Russia is waiting

I observe everything that is happening around Ukraine now and ask myself the same question: WHAT IS MOSCOW WAITING FOR?

Perform so-called. Minsk agreements?

So they will not be executed. Their text does not overlap with reality. The Minsk agreements are fiction. In principle, they cannot solve the problem of settling the conflict in the Donbas.

Moreover, they were not written for this and signed. Just now, the DPR and the LPR, as well as everything that happens around them, is only a trough for those to whom GDP has given a monopoly to solve the problem of Donbas. And the longer this problem will be solved, the more “solvers” will earn it.

I'm not talking about how much the Donbass is now worth Russia for money. Yes, it is much less than the price paid by the West for Ukraine, but this is undoubtedly a substantial amount.

And what about the losses that Russia bears in connection with the sanctions? Both financial and economic, and political. After all, there is no end to these sanctions. What the Americans are doing is in no way connected with the resolution of the conflict in the Donbas. The civil war in Ukraine is not the reason, but the reason for the attack against Russia. And the United States took advantage of this occasion. Thanks to the time received, they are looking for a weak point of the Russian Federation. And when you are looking for something for a very long time, you will find it sooner or later.

For the West, the situation with the Ukrainian problem is a convenient way to attack Russia. And make this attack your long strategy. He does not mind Ukraine. The United States and Europe will use it for their own purposes to the last Ukrainian. So far, nothing will remain of Ukraine.

What is Moscow waiting for? Lifting sanctions? Not. And the fool is clear that they will not be removed. Then what? Gain them to an unacceptable level of negative effects? And then what?

Maybe she is waiting for the collapse of Ukraine? Yes, the option is quite real. But only if it is intensively stimulated by all available means this collapse. However, Russia both sold and sells gas, coal, fuel, and electricity to Ukraine. In Ukraine, both Russian banks worked and work. Etc. etc. In fact, Moscow is involved in the extension of the Ukrainian agony. But is it in her interests? Is this in the interests of ordinary people in Ukraine?

Under current conditions, the agony of Ukraine can stretch out over many years. The peoples of Africa, Asia, and Latin America in a state of chronic agony have lived for decades. Therefore, the people of Ukraine will simply live in bloody shit and put up with the power that drove him into this shit. Because he has no choice.

But who else, if not Russia, can give him a choice?

However, Russia is waiting ...

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[Vladimirets]

However, Russia is waiting ...

But you can’t just watch how it all ends?

[vorobey]

Quote: Vladimirets

However, Russia is waiting ...

But you can’t just watch how it all ends?

Hello Zheka ... I also didn’t understand the author’s thought ... what I wanted ... and again I mentioned about the feeders ... there are more question marks than a bukof ... well, she’s waiting .. and what ... let them run into me, eat up .. I went to Smirnov .. for a clear conscience ..

[Vladimirets]

Quote: vorobey

Hi, hello ...

Hi Sanya.

Quote: vorobey

I also didn’t understand the author’s thought ... he wanted it .. and again about the feeders he mentioned ... there are more question marks than a bukof ... well, he’s waiting .. and what ... let them run into, eat up ..

I don’t understand why do we need to jump into the fire with our bare ass? The most interesting thing is to watch them rage when we sit upright.

Quote: vorobey

for a clear conscience ..

Shaw, again ?? !!

[vorobey]

Quote: Vladimirets

Shaw, again ?? !!

If you are bored ...

[Vladimirets]

Quote: vorobey

boring ..

Which time?

[vorobey]

Quote: Vladimirets

Quote: vorobey

boring ..

Which time?

lost ...

[the polar]

The author’s thought is simple and understandable, but not everyone has the courage to admit it.
According to our Putin, Russia has invested in Ukraine in various forms of 15 billion over 250 years !!!
And in the end, it ... requested the most industrialized territory of the former USSR, putting it under the full and unconditional control of the USA and NATO.
This is a state crime! But no one will answer for it, under the current regime, because these 250 billions were jointly sawn by Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs. Well indeed! Not about the Ukrainian people, and not even about the Russian, the Russian government cared, merging these colossal finances into Ukraine.
Now that the enemy’s neo-Nazi-Bandera territory, ready for any military provocation, is located in 400 km from Moscow, the Kremlin has no choice but to pretend to be offended, who for many years waved his Western partners in sweat, trying to please them in everything, and his so filthy and cynical pulled.
Andrei Vajra spoke very tactfully about all this.

[mervino2007]

Quote: Polar

there is nothing left but to pretend to be offended, who for many years in the sweat of his face waved to the Western partners, trying to please them in everything, and he was so viciously and cynically pulled.

A lot of questions to the policy of the Russian Federation in Ukraine. Obviously, there is a bet on the top there. It is rightly noticed - politics is determined by oligarchs on both sides. No serious analytics even smells here. The theory of the wise gudgeon is in action.

[Halfunra]

Something = ends meet do not fit. Russia from the day of the collapse of the USSR, probably skated like cheese in butter. Billions distributed. And they already forgot how much money was swapped for the first president. And take sovereignty as much as you want, you can and need to remember a lot and not invent and think out any garbage.
Vajara was a provocateur, he didn’t write anything significant, but he cast a shadow on the fence.

[lexa333]

correct answer.

[Dmitry Donskoy]

It's time to raise the Scarlet Banner, to drive all these liberals into the neck !!! TROUBLED THE SCUMBERS !!!
Enough snot chewing !!! Begin at least something to DO at least within the COUNTRY !!!

I don’t understand one thing but why (!) In our country, the prices for everything have lifted up to the drain, which is simply nowhere to go. Is it difficult to understand that high energy prices are pulling everything up !!! Do we have gas ceased to produce or oil? or coal? or are nuclear plants?

For slow-thinking from power: what was born in the South-East of Ukraine will sweep you if you do not learn WORK! rather than STEAL

[16112014nk]

The strategy of anti-people’s power in Russia is capitalism, the market, privatization.
Strategy LDN-socialism, plan, nationalization.
The strategy of Kiev Ukraine is capitalism, war, privatization.
Who does Russia have more similarities with? Therefore, gas goes to Ukraine at a discount, and Sberbank in Ukraine supplies the junta with money. The authorities of Russia and Ukraine are anti-people, kindred in spirit. Do not indulge yourself with illusions. They are "Close people" - almost according to O. Henry.

[Tambov Wolf]

You are right. There is nothing to add. Besides the news http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1602293/ Again, misunderstandings in the DPR.

[vorobey]

Quote: Polar

The Kremlin has no choice but to pretend to be offended

portrays strongly?

[Nikoha.2010]

Quote: vorobey

portrays strongly?

Sasha, are you this? Are you a foreman? Or the second round, and go already in the third year of life went? I would have overtaken a pensioner with Ruslan in the weight category long ago!

[Eternal Watch]

Quote: vorobey

portrays strongly?

yeah, with all my last urine
the shirt is here, the prostitute is there ..., yo ... yo.

[captain]

Until the tax policy changes (taxes are paid not in Moscow, where the office is, but at the place of production or production), there will be no sense. Second, the regions must retain at least 60% of taxes. In the meantime, everyone is in Moscow, and then they beg for their money from the Moscow master. And on TV, everything is fine, because the language of the chat is not bags toss and turn.

[Thor]

60%?
Why not 70?)
And let the Moscow region leave 60% for itself! And then half the country of subsidized regions on ..opu immediately sit down. I’m generally silent about the financing of state orders.
Such ideas are surprising, we have a federation of semi-material, and not a bunch of small autonomous provinces of Papua Guinea ...

[Vladimir K]

This is not what you are being told. They say that taxes come to the Moscow budget from firms and firms registered there. The production facilities of many of them are located in the regions. Taxes on social services and the local budget flow to the center. Therefore, for example, one metro station in a large city is built every 20 years, the asphalt in the center is broken, and so on, etc. At the same time, the so-called. fockies, stadiums and other delights of the "party wave" (for the Olympics or without). Where are the factories, where are the "local registration" production facilities capable of keeping the region without subsidies from the center?
PS And as for the federation, there is nothing to worry about: the regions will be strong, the federation will be inextricable.

[IIIIvanov]

Nonsense, do not know what to write about.

[KiR_RF]

[quote = Thor] 60%?
Why not 70?)
And let the Moscow region leave 60% for itself!

And how much do you think they leave for themselves?
PS Moscow is not a city, but a "garbage dump", there are only beggars who live, to whom give everything, give it all. And therefore I believe that the captain is speaking. +

[Cat man null]

Quote: KiR_RF

And how much do you think they leave for themselves?

How much? Share a reference? Not to talk in vain?

Quote: KiR_RF

Moscow is not a city, but a "garbage dump", there are only beggars who live, to whom give everything, but give

There are a couple of friends (buddies, say) from Moscow. Not beggars.

Keep a minus, for the future - please .. follow the words, yes

[KiR_RF]

There are no friends in Moscow, but there is an uncle who is not a senior official who explained to me very clearly that when sending money (taxes) to Moscow, less than a third of the funds sent are returned to the subject.

[Cat man null]

Quote: KiR_RF

there is an uncle an official of not a large link who explained everything to me very clearly

Stop wagging the priest and answer the initially asked question:

How many taxes collected in it keeps Moscow region?

You kind of hinted there that you know .. your uncle is not there sideways (this is a hint).

[Thor]

60%?
Why not 70?)
And let the Moscow region leave 60% for itself! And then half the country of subsidized regions on ..opu immediately sit down. I’m generally silent about the financing of state orders.
Such ideas are surprising, we have a federation of semi-material, and not a bunch of small autonomous provinces of Papua Guinea ...

[captain]

And what does the Moscow region extract and produce? Can oil, gas, timber, coal, uranium, gold, fish, grain, meat, can planes, helicopters, ships, steel, cars, chemicals? Feeds the whole of Russia? In addition to cutting the budget, it does not produce anything, I apologize, there are some successes in the nuclear industry and even in the assembly. Federal taxes According to Art. 13. Tax Code of the Russian Federation to federal taxes and fees include:
Federal taxes

Federal taxes from 1 January 2005 years include:

1) value added tax;

Xnumx) excise taxes;

3) personal income tax;

4) single social tax;

5) corporate income tax;

6) mineral extraction tax;

7) inheritance or gift tax;

8) water tax;

9) fees for the use of objects of the animal world and for the use of objects of aquatic biological resources;

10) state duty

Regional taxes

Regional taxes from 1 January 2005 years include:

1) property tax of organizations;

2) tax on gambling business;

3) transport tax.

Thus, the list of regional taxes has been reduced to actually applicable taxes: excluded taxes are excluded - real estate tax; road tax; sales tax.

Local taxes

From January 1 to 2005, local taxes include:

1) land tax;

2) property tax for individuals. What remains in place?

[gjv]

Quote: captain

And what does the Moscow region extract and produce?

A significant number of defense industry enterprises operate on the territory of the city, among them:
State Space Research and Production Center named after M.V. Khrunichev
Production of the MiG RSK company (a third of the Russian Air Force fighters are developed and manufactured by MiG RSK)
The enterprises of the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern (the largest are Almaz, Altair, Vanguard)
Tushino Machine-Building Plant
Rocket-building ICB Vympel
Moscow Machine-Building Enterprise named after V.V. Chernyshev
Of the civil proceedings, the largest:
Moscow Oil Refinery - a major producer, including for export, of petroleum products
Likhachev Plant - truck manufacturer approx. 10 thousand a year Avtoframos - Renault car assembly company approx. 60 thousand a year, on the territory of the former AZLK, Renault Logan is going to Avtoframos
Electrozavod - a large manufacturer of electric transformers and reactors
Moselektroshchit - manufacturer of electrical switchgears
Karacharovsky Mechanical Plant - production of lifting equipment
Factory "Moskabel"
Moscow Refinery
Three Mountain Manufactory
Moscow shipbuilding and ship repair plant
Moskhimpharmpreparat them. N. A. Semashko
Red October (confectionery factory)

[Cat man null]

Quote: captain

А What does the Moscow region extract and produce? ... In addition to cutting the budget does not produce anything, I beg your pardon

Nuuuu .. dear, you hit.. poke at random: the city of Korolev MO:

RSC "Energy" named after C. P. Koroleva - space-rocket complexes (and not only. There are even quite civilian products).

Central Scientific Research Institute of Mechanical Engineering (TsNIIMASH) - designs, develops and researches rockets and spacecraft, it also houses the Mission Control Center (MCC).

Design Bureau of Chemical Engineering A. M. Isaeva - development of liquid rocket engines.

Research Institute of Space Systems. A. A. Maksimova - research and development of new equipment and promising technologies, such as space, energy-saving, monitoring of natural resources.

OJSC Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation (KTRV) - development of combat missile systems and aircraft systems.

NPO Composite OJSC - development and production of materials for rocket and space technology. There is a beryllium workshop in it, as well, for example. There they get this very beryllium ..

NGO Measuring equipment - the development of information-measuring systems and systems and other high-tech equipment.

And this is not even the whole of the former SredMash .. but there is also a pipe plant, an example, but a lot of different things ..

Quote: captain

What remains in place?

This is not for me. This is to the current legislation ..

[IIIIvanov]

You dear Rotmister are not up to date on the issue of paying taxes. I advise you to familiarize yourself with the tax code and international practice.
Sincerely.

[captain]

Dear IIIvanov SU, Maybe the late Primakov was not in the know? Before his death, he proposed 50% of the taxes collected in the regions to be left in place. We have in the Belgorod region. the bulk of enterprises are registered in Moscow, where the main taxes are paid.

[Cat man null]

Quote: captain

Until the tax policy changes (taxes are paid not in Moscow, where the office is, but at the place of production or production)

Quote: captain

In the meantime, everything to Moscow

Not "to Moscow", but "to the place of registration of the enterprise," feel the difference ..

Quote: captain

and then beg for their money from the Moscow master

Have you personally participated?

The thing is, in Crimea, Artek was restored, the ferries were launched, the cable is pulled there lepezdricheskogo, to get rid of Nenka - what shisha do you think? Yes, for the same taxes that "to Moscow" ..

Once again, they are building a spaceport, the Eastern one of which - on which shishi? Yes to the same ..

- Not a single region will pull a state-building project - is that clear, I hope?
- What kind of army is provided with? Yes, with the same ..
- without these construction sites and the army (and much more, which is financed from the center) - there is no state .. is this also understandable?

Quote: captain

tongue chatting not tossing bags

Exactly

And also, before you chat with your tongue (or comment on comments) - you have to turn your brains.

Although it is sometimes more difficult than tossing bags, yes ..

[Byshido_dis]

So what? Wanted a war? So go to Donbass to you there all your romantic ideas about the war will be beaten out with blood and sweat. And then if you stay intact write ...

[Iskras]

This is not a romantic performance, but one of two or the author is dumb. or he has a delicate calculation. stir up the water. sow patriotic thoughts. let the Russian boys substitute for bullets ... no really ... we have our own state. Well, they hate the Russians so much, so let them understand

[inkass_98]

Quote: Byshido_dis

So go to the Donbass

He just dumped from Rwinda, hence all the experiences. Purely humanly, his torment is understandable, but somehow Russia is not very eager to get into the war, whatever the hell would it be.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: vorobey

I also did not understand the author’s thought ... he wanted something .. and again he mentioned the feeders

There are some individuals who like to be smart (I'm talking about the author of the article).
Now I will explain with a simple example. I really don’t like some (and to be honest, almost all) DAM’s political decisions, but ... I can’t say (to be honest, honestly) that they are not correct, because to understand them you need to know all the ins and outs in this situation, and this is not given to us mere mortals in such matters. Therefore, to read such articles, just cheat yourself.

[vorobey]

Quote: Oleg147741

Therefore, to read such articles, just cheat yourself.

but such articles are capable of turning public opinion ... the main thing is not the thought ... the main thing is to throw the seed of doubt ... we are all adults and probably noticed behind ourselves we only have to ask ourselves a question and suddenly not so ... everything .. the big cheats begin doubts are feverish and in the end it’s not even just a jamb, but a mantle looms in life ..

[Karabanov]

Quote: vorobey

the main thing is not the thought .. the main thing is to throw the seed of doubt ... we are all adults and probably noticed behind ourselves we only have to ask ourselves a question and suddenly not ... all ..

The author of the article really has a blurry ending and the finale remains open ...
Do we really feel good? I doubt it ... (type esquizmi ) Here, and without external propaganda, you can verify this.

[vorobey]

Quote: Karabanov

Do we really feel good?

and who claims this? let's out of solidarity with the Ukrainians do worse?

[SHILO]

Quote: Oleg147741

There are some individuals who like to be smart ...

That you yourself dear Believe me.

[BABAY22]

Oleg 147741 said everything correctly.
The author uses the tactics of street rally provocateurs. Tells the crowd how bad things are, then asks a bunch of questions. And supposedly the crowd itself must give an answer to these questions, although these answers have long been spelled out in the script.
And then the rebellion, as they say, is meaningless and merciless.
Well, and the provocateur because of the backs of the crowd is watching everything that happens.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: SHILO

That you yourself dear Believe me.

Sorry about you! And I won’t believe you!

[Vladimir 1964]

Oleg, DAM’s decisions are liked exclusively by narrow circles of people, such as the red-headed Tolyan and others like them. As for the author, I have one question for him:
And what are you waiting for Andrey Vajra?

[the polar]

And he is this naive Andrei Vajra, he thinks that in the Kremlin all of them are patriots, who are ready to take off their last shirt for the sake of the Fatherland and the good of the people. And they think exclusively about how to crush the oligarchy and secure the borders of Russia right up to Poland, crushing the Nazi-Bandera reptile in the bud until it has grown into a neo-Nazi war machine, led by a new "Hitler".
And along the way, give the opportunity to Ukrainians, as fraternal people to build a normal life without oligarchs and Nazis

[shtanko.49]

I think the work on the situation in Ukraine is ongoing, all possible options are pumped up and many questions are classified. It is not necessary to say that Russia is waiting and does nothing, the war with the West has been going on for a long time and the one who is more patient can win. win, there is still much to do to win.

[Tambov Wolf]

All the secrets are hidden in the gym in Sochi. It was not for nothing that the guarantor and iPhone watched them under a bicycle simulator. Even from the secretary of defense.

[Scoun]

Quote: vorobey

Well, waiting .. and Th ... let them run into, eat up ..

It's just that many are accustomed to the fact that Russia should run ahead of the "steam locomotive" and also wipe the nozzles .... but in reality ... LET THEY RUN !!! I really feel sorry for people ... but when she gets to the bottom of the Russian ban on lace made of sludge synthetics and goes to the Maidan with a placard, I swing panties with lace ... and then runs to work in Russia .... so hunting for her nostril pull up and say - go ride the doo.ra in your lace in the brothels of Europe! Why did you gallop here ?!
They hayat crap and accept and caress them?
It was
Passed
Russia is now just waiting ... the boiler is boiling ... let it be cooked into something completely and become something ... at least porridge, at least porridge .. otherwise fish are not meat .. these are hats.


Phew .. talked out ...

[baltika-18]

Quote: Vladimirets

However, Russia is waiting ...

What else do you want? Some Vajra wants a big and bloody war? Let it be better in limbo for now. The current political impotent people still will not solve this issue. Only new faces in both the Russian and Ukrainian political elite can solve this problem.

[vorobey]

Quote: baltika-18

And what else is needed

Nikolai ... where did you disappear .. hello ..

Quote: baltika-18

Only new faces in both the Russian and Ukrainian political elite can solve this problem.

you don’t imagine yourself hoping, it’s about the Russian elite ... there are doubts about the Ukrainian one too .. I don’t see anyone there .. well, except that Mishiko really dares ..

[baltika-18]

Quote: vorobey

vorobey

Greetings, Alexander.

Quote: vorobey

you don’t imagine yourself hoping, it’s about the Russian elite ... there are doubts about the Ukrainian one too .. I don’t see anyone there .. well, except that Mishiko really dares ..

But I’m sure that everything will change. New people will come. And in 2020 there will already be a single state, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus.

[vorobey]

Quote: baltika-18

But I’m sure that everything will change. New people will come. And in 2020 there will already be a single state, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus.

your words, yes to God’s ears .. Nikolai ..

[baltika-18]

Quote: vorobey

your words yes to God’s ears .. Nikolai.

Look, Alexander. Did it take a lot of time to become enemies? Two years in total. Even on May 9, 2013, the Russian flag was carried at the parade in Kiev along with the Ukrainian one. Massive propaganda on both sides did its job. All enemies.
Now let’s imagine that at some point in time in these three countries certain Ivanov, Ivanenko, Ivanchuk come to power. The guys with the same thoughts and ideas, settle the conflict (it’s not difficult, the desire and will of the leadership), begin rapprochement of countries, deploy propaganda on 180 degrees. How long does it take to become friends again? Also 2-3 years.
Politicians, corrupt journalists and media clowns are to blame for the current war.

[vorobey]

Quote: baltika-18

Now let’s imagine that at some point in time in these three countries certain Ivanov, Ivanenko, Ivanchuk come to power. The guys with the same thoughts and ideas, settle the conflict (it’s not difficult, the desire and will of the leadership), begin rapprochement of countries, deploy propaganda on 180 degrees. How long does it take to become friends again? Also 2-3 years.

Nikolai would have listened and listened .. you are an idealist romantic ... pay attention to how fast the assets are being canceled and under what guarantees loans are taken .. as a result, the owners of overseas newspaper plants and their governors will not let this happen ... you but you yourself see with us and without war what clan struggle is going on ..

[baltika-18]

Quote: vorobey

Nikolai would listen and listen .. you are an idealist romantic.

Yes, probably....

Quote: Vladimirets

Against the current background, it is very difficult to bring such people to power.

Let's wait a bit. I think by the end of the year it will be clear how events will develop further and what surprises life has prepared for us.
Believe always in the best.

Quote: Vladimirets

In the best case, you need to add zeros to the right of these numbers. It’s not for nothing that the puppeteers pour blood when the blood of relatives was spilled and the perpetrators were declared a thousand times very difficult to prove the opposite, it’s very difficult to convince a person that everything was in vain, that a friend or relative died in vain, this is called a gap

No, there is an option to speed up the process. This is already a question from the field of human psychology.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: baltika-18

Ivanov, Ivanenko, Ivanchuk. Guys with the same thoughts and ideas, settle the conflict (this is not difficult, the desire and will of the leadership)

Against the current background, it is very difficult to bring such people to power.

Quote: baltika-18

How long does it take to become friends again? Also 2-3 years.

In the best case, you need to add zeros to the right of these numbers. It’s not for nothing that the puppeteers pour blood when the blood of those close to them has been shed and the perpetrators have been declared guilty of it; it is very difficult to prove the opposite; it is very difficult to convince a person that everything was in vain, that a friend or relative died in vain, this is called a template break.

[Victor Demchenko]

Quote: vorobey

you don’t imagine yourself hoping, it’s about the Russian elite ... there are doubts about the Ukrainian one too .. I don’t see anyone there .. well, except that Mishiko really dares ..

if about Mishiko, then he smiled very much ... remember 08,08,08. and how it ended? I’m very afraid of a repeat of the situation and further according to the scenario ...

[vorobey]

Quote: Viktor Demchenko

remember 08,08,08. and how did it end?

again, let's go to Tbilisi and before reaching stop in Kiev?

[Revolver]

Quote: vorobey

Well, except that Mishiko really dares ..

If he himself does not choke on a tie ... But a tie can still turn out to be hemp, and there are many who want to give and tie this tie to him.

[Proxor_P]

Here such an option is possible: Ukrainians (in the sense of Russophobia and anti-Russianness) in Ukraine have gained such strength in the souls of Ukrainians that a long-term and sustainable cure is possible only through Catharsis, through some suffering, and NOT accepting the stages of a humanitarian catastrophe. And here quick decisions like collapsing the economy or, especially, military intervention will not help (this - on the contrary, will cause a new layer of hatred for Russia). Apparently accepted option self-healing... This, of course, assumptions - no more ...

[Temples]

What does the author expect from his article?
No, not so ... - WHAT does the author expect?

I observe everything that is happening around Ukraine now and ask myself the same question: WHAT IS MOSCOW WAITING FOR?

I read it and ask myself the question "Why does the author write?"

[Mareman Vasilich]

The author simply believes that Russia must bomb everyone.

[vorobey]

Quote: Mareman Vasilich

The author simply believes that Russia must bomb everyone.

why all then .. it is necessary to approach this issue exclusively ..

[DenZ]

I do not think that the author thinks so. But he asks the questions correct and timely. It is precisely such questions that come to mind. And despite the fact that there is no answer to them, it is worth a lot to ask the right question.

[Karabanov]

Quote: DenZ

It is worth a lot to ask the right question.

Exactly. But I am afraid that we will not hear the correct and adequate answer. So you have to think out yourself. Well, the authorities only make it worse ...

[DenZ]

I believe now our government is now not at all simple, but such is its share, to make decisions that would ensure the security of the state and not lead the country into a dead end. We are waiting ... We hope for the best.

[AleksUkr]

Quote: Temples

I read it and ask myself the question "Why does the author write?"

If you look at it from a certain angle, the article is provocative. Yes, and who is the author? Where did it come from that it so freely wishes to change public opinion?
In general, it would not hurt the moderators not only to look in our words for mats and other underlying reasons, but to pass through the sieve the most provocative articles. Too many empty breeds ... and other .... provocateurs such as:

[Victor Demchenko]

in the sense of censorship? can we wait?

[DenZ]

I see nothing provocative in the article. The author simply asks questions, trying to look into the future, but for obvious reasons, the future is uncertain. Or is everything clear to you, it is clear how and how all this confrontation will end? For example, I don’t understand. Can enlighten the wretched?

[the polar]

Quote: AleksUkr

If you look at it from a certain angle, the article is provocative.

And you tie up with this business, then you will stand straight, not swaying and look at everyone not "from a certain angle", but as expected.

[cuzmin.mihail2013]

No, Russia cannot wait, they are children, and cannot be held responsible for their actions! Therefore, instead of punishing, we also encourage Ukraine to make an ultimatum against Russia. Not long ago, it was only heard from various high-ranking officials: "Ukraine will not receive discounts on gas."
Or maybe someone will explain to a stupid Russian what it is:
Moscow. 4 September. INTERFAX.RU - Russia is ready to provide Ukraine with a discount on gas in the fourth quarter, while the price will be at the level of prices for countries adjacent to Ukraine, for example, with Poland, Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak said on the air of the Russia 24 TV channel. But Kiev has not yet applied for a discount.
He did not talk about a specific price level, noting that it would be "slightly lower" than the price of the third quarter offered to Ukraine.

[Cat man null]

Quote: cuzmin.mihail2013

Or maybe someone will explain to a stupid Russian what it is:
Moscow. 4 September. INTERFAX.RU - Russia is ready to provide Ukraine with a discount on gas in the fourth quarter, while the price will be at the level of prices for countries adjacent to Ukraine, for example, with Poland, Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak said on the air of the Russia 24 TV channel. But Kiev has not yet applied for a discount.

For some reason you post it for the second time today .. this is so, by the way ..

And now - a question to .. um .. to a Russian: do you really think that this "discount" is given to Ukraine simply "for beautiful eyes"? And what is next to it, with Ukraine and the Russian Federation, is not Germany, for example, which really doesn’t want Ukraine to ... um ... to feed the gas that goes through it, Ukraine, to Germany from the Russian Federation?

Answer yourself to these (simple) questions, and much will immediately become clearer ..

[avt]

Quote: Cat Man Null

? And what is next to it, with Ukraine and the Russian Federation, Germany is not standing, for example, which really does not want Ukraine .. um ... to rush gas that flows through it, Ukraine, to Germany from the Russian Federation?

And if we add to this the recently signed documents on "Nord Stream 2"? There is a Game, the Big Game, whose moves are sometimes not clear due to the lack of information for full understanding. So the author is hysterical. And who will tell him the essence of this or that move which will lead to the situation of the advantage of one of the Players? Not - one thing can be said for sure - the outcome of the Game. “Only when everyone dies, only then the Great Game will end.” Well, the attempts to find out something are understandable ----- ,, Therefore, the people of Ukraine will simply live in bloody shit and endure the power that drove them into it. he has no choice.

But who else, if not Russia, can give him a choice?

However, Russia is waiting ... "--------- Well, where is the hurry then ??? Every step brings you closer to death, again why bother?" Have the people of Ukraine come to the fore? " The same author has no answer, and picking a green fruit can lead to poisoning. So Russia has no need to rush, like Yukren, Europ does not need. We can wait, and then the whole herd is "universal" ... The main thing now is to chew everything well for good digestion.

[SHILO]

Quote: Vladimirets

But you can’t just watch how it all ends?

Not. It is impossible. Because the whole story is not about dill, but about Russia.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: SHILO

Because the whole story is not about dill, but about Russia.

Not likely at this time.

[SHILO]

Quote: Vladimirets

Not likely at this time.

I am also glad to live in illusions ...

[Babr]

Quote: SHILO

Quote: Vladimirets

But you can’t just watch how it all ends?

Not. It is impossible. Because the whole story is not about dill, but about Russia.

I don’t understand at all. As you can observe from the side, your brother or sister is being bullied.
Well, yes, they have already been recorded in "never when we will not be brothers."
Vladimir, you’ll just watch, with popcorn under your arm, you’ll be left without your loved ones.

[SHILO]

Quote: Babr

I don’t understand at all. As you can observe from the side, your brother or sister is being bullied.
Well, yes, they have already been recorded in "never when we will not be brothers."
Vladimir, you’ll just watch, with popcorn under your arm, you’ll be left without your loved ones.

Propaganda my friend is doing his job ...

[Babr]

Quote: SHILO

Propaganda my friend is doing his job

But we are warriors, albeit sofa.

[Eternal Watch]

Quote: Babr

albeit sofa.

[Babr]

Stop giggling.
To kill the body, this is one thing, to kill the soul and mind, it is worse. Plato is my friend, but truth is more precious.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Babr

. As can be seen from the outside, how your brother or sister is being bullied.

These are beautiful words, however, who are we really helping brother or sister (LDNR).

Quote: Babr

Vladimir, you’ll just watch, with popcorn under your arm, you’ll be left without your loved ones.

Are there any real proposals? Without pathos and ornate slogans? Send troops? Move to Kiev? And who will we really be after that for all of Ukraine and even for sympathizers from other countries? For the people of Ukraine, even those who are not very much knocked down, it will really be "get up, a huge country" and dispel all doubts who the enemy is. What exactly do you propose, besides slogans? No, until it comes to themselves, they cannot decide by force, alas.

[Babr]

Vladimir. I didn’t want to offend anything.
I'm sorry.
There is a suggestion.
Bring Ukraine and Russia to a common denominator.
THINK THESE WORDS
"In the old days in Russia, a popular assembly gathered. People discussed, looked for solutions to problems. And worked out an image of the future. A unanimous decision acquired enormous spiritual power, which we call conciliarity. And this power helped the rulers find the best solutions for everyone."

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Babr

Vladimir. I didn’t want to offend anything.
I'm sorry.

Yes, everything is fine, why should I be offended.

Quote: Babr

THINK THESE WORDS
"In the old days in Russia, a popular assembly gathered. People discussed, looked for solutions to problems. And worked out an image of the future. A unanimous decision acquired enormous spiritual power, which we call conciliarity. And this power helped the rulers find the best solutions for everyone."

This is all beautiful and true, only you understand that this is utopia, and even in those ancient times the veche was far from everywhere.

[Babr]

Quote: Vladimirets

what is utopia

Eugene, in order to defame something, it is necessary to ridicule it. The law of mind control.
So the word "utopia" refers to this.
So do not pay attention to him.
If the soul is not against my words (by the way, not mine, but I support), follow them and we will succeed.

[vorobey]

Quote: Vladimirets

This is all beautiful and true, only you understand that this is utopia, and even in those ancient times the veche was far from everywhere.

I propose to collect the veche in classmates ... although there already every evening is such a veche. constructive and pours first one way then the other

[Vladimirets]

Quote: vorobey

constructive and pours first one way then the other

And an hour later, head over heels in the construct.

[vorobey]

Quote: Babr

Vladimir, you'll just watch

There is always a choice ... or you are not just watching .. but angrily condemning it ... well, this is the difference ... almost a feat ..

[Babr]

To my great regret, I'm just watching.
Cost of age. I’m sorry ... I’m not guilty !!!! Damn.

[vorobey]

Quote: Babr

To my great regret, I'm just watching.
Cost of age. I’m sorry ... I’m not guilty !!!! Damn.

otzh ... when I talked .. and the guys found out that I have four children .. said openly sit dad at home ... also sitting .. watching ..

[Babr]

Quote: vorobey

otzh ... when I talked .. and the guys found out that I have four children ..

Yeah .. green .. I'm already a 7-time grandfather.
But a year ago he was giving odds to young people. And now, on the couch.
The heart breaks there, and the body says, sit old on the couch.

[Persistent]

But you can’t just watch how it all ends?

Now they will not be up to the DNI and LC !!! The junta in Kiev fights because of posts and handouts amers ...

[Dr. Bormental]

Just short and clear! They will strangle themselves with embroidered shirts, then they will start asking for help when Europe becomes clear from this menagerie and stops covering them. We must wait, we must.

[Nikolay K]

Just watch while people die in the Donbass, and the elderly starve without pensions?

[Rus2012]

Quote: Vladimirets

However, Russia is waiting ...

What is Moscow waiting for?
...
In the current conditions, the agony of Ukraine can last for many years.

He waits until he completes independent energy channels (electricity, gas) in Crimea past the ruins. 2year left ...
Well, it looks that all this time will be happening at the ruin ...
And if 3,14ndostan merges during this time - all our "former" and "non-existent" - will crawl on their knees in rags and kiss their feet. He will think - to forgive or send with God. Everything goes to this ...

[Tanais]

Judging by the photo, Russia is somewhere far away from us, in the Rocky Mountains, on the highway ...

[Loner_53]

Yeah, hitchhiking she will go to you for a long time

[Engineer]

What is the article about? About nothing! Is Russia waiting? What? The author does not know. Why then write?

[Tanais]

Quote: Engineer

than an article? About nothing! Is Russia waiting? What? The author does not know. Why then write?

The author does not know, "What is Russia waiting for", I do not know, maybe you know?

Why write? ? ? And this is elementary, there is such a technique that allows you to make the reader START THINK ...

Not all are "chewed up" ... Sometimes the reader should think. Himself ...

[marlin1203]

The author himself answered. This conflict is more expensive for the West.

[Flinky]

Vajra will not wait for us to conquer them again. The cat left the kittens - let them ... whatever they want.

[sever.56]

"Horses, people mingled in a heap" ...
Again, the "author" sculpts the humpback ...! Is he proposing to immediately declare war on Ukraine, the states and all of Europe? We know about the sanctions even without him, the fact that the people of Ukraine are in "bloody shit" - too. The author is an idiot provocateur, but his provocations look so ridiculous that they are not even worth serious comments ...!

[Tanais]

Quote: sever.56

"Horses, people mingled in a heap" ...
Again, the "author" sculpts the humpback ...! Is he proposing to immediately declare war on Ukraine, the states and all of Europe?

Other ways to change the regime in Kiev does not exist?

[vorobey]

Quote: Tanais

Other ways to change the regime in Kiev does not exist?

who should do this? Moscow? she is a recognized aggressor ... if you still have to share how ..

the issue of electricity and gas is not touching yet ...

[Tanais]

Quote: vorobey

who should do this? Moscow? she is a recognized aggressor ... if you still have to share how ..

I told you about this, the author repeats: Stop wallowing "both ours and yours," remove the shackles of "Minsk", provide support with modern weapons systems, since the "aggressor" ...

Help arrange for the junta and the United States, a second Vietnam ...

Note, energy resources, banking and so on, at YOUR request, did not "touch" ...

[vorobey]

Quote: Tanais

remove the fetters of Minsk

Quote: Tanais

Help arrange for the junta and the United States, a second Vietnam ...

yes, you don’t have the strength .. I brought you the layouts and the rest of Ukraine will not rise looking at you until the gut in the stomach shows no blow ... Dear you, my man, let me be a simpleton in your eyes who doesn’t understand anything, but ... there is a time for everything .. As soon as Europe loses its favor then the time comes ... the work in this direction has been done and huge will be done ... Nikolay Baltik 18 ask (he calls me Putinistus, I don’t mind, although he doesn’t mind wrong) two years ago we were arguing now I saw him again ... As soon as Russia is sure that the EU takes at least a neutral position then the time comes to act .. and you get distracted from yourself and see how frankly bring down Germany .. recent events with refugees in Budapest and the Germans’s patient is not like ours ..

[sever.56]

Quote: Tanais

Other ways to change the regime in Kiev does not exist?

Address this question to the "author" and the people of Ukraine.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Tanais

Other ways to change the regime in Kiev does not exist?

Not a joke, however, it is interesting:

- to remove Poroshenko is probably technically easy even .. because "all people are mortal"
- the question is - who will come in return?
- the question is - will this someone be a more sane politician (just don't say right away that "it couldn't be worse" .. "Maybe maybe ..")?

Do you know the answers? I here - no ..

[Tanais]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Do you know the answers? I here - no ..

There is no need to change the "figures", it is necessary to change the "board", or rather to knock out the economic and financial platform from under the junta. And not by such "nyashny" methods, as the Russian Federation is acting now, but by systematic and harsh (MORE SEVERE!) Strangulation. By the way, time, since the beginning of the war, but what is there, the REVOLUTION, WAS ...

How is it used? Rationally? With knowledge of business, or anyhow?

The map of "stubs" of the DPR and LPR, and some kind of readiness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, says NO ...

And it should be completely wrong ...

[Karabanov]

Quote: sever.56

The author is a golem provocateur, but his provocations look so ridiculous that they are not even worth serious comments ...!

I admit, between the lines there is a desire to pay attention to internal problems.
Something was remembered ... Would you go to a dentist who has decayed teeth?
And let's say frankly - Russia in terms of corruption has not gone far from Ukraine. Only here is the scale of a different and more natural resources. And we will never solve an external problem until internal contradictions are resolved. And they are well known.
All this pathos and calls is focused on the enemy from the outside. At the same time when the state is sick from the inside, not to see it, to encourage and at the same time to declare your patriotism from the stands is the greatest cynicism and hypocrisy.

[the polar]

Quote: Karabanov

And let's say frankly - Russia in terms of corruption has not gone far from Ukraine. Only here is the scale of a different and more natural resources. And we will never solve an external problem until internal contradictions are resolved. And they are well known.
All this pathos and calls is focused on the enemy from the outside. At the same time when the state is sick from the inside, not to see it, to encourage and at the same time to declare your patriotism from the stands is the greatest cynicism and hypocrisy.

Well said, highlighted the main problem.
But here more than half of the commentators are not capable of objective analysis, and they will not understand.

[rosarioagro]

"... However, Russia both sold and is selling gas, coal, fuel, electricity to Ukraine. Russian banks have worked and are still working in Ukraine."

And the government of the Russian Federation subsidized banks, and those, in turn, subsidized subsidiaries in Ukraine, and what will Russia expect in this case?

[Tanais]

Quote: rosarioagro

And the government of the Russian Federation subsidized banks, and those, in turn, subsidized subsidiaries in Ukraine, and what will Russia expect in this case?

Have you come from daughters?

[vorobey]

Quote: rosarioagro

And the government of the Russian Federation subsidized banks, and those, in turn, subsidized subsidiaries in Ukraine, and what will Russia expect in this case?

In addition to Sberbank, tell us which banks operate in Ukraine ..

[Eternal Watch]

Quote: vorobey

In addition to Sberbank, tell us which banks operate in Ukraine ..

in my opinion, it’s still VTB, but it doesn’t matter, it’s important that these two largest banks of the Russian Federation are NOT in the Crimea, i.e. on the outskirts there, but on the territory of Russia no!

[Tanais]

Quote: The Eternal Vigil

in my opinion, it’s still VTB, but it doesn’t matter, it’s important that these two largest banks of the Russian Federation are NOT in the Crimea, i.e. on the outskirts there, but on the territory of Russia no!

MOPankles forMOPpoke , on its own territory ... A-II-I ...

[Eternal Watch]

Quote: Tanais

SANCTIONS PICK lol, on their own territory ... A-II-I ...

on the other hand, the cheeks are inflated with a krymnyaya yashshsh, and in order to withdraw money from the Sberov card, Nuna through the crossing, coast-left, coast-right.
It would seem that 15 minutes, but no, the heavily used Bush Greek ferries, with quickly painted names, are not very suitable for transporting people, elevators do not work, there are four steep iron stairs leading to the cargo deck along the sides, and people with children and suitcases. ..etc. etc.

[vorobey]

Quote: The Eternal Vigil

heavily used greek ferries

do not grind the blizzard about strongly bushy .. 93 -95 years ..

Quote: The Eternal Vigil

for transporting people are not very suitable, elevators do not work, on the sides are four steepest iron

Yemsky and Kerch2 in this respect have succeeded more ... you didn’t live at the crossing for two days that year .. and I hung there from spring .. euphoria ended?

[the polar]

Well, if our "great, powerful and unsurpassed" cannot force the so-called "state banks" VTB and Sberbank, which violate the constitutional rights of Russian citizens, to stop segregating Crimeans on a territorial basis, then he is de facto a "president with limited powers" working under the control financial oligarchy.

[vorobey]

Quote: Eternal Watch

Quote: vorobey

In addition to Sberbank, tell us which banks operate in Ukraine ..

in my opinion, it’s still VTB, but it doesn’t matter, it’s important that these two largest banks of the Russian Federation are NOT in the Crimea, i.e. on the outskirts there, but on the territory of Russia no!

I already mentioned banks in the Crimea .. there is a clear strategy .. RNKB occupies the offices of Sberbank subsidiaries and almost immediately came under sanctions from the Crimea ... RNKB is the landing party that prepared the bridgehead for Sberbank .. I think Sberbank will be entering at the same time .. look at the colors and logos of Sberbank and RNKB ... that’s briefly so.

not a single private bank from Russia in Ukraine is a risk ..

[Eternal Watch]

Quote: vorobey

this is briefly so.

not quite so, also briefly ...
As long as the Russian Federation does not have its own payment system, then .... what kind of sovereignty can be discussed if, for example, real sanctions are imposed tomorrow ..., and not the bugbear that is used to fool the townsfolk ...

[vorobey]

Quote: The Eternal Vigil

While the Russian Federation will not have its own payment system, then ....

but the task is set ... the foreign lobby is slowing down, but is the process going on?

[Eternal Watch]

Quote: vorobey

but is the process going?

as the famous character said: "The main thing is to start and the process will go"
I’ll tell you right away the situation in Crimea is not ice .., the prices came completely Russian with a plus of 20 percent, but zp and pensions for now ......
The people are scalded by the prices (I don’t take those who rent out housing, they generally seem to be “red” or “white” anyway), minibuses are now 10 rubles (for the continental Russian Federation), and the locals are already starting to buzz, but when prices for housing and communal services will catch up, so the "fun" will begin ..
Now for kopeck piece in Kerch housing and communal services about 1 thousand per month. but the process has begun ...

[Tanais]

Quote: The Eternal Vigil

Now for kopeck piece in Kerch housing and communal services about 1 thousand per month. but the process has begun ...

The process WHERE? To improvement, or ...

[Eternal Watch]

Quote: Tanais

The process WHERE? To improvement, or ...

We have a process, starting with the labeled one that constantly goes along one route

[Tanais]

Quote: The Eternal Vigil

We have a process, starting with the labeled one that constantly goes along one route

Tear the skin from the people.

I understood you...

[vorobey]

Quote: Eternal Watch

Quote: vorobey

but is the process going?

as the famous character said: "The main thing is to start and the process will go"
I’ll tell you right away the situation in Crimea is not ice .., the prices came completely Russian with a plus of 20 percent, but zp and pensions for now ......
The people are scalded by the prices (I don’t take those who rent out housing, they generally seem to be “red” or “white” anyway), minibuses are now 10 rubles (for the continental Russian Federation), and the locals are already starting to buzz, but when prices for housing and communal services will catch up, so the "fun" will begin ..
Now for kopeck piece in Kerch housing and communal services about 1 thousand per month. but the process has begun ...

I also know the situation in Crimea well .. I have a mother-in-law in Simferopol and have been there for almost the entire 14 year since spring ... and this year but less often ... and who said that the ice will be ... immediately and eternal ... given that for 23 years Crimea was drained and you know it perfectly .. I served in the 90s there and there is something to compare .. one road is Kerch - Feodosia is in good shape ... yes everywhere, to the Khokhlyat border it’s the same sloppiness ... I’m silent about whose industry has practically disappeared in Crimea over the years ... but there were flagships ..

[Eternal Watch]

Quote: vorobey

one road is Kerch - Feodosia is in good shape as it is ... yes everywhere there is the same vigilance to the Khokhlyat border ... I am silent about the industry which has practically disappeared in Crimea over the years ... and there were flagships ..

totally agree

[Tanais]

Quote: vorobey

I'm talking about banks in Crimea already .. there is a clear strategy ..

You apparently missed one important word ... "there is a clear BYPASS strategy" ...

As the ex-president of UA Leonid Kravchuk - "Between the droplets, in the rain" ... On its territory ...

It is not surprising that having "burned" in the Crimea, Russia is now "blowing" where it should and where not ...

[Tanais]

Quote: vorobey

In addition to Sberbank, tell us which banks operate in Ukraine ..

VTB, Alfabank, and some more.

But I think these THREE, LARGE, are enough? No need to "read out the entire list"?

[_Evgeny_]

At least also VTB and BM Bank. These are the ones that I remember at a glance ...

[Tanais]

Quote: vorobey

In addition to Sberbank, tell us which banks operate in Ukraine ..

And why, in fact, did you ask this question? Wanted to further develop the idea? I and others answered your question.

So let's "develop" ...

[vorobey]

Quote: Tanais

Why, in fact, did you ask this question? Would you like to develop the idea further? Me and others have answered your question. So let's "develop" ...

and what to develop .. do you get a pension .. compatriots from Russia transfer your money ... or has trade completely between countries already stopped?

four banks all work in Ukraine ... and so ...

[Tanais]

Quote: vorobey

four banks all work in Ukraine ... and so ...

I’m not sure that only four, but I won’t search, it’s enough that it is the FOUR BIGGEST BANKS (I won’t look for their market share in the Russian Federation).

That's WHAT ...

[vorobey]

Quote: Tanais

Quote: vorobey

four banks all work in Ukraine ... and so ...

I’m not sure that only four, but I won’t search, it’s enough that it is the FOUR BIGGEST BANKS (I won’t look for their market share in the Russian Federation).

That's WHAT ...

moreover, here is the market share in the Russian Federation ... in Ukraine, you see ... are you not sure? - cross yourself ..

[Tanais]

Quote: vorobey

moreover, here is the market share in the Russian Federation ... in Ukraine, you see ... are you not sure? - cross yourself ..

I will not even strain and look for something to "bring".

I know that the share is not small. For these "supernumerary" banks would not have been found in Yukraine, if they had not had profits ...

Or are they a "Russian outpost" in the economic struggle against the junta? And I don’t understand that they are crushing the financial system of Ukraine from the inside day and night?

Then you, devote to the results of their activities.

I, DOG, I do not see ...

[vorobey]

Quote: Tanais

I will not even strain and look to "bring" something. I know that the share is not small. For these "supernumerary" banks would not have been found in Ukraine if they had not had profits ... Or are they a "Russian outpost"? And I don’t understand that they are crushing the financial system of Ukraine from the inside day and night.

weighty argument - you simply do not own the information and this share is not so hot ..

no, destroy it when you receive a pension from Ukraine ... you answer if you start issuing Russian passports because you have to donate something .. either a passport or a pension ... you can’t apply for two pensions according to the Russian passport.

[Tanais]

Quote: vorobey

no, destroy it when you receive a pension from Ukraine ... you answer if you start issuing Russian passports because you have to donate something .. either a passport or a pension ... you can’t apply for two pensions according to the Russian passport.

I already wrote to you in a "personal" that she burned with a blue flame, a Ukrainian pension, along with a passport.

Give ONE, and work, I can still work ...

And do not rush with passports. Bad news comes from Donetsk and Lugansk.

Trainee guys crusts, to whom we entrusted our fates ...

But more about that later. Otherwise, inflate SUCH ...

[vorobey]

Quote: Tanais

Trainee guys crusts, to whom we entrusted our fates ...

no it's not them .. it's the bonds of Minsk ..

[Tanais]

Quote: vorobey

no it's not them .. it's the bonds of Minsk ..

I will deal with the information, and I will report on what "shalaput" shackles ...

We will not drive ... horses.

[vorobey]

Quote: Tanais

We will not drive ... horses.

this is something new ... but nonetheless ...

[Tanais]

Quote: vorobey

this is something new ... but nonetheless ...

New for you. For me, the usual verification of information. The information is complex and contradictory. Such that until I figured out what, where ...

[Nikoha.2010]

Quote: Tanais

The information is complex and contradictory. Such that until I figured out what, where ...

Tanais, hi bro! What did you not make out? Ukrina kills all those who disagree, Russia buries cheese on TV, sends humanitarian aid to Novorossia, tries to put out the fires that have spread, rescues zoos, makes friends with China ... And your children went to school! Winter is coming! The worst thing is that everyone is already used to and no one cares how much he suffered and died and continues to die. So brains zasrati that no one pays attention. Everyone in their kitchen is laughing and do not care. Hold on, just hold on and God bless you!

[lukewarm]

Business - was and will be a traitor to the homeland, because it has one homeland - profit. At least in the First World War, even now. We would not have won the Great Patriotic War if we had a different system. And about sber ... Ha, but he does not work in the Crimea (see the entertaining interview of the count). I came across an interesting picture, it seems from the Czech Republic (even before this mess), What kind of interest on loans does he have, Sberbank. You will be smejatstsa!

[Loner_53]

Quote: rosarioagro

And the government of the Russian Federation subsidized banks, and those, in turn, subsidized subsidiaries in Ukraine, and what will Russia expect in this case?

judging by the photo, then in passing And then you have to go and drag another suitcase with oligarchic libbery

[Dave36]

The author means that Russia can only react ... to parry, but not play from a position of strength ...

[pts-m]

kahlam just remains to wait for “occupation” by Russia, since no one else will give anything for free. and for ordinary citizens of Russia this urine-ruin is not needed in x .., at least I speak for myself.

[Mother Theresa]

A bit strange article.

[Dima Čalevo]

But what does the author suggest, I don’t understand? send in troops, or stop subsidizing their economy with cheap gas, make a final mess there? Does the author want an even greater influx of hungry and angry refugee peasants? (I think it’s clear to everyone where they will go)

[akm8226]

You need to beat at the right time ... but not before. Well - we took and rolled all the APU into the asphalt - this is not even discussed - but MORE? And then a damn cloud of hungry people, the collapse of everything that could be destroyed - industry, agriculture, science, housing and communal services ... and so on throughout the list. And who will restore it all? I know who we are Russians. As always - poherim their interests and will be hunchbacked for Mykola with Galya. But sho - Mykola and Galya are disabled? Without arms without legs? Of course, the easiest way is to become in a pose and demand from us - feed me only because I don’t arise against you. Similarly, refugees from Syria in Europe are now doing it.
And a reasonable question - do we need this? Leave the drooling for liberals about fraternal assistance to the Slavic people - for the most part, gentlemen, Ukrainians will shoot us in the back. We are OFFICIALLY an enemy number one time for stolen goods, are we not enough? What else is needed evidence of hostility ukrov? Declaration of war? So wait. No, ladies and gentlemen - let them pan themselves, with their own hands, they’ll fuck what they’ve broken. SAMI. WITHOUT US. And we'll see. For betrayal among all nations must be punished. They themselves climbed in, they themselves betrayed the Russians - let them scoop out themselves. And it will be like a proverb - you want to make the enemy do good to man.

[vorobey]

Quote: akm8226

For betrayal among all nations must be punished. They themselves climbed in, they themselves betrayed the Russians - let them scoop out themselves. And it will be like a proverb - you want to make the enemy do good to man.

[34 region]

What does Russia expect? I think we have a situation of the 30s of the last century. The threats are the same. The economy is not on the rise. The army is not very (as the exercises of 36 years and the Finnish campaign showed). Enter Ukraine, the Baltic states, Georgia and the territories of other sufferers? This is suicide. And Russia itself constantly asks for help, help dear investors, invest in Russia. It feels like waiting for a good uncle who will solve all our problems. And then we can help someone. Personally, I see the situation this way.

[cte power]

The author incites us to get a bunch of problems.
Actually, the Kiev junta wants Russia’s entry into the Donbass - that’s what it was all about
we need to establish the status quo with the Donbass
strengthen the line of defense of the militias and establish humanitarian issues
and for now all
Now, when Galya and mykola YOURSELF rise, if the brain is turned on, from Todi, and we will connect — by the hands of the Ukrainian people — helping him — we will destroy the junta
in the meantime, let her sharpen herself

[vyinemeynen]

I join

[meriem1]

Why not sell gas and coal? Varge in the mind at all? WE DO NOT WAR. Or does the same Varja compensate for the losses to the social budget of Russia ??? You can crush krajin quickly .. only nobody needs it.

In the current conditions, the agony of Ukraine can last for many years. The peoples of Africa, Asia, Latin America in a state of chronic agony live for decades.

Well, if they tolerate, then apparently it is necessary. Not our pies. We endured from the 90s .. until we woke up and did not understand what a calico is. They will not see clearly, so they will go to Europe to scrub the toilet bowls and trade in a piggy bank .... If they are allowed to go. Or they will remember that they are the same Russians and will sweep away this power. Which is easier.

[34 region]

Meriem! 15.07. Where will they go? There already all places will be occupied by refugees from democracy. In my opinion, they are only for us.

[Thomas]

I did not expect this from the Vajra.
A regiment of sufferers arrived, and all you need to do is think carefully and compare the facts.
First, Russia does not wait, but acts. The existence of LDNR is the most obvious proof of this.
Secondly, the rearmament of the Russian Armed Forces continues. New units are being formed (for example, the 20 Army in Boguchar, an example of this. Consequently, preparations are underway.
Thirdly, Putin doesn’t just go to parades to see, but actively participates in establishing new contacts and signing agreements.
And so on.

[1536]

In Russia, a health care reform is underway, and orderlies in psychiatric hospitals are expensive, especially since hopeless cases require only gas injections and cancellation of debts for "treatment" and that's it.
And sanctions against Russia would be imposed anyway, whether in connection with Ukraine, with Crimea, or with the exploration of the moon and flight to Mars. Because the world suddenly, as they say now, a trend has appeared that Russia must be stopped, that right now there is the last chance for it, otherwise Russia will swallow Europe, and will organize order in the Middle East in its own way, which neither the UK nor the USA (those who control them, of course) can not admit under any guise. Then they soon also shine kirdyk. Hence the whistle. This trend was entrusted, as it is supposed, to be carried out by figures from the former union republics of the USSR, or, for the most part, by their children and household members who were educated, as a rule, in subversive terrorist centers in the USA and Western Europe, for some reason calling themselves universities. Who taught them what is understandable. And the result of this training is evident: the fascist structures of NATO are already at our very borders and threaten in the same way as Hitler threatened us with his Wehrmacht. It is strange that they still do not distribute our land and have not outlined a list of cities for renaming, for example, Nizhny Novgorod to Candoliso-Raisk, and Yekaterinburg to Obamovsk or Clintonburg. Hitler ordered to rename Smolensk to Bokburg (named after Field Marshal Bok, who besieged the city), now it will be Bushburg, most likely. Such is the trend.

[Polkanov]

... Russia is focusing. Gorchakov, Chancellor ...

[tolyasik0577]

Wait, wait and direct events in the right direction. It is necessary, as I believe, that the Russophobian part fell off from Ukraine and only the Little Russian remains. The one that will become a reliable buffer zone in Moscow. Gradually, the entire western part of Bandera-fascist will begin to demand sovereignty from the center.
and then Russia will take under its wing the eastern, about the Russian part. Fuck the Ukrainian in his own skin will understand where the brothers are.

[lecturer]

I observe everything that is happening around Ukraine now and ask myself the same question: WHAT IS MOSCOW WAITING FOR?

The answer is simple, WAITING for the "brother-crest" to sleep it off after a 20-year-old drunkenness ... Pity their children, sorry for their old people, sorry for their women, sorry ... after all, MOTHER !!!
P / S. Although you do not understand this "auto" ...

[zenith]

Quote: Vladimirets

Quote: vorobey
for a clear conscience ..

Shaw, again ?? !! belay

What a club of interests. And so that everyone read without fail. You can not get on a bad ICQ? And knock on Claudia before losing. No, no, yes and there are fellow soldiers ... ooo Vaska hello. Yes hello without cutlets.

[RiverVV]

The author is stupid, naive and asks stupid questions. :)
Here you will finish building the battalion railway line through Millerovo and see what Russia expects. The only reasonable explanation for the assignment of this construction site to the military is that it must be done efficiently and urgently. So urgent that it can’t be entrusted to civilian contractors and in addition to weld the dough. The purpose of this branch is rokada and it is needed for maneuvering with equipment.
As soon as it is completed, it will be possible to transfer armored vehicles through the Russian territory. The strike will be delivered not in areas fortified by Ukraine, but from the LPR along the Russian border and further to Slavyansk with fire support from Russian territory. The entire northern group of ukrov will be in the boiler.
The branch is likely to be completed by winter. We stock up on popcorn ...

[3vs]

And what does the author offer us?
I think the options are being calculated in the center.
The crowding out of the opposing side beyond the borders of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions is indispensable,
Jewish children and their arrogant curators will not give local residents anyway
live normally.
And among the local population there is no such rallying as in the Great Patriotic War,
do not hear from all windows "Get up, huge country, get up to mortal battle ...",
there are no posters "Everything for the front, everything for victory" ..., the people are split.
And, I think, Putin is also talking about himself and about this disaster as about "Kursk" -
"I want to howl from powerlessness to do something!"

[victorrat]

In fact, the author is trying to deceive us !!! And here the Donbass, when all the sanctions are due to the Crimea. And we won’t give up Crimea, Krymnash!
To answer that to endless lies?
What do they say in nickname: Colorado?
Laugh that we are quilted jackets yet?
To murderers, thieves who play like ravens
How to show that we are happy with our country?

The country that defeated fascism
The one that was able to create, not destroy,
The one that took and abolished communism,
Although I wanted to, but they shouted: pluralism,
And democracy hit in the ears.

What else to give to reassure them
Wishing to burn us for something,
They’re building a wall repeating a myth,
Fascist myth, Nazi myth,
Ponad truncated, and Heil screamed to vomit.

Who taught them and gave them hatred
And more jealousy for more successful?
After all, they got the richest capital,
From the former homeland, no one interfered,
They stole what they need, sinners?

What besides envy? Aggressor and grin
And they themselves ask, the CIS does not leave,
As before, they learned that two sucked.
Bandera essence, Hitler ideal,
Enemies for the world, but do not understand.

[sw6513]

Russia does not do anything right. For two decades, that country has nothing to do with ours except hostility. And in general, why should they help when they are about to decide their own path ..

[DobryAAH]

Russia just takes time and is rearming. Putin and Russia - now Stalin and the USSR 1937. The moment will come anyway, it will have to fit in with Ukraine, the West will not leave everything in limbo. Only the state of the army will be higher than the current level. But Ukraine is only the beginning. The West knows our fist in full. It’s not so long to wait, the West wants to play tricks in the World Cup.

[ingenera]

What is Moscow waiting for? The question, of course, is interesting ... But what is the author waiting for? An independent (as they think) country itself must solve its problems. This is my opinion. Ahead of winter ... maybe wiser? Yes, and in the West, it seems played enough of all this. They have enough of their problems now.

[lukewarm]

Urkaina is not a pretext for an attack on Russia, as the author claims, but the attack itself. Sanctions? Yes, if it were not for the liberoids in the government, then there is only one benefit from them, we have another reason to level the onerous conditions for joining the WTO (we just entered there, was it really not clear how it would end?) but for a long time. And if you look closely, then it did not stop. It was "we" who pretended that it did not exist, while the West, under the guise of "friendship", milked us to a cent by means of "our" oligarchs, wrote us a "constitution" and carried out privatization. Was that all OK? Not rolling? And the 888 war was not against us? Under the most liberal Dmitry Anatolyevich. But did "kagbe" begin with urkaina? It seems that the author is quite famous, but something can be seen clicked in his head and the wrong puzzle was formed.

[178]

It often happens that you need to wait. And seizing the moment, right to the point. Just as it was with the Crimea.
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[KBPC50]

A sad photograph, only she photograph is more like waiting America, more precisely USA. And after all, it will wait, it will wait for something that is no longer interesting to anyone ...

[v.yegorov]

I don’t understand why do we need to jump into the fire with our bare ass? The most interesting thing is to watch them rage when we sit upright.

You don’t need to jump, sitting upright is wonderful. The question is different, why
to support the economy not of a fraternal people, but of a likely enemy, judging by their military doctrine? Again, the wise make money, justifying it with lofty goals, to the detriment of Russia.

[digo]

What is Russia waiting for? And it could be like in that joke:
Barak meets with Merkel.
Merkel:
- When Putin speaks for a long time, you can listen so that you forget about all the problems.
Obama:
- Yeah. And when he is silent for a long time, generally obroz ..., I'm sorry, you can do it ....

[178]

And I heard that the "White House" was repainted black. And now it is called "Barack Obama." Is it true or not? Who will clarify?
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[Neophyte]

It’s better to wait and see the EU’s agony! Great migration from the 3rd world countries will tear apart European values ​​in the coming years, and beggars like Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia, choking on the promises of their former owners, will turn into
community of savages.

[31rus]

It’s an interesting question, it’s impossible to say unequivocally, it’s also that Russia can once again tear Ukraine away, about an unfavorable economic, political crisis, about internal problems, so Russia is waiting right now, alas, yes, yes, yes, it can blow Russia up , so actions must be thought out once and not only with Ukraine

[Edvagan]

Suppose we ruined Ukraine and annexed it whole. How much will it cost us? We are struggling to restore Crimea, and here 45 million new residents — give everyone work, restructuring and medicine, pay pensions to all at the Russian level. Maybe the right decision is to digest Ukraine in parts. As, incidentally, our ancestors did before.

[Alcoholic]

When preparing a good tomato sauce, you need to boil well.
The foam is removed continuously.
And try not to interfere
This is how I say special
If mixed, the final product will remain bitterness.
Boil should be long enough.
Otherwise, Mr. But will not come out.
So in this matter.

[vorobey]

Quote: Alcoholic

When preparing a good tomato sauce, you need to boil well.

The namesake .. handsome ... it's like a lover of vodka to an alcoholic I say ..

[Alcoholic]

Yes ... I forgot.
Then, climbing the Khokhlostan sites and walking around swearing, I noticed a quite positive thing.
They (maydanutykh) full of discord and depress.
Nothing intelligible except "Russia is to blame-aggressor" and there is nothing.

[vorobey]

Quote: Alcoholic

Yes ... I forgot.
Then, climbing the Khokhlostan sites and walking around swearing, I noticed a quite positive thing.
They (maydanutykh) full of discord and depress.
Nothing intelligible except "Russia is to blame-aggressor" and there is nothing.

I recently communicated with one Svidomo got a good shower from neo ... it is interesting that he communicates with others exclusively with obscenities, and when we started with him reasonably and with a sense, everything quieted down and just watched .. so he said this phrase - you will howl from that the number of majors and lumpens who were sheltered from the southeast ... and a paradox, but he's right ... when faced with "refugees" in everyday life, for some reason I want to punish them ..

[GX1]

No one understands what kind of game the Kremlin plays and whether it plays at all. But according to the results for today, this is the path to the full platter of the twenty-millionth Southeast and Ukraine in general. I don’t believe in the collapse of Ukraine, the opposition is not there, and the Kremlin does not formulate an external opposition, or does not know how. In short, the DLNR bridgehead was ineffective and unnecessary.

[for]

Well, if we only assume that according to forecasts the situation on the planet is approaching a certain point, after which development will go in the direction of a), b), or c). Like in that tale:
- you’ll go to the left, you’ll be married;
- you’ll go straight and lose a horse;
- you’ll go to the right, save the horse, and lose your head.
And now, as soon as you understand what kind of a fork this is, it will immediately become clear that Russia is a bit detached from active participation in international affairs, it will become clear what Russia is waiting for and why it does not want to spread rot on the Ukrainian people, despite all the tricks of the maydan.
But what kind of a fork is this - it is a question of questions.

[Shiva83483]

Quote: Vladimirets

However, Russia is waiting ...

But you can’t just watch how it all ends?

Sometimes, only sometimes inaction is equated with an act. In the case of the so-called brothers, this is just the case .... no matter how regrettable this sounds.

[for]

Quote: GX1

No one understands what kind of game the Kremlin is playing ....

So it’s good that they don’t understand, surprised, that means he won.

[samoletil18]

I am surprised by the abundance of comments in the delirium described in the article.

[AdekvatNICK]

What is Russia waiting for? It’s waiting for itself, I didn’t understand the author. Look. Crimea is ours. Donbass is resisting, and they are not firing in the center. And China? and import substitution? and the supply of new weapons, but what about the Arctic !? Yes Schaub we always have to wait))

[samarin1969]

Such "Vladimirs" could be driven to Gorlovka for observation ...

[Earnest]

In one paragraph we read that you need to work patiently, because:

And when you are looking for something for a very long time, you will find it sooner or later.

.
in the other - that you can’t stand it anymore, but:

However, Russia is waiting ...

Therefore, I agree with:

Quote: samoletil18

I am surprised by the abundance of comments on the delirium described in the article.

[dropout]

Quote: Halfunra

Vajara a provocateur, he didn’t write anything significant, but he cast a shadow on the fence

You don’t have to run into Andrey. He’s gotten sick. Here he wants a quick solution.

[79807420129]

Author minus with minus, if so hunting to fight, you can go to the Donbass and join the militias.

[fa2998]

Quote: Vladimir K

taxes come to the budget of Moscow from firms registered there. Production of many of them are in the regions. Social taxes and the local budget leaked to the center

And the natural monopolies that do business all over Russia (they earn money) -and taxes-to Moscow, where the central office is. When Mr. Abramovich was the "chief of Chukotka", he moved the place of registration of his business to Anadyr. the city is noticeably prettier! Moscow is a huge bag of money, I don’t want to drink! Sometimes individual projects of the Moscow government, you think that money has nowhere to go !!

[Gelitch]

Fast, only cats give birth.

[Alfizik]

I did not expect such an article from this author. Tired man ... Tired of waiting. But the situation cannot be resolved in one go. The situation is too difficult. And the meaning of Russia's "inaction" is obvious: our "inaction" is the most effective action. Why is the US getting hot? Because the forces are not the same! The strength is running out ... And the further, the ... The more you get excited, the more mistakes. Wow, how soon everything will be turned around! It's already started. And the Americans will not find holes in Russia. They do not count their own and new ones appear. Take a closer look at the leadership of the LDNR: they are calm, they are in the know, they, of course, have been informed of certain Knowledge. We don't have to do anything! The West shits and shits in the same diaper. Into your diaper.

[Yarik]

Russia is waiting

Hmmm...waiting. Until the president (oligarch) breaks up with the oligarchs (friends?!) (? ). And he will bet on domestic industry. And yes, oil, gas, dollars. Greetings at the upcoming gubernatorial elections in the glorious city of Smolensk to the candidate from United Russia personally from me and many others I know.

[wanderer987]

Apparently, the familiar situation of “Force to implement the Minsk agreements” will soon ripen. Kyiv, in the person of Parashenko, is no longer able to control anything and it was not initially intended to do so; it has another task, now the time has come for the responsibility of those who were, so to speak, the guarantors of these agreements, and specifically Germany and France, as well as everyone who imposed sanctions against the Russian Federation, it’s time to expose them account with interest on the Russian side, so that they also think about what they signed and what they got into, otherwise it turns out to be a situation of a “nipple” system, then it will be possible to talk about the responsibility of everyone to everyone!!!

[ZKB]

Comrades, in my opinion, Russia is not waiting for anything, Russia is acting!!! The stupidest thing now would be to help our partners disrupt the redivision of the world by showing reinforced concrete behavior towards Ukraine. Ukraine, like ISIS, are irritants created by mattress makers, designed to escalate tensions in Europe and Asia. Well, no one needs this poor Ukraine as part of the EU or a natural resource base. Ukraine is an opportunity to weaken Russia, and by provoking sharp attacks, to prevent the redistribution of the world economy. ISIS has the same goal - oil disasters. Have you noticed how Turkey is drawn into the fight against ISIS after the gas agreements??? Why is Russia needed to be isolated? So that it does not get closer to China and India. We would have resolved the Ukrainian issue a long time ago by forcing it to peace, but... now we need to promote ties with China, India, and BRICS. To do this, you need to be on the world stage, and not behind an iron fence. Uncle Sam's time is running out... Russia is waiting

[Butt]

victorrat (1) SU Bravo! And to the point. The author of the article is a provocateur on the side of the fight. In helping the Russian people in Donbass - he is zero!
This is a twist of indifference to the suffering of women and children.
The writer Bruno Yasensky was right when he said: Do not be afraid of enemies, their meanness can be defeated, beware of unstable friends, they can betray. The main thing is to be afraid of the indifferent, because only with their tacit consent do meanness and betrayal exist!
Something like this.

[duchy]

In the current conditions, Ukraine’s agony may last for many years. The peoples of Africa, Asia, and Latin America live in a state of chronic agony for decades. Therefore, the people of Ukraine will simply live in bloody shit and endure the government that drove them into this. Because he has no choice.

You are wrong here there is always a choice.
Russia is waiting for the “people of Ukraine” to get tired of living "in bloody shit and endure that power" and all this itself will bury deep and forever. Then it will be possible to talk and make some decisions. IMHO