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Information War: Knights 2.0

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I met last week with a journalist from a reputable French media. Monsieur journalist was all interested in kremlebote: are there many, and who controls them, and does my blog suffer greatly from hordes of bots?

The sad fact is that pro-Western liberals do not consider us, the Vatnikov, people to be at all. According to their opinion, all supporters of Vladimir Putin are divided into two categories: bots and zombie populations by these bots. I remember how one well-known pro-Western blogger responded a year ago to my appeal to the statesmen. Right in the title of his article, he stated that we - supporters of the Kremlin - are just bots. And that we are not only people, but we will never become them.

This is a very convenient position. It’s hard to argue with living people: living people can have their own opinions, there can be reasonable arguments. In the end, liberal ideology directly requires its followers to be tolerant of other people's opinions. Remember, the famous: "I may not agree with your opinion, but I will give my life for your right to express it."

With bots easier. After all, these are just pieces of software code, some virtual parasites that need not be listened to, but ruthlessly destroyed. It is interesting sometimes to watch the discussions in liberal blogs. At the very first objection, the author invariably follows: "Oh, and here the Kremlin bots pulled up." You do not need to listen to the "bot", you do not need to object to the "bot" either. This is just a pest whose opinion does not matter.

I note that the hard position of the pro-Western liberals - according to which all those who disagree with them are bots - is in many ways a gesture of despair. Within the framework of liberal ideology, it is absolutely impossible to justify some constructions: for example, to explain why the opinion of the inhabitants of the Crimea has no meaning. However, if we declare that Crimeans are bots, not people, everything immediately falls into place. Russia has taken away the peninsula inhabited by robots from Kiev, property must be returned to its rightful owner. Robot referendum? Do not tell, the opinion of robots does not matter.

In recent years, I have been called a bot countless times, but I still feel some confusion when I once again hear these words in my address. Here I am sitting at the computer - a living person of flesh and blood, with his history, your opinion, your feelings. And they tell me that I am not a person, not a subhuman, or even an animal, but just a “bot”: a piece of computer code to be destroyed.

I repeat, the pro-Western media and pro-Western liberals did not come from the concept of “kremlebot” from a good life. The discussion with statesmen on an equal footing - with figures, facts, with arguments - at this stage, the liberals cannot, this is not their strong place. And there is a reason for this: in more than two decades of undivided dominance of Western ideology in Russia, liberals have spawned so many myths that it is almost impossible to defend them in an honest dispute.

Let me remind you that the liberal analogue of the Patriot Directory, which I founded, was never created - for the simple reason that the facts speak in no way in favor of the West and pro-Western forces. But our American friends and partners have created botnet. About one of them wrote another Guardian:

http://www.inopressa.ru/article/18mar2011/guardian/spy_usa.html
A single point of control will be located at the McDill United States Air Force base near Tampa (Florida) and will operate around the clock. Work in it will be up to 50 operators, each of which will be able to control up to 10 fictitious users, so-called puppets registered in different countries of the world, correspondents say. The contract states that every online person must have a convincing legend. It also provides sophisticated protection against exposure. According to Bill Speaks, a spokesman for the Central Command of the US Armed Forces, it is prohibited by law to influence American audiences, so the system will be used to communicate in Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashto and other languages, but not in English.


Alas, the journalist was not interested in the American bot networks. He was interested only in what he called “Kremlin trolls,” although I noticed during the conversation that “astroterfing” - manipulating public opinion by throwing artificial comments - is not a Russian word.

Let us return to the struggle of opinions in RuNet. Before 2012, the contradiction between facts and real life was decided by the liberals quite simply: they simply crushed the mass of any sprouts of dissent. When you get a dozen of objections in the key "shut up, scoundrel" on any remark in favor of the state, it becomes extremely difficult to argue. This is their old tactic tested in the 19th century. Dostoevsky also wrote in his time: "never will our liberal be able to allow someone to have his own special conviction and not immediately curse his opponent or even something worse".

Over the past year, however, the situation has changed, public opinion is now rather on the side of the statesmen. So it remains for the liberals to declare, even on approach, the “bot” of any dissident - so as not to enter into a serious dispute with him.

Gently turn to the topic of the post. If liberals of hordes of controlled bots are useful for creating an image of the enemy, then guided state bots ... simply are not needed.

On the calendar is August 2015 of the year. Most of the participants in political discussions came to the Internet not yesterday or even five years ago. Therefore, bots with their same type of “approve” or “disapprove” are very noticeable against the background of live commentators, it is almost impossible to disguise bots as real people.

On the other hand, people who can pick up a beautiful argument are now highly valued, turn the heated debate into an inconvenient course for an opponent, make a joke in time and refrain from joking in time.

In fact, we returned to those romantic times when a small detachment of knights in armor could disperse a huge army of poorly trained peasants. Quality today beats quantity with a huge margin: therefore, there is no point in investing in building armies of bots. Against living veterans of the sofa troops, these virtual armies are powerless.

Probably not always will be. It can be assumed that after some time, technical progress will force to retire and network knights. However, at this particular moment in time, the main force on the fronts of the information war is still heavily armed with knowledge. live bloggers and commentators.

I will try now to summarize the above and make a forecast.

Sooner or later, the West will have to take its head out of the sand and admit the obvious: that the battle for the minds is lost to them, and that the word "liberal" will long be pronounced in Russia without any respect.

At this point, the West will shift its efforts to work with the patriots, and will try to undermine the country from the inside, by channeling their energy in the destructive direction that the West needs. As I wrote above, the outcome of this battle will not be decided by the "bots." The outcome of this battle will be decided by live bloggers and commentators who will believe or not believe in those ideas that our western friends and partners will try to slip into them once again.

And personally, colleagues, I see exactly one way to counter this new threat hanging over us. We should study, study and study with us - in order to understand how our state is organized and to make important decisions with our own mind.
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  1. Coboklo
    Coboklo 1 September 2015 05: 37 New
    +27
    "The sad fact is that we, quilted jackets, are not considered by pro-Western liberals to be people at all."
    And we need it?
    For example, I have not considered them for people for a long time. With their triple standards. I do not think that internal and external liberals have the right to give an assessment to the people of Russia.
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 1 September 2015 08: 57 New
      -28
      All that is in the article is about nothing. And again, bots are needed only by "liberals" and "shit-western litter." There are facts - here they are (the sensational "troll factory" in St. Petersburg. You can google, if that) representing LLC "Internet Research Agency". The most real workers of the propaganda front. Make up the "right" attitude with their comments on Internet resources. And the author composes some sort of nonsense, instead of looking at the facts in person
      1. Kawaii_Strelok
        Kawaii_Strelok 1 September 2015 10: 43 New
        +5
        Eeeee .... Having provided a photo of a house, we must believe that this is a "Troll factory"?
      2. Kawaii_Strelok
        Kawaii_Strelok 1 September 2015 10: 45 New
        +1
        And the author composes some sort of nonsense, instead of looking at the facts in the face
        ...... - and where are the facts?))
      3. alex13-61
        alex13-61 1 September 2015 14: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: Explorer
        .There are facts- here they are (the sensational "troll factory" in St. Petersburg. You can google it, if that)

        Well, "google", of course, you can ... and, in the entom itself, "Google" doesn’t anyone lie ???
        You really find me such a paid agent ... For example, on this site ...
        1. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 1 September 2015 20: 45 New
          -2
          Quote: alex13-61
          You really find me such a paid agent ... For example, on this site ...
          You read his article.

          Fritz Morgen (Oleg Makarenko [1]) is the twenty-five thousandth Live Journal, the leading blog fritzmorgen. The name of the magazine uses the pseudonym Fritz Moiseevich Morgen. Founder of Wikiproject Russian expert and PolitRussia website. A statesman, an active critic of the Russian Wikipedia.

          According to the information in the profile of LJ, lives in St. Petersburg, was born in 1978. [2]
          In politics, he positions himself as a statesman and supporter of the Russian government: he supports Vladimir Putin, Dmitry Medvedev, [3] considers Shenderovich an enemy of Russia, [4] criticized people of liberal political convictions. According to opposition bloggers, he regularly received money for writing pro-Kremlin posts.
          Calls himself a metasatanist, formulated in one of the entries 40 rules of a metasatanist. [5] Each of these 40 rules has a separate entry in his journal. [6]
          1. andj61
            andj61 1 September 2015 20: 52 New
            +2
            Quote: Uncle Joe
            Quote: alex13-61
            You really find me such a paid agent ... For example, on this site ... You read his article.

            Fritz Morgen (Oleg Makarenko ..... [

            Quote: Uncle Joe
            According to opposition bloggers, regularly received money for writing pro-Kremlin posts.

            That is, you think that if your opponent declares that your post has been paid by someone, will it really be? what And without any other evidence ?! crying
            Marvelous are your deeds, Lord! lol
            1. Uncle Joe
              Uncle Joe 1 September 2015 21: 31 New
              -4
              Quote: andj61
              That is
              That is, just read the morgue, and that’s it.
              1. andj61
                andj61 2 September 2015 08: 12 New
                +2
                Quote: Uncle Joe
                That is, just read the morgue, and that’s it.

                You didn’t catch his hand when they gave him money? what Or caught? what Or did they give him money themselves? what Or did he admit it? what Or was the Kremlin officially reporting this? bully
                The meaning of the word Gossip by Ozhegov:
                Gossip - A rumor about someone based on inaccurate or knowingly false information

                Meaning of the word Hearing by Ozhegov:
                Hearing - Rumor, the news of someone else (usually not yet confirmed)

                Maybe I'm not quite right, but your words are very similar to one of these Russian words! wink
                1. Uncle Joe
                  Uncle Joe 2 September 2015 12: 37 New
                  0
                  Quote: andj61
                  Read what he writes.
      4. Weyland
        Weyland 1 September 2015 19: 57 New
        +3
        yeah ... And the minuses botted you malicious! bully

        Quote: Explorer
        sensational "troll factory" in St. Petersburg. can google if that


        But what about! Google will not let you lie!
        The main problem of quotes on the Internet is that people immediately believe in their authenticity (V.I. Lenin) bully
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      6. Dioxsin
        Dioxsin 2 September 2015 18: 22 New
        +1
        "... you can google, ..." I do not use Google from the principle.
    2. War and Peace
      War and Peace 1 September 2015 09: 33 New
      -14
      . According to them, all supporters of Vladimir Putin are divided into two categories: on bots and on the population zombified by these bots.


      Putin raised oligarchs, created state capitalism, money is still flowing abroad, the DESTRUCTION of RUSSIANS is going on in Donbas, but there is no real help from Russia, Jewish dominance in the country, both in government bodies and in the media, is estranged from the government, not Rusnano , Skolkovo is not effective, there is no sense in them, corruption scandals still shake the country, there is no social justice in the country - take this Vasilyev or Vostochny spaceport, pieces of Russia pass to the Chinese under the law on TOR, censorship flourishes, there are already THOUSAND FORBIDDEN on the website of the Ministry of Justice BOOK, there is a suppression of dissent in the country by political prisoners writer Yuri Mukhin and many others, but a lot of things, therefore, information support for the Putin regime should be at its best, bots, not bots, liberals, democrats, the truth is not visible behind this fuss, AND PRICES are growing and grow ...
      1. tomket
        tomket 1 September 2015 09: 42 New
        0
        Quote: war and peace
        political prisoners writer Yuri Mukhin

        And what, they put him in prison?
        1. War and Peace
          War and Peace 1 September 2015 09: 45 New
          +3
          Quote: tomket
          Quote: war and peace
          political prisoners writer Yuri Mukhin

          And what, they put him in prison?




          http://igpr.ru/articles/khroniki_aresta_mukhina_parfenova_sokolova
      2. vlade99
        vlade99 1 September 2015 11: 18 New
        -4
        Quote: war and peace
        , there is no social justice in the country

        A bunch (not another name) of those who disagree. That is what bothers you. Is it hard to admit?
        1. The brightest
          The brightest 2 September 2015 07: 37 New
          0
          No, it’s not hard, you need to build a new BAM, come in handy. Smerdyakovshin can be trusted with a pick. Especially under the loving revision of machine gunners. It is a pity that this is not reality, but the replenished consciousness of the liberals.
      3. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 1 September 2015 12: 53 New
        -3
        hey comrade, who are you by any chance? of those who compare the geopolitical situation with prices not on the counter? .... then you have nothing to do on this site ...
      4. Chiropractor
        Chiropractor 1 September 2015 13: 28 New
        0
        Quote: war and peace
        Putin raised oligarchs, created state capitalism, money is still flowing abroad, the DESTRUCTION of RUSSIANS is going on in Donbas, but there is no real help from Russia, Jewish dominance in the country, both in government bodies and in the media, is estranged from the government, not Rusnano , Skolkovo is not effective, there is no sense in them, corruption scandals still shake the country, there is no social justice in the country - take this Vasilyev or Vostochny spaceport, pieces of Russia pass to the Chinese under the law on TOR, censorship flourishes, there are already THOUSAND FORBIDDEN on the website of the Ministry of Justice BOOK, there is a suppression of dissent in the country by political prisoners writer Yuri Mukhin and many others, but a lot of things, therefore, information support for the Putin regime should be at its best, bots, not bots, liberals, democrats, the truth is not visible behind this fuss, AND PRICES are growing and grow ...



        aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, we are all dying moreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!! wink
      5. alecsis69
        alecsis69 1 September 2015 17: 03 New
        0
        In fact, the oligarchs were raised by Yeltsin, and Putin forced them to at least share a little with the state, for now ...
        1. War and Peace
          War and Peace 1 September 2015 19: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: alecsis69
          In fact, the oligarchs were raised by Yeltsin, and Putin forced them to at least share a little with the state, for now ...


          under ebony there were about 20 oligarchs, and already under Putin 131 billionaire and all of course dollar, so Yeltsin is resting ...
          1. The brightest
            The brightest 2 September 2015 08: 00 New
            -2
            ahahahaha yes no the oligarchs were just at EBN.
            under Putin 131 billionaire
            But what about your claim that Putin does not allow business to develop, kills the economy)))) Liberasts are such leberasts ... So, under Putin, those who know how to work, earn money? However ... That's the recognition)))))))))))))))))))) And by the way, the oligarch is a person directly involved in the political life of the country (Parashenko or Kalamoy). Prove to me how they now rule the government? One tried so in England and had a choke on a curtain in the bathroom.
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      7. The brightest
        The brightest 2 September 2015 07: 48 New
        -3
        What are you burning, but I thought the oligarchs appeared before Putin. Under the liberals: Gaidars, Germans and other Leberast-pederastic biomass, attach the national.
        there is no social justice in the country
        What are you saying, show me the country where you think it is))))))))))) The Communists have already destroyed Russia once, and also could not do anything ...
        political prisoners are being suppressed in the country
        What a pity, a pity that this is only an inflamed fantasy)))

        And the main cherry on the cake of all mishandled Cossacks
        And the PRICES both grew and grow ...
    3. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 1 September 2015 13: 03 New
      +3
      I don’t think of Western homosexuals as people either, outside people are inside some kind of lizards ...
      1. The brightest
        The brightest 2 September 2015 08: 03 New
        -1
        homosexuals are the same perverts as pedophilia, bestiality or necrophilia. It is not surprising that you consider them lizards.
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 1 September 2015 05: 41 New
    +4
    According to them, all supporters of Vladimir Putin are divided into two categories: on bots and on the population zombified by these bots
    . as if we didn’t! We treat them the same way!
    1. Blondy
      Blondy 1 September 2015 06: 13 New
      +13
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      According to them, all supporters of Vladimir Putin are divided into two categories: on bots and on the population zombified by these bots.

      as if we were wrong! We treat them the same way!


      Yes, already tired of Putin. Maybe about something else. For example, I regard the liberal anti-Putin opposition as a comprador glamorous swamp overflowing with feces.
      1. dmb
        dmb 1 September 2015 08: 43 New
        +6
        Ma'am, yes, only the so-called "bots" write about Putin, at least from that side. And more or less sane citizens give an assessment to the society in which we live, and look for ways that this society should go. With your attitude to the glamorous swamp, everything is clear. But the opposition to the current system does not at all consist of it. The swamp is just part of this system, and the showdown between him and the Putin team is just a showdown about who should rip off the people. Everything else is a slogan to attract a stupid electorate. So you can’t deny Fritsych one, he read Lenin, and quotes to the place. It's me about learning and urgent need, think with my own head.
        1. EGOrkka
          EGOrkka 1 September 2015 09: 57 New
          0
          dmb
          The swamp is just part of this system


          .... and where did you see a homogeneous society ????? A homogeneous society, either in a dream, or in fairy tales, or in crazy ideas, far from reality. Who do you relate yourself to?
          1. dmb
            dmb 1 September 2015 10: 31 New
            +2
            I did not quite understand the meaning of the question, so I will try to answer as part of the discussion. I do not belong to the heterogeneous "society" glorifying capitalism under construction in the country, whether it is power or the "liberal opposition". So I'm more likely to the opposition, which sooner or later, but will certainly return socialist relations to the country. (And without the King, for this is nonsense).
            1. Blondy
              Blondy 1 September 2015 11: 17 New
              -1
              Quote: dmb
              And without the King, for this is nonsense

              Right, take a look at the thought: delirium, nightmare and loud horror. And then also a bunch of small kingdoms divorced.
              1. dmb
                dmb 1 September 2015 12: 44 New
                -1
                As I understand it, dear, you seriously believe that the "socialist king" is a possible and useful thing. Then I wanted to listen to the rationale for this design of social structure, based on the existing definitions of the king and socialism. The current Duma, you see, is not an argument, for it fully represents the interests of the bourgeoisie and its "district leader."
            2. EGOrkka
              EGOrkka 1 September 2015 14: 45 New
              0
              I am about stratification in society. It is not possible for everyone and for everyone to build a paradise. It is not possible to include in one law both the beautiful blonde and the village sacking and the professor of social sciences and the engineer of spacecraft. There will always be "maidanut" who will consider that they are so beautiful and not at the helm, so smart and not at the trough, so significant and not caressed, so necessary and without attention! It is not regrettable to hear that capitalist enterprises are more-competitive "nation-wide".
              1. dmb
                dmb 2 September 2015 08: 38 New
                0
                As for the "embedding", I advise you to recall that the principle of socialism is the ratio of ability and labor, and you seem to reduce the ideas of communism to trivial consumption. In fact, the idea lies in the development of man and society, and not in the desire to have a golden toilet at home. Competitiveness is also a very controversial issue. Do not confuse competition and efficiency. In conditions of two competing systems temporarily, yes. And then, not one economy of the world was restored without outside help after WWII except ours. And so ours suffered the most.
      2. EGOrkka
        EGOrkka 1 September 2015 09: 01 New
        +2
        Blondy
        Here I am, for example .......


        I don’t belong to them at all !! wink
      3. alex86
        alex86 1 September 2015 20: 56 New
        0
        comprador - intermediary between foreign capital and the national market
        glamorous - outwardly attractive, spectacular, chic
        the swamp with feces is understandable without translation - i.e. rich and rapidly richer, chic (Deripaska? Potanin? Sechin?) whom you consider to be a swamp with feces (your right, and it’s hard to argue), but at the same time they are liberals (lat. liberalis, from liber - civilly free). A free-thinking person, a politically freethinker, in general a person who wants more freedom for the people and sees the good of the country in the gradual progress and unhindered development of the individual; contra to the conservative.
        (Source: "Dictionary of foreign words that are part of the Russian language." Chudinov AN, 1910)
        , while the anti-Putinists (which is possible, by the way), and even the opposition. The thought is fresh, although not indisputable ...
        1. The brightest
          The brightest 2 September 2015 08: 24 New
          0
          Well, actually, they were created under the liberal-pederastic gaydars and Germans. Why don’t they be lebirasts, they are their offspring.
    2. Babr
      Babr 1 September 2015 06: 39 New
      0
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      According to them, all supporters of Vladimir Putin are divided into two categories: on bots and on the population zombified by these bots
      . as if we didn’t! We treat them the same way!

      Especially when information is presented ......
      The author Makarenko Oleg Aleksandrovich aka Fritz Moiseevich Morgen.
      Today Oleg .... tomorrow Fritz.
      1. Kazakh
        Kazakh 1 September 2015 13: 02 New
        +2
        Especially when information is presented ......
        The author Makarenko Oleg Aleksandrovich aka Fritz Moiseevich Morgen.
        Today Oleg .... tomorrow Fritz.
        They didn’t try to pay attention to themselves Today BABR behind the blinds Victor. wink laughing
    3. satris
      satris 1 September 2015 06: 40 New
      0
      No, they also just have debily!
    4. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 1 September 2015 07: 48 New
      +2
      Well, the author is not a bot, he proved with an article ..

      In fact, we returned to those romantic times when a small detachment of knights in armor could disperse a huge army of poorly trained peasants. Quality today beats quantity with a huge margin: therefore, there is no point in investing in building armies of bots. Against living veterans of the sofa troops, these virtual armies are powerless.
      I just want to subscribe a live veteran ...
  3. Gardamir
    Gardamir 1 September 2015 06: 44 New
    +1
    To the author and everyone. I am the author of the word kremlebot. Here on Topwar about a year ago, I first wrote this word. But I mean. those who sit in the Kremlin. These are robots. They can give part of the Norwegian Sea to foreigners, and then annex Crimea, and again give something, but to the Chinese. They can start talking about justice and immediately release the crook from prison. They can begin to talk about the greatness of the country and immediately receive a slap in the face from enemies of the state they will call them partners. They are kremleboty!
    1. Alexey Lobanov
      Alexey Lobanov 1 September 2015 07: 15 New
      +5
      Quote: Gardamir
      To the author and everyone. I am the author of the word kremlebot. Here on Topwar about a year ago, I first wrote this word. But I mean. those who sit in the Kremlin. These are robots. They can give part of the Norwegian Sea to foreigners, and then annex Crimea, and again give something, but to the Chinese. They can start talking about justice and immediately release the crook from prison. They can begin to talk about the greatness of the country and immediately receive a slap in the face from enemies of the state they will call them partners. They are kremleboty!

      Well, that’s it, life was not lived in vain !!! laughing However, I personally first encountered this term in 2012 ...
      And over the past three years, I firmly became convinced that the “Kremlin bots” have completely human reasoning, logic, and very good knowledge of the facts. Unlike a variety of Eurobots, Amerobots, Liberobots, Ukrobots, etc. (EuroBots), which, in addition to hysterical Russophobia, do not have other bright qualities. yes
    2. Das Boot
      Das Boot 1 September 2015 07: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: Gardamir
      I am the author of the word kremlebot.

      do not flatter yourself. Not you.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 1 September 2015 07: 37 New
        -2
        do not flatter yourself.
        Perhaps, but my meaning is more accurate.
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 1 September 2015 07: 46 New
          +2
          Quote: Gardamir
          my value is more accurate.

          Your "value" is complete nonsense, excuse me.
          ... sed magis amica veritas.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 1 September 2015 08: 35 New
            +1
            sed magis amica veritas.
            and the truth is that you can’t trust people secretly giving a significant part of the sea to another country. Just giving. Then allegedly returned part of another country. The collapse of the country (USSR) took place peacefully, because there was a tacit agreement, the borders are accepted at the time of destruction (separation) of the country. And now they are supposedly renting out part of their country, essentially giving it away. Well, yes, you are proud, adore them, climb the wall. But for me it's robots.
            1. Das Boot
              Das Boot 1 September 2015 08: 47 New
              +2
              Quote: Gardamir
              Well, yes, you are proud, adore them, climb the wall.

              only without emotion. I am the same archaeopath as most here. This, dear, was about terminology. So, in neologism kremlebot There is a definite definition, regardless of your fantasies on the topic of power. Your personal interpretations are of little interest to anyone.
            2. The brightest
              The brightest 2 September 2015 08: 29 New
              0
              And it was not they who presented it, but a friend of Grobachev, Eddy Shevardnadze.
      2. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 1 September 2015 10: 28 New
        +1
        fix a new word for me - trollebot, not to be confused with a trolley laughing I swear by my mother I just came up with it laughing
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 1 September 2015 10: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          fix me a new word - trollbot

          ok, hold it - ©
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          not to be confused with a trolleybus

          The Uryupinsk Tram and Trolleybus Administration has no complaints!
    3. tokens2
      tokens2 1 September 2015 09: 06 New
      +2
      Gardamir
      I am the author of the word kremlebot

      I am the author of the word "expert". Not? lol
      So to say, "inflated the sails" to this "sailboat" in the word. laughing
      He was a member of the most acute historical "battles". On the theme of the greatest in the history of mankind, 2 wars. The first and second.
      More than once I observed a crunch of someone’s "rolls" laughing Tokmo in the subconscious. Not?
      How could it destroy mythologemes of the past and the present.
      In general, I am completely satisfied with the results of my "work".
      Although...
      By article:
      bots, bots, bots, all this is the western line MAZhino laughing
      Nothing new.
      It's time for real work.
      Your ikspert hi
      Ps
      If there is no “wave of underline” under your text, don’t consider yourself a captain ... of a long voyage lol
      The Day of Knowledge!
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 1 September 2015 12: 47 New
        +2
        And we all forgot the participants of the great Russian .. perestroika laughing
  4. populist
    populist 1 September 2015 06: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    According to them, all supporters of Vladimir Putin are divided into two categories: on bots and on the population zombified by these bots.

    as if we were wrong! We treat them the same way!

    According to our Russian-Soviet mentality (Orthodox-Communist), we cannot treat people like bots. This quality has positive and negative sides. Positive - we break them in a dispute. Negative - they, sometimes, impose unnecessary disputes and lead away from the topic
  5. press officer
    press officer 1 September 2015 07: 36 New
    +5
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    According to them, all supporters of Vladimir Putin are divided into two categories: on bots and on the population zombified by these bots
    . as if we didn’t! We treat them the same way!


    Yes we are! drinks
  6. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 1 September 2015 07: 43 New
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    Liberals are worse than criminals, bandits and drug addicts.
    And according to the opinion of the Westerners, we are to get down from a high tower. The elders didn’t come up with lecture and intellect to teach.
    1. alex86
      alex86 1 September 2015 20: 36 New
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      LIBERAL
      (lat. liberalis, from liber - civilly free). A free-thinking person, a politically freethinker, in general a person who wants more freedom for the people and sees the good of the country in the gradual progress and unhindered development of the individual; contra to the conservative.
      Dictionary of foreign words included in the Russian language.- Chudinov A.N., 1910.

      That is, a free-thinking person who wants freedom for the people and sees the good of the country in the gradual progress and unhindered development of his personality - worse than criminals, bandits and drug addicts? And who is better then? Or didn’t the terminology work? Maybe read the source? ...
  7. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 1 September 2015 07: 45 New
    +3
    Do not defeat Russia, including in the information war. Too high hopes are placed "exceptional" on their "knights". It’s easy to define such ones: they act according to the obtained manuals, the way of expressing thoughts is straightforward, verbose and “entices” with hatred for Russia. It seems that they do not consider those whom they turn to for reasonable people (the author is absolutely right in this). IMPORTANT: the train of thought of those living in the West is radically different from the Russian mentality. Whoever would not pretend to be, but a resident of Russia would not write like that! The brains are differently arranged with us. Here, from futile attempts to understand us, they get irritated and the simplest and most usual conclusion for them is the engagement of the interlocutor. Let them remain in what they are.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 1 September 2015 09: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: chelovektapok
      Do not defeat Russia in the information war.

      you can find out - why? Only without hackneyed quotes from "Brother-2"
      1. Weyland
        Weyland 1 September 2015 20: 20 New
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        Quote: Das Boot
        Only without hackneyed quotes from "Brother-2"


        Can I get hackneyed quotes from an enemy camp? wink
        “It is possible to deceive part of the people for a long time, or to deceive the whole people for a short time. But it’s impossible to deceive the whole people for a long time. ” Abraham Lincoln
        1. alex86
          alex86 1 September 2015 21: 03 New
          +1
          Here the question arises - who means what by "Russia", whose victory is meant, who deceives the people, who considers themselves to be the people and who does not consider whom to be the people (and why) ...
        2. populist
          populist 1 September 2015 21: 36 New
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          Weyland
          “It is possible to deceive part of the people for a long time, or to deceive the whole people for a short time. But it’s impossible to deceive the whole people for a long time. ” Abraham Lincoln

          One of the erroneous thoughts of great people.
          What does it mean for a long time? We are talking about 10-20 or 100-200 years.
          In order to deceive the people, it is sometimes enough 2-3 years, and then the train left and nothing can be returned back.
          But it is possible to deceive the whole people for a long time.
          examples:
          1 In the West for 20-30 years they consider fagots and other perverts normal people.
          2 In Russia, several. For centuries the king was considered the anointed of God.
          3 In Ukraine, for 25 years, they believe that they were oppressed by the Russians.
          and the most striking example
          4 For 1000 years, Muslims have believed in Allah, but we know that the supreme deity is Shiva or Aguramazda (joke).
  8. kugelblitz
    kugelblitz 1 September 2015 08: 13 New
    +2
    Any holivar with liberals usually tends to a trivial insult and throwing fakes by the opponent. It’s especially fun to feed sour cream in the form of pictures of the Great Depression * hohlomor *, the post-war Baby Boom * peaceful and free America * and kissing hands of the Fritz banderlogs * non-slaves (c) * ... As a rule, they don’t want to wash plates in New York, which is very upsetting sometimes such shyness of handshakes, although it may be fraught with an overdose of democracy, which they fear ...
  9. akudr48
    akudr48 1 September 2015 08: 22 New
    +1
    “At this moment, the West will switch its efforts to working with patriots, and will try to undermine the country from the inside, by channeling their energy into the destructive channel needed by the West. As I wrote above, the outcome of this battle will not be decided by the bots. The outcome of this battle will decide live bloggers and commentators "

    A serious application for victory in virtual battles.

    I recall the tale of the naked king. But in it Andersen confined himself to sewing, fitting and dressing on the king of an invisible dress, to the applause and to the pleasure of tailors and other royal servants.

    Here, Fritz Morgen is ahead of the famous storyteller, demonstrating the transition from an indoshiva to the mass production of virtual reality from an invisible uniform (such as the infantry fighting suit Ratnik) for the total vestment of all patriots of divan troops in it.

    But he doesn’t lose touch with reality, recalling that in virtual clashes with liberals, "the outcome of this battle will be decided by live bloggers and commentators."

    I agree with this, since living bloggers are required from time to time to return to reality, to acquire what is necessary for life, in order to check the effectiveness of the chosen strategy to combat bots - enemies at prices in stores on themselves.

    You should also agree and “admit the obvious: that the battle for the minds is lost to them”, the enemy was defeated, although in the battle for the stomach it is not so obvious. Options are possible, which is insulting.

    But here oil prices fail. Therefore, against the price, you should release that army of bots that were defeated by real boys.

    And the enemy will be defeated, and the victory will be ours, living bloggers, as well as commentators.
  10. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 1 September 2015 08: 28 New
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    MIL-Plyun man ... and rosotri. Do not pay attention to flawed ones. laughing
  11. kit-kat
    kit-kat 1 September 2015 09: 47 New
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    Well, some kind of kindergarten. When there is nothing to “cover” children shout “be-be-be-be”, covering their ears. And these are appointed as a “bot” and that’s it. How did the intelligentsia degrade.
  12. anderles66
    anderles66 1 September 2015 10: 10 New
    +1
    I agree with the author that it is very convenient to call an opponent a subhuman, non-Aryan, in our case, a bot. Then you can not hear anything at all, and even hearing you can not communicate (with anyone, actually?). I will not use the word "truth", quite simply - a different opinion. This is what they refuse to us - in a different opinion. As it was possible not to reckon with the right to life of non-Aryans, so it was possible not to reckon with the right to existence of a bot. I don’t even speak about the right to an opinion - a bot cannot have it in principle.
  13. Vasisualiy
    Vasisualiy 1 September 2015 11: 20 New
    +1
    I read the discussions everywhere, sometimes even on the censor. It is very easy to identify a troll from a normal person. People who have an opinion argue it, give examples, they may well be mistaken, and then admit their wrong. Bots, trolls can only come out of bile, use foul language and call an opponent vile words. But they do not have an opinion. Only a set of insults and imaginary facts, a la psaki.
    In the west it passes. The image of the enemy was created a long time ago, by definition it cannot be right, so the townsfolk are ready to believe any lies from the State Department. Our people know how to think, on faith accept someone else's opinion reluctantly.
    1. alex13-61
      alex13-61 1 September 2015 14: 10 New
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      Quote: Vasisualiy
      I read the discussions everywhere, sometimes even on the censor.

      And, what, in that garbage can you give your point of view? ...
  14. CONTROL
    CONTROL 1 September 2015 12: 43 New
    -1
    Quote: war and peace
    for this fuss the truth is not visible, And the PRICES as they have grown and are growing ...

    ... and there isn’t any water in the tap - they drank it!
    And most importantly - sausage and vodka have risen in price !!!
    (can "War and Peace" non-drinker and vegetarian, but the post (it’s even a shame to call him such!) in this style and key ... And you don’t need to be a bot, it will grow up!
  15. thinking
    thinking 1 September 2015 13: 18 New
    +5
    I put the author a plus for the phrase - "veteran of the couch troops" - it sounds juicy. Respect to all veterans
  16. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 1 September 2015 14: 01 New
    +1
    I agree with the article.
    Liberalism has acquired completely disgusting features, turning into the most ordinary fascism.
    1. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 1 September 2015 21: 07 New
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      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      Liberalism has acquired completely disgusting features, turning into the most ordinary fascism.
      But has liberalism acquired these features, or is it the bourgeoisie hiding behind the term “liberalism” that disguises capitalism with them?

      After all, if liberalism is just a mask of capitalism, then there is nothing surprising in the fact that it is so similar to fascism.

      Fascism (Italian fascismo, from fascio - bundle, bundle, association) is a political trend that arose in capitalist countries during the general crisis of capitalism and expressing the interests of the most reactionary and aggressive forces of the imperialist bourgeoisie.
  17. dudinets
    dudinets 1 September 2015 14: 10 New
    +3
    for the enemies of any country, the most annoying factor is the presence of patriots in it. and especially they annoy and scare collaborators, because they will drive the enemy away and hang the traitor.
  18. Cornet77
    Cornet77 1 September 2015 16: 47 New
    +2
    The article is not directly in the eyebrow, but in the eye! The authors are very grateful.
    I must admit that I, too (and not only me, and many of my comrades), have repeatedly been called differently in various Svidomo and liberal forums and communities. I will not list all the titles and nicknames, but by the Putin-Kremlin troll or bot, recently often call ...
    You see, the truth is, there are some unified Control Centers for opponents ...
  19. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 1 September 2015 21: 26 New
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    "... Sooner or later, the West will have to take its head out of the sand ..."
    And for me, so let it go buried. Three meters. For good. The air will be cleaner.
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  21. The brightest
    The brightest 2 September 2015 07: 08 New
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    and that the word "liberal"
    It has already turned into a contemptuous “leberast”, by analogy with a pederast. For freedom of opinion for them, first of all, is protection, protection of their perverted opinion.
    P.S. copied the article, they will be botting slowly)))
  22. Mentat
    Mentat 2 September 2015 19: 40 New
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    Quote: andj61
    You didn’t catch his hand when they gave him money? what or what? what Or did they give him money themselves? what Or did he admit it? what Or was the Kremlin officially reporting this? bully

    The most interesting thing in these stories is that during the first maidan in Ukraine, not too lazy, I dug up in the public domain information on how much specific individuals and organizations received for their activities in the CIS.

    I was then struck by the fact that these figures were simply posted on the websites of American foundations and organizations. Nobody hid this. Many people, unfortunately, are so lazy, limited and knowledgeable that this allows mass control technologies like “color revolutions” to work.