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Dutch investigators decided to return to Donbass for fragments of the Malaysian "Boeing"

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On the eve of the representatives of the investigative commission investigating the collapse of the Malaysian "Boeing" near Donetsk, expressed the need to arrive at the crash site, to "collect things and debris." As the Dutch Ambassador to Ukraine Case Jan Rene Klompenhauver reported, locals continue to find fragments of a crashed airliner, as well as personal belongings of its passengers, near the village of Hrabovo. At the same time, according to the Dutch ambassador, "basic some of the materials collected last year. "


Dutch investigators decided to return to Donbass for fragments of the Malaysian "Boeing"


Information Agency Interfax meanwhile, cites information that since primary parts of the materials ”by Dutch specialists, local residents at the MH-17 crash site collected several tons of aircraft wreckage and personal belongings of the Boeing passengers, which the truck body was filled to the top.

According to the head of the administration of the rural settlement, there are still a very large number of fragments of an airliner on the field near Hrabovo, and “such a procedure” (collecting debris and personal belongings in tons) “will have to be repeated every three months.”

However, for the commission of inquiry from the Netherlands tons of wreckage of the liner and personal belongings of the passengers of the aircraft, apparently, do not represent a special investigative interest, otherwise all these materials would have been in the hangars for conducting research last year. This is understandable, because the perpetrators have already been appointed, and new material evidence may violate the system of fraud and concealment of the facts carefully built by the West ...
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  1. Genych
    Genych 6 September 2015 07: 52 New
    +27
    Yeah, on the third day the Vigilant Falcon noticed that there was no 4th wall. winked
    1. Mahmut
      Mahmut 6 September 2015 07: 59 New
      +15
      Dutch investigators decided to return to Donbass for fragments of the Malaysian "Boeing"

      In terms of psychiatry, this is deja vu.
      1. Alexander_
        Alexander_ 6 September 2015 08: 08 New
        +5
        This is to hide the remaining evidence against the junta.
        1. sandrmur76
          sandrmur76 6 September 2015 11: 10 New
          +2
          Criminals pulled to the crime scene belay And they are they, because they contribute to the concealment of facts and do not want to reveal the truth. Then let them go to buy metal immediately. wassatIt infuriates how a bunch of freaks flock over ordinary people. Better let them sunbathe after sunset!
      2. Момент
        Момент 6 September 2015 08: 11 New
        +6
        They will again look for a Russian trace at the crash site or come to throw up the "facts", and then proudly find them. Moreover, shouting to the whole world that they did not see .... Accidentally spare parts from the Buk will not be thrown up, because the "authoritative" commission from Holland can be "trusted"
        1. kot28.ru
          kot28.ru 6 September 2015 08: 31 New
          +3
          Maybe it's easier, the Dutch are flying for hemp lol , season, however! And they don’t care about Boeing! hiAnd the grass in ukrov, judging by their inadequate behavior, wow what a zaboristaya!
        2. papas-57
          papas-57 6 September 2015 09: 20 New
          +4
          And they will find the debris of Beech with fingerprints of Putin and Shoigu
        3. Comrade Bender
          Comrade Bender 6 September 2015 13: 50 New
          +1
          It’s just that Danila the master doesn’t have a “stone flower.” It’s time to announce the results, but they aren’t reasonable from the point of view of Russia’s accusation. And the additional collection of the remaining fragments is an official reason to take some more time. You look and figure out what their thinking.
          1. Locksmith
            Locksmith 6 September 2015 16: 29 New
            +1
            Quote: Comrade Bender
            Danila-master doesn’t get a stone flower

            Far his mistress of the Copper Mountain stuck in the ass wassat
      3. demon1978
        demon1978 6 September 2015 13: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: Mahmut
        In terms of psychiatry, this is deja vu.


        And from a legal point of view - a reason for delaying the investigation yes Another year they will sort through the garbage, and then again say- "He fell !!! But in order to find out why, you need to conduct not an investigation, but a spiritualistic session !!!!" request
      4. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 6 September 2015 15: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: Mahmut
        special investigative interest, otherwise all these materials would be


        This once again "let them go." In vain they experiment with synthetics. In vain. Would smoke natural, would be healthier.
      5. Borets
        Borets 7 September 2015 10: 13 New
        0
        I think they again want to find there fragments of a Russian rocket or something else like that.
    2. saniajan
      saniajan 6 September 2015 08: 38 New
      +4
      that in the West they know how well, it’s a “fool to turn on”, they piss off the truth
    3. Finches
      Finches 6 September 2015 09: 41 New
      +9
      Time is running out! Apparently 100% of the evidence that the militia was not able to get the fault and the fabrication failed, so we decided to drag out the investigation process, I think for more than one year, according to the principle of Khoja Nasreddin: "In 20 years, either the shah will die, or the donkey will die, or I will die!"
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 6 September 2015 10: 09 New
        +4
        According to the head of the administration of the rural settlement, a very large number of fragments of the airliner remain on the field near Grabovo, and “such a procedure” (collecting debris and personal belongings in tons) “will have to be repeated every three months".

        And after nine months, the Dutch will finally be born and announce the result of the investigation? And if they, like elephants, have been going “pregnant” with investigations for the whole 22 months, then when, in this case, will the results be announced to us? negative
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 6 September 2015 11: 08 New
          +1
          Quote: SRC P-15
          then when, in this case, the results will be announced to us?



          Then, when these results will be absolutely useless to anyone ... Since the great-grandchildren of those who died in Boeing and current Western politicians by this time will die their own death ...
        2. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 6 September 2015 16: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: SRC P-15
          And after nine months, the Dutch will finally be born and announce the result of the investigation?


          I got it! The drug "brakes" from the 2nd movie "Judge Dredd" is not fiction.
      2. strenadk
        strenadk 6 September 2015 16: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Time is running out! Apparently 100% of the evidence that the militia was not able to get the blame and the fabrication failed, so we decided to drag out the investigation process, I think not for one year,

        Do not believe it, but they will find a piece pierced by fragments of a tank shell ... and they will "prove" that the plane was shot down by the Russians from the tank recourse
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 September 2015 07: 52 New
    +21
    declared the need to arrive at the scene of the disaster in order to “collect things and debris”

    This Dutch investigation will go down to the counterparts of plane crash investigations as the most illiterate, not professional, and fully engaged.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 6 September 2015 07: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      This Dutch investigation will go down to the counterparts of plane crash investigations as the most illiterate, not professional, and fully engaged.

      As the most politically motivated.
    2. Afinogen
      Afinogen 6 September 2015 08: 00 New
      +4
      Quote: rotmistr60
      This Dutch investigation will go down to the counterparts of plane crash investigations as the most illiterate, not professional, and fully engaged.



      Yes, they all understood and understood for a long time, just the TRUTH was categorically forbidden to speak to them, and so they poured from empty to empty, and what to do.
      1. Rader
        Rader 6 September 2015 13: 54 New
        +3
        Yes, they all understood and understood for a long time, just the TRUTH was strictly forbidden to speak to them, that’s what they’re pouring from empty to empty, and what to do

        This is understandable, of course, but why turn the semblance of an investigation into a farce, and then into a thing with the letter “X” ...
        I remember when the Americans were draping from Vietnam, then shortly after takeoff one of the transporters took and fell ... And what would you think, you began to risk the lives of the Yankees in order to find the cause of the crash? And how! In just a couple of days (if my memory serves me, of course)
        dig out all the debris of interest and find the cause of the crash!
        And here: "they shoot at us - we can’t work," "well, we still collected the wreckage and bodies of the dead," "oh, of course we collected, and most of it, but not that." Sorry, but this is not a clowning. angry hi
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 6 September 2015 19: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: Rader
          why turn the semblance of an investigation first into a farce, and then

          And the results of which will not be brought to the Russian Federation in full. It seems like this should be understood the latest information on the investigation of the crash.
  3. spech
    spech 6 September 2015 07: 54 New
    +4
    A person is 90% fluid, and these "experts" are made of brake fluid.
    more than a year can not say a damn am
    1. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 6 September 2015 08: 02 New
      +4
      Quote: spech
      more than a year can not say a damn

      They can say something - but the trouble is not what is needed for the State Department. And I don’t want to “run into”.
    2. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 6 September 2015 08: 20 New
      +2
      I read the headline, it immediately came to my mind - once a swan, a crab and a pike decided to play a quartet, they put a monkey monkey ... backwards, hollow, hollow, but no sense.
  4. vovanpain
    vovanpain 6 September 2015 07: 55 New
    +11
    Again the old songs about the main thing will begin, they are already sick of it.
    1. Tor5
      Tor5 6 September 2015 09: 17 New
      +2
      That’s yes, they are creating vigorous activity, after a year, during which they didn’t dig anything against New Russia.
  5. Barakuda
    Barakuda 6 September 2015 07: 56 New
    +5
    They do not smoke there along the way. And then go and find the second Malaysian Boeing, and write off the GDP.
  6. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 6 September 2015 08: 04 New
    +10
    Dutch "Experts"! The mouth of the child speaks the truth
  7. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 6 September 2015 08: 06 New
    +1
    Wait, wait. In October, they promised to publish. Then we will have a chance to gouge these investigeytory. So far, to see, ours are holding something.
  8. APASUS
    APASUS 6 September 2015 08: 07 New
    +1
    Along the way there are not enough fragments, photos of militias to give a verdict
  9. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 6 September 2015 08: 10 New
    +2
    In order to falsify the investigation with the aim of accusing the ruin, the uninvolved party lacks evidence - Ukraine throws them there (the territory is large, access is free), and the Dutch come to pick it up, then they investigate, obviously it’s impossible to attach to the investigation, they order it again and again to pick it up, that’s time.
  10. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 6 September 2015 08: 12 New
    +1
    But it’s interesting, before the arrival of "experts" in this field, Ukrainians will hammer from this artillery or not?
  11. afrikanez
    afrikanez 6 September 2015 08: 12 New
    +1
    Yes, no one needs these results, it has long been clear to everyone! Why then let dust in your eyes? fool
  12. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 6 September 2015 08: 19 New
    +1
    Quote: Voha_krim
    Quote: spech
    more than a year can not say a damn

    They can say something - but the trouble is not what is needed for the State Department. And I don’t want to “run into”.


    They are patriots, everything for Holland, they are substituting the last Netherlands, they squeezed out 100 TONS of their gold from Fort Knox in exchange for frank bullshit, they still want it, it’s delicious. They will continue to grow furious, obviously.
  13. anfil
    anfil 6 September 2015 08: 33 New
    +1
    The main thing is not to throw too much, otherwise they will bring the shot parts of the plane with them from the shotgun and dump everything on Grandfather Mazay.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 6 September 2015 09: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: anfil
      The main thing is not to throw too much, otherwise they will bring with them

      Here's a thing for example -
  14. fif21
    fif21 6 September 2015 08: 39 New
    +1
    They interrogated Voloshin and already know the truth. But for another six months they will think how to lubricate it. They don’t know about such a thing as a confrontation! Maybe someone has a copy of the interrogation of this pi apologize ace?
  15. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 September 2015 08: 41 New
    +2
    Look for who benefits! And draw conclusions. Who benefited from delaying the investigation for more than a year? And selective collection of debris? And still, the result doesn’t "grow together"? Under a predetermined answer? The most “mysterious” crash investigation, probably, in the entire history of modern aviation.
  16. From Germany
    From Germany 6 September 2015 08: 42 New
    +2
    Well, ub-lu-.ki. They themselves made a fuss around the world: "what a tragedy" and "guilty under the tribunal"! And how they understood that Russia could not be substituted, time was being taken so that people could calm down, and there you could say the “truth”, they say a mistake came out if Poroshenko suddenly did something by order. (Although judging by the prepared fights in the German media, it looks very strong on 08.08.08, and then the director was clearly not Mishiko-cocaine nose).
  17. Million
    Million 6 September 2015 08: 47 New
    0
    Dutch investigators should be banned from smoking dope at work
  18. SeAl2014
    SeAl2014 6 September 2015 08: 48 New
    +2
    How stupid, careless. In general, for idiots with popcorn. But we are not them?
    Although Kerry said that American freedom is even to be stupid and stupid. Thank God I'm not American!
  19. roskot
    roskot 6 September 2015 08: 52 New
    +1
    It’s not for nothing. New evidence, new charges. Another year to investigate.
  20. SPIKER
    SPIKER 6 September 2015 08: 53 New
    +1
    Not bothered to go and look for something ... which is not and was not ??? !!!
  21. Obolensky
    Obolensky 6 September 2015 08: 56 New
    +1
    I think that there is some regular political setup. Deadlines are running out, or for lack of other “arguments” they will try to play this game with the Boeing again. I doubt that the investigators will have the audacity to throw material evidence at the scene of the disaster. No, they can try and try, but I doubt that it will work out for them. And then, "shelling" may begin again, as before. We will see. So far this is only a statement. Why guess? We will see.
  22. fest 1973
    fest 1973 6 September 2015 09: 13 New
    0
    Yatak thinks that the first Boeing was lost not just like that. And Yitsenyukh spoke about Plan B for a reason.
  23. family tree
    family tree 6 September 2015 09: 15 New
    0
    and “such a procedure” (collecting debris and personal items in tons) “will have to be repeated every three months.”
    And cho, so, you see, the debris will be handed over to several "Boeing", at the same time you can not spend money on the disposal of various trash what
  24. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 6 September 2015 09: 18 New
    0
    The fact that the Dutch "experts" go to the crash site of the Boeing for a reason is clear to everyone, it’s just not clear what the next "idea" was prepared by our overseas "not quite partners" ??? In short: koloboks from the most “stoned” country conduct the investigation and you can expect anything from them (especially when they are controlled by the “great gentleman” from Washington), I think you need to track their every move and document everything that they will do there officially and not officially! “Keep an eye out” with such “non-biased and independent” experts! And I also got the impression that Russia has some facts and arguments that are “murderous” for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and their owners, and it seems that this is why our Constitution Guarantor and Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Lavrov are so calm, and the “ventures” have already begun to “hysteria” ! But is it not an attempt to "pull the brakes" on a failed provocation!
  25. sekutor
    sekutor 6 September 2015 09: 21 New
    -5
    Dear, here on the site many are close to the army and should know the situation. I read at Delyagin about the fact that the US Embassy in Moscow is building an underground bunker, saying that the Americans gathered to bomb Russia, writes about the very deplorable state of our air defense. So I want to know your opinion about what was written, like exercises are being conducted and air defense in Russia is praised, but here it is. Here is the link: http://delyagin.ru/news/88381-posolstvo-ssha-v-moskve-gotovitsya-k-naneseniyu-po
    -tcentru-moskvy-raketno-bombovogo-udara.html # .Vetq_5O2pnc.twitter
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2015 10: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: sekutor
      that the US embassy in Moscow is building an underground bunker

      actually a fake, rare by stupidity
      read the link - news for old women at the entrance. not for serious discussion
      1. sekutor
        sekutor 6 September 2015 10: 18 New
        0
        Thanks for the answer, I also didn’t really believe it, but I didn’t understand why Delyagin should write it, like a reasonable person.
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 6 September 2015 19: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: sekutor
      US Embassy in Moscow is building an underground bunker

      Yeah, but they take out the land in their pockets and pour it into the Moscow River.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2015 19: 50 New
        0
        Quote: Cynic
        and they take out the earth in their pockets and pour it into the Moscow River

        pass through a fine sieve and lower into the sewer, that's just what they dig ?!
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 6 September 2015 20: 29 New
          +1
          According to the message genre, the choice is small
  26. sv68
    sv68 6 September 2015 09: 23 New
    +1
    Now they will say that due to the fact that one important nut was not found, the results of the investigation will not appear earlier than next summer.
  27. Abbra
    Abbra 6 September 2015 09: 48 New
    0
    Damn, they will find imprints of Putin’s tracks, not washed away by rains and snow ...
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 6 September 2015 10: 06 New
      0
      specific City Tornado.
      I'm so bloodthirsty. winked there is no population.
  28. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 6 September 2015 10: 05 New
    +1
    so serious people don’t work. Do they even have homicide in Holland being investigated this way? investigators come to the scene of the murder a year later and begin to look for traces and fragments. This is already an obvious delay in the process. Another year, they will say that they found something and again it started.
  29. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2015 10: 06 New
    +2
    a month later, there should be a commission’s conclusion, and they "will again arrive in Donbass for fragments of the Malaysian Boeing"
    1. kiparis
      kiparis 6 September 2015 10: 21 New
      +1
      Maybe, just to ensure that the report does not come out on time. “New evidence” has been found, it is necessary to comprehend, study. Etc.
    2. voronbel53
      voronbel53 6 September 2015 13: 24 New
      0
      In general, they came to where they came from, three bast - start over ...
  30. veksha50
    veksha50 6 September 2015 11: 05 New
    0
    "and" such a procedure "(collecting debris and personal items in tons)"will have to be repeated every three months"" ...

    In short - forever ...
  31. ASG7
    ASG7 6 September 2015 13: 22 New
    +1
    The Americans thought they would all settle it, but for some reason they were blown away and left the Dutch alone with the world community. according to the results of the investigation. And so they will collect the details, lay out the fragments of the aircraft and, if necessary, change the results of the investigation. OVD shorter!
  32. mamont5
    mamont5 6 September 2015 16: 01 New
    0
    "Dutch investigators decided to arrive in Donbass again for fragments of the Malaysian Boeing

    Apparently, to engage in another year of tyagomotin (investigation).
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  34. Stranger
    Stranger 6 September 2015 16: 18 New
    0
    the problem is that it is unnecessary for anyone except Russia
  35. Aleksej49
    Aleksej49 6 September 2015 19: 26 New
    0
    When is this mockery of common sense to end?
  36. Stas 86
    Stas 86 6 September 2015 20: 04 New
    +1
    I would forbid to take out all the wreckage from the Donbass because I suspect that this is the missing Malaysian Boeing.
    After the crash in the Donbass Boeing, the militias said that the bodies (stink) decompose not the first day.
    An excellent trump card in the hands of the militia.
  37. marna
    marna 6 September 2015 22: 46 New
    0
    Better late than never...
  38. pazuhinm
    pazuhinm 6 September 2015 23: 23 New
    0
    Yes ... something is visible, they don’t get stuck in business .. Decided to search more? no matter how you find yourself adventures in one place ..
  39. Pak_c_TonopoM
    Pak_c_TonopoM 7 September 2015 02: 27 New
    0
    Yes, everything is elementary. By announcing the verdict, they hold all Ukrainian authorities in one place.
  40. press officer
    press officer 7 September 2015 07: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Mahmut
    Dutch investigators decided to return to Donbass for fragments of the Malaysian "Boeing"

    In terms of psychiatry, this is deja vu.


    To come for rotten things in a year ... Well, yes ... psychiatry in its purest form fool
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 7 September 2015 11: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: press attache
      pure psychiatry

      Politics is in dirty form.
      If you approach this investigation, in my opinion, purely legal, then all the evidence collected is just fragments. Initially, the basic rule was not observed, the inviolability of evidence and the scene of the crime / crash. Therefore, all talk of identifying the perpetrators is a pure tolerast whim. The area of ​​the fall of the wreckage was immediately subjected to shelling, and not a single judge, if he values ​​his reputation, will accept it as evidence of the expertise of the wreckage. Moreover, dill on any version has long been voiced by dillies.
      Interestingly, not a single liberalist stutters about the fact where Urkaina’s fault is undeniable and does not require evidence _ Why flight MH17 was sent over the territory of military operations. You don’t need to look here