KRET Deputy Director General spoke about the capabilities of the pilot helmet PAK FA

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Igor Nasenkov, Deputy General Director of the Radioelectronic Technologies Concern (KRET), shared the details of the new helmet for pilots of the PAK FA, noting that before his possibilities could only be seen in science fiction films.



“Now such helmets have become a reality. They were developed by our concern for pilots of the latest fifth-generation fighter PAK-FA and were presented at the exhibition "Army-2015". This helmet replaces several devices at once and is equipped with a large number of sensors. They capture the movements of the pilot’s head and, depending on where he turns his head, project the information that he needs at the moment. This includes the function of selecting and capturing a target, and much more. The pilot needs only to press the necessary buttons on the handle ", - his words "Russian newspaper".

The deputy director noted that the concern’s specialists embodied another fantastic function - projecting a picture with a battlefield onto helmet glasses, allied troops being marked with one color and enemies with another. In addition, the objects are distributed into classes, and a certain rocket under the wing is immediately assigned to them.

“As for the function of marking in different colors, it is quite easy to implement. Our concern takes 90 percent of the market for the production of a unified system of state radar identification, which, for simplicity, is called “friend or foe”. And on all of our military equipment — land, sea, and air — are radar interrogators and responders. Therefore, when, for example, a combat aircraft flies over a battlefield, the onboard system “Password” or “Guardian” works for him and the pilot sees who is “his” on the battlefield, and who is “alien” and automatically marks them with the desired color, ”Nasenkov explained .

The publication notes that other structures involved in the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation are engaged in similar developments. In particular, on the technology of augmented reality, which allows to display information that a pilot cannot get visually on a helmet glass, they work in the Russian Advanced Research Fund.
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  1. +6
    9 September 2015 11: 06
    Some come up with toys, while others bring to life. It seems to have played a toy and participated in a real war. Well, very dragonfly eyes resemble ...
    1. +6
      9 September 2015 11: 28
      Well, you can compare ours and Matrasnikov
      1. +7
        9 September 2015 11: 33
        here is the real helmet of the F-35 pilot
        1. Arh
          +4
          9 September 2015 11: 51
          Here is healthy !!! what is our army "modern" !!!
          1. +8
            9 September 2015 11: 53
            Oh surprised. Yes, every day I drive to HERE. There are also red and green, and broken down into classes: art, tanks, pt. laughing laughing laughing
            1. +10
              9 September 2015 12: 36
              WOT is a project of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. And they trained tankmen and didn’t spend on the call laughing
        2. 0
          9 September 2015 13: 38
          Cool device, probably worth it like a used fighter.
      2. +2
        9 September 2015 11: 37
        Everything would be fine if not for 2 BUT.
        1) The Americans did exactly the same crap for f35 - and they have it ALREADY ready.
        2) American crap costs an exorbitant amount of dollars and requires individual refinement for each pilot - i.e. piece copy.
        Because of this, there were even several scandals.

        I don’t know what ours is developing there, but if they step on the same rake - it will be just silly. To increase the cost of an already not the cheapest fighter is not really the right device ...
        1. +2
          9 September 2015 11: 53
          yeah, it’s like our PAK FA ... the whole project laughing
          and 3 more BUT:
          in case of sudden overloads, the neck may collapse. like there was such a problem. I don’t know whether it’s fictitious or real, but logical!
          1. +2
            9 September 2015 17: 55
            It was a long time ago: the first "badge", allowing, as now on the MiG-29 and other aircraft / helicopters, to capture the target by turning the head, was developed in the USA. Gyroscopes were then only mechanical, with a flywheel. The weight of the helmet was about 3 kilos. With an overload of 9, this is 27 kg. It is clear that the head can fall into panties :)
            1. +1
              9 September 2015 20: 11
              The MiG-29 did not seem to be so sad. This guidance of the r-73 missiles seems to have been carried out with the help of the helmet-mounted TsU. and amers precisely had a problem, but there it seems not 3 kg, but about 1.5. 3 - already bust.
              1. +3
                10 September 2015 07: 35
                Of course, not so sad: this system, which began with the MiG-29 and Ka-50, with some improvements still works on all devices where it is needed. On the helmet there are only sensors resembling "horns" and an "eyecup", the rest of the equipment is removed, so the weight is minimal.

                Moreover, it turned out that it was not enough to capture the target from the side, it was necessary that the rocket could turn on the target, therefore they made a controlled thrust vector on the rocket.

                The Americans experimented in the 70s, the beginning even in the 60s seemed to be, but the idea itself arose in Hollywood :) 3 kilos is the first flying model, then it became easier, but not enough. Having run into the problem of weight and the need for air-to-air missiles on a rocket, they abandoned the task for a long time, and the first series of fighter aircraft of the 4th generation F-15 and F-16 were not equipped with this.

                They got it when they found out that the badge is on the MiG. For experiments, they even bought somewhere Russian missiles with UVT, until they finalized their AIM-9. By the way, AIM-9 began to be developed back in 1948, and the latest series have practically nothing to do with the first ones.

                I will not name sources - I dug for a long time ...
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        3. 0
          9 September 2015 12: 00
          Quote: Darkmor
          Exactly the same crap did the Americans for f35

          Not true. The Americans have a VSI Helmet-mounted display system for spherical viewing around the clock, displaying targets and target designation, our only target indication and target designation (according to the article). There is no spherical review.
          1. +2
            9 September 2015 14: 06
            Quote: Mera Joota
            There is no spherical review.

            The article about this is somehow unclear.
            1. +2
              9 September 2015 14: 48
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              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              The article about this is somehow unclear.

              An article is torn pieces from an interview. Here is the link to the original: http://vpk.name/news/139891_voinyi_budushego_chto_mozhet_rossiya_v_radioelektron

              noi_borbe.htmlQuote: We are still actively working on many functions and this helmet-mounted system, as we move forward in development, will undergo additional tests, but much that could be seen in fantastic action films has now become real on-board equipment of a modern airplane and helicopter .
              So, as we see, the main achievement so far is the selection of goals on our own and others. The target designation function was realized back in the 80s at the NSCU Shchel-3um.
            2. 0
              9 September 2015 17: 41
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              The article about this is somehow unclear.

              Judging by the description of I-21 / T-50 / PAK-FA, there is nothing like AN / AAQ-37 (DAS) on it ...
              1. 0
                10 September 2015 21: 14
                Why would a fighter detect ballistic missile launches?
          2. 0
            9 September 2015 14: 34
            When publications on the PAK FA topic began to appear, there was talk about a "transparent" cockpit for the pilot. And then, did the uncle give all the information?
          3. 0
            9 September 2015 18: 01
            Where antennas / optics can look, it can also be shown on the helmet. If there are 35 optical sensors on the F-6, then it can do a circular view. True, it is not clear that the pilot must also rotate his head 360 degrees? :)
        4. +1
          9 September 2015 12: 03
          Quote: Darkmor
          if they step on the same rake - it will be just stupid.

          I agree. Too many features of the individual body structure must be considered by developers. If they coped with it - honor and praise. It is too wasteful to make such a helmet piece by piece, for a specific pilot.
        5. +2
          9 September 2015 13: 30
          How is this not the right device?
          Yes, without such a helmet, it will not be the fifth generation and the plane will lose half its capabilities and the raptors will drop it with their caps.
        6. +1
          9 September 2015 14: 05
          Quote: Darkmor
          Exactly the same crap did the Americans for f35 - and they have it ALREADY ready.

          As far as I know, nothing is ready. Under development.
          Quote: Darkmor
          To increase the cost of an already not the cheapest fighter is not really the right device ...

          The device is actually arch-essential.
        7. 0
          9 September 2015 17: 51
          And why are they obliged to step on the same rake? :)
      3. 0
        9 September 2015 11: 38
        Quote: insafufa
        Well, you can compare ours and Matrasnikov


        We are getting closer and closer to the fantastic images of We and Aliens ...


      4. +1
        9 September 2015 11: 43
        Quote: insafufa
        Well, you can compare ours and Matrasnikov


        The most important thing is that you do not have to compare for the price laughing
        I remember the news about the reaction of the Australians to the price of their helmet wassat Which is also individually done by the pilot fellow
      5. +1
        9 September 2015 15: 52
        Quote: insafufa
        Well, you can compare ours and Matrasnikov


        But I wonder how they compare in price.
    2. +4
      9 September 2015 11: 39
      Tell me, no one noticed the huge -IIIIII reflected in the glasses of the T-50 helmet ... KI !!! laughing
      Well, if you are seriously pleased that our defense industry is catching up with / overtaking Western / Israeli / Japanese technologies in introducing advanced microelectronics into the on-board systems of the latest fighters. By the way, I saw almost half a year ago, somewhere in the Net’s expanses, a photo of our pilot sitting in the Mig-29 cockpit in the latest French helmet ... I’m glad that KRET quietly does first-class things for our defense industry taking the best that is in the world today. .. There are many things that we don’t know about, and even if we knew we wouldn’t even talk about them on the pages of VO, because like-like, but to a country (no matter how arrogant it sounds) publishing such information can do much harm ...
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      2. -5
        9 September 2015 11: 49
        Quote: Now we are free
        I am glad that KRET is quietly doing first-class things for our defense industry, taking the best that is in the world today ..

        What they managed to pull off from the French before the sanctions, they are using it. If the Thales weren't French, they would never have dreamed of such a thing.
        1. +3
          9 September 2015 14: 37
          Yes, we have done a lot of things before. For example, the same helmet-mounted target designation system for missiles of the R-73 type, combined with an optical-location station. Foreigners presented such a system with great fanfare only years later.
    3. 0
      9 September 2015 11: 45
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Some come up with toys, while others bring to life. It seems to have played a toy and participated in a real war. Well, very dragonfly eyes resemble ...


      It is in the toy that you can start saving and start playing again, but in battle the pilot's life depends on this "toy". And the death of a pilot who did not protect the sky can lead to even greater loss of life. Some of your blasphemous comparisons.
  2. +4
    9 September 2015 11: 06
    The main thing is that the pilot does not have a roof from these 3D effects .... And so - interesting, promising.
    1. +5
      9 September 2015 11: 09
      Well, the pilots will not watch these special effects for long hours - the air battle is fleeting. It is only for gamers that the roof can move out ...
      1. 0
        9 September 2015 11: 29
        The fight is fleeting, but training?
        Here, at least, it seems like a binocular system, not a monocular one, like the Apache’s American helmet.
  3. +4
    9 September 2015 11: 08
    A very interesting development, I hope from the creation of a prototype to mass production a short period will pass and our pilots will receive a very useful device
  4. +2
    9 September 2015 11: 09
    Wait ... the next step is to project all the data into the pilot’s brain? )
    1. +1
      9 September 2015 11: 31
      What is the only wooden part of the plane.
      1. +1
        9 September 2015 12: 05
        Quote: iouris
        What is the only wooden part of the plane.

        What kind of aircraft are you talking about? Of the widespread aircraft, I know that the propeller is wooden.
        1. +3
          9 September 2015 15: 00
          Quote: Hedgehog
          What kind of aircraft are you talking about? AND

          Eugene you fell for the old aviation joke. The only wooden part on the pilot plane laughing
          1. +1
            9 September 2015 15: 19
            Quote: WUA 518
            you fell for the old aviation joke

            I can, I'm not from the volatile. But at the same time, bad fun. Yes, and the pilot is not a detail, but rather, the living creatures in the cockpit.
    2. +2
      9 September 2015 11: 31
      The next step will be a gamer with the same helmet and aircraft control handles indoors, and the PAK FA with the same sensors will transfer the picture to the gamer’s helmet and execute his commands.
      1. 0
        9 September 2015 11: 42
        and after all, science fiction writers (specifically lyvadny A.) have already predicted this. maybe not in vain the Americans are in contact with them trying to predict the direction of development of weapons and military operations?
      2. +2
        9 September 2015 11: 47
        Quote: Black Colonel
        The next step will be a gamer with the same helmet and aircraft control handles indoors, and the PAK FA with the same sensors will transfer the picture to the gamer’s helmet and execute his commands.


        So it seems they say that the 6th generation will be unmanned. For now, the pilot is the weakest link in the plane, or rather, those overloads that the human body can tolerate.

        With the development of communication technologies, with the instant response of control planes to the actions of the operator, the pilot fighters will die out as a class, IMHO. For no ace can fly with overloads beyond the body without shutting down.

        Here, of course, one of the most important places will be occupied by noise immunity of communication channels "operator-aircraft"
  5. 0
    9 September 2015 11: 09
    Damn I hope the helmet is light. and then the poor pilots will forever with cervical distemper :) but in general a hefty thing for me as a layman, wonder what pilots think? will they not be disturbed by all sorts of figures hanging before their eyes?
  6. +2
    9 September 2015 11: 09
    The pilot must be gradually removed from the aircraft, even if in extreme cases, it corrects the flight from the ground. Robots forward.
  7. +1
    9 September 2015 11: 10
    The thing is necessary, but what about the psychological preparation? The load on the pilot increases at times, even with such an advanced device
    1. +6
      9 September 2015 11: 28
      The transition from the account to the calculators was accompanied by some kind of psychological stress?
      Goals before your eyes, weapons of destruction assigned to goals, wait for the order = press the button.
      On the contrary, it seems to me that the pilot has been unloaded from some functions, there will likely be a psychological burden from dullness, if this is possible.
  8. +2
    9 September 2015 11: 13
    so soon learn to project an image onto the retina!
    1. 0
      9 September 2015 11: 31
      Why extra nodes, project directly into the brain. Of course, this is just a joke, if it does not happen soon.
  9. +10
    9 September 2015 11: 13
    Good helmet! good
    The next step is to remove his head from him, let him fight!
    1. +5
      9 September 2015 11: 24
      Quote: engineer74
      The next step is to remove his head from him, let him fight!

      The next step is when the pilot sits wearing this helmet in the control unit, and the plane over the battlefield carries out all his commands.
      1. 0
        9 September 2015 11: 28
        If you fight the Papuans - yes! And if with "non-papuas"? I am for autonomous combat systems and artificial intelligence! bully
        1. +3
          9 September 2015 11: 45
          By the way, such a helmet would look good in Armata too. And yet, I was talking about next step, and you are jumping. smile
          1. 0
            9 September 2015 11: 53
            Something I have a suspicion that he is there, maybe in the "light version". According to yesterday's photos of the T-14, there are too few monitors for a full-fledged all-round view and lighting of the tactical situation ... what
      2. 0
        9 September 2015 11: 58
        Gray hair! 11.24. And the distance does not affect the radio waves? Signal delay, sensations of body position? How about this?
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        2. gjv
          0
          9 September 2015 14: 57
          Quote: Region 34
          body position sensations

          This is yes, of course you need to feel, you are still in the Volgograd region , or already in Kostroma. wink
  10. +2
    9 September 2015 11: 13
    And on all our military equipment — land, sea, and air — there are radar interrogators and defendants. And the enemy will not detect the tank hidden in the bushes for the defendants? what
    1. 0
      9 September 2015 12: 02
      Keel 31! 11.13. No. Will not detect. He does not know a foreign language. I’m joking. But the question is interesting.
      Quote: Kil 31
      And on all our military equipment — land, sea, and air — there are radar interrogators and defendants. And the enemy will not detect the tank hidden in the bushes for the defendants? what
  11. +2
    9 September 2015 11: 16
    what a complicated technique today, and if you use electronic warfare against such an aircraft, hell knows that it will fail. As a result, screw planes with mechanically driven guns and non-controlled bombs will enter the battlefields laughing
    1. +2
      9 September 2015 11: 42
      Quote: KOSMOS59
      and if you use electronic warfare against such an aircraft, hell knows that he will refuse

      In your understanding, EW is a kind of bugaboo that, when used, covers all the electronics with a copper basin?
      Modern EW tools are designed to interfere with devices using EM radiation to transmit information or to detect targets. EW equipment can not harm the equipment of an aircraft operating internal aircraft systems.
      1. 0
        9 September 2015 12: 02
        Quote: Mera Joota

        In your understanding, EW is a kind of bugaboo that, when used, covers all the electronics with a copper basin?

        I think I clearly expressed my UNDERSTANDING
        hell knows that he will refuse
        .

        EW equipment can not harm the equipment of an aircraft operating internal aircraft systems.

        It is not known what electronic warfare will be able in a year, and now, most likely, we do not know the whole truth.
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        2. +1
          9 September 2015 12: 11
          Quote: KOSMOS59
          It is not known what electronic warfare will be able in a year, and even now we probably don’t know the whole truth

          Physics, she and in Africa, physics. The principle of electronic warfare is one, to change the received EM signal beyond recognition, that's all.
          If you are talking about EMP, then its source should be very close to the device that needs to be disabled, but what's the point if an explosive explosion does the same, but more reliably, no "Faraday cage" will save ...
          1. 0
            9 September 2015 12: 24
            I am far from an expert in this matter, but I watched a film in which electronic warfare makes it detonate tornadoes in flight. And this leads to thoughts about the possibility of harming the aircraft.
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            2. 0
              9 September 2015 13: 23
              Quote: KOSMOS59
              I'm far from an expert in this matter, but I watched a film in which electronic warfare makes it detonate tornado rockets in flight

              Do not detonate, but initiate a radio fuse:
              The fuse is a radio transmitter and a radio receiver combined into one unit. The transceiver antenna is the fuse housing. The principle of operation is based on the Doppler effect: a change in the frequency and amplitude of the reflected radio wave as the distance to the target changes. When fired from a gun, an ampoule with an electrolyte breaks inside the fuse, which activates the battery, and the transmitter begins to emit radio waves. At a certain distance from the target, the mismatch of the emitted and reflected signal leads to the operation of the electric detonator, and the projectile explodes


              The jamming is provided (SPR-2 station, source):
              - timely detection of radiation from radio fuses and interfering with it in a time not exceeding 1,5-2 s;
              - determination of the carrier frequency of radio fuses and the formation of a response interference with an error of not more than 200-300 Hz;
              - excess of the interference level above the threshold level during the time of accumulation of the signal in the integrating device of the radio fuse.

              Those. again work on EM radiation ...
  12. +1
    9 September 2015 11: 16
    And what did the pilot turn blue?
    1. +3
      9 September 2015 11: 24
      This is not a pilot, this is an anthropomorphic cyborg (another latest development of KRET). Only shhhhhh ...! wink
  13. 0
    9 September 2015 11: 26
    Thanks to the Americans for their sanctions on the latest technology. The whole world has been working for Washington, in this matter of new technologies, since the post-war period, and without ceasing, and Russia has been able in such a short time, since the crisis of the 90s, not only to catch up, but in some ways to overtake these "partners", and not on the highly publicized embellished technical characteristics, but on real ones. laughing
  14. +1
    9 September 2015 11: 28
    Progress steps. Even a dozen years ago there were no mobile phones with a color display, and now there is a mini-computer telephone. And what will happen in five years?
  15. +2
    9 September 2015 11: 28
    It is time to build such a helmet into the tank.
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    2. 0
      9 September 2015 12: 02
      Quote: iouris
      It is time to build such a helmet into the tank.

      You are absolutely right
  16. +2
    9 September 2015 11: 31
    hmm .... I remember the ever memorable saying of the aviators - "Modern aviation technologies have stepped so far that there is ONE wooden part left in the plane - the pilot's head."
  17. 0
    9 September 2015 11: 42
    But our children from the kindergarten are sitting in a computer and are training on games in such helmets to defeat the enemy.
  18. +3
    9 September 2015 11: 43
    SkyNet rubs his hands :-)
    1. +3
      9 September 2015 12: 13
      Quote: Historian
      SkyNet rubs his hands :-)

      Would you like to say contacts
  19. 0
    9 September 2015 11: 48
    It is necessary that technologies from aviation "flow" into other areas, for example, into armored vehicles. Or equipping an infantryman with a universal sight so that you do not have to carry a bunch of sights on various weapons: machine gun, grenade launcher, etc.
    1. 0
      9 September 2015 12: 08
      Izotov! 11.48. Probably it's already yesterday, hit on the fingers. Better then immediately to the brain-matrix. He brought out the main server and came a furry animal!
      1. 0
        9 September 2015 13: 11
        The implantation of various electronic modules is a matter of today. And the military will not give up the temptation to introduce military personnel, especially at sensitive facilities or missile access permits. I have no doubt that work is going on.
  20. 0
    9 September 2015 11: 57
    Quote: Darkmor
    not really the right device ...

    every detail matters in modern combat
  21. -3
    9 September 2015 12: 02
    these "domestic novelties" "have no analogues in the WORLD" "at lunchtime one hundred years"! wink
    modern rassian kybirnetics - "corrupt imperialism"! wassat
    steal new products, like the Chinese, around the world, then pass off as their ... request
    1. 0
      9 September 2015 13: 22
      You have not yet studied the intersection of cybernetics and mathematics. Perhaps you should go there, there are details on the topic "modern rassey kybirnetika"
    2. +1
      9 September 2015 13: 32
      But nothing that it was in the USSR that they came up with and launched into the series helmet-mounted target indicators?
      1. -2
        9 September 2015 14: 34
        But nothing that it was in the USSR that they came up with and launched into the series helmet-mounted target indicators?

        belay REALLY ... what
        together with Soviet computers ?! laughing
        or computers with software - separately, and helmets with central control - SEPARATELY ?! wink
  22. 0
    9 September 2015 12: 02
    And it will not be like in Adventure electronics: "Urri where is the button?"
  23. 0
    9 September 2015 12: 10
    Why not.
    How long will it take to get to a 6th generation airplane without a pilot that cannot withstand overloads? 20-30-50 years old? No one knows, because there is no stable and secure communication channel between the operator-UAV.
    So let our helmets be made as advanced as the helmets of MiG-29 pilots at one time.
  24. mvg
    0
    9 September 2015 12: 24
    I am confused by "friend or foe" and the story with Belenko, when many things were being altered. And the recent "friendship" between Israel and Turkey, when they also made changes to the software on the planes so that NATO "partners" could "fire" at each other. How much thought it all out, or something (not pick up the word). Will not the adversaries fly to us under "their own"?
    1. +1
      9 September 2015 14: 21
      Do not worry so. All countries change their friend or foe codes every day. And in cases of need at any moment.
  25. +1
    9 September 2015 12: 50
    In principle, such glasses with the function of technical vision are needed on all armored combat vehicles and in other cases when it is necessary to display information for the "user" instead of a large number of all kinds of screens: in airplanes, and in tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, naval combat modules. This will increase the internal space without increasing the external dimensions, facilitate movement control (for mech.-waters), and the functions of observation and aiming. Equipment weight and cost may be reduced. winked
  26. 0
    9 September 2015 13: 02
    Quote: iouris
    What is the only wooden part of the plane.

    Whiner in the discussion of the article, such as "all-Ukrainian-French".
    The tree is oak.
  27. -5
    9 September 2015 13: 06
    Oh well. The army is still Kalash and PM and will not yet be one hundred years old. Any AEK there is complicated, because the soldiers are not distant minds and it does not occur to them that the weapons need to be cleaned. Para 9x19 religion does not allow. So it is here- ZS and Basta. For nefig. Combat pilots do not catch mice either. According to the MO.
    1. 0
      9 September 2015 13: 33
      Quote: Nasty
      soldiers are not distant minds and it doesn’t occur to them that weapons need to be cleaned
      That you slander, how much in vain. Including my boy.
      As for cleaning - no doubt, at every opportunity. It remains only to wish for such an opportunity. And you know, while you clean, a lot of things can happen.
  28. 0
    9 September 2015 13: 25
    No matter how you criticize, this helmet is a great progress for us. It will also be used on the Mi 28NM, and finally, the pilot will be able to control the cannon with his head and see comfortably in the dark. Helmets of a new generation only in Israel, USA, France and Britain. I am glad that Russia has joined this club.
  29. 0
    9 September 2015 14: 40
    But I wonder what color in this helmet will display your own and others?
    We have been taught throughout the near-army life that ours are red, enemies are blue. Now the rascals from the TVs are trying to instill the exact opposite. And what are these developers?