Russia without production - a sick country

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The president of the Rosagromash Association, a major shareholder of the New Commonwealth group of companies, Konstantin Babkin, spoke about what should be the new industrial policy in Russia, as well as the benefits of sanctions to Expert. Under his leadership, a comprehensive program for the strategic development of one of the largest factories in the Rostov region, Rostselmash (part of the Novoy sodruzhestvo group of companies), was developed and implemented.

- What, from your point of view, are the consequences for our economy from the introduction of mutual sanctions by the Russian Federation and the West? Have you managed to launch import substitution in Russia to the extent that you wanted?

- By and large, I do not see that sanctions represent a serious problem for our economy. If you look at the situation in perspective, a certain proportion of confrontation with the West is characteristic of Russia in almost any period of its development. And it was with the king, and under the Soviet regime. If we talk specifically about the industry in which we operate, then the agricultural engineering did not affect the sanctions. In the European Union there was one discussion, they wanted to attribute agricultural equipment to dual-use products and limit supplies to Russia, but then the large Western companies themselves strongly opposed this step and in the end - no sanctions.

On the other hand, if we keep in mind our internal Russian situation, the new political situation gives hope that the brains of our government and society will be cleared and a more correct economic policy will be built. After all, we have been living in the Gaidar economic model for almost a quarter of a century - unrestrained faith in the good invisible hand of the market that will judge and do everything for us, denying the need to protect the interests of its producers, the priority of the financial and banking sector over production. For a quarter of a century, we have been living under the dictatorship of consumerism and the abandonment of basic values, not paying attention to what happens with demographics, the number of jobs, the development of industry and technology. I continue to hope that the priority of our development will change from frantic-liberal and market-fundamentalist to a more pragmatic, modern type of thinking. In the new political situation, after the Crimea, the Ukrainian events, the rhetoric of our leadership has changed. Words such as agricultural development, import substitution, 25, millions of jobs were trying to create. In our agricultural machinery on this wave, the government has developed a program whereby farmers are subsidized by a quarter of the price of purchased Russian agricultural equipment and do not subsidize the purchase of foreign equipment.

- And does it work?


- Works very well. Last year, when it began to be implemented, there was a fifteen percent subsidy. As a result, against the background of a falling global engineering market, we had growth. This year, due to the ruble exchange rate jumps, the situation is a bit more complicated. In the spring there was a fall, but after the amount of subsidies was increased to 25 – 30 percent, the industry is again in the black.

- But the year has passed. And are there, according to your feelings, any changes?

- While the same people are sitting, the same words say that the fight against inflation is most important. But I continue to hope that we will nevertheless come to change here. Ukrainian events are pushing for this step. After all, it is clear that a country that does not produce anything, in which people are idle, because of its weakness becomes the subject of intervention and manipulation. For our part, we are trying to make an effort to shift the situation. Here we had the Moscow Economic Forum (organized by the Lomonosov Moscow State University, the Institute of Economics of the Russian Academy of Sciences, and the Rosagromash Association). The forum brought together economists, who have not only an alternative to the Gaidar group, but a positive outlook on development, the right priorities.

- And what should this alternative Gaidar's new concept look like?

- It involves a change of priorities. It is necessary to stop focusing on the fight against inflation, the accumulation of the Stabilization Fund, membership in the WTO and other similar organizations that depend on Western countries and their allies. It is necessary to focus on real values. To them I would attribute the development of non-primary production. If it is not profitable to produce in Russia, then it is a sick Russia. If we set ourselves this priority, it will immediately become clear that taxes should not be constantly raised, as is done, but on the contrary, radically reduced. It is necessary not to lift the rate of the Central Bank, but to significantly reduce or reset it altogether. Inflation is just a by-product. If production develops, inflation is not terrible, it is even useful. It is necessary not to have the WTO as a fetish (after all, a huge number of interests have merged into joining it), but to develop our own production and create equal conditions of competition for our producers. Today, not everyone understands, but our manufacturers of many goods: furniture, cars, and so on - are unequal compared with Western manufacturers. Therefore, we first of all need to protect our interests and support the export of our goods, which is virtually nonexistent today. It is also important to reconsider the system of interrelation of scientific institutions and industry. Institutions exist with us somehow completely by themselves. For example, in agricultural engineering there are ten institutions. They occupy six buildings and receive subsidies from the state, but the industry practically does not use the results of their work. We applied to the FANO, to the institutes with a specific request. And we are told: give us money. And they ask one hundred percent payment. But then it is easier for us to do these studies in our design bureaus. Question: why then do these institutions exist?

- Why did you buy a plant in Canada? And how does your production volume correlate here and there?

- Here we have the production volume - 600 million dollars, and there - 350 – 400. We bought a factory there for a long time, in 2008 year. Then Rostelmash produced only combines, and in order to be interesting to the consumer, in order to feel more confident in the market, not so dependent on fluctuations in demand, it was necessary to expand the product line, and we decided to produce tractors. Calculated how much is your tractor from scratch. Then they saw the tractor plants in Russia, Ukraine, the CIS, Europe, around the world. Gone with such expanding circles (there are not so many plants for sale). And the Canadian plant went best. That is, we did not endure our production. Combines that were produced in Russia, and are made here, and there - the tractor. But this step will make the company more sustainable. Sometimes it happens in Russia, everything is bad, but it’s good there. Now there is heavier, in Russia better. Technologically, I can’t say that this has given us so much, our engineers already travel to factories all over the world.

- What is your relationship with the local authorities? Administration of the Rostov region helps?

- According to my feelings, the regional authorities are closer to the land, to their producers. They understand that production is the key to the wealth of the region. And so the policy is carried out appropriate. The governor regularly happens with us, always aware of all the problems and successes. In June, he, together with the Minister of Industry, Manturov, launched the production of a new combine. This support is not only moral, for example, it subsidizes a part of the cost of our machines to its farmers.

- What is the share of local components in your equipment that you produce here?

- Roughly speaking, a quarter of components is brought from abroad, from the cost of the combine it is about fifteen percent. The rest is ours.

- And how good is this technique?


- Two years ago, the Ministry of Industry and Trade conducted a test of the reliability and performance of our and leading foreign companies. We won in most parameters - performance, grain quality, fuel consumption, cost of cleaning.

- It was not such specially assembled cars?

- No, the usual cars were. On the other hand, foreign companies were also invited with their specialists and brought those cars that they wanted, and not just taken off the assembly line. But for some reason, the results of the study were classified and still not published. We were told that under the terms of contracts with foreign firms they cannot publish the results without their consent. Muddy some story. But a lot of other competitions were held: in the regions and in the West. Very worthy we looked everywhere. In addition, a quarter of all the equipment we produce is exported to thirty countries of the world, including Germany, the USA, and Canada. And the reviews are also normal.

- What is stopping you from exporting more?

- Our current economic policy, in which we are given loans at 18 percent, while in Canada - at 1,8 percent. In addition, we need low taxes and cheap resources. For example, we buy electricity in Rostov and in Winnipeg, and so this winter ours was more expensive in 2,3, and now it has become more expensive. To increase Russian non-oil exports, we need to improve production conditions here and organize export support.

- How do you imagine that? It seems that we have structures that should deal with these ...

- There are structures similar to those in the West, but they do not work at all. We see real benefits only from EXIAR. Under their insurance, we go to new markets. All deliveries to Europe are under their insurance coverage. But one insurance agency, even a very good one, is not enough. This is about three percent of what we should do. Now I will tell you what our competition looks like, for example, in such a simple case as Armenia. Germans come there to the exhibition, bring their combine, put it up at the university, make a stand, and the German state paid half of the cost of all this. The Germans offer to buy their harvester on credit at four percent per annum for ten years and still promise Armenians to build a service center for these combines from them - the German state, not the manufacturer, will also pay for half of this service center. In addition, the German ambassador to Armenia, and Angela Merkel herself, if she arrives, everyone will ask the Armenian president why he will not buy a fine German combine and so offends German entrepreneurs. And here we come, "Rostselmash", we do everything at our own expense: both the trip and the stand - the state does not pay us. Armenians look at our combine, they say that the combine is good, but it costs the same. “Germans give us at four percent for ten years, and how much?” And I say: “Well, 18 percent per annum and for three years we can’t, a maximum of one year.” It is possible, of course, to refinance for ten years, only then the combine will rise in price three times, and on German conditions - only by 40 percent. Then the question is settled, and Armenians buy from the Germans.

At the same time, the President of Armenia personally addressed a letter to our President that he likes our equipment and he asks to arrange for leasing and guarantees payment through state companies. But he did not even answer. Just silence. At the same time, our state two years ago gave Armenia 500 million dollars for nothing. Of course, they took the money, and they dissolved in a month. But after all, it would be possible to link these two things and not to give with money, but with our goods: combines, bicycles, anything. But it does not work for us. Turkmen, Uzbeks also buy not our equipment, but American and German. When our politicians go there to communicate, we have never even been invited2. It turns out that both German and American politicians carry delegations of their industrialists and talk about them, and ours never. But our politicians would ask them why they are not letting our equipment to the market?
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  1. +23
    10 September 2015 05: 52
    "... a major problem for our economy" represents the cabinet of ministers led by DAM.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. +8
      10 September 2015 12: 54
      The topic, of course, is interesting. We will not talk about school books and state ideology, which, as it were, does not exist, but it is everywhere western, starting from imported toothpicks or lighters and ending with TV broadcasting. And what is production? Of course, it is understandable, a merger with the world economy (read private business), conversions, targeted reforms in a single one after a fire, etc. crap. And what do we see? Foreign gaskets and diapers pressed a little sanctions in our entire economy. There are no components, no machines, no seeds, feed and fertilizers. Somewhere more, somewhere less. And where they are not needed, they are frankly crushed. Although everything was! And where to start recovery? Ah, yes, we will lay next pipes to the East and West, we will lease land, a couple of generations in advance, otherwise the profit of the note oligarchs will drop. Oh well. hi
      The system needs to be changed.
      1. +3
        10 September 2015 18: 03
        Quote: siberalt
        And what do we see? Foreign gaskets and diapers pressed a little sanctions in our entire economy. There are no components, no machines, no seeds, feed and fertilizers.


        You can take two documents - the Doctrine of National Security, in which the just mentioned elements belong to it, and the Constitution of the Russian Federation, which discloses the duties of the president, government, the Duma, the judicial system ...

        And what do we see ??? Yes, the fact that nothing is done ...
  2. +17
    10 September 2015 06: 10
    Oh, I'm afraid we will ditch our production to the end with such a policy, oh ditch. The loan is 10 times more expensive, energy too. How to produce ???? Well, the state’s marketing policy is without words, only interjections.
    1. -15
      10 September 2015 07: 51
      Kos_kalinki9
      Well, the state’s marketing policy is without words, only interjections.



      You yourself understood what you wrote ??? Drive to your ruin and work with your handles ... or over the hillock "in between" laughing
    2. +6
      10 September 2015 12: 17
      Did you just find out? In 2005, when the agricultural development program began in the Amur Region, we already knew that it was cheaper to buy foreign equipment than ours. And even then K. Babkin came to the "Technology Show Days" and fairs to show new equipment. They were usually carried out on the basis of our company, it is not far from the city. And then our management was ready to take our own, since it is cheaper to maintain, cheaper spare parts. But when it came to lending, the banks threw such interest on these products that we would be left without pants. At the same time, German and French equipment was sold at preferential prices and at preferential interest rates. I am surprised how in those conditions the representatives of Rostov and St. Petersburg managed to sell something. But our equipment was really at the world level.
      1. +8
        10 September 2015 14: 53
        Amurets! 12.17. There was a video where two combines competed. Our and a foreigner. Oddly enough, our foreigner rode around. I don’t know whether the movie was adjusted or real. But it was nice that our technology is no worse. Judging by the actions of the authorities in the banking sector, an upswing in industry is not planned. And they do not fight inflation, but inflate it.
        1. +1
          10 September 2015 18: 06
          Quote: Region 34
          There was a video where two combines competed. Our and a foreigner. Oddly enough, our foreigner rode around.



          So this is what the interview says !!!

          However, banks (Russian !!!) fulfilled the order of foreign marketers (!!!), and the result is obvious ...

          PS But such actions can be intelligently attributed to the undermining of national security ... And from the bank to get into ... the "bank" with barbed wire ...
  3. +11
    10 September 2015 06: 14
    But real-life import substitution, clever little words of Dimon and everything ... import substitution does not end there, where are cheap loans to manufacturers?
    1. +12
      10 September 2015 06: 18
      BANKS is sacred. Don’t touch it better. (In general, it's high time.)
      1. -6
        10 September 2015 06: 38
        Kos_kalinki9
        BANKS is sacred. Don't touch better


        ... you may need to read the news more often. There was not a month that would not have covered one or another bank. Cleaning is ongoing! And the factories are opening, new, with new technologies .... not like in the USSR, just to put a tick. And how do you imagine a complete import substitution, in the morning I woke up ...... and all the substitution ????? Speaking of such a nonsense, I think you are under 18 years old and you have everything ahead. And if not .... and die.
        1. +7
          10 September 2015 06: 50
          I meant interest. And with the cleaning of the banks, as you put it, he drank himself to the fullest when activities ceased in two banks where our company had accounts. And suppliers with a knife to the throat - transfer money. But as????
          1. +8
            10 September 2015 06: 58
            Live example. Bought software. 50% advance payment, the rest upon installation and start-up. We made an advance payment, the guys installed the program, we paid the balances, and the bank suspended its activity. The payment has left us and the money hasn’t come to the contractor. What should I do? Pay again? They threaten to block the program. How to work, explain?
            1. +1
              10 September 2015 07: 14
              This is the hidden sabotage of the Fifth Column.
              1. +4
                10 September 2015 07: 16
                And comrade EGOrrka claims that the banks are being "cleaned". he himself would have gotten under such a "purge".
                1. -3
                  10 September 2015 08: 07
                  .... then clean the banks then do not clean the banks, you are right Yatsenyuk! wassat
                  1. +1
                    10 September 2015 18: 29
                    then clean the banks then do not clean the banks, you are right Yatsenyuk ,,
                    why did you get accustomed here? everyone (on the site) works for dill, you’re the one to the glory of Russia. first you find out how much they pumped into banks and what is the return on this. banks then close, and where is the money that the Central Bank transferred to them?
            2. 0
              10 September 2015 07: 21
              ..... banks do not close in one day ........ either you don’t tell the truth, or you don’t agree on everything ...... Example: the enterprise "N" had no money in its account, but during weeks were supposed to come and the supplier was unwavering, let's prepay, well, and faxed it off, and three days later, after the money came, they apologized and faxed this confirmation ... ...
              1. +7
                10 September 2015 09: 15
                Quote: EGOrkka
                ..... banks do not close in one day ........ either you are not telling the truth, or you are not negotiating everything ......

                ...Respected! You (with a VERY capital letter, if cho ...) have dealt with the production, turnover and movement of finances, or so - ... you may need to read the news more often.?
                1. -4
                  10 September 2015 09: 59
                  CONTROL
                  dealing with the production, circulation and movement of finances, or so


                  For the gifted. Before introducing a ban on banking, the bank impose restrictions ....... if cho ... bully

                  have had
                  1. 0
                    10 September 2015 17: 17
                    Yeah, and transactions are forbidden. IF CHE. Comrade, I reproached that I am 18, work 37 years in production, go from the master of the site to Ch. engineer of the enterprise, then we will talk. While there is no point in talking !!!!!
                2. +1
                  10 September 2015 17: 24
                  A companion of smart books read where everything is beautiful and correct. And you don’t need to read the news, you can just look out the window, but laziness, it’s better to book, oh, I’m sorry, the Internet, everything is correctly described there. Sorry, but today the program was blocked (as described above). We consider the wage to be a worker on the calculator, soon for non-payment (payments do not go through) they will turn off the email. energy. We will count on the accounts.
                  1. -2
                    10 September 2015 18: 03
                    Kos_kalinki9
                    Smart books reader


                    ... read verbatim: Before introducing a ban on banking, the bank impose restrictions !! What they did not know, did not control, but simply missed, say so !!! When they blocked my accounts, I sent them by transfer from the post office! (I had to quickly-pass), and so there are other banks !!! If your accounts are blocked, send from your wife’s account! ... if not, your girlfriend. And they don’t consider the accountant’s salary, because you’re full ....... Grandfather spoke at the factory of 1500 souls, there was 1 accountant and he managed to do everything. It’s not a job and a seniority, a person works. This will not help you anymore ...

                    whoever wants to do is looking for a way. and who does not want a reason!
                    1. +1
                      10 September 2015 18: 18
                      And how much did the post office take the interest rate? And if you overtake 800-900 thousand. What, too, by mail? And this money should have come to me from my consumers. I wonder how I will transfer money from the company’s account to my mistress’s account. And will my friends and wives make friends too, to post accounts? And what about my grandfather, well, if he said, then yeahhhhhhh . If you are far from production do not go into the jungle, please !!!!! Well, judging by the fact that you are listening to your grandfather, then you have 0 knowledge in production.
                      1. -1
                        10 September 2015 18: 23
                        ..... Yes, you are not the leader -......... such in Russia became extinct along with socialism. You are a talker sayt-if too soft. hi
                      2. 0
                        10 September 2015 18: 49
                        Well, yes, you lead. You and zalipuhi know how to send. You are a bird talker. Sorry to dispute with YOU. It is useless. There is nothing more to say. Goodbye for the sim. Yes, it’s interesting to learn all the same. Who pays at the enterprise? Specifically, without blah blah.
              2. +1
                10 September 2015 18: 15
                Quote: EGOrkka
                .banks do not close in one day ........ either you do not tell the truth, or you don’t agree on everything ...... Example: the enterprise "N" had no money in its account, but within a week they had to come and the supplier is unwavering, let's prepay, well, and faxed it off, and three days later, as the money arrived, they apologized and faxed this confirmation ...... no longer rolled.



                Hmm ... Will give an ist fantastish ... "They sent a sticky" ... Do you at least know what kind of sticky things happen ??? And which bank allowed the "zalipuha" to be sent, and which bank "zalipuha" believed and did not raise a howl ???

                Maybe just such banks weekly-monthly and deprive of licenses ???
                1. -1
                  10 September 2015 18: 25

                  Do you even know what kind of sticky things happen?



                  .... and what do you mean by the word sticky? and at what bank and revocation of licenses, guys, you better shovels ... ridiculed. laughing laughing laughing
                  1. +1
                    10 September 2015 19: 09
                    So tell us the poor and the poor, "smart" you are ours.
      2. +1
        10 September 2015 09: 18
        Quote: Kos_kalinki9
        BANKS is sacred. Don’t touch it better. (In general, it's high time.)

        With both hands "for", and - it's a pity that one! + ... and it's a pity that only two hands ...
      3. +3
        10 September 2015 18: 11
        Quote: Kos_kalinki9
        BANKS is sacred. Don’t touch it better. (In general, it's high time.)



        Every week, Central Bank revokes a license from 2 to 4 banks ... For various violations ...

        As far as I understand, commercial banks are being abolished by quiet glanders and with stable dynamics, the banking system is being enlarged (or planned), most likely there will be several large banks with branches throughout Russia (as in the USSR) with state participation ...

        But there are more than 280 of them (commercial banks) in Russia ...

        And how can one be glad if the Central Bank continues to pursue an anti-Russian, anti-state policy, and its head is praised by the head of state ???
    2. +2
      10 September 2015 06: 20
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      But real-life import substitution, clever little words of Dimon and everything ... import substitution does not end there, where are cheap loans to manufacturers?

      Well, with this you need not to Medvedev, but to Putin.
      1. +3
        10 September 2015 06: 48
        So he will send him to Dimon again .. they say the government has decided .. everything, as always, from Serdyukov - ending with Vasiliev (Freudian reservation) economy
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    3. +5
      10 September 2015 09: 17
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      But real-life import substitution, clever little words of Dimon and everything ... import substitution does not end there, where are cheap loans to manufacturers?

      It may not work for you, but we get "substituted"!
      ... But as for loans - alas, everything is so ... as it was! For which + !.
    4. WKS
      +1
      10 September 2015 11: 57
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      Where are cheap loans to manufacturers?

      They are afraid that loans under forged documents will be pulled for completely different purposes. After all, our banking system can do just that.
    5. +5
      10 September 2015 12: 34
      But does he even understand what he’s talking about? When I had to leave the agricultural company I switched to a gold mining company. And then he came to our company. So he asked why the company is a joint venture with foreigners? This question plunged our CEO shock. Because a year ago Medvezhonok refused loans and state guarantees for the development of production.
      1. +3
        10 September 2015 17: 39
        That's where the dog rummaged. Credit denial, and we import substitution, support of our producer. Ugh.
  4. +3
    10 September 2015 06: 17
    hi
    Quote: name
    "... a major problem for our economy" represents the cabinet of ministers led by DAM.

    We have a presidential republic, I would add one more person to your list. We do not have laws, we have more decrees, the country is on "manual control".
    1. +10
      10 September 2015 07: 51
      "manual control".
      More likely automatic transmission. skidding, but do not move, you can certainly try to turn back, there seems to be drier there. But God forbid at least the edge of the wheel of socialism hurt. Better go ahead into the puddle of liberalism ...
      1. +2
        10 September 2015 08: 00
        Quote: Gardamir
        More likely automatic transmission. skidding, but they don’t move, you can certainly try to turn back,

        If the machine stalls, then you need to push it out manually, otherwise the cabin will start to smell like rubber, which means the machine is on.
      2. +6
        10 September 2015 12: 33
        Gardamir:
        But God forbid socialism, at least by the edge of the wheel, to offend. Better go ahead into the puddle of liberalism ...

        Figuratively and strongly said - good + + + + +
        This is not a ride, but some kind of masochism ... negative
        And there are three reasons for this:
        1. Riding NOT THERE. stop
        2. Riding NOT ON THAT. wassat
        3. A DRIVER (maybe a whole CREW) - WHO? fool (from the series: "it was not the reel - xxx sat in the cockpit")
        And is it time to transfer to something less prone to impassability? hi
        1. 0
          11 September 2015 02: 38
          there are only two options for off-road - tanks or jeeps, it remains to choose ... hi
  5. +5
    10 September 2015 06: 20
    German and American politicians carry delegations of their industrialists and talk about them, and ours never

    Obviously, we don’t have time to resolve industrial issues, because there are more important things to do (for example, personal ones). For each little thing, they begin to cite the West as an example, but how to work for yourself is probably not enough mind.
    1. +4
      10 September 2015 07: 43
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Obviously, we don’t have time to solve industrial issues

      Rather, the toad is choking, it’s necessary to pay
  6. +6
    10 September 2015 06: 49
    "Gaidar's cause lives on and wins" only because in this notorious "model" it is easiest to rob people. At the sale of the national property, the fortunes of the current nouveau riche are mainly created. The Russian economy will begin to develop when the outflow of capital abroad stops. After all, capital is not only money ...
  7. +9
    10 September 2015 07: 06
    Alexander Romanov (4) RU Today, 06: 20 ↑ New
    Quote: afdjhbn67
    But real-life import substitution, clever little words of Dimon and everything ... import substitution does not end there, where are cheap loans to manufacturers?
    Well, with this you need not to Medvedev, but to Putin.

    It will not work. He’s busy. I can’t say what at the moment, whether he submerges in a fighter, or flies on a submarine, or hunts in the taiga with a "bolt". laughing
    1. +2
      10 September 2015 07: 27
      Quote: Yarik

      It will not work. He’s busy. I can’t say what at the moment, whether he submerges in a fighter, or flies on a submarine, or hunts in the taiga with a "bolt".

      A strange situation, Putin is diving somewhere or flying, Medvedev doesn’t work, but it hurts. Who then deals with the country? None of your laughing According to this logic, the country should no longer exist, but it does exist. Strange and not logical wassat
      1. +3
        10 September 2015 08: 08
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        According to this logic, the country should no longer exist, but it does exist. Strange and not logical

        Are you ready to announce the success of the Russian Federation in the development of its own industrial production?
      2. +3
        10 September 2015 11: 21
        under Yeltsin, too, everyone worked and rumbled about reforms .. to go to work and work not identically.
    2. one
      +2
      10 September 2015 07: 38
      Quote: Yarik
      Alexander Romanov (4) RU Today, 06: 20 ↑ New
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      But real-life import substitution, clever little words of Dimon and everything ... import substitution does not end there, where are cheap loans to manufacturers?
      Well, with this you need not to Medvedev, but to Putin.

      It will not work. He’s busy. I can’t say what at the moment, whether he submerges in a fighter, or flies on a submarine, or hunts in the taiga with a "bolt". laughing

      but in time everywhere!
      At the same time, our state two years ago gave Armenia 500 million dollars just like that.

      bully
      1. +5
        10 September 2015 11: 22
        Quote: Yarik
        It will not work. He’s busy. I can’t say what at the moment, whether he submerges in a fighter, or flies on a submarine, or hunts in the taiga with a "bolt".

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        A strange situation, Putin is diving somewhere or flying, Medvedev doesn’t work, but it hurts. Who then deals with the country? None of your

        Quote: V.ic
        Are you ready to announce the success of the Russian Federation in the development of its own industrial production?

        Quote: Someone
        but in time everywhere!

        Excuse me, please, that I, not being familiar, allow myself ... but the subject of your scientific conversation is so interesting that ... (c)
        Let me inquire, who is the force that dragged our country into the WTO, initiated the laws on ASEZs, puts our money in the stabilization fund in the USA, etc.? Who is the bastard who pays millions of wages a day to Sechin, Yakunin and other close associates of our imposing Sun-like? Of course, I understand that Solntseky is beyond suspicion, but who is cutting funding for hospitals and schools while investing in the development of the nuclear industry in Hungary and Turkey? Who not so long ago transferred for China 49 years 4 million hectares of our land in Transbaikalia, 250 r. per hectare per year? For comparison: the area of ​​Crimea is 2,7 million. ha. How much will the World Cup cost? First of all, do we need industry or stadiums? etc. Tired of asking questions. Who wants - add it yourself.
        1. -2
          10 September 2015 11: 32
          Quote: villain
          that dragged our country into the WTO,

          Putin and that, but since they put everything on the WTO with the device, we did not lose anything.
          Quote: villain
          , puts our money in the stabilization fund in the USA, etc.?

          Central bank
          Quote: villain
          Who is the bastard who pays millions of salaries per day to Sechin, Yakunin

          They are heads of corporations who pay them salaries.
          Quote: villain
          but who cuts funding for hospitals and schools in

          But have you reduced it?
          Quote: villain
          Who not so long ago transferred for China 49 years 4 million hectares of our land in Transbaikalia, 250 r. per hectare per year?

          Why the hell do you have prices from Sobchak?
          Quote: villain
          How much will the World Cup cost?

          You forgot the Olympics, stadiums are advertising and the development of sports in the country.
  8. +6
    10 September 2015 07: 28
    Dead end of the raw material "Gaidar" model of mirages from the 90s. is obvious today. Here are all the problems. And education, and the aviation industry, and space, and medicine, and machine-tool building, etc. The list is long. Without the Second Industrialization on a new digital base, we will not get out of this swamp, and the West, with the support of the saboteurs of the Fifth Column, will brazenly only increase the pressure on us. On the pro-American and comprador tails in the Russian Federation, it will still be painful to attack. Half measures won't help. The game was serious.
    1. +3
      10 September 2015 08: 10
      Quote: w3554152
      The game went serious.

      It will be a pity if the "Game" remains play!
  9. +6
    10 September 2015 08: 07
    Once again, we are convinced that pests have settled in the government, continuing the dirty work of the nit of the gaydarchik (to burn him with filthy creatures!) To squander and plunder the country in their interests.
    So, what is next?
  10. +7
    10 September 2015 08: 34
    In the government, we have no production workers, only hucksters are sitting
  11. +3
    10 September 2015 09: 09
    Quote: name
    "... a major problem for our economy" represents the cabinet of ministers led by DAM.

    And also the Central Bank and financial organizations that are not accountable to anyone, who receive income from speculation in foreign currency and from exorbitant interest on loans.
  12. +3
    10 September 2015 10: 29
    correctly said about economic policy. energy prices in Russia should be at least two times lower than world prices, and nothing prevents this. we have everything of our own, Russia is a self-sufficient country with a huge territory.
  13. +3
    10 September 2015 11: 00
    It's the same story with civil aircraft and machine tools. The government pretends not to understand the new rules of the game and is playing a game called manual sunset.
  14. +2
    10 September 2015 11: 02
    Here is the LiveJournal post that Konstantin Babkin made on October 2 2013 of the year:

    Why the tractor factory will remain in Canada

    babkin_k

    Putin asked to write a note about why Rostselmash does not transfer tractor production from Canada to Russia. Compare conditions.

    I think this information will be interesting to you.

    1. Labor cost
    The difference between Russia and Canada in the cost of labor is not so great. In 2012, the average salary of a skilled worker (for example, a welder or a assembler) in Rostov-on-Don amounted to 67-69% of the salary of a similar worker in Winnipeg (see table 1). However, in Russia, taxes on wages and value added (VAT) are higher.
    In Canada, 3,5 times lower than contributions to the pension fund, 2 times lower than accident insurance fees, one third lower value added tax (12% versus 18% in Russia), but 2,8 times higher income tax. As a result, it is necessary to pay taxes and deductions of 81 kopecks per ruble of the salary handed out in Russia, and in Canada - 72 kopecks.

    Labor costs at a plant in Canada amounted to 2012 million US dollars in 38,5. Labor costs at a similar plant in Rostov-on-Don would amount to 28,5 million US dollars, which is 10,0 million US dollars less.

    However, from 2002 to 2012, the average wage in Russia grew by 472% (average annual growth rate: + 21,1%), and in Canada - only by 30% (+ 2,0% per year). With growth at such rates through 3-4 of the year, labor in Russia will cost more than in Canada.

    3. The cost of energy and transport

    Gas supply. The cost of one cubic meter of gas in the 2012 year in the Southern Federal District averaged 4,594 rubles. The cost of a cubic meter of gas for the Winnipeg plant in 2012 amounted to 10,461 rubles ($ 0,33) in 2,28 times. If the plant consumes 3,55 mln. M. 3 of natural gas per year (2012 data of the year), the savings in transferring the plant to Russia will be only 0,657 mln. US dollars.

    Due to the annual increase in tariffs for the supply of natural gas, enshrined in long-term concepts and forecasts of the country's socio-economic development, as well as related to the goals of Gazprom’s management to achieve equal supply prices for domestic and foreign markets, this competitive advantage is also annually is shrinking.

    Power supply. Tariffs for the supply of electricity in Canada for large industrial enterprises averaged 1,70 rubles per kW ($ 0,055). In Russia, the tariff is 2,20 times higher - 3,70 rubles. Thus, the tractor plant’s electricity costs when transferred to the Russian Federation will increase by 2,118 million US dollars, which significantly exceeds the savings in gas supply.

    Cargo transportation. Due to the high cost of fuel in Russia (on average 5,5% higher than in North America) and other factors, the prices for the transportation of products by cargo trawls (used by agricultural machinery plants) in Russia are significantly higher than Canadian prices: on average, 60,0 rubles / km in Russia and 39,4 rubles / km ($ 1,25) in Canada. The increase in transportation costs will amount to about 4,183 million US dollars.
    Tariffs for railway freight transportation are growing at a significant pace: in 2008, the most advantageous mode of transport for transporting goods at a distance of 750 kilometers was railway, in 2013, rail services were used when transporting goods at a distance from 1 500 kilometers.
    Thus, the increase in costs associated with the use of services of transport companies and natural monopolies, according to average estimates, will amount to 5,644 million US dollars per year
    1. 0
      10 September 2015 18: 31
      Quote: aviator1913
      Thus, the increase in costs associated with ...


      Well, Putin asked, Babkin provided a note ... And what is incomprehensible in it ??? Yes, it's just like an instruction to action !!!

      The tax system ... Energy ... Russian Railways .... Credit rates - first of all also ... well, etc. Everything is scheduled ... Gave a kick to DAMU, puzzled - in three days to provide an action plan ... No months to agree ....
  15. +1
    10 September 2015 11: 02
    5. Excessive bureaucracy and the complexity of accounting and tax accounting


    1. Russian companies are forced to keep records in three areas:

    - accounting in accordance with the requirements of the legislation on accounting;

    - tax accounting in accordance with the requirements of tax legislation;

    - accounting in accordance with the rules of International Financial Reporting Standards (companies that, in accordance with the requirements of federal law, must prepare consolidated financial statements).
    Canadian law provides for a single accounting.


    2. The cumbersome workflow.

    Russian legislation governing accounting and tax accounting requires the preparation of a large number of documents on paper, which leads to the need to compile 2-5 documents for one business transaction.

    In Canada, the number of documents that formalize business transactions is much less than in Russia.


    3. The need to provide a large number of documents to various regulatory and fiscal authorities.

    Bodies of control measures in the framework of field, desk, counter checks request a large number of copies of documents. Over the past year, Rostselmash Combine Plant LLC provided fiscal authorities with copies of about 41 thousand documents (the number of inspections per year is 167).

    In this regard, Russian enterprises are forced to maintain an expanded staff of accounting and financial services. The staff of these services at an enterprise in the Rostov Region (similar to Canada) will be at least 65 people, which will significantly increase the costs of the enterprise.

    According to average estimates, 1 805 thousand US dollars are required annually for the maintenance of these services, which is 1,005 million US dollars higher than the current costs at the Canadian plant, where these services employ 14 people.
    It is also important to note that the accounting system and the complexity of the workflow in Russia leads to the fact that managers of commercial departments up to 50% of the time are forced to spend on collecting and preparing documentation. At a Canadian enterprise, work with documents is minimized - no more than 10% of working time.
    1. +1
      10 September 2015 19: 23
      Quote: aviator1913
      Russian legislation governing accounting and tax accounting requires the preparation of a large number of documents on paper, which leads to the need to compile 2-5 documents for one business transaction.

      In Canada, the number of documents that formalize business transactions is much less than in Russia.


      And so everywhere you go. Mountains of unnecessary excessive scribbling from school to production. And no one on this issue wants to scratch upstairs with the times and another economic model. Outside the window is already the XNUMXst century, and things are still there in the past.
  16. +1
    10 September 2015 11: 02
    6. The tax burden


    1. Income tax


    The income tax rate in Canada is 35,0%. However, taking into account various deductions and benefits to stimulate R&D and modernization of production, the effective income tax rate at the plant in Canada in 2012 was 16,7%, which is 3,3% lower than in Russia (income tax rate in Russia is 20%) .

    Canada has the following tax incentives for modernization:

    • When purchasing equipment, its accelerated depreciation is allowed (at a faster rate than in Russia) - 30% of the remaining amount annually.
    In Russia, a depreciation deduction of 30% is allowed only in the first year, in subsequent years - 7% (with an 10-year depreciation period).
    Thus, 70% of the cost of equipment in Canada can be attributed to costs (reduce income tax) for 3 years, in Russia - for 6 years. In this regard, investing in machine tools and equipment in Canada is more profitable.

    • Canada has a Manufacturing Investment Tax Credit tax deduction program.
    The tax deduction aimed at the development and modernization of industrial production in Manitoba is 10% of the amount of capital investments (investments in the purchase of equipment, construction and repair of buildings, etc.). That is, during the construction of a new workshop worth 10 million dollars, the state automatically subsidizes the 1 million dollar factory by lowering this amount of income tax (not a taxable base, namely tax payments). There are no such deductions in Russia.

    • When conducting R & D *
    any company in Canada can immediately amortize all 100% of the expenses incurred during the first year, and additionally, by the same amount, reduce the tax base, that is, research and development costs are taken into account in half the cost.
    For example, if the cost of developing a tractor (including all associated costs) amounted to 20 million US dollars, the income tax base can be reduced by 40 million US dollars, that is, the state indirectly subsidizes the manufacturer by 14 million US dollars (40 x 0,35 = 14).
    In Russia, this measure is absent in relation to the production of machinery and equipment.
    Based on these programs, a graph is built of the dependence of income tax on the level of R&D and modernization costs. As follows from Figure 2, as Canadian companies spend more on R&D, the income tax is reduced at a faster rate. At the level of R&D expenses in the amount of 50% of profit, income tax reaches zero. In Russia, a low rate stimulates the withdrawal of profits from business, rather than investment.
    1. +1
      10 September 2015 18: 34
      Quote: aviator1913
      • When purchasing equipment, its accelerated depreciation is allowed (at a faster rate than in Russia) - 30% of remaining amount annually.



      Gosha !!! And we have the Ministry of Finance which beats even a year 3% cancel !!! (In my opinion, 3% is the most important for us, and they don’t like it) ... And then they are surprised - why leasing in Russia is not developing as fast as in the whole world ...
  17. +1
    10 September 2015 11: 03
    2. Current taxes

    In Canada, the turnover tax is divided into the federal part - the equivalent of VAT (rate 5%) and regional - sales tax (rate from 0 to 8%). The average turnover tax in Canada is 10%. The total tax rate in Winnipeg, where the plant is located, is 12% (7% is local, 5% is federal).
    The rate of value added tax in the Russian Federation is 18%.



    3. Other taxes
    For a plant in Canada, property tax in 2012 amounted to 1,176 million. This tax is calculated on the basis of the actual expenses incurred by the municipality for the maintenance of adjacent territories and infrastructure. In Rostov-on-Don, the property tax rate is 2,2% of the book value. It is also necessary to pay a land tax in the amount of 95 rubles per m2. However, the Russian company must independently finance the improvement of adjacent territories and infrastructure.
    Also, an enterprise in Canada pays a business tax of 221 thousand US dollars per year. In Russia, there is no analogue to this tax.

    In accordance with tax laws in force in the Russian Federation, a similar Canadian entity will be required to charge the following taxes:
    - income tax - 20% of profit (if any);
    - property tax - 0,54 million US dollars;
    - value added tax - 73,50 million US dollars.
    Total - 74,04 million US dollars, which is 26,10 million US dollars more than in Canada.
  18. +1
    10 September 2015 11: 03
    10. The atmosphere of doing business in Canada

    The absence of traffic jams in the cities allows the delivery of materials and components to the plant using the JIT (Just in Time) system, as a result of which there is a significant cost savings in maintaining warehouses and paying staff.
    The airport system and the abundance of airlines allows you to quickly and cheaply move around the North American continent, which greatly simplifies the conduct of business.

    Officials of any level are always available and open to dialogue, so it is possible to develop individual programs to support modernization and R&D.

    There are many mechanisms to enhance the financial discipline of counterparties. For example, when freezing funds in transactions using letters of credit, in the event of a contract failure, the guilty party must compensate for lost interest payments on frozen funds.
    (link to the full article http://babkin-k.livejournal.com/182898.html)
    1. +1
      10 September 2015 18: 37
      Quote: aviator1913
      Officials of any level are always available and open to dialogue,



      Fantastic ??? Surrealism ???
  19. +3
    10 September 2015 11: 05
    There are people of business in Russia, aimed at the development of Russia, K. Babkin is one of them.

    But the political and power representation of these people is in every possible way suppressed by the effective managers of the liberal color, who have gone astray from the feeding trough, who have been busy looting the country for 25 years.

    K. Babkin with like-minded people created the Dela party, which, as expected, is not allowed to participate in elections even at the regional level. Business is a completely superfluous phenomenon for the ruling stratum of modern Russia.

    Russia without production is a sick country, says K. Babkin, meaning, as a practical person, that the existing rulers are created for theft, not for production, therefore, a complete change of the ruling stratum is necessary for the country to recover.
  20. +3
    10 September 2015 12: 41
    Inflation is just a byproduct.
    I would say that this is an artificial product
    1. 0
      10 September 2015 18: 38
      Inflation is just a byproduct. ,,
      I would say the product is created by the government. Every year they artificially raise the tariff.
  21. +4
    10 September 2015 12: 42
    Well, if a large private enterprise makes such speeches, then apparently "our rulers" got everyone in full. And in response, silence, he did not come from Sochi yesterday.
  22. +4
    10 September 2015 15: 35
    Mdaaaa, I read this interview, and I wanted to become a sailor Zheleznyak ...

    Enter a government meeting and say; "That's it, brothers-rabbits, the guard is tired ... Well, get out of here, but live" ...

    PS And in the meantime, the Tula plant for the production of agricultural equipment on the verge of bankruptcy ... Yes, and not everything is alright with Altai ... And I probably don’t know much - in Russia then ...
    I'll go now, for the sake of interest, I find out whether the Vladimir Tractor Plant is still alive ...
  23. +5
    10 September 2015 16: 18
    Amazingly, electricity in Winnipeg is 3 times cheaper than ours. I am sure that an electrician in Canada who maintains an energy network receives several times more than our electrician. It is more expensive in our country due to "effective managers" and bosses who receive fabulous salaries, 1000 times more than the salaries of real engineers and workers. So the cost pours into a pretty penny. There are so many parasites. The Gaidar and Chubais reforms have destroyed the most reliable and efficient energy system in the world.
  24. 0
    10 September 2015 17: 11
    Do not blame everything on the lack of state support, dear manufacturers, do the normal technique. What they are doing now is ................ well, not a fountain. It is interesting that the K-701 of the 1975 model, in all respects except noise, surpasses the K-744, 2012 of release. To compare foreign agricultural machinery with ours is not even a Lada with a foreign car, but a creaking cart with a Mercedes. Foreign tractors, in terms of equipment, are far superior to cars for the rich. We do not even have air conditioners in our cars. And why, and it’s easier to blame someone and demand money than to admit the lack of brains.
    1. 0
      10 September 2015 20: 52
      It is interesting that the K-701 of the 1975 model, in all respects except noise, surpasses the K-744, 2012 of release.
      Don't write nonsense. The K-744 family has replaced not only the K-701 but also the K-700A. At the same time, the checkpoint remained the same on all models, with all "birth injuries". But the range of engines has expanded significantly. From YaMZ-238, which is similar to the K-700A dvigun, to imported samples, significantly superior to YaMZ-240 K-7o1 in basic parameters. The complete set with an Italian distributor increased the reliability of the tractor hydraulic system. On the K-744, the springs were returned under the front axle, as on the "humpback" Kirovtsy, which improved working conditions. It is possible to equip the tractor with tires of different standard sizes, which is also a plus for the 744. There is nothing to argue about the tractor driver's workplace. Even turning up the nose from the quality, the comparison is not in favor of the K-701. So your statement about "in all respects" is at least incorrect.
      What is clearly the advantage for K-701 - the price at that time and mass.
  25. +1
    12 September 2015 00: 21
    Russia without production is a painful guide! (folk poems)

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