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Who in Europe cut off head first, "the refugees - it is a problem of the Germans?"

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Either the EU will develop a mutually acceptable solution for the placement of migrants for all its 28 states, or face the threat of a split, or it will be found that it is necessary to treat not “tops” but “roots”

On Friday, September 4, the heads of the Visegrad Group, the Prime Ministers of Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic, will gather for an extraordinary meeting in Prague. “Politicians again want to reject with one voice the idea of ​​introducing quotas for refugees, on the basis of which they would be distributed among the EU countries more evenly,” reports Radio Praha in this connection. In general, it is possible to say so, although the position of each side has its own nuances.

The Visegrad Group has been inactive since the beginning of the Ukrainian crisis, when there were serious contradictions between its members. Warsaw was active in trying to get Budapest, Bratislava and Prague to join its radical anti-Russian line. Therefore, at some point, it turned out to be easier to freeze the activities of the Quartet, rather than fight off persistent Poles. The resuscitation of the Group took place only now and this time it was not Hungary that had awakened it, but Hungary. Budapest faced a critical situation caused by an unprecedented influx of refugees from the Middle East and Africa, who, although they see Hungary as a transit platform on their way to more prosperous European countries (like Germany, for example), still put enormous pressure on social infrastructure. and stir up xenophobic attitudes in society. According to the Budapest Times, an English-language Hungarian newspaper, in early August the authorities of the capital decided to create special zones where migrants could use basic hygiene and receive medical services. However, the mayor of Budapest, István Tarloš, says that at present the sanitary and epidemiological situation in the streets, underground passages and parks, which exert "increased pressure" on the communal structures and the police force maintaining public order, are causing concern. The mayor expects that the parliament and the government will soon tighten the legislation regulating migration. Given that "the European Union has demonstrated almost complete incompetence in the vision of the problem as a whole," emphasizes the publication.

Some Hungarian politicians speak more openly about the troubles with refugees. So, Janos Lazar, head of the office of Prime Minister Viktor Orban, said in plain language - the Germans are to blame. This statement is made by the influential German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, commenting on the Hungarian Prime Minister’s article “Orban: the problem of refugees is a German problem”. At a meeting with the Speaker of the European Parliament, the head of the Hungarian government noted that migrants are not the concern of the European Union, since "no one wants to stay in Hungary, but they go to Germany." And added a thought to the FAZ. In his opinion, in Europe we are dealing not with the “immigration problem”, but with the threat of “constantly swelling” migration flows. Orban laid the responsibility for this on the European Union, calling the politicians provoking the refugees to think that in Europe they would have a “better life” and therefore they should not stay at home “irresponsible”. That is why the “wall built by the Hungarians” is so important, the prime minister stresses, calling it “depressing” that apart from Budapest and Madrid “no other country wants to protect European borders.” Moreover, says Orban, the majority of immigrants are people raised in a different culture and professing another religion, “they are mostly not Christians, but Muslims,” this is important because “Europe has Christian roots.”

A less radical position is expressed by Slovakia in the person of Prime Minister Robert Fico and Foreign Minister Miroslav Lajcak. Fico needs to recognize that 95% of refugees are economic migrants. Bratislava again protests against the adoption of mandatory quotas for internally displaced persons. “If we don’t start telling the truth about migration, we’ll never budge,” the Slovakian prime minister said. He believes that the steps taken by the European Union to solve the problems of refugees only encourage smugglers and organized crime, which profit from the transfer of internally displaced persons to Europe. In turn, the Slovak Foreign Minister notes that the Schengen zone has de facto collapsed, "it does not work, we have something like anarchy, one of the cornerstones of the EU is shaken to the core." Thousands of people move between European countries, no one checks their documents and visas. Therefore, Laichak argues that Bratislava is not at all a “non-solidary state”, but insists on careful protection of borders, as well as eliminating the causes of migration and smuggling.

The words of a Slovak diplomat are, in particular, a response to the warnings of German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who threatened to revise the Schengen agreement in case “they could not agree on a more equitable distribution of refugees.” Eastern Europe makes it clear that it does not scare her. Against this background, the proposal of the Minister of Internal Affairs of Austria Joachann Mikl-Leitner to restrict the transfer of subsidies to EU members refusing to accept refugees looks like a gesture of despair. The Minister of Finance of the Czech Republic Andrei Babis called it categorically unacceptable. Communicating with journalists, Babish stressed that such a step would lead to problems throughout the EU and called for an immediate summit to be convened to discuss this issue. And, really, if the calls “to feed the Eastern Europeans” would suddenly get institutionalized, what would be left of the European Union?

So the meeting of the Visegrad Group promises to be difficult. It seems that the only one who is able to show “understanding” of the problems of Western Europeans on it will be Poland. Warsaw depends on Berlin's favor with regard to the Polish initiative to strengthen NATO’s eastern flank, and German newspapers have linked Germany’s agreement to this with the adoption of Chancellor Merkel’s migration policy by Poland. Polish Prime Minister Eva Kopach, stating that it is impossible to agree on the introduction of a system of compulsory quotas for refugees, at the same time says that Warsaw “has a moral obligation to take care of” them. Speaking before the activists of the European People's Party, which includes the ruling Polish party Civic Platform, the head of the Cabinet spoke of the need to show a joint position: “We want the EU to be consistent and strong, and against dividing into old and new Europe ... We do not agree with any rhetoric that tries to differentiate the status of EU members ... Poland does not shirk responsibility ... We cannot afford to accept economic migrants. "

However, this is not the case in order to sort out migrants into two grades and reserve the right to choose one of them, pushing the rest into the same Germany, and at the same time oppose the division of EU members into “old and new Europe”. Eastern Europeans, like the entire European Union, face a big challenge. Either the EU will work out a mutually acceptable solution for the placement of migrants for all its 28 states, or face the threat of a split, or it will be found that it is necessary to treat not “tops” but “roots”. The last is war. Because then the Europeans will have to send their armies to the Middle East and Africa and enter into direct clashes with at least the "Islamic State".
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  1. avvg
    avvg 7 September 2015 14: 21 New
    +28
    Negro problems don't bother the sheriff. This "dead cat" is a migratory burden on Germany, America has thrown. The Germans must "thank" America.
    1. marlin1203
      marlin1203 7 September 2015 14: 28 New
      +28
      A new type of hybrid warfare weapon is the migration bomb. The action is slow, but the effect of the lesion is 100%. The video chronicle shows that it’s not women with children and old people who are running, but “men of military age”. Many of them, instead of fighting for their land with ISIS in Syria, prefer to go to Germany and knock themselves out social benefits. Not in our opinion it ...
      1. udincev
        udincev 7 September 2015 14: 38 New
        +7
        Quote: marlin1203
        Many of them, instead of fighting for their land with ISIS in Syria, prefer to go to Germany and get social benefits.
        It seems to me that they are capable of knocking out not only benefits, but also the last sprouts of the brain, with their ("men of military age") motivation and armament ...
      2. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 7 September 2015 14: 49 New
        +13
        Quote: marlin1203
        . The video chronicle shows that it’s not women with children and old people who are running, but “men of military age”.

        This is exactly what a time bomb is! Having settled there, these "men of draft age" will bring their families to their home - and this will be several times higher than the number of refugees who have arrived in Europe now. Then there will be a full paragraph! Europeans are hardly ready for such an influx of migrants, so new arrivals will be refused. And in this case, we represent the reaction of refugees already settled there - the riots in Europe are ensured. America drinks standing! “That is what she sought!”
        1. Now we are free
          Now we are free 7 September 2015 15: 54 New
          +9
          Impressed by the title of the article:
          Who in Europe cut off head first, "the refugees - it is a problem of the Germans?"

          So the song comes to mind (Under "5 minutes")
          -Everyone will die, everyone will die
          Pshek, Germans and Britaanians
          Everyone will die, everyone will die
          You are waiting for you! ..! ..
          1. sovetskyturist
            sovetskyturist 7 September 2015 16: 59 New
            +1
            I don’t know, but today they posted it on Novynky.cz [http://www.novinky.cz/komentare/379867-ocima-sasi-mitrofanova-nedeste

            -se-syranu-ale-nasich.html] translation of an article by Dmitry Bykov [http://www.novayagazeta.ru/columns/69813.html
            Bezhenskoe

            Do not be afraid of the swarthy Libyan, do not be afraid ..... (swag, racist!), But if we think to come to you, then shake ...

            05.09.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX Tags: refugees, emigration, european union






            Do not be afraid of refugees, Europe. The misfortune, of course, is difficult, but you have experienced many troubles since the flood. There were Roman vices, intrigues, the rustle of whispers and the Byzantine lessons, as Tikhon Shevkunov teaches ... How many times have told the world: not all of you are mad with fat - henceforth
            ] this gentleman again scares the people with Russians and reassures about the influx of people. It would be all right, but it’s unlikely that refugees will forget the democratic bombing and other methods of democracy, and there will be a lot of militants. I accumulated here like an eyewitness note is a little blackish, but it seems that the woman who wrote herself from Kazan , was married to a Muslim and the children profess Islam. Although on the vast expanses of the Internet a lot of information walks and who is true and who takes facts from the ceiling, sometimes you don’t get enough. "http: //kpe.com.ua/9-glavnyj-razdel/2236 -chjorn
            aya-sarancha-vt
            orglas-v-evropu.html ........ Why do Europeans dig their own grave?Map refugee location in Germany
            1. 341712
              341712 7 September 2015 23: 20 New
              +4
              Quote: sovetskyturist
              Map refugee location in Germany


              Germany is hostage ... the move is more than gangster ... blackmail from an attempt to leave Russia with China .... Germany is technology)))

              And a smile before bedtime)))))
          2. vladimirw
            vladimirw 8 September 2015 12: 57 New
            0
            if we had our millions of foreign workers from central asia
        2. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 7 September 2015 19: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: SRC P-15
          This is exactly what a time bomb is!

          http://www.mk.ru/politics/2015/09/06/smi-4000-boevikov-igil-pronikli-v-evropu-ka
          k-bezhency.html
          Media: 4000 ISIS fighters infiltrated Europe as refugees
          More than 4 thousand terrorists from ISIS (“Islamic State” - an organization banned in Russia - ed.) Entered the territory of the European Union under the guise of refugees. This was reported by the Sunday Express newspaper with reference to one of the agents in ISIS.
          According to the source of the publication, ISIS fighters get to Europe with the help of Turkish smugglers. They join the ranks of real migrants from Syria and Iraq and are scattered across the countries of the European Union.
          According to an agent in ISIS, some terrorists are sent to the EU to visit their families, others to take part in terrorist operations if necessary.
      3. DanSabaka
        DanSabaka 7 September 2015 15: 05 New
        -43
        And can it help Europe, for European money? Take most of the migrants to yourself. Settle them in Taimyr, Chukotka and on the islands along the NSR. wink We have a catastrophic lack of human resources there, and in Europe there is an excess of migrants and money. Everyone benefits, but Russia also respect with respect ..... bully
        1. gudgeon
          gudgeon 7 September 2015 15: 16 New
          +24
          Quote: DanSabaka
          And can it help Europe, for European money? Take most of the migrants to yourself. Settle them in Taimyr, Chukotka and on the islands along the NSR. wink We have a catastrophic lack of human resources there, and in Europe there is an excess of migrants and money. Everyone benefits, but Russia also respect with respect ..... bully

          Yes! Right! And you have to organize a distribution center for refugees in Zhukovsky! And correct the demography, and from Chukotka - respect with respect ... wink fool
          1. DanSabaka
            DanSabaka 7 September 2015 15: 44 New
            -16
            In Zhukovsky, with demography, thank God, but in the permafrost zone, workers are clearly not enough .....
            1. 341712
              341712 7 September 2015 23: 23 New
              +6
              Quote: DanSabaka
              workers are clearly not enough .....


              And they, directly because of a shovel, will give .... What is not clear here: refugees are going for a FREE !!! not less!! It will be less - they will start to cut ... everything is very good. just...
            2. fiodor
              fiodor 7 September 2015 23: 32 New
              +4
              Quote: DanSabaka

              DanSabaka Today, 15:44 ↑
              In Zhukovsky, with demography, thank God, but in the permafrost zone, workers are clearly not enough.

              Well, what kind of nonsense are you writing and do you really seriously believe that? They go not to work, but to receive benefits and housing for free, and you talk about the north and work, nonsense, you’ll only lure them into a warm free house and have an uninterrupted cash payment, and then they’ll think a hundred times about warm socks so that your fingers don’t freeze, but work . Yes, not in earnest, they must feed them, and even in greenhouse conditions, nonsense in short, lure at least one Arab with his family to the north just a good salary laughing it’s funny to God, you’ll not lure all of us, but here I don’t imagine a Negro at the rig at minus at least 40 laughing
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 7 September 2015 15: 22 New
          +14
          Quote: DanSabaka
          And can it help Europe, for European money? Take most of the migrants to yourself. Settle them in Taimyr, Chukotka and on the islands along the NSR. We have a catastrophic lack of human resources there, and in Europe there is an excess of migrants and money.

          Let's say Europe would be happy to pay and get off. Suppose, ours would not mind the dough in Europe to cut down and send these Arabs to drive polar bears. And maybe Europe would agree, because it hopes that
          The EU will work out a mutually acceptable solution for all of its 28 countries to accommodate migrants
          One snag - the climate is difficult there, you need to work and benefits, like in Germany or the UK, no one will pay. And this categorically not happy with refugees. They don’t go there to work !!!

          I saw on TV how one "refugee" said that they were being driven with sticks in Hungary to receive refugee status, but they did not want to. He said so: "Our goal is Germany, there is a higher standard of living!" They want to receive refugee status there.

          I have already voiced another humanitarian proposal. To provide the Arabs with decommissioned barges (we have this scrap metal - heaps!) And let them blow to America. At least 200 will come there thousands - I'll see who exactly will tear them to pieces - the American fleet on the approaches, the American police and the coast guard at the landing, or the blacks and Mexicans who now occupy the same social niche in America that the Arabs claim - to live on benefits, not to do a damn thing and earn money by robbery.
          1. DanSabaka
            DanSabaka 7 September 2015 15: 42 New
            -5
            They don’t go there to work !!!

            and it’s necessary .... they themselves, rightly, noted
            benefits, as in Germany or the UK, no one will pay.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 7 September 2015 17: 43 New
              +8
              Quote: DanSabaka
              They don’t go there to work !!!

              and have to .... themselves, rightly, noted
              benefits, as in Germany or the UK, no one will pay.

              So, besides work, they still have a lot of income opportunities - benefits, drug trafficking, banditry and robbery - ranging from street to terrorist activities. Incidentally, propaganda is adjacent to the latter - it is also paid well, as the experience of our liberals shows. So they will not work. This is not an army of guest workers. This is an army at best - parasites, at worst - the ground for Islamic fundamentalism and crime.
        3. sovetskyturist
          sovetskyturist 7 September 2015 17: 14 New
          +3
          So Germany is warm and the allowance is like 400 euros, but Russia probably needs to work. I think I must first bring refugees from Ukraine and migrants from the former USSR to the business. Russia did not build democracy in Libya and does not finance militants in Syria now let them reap the benefits their actions, although politicians messed up, and ordinary people will disentangle
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        5. Dikson
          Dikson 7 September 2015 18: 25 New
          +3
          Dan, so start with yourself .. To your parents, for example, invite a couple of families to live. feed them ... you pay them benefits from your taxes .. How much is there per person, 13 euros per year? .. Come on, you are our hospitable ...
        6. shvn
          shvn 7 September 2015 23: 34 New
          +2
          yeah, and in your dacha's heels of niggas warm up, blessed are you ours
      4. tol100v
        tol100v 7 September 2015 15: 16 New
        +6
        Quote: marlin1203
        , and "men of military age."

        These men of draft age, at the expense of European allowances, will promote the Islamic-Islamic ideas to the west. And there will be no Cologne Cathedral, but a Cologne mosque! And the museums of Europe will suffer the fate of Palmyra!
      5. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 7 September 2015 15: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: marlin1203
        Many of them, instead of fighting for their land with ISIS in Syria, prefer to go to Germany and get social benefits. Not in our opinion it ...
        So they in their mass are potential igilovites.
      6. skullcap
        skullcap 7 September 2015 15: 49 New
        +11
        Quote: marlin1203
        A new type of hybrid wars weapon is a migration bomb. The effect is slow, but the effect of defeat is 100%.

        History teaches that teaches nothing.
        All this has been in history already many times.
        I have already given a scheme for the rebirth of the centers of civilization, formulated by Yuri Petukhov and published in some of his books. I quote again ...

        Representatives of other tribes and clans gradually penetrate into a civilized and rich principality city with a more or less homogeneous composition: as slaves, workers used in hard work, servants, warriors, bodyguards, porters, then small and medium traders, criminal and semi-criminal elements ,,,
        Under the walls of the city there are nomadic camps of wild tribes, somehow getting inside ... over time, slaves who received freedom, workers, merchants settle in cities with large families, multiply, warriors reach certain posts in the army or guard, etc. - the percentage of “outsiders” becomes more and more, there comes a period when it reaches “critical mass” - and power passes into the hands of an alien element, which brings its own language, traditions (“nepotism”, “cronyism”, the system of “baksheesh-bribes”, "Fraternity", "clan-mafia", the spread of moral norms, "commandments" only for relatives and the perception of the main indigenous people: a) "cash cow", b) by a hostile tribe, etc.), while preserving part of the cultural achievements absorbed them civilization forcing the remaining inte tual, priestly and administrative circles pervoetnosa perform a new "social order" and to serve the new government, which leads to a revision (revision) of a political, ethnic history, mythology, etc. in favor of the new "ethnos" and its rulers. The history of this “ethnos” is made old by the history of peraoethnos, some of the gods of the old mythology are given new names ...
        The changes are not of a cardinal nature, for the reason that the cultural level of the new “ethnos” is, as a rule, primitive, it has almost nothing of its own to offer in return. Almost everything “new” for the new ethnos is being developed by intellectuals (priests-magi, chroniclers, astronomers, scientists, writers and poets ...) of the primary ethnos, before whom the choice is presented: either to “integrate” into a new society or death.
        The result is a "new culture" in the old place. And the original priority mythology, writing, science, culture is applied a lot of artificial, compilation and "cultural" layers (for example: the original myths of Schumer from the Flood to Shalmanasharr and the compilation "old testament" of Jews from the same flood to Solomon the king). It creates the appearance of a “new civilization”. Over time, the wanderers destroy the inheritance they inherited. –The civilization is fading away.
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      9. skullcap
        skullcap 7 September 2015 15: 54 New
        +2
        Quote: marlin1203
        A new type of hybrid wars weapon is a migration bomb. The effect is slow, but the effect of defeat is 100%.

        History teaches that teaches nothing.
        All this in history has already been many times.
        I have already given a scheme for the rebirth of the centers of civilization, formulated by Yuri Petukhov and published in some of his books. I quote again ...

        Representatives of other tribes and clans gradually penetrate into a civilized and rich principality city with a more or less homogeneous composition: as slaves, workers used in hard work, servants, warriors, bodyguards, porters, then small and medium traders, criminal and semi-criminal elements ,,,
        Under the walls of the city there are nomadic camps of wild tribes, somehow getting inside ... over time, slaves who received freedom, workers, merchants settle in cities with large families, multiply, warriors reach certain posts in the army or guard, etc. - the percentage of “outsiders” becomes more and more, there comes a period when it reaches “critical mass” - and power passes into the hands of an alien element, which brings its own language, traditions (“nepotism”, “cronyism”, the system of “baksheesh-bribes”, "Fraternity", "clan-mafia", the spread of moral norms, "commandments" only for relatives and the perception of the main indigenous people: a) "cash cow", b) by a hostile tribe, etc.), while preserving part of the cultural achievements absorbed them civilization forcing the remaining inte tual, priestly and administrative circles pervoetnosa perform a new "social order" and to serve the new government, which leads to a revision (revision) of a political, ethnic history, mythology, etc. in favor of the new "ethnos" and its rulers. The history of this “ethnos” is made old by the history of peraoethnos, some of the gods of the old mythology are given new names ...
        The changes are not of a cardinal nature, for the reason that the cultural level of the new “ethnos” is, as a rule, primitive, it has almost nothing of its own to offer in return. Almost everything “new” for the new ethnos is being developed by intellectuals (priests-magi, chroniclers, astronomers, scientists, writers and poets ...) of the primary ethnos, before whom the choice is presented: either to “integrate” into a new society or death.
        The result is a "new culture" in the old place. And the original priority mythology, writing, science, culture is applied a lot of artificial, compilation and "cultural" layers (for example: the original myths of Schumer from the Flood to Shalmanasharr and the compilation "old testament" of Jews from the same flood to Solomon the king). It creates the appearance of a “new civilization”. Over time, the wanderers destroy the inheritance they inherited. –The civilization is fading away.
      10. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 7 September 2015 16: 55 New
        0
        Migrants say so well-funded and instructed. In addition, they give money to the EU, but it is dangerous in Syria. Due to instability in the EU, the money will trample in the United States, which is very good for the states. Someone else is spreading instability all over the world (the United States is the only executor of the plans of these forces), changing the moral and value orientations in the world, ruining families, imposing debauchery and pederasty. and adopted a single world ruler. There is a hindrance, Russia and China, where so far it has not been possible to blow up the situation. Therefore, the pressure on us will only increase.
      11. Denis 60 rus
        Denis 60 rus 7 September 2015 19: 02 New
        +1
        I also think that this is not our opinion, but many Ukrainians have a completely different opinion.
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    2. papas-57
      papas-57 7 September 2015 14: 57 New
      +5
      Personally, I think that this “problem” with migrants was created and financed by the Americans. The geyropa started kicking with sanctions against Russia, squinting at the overseas lord, therefore, to create and maintain chaos in Europe, Americans throw up problems with migrants. Then they will help with their candy wrappers and Europe will shut up again. But it will begin to cobble, migrants with the help of American money will create problems for Europe that the previous ones seem like childish amusements.
      1. region58
        region58 7 September 2015 15: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: papas-57
        Personally, I think that this “problem” with migrants was created and financed by the Americans.

        I admit that we could also hint at them, they say they bombed your houses - well, go and live with them ...
        1. Mahmut
          Mahmut 7 September 2015 18: 25 New
          0
          they say they bombed your houses - well, and go to live with them ...

          The most interesting thing is that they understood the hint. But European politicians are completely lacking causal thinking.
        2. Belousov
          Belousov 8 September 2015 10: 01 New
          0
          Ours is still more profitable economically strong Europe, we have many business contacts. But it’s just more profitable for staff members to ruin everything, then the capital will go to the USA, respectively, the green need will be supported. Markets for American goods will also be freed.
        3. Belousov
          Belousov 8 September 2015 10: 01 New
          0
          Ours is still more profitable economically strong Europe, we have many business contacts. But it’s just more profitable for staff members to ruin everything, then the capital will go to the USA, respectively, the green need will be supported. Markets for American goods will also be freed.
      2. gudgeon
        gudgeon 7 September 2015 16: 03 New
        +4
        Quote: papas-57
        Personally, I think that this “problem” with migrants was created and financed by the Americans. The geyropa started kicking with sanctions against Russia, squinting at the overseas lord, therefore, to create and maintain chaos in Europe, Americans throw up problems with migrants.

        The problem with migrants in Europe arose certainly long before the sanctions. And the Europeans themselves finance it, giving citizens, housing, benefits and cultivating tolerance to all refugees in a row.
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    4. shvn
      shvn 7 September 2015 23: 31 New
      +1
      and the Fuli do not thank the occupiers ... 70 years dryuchut nemchuru as they want pindy
  2. Eugene-Eugene
    Eugene-Eugene 7 September 2015 14: 24 New
    +1
    treat should not "tops" and "roots"

    So they treat the “roots”: in the conditions of an economic downturn, the standard of living will decrease, which means the protest movement will increase, labor productivity will fall, and the army of “slaves” (in the words of Marie Le Pen) will be pleased with low wages.
    1. udincev
      udincev 7 September 2015 14: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: Eugene-Eugene
      and the army of new "slaves" (as Marie Le Pen put it) will be glad of low salaries.
      ... or will be glad to squeeze the owners in the use of jointly produced goods.
      1. Eugene-Eugene
        Eugene-Eugene 7 September 2015 14: 53 New
        0
        Well, sooner or later you will have to work. Besides, I do not think that all migrants without exception dream about the life of the lumpen. For the most part, wealthy people move there (by the standards of their homeland), if only for the reason that you cannot reach Europe with two dollars in your pocket. So they lived a full working life. Another thing is that engineers and other experts are unlikely to be in demand in Europe, it will be necessary to get a low-skilled job. But it is unlikely that they in their bulk will sit on their hands and wait for handouts from the state and volunteers.
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 7 September 2015 15: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Eugene-Eugene
      (as Marie Le Pen put it)

      Would you elaborate on the words of Marine Le Pen or her dad Jean-Marie Le Pen ?!
  3. Wolka
    Wolka 7 September 2015 14: 24 New
    +15
    and I don’t feel sorry for the swaggering Europe,
    1. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 7 September 2015 22: 07 New
      +4
      Quote: Volka
      and I don’t feel sorry for the swaggering Europe,

      and who feel sorry for her? by the way, these Visegrad marginal losers will again whine that locust hordes of Negro-Arabs need to be redistributed to Russia, remember, guys, these creeps have already begun.
  4. ASUR
    ASUR 7 September 2015 14: 25 New
    +4
    Europe simply does not understand that she opened the Pandorv box
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 7 September 2015 14: 30 New
      +7
      Let the Europeans pay for the destruction of Libya, for the war in Syria and for sanctions against our country, for the fact that they do not want to think with their own heads and are following the US and the Israeli regime.
  5. Thomas
    Thomas 7 September 2015 14: 30 New
    +26
    Post - in the subject.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 7 September 2015 14: 35 New
      +4
      Vo-in and the Jews the influx of refugees into Europe is very useful soon the eternal dream of the Zionists will come true and all Jews will be "thrown" from prosperous Europe to the land of Israel, so they will be glad lol
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 7 September 2015 14: 39 New
      +16
      Field commander of Syrian fighters Laih Al Saleh. Syria on the left, Greece on the right.

      And he is clearly not going to sit in Greece ...
      1. flSergius
        flSergius 7 September 2015 14: 50 New
        0
        And how is the inscription on the T-shirt in the subject good smile
    3. sever.56
      sever.56 7 September 2015 14: 51 New
      +2
      - Do you have mosques in your country?
      - No...
      - Will be soon!!!
  6. ROMAN VYSOTSKY
    ROMAN VYSOTSKY 7 September 2015 14: 32 New
    +5
    Europeans and Americans have been picking the hive with sticks for decades, and now that the bees have arrived, they are trying to brush their handkerchief away. They ate the honey, the bees stayed. There is no hive. Bees will stand new, but in a different place. You can’t argue against nature. Dialectics, however.
  7. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 7 September 2015 14: 32 New
    +5
    It seems that the only one who is able to show an “understanding” of the problems of Western Europeans on it will be Poland

    That's for sure. And as always, an attempt to shift the solution of the problem to others.
    Polish authorities called on Moscow to help with the refugee situation.

    - It seems to me that this is not only a problem of the European Union, it is also a problem of Russia. What is happening in North Africa, that people are fleeing and seeking other countries due to conflicts, is our common problem. Readiness for dialogue and mutual understanding is important. I think that Russia, too, maybe not so many people, but refugees from Syria also come. Russia is also a country that could accept such refugees, said Katarzyna Pelczynska-Nalencz, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Republic of Poland to the Russian Federation.

    Honestly, I don’t feel sorry for all EU countries in this regard, including Hungary, Slovakia, the Czech Republic .... They are members of the EU, they are members of NATO. So they participated in collective decisions that led to this mess.
    Well, now, as in the film of the 90s “Oysters from Lausanne” Pankratov-Cherny said: “Now let them sit and think .... how much income tax will be charged on them” wassat
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 7 September 2015 18: 31 New
      +1
      Shit in the pies Katarzyna does not want to try? I look like that — in a couple of years, some people in Eastern Europe will begin to remember the Warsaw Pact, when they begin to be cut, like sheep on a holiday ..
      1. Aleksandr1959
        Aleksandr1959 7 September 2015 23: 12 New
        +2
        Germans from the eastern regions of Germany (the former German Democratic Republic) last year enjoyed a very popular T-shirt with the inscription (approximate translation): "Give me back my Berlin Wall, only two meters higher!" wassat
        And this is not a joke, but a real case.
        It seems that the wall will soon be asked by many EU residents around the perimeter.
  8. Same lech
    Same lech 7 September 2015 14: 33 New
    +5
    Who in Europe cut off head first, "the refugees - it is a problem of the Germans?"


    Well, it seems that this could soon become a problem for the whole of EUROPE ....

    it seems that these Europeans have completely lost their minds .... minnows and pikes will now live in one aquarium ... who is the first to eat who is interested.
  9. kil 31
    kil 31 7 September 2015 14: 35 New
    +5
    I care about something else. Now, without knowing the West, it is working for us with its propaganda. We are paupers in our tyranny, why go from one tyrant to another. But in the press they are pros. In five minutes they can turn over (when they understand) that we can live in such a way that the Amer’s dream will envy. We will have to hold the front, and the eureka will laugh. You have to think about it.
    1. Vitaly72
      Vitaly72 7 September 2015 22: 11 New
      0
      From the screw to them! they don’t work, but they go for benefits, they’ll break off with us
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 September 2015 14: 36 New
    +6
    Polish Prime Minister Eva Kopacz

    By the way, this lady has already stated that Russia needs to take an active part in the reception of refugees (which the EU has created). In such matters, Poland is not much different from Ukraine (it is not in vain that it has been ripped off for so many years). The same desire for a freebie and at someone else's expense to get into the lords.
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 7 September 2015 15: 26 New
      +2
      Thank! We have enough Tajiks. Let Europe keep these migrants and feed them at its own expense, and not at ours!
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 7 September 2015 15: 44 New
      0
      we accept from Ukraine, more than Europe, black negro. Well, the fact that this is taken by the Slavs does not bother anyone. Refugees are refugees)
  11. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 7 September 2015 14: 41 New
    +36
    Gaddafi was right
    1. K-50
      K-50 7 September 2015 19: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: treble 72019
      Gaddafi was right

      Prophetic words!
      So be it to these "democracies"! good
    2. Nosgoth
      Nosgoth 8 September 2015 16: 04 New
      0
      It is a pity for a man, BUT ... Gaddafi was a fool, to begin a demarche against the hegemony of the United States without any reliable rear and backup plans ... a naive fool.
  12. Alexnder
    Alexnder 7 September 2015 14: 43 New
    +2
    But indeed, a huge number of men (and in these cultures it is not customary to abandon families). By chance?!
    And suddenly one day, in the press, on TV, on the Internet, a call for unrest appears. Maybe?
    What will happen to Europe in this case?
    Nightmare.....
    1. halzan7
      halzan7 7 September 2015 15: 40 New
      +3
      "Varfalomeevskaya night" is just a bedtime story for a baby. am
    2. Estray_
      Estray_ 7 September 2015 15: 51 New
      +1
      It is no coincidence that after settling in a new place, they pull up the weaker and older relatives.
  13. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 7 September 2015 14: 44 New
    +5
    Sooner or later, migrants will have to be hired - there will not be enough euro to feed them.
    They can be arranged only for unskilled labor - seasonal agricultural workers, nannies, general laborers.
    That is, to those places that are now occupied by immigrants from Eastern Europe, the Baltic states and Ukraine.
    It will be necessary to massively refuse East European labor visas.
    In the countries of Eastern Europe, the Baltic states and Ukraine, unemployed people will begin to accumulate, who were thrown out in the cold for the sake of providing blacks and Arabs.
    What will happen in these countries - I’m even afraid to imagine ...
    1. Onotollah
      Onotollah 7 September 2015 15: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: Dr. Barmaley
      Sooner or later migrants will have to find a job

      Yes, yes, the Germans really know a lot about job placement.
      Oh, I feel they will bring the burghers to white heat.
    2. Bvg132
      Bvg132 7 September 2015 15: 57 New
      +2
      And who told you that they go and go to Europe to work? They will receive benefits and do not hit a finger, they will create their enclaves throughout Europe. Another bombing in Africa or the Middle East about those ISIS fighters who have already broken through to Europe will still add a lot of militants. Oh, and then Europe will learn all the tolerance
  14. Editor
    Editor 7 September 2015 14: 45 New
    +3
    and it’s good that Ukraine and the Baltic states decided to build a fence along the borders in Russia. will help Russia restrain the new Europeans from the influx of us ...
  15. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 7 September 2015 14: 48 New
    +2
    How to pull the roots?
    1) The EU brought one democracy in the form of bombing and killings in the Middle East,
    2) the EU left itself another democracy: in the form of a comfortable, quiet, prosperous life,
    but BV considered the export version of democracy inappropriate and decided to abandon the original version, while the Arabs seem to understand that there are three democracies in the EU,
    3) there is another kind of democracy where people do not die of hunger, but they don’t live normally, for Eastern Europe, where refugees do not aspire, transit these countries.
    If the Arabs understand that Europe has lowered them with democracy, they can very well explain this to the EU.
  16. flSergius
    flSergius 7 September 2015 14: 49 New
    +1
    “We want the EU to be consistent and strong, and against dividing into old and new Europe ... We do not agree with any rhetoric that tries to differentiate the status of EU members ... Poland does not shy away from responsibility ... We cannot allow ourselves to accept economic migrants”


    These are really friends and brothers to the Zapadents. Immediately remembered "aggressor give a discount!".
  17. BOB044
    BOB044 7 September 2015 14: 49 New
    +3
    Frau Merkel is very glad that all the flags of Africa and the Arab East are visiting Germany.
    1. 31R-US
      31R-US 7 September 2015 16: 25 New
      +1
      But what’s fine, let the “tourists” familiarize themselves with the sights of Germany, I personally recommended visiting a clean and tidy town in Freiburg laughing wassatyou see candy wrappers from candies "Roshen" appear on the streets.
  18. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 7 September 2015 14: 51 New
    +4
    By the way, migrants also found a very good way through Russia. They get a Russian visa in Lebanon, fly from Beirut to Moscow. Then a steam train to Murmansk .... and a direct train to Norway. At the same time, our FSB controls that they do not turn anywhere on the road to the Norwegian border ... wassat
    As the "refugees" who have already traveled this way wrote, it turned out to be cheaper and safer.
  19. akudr48
    akudr48 7 September 2015 14: 55 New
    +5
    A society of equal opportunities, a melting pot of nations, real democracy, a shining palace on a hill, there is no Jew or Hellen, and with other fairy tales America fooled the rest of the world on the topic of how to reconcile the rich with the poor.

    Now, thanks to the United States and the united Europe, I got my melting pot, but they won’t get anything from this kitchen appliance. It turns out, flies separately, cutlets separately.

    Accustomed to people from Turkey, Albania, from the Arab countries, as well as Bulgaria, Poland, etc. for a modest fee to put on maintenance work (and the German at this time will think), so they hope to continue to ride.

    Apparently, not a ride.

    In Russia, the picture of the same colors, however, has not yet been so striking, because tolerance is taught in the lower grades of the school.

    But the dynamics and results of such demographics will be similar, even we have a worse one. Maybe they will hear more
    Russian people said the famous phrase "come here" ...

    If the country does not take care of its interests, and not a handful of crooks with the billion that are now involved in the country.
  20. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 7 September 2015 15: 00 New
    +1
    It was necessary to turn on the brains (at the time) at a time when the Americans provoked the "Arab spring" and what the consequences of the same Europe threatened. The boomerang principle worked. Will reach and chaos chief, although not immediately, but much more painful and destructive ...
  21. atamankko
    atamankko 7 September 2015 15: 10 New
    0
    EU authorities just need to think before
    than making decisions dictated by the USA.
  22. SPB 1221
    SPB 1221 7 September 2015 15: 12 New
    +6
    Russia needs, Russia needs, we want Russia to be tired of reading these words that come from the EU. But it seems to me that we should send the EU to hell, especially Poland with its Eva Kopach. We don’t owe anything to anyone, we need to build our own house and not help the gavnyaks from Europe who are shaving on our doorstep.
  23. Oznob
    Oznob 7 September 2015 15: 13 New
    +2
    America sets fire to the Islamic world - flows of migrants to the EU.
    America introduces sanctions against the Russian Federation - trade between the EU and the Russian Federation is falling.
    America provokes Ukrainians to Russophobia-the EU suffers from gas blackmail of Ukraine.
    Coincidence? I do not think so!
    1. w3554152
      w3554152 7 September 2015 23: 10 New
      +1
      There is a struggle of the Russian world with the Anglo-Saxons for Europe. If we do not get into Amer’s traps, we will save Russia. And we will save Russia, we will save Europe from the destruction of the Islamic tsunami.
  24. roskot
    roskot 7 September 2015 15: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: Volka
    and I don’t feel sorry for the swaggering Europe,



    Do they pity us? So let it slurp what you have done. Maybe arrogance will decrease.
  25. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 7 September 2015 15: 16 New
    +2
    Unbelievable, but true - Wang’s predictions are gradually coming true.
    The fact that a fox creeps up to a geyrop is clear as God's day.
    And the Germans are ashamed - the nation is morally and physically omitted. Ugh!

    I feel such a development of events - chaos and conflict in the geyropa, the same thing in geymerik. The “old woman” and the “gopnik” are busy with internal problems ... The external ones lack neither funds nor forces. Amer’s presence in many countries ends ... Bases are evacuated ...
    Meanwhile, China and Russia, while no one is bothering them, are becoming the world's leading powers.
  26. sisa29
    sisa29 7 September 2015 15: 24 New
    +6
    Quote: DanSabaka
    And can it help Europe, for European money? Take most of the migrants to yourself. Settle them in Taimyr, Chukotka and on the islands along the NSR. wink We have a catastrophic lack of human resources there, and in Europe there is an excess of migrants and money. Everyone benefits, but Russia also respect with respect ..... bully

    Dear, they do not go to work but for a good life and benefits. They will not reach Taimyr but will settle in Moscow. AND IT IS NECESSARY?
  27. 2nd 12th
    2nd 12th 7 September 2015 15: 34 New
    0
    If emigrants rush to Ukraine (This is tse Europa) in large numbers - Russia will not be very good from this. God grant that this would not be.
    1. region58
      region58 7 September 2015 15: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: 2-th12-th
      If emigrants rush to Ukraine (This is tse Europa)

      Something I didn’t hear so that in Ukraine refugees, even mine, would receive a benefit. And what for them to flee from their war to another’s war ...
    2. Bvg132
      Bvg132 7 September 2015 16: 00 New
      +2
      You, what do they think dumber Khokhlov? From under the shelling to run under the shelling !!!
  28. halzan7
    halzan7 7 September 2015 15: 44 New
    +1
    even it seems to me that entot mess is somehow connected with the euro to the dollar !!!!!!!!!!!!!! repeat
  29. RiverVV
    RiverVV 7 September 2015 15: 49 New
    +3
    At one time, at the beginning of the Civil War, the northern army was faced with a serious lack of recruits. Well, after the first defeats, no one wanted to go to war with the southerners. Entered a call. All the same, there isn’t enough (it was quite legitimate to pay off the draft). And then in the Northern States simplified the procedure for obtaining citizenship.

    There was famine in Ireland at that time. The Irish threw themselves into America. Directly at customs, they were offered to sign an application for citizenship, and as soon as a person signed it, he received a summons along with citizenship. Everything ingenious is simple.
  30. soratnik
    soratnik 7 September 2015 15: 56 New
    -3
    How masterfully the United States put Europe and Russia in the “laundress position”. Which of these European downs would have thought that by assisting the United States in the destruction of the states of North Africa and the Middle East, they themselves planted an Arab pig. Only the Ukrainian USA planted the same pig for us. While our "Kremlin slave craps on the galleys" and smugly admired the views of the Olympic Sochi, the Americans were busy! They carefully, meticulously prepared a coup d'etat in Ukraine. Now this territory will be hostile to us for several generations. And now the United States will reap the benefits of its foresight and clear calculation. Now the United States has taken up China. They will not face the big Chinese themselves, but like in the Middle East and Europe they used the countries of NATO and the European Union they will pull up their slaves - South Korea and Japan. And if someone says that the United States is losing influence in the world, then this is certainly wonderful fun. If someone says that this is an aggressive policy, then on the other hand it is ensuring national interests, maintaining the growth of their economy (even to the detriment of others) and maintaining a high standard of living for their citizens. I wonder what surprise the US is preparing for us at the World Cup. I think the coup d'etat in Cuba. And Putin has already helped them a lot by forgiving $ 30 billion to our people's cube. Now, without debt, this island is ready for use for its intended purpose, namely for the occupation by US Marines. Why not. And before that, they will hold a referendum and the people who have been starving for 50 years will be happy to go under the US protectorate. This is how world politics is done, and rubbing snot in the face and crying that we are not loved in Europe is the lot of wimps. You just have to do business. And this team, which is in power in Russia, was courted both in foreign policy and showed a complete inability to lead the country. Why don’t take everywhere in the dry residue a piece of shit. Education and medicine have collapsed, the economy has not been created, etc ....
  31. Evgtan
    Evgtan 7 September 2015 15: 58 New
    +1
    The best thing France can do with the Mistrals that are not delivered to Russia is to use them for their intended purpose: to load migrants, and to drop them there, in the most democratic and peace-loving country ...
  32. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 7 September 2015 16: 03 New
    +1
    I read all the comments ... the mood has already risen ... easy mood ... and of course I was glad for the Europeans to pay the bills ...!
  33. provincial
    provincial 7 September 2015 16: 19 New
    0
    The EU, under the strict guidance of the United States, has opened the hive {Arab countries}, now let them eat honey.
  34. Intrudeude
    Intrudeude 7 September 2015 16: 37 New
    +1
    Share. Before you do anything, you need to think about the consequences ... the French Air Force pilots were the first to drop aerial bombs on Libya, the Germans and the other "civilized world" noted in the BV ... so that "love the medals, love and chill" ... and we have to strengthen the borders.
    Z.Y. there, some are asking to join the EU ... they need to throw a couple of hundreds of thousands of migrants ... so that not only in word, but in deed they will justify their ".... CE Europe" ...
  35. Awaz
    Awaz 7 September 2015 16: 44 New
    +2
    no matter how we are laughing at the EU, which ISIS is quietly occupying, but unfortunately we will get it. The problem of Germany, France and England, where the main stream of refugees is directed, is that they themselves nurtured all this. The authorities of these countries have long been quite loyal to the influx of Africans and Arabs. Even the same Ukrainians, very, very disliked to be accepted as refugees and "dark-skinned" take indiscriminately. Remember, most recently, even EU citizens (the Balts who) really, really did not like what was in Europe, what on the island. I don’t know what this is connected with, but most likely this is some sort of coordinated action. And I doubt that this is the work of Americans. Probably all the same, Europe needs fresh slaves. Although I strongly doubt that they will be able to get this whole shobla to work. But the option to use them as cannon fodder is very large. It’s clear to fight with Russia. We also have poorly arranged borders in Asia and, having heard, crowds can stretch across our territory. It is likely that part may settle with us. Although unlikely. Migrants poorly go to Russia to work poorly. There are no benefits here.
  36. screw cutter
    screw cutter 7 September 2015 16: 57 New
    +1
    But it’s necessary like D. Gol, but not the bucks, but the refugees. To bring everyone to America.
  37. fsps
    fsps 7 September 2015 17: 29 New
    +2
    The options are, of course, amusing: either the European caliphate, or Hitler. The rest is Manilovism. Millions of hungry parasites who do not want to work and are unfit, but they know very well who, what and how much they owe them, and they do not just like that, but bring the light of sacred truth. And who doesn’t know, “human rights activists” and a similar audience will immediately come running, and not only the European one. However, we would have to sort out our own.
  38. Gypsy girl
    Gypsy girl 7 September 2015 18: 24 New
    0
    Geyropa played out ...
  39. kotyara
    kotyara 7 September 2015 19: 26 New
    0
    Considering that ISIS militants came to Germany along with migrants, whose account was no longer even hundreds, then everything is very serious for Germany!
  40. Stranger
    Stranger 7 September 2015 19: 29 New
    +5
    I’ve been in Germany since 2001, the Turks worked and work here, the Negroes wash floors and toilets. The Arabs mainly sell sitting on social allowance and children's money. everyone remembers that they will not work
  41. Thor
    Thor 7 September 2015 22: 26 New
    +1
    In fact, the more “extreme” version of our “labor” migrants from Asia can only be sympathized with ordinary, native Europeans, who will soon feel the effect of “democratic tolerant” values ​​from the leadership of their countries!
  42. Mister22408
    Mister22408 8 September 2015 02: 36 New
    0
    Pick up an ax and do it yourself! they say that the locals knew how to do this, and who are you?
  43. Belousov
    Belousov 8 September 2015 10: 11 New
    0
    We stock up on popcorn, close the door more tightly and admire the window that will happen to the geyropa.
  44. INF
    INF 8 September 2015 14: 07 New
    0
    Quote: DanSabaka
    And can it help Europe, for European money? Take most of the migrants to yourself. Settle them in Taimyr, Chukotka and on the islands along the NSR. wink We have a catastrophic lack of human resources there, and in Europe there is an excess of migrants and money. Everyone benefits, but Russia also respect with respect ..... bully


    Marry yourself, adopt children, start small ...
  45. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 9 September 2015 07: 02 New
    0
    give Muslim Germany! Aryan correct)))))) let America say thanks))))