Too many refugees!

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According to the United Nations, Europe is facing the largest influx of refugees in recent decades. In 2015 alone, over 300.000 people tried to cross the Mediterranean. According to forecasts, in 2015-2016. 850.000 refugees will arrive in Europe via the Mediterranean to Europe. The head of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, called for the expansion of quotas for the resettlement of migrants in the EU.



As stated by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, in 2015-2016. 850 thousand refugees can arrive in Europe through the Mediterranean Sea. Reports about it RBC with reference to Reuters.

The Office of the High Commissioner expects that around 400 thousands of refugees will arrive in Europe this year across the Mediterranean, and next year their number could reach 450 thousands or even more.

According to UNHCR spokesman William Spindler, the 2015 forecast for the year is close to fulfillment: the Mediterranean crossed the 366 of thousands of refugees. The UN expects that by the end of the year the flow will decrease: the cold will come, traveling by sea will become dangerous.

The UNHCR website has published a statement by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees Antonio Guterres (http://unhcr.ru/index.php?id=10&tx_ttnews [tt_news ]=513&cHash=62750988d2b23884c878f23999521329).

He notes that the European Union is preparing to hold a series of emergency meetings in order to work out solutions in response to the refugee crisis.

Guterres points out that Europe "has faced the largest influx of refugees in recent decades." In 2015, over 300.000 people tried to cross the Mediterranean, risking their lives. Over 2,6 thousand did not survive the dangerous journey.

Europe failed to develop an effective collective response to the problem. Guterres outlined the main components in the European crisis with migrants.

1. We should not talk about the phenomenon of migration, but about the refugee crisis: most of them come to Greece from conflict zones. The UN High Commissioner for Refugees calls primarily Syria, then Iraq and Afghanistan. These people “run to escape,” he writes. And he adds: "Everyone who is forced to move in these tragic circumstances is entitled to respect for their human rights and dignity, regardless of their legal status."

2. About the reaction of the community: Europe cannot continue to respond to the crisis "scattered and gradually." According to the Commissioner, the EU will have to "fully mobilize in the face of the crisis" and implement a common strategy based on "responsibility, solidarity and trust."

3. Among the necessary decisions, the commissioner lists measures to stabilize the situation and the search for opportunities for sharing responsibility in the medium to long term. And some specifics concerning Hungary, among other things: “The EU should be ready, with the consent and support of interested states, mainly Greece and Hungary, and Italy, to immediately create opportunities for emergency reception, assistance and registration.”

4. Those migrants whose claims for protection at the initial stage will be deemed justified should subsequently be given the opportunity to benefit from a resettlement program with the mandatory participation of EU member states. From here it may be necessary to expand the program to 200.000 places.

5. As for those migrants who “will not be recognized as in need of international protection,” the EU will assist them in returning to their homeland, “with full respect for their human rights”.

6. The Commissioner proposes to solve the issue of smugglers and traffickers through “effective international cooperation”. It is also necessary to expand the "legal ways of arriving in Europe in search of security."

“This is the moment of truth for Europe. This is a time to confirm our commitment to the values ​​on which it was created, ”writes Guterres.

The voice of the UN reached Europe.

The head of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, called for an expanded quota plan for accommodating migrants in most European countries, reports "Voice of America".

According to the plan, Europe can resettle up to 160.000 refugees. Most of them agreed to accept Germany, France and Spain. They are followed by Poland, the Netherlands, Romania, Belgium and Sweden. (Hungary with its fence on the border, we note, is not mentioned.)

According to Mr. Juncker, by expanding quotas, Europe will be able to cope with the influx of migrants.

But his proposals do not all approve. Voice of America notes that Hungary and a number of other European states make sharp objections. It is also known that recently, in June, European leaders rejected the proposal, which provided for the adoption of 40.000 refugees.

On the contrary, Angela Merkel considers Juncker’s new plan “an important first step.”

In addition, German representatives said that Germany expects to accept 2015 refugees in 800.000 year. Vice Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel said that a country could receive half a million refugees a year for several years.

The discussion of the refugee crisis also affected the United States.

UN Special Envoy for International Migration, Peter Sutherland, said the United States and the Gulf states are not doing enough to resolve the migration crisis. They give money to help refugees from Syria and residents of refugee camps in neighboring countries, but this is not enough. Sutherland is convinced that rich countries should receive refugees on their territory. “It’s not enough to pay off the money,” he said.

The above UN forecast for the number of expected refugees is more than 25 times the quota that the EU is counting on. EU states, recalls "Lenta.ru", agreed to accept within two years of the entire 32 thousands of migrants.

"Lenta.ru" with references to the Süddeutsche Zeitung and Focus, it reports that just over the weekend, almost 20 thousands of refugees arrived in Munich. And in the coming days, Bavaria expects 11 more thousands of people: they will arrive from Austria and Hungary.

The publication notes that on September 5, the German authorities allowed refugees from Hungary to enter the country, and the ruling coalition of the Federal Republic of Germany, led by the CDU party, decided to allocate 6 billion euros for the content of the arriving migrants. Chancellor Angela Merkel said more money was needed: 10 billion euros.

But in eastern Germany, frequent attacks on refugee camps. A wave of protests swept through the cities of Saxony, recalls Lenta. People protested against the influx of migrants on the streets, shouting: “Foreigners, get out!” In Heidenau, a rally against the opening of a refugee center turned into clashes with the police. Soothe the city itself was Frau Merkel. She was thrown into the face: “Traitor!” In response, she said that the refugees are the same people, but her crowd booed.

The Norwegian billionaire Petter Stordalen (owns the hotel chain Nordic Choice) showed a different attitude towards migrants: he offered the refugees five thousand overnight stays in hotels. About this rich man said in "Twitter", writes "Lenta.ru".

The businessman said that he was ready to provide rooms for his hotels to migrants who need it, and promised to give them free food. The Norwegian services said they would take advantage of Stordalen’s proposal if there were not enough places in the temporary detention centers in the country.

Of course, we add from ourselves that these are nothing more than temporary measures. No, perhaps, in the world of such a capitalist, who would give all his hotels in the lifelong use of migrants. And I would also give migrants free food.

Alas, in Western Europe, as well as in the United States, there is little thought about the roots of the emerging humanitarian problem. And should think! And at least draw conclusions for the future.

When the White House set up a war in Iraq, the president and his advisers hardly thought about the consequences. When the West later “collectively” supported the “Arab Spring” in Syria and other countries, few in Europe were able to calculate the consequences in the form of hundreds of thousands of refugees who would have to be fed, clothed, provided with housing and maintained for benefits.

Current spending in Germany - 6 billion euros? Little, says Merkel. Need 10! And how much will be then? Twenty? Forty? One hundred billion? Trillion? Who will pay? And will not all the people of Syria or Iraq, or, say, Libya, move to Europe in the end?

Fire wars, which the United States likes to organize for the sake of "democracy" around the world, least of all affects the United States. The UN special envoy for international migration, Peter Sutherland, is right when he says: “It’s not enough to pay off the money.” Let the unfortunate Syrian refugees take the United States! Accept. Let them settle in Washington, right in the house number 1600 on Pennsylvania Avenue. Or in Obama's apartment. Perhaps then politicians in Washington will understand what the support of the “moderate opposition” may lead to.

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  1. +7
    10 September 2015 06: 52
    Eat a large spoonful of nerd. They bombed the entire north of Africa. Set fire to the uprising. They gathered with smiles and agreed on what the sooooo democratic uncle says from overseas. !!! Fuck. !!!! Feed them. Dress. Benefits .... tolerance !!!!

    Of course, for us this will not pass by. Especially for the Kaliningrad region .... and indeed for Russia, the movement of millions of people will certainly not remain an obscure phenomenon.

    But these great intelligent sophisticated establishments from the EU have so encouraged the world and licked the United States ...- that you really want to gloat over them NOT to sympathize !!!!

    1. +9
      10 September 2015 10: 24
      Gaddafi's Curse Comes True The last appeal of Colonel Gaddafi, made by him a few hours before the painful death:
      “Now listen to you, people from NATO! You are bombing a wall that has not blocked the flow of African migration to Europe, a wall that has stopped al-Qaeda terrorists. This wall was Libya. You destroy her. You - and ..... s. For thousands of migrants from Africa, for the support of Al Qaeda, burn in hell for you. And so it will be. I never lie. I’m not lying now. ”(C)
      1. +3
        10 September 2015 12: 27
        puppet Europe got what it was so hard on it was torn by decree of the Western elites, so let it not be surprised now! And the process of the destruction of indigenous nations started a long time ago!
  2. +11
    10 September 2015 07: 08
    When they cut the old man Gaddafi, they shouted "Wow". Here's to you and "Wow" eat to your health!
    1. +9
      10 September 2015 07: 33
      Wow screamed Clinton with her surroundings. So they (Americans) and now quietly, from across the ocean, are watching how Europe begins to choke on the results of support for the United States.
      1. +4
        10 September 2015 08: 27
        About "Wow" it is figurative. I assure you, the Europeans also supported this, right down to ordinary people. And by the way, it was not the Americans who bombed Libya.
        1. +4
          10 September 2015 08: 47
          It is true that it was not the Americans who bombed, but everyone knows how they love to rake the heat with their own hands ... The US military spent about one billion dollars on the revolution in Libya, and secretly helped NATO all - from ammunition to support aircraft. And behind the scenes, the US military played an indispensable role in the Libyan campaign ... And Europe is now following the lead of the United States, I hope they have the intelligence not to fight with Russia ...
          1. +2
            10 September 2015 10: 02
            Americans put a lot of things into it, you just have to think with your own head. You have Africa under your belly (see map) with 1 billion hungry people, have you really not seen the consequences. The United States is far away and they do not care where what is happening.
            1. +1
              10 September 2015 11: 45
              just have to think with your own head

              And when did they think with their own heads? Even calculating the options and realizing that they are at a loss, they still obediently fulfill the "request" of the United States. And, on account of "Wow" I understand you perfectly. I emphasized this to highlight the United States.
  3. +1
    10 September 2015 07: 35
    sorry for the people. fleeing from war and for a better life, but you will not regret everyone. there is nothing for them to pay benefits and give good housing - to feed, warm, resettle in camps or something like that, that’s all, and I’m sure that there would be fewer refugees (any) without this freebie.
    1. +18
      10 September 2015 08: 41
      Quote: denis 60 rus
      sorry for the people. fleeing war and for a better life

      Look who's running. Mostly young people, healthy, strong and far from poor by the standards of the country from which they fled. Something I do not particularly feel sorry for them. They must defend their country, their homeland. Instead, they rushed headlong, and notice, not to Hungary and Bulgaria, but to well-fed Germany, France - exactly where the benefits are fatter. Whether they will work there, I doubt very much that these are more likely social dependents, to whom all around must do something.
      Now remember 1941. Something is not recalled by a bunch of Soviet men fleeing the USSR from the war. But there were crowds at the military registration and enlistment offices with a request to take them to the front. Even teenagers fled to the front to beat the enemy.
      Germany and France will not become the homeland for this whole crowd. It is necessary to love the homeland, and these love a well-fed life and comfort. And for the tidbit they will also sell the society that accepted them and sheltered them. I am not sorry for Europe. Share it with her.
      1. +3
        10 September 2015 09: 43
        I completely agree. These refugees are exactly those people who took an active part in overthrowing and opposing the authorities of their states. This is a product of "Democracy" according to the Western model. These people will not work, they will wait until they wait and eventually simply demand benefits from the states that have sheltered them.
      2. +2
        10 September 2015 11: 47
        Quote: Nord2015
        Now remember 1941. Something is not recalled by a bunch of Soviet men fleeing the USSR from the war. But there were crowds at the military registration and enlistment offices with a request to take them to the front. Even teenagers fled to the front to beat the enemy.

        Sorry, but the example is not correct. in 41m the war was with an external enemy, in the civilian, as millions fled over the hill. And in Syria and Libya there is a civil war, and the same ISIS consists, among other things, of Syrian Sunnis.
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          10 September 2015 20: 04
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          in civilian, millions also fled over the hill


          That's why the Reds won! am

          The crown flew to pieces
          There is no power, no throne.
          Russian life and laws - all to hell!
          And we, as if driven into holes,
          Like caught thieves
          Only blood alone with shame in half.

          And we don’t understand a damn thing -
          With whom to break up and with whom to stay
          who is for us whom to fear
          Where are the ways, where to go - do not understand!
          Where is the spirit? Where is the honor? Where is the shame?
          Where are yours and where are the strangers?
          How did you survive before
          Do we really care about Russia?

          Shame on everyone who cherishes peace
          To everyone whom doubt gnaws
          Maybe he cannot kill.

          The signal! ... both wolf and bull
          And like a kite for prey -
          Only ravens call to feast.

          Hey you! Where is your former hardness
          Where is your former pride?
          Resting today is a meanness!
          The gun is gripped by a steady hand.
          The end, the end. Everything crashed, broken
          We only have a little left -
          Only shoot at the temple or at the enemy.

          (V. Vysotsky)
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    2. -1
      10 September 2015 10: 13
      sorry for the people. fleeing war and for a better life

      Who is sorry? These? Top-notch and. No culture, behavior - as if from a palm tree just got off. I would have opened a paid safari in place of the European government. A child - $ 100, a woman or a man young - 300, and the old people - for free, how much you shoot. I would buy quotas right away. Especially if you look very closely, then the poor and unhappy are not there, and you don’t want to talk about slurred healthy foreheads.
      1. +3
        10 September 2015 10: 42
        Killing children is the lowest that can be in this world, no matter what religion or nationality they are. You are a fat minus from me. Do not be like our neighbors from country 404
        1. +4
          10 September 2015 10: 47
          Killing children is the lowest that can be in this world, no matter what religion or nationality they are.

          Look at the kids from the IG only, I will ask you very much, and then confirm. The world has gone crazy, and the fact that they need to be shot like an animal is not our fault, we did not start.
          1. +2
            10 September 2015 20: 01
            Quote: razgildyay
            Only look at the kids from the IG


            Distort! You were going to shoot the kids not from the IS, but from the refugees, weren't you?

            On the battlefield, it is impossible to spare the enemy because of his young age - you are not him, he is you! But safari is too European, civilized, and we are Scythians, Asians, it’s disgusting for us!
        2. +2
          10 September 2015 16: 04
          There, these "children" are ready to kill our children, and at the same time us.
          I wouldn’t call them people either. The beast.
      2. +2
        10 September 2015 16: 02
        Soon the blackness of such a safari will suit the Gayropeysky Tolerasts.
      3. +2
        10 September 2015 19: 29
        Who is the safari for? Syrian children? I felt like a white bone with a blue blood, I would show you that you are wrong, you have the usual red one.
      4. +1
        10 September 2015 19: 54
        Quote: razgildyay
        would open a safari paid. A child - $ 100, a woman or a man young - 300, and the elderly - free, how much you shoot



        How kind you are! Well, at least, paid, and not vice versa: for the scalp of a child - $ 100, women or men - 300 ... Why be shy! In the bastion of democracy they did! I think they themselves understood that a minus! am
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  4. +6
    10 September 2015 07: 41
    According to the United Nations, Europe is facing the largest influx of refugees in recent decades. In 2015 alone, over 300.000 people tried to cross the Mediterranean. According to forecasts, in 2015-2016. 850.000 refugees will arrive in Europe via the Mediterranean to Europe. The head of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, called for the expansion of quotas for the resettlement of migrants in the EU.
    ... Well, the heart does not break, does not break ... and the tear does not choke ...
  5. +14
    10 September 2015 08: 13
    Up to 70% of refugees are men from 17 to 40 years old, quite a conscript contingent. There are exactly as many women and children as needed for the picture, the behavior of the contingent is mostly extremely challenging. The cost of transportation depending on the route: by land is 3500 to 7500 euros, by sea to Turkey ~ 1500 dollars. The transfer is carried out by non-profit organizations (USA and shaving), through contrabandists where a lot of money is spinning. According to intelligence agencies, some of the refugees are ISIS and the like (future field commanders), and representatives of Equatorial Africa and Eritrea make up a cherry for a cake ~ 30%.
    England does not accept anyone, the main burden on Germany and France, as a result, we have a crowd of lumpen alien culturally and ethnically, under the leadership of militants.
    Conclusion: 1. Unleashing unrest in Europe. 2. Strengthening Nationalist sentiment in Europe (Breivik hero?), Fascists on horseback.
    The United States and its strange elite are trying at all costs to burn their debts in the war and to lower competitors with the subsequent repetition of the situation after the 1st and 2nd world wars. It seems to me something like this.
    1. +1
      10 September 2015 08: 17
      Only you do not agree, and with whom does Europe plan to fight in the next World War? Here is the same. So there’s nothing for us to rejoice and gloat.
    2. +5
      10 September 2015 08: 33
      An IG agent told the British newspaper about the ongoing clandestine operation and noted that thousands of “ready-made IS militants are currently in the European Union.” The IS is allegedly secretly transporting armed militants across the border with Turkey, and from there it sends them further to European countries. In particular, through the Mediterranean Sea they fall into Italy, and then into Sweden, Germany, etc. ..... So in Europe terrorist attacks will begin soon ... And Europe should not think about sanctions against Russia, but how to join forces against ISIS: Without Russia, there will be no peace in BV for a long time ... Strange people, don’t they understand that they only do worse for themselves, why can’t they live together ??? fool
  6. +10
    10 September 2015 08: 14
    How it goes around and responds:
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  9. +4
    10 September 2015 08: 21
    Refugees will enter Europe in the Netherlands:
  10. +6
    10 September 2015 08: 40
    The problem is different - these monkey herds will be on the border with Russia. And then it may be that geyoshlepkiyi, tolerasts in geyrop and in pentosia set these herds on us. For good, I’ll have to forget about tolerance from the large-caliber ..... I just do not want the situation with the NH, as it is now in the gayrop .....
  11. +4
    10 September 2015 08: 48
    "The businessman said he is ready to provide his hotel rooms to migrants who need it, and promised to give them free food. The Norwegian services said they would take advantage of Stordalen's offer." laughing laughing laughing Let's wish the man good luck! Judging by how much rubbish the gentlemen "refugees" leave behind in the cities, how they treat volunteers that they are running headlong to feed them ... Most likely his numbers will become either a living trash heap, or the building will be demolished altogether, but that after 5 thousand nights " refugees "will not voluntarily leave anywhere, it is clear as day! bully And so ... that’s not a pity for Geyrop! Not at all! They drove themselves to the loin! And then they will bow to the mattresses in the legs, and those neighing them dumb! So they conquered Geyropu without war! Get it, sign it! hi
    1. +6
      10 September 2015 09: 30
      It’s true that he’ll let them go ... but how he straightens them, they will raise such a howl (unfortunately this is the only thing they can do well), they will say that they have nowhere to go, and indeed they have more housing it’s more convenient as it is located, let’s say closer to the city center or Metro station ... the police will definitely refuse to help, and decent tourists will refuse to settle in with such neighbors.
  12. +10
    10 September 2015 08: 57
    Australia, too, with its not-so-prime Prime Minister-cretin, has signed up - it receives as many as 12 refugees to please the owner of the White House. In our quiet Adelaide, these black-asses and, as mud, several years ago, they shook off a huge mosque. So you look soon for the construction of the next will take. But at the plants and factories of these newly made citizens of Australia it is not at all visible, they obviously do not seek to work for the benefit of the new homeland.
    1. 0
      10 September 2015 11: 41
      +++++++ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  13. +4
    10 September 2015 09: 17
    Calculations by calculations, but how will Europe then send these refugees back? But they will not leave voluntarily. So ... the berries are ahead. Only this time, I hope Russia will not help Europe.
  14. +2
    10 September 2015 09: 44
    or else it will be ......... let them eat - they themselves did a byak.
  15. +1
    10 September 2015 10: 03
    I highly recommend reading .... a good article, maybe Ukrainians will clean their brains.
    http://politikus.ru/articles/57565-po-motivam-poslednih-sobytiy.html
    1. +1
      10 September 2015 23: 53
      Quote: Egoza
      good article

      More than ... Something already seems to me that not Ukraine is in Evropa, but the old Evropa will begin to break into Ukraine ...
  16. +7
    10 September 2015 10: 08
    There is such a profession - a refugee from the Assad regime.

    All this "resettlement of peoples" is a planned and paid action.
    Well, there cannot be so much cash with so many Syrian refugees four years after the start of the war! How much does relocation cost? From 15-20 thousand euros per person.

    Information has already appeared that refugees receive money at ATMs every day along their route.
  17. +4
    10 September 2015 10: 24
    The American conservative magazine published an article on this topic by the well-known American conservative publicist Patrick Buchanan earlier this week.
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/buchanan/the-eus-immigration-suicide-pact


    /
    I would like to give some quotes from it:
    “Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide,” wrote James Burnham in his 1964 book The Suicide of the West. Burnham predicted that the thoughtless generosity of liberals who subordinate the interests of their peoples and countries to utopian and altruistic urges would bring Western civilization to an end. Let's see what happens in Europe ... The Pope calls on all Catholics to provide asylum to those who seek it, and Angela Merkel is going to receive 800000 people this year alone, despite the fact that the murmur has already begun in Bavaria. But this is only the beginning what will happen if Europe does not raise the drawbridge.
    Tens of thousands of Syrians in the Balkans, Hungary, Austria and Germany - this is only the first wave. Behind them 4 million refugees from the Syrian civil war from Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan. Seeing the success of the first wave, they set in motion. They will be followed by 2 million Alawites and 2 million Christians who will leave Syria when the regime of Bashar al-Assad falls before ISIS and Al-Qaeda terrorists who have already occupied half of the country's bleeding country ... Then the Iraqis living in the country will move, prospects which the union and the world are becoming more illusive. Also among the thousands flowing to Europe from Turkey are Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Afghans. More Afghans will flee to the West when the Americans leave Afghanistan and the Taliban begin to take revenge.
    There are a billion people in Africa, a number that will double by the 2050 year and double again by the 4 billion by the 2100 year. Do billions of Africans intend to eke out a miserable existence under ruthless, incompetent, corrupt and tyrannical regimes, if the European door remains wide open? ... If Europe does not close its borders, which will stop it from being settled by representatives of the Islamic and third world, despite the fact that Is the indigenous population of Europe dying out? Will it be possible to recognize Old Europe by the middle of the century? ... Tens of thousands of migrants who have flooded into Europe and hundreds of thousands and millions following them will make Europeans ask themselves an existential question. Who are we? We are unique and individual people of a certain race and tribe, history and faith, language and culture, recognizable all over the world and is it worthy of all to preserve at the cost of our lives?
    Are we, first of all, Germans, Russians, Poles, Italians, Spaniards and French? Or are we just Europeans, people living on the smallest continent and sharing a belief in the equality of all people and cultures, in secularism and in social democracy?
    With the only exception of the Liberal Man, any other kind of life avoids or counteracts alien species invading its territory. So, in the end, Burnham might have been right.
    Liberalism is the ideology of the West's suicide. "
    1. 0
      10 September 2015 13: 10
      all right. we only live on the largest continent, and there may not be doors in Europe by 2100. like Europe
      1. -1
        10 September 2015 16: 06
        Eka waved, already in the year 100. At this pace and by 30, nothing will remain!
    2. +2
      10 September 2015 16: 57
      Europe needs to pass a law on a fixed fund of social benefits in a certain amount or percentage of the budget. Thus, "specific" benefits per refugee will decrease in proportion to the growth in the number of arrivals. This will lead to the struggle of the already arrived against the new ones.
      In general, all social security should be passed on to the refugees themselves. For example, with the replacement of payments "for bread" by the allocation of a land plot for growing bread.
  18. +6
    10 September 2015 10: 42
    for "alebor RU Today, 10:24"
    I would say ... Liberalism - the ideology of suicide Man of the Sense, as a species ...
    For "Sauron80".
    And where did you see the gloating in my message? Geyropeytsy porridge brew abruptly, and mother will be called upon to disentangle the latitude of sincere Russia. Well, now with ISIS. ... Russia must help ... No, gentlemen! Eat yourself do not hang on! Ah ... an armored train on our siding ...
    1. 0
      10 September 2015 20: 13
      What organization leaflet wink ? After all, moderators will soon be removed, how to give drink ... sad
  19. +9
    10 September 2015 11: 09
    No, gentlemen, yourself! Eat yourself do not hang on! GLADS, I swear. And maybe it’s locked, but ... You have been misrepresented below you ...
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    2. 0
      10 September 2015 21: 16
      On Yap, this stuffing has already been discussed. Where are the proofs, comrades?
  20. +4
    10 September 2015 11: 23
    History is repeated first in the form of tragedy, then in the form of farce. In Europe, apparently forgotten the history of the Roman Empire. The same thing happened there: freedom, a beautiful, tasty life, and other tolerance. And then the barbarians came and how it all ended is well known, especially to those who studied a little at school. Just I can not understand the history of modern Europe, is it a tragedy or a farce.
    1. +3
      10 September 2015 11: 54
      Despite the fact that the same Romans, before their moral decline, bent these barbarians for centuries. And the empire fell, under the blows of the same as horrible armed hordes. Unlike the same Mongols, who crushed half the world, who were the best army at that time, with iron discipline and modern weapons.
      1. +2
        10 September 2015 20: 33
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        Despite the fact that the same Romans, before their moral decline, bent these barbarians for centuries.


        So the Europeans are ... Compare the size of the armies of Cortez - and Montezuma, Pizarro - and Atahualpa. But the then firearms were much worse than the current ones and did not give such mega-advantages in battle. Even 100-150 years ago - read at least Jack London, "Atu them. Atu!" and "Scary Solomon Islands". After WWII, most Europeans were blown away, and after WWII, the rest (the Germans).
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    2. +3
      10 September 2015 20: 21
      Quote: Sargaras
      It all happened the same: freedom, beautiful, tasty life and other tolerance


      You forgot to add: no one wanted to serve in the army, and it was formed under the contract by the same barbarians - and as an additional nishtyak, those who served under the contract received citizenship.

      Before the decisive battle on the Catalun fields, Aetius made a look at his army: Alans, Visigoths, Heruls, Gepids ... And he sees one completely salabon with a clearly civilized appearance: - And who are you?
      Boy, proudly like this: - Roman!
      Aetius burst out laughing:
      - Fuck! Everyone calls me - "the last Roman"! And there are two of us here!
    3. 0
      10 September 2015 20: 21
      Quote: Sargaras
      It all happened the same: freedom, beautiful, tasty life and other tolerance


      You forgot to add: nobody wanted to serve in the army, and it was formed under the contract by the same barbarians - And as an additional nishtyak, those who served under the contract received citizenship.

      Before the decisive battle on the Catalun fields, Aetius made a look at his army: Alans, Visigoths, Heruls, Gepids ... And he sees one completely salabon with a clearly civilized appearance: - And who are you?
      Boy, proudly like this: - Roman!
      Aetius burst out laughing:
      - Fuck! Everyone calls me - "last roman"! And there are two of us here!" laughing
  21. +2
    10 September 2015 12: 18
    I hope the dull old geyropa turns into a hotbed of bloodshed, and chaos fear and hopelessness will be its inevitable companions!
    1. +2
      10 September 2015 13: 09
      For a thousand years, we suffered humiliation from them: Livonians, Poles, Lithuanians, Swedes, Napoleons, Hitlers, the British. Even from the Mongols, we did not endure as much as from them. Enough to endure this part of the world. Crush them with the masses of people, even better Muslims than the Catholic-Protestant hordes!
  22. +1
    10 September 2015 13: 25
    “... The Presidential Council for the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights (HRC) intends to appeal to President Vladimir Putin with a request to give the green light to receive Syrian refugees in Russia, HRC member Maxim Shevchenko told Izvestia. letter. In the near future, it should be approved by the council and sent to the head of state. Shevchenko said that this is primarily about the Syrian Circassians who migrated from the Caucasus at the end of the XNUMXth century. "
    1. +1
      10 September 2015 14: 02
      Only Christians, Shia Muslims and Druze.
  23. +3
    10 September 2015 14: 00
    it’s kind of, the reckoning of Europe for their activities, people flee to the metropolis from the former European colonies, which they robbed for several centuries - the debt is a payment in kind, but the recent wars served as an impetus
  24. +2
    10 September 2015 15: 09
    In the distant past, 9 crusades from Europe, then colonialism? And now, the Eurogays
    terrified! Or else it will be! Hordes of migrants will come, everything is natural!
  25. +4
    10 September 2015 15: 33
    Simple math ... at the beginning of the EU, NATO was booming billions in the form of NATO to fuel war in Africa and the Middle East.
    Now seeking billions to address the issue of migrants and refugees.
    But there is a big BUT ... 100 euros in Europe and 100 euros in Africa are completely different money.
    If for 10 billion euros, at the very least they will be able to equip several hundred thousand in Europe ... then with a competent approach, we can talk about tens of millions of mouths in Africa.
    Only who will give it to them in Africa ... here is specifically the personal interest of those in power in Europe ... income war, care for refugees is even greater income.
    As they say ... to whom the war, and to whom the mother is native.
  26. +3
    10 September 2015 16: 09
    Thousands must be spent on machine guns and ammunition, and they allocate billions to feed the horde. By the way, I also noticed that there are almost only men of combat type.
  27. +2
    10 September 2015 19: 03
    Or maybe everything is planned. After all, the revival of fascism in Europe in this situation would be justified for them, otherwise the economic crisis, at least if they play in tolerance. They, under the pretext of migratory collapse, can simply legitimize fascism. Camps and so on ..
  28. +1
    10 September 2015 22: 47
    No, but what did the Europeans want. First, Ukraine rushed to Europe, and then the blacks in Africa thought, they say, are we worse than these monkeys? They also rushed to Europe.
  29. 0
    10 September 2015 22: 59
    I’m afraid that even if it all ends, all these refugees are unlikely to run back at the same speed to restore infrastructure in their country, to establish a peaceful life, etc. They will rather continue their parasitic existence in Europe, moreover, not assimilating to the local culture, but rather strengthening the communities!
  30. +1
    11 September 2015 00: 15
    Geyropa wanted to catch golden eggs of a pheasant, helping Amers to bomb everyone and everything will get an Islamic Euro Caliphate instead of the EU