The Ministry of Defense creates an analogue of officer courses "Shot"

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In the Army, they will soon earn refresher courses for officers, similar to the “Shot” courses, abolished in 2009 g, reports Interfax-AVN a message from the coordinator of the Directorate General of Inspectors of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Army General Yuri Yakubov



“Under the leadership of the Main Army Command, mobile (mobile) courses are being created to retrain officers in the battalion unit, which will function on a temporary basis in training centers of military districts,” said Yakubov.

According to him, “the main goal of creating such mobile courses is to improve the professional skills of commanders who are trained for appointment to higher positions.”

"Such exit courses, it seems to me, will be similar to the Higher Officer Courses" The Shot, "which were unreasonably eliminated in the 2009 year," the general noted.

He explained that the officers of the battalion unit are “combat men, their deputies, chiefs of staff, intelligence chiefs and other specialized staff categories”.

According to the general, “in the future, it is advisable to create stationary courses for the retraining of officers on the basis of the training center of the General Military Academy of the Armed Forces or on the basis of the new interspecific Combat Training Center, which is being created in the Western Military District on the Mulinsky training ground (Nizhny Novgorod region)”.

“But these are plans for the future. Today, it can be stated that the creation of mobile courses in the Main Command of the Ground Forces is the first step for the implementation of the program of additional professional education, advanced training and retraining of officers, ”he concluded.
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  1. +12
    1 September 2015 15: 48
    now for Serdyukov to clean and rake, still wow, good luck Kozhugetovich
    1. +4
      1 September 2015 15: 49
      do not call our minister! Kozhegetovich he!
      1. +19
        1 September 2015 16: 12
        Both - NEUD! He is Kuzhugetovich.
        1. +4
          1 September 2015 18: 26
          If we dig to the very roots, then he is Sergei Shoiguevich Kuzhugetov. Our passport desks work wonders.
      2. +2
        1 September 2015 16: 15
        Kuzhugetovich
      3. +2
        1 September 2015 16: 23
        Kuzhugetovich
        1. +1
          1 September 2015 16: 34
          exactly, exactly - to blame))
    2. +10
      1 September 2015 16: 37
      And that Serdyuk was the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, not the Minister of Defense, as always "the tsar is good, the boyars are bad", like children are straight. In our vertical of power nothing is done without the knowledge of the "guarantor".
      1. +5
        1 September 2015 16: 48
        Quote: Alget87
        And that Serdyuk was the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, not the Minister of Defense, as always "the tsar is good, the boyars are bad", like children are straight. In our vertical of power nothing is done without the knowledge of the "guarantor".

        Bravo! I agree with you 100%.
      2. +3
        1 September 2015 17: 24
        And that Serdyuk was the Supreme Commander, not the Minister of Defense, as always, "the king is good, the boyars are bad," as children are straight. In our vertical of power nothing is done without the knowledge of the "guarantor".
        -Alget87(1)

        And what has passed the time to throw stones, the time has come to collect them?
        What changed? Why did one and the same person - the "Supreme Commander-in-Chief", change his attitude towards the Army, stop destroying it and start restoring it, and that before with such zeal he "reformed"?
        Ask yourself these questions, so actively arguing about "Kozhugetovich", "Kozhegetovich", or "Kuzhugetovich".
        This will be much more useful for discussing and enlightening the brains of everyone, including all sorts of "hurray-patriots" who do not delve into the essence of the problems of political life in Russia.
    3. +4
      1 September 2015 20: 26
      S. Shoigu & Co "cleans up and rakes" no worse than the previous company. For example, the construction of the first stage of the Patriot park cost the budget of the Ministry of Defense 20 billion rubles, this is only the first stage. How much did the international army games cost to the budget of the Ministry of Defense It is not known, the information can be said to be classified. Only for the preparation of the international military-technical forum "Army-2015", the Ministry of Defense spent 1.6 billion rubles. Probably the Ministry of Defense had free funds or all the weapons and equipment of a new type in the Armed Forces?! for all sorts of hurray-patriots, all these biathlons, parks, derbies, etc., are like a balm on the heart - “We are all the strongest! Rather, on the contrary, all this PR and window dressing is only to the detriment of the combat training of troops - the standards and methods of combat training, which were developed on the basis of real combat experience and From which the troops have been learning to fight for more than a decade, now they are being replaced by preparations for all kinds of military sports shows. The troops now even have such a layer of military personnel, military athletes, whose task is one - preparing for the next biathlon, derby, etc., these servicemen, as a rule, are completely exempt from participation in the daily activities of a military unit / unit /, someone goes on guard for them, outfits, works in the park, even these soldier-athletes do not go to combat training classes, they are not preparing for war , but to participate in the next military show. Commanders of all levels, unfortunately, only encourage the creation of all kinds of teams of warriors-athletes in formations and units. To some extent, you can understand them - the higher authorities press: "It is necessary", but on the other sides, this is now a way to be noticed and noted at the highest level. Only the question is, in which case these teams of showman warriors will fight the same? The head of the Main Directorate of the Russian Armed Forces, Lieutenant General I. Buvaltsev, said thatfinancing of all this show: "... comes at the expense of the limits of combat training of the Armed Forces," just without commentary. So it would not be necessary to rake it up in the Ministry of Defense in 3-4 years after Kuzhugetovich.
      1. 0
        1 September 2015 21: 07
        Igor, a very clever comment.
    4. +1
      1 September 2015 21: 08
      And once again the question arises, how much will the next "cleanup" cost for the "Roofing and Girls" company.
  2. +5
    1 September 2015 15: 48
    This is correct. Although I wonder how they will move from place to place if these courses have the same tons of weapons that Shot had.
    1. +1
      1 September 2015 15: 56
      Duc, and there are different places! smile
      1. +1
        1 September 2015 16: 03
        "Outbound" in the Donbass? wink
        1. -1
          1 September 2015 19: 27
          Are there specialists? What is the need for such "advanced training" if there are schools and there are academies? In my opinion, there is no gap in the training programs (before the battalion level and after). And if you have not finished your studies at the school, then teach as you want! soldier
          1. +3
            1 September 2015 20: 49
            Because the curriculum of a military school (academy) may not take into account the appearance of various new products and other things, both in its own and in other armies, I’m not talking about 6-8 years of service before the battalion commander (the same mini-UAVs, new art stations Intelligence, new communication systems and combat control - in addition to training operators, it is necessary to teach commanders how to use it properly)
            1. +2
              1 September 2015 22: 45
              Quote: strannik1985
              What is the need for such "advanced training" if there are schools and there are academies?

              I’m certainly not special, but I want to voice my thoughts about these on-site courses.
              Well, firstly, when they are sent to advanced training at an institute or somewhere else, the commander (of any link) is separated from the main service for at least 2-3 weeks (as a result, subordinates are left without a manager, but from here all the consequences), plus a lot of dough on business trips, travel, etc. The only useful plus in the secondment of the command link for advanced training is the ability to exchange experience between units (more theory).
              And now the advantages of such an on-site retraining team: the knowledge gained by the commanders can be immediately put into practice in the native unit (at the same time, the teachers themselves raise their level and check the theoretical calculations of scientific work in living units) and corrections can be made by both teachers and students, as well there is the possibility of working out inter-link interaction under the supervision of theorists. If you think hard, you can still find positive points in such an organization for continuing education.
              Something like that!
              1. 0
                2 September 2015 10: 25
                If the courses are on-site, then it is still up to the county level. That is, it will still be necessary to get together for 2-3 weeks. And the fact that the deputy will remain in the division of the acting, then this is nothing scary - normal business.
            2. 0
              2 September 2015 10: 28
              I asked specialists laughing And for what you are talking about, there is daily study and combat training, under the supervision of appropriate management. This is their bread. And how much time is it in the daily routine and the regulation of official time, I generally keep silent ... Maybe someone ended the KUOS?
          2. avt
            +1
            1 September 2015 22: 12
            Quote: marlin1203
            Are there specialists? What is the need for such "advanced training" if there are schools and there are academies?

            What, for example, was taught at KUOS in no academies, and the selection there is different, “Shot” in Soviet times also taught something that not every graduate of the academy needs to know.
            1. 0
              2 September 2015 10: 34
              Why does not every graduate of the academy need to know? In what sense, is it above his level, below, or nothing at all? Competently organized study and combat training in the unit and formation should be enough. For this, the appropriate controls exist. And there is no need to spend extra budgetary funds. And this is already a lot. So the question remains, "what is such a need?" (By the way, by the way, the article also does not really reveal it)
              1. 0
                2 September 2015 12: 05
                KUOS is a bit from another opera, since KGB operatives were trained there for operations as part of operational-combat groups on enemy territory.
                And if this was not in the unit / compound? For example, mini-UAVs of various samples, and the battalion commander must understand the nuances of reconnaissance using this tool, what can be organized in each part (for the average command staff) or a month to wean a certain number of commanders in courses?
                These courses have existed since 1926 (and before that there was the Oranienbaum Officer Rifle School), do you really think that is so?
  3. +14
    1 September 2015 15: 52
    Well, why so modestly - "unreasonably liquidated" ?! It would be called directly - by a criminal order, Stouretkin were closed, and now they are being restored in a slightly different structural form. Where are the defenders of the sofa? who recently were only ready to make him twice the hero of everything in the world. The most offensive thing is that how much time and money is spent on correcting and restoring the "smart" decisions of any shit from the authorities, which acre as a son-in-law did not have any other merit to the father-in-law.
  4. +11
    1 September 2015 15: 54
    "Such exit courses, it seems to me, will be similar to the Higher Officer Courses" The Shot, "which were unreasonably eliminated in the 2009 year," the general noted.
    That would be good, only the Shot Courses were already a proven system, with their own matbase, excellent teaching staff, well-proven programs, and it was already a "brand". And whether these numerous small "courses" can now replace one "Shot", we'll see. Nevertheless, I wish this innovation the best in luck and success.
    1. -1
      1 September 2015 16: 39
      That would be good, only the Shot Courses were already a proven system, with their own matbase, excellent teaching staff, well-proven programs, and it was already a "brand".
      What's the problem? On the contrary, if you carefully read the dream, we are talking about the MOBILITY of new courses. What is such a materiel in Solnechnogorsk? The materiel in each motorized rifle battalion should be the same. And it turned out that in order to get to Solnechnogorsk, a serviceman had to be lucky who immediately coincided with all the circumstances - the commander let go, the order came, etc. And in the planned case, it is assumed that, for example, a group of officer teachers arrives in the army or district and begins to train all officers at the level of battalion commanders for a certain period of time, reconnaissance units according to their advanced programs. They will give a greater result in two years than the former Shot in 10 years.
      1. +2
        1 September 2015 17: 13
        That’s why I don’t wish the enemy to be a teacher on mobile courses!
        1. +2
          1 September 2015 17: 33
          That’s why I don’t wish the enemy to be a teacher on mobile courses!
          Is this with the current just 4 districts? Of course, it’s much more comfortable for the officer-teacher to sit constantly in the suburbs near Moscow, in the worst part of it, I agree) but then what idea will he have about the situation in the troops? at the level of knowledge - when did I serve myself?) Yes, on a civilian people more often travel on business trips to all regions than some officers who, apart from one duty station, have not seen anything else for 20 years.
          1. 0
            1 September 2015 17: 58
            Quote: lukke
            Yes, people are more likely to ride a civilian on business trips to all regions than some officers who have not seen anything more than one duty station for 20 years.

            On the other hand, not every civilian has changed his permanent residence so many times in his life, moving from the Baltic to the Pacific Ocean, then to the Urals, and so on, then on for the incomplete 20 years. And this is with the family, tearing his wife from work, and children from school
        2. avt
          0
          1 September 2015 22: 16
          Quote: cuzmin.mihail2013
          That’s why I don’t wish the enemy to be a teacher on mobile courses!

          Or maybe you think first? Well, at worst, see how and where SAS is taught? Well, if not only for feature films somewhere in the mountains at their base.
          Quote: lukke
          Of course, it’s much more comfortable for the officer-teacher to sit constantly in the suburbs near Moscow, in the worst part of it, I agree) but then what idea will he have about the situation in the troops?

          Well, for the sake of justice and in the suburbs at KUOS taught this way - it didn’t seem enough to the listeners. Of course there was no jungle, but ..... laughing normally so improved.
      2. +2
        1 September 2015 17: 52
        Quote: lukke
        What is such a materiel in Solnechnogorsk? The materiel in each motorized rifle battalion should be the same.

        Yes, yes ... and computer and other thematic classes in each battalion ....
        On "Shot" they always tried to show and tell all the newest that appeared in the Armed Forces, even about the one that should only appear in the troops. Unfortunately, not every battalion of ours is equipped with such equipment.
        There, they led everyone to a common understanding of the new Instructions and Statutes.
        And in the planned case, it is assumed that, for example, a group of officer teachers arrives in the army or district and begins to train all officers at the level of battalion commanders for a certain period of time, reconnaissance units according to their advanced programs.
        The process of training and retraining should go on constantly, and not from case to case, and this issue cannot be solved by "business travelers" alone.
        1. 0
          1 September 2015 21: 55
          Alas, not all of our battalions are equipped with such equipment
          so maybe this is the main headache for today?
  5. +1
    1 September 2015 15: 55
    This is just what needs to be introduced for civilians, the population must be taught especially the male population, I am sure those who wish will
    1. +2
      1 September 2015 16: 07
      First, at least for those who signed a reservist contract.
  6. FID
    +5
    1 September 2015 15: 59
    It’s scary to think about what Serdyukov would have been ordered to do ... Although, our "economic" ministers will probably be worse!
  7. +2
    1 September 2015 16: 08
    A necessary and useful thing.
  8. +2
    1 September 2015 16: 14
    Good luck!
  9. +1
    1 September 2015 16: 17
    Serdyukov and others like him should be tried for state. treason and damage to the state on an especially large scale. So that others were not accustomed to steal and harm the Homeland, and then hide behind a woman’s back.
    By the way, now, in addition to New Russia, there is where to apply combat experience.
    Ours are already fighting in Syria! We will beat the enemy on foreign territory.
    http://news.rambler.ru/world/31207402/
    http://news.rambler.ru/world/31207402/items/?track=news_items
  10. 0
    1 September 2015 16: 26
    It was easier to break a stool than a training system in the armed forces.
    1. +1
      1 September 2015 16: 43
      Taburetkina should not be broken, uprooted, so that only edification remained nameless in memory.
  11. 0
    1 September 2015 17: 03
    It is terrible to think what Serdyukov would have advised ...


    If we had an army of managers behind whose backs Taburetkin was hiding.
  12. +1
    1 September 2015 17: 46
    Good thing! However, this is what happened - well, how much can you tread on the spot - will we destroy - will we build - will we destroy - will we build ..., and often even so - a step forward - two steps back!
    1. 0
      1 September 2015 18: 03
      On the basis of Patriot Park, it is necessary to do retraining courses for city defense reservists, a training park, career counseling, qualification confirmation ... Such parks should be near each regional center.
      1. 0
        1 September 2015 18: 46
        Great idea, the reservists would be calmer, and the wives would know where their husbands are.
  13. +1
    1 September 2015 20: 06
    If you look, then gradually everything returns to normal (they return the regimental, divisional systems, return the Shot, albeit a little not in the same form as it was before, but still, etc.) And this suggests that everything time-tested even under the Soviet Union has not lost its relevance at the moment. Yet it was not amateurs who came up with this, but bright minds. An attempt to scuttle ... everything in the Serdyukov period did not lead to anything good ... and here, as they say, everything is new, this is far forgotten old.
  14. 0
    1 September 2015 21: 47
    For Kilo 11:
    I'm a civilian. Let me state: In the system of the Ministry of Energy before Chernobyl, the norm was closeness, a slightly dismissive attitude towards society. Now: at each nuclear power plant there are dedicated workers - their job is to "illuminate" to citizens what is being done. The state of the army also depends on the respectful support of ordinary citizens, the relationship of children and adolescents. The interest and support of the people will justify the considerable expenses for the show with tanks and planes.
  15. 0
    2 September 2015 05: 25
    these decisions of the Ministry of Defense are very happy, everything is back to square one, and therefore, however, we were waiting for these courses, however ... soldier