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Lessons from a single financial attack on the USSR

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Lessons from a single financial attack on the USSR



Russia is not the first time trying to break up by economic methods

Surface analysis of economics and stories - a huge misfortune for modern society. An article published by Bloomberg, “The fate of the Soviet Union will not befall Russia,” is a graphic confirmation of this. Moreover, which is typical, at first glance, the name is correct, and the facts are mentioned almost true, but here are the conclusions ... However, we will not run ahead, comparing to the authors of the mentioned material. Let us examine everything in order: what was the economy of the USSR in reality? Is it worth something to learn from her? And finally, what will really help Russia to avoid the fate of a state that no longer exists?

What was wrong in the USSR


According to the author (our compatriot with you, by the way), the USSR made only four serious mistakes. First, it depended unnecessarily on export earnings for oil. Secondly, too much of this very oil was supplied barter to partners in Eastern Europe and too little to Western countries for money. Thirdly, a huge proportion of the income received was spent on the purchase of grain due to the inefficiency of its own agriculture. Fourthly, the role of ideology and politics in the USSR turned out to be too high, which did not allow for timely and adequate response to all changes not only in the world, but also within the country itself.

Now Russia does not limit itself to ideology and therefore, it receives more money from the export of hydrocarbons, is less dependent on food imports and pursues a more pragmatic foreign and domestic economic policy, the author argues. And it turns out that all this is the result of the subjective decisions of one person. Putin decided that it would be beneficial for Russia to devalue the ruble, and, without hesitation, he did so, despite the negative consequences of this step for social programs and the living standards of citizens. This is, of course, better than the inaction of the Soviet leadership in the face of the global challenges of its time, but it is still a risky tactic, although it allows the country, thanks to the President’s determination, to hope to withstand the impending economic storm.

Familiar picture, right? Most of the domestic media has long been drawing us the same thing without prompting from American colleagues. With one difference, that credit is attributed not to the president, but to the Central Bank, which, by the way, makes decisions independently of the government. But that's not the point; the point is that both versions are very far from reality, but in reality everything looked very different.

Economy


We should start with the fact that, in principle, in the world there are no two identical economies. Although each country solves the same task - increasing its level of well-being, it has to do it in its own way, taking into account individual specifics. For example, Norway and Saudi Arabia have oil, and Switzerland or Gabon do not have it. Sudan is five times the size of Ukraine by territory, but at the same time it is several times inferior to it in terms of area and fertility of arable land. The capacity of China’s domestic market is much larger than in Belgium, as it exceeds it 130 times in terms of population. For these and hundreds of other parameters, each economy is almost a piece by piece and requires thoughtfulness and extreme caution when comparing.

The Soviet Union was no exception. And the matter is not even in ideology; Objective circumstances compelled the USSR to design its own unique economic model, which was very limited in terms of Western assessment rulers, especially in their modern interpretation. And the expression “Soviet economy” itself, to put it mildly, is incorrect, since its structure and indicators have changed greatly throughout the history of the USSR.

Between 1928 and 1940, the Soviet economy increased by more than 60%. If we consider that in the same years in the States, due to the Great Depression, the volume of GDP fell by 33%, the Soviet Union at that time was the world champion in that indicator. But then, as a result of the war, the country lost 25% of national wealth. 1700 cities and towns, 70 thousands of villages and villages, 32 thousands of plants and factories were partially or completely destroyed. After Churchill’s Fulton speech in 1946, which marked the beginning of the Cold War, the Soviet Union’s foreign trade with the West fell by 35%, which caused the economy a finishing blow. Naturally, about any primacy of speech was no longer going.

In fact, the Soviet economy, about which they like to speak today as something integral and unified from the moment of the formation of the Union and up to its last days, was re-created in the period from 1950 to 1975. This is not taken into account by a respected analyst speaking on behalf of Bloomberg. Like many others, he considers the performance of 1980-x - the beginning of 1990-x as a constant that characterizes the Soviet economy throughout its existence, and does not take into account the most important stages of its formation, at which time a number of strategic mistakes were made.

Disadvantages as a continuation of the merits


In 1964, the Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR Dmitry Polyansky makes a report in which he speaks of clear evidence of the beginning of structural distortions in the Soviet economy. For seven years, its growth rate has halved. In industry, the share of unused fixed assets (or, more simply, idle production capacity) increased over the same period by 9%, and in agriculture, and even worse - by 21%! But most importantly, a fundamental imbalance between the so-called group A (heavy industry) and group B (light industry and consumer goods) was designated. The report noted that as far back as 1963, Group A doubled ahead of Group B in growth rates (10% per year versus 5%), as a result, in heavy industry, the USSR had 65% of the US figures, and in the light industry, only 45%.


In the electric shop of the Cherepovets Metallurgical Plant, 1970 year. Photo: Oleg Porokhovnikov / TASS

Although formally it was then decided to catch up on both indicators, actually there was only one available resource, so the imbalance between them continued to increase in the future. As a result, this led to the formation of a serious shortage of consumer goods, which, in turn, began to affect the overall labor productivity. If in 1962, the productivity increase was 5,5%, then in 1964, only 4,2% was already, and by the middle of 1980-s it fell below 1%. This led to a progressive lag behind the planned deadlines, an increase in the volume of construction and production in progress and a drop in the efficiency of the economy as a whole. Because of only “unfinished business”, which by 1963 already became one and a half times more than it was in 1958, with every five-year period, there were less and less working capital in the economy because they were simply frozen because of “unfinished projects”. "And" underdevelopment. "

So the now popular theory that the United States destroyed the USSR due to the collapse of world oil prices is, frankly, quite far from the truth. Of course, a sudden deficit in the foreign trade budget played its negative role, but it turned out to be only the last straw that broke the back of an already overloaded camel.

Pro oil export and money

If you do not go into details, then, in general, the foreign trade of the USSR was distributed along two contours: the CMEA countries (Council for Mutual Economic Assistance) and the rest, above all the Western world. Despite a serious fall at the beginning of the Cold War, the foreign trade turnover of the Soviet Union subsequently grew steadily: so, from 1951 to 1975, its total volume increased 17,3 times. We traded with 115 countries, including 13 socialist, 76 developing and 26 industrialized (capitalist).

At the same time, it is completely wrong to say that inside the CMEA we traded barter, and with Western countries for money. Trade with the countries of the socialist camp was also conducted for money. They were called translated rubles and had a gold content (0,987 grams). The difference with the rest of the trade was that the bilateral clearing mechanism was widely used within the CMEA system, which required money only for the settlement of the reporting period, that is, only the difference between the total value of the goods exported and imported by a particular country was paid. And this trade has always been mutually beneficial. Each country used its own strengths and compensated its weaknesses. For example, agriculturally developed Hungary and Bulgaria supplied food to the USSR, and received transport and industrial equipment. And so on.

As for the high share of oil in Soviet exports, there is a certain amount of truth here. On the one hand, it cannot be said that the USSR was selling only oil or only raw materials. If you look at the structure of exports from 1950 to 1975, we see that the main commodity groups were, firstly, machinery and equipment (up to 18,7%), and secondly, ores, concentrates, metals and products from them (14,3%). But, on the other hand, high oil prices quickly brought the share of fuel and electricity in exports to 31,4%.


Yuganskneft oil producing department, 1975 year. Photo: Ivan Sapozhkov / TASS

From here, by the way, the “imbalance” in the structure of industry “grows”. Group A brought the country the bulk of export earnings, and, oddly enough, it consumed almost half of all imports to the USSR (33,9% of foreign supplies accounted for machinery and equipment, that is, means of production, and 11,5% —– us types of ores and metals from them). Meanwhile, Group B clearly could not claim leadership in the export structure, and the deficit of its products was easily compensated by purchases abroad (for example, food occupied significant 23% of total imports, but only a third of the deliveries were carried out by the capitalist countries). Therefore, instead of investing in expanding its own agriculture, the USSR continued to invest in Group A and the basic infrastructure more and more. It was too expensive for one country to develop at an accelerated pace. The same BAM in 1984 prices of the year cost the country 9,6 billion rubles. For reference: all revenues from oil exports of the USSR in 1975 amounted to 7,5 billion rubles.

But something the Soviet leaders still missed. By the middle of the 1970-x in the hands of the capitalist countries, there were at once two very important for the Union "tap": oil exports, or rather the share that went to the West and brought the 1 / 3 to the USSR all of its foreign trade revenue, and grain imports, the main part which came from the USA and Canada and, accordingly, was paid by currency (the same foreign trade revenue).

How have we eaten


Someone clever at the CIA was able to correctly match the three points. First, the escalation of capital construction rates and the progressing volume of “unfinished business” will force the USSR to continue financing projects even in the face of a shortage of income. The long-term construction in the country turned into something like a bottomless barrel. Second, as the efficiency of domestic production declined, dependence on export revenues for oil became critical. Trade inside the CMEA provided the participants with the necessary goods and services, increased the level of production and consumption, but generated too little free money that could be invested in other projects. Thirdly, the occurrence of grain outages automatically attracted a decrease in the volume and productivity of the meat and dairy industry. The lack of shoes can somehow be experienced, but the shortage of food will be noticed immediately.

The plan worked. The fall in world oil prices has reduced the flow of free money into the Soviet economy even more. All three factors earned a minus. The USSR tried to compensate for the losses by increasing the volume of production and export of all the same oil, but it began to eat up the additional volume of the already deficient currency. And it would be okay if everything became catastrophically bad right away, at one moment. What then, that now we, perhaps, remain the best in the world in terms of the ability to mobilize in a critical situation. But, unfortunately, the decline of the economy was too slow. Therefore, the USSR did not get out: it created a feeling of only temporary difficulties that could be completely overcome. And the scale of the economy was too large to understand where the consequences of someone's personal carelessness are manifested, and where the system was knocked down by fundamental errors in the management strategy.

Serious help in the collapse of the Soviet economy was, for example, the fact that, for political reasons, the USSR distributed $ 130 to $ 160 billion loans to developing countries. This is roughly 21,97% of Soviet Union GDP for 1975 a year. When the country needed money, it was not possible to return almost anything from the loan.

The traditional imbalance between the level of production and consumption in different republics of the USSR made its own negative contribution to the situation. As early as in 1985, the RSFSR gave 15,5% of income to support its less productive neighbors in the Union, and by 1990, this share reached 32,5%. In addition to it, Belarus was a stable donor (on average, 25%) and in some years Kazakhstan (12,7%). All other regions have consistently lived beyond their means. Ukraine consumed 6,6% more than it produced itself. Uzbekistan spent three times more in 1989 than it earned. In 1990, Georgia consumed $ 41,9 thousand per person per year for its own production at $ 10,6 thousand. Stable high social imbalance was observed in the Baltic States. Consumption in Estonia exceeded domestic production by 1,68 times, in Latvia - by 1,63 times, in Lithuania - by 1,67 times. And they firmly believed that they had completely earned every penny of themselves. Having, say, in 1990, the volume of consumption per person is only $ 11,8 thousand per year (at production of $ 17,5 thousand) of the RSFSR looked like a beggar in the eyes of well-fed Latvians (consumption - $ 26,9 thousand, its own production - $ 16,5 thousand).


In the workshop for the production of nylon fabric of the Kursk plant of synthetic fibers, 1967 year. Photo: Oleg Sizov / TASS

In short, the welfare of the rest of the country was provided by the donation of the economy of the RSFSR, and the impossibility of abandoning it for a number of reasons, including ideological ones, led to the continued consumption of resources.

Homework


As can be seen from the above, reducing the collapse of the Union only to the primitive “oil prices have fallen, so the USSR ran out of money” - it's like calling a mining truck an ordinary garden wheelbarrow. The point was not in the money itself, but in the strategic decisions underlying the design, and the principles of the functioning of the Soviet economy as a whole. In order not to step on the same rake a second time, you should learn some lessons.

First, ideology should not interfere with the economy. More precisely, political considerations are obliged to flow from economic with the obligatory preservation of full parity in relations. So far, an example of current relations with Ukraine shows that this lesson has been learned by the country's leadership. First the money, then the chairs.

Secondly, the country certainly needs Tanks, ballistic missiles, submarines and rolling mills, but heavy industry should still be developed while maintaining a balance with light, as the provision of housing, food and consumer goods is no less important than the balance of nuclear warheads. On this issue, in general, the situation is satisfactory. However, we need to actively develop the manufacturability of industry and manufactured goods in Russia. It is good that we have the world's largest sapphire crystal factory. But it would be nice for us to make smartphones, too. Not in order to be sure to own, but to prevent lagging in advanced technologies and for reasons of state security.

Third, food security is critical for Russia, especially in basic areas, including grain. An example of last year's harvest showed that without tough barrage measures in the form of export duties, the producers themselves still think about maximizing their own profits much more than about any other issues.

Fourthly, if we discard particulars and a beautiful wrapper, then it should be concluded that analysts from the CIA thrust the crowbar not just into the general Soviet economic mechanism, but delivered a well-adjusted, point strike to the most vulnerable spot. And the price of oil here is just a tool. The true purpose of the operation was the working capital of the entire economy of the country as a whole. Having lost them, she simply choked and collapsed under her own weight. However, since then, nothing much has changed. The goal of the current economic war is still finance, namely, circulating capital in the economy. Thus, we need to prevent its outflow, but at the same time maintain the provision of enterprises to them. At the moment, this is the most poorly learned lesson in Russia.

And, fifthly, it is necessary to stimulate the economic development of the regions and reduce, thereby, the gap in the standard of living in different parts of the country. Subsidized regions are a development resource that can and should support itself. Here you have the second poorly learned lesson from all of the above.

Well, three out of five is probably not that bad. But, you see, I would like to live on a five-point scale not only “satisfactorily”, but, in the end, at least “good.”
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  1. Pancho
    Pancho 2 September 2015 14: 14 New
    +34
    CIA analysts didn’t just dump scrap into the common Soviet economic mechanism,
    The most dangerous scrap is M.S. Gorbachev and that gang, which for some reason is called the elite in the world.
    1. I do not care
      I do not care 2 September 2015 14: 30 New
      -17

      Fourthly, if we discard particulars and a beautiful wrapper, then it should be concluded that analysts from the CIA thrust the crowbar not just into the general Soviet economic mechanism, but delivered a well-adjusted, point strike to the most vulnerable spot. And the price of oil here is just a tool. The true purpose of the operation was the working capital of the entire economy of the country as a whole. Having lost them, she simply choked and collapsed under her own weight. However, since then, nothing much has changed. The goal of the current economic war is still finance, namely, circulating capital in the economy. Thus, we need to prevent its outflow, but at the same time maintain the provision of enterprises to them. At the moment, this is the most poorly learned lesson in Russia.




      nonsense ik cherta is simply stunning. like the school year has begun?
      1. user
        user 2 September 2015 20: 27 New
        -8
        The true purpose of the operation was the working capital of the entire economy of the country as a whole.


        Working capital in the USSR, where there is no Central Bank of the Russian Federation, I have not read a funnier joke on economic topics. The author is not just not competent, but not competent about the country about which he wrote the article.
        1. user
          user 4 September 2015 12: 56 New
          -1
          It is interesting that everyone who put a minus at least understood what “working capital in the USSR” is for a country that printed rubles itself, without regard to the central bank of the Russian Federation and the SWIFT system, but with “voluntary” (if necessary) bond loans, with consumer goods an order of magnitude higher than its actual value (when it was possible to reduce the ruble mass quickly and even on credit). Inflation would have grown at a maximum (which was practically nonexistent in the USSR). Settlements between enterprises were carried out by bank transfer, direct work with foreign partners was impossible. Well, where did anyone see a decrease in "working capital". Because all this economic catastrophe was man-made, a dry law (limiting alcohol production, which is up to 30% of budget revenue), and under the curtain, so to speak, Yeltsin’s order not to transfer taxes to the Union budget (and the RF is the largest taxpayer of the USSR) offhand, the most vivid stupidity. Well, tell me how long any financial system of any country can last with this approach, and if you add the price of oil here, then the country does not have a budget. And instead of somehow correcting the situation, Gorbachev “forgave everyone and everything” and tried to be the best friend for EVERYONE, as in that fable, “well, this one like his PEOPLE” will survive.
    2. MrK
      MrK 3 September 2015 14: 57 New
      +1
      Thanks Pancho, I agree. Let me add.
      Thanks to the author. The article is interesting. An interesting, if not liberalistic approach to assessing the economic problems of the late USSR.
      I will cite the average annual prices in $ per barrel for the period 1975-1991. [Simonova. C. The military-industrial complex of the USSR in the 1920-1990 years: the rate of economic growth, structure, organization of production and management. - M.: ROSSPEN, 1996]:
      СССР, 1975-1982, Л.И.Брежнев, цена: 10-12-13-13-32-37-35-33.
      USSR, 1983-1984, K.U. Chernenko, Yu.V. Andropov, price: 30-28.
      СССР, 1985-1991, М.С.Горбачёв, цена: 27-14-18-15-18-23-20.
      РФ, 1992-1999, Б.Н.Ельцин, цена: 18-16-15-16-20-18-12-18.
      РФ, 2000-2011, В.В.Путин, Д.А.Медведев, цена: 25-28-38-54-65-72-97-61-79-110.
      The average oil price for 7 years (1978-1984) is $ 29,7.
      The average oil price for 7 years of “perestroika” (1985-1991) is $ 19,3.
      It can be seen that the average price fell 1,5 times, but not 6,1 times, as E. Gaidar lied.
      About the same data on oil revenues are given in the doctoral dissertation of the democrat M.V. Slavkina: “According to official statistics, this figure, which amounted to about $ 1965 billion in 0,67, increased and amounted to $ 1985 billion in 15,84. part of the petrodollars went ... for the acquisition of high technologies and the latest equipment ... part of the currency ... for the import of food and the purchase of consumer goods ... import at 4 positions (grain, meat, clothes and shoes) took away more than half of the currency revenue. "
      Now we will deal with grain and hunger, about which Chubais is lying.
      The price of 1 tons of grain was then $ 120, so $ 25 billion was required to purchase 3 million tons. This was a relatively small amount for the USSR. Now there is less grain produced in the Russian Federation than in the RSFSR, but since the reformers almost destroyed livestock (50% of the 1990 level), less grain is consumed for livestock feed and exported.
      Today, 60-75% of the budget revenues of the Russian Federation are income from sales of oil, gas and metals. RF ALMOST completely turned into a raw material colony of the West. Chubais is silent about this. He is also silent about the fact that before the sanctions war with the West, the Russian Federation bought only food worth 35-39 billion dollars. And about the fact that the USSR “was not able to produce competitive products”, this is a blatant lie, it’s enough to look at the structure of Soviet exports.
      The real political and economic picture of the destruction of the USSR is much more complicated than it seems. After all, a member of the Politburo A.N. said in an interview Yakovlev (participant in the Maltese summit!) That Perestroika did not break only communism, but a thousand-year-old model of Russian history. In short, Yakovlev, like Brzezinski, admitted that he and others like him did NOT FIGHT AGAINST COMMUNISM AND THE USSR, AND AGAINST RUSSIA AND THE RUSSIAN SPIRIT.
      It is a pity that the author did not touch on the question of the influence of the Kosygin-Liberman reform on the economic and political problems of the USSR.
      I took the numbers from a book that I’m not hearing right now: [A. Kurlyandchik - “Cursed Soviet Power” ... on Proza.ru]
  2. sssla
    sssla 2 September 2015 14: 16 New
    +4
    A lot of smart and intelligent people in the country. But who is the brake pad ???
    1. I do not care
      I do not care 2 September 2015 14: 21 New
      +4
      you will not believe, we ourselves ..
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 2 September 2015 14: 55 New
        +1
        I ask you to justify the minus, poke the button-the mind is completely unnecessary, about the block, who has been recently -
        meeting
        demonstration
        just went to the head and straight to his face-salary no work dofuya?
        but on each resource-kriziiiiis.
        there is no money to buy buckwheat for 45r and there is Pajero to serve.
        I’m -25 years without housing, we will start building next year, heh shit no matter what
        I understand perfectly the difference of 7 dollars per family in 1996 and 1000 at this time
        1. artifox
          artifox 2 September 2015 15: 49 New
          +3
          Quote: me by
          I understand perfectly the difference of 7 dollars per family in 1996 and 1000 at this time

          do not distort - the average salary was 150-200 dollars in 1996. I know this for sure, because in that same year I had a salary of 70 bucks while working as a mechanic by no means of the highest qualification.
          But this does not negate the fact that they began to live better - just look out the window - there is nowhere to park ...

          :)
          1. I do not care
            I do not care 2 September 2015 19: 26 New
            0
            you had work, I would envy you, but a lot of time has passed. I CAN ONLY BE RAD FOR YOU ...
          2. I do not care
            I do not care 2 September 2015 19: 31 New
            0
            and yes, I live in a city where the factory in 15 t rubles is really nothing ..
        2. Tambov Wolf
          Tambov Wolf 2 September 2015 19: 24 New
          +10
          This is where the salary of 1000 bucks is now? In Moscow, only, and even then, not at all. In Russia, and now salaries are from 7000 rubles to 15000 rubles in the majority. You will recalculate in dollars yourself. And the "average" salary on iPhone is 36 thousand rubles with copecks. Of course, if you add the income of Abramovich with incomes of a resident, for example, Saratov, we’ll hardly reach Aifonovskaya. True, Abramovich has fewer than villages, and even in the villages there was an “average” of 36 thousand. And about the Pajero, in your opinion, we all drive it and Lexus too .You probably live behind the Kremlin wall or live on Rublevka.
          1. zennon
            zennon 2 September 2015 20: 48 New
            +1
            Quote: Tambov Wolf
            In Russia and now, salaries are from 7000 rubles to 15000 rubles in the majority.

            Lies! Here, read and do not write if you do not know:
            http://bs-life.ru/rabota/zarplata/srednyaya2015.html
            1. Grey47
              Grey47 2 September 2015 21: 10 New
              +3
              What does this data have to do with real average wages. In our city, the average is somewhere around 20 thousand, but it's good if you get it, many work for much less money. If that city is almost in the middle between Moscow and St. Petersburg. And on average, if you take Abramovich and a thousand homeless people, then they are all millionaires.
              1. zennon
                zennon 3 September 2015 00: 13 New
                -2
                Quote: Grey47
                And on average, if you take Abramovich and a thousand homeless people, then they are all millionaires.

                Abramovich does not receive wages, as he is not an employee. And people who are employed receive an average of the money indicated in the link.
                Quote: Grey47
                many work for much less money.

                And many receive much more! Who studied what. These are the most real wages.
                1. skeptic31
                  skeptic31 3 September 2015 01: 37 New
                  +4
                  What does Abramovich have to do with it? In Gazprom or Rosneft, from head to cleaning woman, absolutely everyone is a hired worker. At the same time, 5% of management accounts for 50% of wages. By the way, the heads of departments, and they get hoo-ho, are not included in these 5%. I mean, not so long ago, information slipped through that several thousand department heads in Gazprom did not have departments. And they have a salary. Etc. But even with their account, the average salary in Moscow is 60000 rubles. - This is from the category of jokes. As in other matters, the average salary is in other regions of Russia. Any real figure must be justified or confirmed by something, and that’s all from the bulldozer. Where did this average figure come from, as it was counted ... no answer, no greetings. This is from the same anecdote that Rosstat expressed not so long ago (and even put it on the mouth of the president). So if you increase the price of electricity by 1% from July 12, then on average it will grow by 6% per year. Where did they study? Who do they hang this noodle on their ears with? You are careful with their statistics.
                  1. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 3 September 2015 05: 35 New
                    +1
                    Quote: skeptic31
                    At the same time, 5% of management accounts for 50% of wages.

                    If cleaners accounted for 50% of the RFP, everyone would have washed the floors.

                    And the sacred question is WHERE is it different? This is capitalism, uncle. Although the capitalists have pronounced schizophrenia - on the one hand they do not want to pay, on the other, they want to sell as much as possible, and these are mutually exclusive things.
                    I can advise capitalists of all stripes to read Henry Ford "My Life. My Achievements" more often.
                    In general, my most important conclusions from the experience of that year, supplemented by
                    observations of subsequent years, can be reduced to the following:
                    1) Instead of work, finances are brought to the forefront, which threatens to slow down
                    work and detracts from the importance of hard work.
                    2) The predominant concern for money, not for work, entails
                    fear of failure; this fear slows down the right approach to business, causes fear
                    before competition, makes us afraid of changes in production methods,
                    Wary of every step that makes a difference in the state of affairs.
                    3) Anyone who thinks primarily about hard work, about the best
                    performance of his work, the path to success is open.
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            3. volgroo
              volgroo 3 September 2015 00: 17 New
              +3
              Alas, in the regions there are pensions in the region of 7, and salaries of 15. Of course there are surcharges, but this is by getting to know your people. (There are salaries and higher, but they are much smaller)
            4. 34 region
              34 region 3 September 2015 02: 27 New
              +1
              Zennon! 20.48. Well, pi, pi, pi ... This is a statistical salary. Like cabbage and meat, and eventually cabbage rolls. If the salary is so good then! Question. Why do we need social protection bodies? Why compensation for rent? After all, we have waist-high money! The real salary of lockers is 10 tyr plus or minus 5 tyr. But this is with an 8-hour working day, 5 days a week. There are salaries greater than this amount (per month). But what is the trick? What is our hourly salary? A monthly salary is a mirage. People do not work for us for 8 hours 5 days. So do not vigil.
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 3 September 2015 05: 42 New
                0
                Quote: 34 region
                Why do we need social protection bodies?

                And why are they in the same USA and Europe?

                Quote: 34 region
                The real salary of lockers is 10 tyr plus or minus 5 tyr.

                This is heavy bullshit. I have already said that in a provincial town my neighbor locksmith toolmaker has 2 cars. Yards in cities are clogged with cars. With a salary of 5 tyrov, there can be no question of repaying a loan for a car.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 3 September 2015 06: 00 New
                  +3
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  This is heavy bullshit. I have already said that in a provincial town my neighbor locksmith toolmaker has 2 cars. Yards in cities are clogged with cars. With a salary of 5 tyrov, there can be no question of repaying a loan for a car.

                  You have a strange position, over the course of many posts the leitmotif is going on --- the presence of a loan indicates high incomes of the population and overpay (%) since the type of dough is not measured.
                  It seems to me all the time that when there is money, people do not take credit.
                  IMHO.
                  1. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 3 September 2015 06: 33 New
                    0
                    Quote: atalef
                    It seems to me all the time that when there is money, people do not take credit.

                    They take it. If you have an income of 3 tyr per day, but you want everything right away, take a loan, as most do. If the income is 100 rubles per day, this is enough only for food.
                    So see?

                    We must live within our means, not debt. In addition, loans reduce solvent demand by the amount of interest on the loan.
            5. Tambov Wolf
              Tambov Wolf 3 September 2015 11: 53 New
              0
              You don’t need to tell tales and cite black links. Go to the factory and ask for work. If you are accepted as a hard worker, see how much you will receive.
          2. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 3 September 2015 05: 20 New
            0
            Quote: Tambov Wolf
            In Russia and now, salaries are from 7000 rubles to 15000 rubles in the majority.

            And Asians are not the first year At us in the province they work for 1000-1200r per day. Funny right?
          3. Pancho
            Pancho 3 September 2015 15: 32 New
            0
            Unfortunately, it seems to me that there are more Abramovichs than villages. I judge from the Tambov region that is not a stranger to me.
    2. vlade99
      vlade99 2 September 2015 15: 59 New
      +5
      Quote: sssla
      But who is the brake pad ???

      Thieves are liberals so soldered into power structures that they cannot even be planted.
  3. rvRomanoff
    rvRomanoff 2 September 2015 14: 16 New
    +11
    The USSR was killed, first of all, by a systemic crisis. Or, simply, selection, as a result of which more and more degenerates came to power. The CIA has nothing to do with this.
    1. vladimirw
      vladimirw 2 September 2015 14: 59 New
      +13
      First of all, the country was specially destroyed by TOP, who are the CIA degenerates or agents, this is not very important right now. We must end liberal games with the economy and smoothly! move to planned, in the main sectors, taking money from managers and "owners" of the Soviet state industry.
      And keeping a small producer of consumer goods. 7% (as a keepsake) of manufactured goods during the Great Patriotic War were produced by artels, those cooperators.
      In agricultural, we must return to agricultural enterprises, leaving our niche to small farmers and uniting them with agricultural cooperation.
    2. I do not care
      I do not care 2 September 2015 15: 08 New
      -5
      Quote: rvRomanoff
      The USSR was killed, first of all, by a systemic crisis. Or, simply, selection, as a result of which more and more degenerates came to power.

      there were no degenerates in the Central Committee, just no one wanted to take on the cargo left in August 53
      By the way, the most important decisions in foreign-domestic policy were made only with the approval of the Central Committee
      that is, 12 people, and right now they can just be a secretary to sign - democratization of blya
    3. Docent1984
      Docent1984 2 September 2015 15: 39 New
      +1
      Well, so no?
      1. Ural resident
        Ural resident 2 September 2015 17: 48 New
        +1
        Somehow, I believe that someone on top specially collapsed.
        Most likely there was a blatant incompetence and irresponsibility. The opinion has already been forgotten - I can take anything - everything state - mine. That is, there were no ordinary laws on the protection of property rights. And the governing elites? I still remember the elections to the local and supreme councils: they will hang two photos of deputies from the same nomenclature at the entrance - come to the elections - Hurray! The priority is party loyalty, but where are the experts? The same marketers, economists - where to get them if the economy is planned? Some predictions could be made, so the new congress chose Gorbachev, but with good intentions, as they say ... he just opened the Pandora’s box, and the Norod, “free from the shackles,” completed what he had begun - he remembered how there was mass insanity in the early 90s - people dragged everything that was possible, and law enforcement officers who were supposed to stop it - even more - just some kind of apocalypse.
        1. Bashibuzuk
          Bashibuzuk 2 September 2015 20: 15 New
          +5
          A resident of the Urals, what kind of balcony did you write?
          Do you seriously believe that those that hung in your porch were stepping somewhere?
          They had one task - the Odobryams.
          And others drove.
          And you see the sons-grandchildren of these others quite now and today in the State Duma. In the Senate.
          ....
          So you and I - want a crap?
          No.
          And they want.
          Because the crap went to their grandfathers, brothers, uncles. Great-grandfathers.
          Wait, they just cut the coupons.
          And the whole layout.
          And they learned how to skillfully transfer hemorrhoids to others.
          ....
          It will become better to cut it somewhere else ... they will dump it without thinking.
          For there too ... uncle-svatya-kumovya-great-grandfathers-great-prab
        2. 34 region
          34 region 3 September 2015 02: 38 New
          0
          Resident of the Urals! 17.48. My did not understand. Are you talking about the USA? There seem to be two photos of presidential candidates. And loyalty comes first. Who are the marketers? Agricultural Bill ES-510 prohibits the cultivation of plants and animals for the purpose of exchange or sales. For farming, you must have an appropriate education. To work as a private doctor, you must work 5 years in a public institution without complaints and have good recommendations. To work as a taxi driver, you cannot be the 101st if there are quotas for only 100 taxi drivers.
  4. sssla
    sssla 2 September 2015 14: 21 New
    +6
    The CIA has nothing to do with this.
    If you said that “it’s simply irrelevant”, then this is one BUT “not the slightest”, forgive the gross ignorance of the situation in the world at that time !!!
    1. rvRomanoff
      rvRomanoff 2 September 2015 14: 28 New
      +1
      This system of selection for power was formed in the 20s and 30s. And when was the CIA created?
  5. Anti-ukra
    Anti-ukra 2 September 2015 14: 26 New
    +6
    That is yes. We had good teachers - overseas. I hope their lessons did not go "in vain". We learned something, memorized ........ now we have exams ... USE
  6. vladimirw
    vladimirw 2 September 2015 14: 48 New
    +6
    And after Churchill's Fulton speech in 1946, which marked the beginning of the Cold War, the USSR's foreign trade turnover with the West fell by 35%, which dealt a blow to the economy. Naturally, there was no talk of any primacy
    The author rudely distorts, the crisis of the Soviet system began after a coup in June 1953.
    1. Dry_T-50
      Dry_T-50 2 September 2015 15: 16 New
      -4
      Quote: vladimirw
      The author rudely distorts, the crisis of the Soviet system began after the coup in June 1953

      Earlier, much earlier, the first disagreements (and, accordingly, instability) began after the death of Lenin in the 1924 year.
  7. aleks700
    aleks700 2 September 2015 14: 49 New
    +1
    But it would be nice for us to make smartphones, too, our own.
    In the meantime, Russian smartphones are produced in China. And what are they Russian after that?
    1. Dry_T-50
      Dry_T-50 2 September 2015 15: 17 New
      0
      Quote: aleks700
      But it would be nice for us to make smartphones, too, our own.
      In the meantime, Russian smartphones are produced in China. And what are they Russian after that?

      At least for now
    2. artifox
      artifox 2 September 2015 15: 45 New
      -6
      There is not enough production base yet. But it is developing - with time we will do it. Required. Everything goes to this.
      1. aleks700
        aleks700 2 September 2015 16: 07 New
        +1
        There is not enough production base yet. But it is developing - with time we will do it. Required. Everything goes to this.
        Where does it develop?
        1. artifox
          artifox 2 September 2015 16: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: aleks700
          Where does it develop?

          Well, for example:

          20 August
          In the city of Kurgan, a new rocket production was launched by JSC Special Design Technological Bureau Kurganpribor.

          25 August
          A new production of piezoceramics has been opened in Taganrog, Rostov Region, at the enterprise of the Taganrog Priboy JSC.

          In addition, in August:
          New workshop for the production of reinforced concrete products LLC StroyMarket-South (Volgograd)
          New groats factory KH "Belitskoe" (Omsk region)
          New administrative and production building of LLC NPO Kaskad-Group (Cheboksary)
          Plant for the production of wood-polymer composite holding GS Group (Ulyanovsk)
          New Sewing and Knitting Factory (Chechnya)
          New workshop for the production of sodium hypochlorite AO Rostovodokanal (Rostov-on-Don)
          New production halls of Pit-Product LLC, a Finnish meat production holding company Atria Plc (Leningrad Region)
          New production of metal composite high-pressure cylinders for gas engine equipment and gas refueling GazServiceComposite Management Company JSC (Nizhny Novgorod)
          Assembly shop for the production of machine tools LLC Stankomashstroy (Penza)
          New paper bag production line of Segezha Packaging LLC (Karelia)
          Mini-factory for milk processing LLC “Milk of Ingushetia” (Ingushetia)

          Etc. - go to the "doneunas" website - you will learn a lot about the number of expansion of the production base.
          1. Tambov Wolf
            Tambov Wolf 2 September 2015 19: 40 New
            +6
            Previously, factories from 3000 to 30 thousand people worked, but now there is a “mini-milk factory” - 000 people, and the rest are not more than 20-100 people. All this is rather weak in our time. Yes, and gnomes will never let out so much, how many giant plants. Look, China has long left firms in the gateways, and we are soared that small business will pull everything out. Bullshit is liberal. If Sukhoi was medium or small, it would produce pots, not planes. Production should be large The part produces military equipment, and due to the advanced knowledge accumulated in this part, others do the citizen, household and all the rest. This is how most modern enterprises work and the more items, the easier it is to stay afloat, due to sales planning.
            1. Oprychnik
              Oprychnik 2 September 2015 23: 28 New
              0
              Not so long ago I read an article on Chicken Auschwitz on Kramol regarding chicken farms in the USA. Only 30000 (!) People work on a chicken farm of 2 heads. However, such "optimization", such as in our medicine, does not lead to an improvement in product quality. I cried. After all, we eat all this and we ... (((
            2. 34 region
              34 region 3 September 2015 02: 52 New
              +1
              Tambov Wolf! 19.40. Join the Tambov Wolves! China has already eaten up small businesses. There was a cry, in every yard there was a steel-smelting furnace! Result? The products turned out to be complete shit. If private small business is so effective then? Why do regular collectivisations take place? Why do multinational companies rule? Are there many small sucking (outsourcing) companies in large companies? In Stalin's time there was a private business. But collective (collective farms, artels). Received government orders and government purchases. Why is such a system bad today? In general, in my opinion, it is best to have a private business only in the sphere of services. All production is only public. And the cook can also cut and cook. And better under the roof of the state. Why doesn’t the roof of the bandits outrage anyone, and the state tire infuriates?
            3. artifox
              artifox 3 September 2015 07: 39 New
              +1
              Here is a surprisingly predictable answer. All other workshops and production were ignored, but the "mini-milk factory" immediately became the "argument" that everything is bad.

              In your opinion it would be good if nothing was built and not opened at all? In my opinion, it is important that it opens and does not close, as it was in the 90s. And yet, not only mini-factories ...

              No one says that small business will pull everything out, but if it doesn’t exist, then there will be no large one.
          2. aleks700
            aleks700 3 September 2015 08: 11 New
            +1
            Is it on a Russian scale? Per year? Well, okay. It’s just that our land, under the strict guidance of an effective manager, has fallen from life, with it another half a hundred regions.
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 3 September 2015 08: 39 New
              0
              Quote: aleks700
              It’s just that our land, under the strict guidance of an effective manager, has fallen from life, with it another half a hundred regions.

              Who are you talking about?
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    3. ferdiperdozzz
      ferdiperdozzz 2 September 2015 22: 27 New
      0
      Quote: aleks700
      In the meantime, Russian smartphones are produced in China. And what are they Russian after that?

      My friends Ukrainians also measure everything with smartphones. In my opinion, this is not quite the indicator. Not the most important thing. Of course there is something in this, but not the most important one.
  8. loaln
    loaln 2 September 2015 14: 56 New
    +3
    Opinion is entitled to consideration. Much is logical. One is wrong. Russia is not the USSR and will never even come close to the state of the state when it will be possible to search for matching signs.
    The USSR for Russia today is a fig leaf, which is convenient for covering up your shame when it creeps out into the light of day here and there.
    Therefore, it is not for long. Either there will be more critical places or a leaf will fade and become crowded. From shame.
    1. dmb
      dmb 2 September 2015 15: 26 New
      +9
      Sin disagree with you. One thing is bad, the author reduces everything exclusively to economics, arguing that ideology should not influence it. I repeat (there are figures in the article) not a single economy of the world was restored after the war without outside help. We were able, and largely thanks to the socialist idea. This is despite the fact that they suffered the most. And in the collapse of the USSR ideology, or rather its dogmatism from Stalin's times, I would put in the first place. If our ancestors in conditions of devastation and famine could build socialism and lead our society to the leaders, and we prokakali it, then where is the economy. So what, and there were no starving people in the USSR. And they would have tightened their belts, if it was cleverly explained why this is necessary, but the mineral secretary and others like him did not build dachas in Foros, but they were the first to set an example. By the way, the author contradicts himself in the final. It is logical to say that the economy is a commodity piece, he naively believes that the current cap. The economy should take lessons from the social. economy. Yes, they are different in nature and the goals of their development are opposite.
      1. artifox
        artifox 2 September 2015 15: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: dmb
        One thing is bad, the author reduces everything exclusively to economics, arguing that ideology should not influence it.

        Well, ideology is prohibited by the constitution in our country ... Here is the author who rejects it :)
        1. 34 region
          34 region 3 September 2015 03: 00 New
          0
          Artifox! 15.43. Ideology seems to be prohibited. But! Life without ideology is impossible. Man to man is brother and comrade. Man to man is the enemy. Money is our god. Drown your neighbor or he will drown you. Sucker is fate. The lower class is akin to animals. Etc. Do not tell me the ideology of today?
          1. artifox
            artifox 3 September 2015 07: 48 New
            0
            Ideology should be primarily within man. In my case, ideology is patriotism, love of the motherland and the desire for its greatness. Well, I may not quite correctly put it:

            The Constitution of the Russian Federation
            Article 13. Clause 2 - No ideology may be established as state or mandatory.


            Those. it is forbidden to establish it by law, however, the general tendency to nurture patriotism and love for the motherland is now manifesting itself.

            PS And what you listed about money, etc. - this is not an ideology - this is the psychology that was brought to us from outside ... But a person always wants to live well and preferably through easy paths - therefore he is quite susceptible to all liberal nonsense ...
          2. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 3 September 2015 07: 54 New
            +2
            Quote: 34 region
            Do not tell me the ideology of today?

            I have them.



            Moral - DO NOT destroy your country !!! DO NOT lose the war neither cold nor hot!
      2. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 3 September 2015 08: 01 New
        0
        Quote: dmb
        the author reduces everything exclusively to economics, arguing that ideology should not influence it

        The economy is secondary to the value system of society. If a person lives for the service of his country and God, consumerism is not considered for him. It is consumed, it is from satanic liberalism, which feeds selfishness.
      3. MrK
        MrK 3 September 2015 15: 13 New
        0
        Quote: dmb
        And in the collapse of the USSR, ideology, or rather its dogmatism from Stalin's time, I would put in the first place.


        Stalin was not a dogma. Stalin understood that until a new theory of communism was developed, one could not refuse Marxism! Fishlessness and cancer. That's why Stalin repeated: “Without a new theory, we will die"- which was later confirmed. Cancer still did not become a fish.

        And the dogma of ideology began with Khrushchev.
        And continued under Brezhnev.
  9. Weyland
    Weyland 2 September 2015 15: 28 New
    +6
    for political reasons, the USSR distributed between $ 130 and $ 160 billion in loans to developing countries. This is approximately 21,97% of the Soviet Union's GDP in 1975. When the country needed money, almost nothing of the borrowed was returned.

    For this alone, Khrushchev’s place in hell - and all together ... am

    Already in 1985, the RSFSR gave back its less productive neighbors in the Union 15,5% of revenue, and by 1990 this share had reached 32,5%. In addition to her, only Belarus (on average 25%) and in some years Kazakhstan (12,7%) was a stable donor. All other regions stably lived beyond their means. Ukraine consumed 6,6% more than it produced. Uzbekistan in 1989 spent three times as much as it earned. In 1990, Georgia consumed $ 41,9 thousand per person per year with its own production of $ 10,6 thousand. A consistently high social bias was observed in the Baltic states. Consumption in Estonia exceeded domestic production by 1,68 times, in Latvia - by 1,63 times, in Lithuania - by 1,67 times. And they sacredly believed that they completely earned everything to the penny “their own” themselves. Having, say, in 1990, the volume of consumption per person was only $ 11,8 thousand per year (with production of $ 17,5 thousand), the RSFSR looked like a poor beggar in the eyes of well-fed Latvians (consumption - $ 26,9 thousand, own production - $ 16,5 thousands).

    And for this, Brezhnev and his successors have a place in the same place! am
    1. 34 region
      34 region 3 September 2015 03: 06 New
      0
      Weiland! 15.28. Your suggestions? Rob the neighbors? Well, Iraq and Libya were bombed. The refugees climbed. So that refugees would not come to us, the Union supported its neighbors. The Union gave loans for the purchase of our products (read our enterprises). What is your vision of the relationship?
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 3 September 2015 07: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: 34 region
        Your suggestions? Rob the neighbors?

        I also have them.

  10. Sasha75
    Sasha75 2 September 2015 15: 35 New
    +9
    A country of such proportions as the USSR and Russia, which has all the resources self-sufficient in itself, can depend on someone only with an artificially created deficit or an obviously harmful economic activity. Now what, weighing the problem, we stopped buying securities and debt obligations of Europe and the United States here in response to sanctions and black PR we stopped selling our goods for promises in the form of paper. After all, we are not selling technology for this paper, but only consumer goods and food products.
  11. artifox
    artifox 2 September 2015 15: 39 New
    +1
    The author began for health - it is clear that he understands the issue, but finished for rest - the conclusions are at least controversial - but the opinion is therefore the opinion that it may not coincide with the opinion of others.

    Therefore, neither plus nor minus, although closer to plus.

    In any case, the correct idea is that we need to develop our own production and prevent distortions. But it is necessary to develop correctly - with a focus on export. It has long been known that a country that does not have an export is a dying country. Another question is that export should be production products and not raw materials. But thank God - we are moving in this direction so that gentlemen and liberals do not speak there. More and more new production opens, etc. And we will also learn how to make iPhones at home - we just need to tighten up the production base that collapsed in the 90s. We are already assembling processors (Everest) - and let's go further.

    Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I still see the difference, not even in the comparison of the 90s and 10s, but literally in the 00s and 10s. Own production is growing. And it is clear, at least to me, that this can’t be done quickly. That is why my optimism does not fall.
  12. pts-m
    pts-m 2 September 2015 16: 00 New
    +4
    everyone knows everything, and working capital as they were abroad, they remained there supporting the Western economies, but not the Russian economy. Everyone knows who benefits from this and nod their heads.
  13. yuriy55
    yuriy55 2 September 2015 17: 03 New
    +5
    Yes, let Russian manufacturers break into a cake with such a structure of the Central Bank. Some of you are personally satisfied with the ongoing them monetary policy and "supposedly" concern for state prosperity?
    Socialism did not suit you? Looking for the causes of the destruction of the USSR? Under the socialist system, China's GDP grew 20 times. Can you tell me how many times the GDP of Russia has grown (???)?
    It was less necessary to get involved in the export of socialism, squandering the national wealth and supporting imaginary communist parties. It was necessary to tell the bitter truth to those who, in old age, when all thoughts were concentrated in one direction on the path to the eternal, tried to pick out a literate idea from the ossified brain ...
    I will not speak about the development of the RSFSR. It was here that all the giants of the "A" group were concentrated. We stayed with them. Without a developed structure of the food industry and agriculture, with concrete pillboxes throughout the Russian-Chinese border and the Baikal-Amur Mainline leading to nowhere.
    Now that the oligarchic leadership has become a panacea, can you tell me on whose strong shoulders all the hardships and hardships fell? Who will answer with their wallet for sanctions? Do you sometimes look at statistics that claim that in Russia living under the poverty line and millionaires are becoming more in equal proportions?
    Our state needs to learn how to live with the people and share with it all the difficulties of a difficult time, and not to care primarily about their salaries and their indexation. yes
  14. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 2 September 2015 17: 22 New
    +2
    Quote: “The true goal of the operation was the working capital of the entire economy of the country as a whole. Having lost them, it simply suffocated and collapsed under its own weight. However, nothing has changed much since then. The purpose of the current economic war is still finance, namely "Working capital in the economy. Therefore, we need to prevent its outflow, but at the same time maintain the provision of enterprises to them. At the moment, this is the most poorly learned lesson in Russia."
    And now they are waging the most brutal financial war against the Russian Federation using the supposedly free capital market in a "democratic world"! What is the name of the current sanctions war being waged against Russia without a decision of the UN Security Council? Where is this most vaunted democracy, with the help of which wars are waged and unleashed against undesirable SGA countries?
    Quote: “Well, fifthly, it is necessary to stimulate the economic development of regions and thereby reduce the gap in living standards in different parts of the country. Subsidized regions are a resource requiring development, which can and should provide for itself. Here's a second bad thing for you learned lesson from all of these. "
    To stabilize finances, the state needs to tightly control the currency circulation, as E. Primakov did at that time, then this money will work for the domestic market, and not for the purchase of islands and other things unnecessary for the country, because these finances were made on the country's resources , and all the profits go to the West and work for it. It turns out parasitism of raw oligarchs in the possession of the whole people, according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation. And the budget from this has only a rent for the use of natural resources by them, and even that they have established through their people in the government! Therefore, from this lesson we conclude - state bodies should stand guard over the interests of the country / people, and not fulfill the will of the oligarchs. And this is impossible without the adoption of amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation! hi
  15. anip
    anip 2 September 2015 18: 19 New
    +1
    Sudan is five times larger than Ukraine in the territory ...

    Well, what kind of nonsense are you talking about?
    * The territory of Ukraine - 603 549 km²
    * Territory of Sudan - 1 886 068 km²
    Where five times? When the scribblers will at least watch and check something, and not take it from the ceiling?
    1. Seriomilander
      Seriomilander 2 September 2015 18: 40 New
      0
      The territory of Ukraine - 603 549 km², including the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol, without them - 576 604 km²
      Although 5 times it still doesn’t work out ...
  16. akudr48
    akudr48 2 September 2015 19: 12 New
    +7
    "According to the author (our compatriot with you, by the way), the USSR made only four serious mistakes. Firstly, it excessively depended on export earnings for oil. Secondly, too much of this oil was delivered through barter to partners in Eastern Europe and Too little to Western countries for money. Thirdly, a huge share of the proceeds went to the purchase of grain due to the inefficiency of their own agriculture. Fourth, the role of ideology and politics in the USSR turned out to be too high, which did not allow timely and adequate response to all changes. not only in the world, but also within the country itself. "

    There was a more serious system error.

    It consisted of the fact that in the USSR the organ Gorbachev (from the city of Glupov), a spotty traitor, appeared in the place of his head, and the management systems (party + councils + government) opened their mouths for a long time watching the tricks of this villain when he destroyed the economy first, then political system and finally set about the people.

    Further, the well-deserved alcoholic Yeltsin took over the baton, who finished off the USSR and gave a legal start to robbery and looting.

    The people remained, as always, in the fools ...

    If someone believes that this is impossible now, it is better for him to change his mind and carefully watch what is happening. There are much more magicians at the top, and everyone strives to take the last out of his pocket ...
  17. kuz363
    kuz363 2 September 2015 20: 19 New
    +1
    “It’s good that we have the world's largest sapphire glass factory. But it would be nice for us to make smartphones as well. Not for our own sake, but to prevent lagging in advanced technologies and for reasons of state security.” Wrong. Any sophisticated technology must be justified by payback. That is, the quantity and quality of products. The Russian market is not so large as to consume all these products and export is needed to reduce production costs. Well, who will buy Russian planes, cars, smartphones abroad in the face of fierce competition and market saturation? Even chips in Russia are not profitable to produce for the same reason. And if they do, their price will be much higher than the purchase of Western
    1. kunstkammer
      kunstkammer 3 September 2015 03: 55 New
      +2
      if the CHIPS from Russia will be better than others - how else will they buy and no sanctions will stop them.
      Just those people who are entrusted, for example, in Skolkovo to establish the production of such chips successfully steal allocated budget money. And they do not need chips in principle.
  18. Prutkov
    Prutkov 2 September 2015 21: 51 New
    +3
    The main problem of the Soviet Union is that after 1953 the elite (you can call them party nomenclature, aristocrats, oligarchs) ceased to bear real responsibility for their affairs. Under Joseph Vissarionovich, each head of the head was responsible, in the literal sense of this expression, for his front of work. With the passage of Khrushchev, and then Brezhnev, the system of personal responsibility of leaders collapsed. Just think - I couldn’t do it! Go to another position in another area ... All this led to the fact that at the helm under Gorbachev were the heirs of irresponsible leaders of the Brezhnev-Khrushov era. Hence the desire to have everything without any tension. Remember the slogan of the 80s: “So that we have everything, but we don’t have anything for it.” The problem of transferring power at the highest level remains unsolved. The Chinese seem to have solved both of these problems. The Americans decided. Russia is not.
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  20. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 3 September 2015 03: 30 New
    +1
    Central Bank, which, by the way, makes decisions regardless of state authority.

    If the author still wrote that the chairman of the central bank,by the way, is appointed not by this very “state power” from which it is supposedly “independent” - to my surprise,by the way, there would be no limit. By the way, advice to the author - do not lie so brazenly.
  21. artifox
    artifox 3 September 2015 09: 06 New
    0
    Quote: aleks700
    Is it on a Russian scale? In a year?

    No, just for August alone. Over the year, much more has been discovered.
  22. abrek
    abrek 3 September 2015 09: 55 New
    +1
    The author of the article is generally poorly versed in the economy of the USSR. Trying to make a comparison between iron and green. The economy of the USSR was destroyed, in preparation for the collapse of the USSR as a state. Here, of course, we can talk about the stages of "development". With all the distortions between the production of means of production and commodities, we must talk about the availability of products per capita. For example, take statistics and you will see that the USSR was the leader in the world in the production of agricultural products per capita and was always in the top three in this indicator. Now ask yourself - why did store shelves become empty after the 85th?
  23. asv96
    asv96 3 September 2015 13: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: zennon
    Quote: Grey47
    And on average, if you take Abramovich and a thousand homeless people, then they are all millionaires.

    Abramovich does not receive wages, as he is not an employee. And people who are employed receive an average of the money indicated in the link.
    Quote: Grey47
    many work for much less money.

    And many receive much more! Who studied what. These are the most real wages.

    Yes, I’m a technical engineer working in a higher technical profession with a salary of 29 thousand ESA, a joiner with a secondary education, for 55 thousand rubles. That is, I did not study there
  24. Appraiser
    Appraiser 3 September 2015 15: 37 New
    +1
    It's not about the money and the economic strategy of the USSR. The case is state criminals who sold the country for "European values ​​and their democracy" such as Gorbachev, Kravchuk, Shevarnadze and the like. negative
  25. Russian_German
    Russian_German 3 September 2015 21: 20 New
    0
    Quote: kuz363
    Well, who will buy Russian planes, cars, smartphones abroad in the face of fierce competition and market saturation?

    A simple example of why Emelianenko was to fight without rules if such invincible titans were already there. Or why did South Korea start producing electronics, although there was already an advanced and advertised Japanese on the market. So argue, then nichrome and do not need to go to bed in a coffin and die. It is competition and competition in order to survive and win.