact that the Soviet inheritance was almost eaten up, and 2-3 years remained is not news. The question is different. At whose expense will the further functioning of the economy be. There are only two options. Either degrease the oligarchs and the like, or crush the people. The government seems to be inclined to the option that it is better to take from the people. And he is already taking certain steps in this direction.
    However, Delyagin writes correctly
    it will be a qualitatively new reality that we cannot imagine now.
    1. one
      one 10 September 2015 18: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: Aleksandr1959
      There are only two options. Either degrease the oligarchs and the like, or crush the people. The government seems to be inclined to the option that it is better to take from the people. And he is already taking certain steps in this direction.

      one of these steps is
      since November, singers, with a car with a carrying capacity of over 12 tons, will unfasten 3,9 r per kilometer
      (this, if the mileage of a running machine, per year 50-75 t.km,
      200-300 tyrov comes out ...)
      before that everyone was forced to put tachographs,
      this is another 60-70t.r from the car.
      almost everything in the country is busy with motor vehicles.
      the question is - who will ultimately pay for it?
      The answer is the end user!
      that is, we are with you, all who eat something, wear, live in something, etc.
      all! and pensioners, and workers, peasants, hucksters, office workers, the unemployed, etc.
      remember a fairy tale?
      "That bear will bow, may your back bend!"
      sort of like they don’t take us, you can sit on the train .. exactly,
      Yes, only drag from our wallet.
      what
      and how to understand this?
      our road tax is also crammed into the cost of fuel,
      6-7r per liter (if memory serves me right),
      and pay a piece of paper to the tax.
      now triple (!) taxation!
      and these are just flowers
      the berries are waiting ahead ...
      yes
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 10 September 2015 20: 59 New
        -4
        Quote: Someone
        one of these steps is
        since November, singers, with a car with a carrying capacity of over 12 tons, will unfasten 3,9 r per kilometer
        (this, if the mileage of a running machine, per year 50-75 t.km,
        200-300 tyrov comes out ...)
        before that everyone was forced to put tachographs,
        this is another 60-70t.r from the car.
        almost everything in the country is busy with motor vehicles.
        the question is - who will ultimately pay for it?
        The answer is the end user!


        enough to drive, my dear. To explain the increase in tariffs, transportation always has a reason. It is not necessary only to expose transportation as victims of a systemic crisis, corruption and other fluctuations in prices for winter diesel fuel. And about tachographs - do not tell.
  7. Flinky
    Flinky 10 September 2015 14: 59 New
    +15
    For development, you need to seriously tighten the Criminal Code. In particular, to return, as a punishment, the complete confiscation of property from the stolen person, without any regard to "ownership", including property of a foreign person. Stole in large / especially large amounts - confiscation, while stole from the state defense order - life-long and confiscation.
    1. Beaver
      Beaver 10 September 2015 15: 17 New
      +3
      Better compulsory public utility work until the full compensation of the stolen in view of inflation. hi
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 10 September 2015 19: 34 New
        +5
        Quote: Castor
        Better compulsory public utility work until the full compensation of the stolen in view of inflation. hi

        Will not work. People do not live that much. Well, if only in the next world they organize socially useful work in favor of the robbed.
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 10 September 2015 15: 22 New
      +12
      Quote: Flinky
      For development, you need to seriously tighten the Criminal Code



      This is all talk ... Even what is available in the modern Criminal Code and in general legislation would be quite enough for a real fight against corruption, which is the main cause of all our troubles ...

      However, laws do not work !!!

      And first of all, the main constitutional postulate does not work, which states that before the law, ALL are equal ...
    3. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 10 September 2015 16: 52 New
      +1
      The Criminal Code article on the confiscation of the stolen rests against the wall while trying to consider it in our dear Duma, and our "Guarantor" for some reason is against confiscation. In my opinion there will be confiscation - there will be no point in stealing!
      1. Aleksandr1959
        Aleksandr1959 10 September 2015 22: 48 New
        +2
        In our dear Duma, the amendments to the Code of Criminal Procedure, about counting the term of house arrest as half of the actual detention, also hung. Now comes one to one. And notice how it freezes in time. wassat
    4. sherp2015
      sherp2015 10 September 2015 17: 02 New
      +5
      Quote: Flinky
      For development, you need to seriously tighten the Criminal Code.




      We must return to socialism.
  8. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 10 September 2015 15: 01 New
    +11
    The causes of the crisis are not sanctions, but the policies of Russian liberals, ...
    So this is a crisis of the entire model of the Russian economy built in the 90s. Roughly speaking, there’s nothing more to steal, and the model begins to choke,

    This was to be expected during the reign of such Pillars of the ECONOMY as MEDVEDEV ... DVORKOVICH ... SHUVALOV ... ULYUKAYEV ... the President of the National Bank ... Their guideline is a free uncontrolled market of the worst spill of the western type. But such a policy makes it possible to quickly accumulate initial capital ... primarily due to PRIVATIZATION ... which is more familiar and clear to us by the term - UNPUNISHED THEFT OF STATE PROPERTY ...
    Say there’s nothing to steal already? MISTAKE !!! The Accounts Chamber refuted this completely by checking Anatoly CHUBAIS NANO-CONCERN !!! His fantasies of cutting public finances have no limits !!!
    But the prosecutor’s office of the Russian Federation has no imagination ... and therefore, well, they can’t appreciate the new exploits of the “red and evil genius of Russia” ....
  9. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 10 September 2015 15: 02 New
    +1
    The author of the article is a alarmist, already choking .....
    But we can imagine this, especially if we look at Ukraine.

    In the 90s they looked and it was worse ... Now we are getting out, here is the howl standing on the whole planet! I would say more we occupy a leading position in world politics ..
    from the looting model we will move on to destruction

    We will destroy it and possibly with blood ... It doesn’t work out differently!
    "We are ours, we will build a new world .." Again, actually alas, ghouls and bloodsuckers divorced a lot ..
    Well, in Russia everything is as usual!
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 10 September 2015 15: 25 New
      +7
      Quote: MIKHAN
      We will destroy it and possibly with blood ... It doesn’t work out differently!



      Hmm ... But otherwise you can’t nationalize the economy back ...

      And without a nationalized economy (I mean its main industries that influence state sovereignty), you can’t do it, nor can you achieve even a small fraction of what Russia was able to achieve under the USSR ...
    2. Uncle
      Uncle 10 September 2015 15: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: MIKHAN
      "We are ours, we will build a new world .."

      Who was nobody, that became nothing .....
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 10 September 2015 15: 45 New
      +4
      Quote: MIKHAN
      The author of the article, the alarmist, is already drowning

      Mikhan, and climb onto the site of Delyagin, and read all his thoughts. Little positive, I agree, but the truth is not always pleasant. hi
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 10 September 2015 15: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: MIKHAN
        The author of the article, the alarmist, is already drowning

        Mikhan, and climb onto the site of Delyagin, and read all his thoughts. Little positive, I agree, but the truth is not always pleasant. hi

        I agree! But the truth is different, but the essence is one we need to get out .. A nagging tired already .. hi Nevertheless, there is not a bad one in Russia! It is necessary to break through, under the machine guns of the Western (and our liberal) media, and in the bayonet!
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 10 September 2015 16: 04 New
          +2
          Quote: MIKHAN
          ! But the truth is different, but the essence is one we need to get out .. And nagging tired already.

          Whining tired, you're right. But it’s better to be an informed pessimist than an optimist in pink glasses! drinks And I would like more positive.
      2. Asadullah
        Asadullah 10 September 2015 16: 46 New
        -2
        but the truth is not always pleasant


        Truth? What truth is this?


        The causes of the crisis are not sanctions, but the policy of Russian liberals, borrowed from the 90s. I remind you that both the devaluation of the ruble and the stampede of capital began in January, 2014, when there was no talk of sanctions, and oil was worth more than $ 105 per barrel.


        Stampede? Complete lies. The second point, Delyagin against the liberals? So why the hell is he worried about the collapse of the liberal economy, because attracting foreign capital is the cornerstone of liberals! What kind of economy does this “economist” advocate a space genius prize for? Where the pancake in the world, is there any other model of the economy ??? Do you moan on leaking water and a strong hand? I, too, but only in order to send such “economists” to wave to the taiga with a wave, so that people don’t get offended by the exhausts of intestinal gases ....
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 10 September 2015 17: 16 New
          +4
          Quote: Asadullah
          Stampede? Complete lies.

          And then how do you explain the outflow of capital? And how do you explain that even the companies from the "made by us" website are registered in offshore? Vova seemed to be talking about the need to withdraw capital from offshore, and so what?
          Quote: Asadullah
          I, too, but only in order to send such “economists” to wave to the taiga with a kyle, so that people don’t get offended by exhausts of intestinal gases ..

          Are you for the economy a la Brazil? I would send Ulyukaev to the taiga, and Delyagin to his place, but with the caveat: you won’t do what you promised - after Ulyukaev!
  10. atk44849
    atk44849 10 September 2015 15: 06 New
    +10
    Quote: Ilya77
    They steal from the terrible, I work at the factory - I am horrified. In the mid-2000s there was a boss who restored partly everything, the plant flourished. Now they again plundered in a new way, without looking at anyone, just to fill their pocket and dump it. And I know that this is almost everywhere, they steal, regardless of whether you are a liberal, a communist or a monarchist, or someone else. The state began to invest in the defense industry - immediately leeches appeared which were loot, workers and engineers both ran and ran. They began to invest in import substitution - and here the same picture. I don’t know how this will end, most likely nothing.

    example,! Repair of the internal combustion engine - one and a half million rubles. a new installation costs eight hundred thousand rubles. where is the logic? All the logic in the loot bosses !!!
  11. Indifferent
    Indifferent 10 September 2015 15: 07 New
    +14
    Our guarantor of the Constitution constantly complains about the economic bloc of the government. They say that they are always late in making important decisions in the economy. The Prime Minister organizes economic forums every month in different parts of the country (by the way for our money) and is waiting for investments. All these forums end with a slight zilch. He still does not know how to work in a serious state. All functions - collect and share. Collected a little, then there is nothing to share. Hydrocarbons around the head.
    So I have a thought, and is not our Guarantor late in making decisions on the government?
    "The crossing is too long and deep. The horses are clearly not elongated. We need horses more durable" !!!
    1. Aleksandr1959
      Aleksandr1959 10 September 2015 15: 15 New
      +12
      Investments are and will be. An example is the Kaluga province. The question is different. Are these foreign investments badly needed? They do not bring new technologies. Recently, foreign automakers asked to extend their period of coarse assembly.
      Salaries are now almost at the level of Chinese.
      It looked good in the late 90s-early XNUMXs. As for now ... I doubt it very much.
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 10 September 2015 15: 20 New
      +12
      Quote: indifferent
      So I have a thought, and is not our Guarantor late in making decisions on the government?

      Good thought comes afterwards.
      Quote: indifferent
      Need more endurance horses !!!

      The guarantor has no others and never will be. By the way, these horses at the crossing will drown the luggage and riders, and they themselves will swim somewhere off the foggy or azure shores. A guarantor will explode there.
      1. the polar
        the polar 10 September 2015 15: 55 New
        +8
        The guarantor sits in a galley, so as not to miss the moment of departure and not to be alone with the people.
    3. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 10 September 2015 16: 56 New
      +2
      And our chairman of the government can no longer be allowed to approach this government closer than 100 kilometers!
      1. sherp2015
        sherp2015 10 September 2015 17: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: Saratoga833
        And our chairman of the government can no longer be allowed to approach this government closer than 100 kilometers!



        So they, all these members of his government should not be allowed, not a single one, but for some reason everything is in the classrooms ...
  12. Beaver
    Beaver 10 September 2015 15: 08 New
    +6
    ... our insiders need to well celebrate the New Year, and with the help of the fluctuation of the ruble, they will provide themselves with super-high profits.


    That is, something else can be stolen. Author, do I understand correctly?
    A muddy article, to be honest. Like, the "elites" will become conscious and begin to develop the real sector of the economy when there is nothing to steal or steal. I do not believe! Pigs do not know satiety. And the pig will find dirt.
  13. 34 region
    34 region 10 September 2015 15: 09 New
    +11
    If everything is private, what could be planning? If you plan, then you need to start with energy. The energy sector needs personnel, steel, cement, machinery. And this is further planning. For any production, communications are needed: roads, water, sewage, electricity. Put the same substation. How much energy will it suck from the system? Will her system pull? I can’t imagine how you can work without planning.
    1. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 10 September 2015 15: 11 New
      +9
      If everything is private, what can be planning?
      It’s impossible even for private traders to live without planning; those who don’t know how to plan, they will burn out. wink
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    3. Andrey NM
      Andrey NM 10 September 2015 16: 16 New
      +12
      About energy. In Siberia, a whole cascade of hydroelectric power stations. Their capacities are underloaded. China receives electricity cheaper than it is sold domestically. In general, I am killed by such a thing as a planned price increase in the energy sector and in the housing and communal services. Just planned, without cost justification, just like that, I just want to. What development is there?
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 10 September 2015 16: 26 New
        +4
        My dear man, it’s not you alone who cares lack of travel. Simply thein whose power you can make the necessary decisions, she don't bother. what
      2. ava09
        ava09 10 September 2015 16: 49 New
        +3
        You need to understand that for the conquistadors there are no domestic and foreign markets, but there are markets in which there is an opportunity to grab more.
    4. yuriy55
      yuriy55 10 September 2015 16: 30 New
      +3
      I can’t imagine how you can work without planning.

      Imagine, you can. Otherwise, how to explain such a quick and "competent transition" to the annual reduction of the country's budget balance? what
    5. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 10 September 2015 17: 09 New
      +7
      To plan, you need to immediately nationalize energy, transport, the Central Bank, withdraw all assets from the United States along with gold reserves, communications. This is, after all, elementalism, verified by V.I. Lenin and it worked! Only I, probably, will not wait for this while Putin leads us!
      1. alfa19638
        alfa19638 10 September 2015 21: 40 New
        +1
        I agree with you! It is not possible to conquer Russia, but to break it up quietly and peacefully - simply, we meekly left the covenants. And in Stalin, this is the collapse of a proud and powerful country, this is a great tragedy of a great nation!
  14. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 10 September 2015 15: 10 New
    +3
    History is cyclical and we are preparing for this and everything will be tougher! Genes to hell do not give rest and demand revenge .. FOR EVERYTHING AND FOR EVERYONE!
    1. loki-reyngard
      loki-reyngard 10 September 2015 20: 32 New
      0
      Something is not clear what the Germans have to do with our domestic thieves, by the way, Solzhenitsyn wrote, from the words of a juvenile thief: "it was impossible to steal under the Germans, they shot for it" - why not a recipe?
  15. VP
    VP 10 September 2015 15: 11 New
    -7
    How many populists got divorced ...
  16. veksha50
    veksha50 10 September 2015 15: 13 New
    +9
    "Talking about a forecast for several years ahead does not make sense. Because or we will move on to a development model, and this will be a qualitatively new reality that we cannot imagine now. Or from the looting model, we will move on to destruction. And this is also a qualitatively different reality. But we can imagine this, especially if we look at Ukraine "....

    That is, OR - OR ....

    The experience gained after the lightning collapse of the USSR in the following years dictates only one thing: we need the first option, development .... And we ourselves are constantly talking about it in VO ... There is no other way ...
  17. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 10 September 2015 15: 24 New
    +4
    Interesting article, thanks Michael.
  18. Platon Mironov
    Platon Mironov 10 September 2015 15: 31 New
    +11
    From the work May Day of the Revolutionary Proletariat (1913): “For the revolution, it is not enough that the lower classes do not want to live as before. It also requires that the tops cannot manage and manage, as before. ” V.I. Lenin (1870-1924).
  19. Old warrior
    Old warrior 10 September 2015 15: 31 New
    +2
    Interesting article....
    But, whatever one may say: -Nothing can be stolen on the earth !!!
    You can only move from place to place. laughing
    1. AdekvatNICK
      AdekvatNICK 10 September 2015 15: 59 New
      +6
      Serdyukov and Vasilyeva probably answered the prosecutor’s office .... we didn’t steal, we moved. And they don’t put him in charge of moving.
  20. bubla5
    bubla5 10 September 2015 15: 49 New
    +9
    A barrel was worth 100 bucks, the exchange rate of 29 rubles was received for 2900 rubles; the treasury was full, now the barrel is 50, the rate of 69 rubles profit in the country is 3450 rubles and is not enough, but if you get rid of the dollar, the budget will have a full ass, and this power will be in London
    1. Old warrior
      Old warrior 10 September 2015 15: 53 New
      +11
      So she lives there for a long time! And here it is ... Just steers winked
      1. the polar
        the polar 10 September 2015 16: 04 New
        +7
        Quote: Old Warrior
        So she lives there for a long time! And here it is ... Just steers winked

        Yes, it does not steer, but it steals, lives there
  21. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 10 September 2015 15: 58 New
    +4
    here about the shootings I read the comments you need to enter ... in such a thoroughly corrupt country, the introduction of executions will lead to the fact that there will be innocents for grandmas to the wall.
  22. JonnyT
    JonnyT 10 September 2015 16: 05 New
    +10
    For some reason, any articles about the future of the Russian economy and industry make me sad and disappointed. Quite a lot of time has passed, and the change for the better is minimal, the overall development dynamics is negative.
    There is a pathetic attempt by a private trader to do something, build, develop. But the state does not develop or build anything, with the exception of areas that influence the protection of loved ones in power.
    We have a rotten system. We live according to the covenants of those who destroyed the union. Our laws are written under the dictation of our outspoken enemies. Some elements in the government deliberately sabotage the development of sectors of the economy. Any of us who become part of this rotten system cannot break it. Power steals from the people, people try to steal power. Everywhere at all state. the philosophy of flourishing in factories is "at work you are not a guest, take away even a nail." Some kind of moronic laws are being introduced, reforms, of which there is more harm than good.
    No one sets the tasks to develop, develop, build, do. Because they only buy and sell.
    Of course there are exceptions.
    The system itself is rotten, it must either be destroyed and a new one built, or radically rebuilt.
  23. Breard
    Breard 10 September 2015 16: 11 New
    +14
    Oh right
  24. yuriy55
    yuriy55 10 September 2015 16: 15 New
    +7
    If in Soviet times, straining brains and putting hands, they managed to figure out 5-7-year plans for accounts and felixes, and besides, they managed to exaggerate these plans, but now, in the age of computers and PCs, you can accomplish something like that. Only, for some reason, not the best thing is happening. Here, most likely, something with hands.
    And at the Far Eastern Economic Forum, an elderly red-haired man whose name is associated with the voucherization of the whole country did not catch anyone's eye? What does this rat continue to do there? Still not squandered and resold? And with whose, interestingly, this Tolik is working tirelessly in the national economy?
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 10 September 2015 16: 42 New
      +8
      And with whose, interestingly, this Tolik is working tirelessly in the national economy?

      One team
      1. GraveBezKresta
        GraveBezKresta 10 September 2015 19: 36 New
        +4
        Yes, after this video there is nothing to comment on. There were petty currency swindlers, they became megavors and megacorruptions. The boys did everything (I hope so far).
    2. anip
      anip 11 September 2015 10: 08 New
      0
      Quote: yuriy55
      And with whose, interestingly, this Tolik is working tirelessly in the national economy?

      Do you know this surname Putin and the post of president?
  25. eyed
    eyed 10 September 2015 16: 24 New
    +4
    What are you, citizens, shooting and planting and confiscating ... Ah, sorry to ask who will do it? Where are these eagles and falcons, honest and incorruptible. Maybe someone knows, so let him share knowledge ....
    Here it seems to me that they will steal even more, since the "wealth" of the people ends. In Europe, only those who have considerable money will live - and we know all of them in vain, what's the use of current?
    And the "guarantor" already jumped over with a stool and an "artist". And rightly so, they don’t give homies, you look and come in handy.
  26. akula
    akula 10 September 2015 16: 27 New
    +6
    Quote: antoXa
    but you won’t change the psychology of people quickly, for many this is bestiality in the blood! It is necessary to raise a normal next generation, this is in my opinion the main task for today! I suggest everyone to start with themselves and their children!

    Fish, as you know, rots from the head, if there are such tops, then the bottoms too. Who then will solve the task of raising the younger generation? In general, with horror you think that all these will lead the country to complete ruin, and not to economic development. that personally, I’m a decent person and raised decent children, nothing will change. It’s necessary to change the psychology of society, and how it is done from history is well known in Russia. Until a couple are shot, others will not be scratched.
  27. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 10 September 2015 16: 28 New
    +2
    The article is a plus, but the point is. Who is listening to them. Not until reading, it is necessary to steal yet, but to the people in the ears sweet words to sing. And suddenly wakes up.
  28. verb
    verb 10 September 2015 16: 35 New
    0
    Just an hour ago, I wrote to LifeNews (but the so-called moderators didn’t miss a comment) Seven ministries directly subordinate to the president (and these are mainly power) work, but 17 (!) Subordinates to the prime minister are only listed as ministries . Ministry of Culture, Ministry of Sports, Ministry of Economic Development (it is better to call it Ministry of Economic Fall), Ministry of Health, Ministry of Agriculture ... Continue to list? This is Medvedev’s patrimony and prerogative. And the liberals dug in there, at the head you yourself know with whom. And until they are dispersed, the economy will not rise.
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 10 September 2015 21: 39 New
      +1
      It’s time to clarify the names of the ministries, the Ministry of Culture, the Ministry of Economy, the Ministry of Health, the Ministry of Agriculture, etc.
  29. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 10 September 2015 16: 38 New
    +5
    .In corruption, Russia is in 136th place. We are even worse than in Pakistan.
  30. ava09
    ava09 10 September 2015 16: 45 New
    +3
    I respect Delyagin as a specialist in economics, but in the meanings he is confused: (C) The causes of the crisis are not sanctions, but the policies of Russian liberals

    Those who continue the robbery of the country, which began in the open at the turn of the 90s, first of all the Thieves, the second FIFTH COLUMN, and who they are in the third - I personally do not care much ...
  31. Alex66
    Alex66 10 September 2015 17: 10 New
    +5
    Is Putin so helpless? It is often written that it is necessary to amend the constitution, expand powers, and hold a referendum. And now, who is stopping him? they are like brothers with Medvedev, i.e. the government for him, the security forces for his own, probably the same. who is against it? We are told by the bureaucratic apparatus, well this is ridiculous, the silviks will quickly learn to love their homeland only tell them, then Putin is silent. And why? The problem is private property. Both Putin and Medvedev, the government, and security officials have overgrown with private property created by generations of Soviet people and they should leave it like a hunt. They don’t know how to quit everything and save Russia, or perish together, but don’t give up their (stolen) one.
    I'm waiting for what they choose.
  32. loaln
    loaln 10 September 2015 17: 32 New
    +1
    It is written a little, but in the case.
    I'll try to reflect and I.

    "The plan was not law, but merely a forecast, serving as a guide for the economy, business and government officials.
    But when the state refuses to give guidance to all ... "

    The whole failure of these assumptions, and with them the whole economic model, lies in the fact that both the plan and the state only rant and only about benchmarks.
    And what to do, and, moreover, the state does not take upon itself. Both entrepreneurs and enterprising citizens each understand this in their own way. And what is easiest to do when in the guidelines - a lot of good left by the descendants and forces of the state, which has become a draw. Yes, yes - in a draw. It used to be popular, but after the counter-revolution it became NOTHING.
  33. loaln
    loaln 10 September 2015 17: 32 New
    +2
    Read more.

    There is only one thing left - to appropriate all the good, that is, to BREAK. A lot of good. The looting process is long. At the output, what do we have? A bunch of thieves and ZERO manufacturers of new good.
    And this process will not end until the state "GIVES GUIDES". Guidance can only be given to the level of theft. It is still possible (on your sixth), more - no, no. And then the fight against corruption!

    We could continue to speculate, but I do not want to. People have already lost the habit of reading and thinking. Ah, here's something to steal ...
    Probably, from this sensation, the author quickly turned off his reasoning. Absolutely correct!
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  35. eyed
    eyed 10 September 2015 17: 49 New
    +4
    Quote: Alex66
    Is Putin so helpless? It is often written that it is necessary to amend the constitution, expand powers, and hold a referendum. And now, who is stopping him? they are like brothers with Medvedev, i.e. the government for him, the security forces for his own, probably the same. who is against it? We are told by the bureaucratic apparatus, well this is ridiculous, the silviks will quickly learn to love their homeland only tell them, then Putin is silent. And why? The problem is private property. Both Putin and Medvedev, the government, and security officials have overgrown with private property created by generations of Soviet people and they should leave it like a hunt. They don’t know how to quit everything and save Russia, or perish together, but don’t give up their (stolen) one.
    I'm waiting for what they choose.

    I don’t know what private property "created by generations of Soviet people" they got, but I know for sure that they got created by generations in Europe and colored papers with presidents of different generations. There they have EVERYTHING - there are only positions and, according to the declarations, there is no nichrome. Yes, and nichrome and it is not necessary - after all, and so on everything is ready. Mansions and cottages do not count - they are not built on them or stolen - and it’s not necessary to feel sorry for them ... they will not live in them, let alone children. I think that stealing for 20 years is still enough, and then what, I’ll fuck you, I won’t live ....
  36. BigElectricCat
    BigElectricCat 10 September 2015 18: 14 New
    0
    Quote: antoXa
    It is necessary to raise a normal next generation, this is in my opinion the main task for today!


    You don’t worry so much, the state has already thought for you in this direction ... especially at my place.
  37. Vasisualiy
    Vasisualiy 10 September 2015 18: 26 New
    +8
    Gloomily. But on business. The Duma, which can not pass the law on pedophilia. It seems that these pedophiles gathered there. Against confiscation, yes, they’ll take everything from them! Nationalization, or Khokhlyatsky option for further development.
  38. 31rus
    31rus 10 September 2015 18: 37 New
    +5
    The president himself said that no one and nothing in the government will change “we will continue liberal reforms,” so according to Delyagin, the next phase is destruction, then everyone understands the chaos, alas, we cannot do without shocks
  39. Evilcat
    Evilcat 10 September 2015 19: 26 New
    +3
    Nothing more to steal
    Chu on you. In modern conditions, they begin to steal after the words "It is necessary to allocate money for ..." and before the words for what exactly this money should be allocated.
  40. KUOLEMA
    KUOLEMA 10 September 2015 19: 27 New
    +3
    Quote: vorobey
    Quote: Ilya77
    They steal from the terrible, I work at the factory - I am horrified.


    Did they write to the prosecutor’s office?

    And do not steal there?
  41. ASK505
    ASK505 10 September 2015 20: 15 New
    +4
    Delyagin said A, but doesn’t tell B. Then why should something be sucked out of the finger about the obvious ?. At least some of my ideas. And then he prays for the Gaidar raw material model of the 90s, which is already clearly bankrupt? This is incomprehensible only to Tuzik. He is busy. Chases fleas. Where do we go without Second Industrialization on a new number base? Only oil and gas pump into the tundra? “Cadres decide everything,” comrade Stalin said, and began by putting things in order in the financial system.
  42. KRIG55
    KRIG55 10 September 2015 20: 26 New
    +4
    The author, apparently, has not been to the factories for a long time. There is still something left to steal and effective managers who have nothing to do with all this “digging.” For this, all kinds of ooo.oao are created. which disappear as they appear.
  43. TOR2
    TOR2 10 September 2015 21: 18 New
    +4
    No matter how you twist a lot of smart people in our country. Even in the early 90s, those who were farsighted said that this frolic would be enough to frolic until 2012-15. It is clear that there is still something to steal, but every year this site will only narrow.
  44. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 10 September 2015 22: 58 New
    +1
    Brzezinski, speaking with our scientists on the missile defense problem, noted that “he does not see a single case in which Russia could resort to its nuclear potential, while in American banks there is $ 500 billion owned by the Russian elite. - And then he added: you still figure out whose elite it is - yours or ours already. This elite does not in any way connect its fate with the fate of Russia. They have money there, the children are already there ...
    .
    http://topwar.ru/37876-bzhezinskiy-chinovniki-rossii-derzhat-v-ssha-500-mlrd-dol
    larov-sobstvennyh-sredstv.html
    Now, until we figure out whose elite it is, until the elite is national .... whatever laws are adopted, they’ll follow them, no matter what decrees the President issued, FIGs will fulfill them. In a recent form of the ONF “For affordable medicine, it was stated that out of 185 presidential orders on healthcare, only 69 were executed. This is a clear sign that officials put something on decrees and other orders of the GDP. So what should they be persuaded? Eat for mom .. eat for dad .. " wassat
    It is high time for the guarantor to use power.
    1. anip
      anip 11 September 2015 10: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: Aleksandr1959
      It is high time for the guarantor to use power.

      But does he not use power? Uses, don’t you see around the results?
  45. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 11 September 2015 00: 54 New
    +3
    Laws and logic in Russian ...
    It is possible to take away a building from the kindergarten or museum in favor of the church, because it belonged to the church 90+ years ago.
    But it is impossible to take away from the oligarch for the benefit of the country a processing plant illegally seized 20 years ago. wassat
  46. Governor
    Governor 11 September 2015 01: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: veksha50
    Quote: Flinky
    For development, you need to seriously tighten the Criminal Code



    This is all talk ... Even what is available in the modern Criminal Code and in general legislation would be quite enough for a real fight against corruption, which is the main cause of all our troubles ...

    However, laws do not work !!!

    And first of all, the main constitutional postulate does not work, which states that before the law, ALL are equal ...

    I would even say that the constitution is a filkin letter. It seems to be there and it seems that everything is so correct, but nobody cares about it.
    They created a "market" ... And what responsibility can there be in the market?
    One thing is clear - the end of the thieves unwashed Russia is already close. Something new will appear or oblivion will come. In short, Delyagin speaks correctly.
  47. Zomanus
    Zomanus 11 September 2015 04: 02 New
    +4
    The inevitability of punishment should become fashionable in our state. So that a person knows that any of his applications will be considered, if confirmed, then measures will be taken. How dashingly our citizens file complaints against doctors. So famously that soon the ambulance and the polyclinics will simply be afraid to go to work. And why also not start to ride on the thieves in power and in posts? Yes, because they understand that they will hit you and that's it. Either they will be expelled from work and will not be taken anywhere else, or ... well, you understand. There should be an oprichnina with only a president. And this oprichnina should identify not only criminals, but also those who are in the same bond with them, cover them and protect them. And then punish. Confiscation and ban on civil service. Planting is not necessary.
  48. eyed
    eyed 11 September 2015 04: 37 New
    0
    Quote: Zomanus
    The inevitability of punishment should become fashionable in our state. So that a person knows that any of his applications will be considered, if confirmed, then measures will be taken. How dashingly our citizens file complaints against doctors. So famously that soon the ambulance and the polyclinics will simply be afraid to go to work. And why also not start to ride on the thieves in power and in posts? Yes, because they understand that they will hit you and that's it. Either they will be expelled from work and will not be taken anywhere else, or ... well, you understand. There should be an oprichnina with only a president. And this oprichnina should identify not only criminals, but also those who are in the same bond with them, cover them and protect them. And then punish. Confiscation and ban on civil service. Planting is not necessary.

    Oprichnina is good! It’s just bad that the sender of that oprichnina can send her both to the wrong place and to the wrong ones. “The suite makes the king” - and we have a “guarantor”. And what do we see where we sent whom, although the “oprichnins” are up to and over and all sorts of different and all under the “guarantor” and they all want to eat deliciously.
    It seems to me that soon they will create another anti-corruption office with an anti-corruption office, and then another one of the same ... "Something is wrong at the conservatory" ....
  49. Doctor Savage
    Doctor Savage 11 September 2015 08: 57 New
    0
    Quote: ALABAY45
    Well, and not only: “While the people are illiterate, of all the arts, cinema and the circus are the most important for us!” The circus is not going to leave anywhere, but the "kina", apparently, will no longer be ..


    But about the "circus" - were silent. When waved this Cropped Quote.
  50. anip
    anip 11 September 2015 10: 05 New
    +1
    I read the article, read the comments. And no one (the vast majority, in any case) said many thanks to Putin for everything that was happening. Or, as always, has nothing to do with it?
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 11 September 2015 23: 27 New
      0
      Very good question, I note.