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Search engines found on the bottom of the Kara Sea drowned U-362

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Members of the search "Kara expedition" found a German submarine U-362, sunk in September 1944 by a minesweeper of the North fleet near the island of Solitude in the Kara Sea, reports Interfax-AVN with reference to the message of one of the organizers of the expedition Fertoing LLC.


Search engines found on the bottom of the Kara Sea drowned U-362


“The submarine was found at the coordinates indicated by the commander of the minesweeper of the Northern fleet T-116, captain-lieutenant Vasily Babanov. The submarine was found at the bottom at a depth of 44 meters, characteristic damage from the depth charge bomb explosions was found on the submarine hull, ”the release said.

The report notes that "the exact coordinates of the submarine U-362 will be mapped and transferred to the command of the Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy."

Currently, the “search expedition continues to work at the point of death of the icebreaker steamer“ Alexander Sibiryakov ”: the expedition members conduct underwater photo-video filming of the steamer and carry out a scientific program.”

The press service clarified that “the expedition members left the Murmansk 11 of August aboard the icebreaker Baltika (Rosmorrechflot) to survey ships of the Soviet naval convoy BD-5 sunk by a German submarine.”

It is reported that "the DB-5 convoy was sunk by the German submarine 12 August 1944 of the year 60 miles from Bely Island." “The main vessel of the convoy was a large transport steamer“ Marina Raskova ”, there were 421 people on board, including the crew, the next shift of polar explorers, the Dixon family, and military personnel. In all, the convoy ships had 760 people. According to reports, 376 people died, the fate of 66 is unknown, ”the press service said.



Last year, during the first expedition, the search engines, following the path of the convoy, determined the coordinates of the “sunken minesweeper TSC-118, the Marina Raskova transport and, presumably, the icebreaker Alexander Sibiryakov”.

As for the icebreaker, it was sunk by the German cruiser “Admiral Scheer” in August 1942 g, when it was heading for a polar station on Severnaya Zemlya. On board the "Sibiryakov" were more than a hundred people.
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  1. kil 31
    kil 31 29 August 2015 13: 11 New
    -50
    The Germans buy medallions of their soldiers. Let them pay, we will raise their submarine.
    1. milann
      milann 29 August 2015 13: 14 New
      +42
      I didn’t cheat on my soul
      speaking of war -
      from sailor graves
      shallowed seas ...
      Peace be with you, sailors,
      yes to the coast right up to!
      Yes, seven feet under the keel!
      May God protect you!
    2. Tanais
      Tanais 29 August 2015 13: 20 New
      +16
      Quote: Kil 31
      The Germans buy medallions of their soldiers. Let them pay, we will raise their submarine.

      It is unlikely that they will take such a step. They are quite happy that the location of the submarines will be declared a military burial ...
    3. alekc73
      alekc73 29 August 2015 13: 33 New
      +37
      This is a cemetery. You don’t need to touch it.
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 29 August 2015 14: 00 New
        -3
        Quote: alekc73
        This is a cemetery. You don’t need to touch it.

        This cemetery contains torpedoes that can explode quite unexpectedly. Imagine our modern submarine inadvertently hurts, lying at the bottom. Possible death of people and a submarine, you would like for yourself such a death. Therefore, it is urgent to disarm or destroy these torpedoes.
        1. Enot_33
          Enot_33 29 August 2015 14: 14 New
          +11
          Quote: Алексей_К
          contains torpedoes that can explode all of a sudden

          no need for delirium. after so many years of lying in salty sea water, nothing can explode there. As a child in Sevastopol, boys dived with a mask in the bay. So there the whole bottom is strewn with unexploded ordnance and they didn’t fall to anyone. Although here they are, get and destroy.
          1. Sibbars
            Sibbars 29 August 2015 14: 38 New
            +4
            no need for delirium. after so many years of lying in salty sea water, nothing can explode there.


            No need for delirium, after so many years a torpedo is still dangerous about 400 kg in TNT, it itself may not explode, but if it can help it very much.
          2. aleks 62 next
            aleks 62 next 31 August 2015 09: 32 New
            0
            ..... after so many years of lying in salty sea water, nothing can explode there ....


            ... Maybe even like that !!! .... After so many years of lying in the body of the TNT fill, microcracks form .... You don’t even need knocking to detonate, just shaking - even a slight one ... And .... Ba- bang !!!! .... Therefore, old ammunition is dangerous, even with rotten fuses .... hi
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 31 August 2015 10: 08 New
              +1
              I know cases when ammunition equipped with picric acid or dynamite exploded, even from air shock. But something would be so torn TNT heard the first time. But BB is BB everything can be. The PRD was torn when the gunpowder was pouring out, I myself had a case when, due to improper assembly, the start-up exploded. It’s good that we checked right away, we found another one.
    4. anokem
      anokem 29 August 2015 14: 00 New
      +1
      It would be nice to raise a boat. But who will pay it?
    5. N-SKiy
      N-SKiy 29 August 2015 19: 56 New
      +2
      Do you want to bargain with the souls of the dead? commendable.
    6. victor
      victor 29 August 2015 22: 00 New
      -3
      And there are so many minuses for that ???
  2. pensioner
    pensioner 29 August 2015 13: 24 New
    +29
    Kovalev in his "Arctic Shadows of the 3 Reich" says that the Germans had a base or something like a base right at the mouth of the Lena. Incredible in strength was the enemy. So much the more victory.
    To all those who died in the Arctic latitudes, Eternal Memory and Eternal Glory.
    1. family tree
      family tree 29 August 2015 13: 47 New
      0
      Quote: retired
      Germans had a base or something like a base right at the mouth of Lena

      Yes, easy, there and now it’s possible to go along the coast for a week, and Ruslana alone laughing
      Hello Yur hi
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 29 August 2015 13: 58 New
        0
        Quote: perepilka
        Ruslana alone

        And those very rarely appear. Thump sad , probably. Warm ... winked
        1. family tree
          family tree 29 August 2015 14: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: retired
          And those very rarely appear.

          Don’t slander, he crossed paths with you today laughing
        2. Amurets
          Amurets 29 August 2015 23: 57 New
          +1
          retired! I have a fox and Yandex, so the PM doesn’t pass from me. Drop me the mail number through your PM and I will send you the archive. In addition to Kovalev, there are a number of authors. Books: fb format /
      2. gispanec
        gispanec 29 August 2015 16: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: retired
        then the Germans had a base or something like a base right at the mouth of the Lena.

        it’s strange, it’s already painless for 3 years there ... at the mouth of Lena .... fairy tales are ... the depth there is huge ... the fish are unmeasured there ... muksun, nelma, chir .... the seal is found, lemen, deer, scribe)) ... here there is no German ... and there is no base ... fairy tales ... parking was possible ... somewhere in the area of ​​Bykovsky ... and alles!
    2. ARES623
      ARES623 29 August 2015 15: 16 New
      0
      Quote: retired
      To all those who died in the Arctic latitudes, Eternal Memory and Eternal Glory.

      I agree with eternal memory. But with fame, I would be more careful. Beat, almost unarmed merchant ship, sometimes with a woman's crew, where is the glory? Privateering, although used by state bodies, was never honorable.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 29 August 2015 17: 17 New
        +6
        Quote: ARES623
        But with fame, I would be more careful.

        Ours. Ours and Glory and Memory. And the Germans - a point on the map.
    3. Amurets
      Amurets 29 August 2015 16: 56 New
      +5
      You are right. When I read Kovalev, and he wrote six books about the Arctic, four of them about the war in the Arctic, I started looking for documents about the secrets of the Arctic. And I found that there were bases and airfields from Zapadnaya Litsa to Lena. In the memoirs of submariners from the first The submarines, in Andreeva Bay, they used German mooring devices issued before the FIRST WORLD WAR for mooring. Did the Germans look for interest in the Arctic? Kovalev writes URAN. Turned over what is possible in Uranus. There is no uranium in the Arctic except Magadan Oblast, and even when they were developed by convicts, mining was not profitable. So the film about the Northern Sea Route, about Chelyuskin’s campaign was shot in Soviet times. And as usual with the film crew security officers didn’t remove anything forbidden. So, several bases were found on Taimyr, Severnaya Zemlya, at the mouth of Lena, and the largest at the mouth of Lena. They were afraid to penetrate deep inside. I did not know what was written further, I could not find a continuation. And the link is not available. The material is called: "Chekists on guard of the Arctic"
  3. family tree
    family tree 29 August 2015 13: 42 New
    +11
    Not a hunter, not a destroyer, a minesweeper, an ordinary "sea sapper", he took and drowned. No, station wagons survive on the SF. And the 362nd, it’s necessary, you don’t have to climb, it’s not a pity
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 29 August 2015 13: 46 New
      +5
      Quote: perepilka
      minesweeper, ordinary "sea sapper"

      In addition (if my memory serves me ...) converted from civilian ..
      Hi Vova! drinks
      Read?:

      How is your health?
      1. family tree
        family tree 29 August 2015 13: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: retired
        Read?:

        Not yet, I haven’t come across it, now I’m downloading it.
        Health? Yes, FIG knows, they wrote him out, on Monday he was treating, looking at the results of a tomography, he said that the design of the spine does not correspond to the manufacturer’s parameters, in general, the loads and falls affected, he advised to change work. And so, healthy, ready for work and defense laughing
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 29 August 2015 14: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: perepilka
          the design of the spine does not match the parameters of the manufacturer

          what
          Counterfeit? sad
          1. family tree
            family tree 29 August 2015 14: 07 New
            +4
            Quote: retired
            Counterfeit?

            Nope, modernization, left what laughing
            1. pensioner
              pensioner 29 August 2015 15: 01 New
              +1
              Quote: perepilka
              modernization, left

              It is necessary to use certified workshops. request
              1. family tree
                family tree 29 August 2015 15: 23 New
                +1
                Quote: retired
                It is necessary to use certified workshops. request
                Yeah, get the paid medicine back. At the expense of certified, about 350 km from us, Duster took it from a friend, took it zero, drove it twice for maintenance, bought oil and a filter, after the second, black oil on the dipstick, unscrewed the filter, showed that one had an eye on his forehead, the one native, originally on a typewriter laughing
                1. pensioner
                  pensioner 29 August 2015 15: 36 New
                  +1
                  And then what did you do? what
                  My son and I somehow once again drove our 15th car. So they did not even wipe away the dirt under the hood ...
                  1. family tree
                    family tree 29 August 2015 15: 48 New
                    +1
                    Quote: retired
                    So they did not even wipe away the dirt under the hood ...

                    And still believe in certification belay Familiar, scored, go to the showdown for 350 km? Sorry, they will do without a certificate and there is someone to ask, it’s close. Lana, I'm leaving, I need to put running gears on a loaf, otherwise with the headlights on, well, it.
                    1. pensioner
                      pensioner 29 August 2015 15: 51 New
                      +1
                      Quote: perepilka
                      there is someone to ask

                      Not afraid? what And suddenly, due to the struggle with the operation of the car, it will lose its adequacy? sad
                      1. family tree
                        family tree 29 August 2015 17: 03 New
                        +1
                        Quote: retired
                        Not afraid? what And suddenly, due to the struggle with the operation of the car, it will lose its adequacy? sad

                        I myself cry on my own account, and if someone is impudent and demands too much, I can reverse it so that they don’t burrow, quickly the adequacy turns on. what For some reason
                      2. pensioner
                        pensioner 29 August 2015 17: 38 New
                        +1
                        Quote: perepilka
                        I can reverse it

                        no After cutting, you may not have time ...
                        stop But let's not talk about sad things. How is a dog, son, wife?
                      3. Amurets
                        Amurets 29 August 2015 17: 50 New
                        +2
                        the pensioner sent a PM there conditions
                      4. family tree
                        family tree 29 August 2015 18: 18 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Amurets
                        the pensioner sent a PM there conditions

                        On well on laughing Where you sit, there is a train station what It's time to go out, however request
                    2. family tree
                      family tree 29 August 2015 18: 09 New
                      0
                      Quote: retired
                      After cutting, you may not have time ...

                      belay Do you know Otkel? Odd, I’m always faster than thought what Then, I regret sometimes repeat Well he's faster what No, knife, it’s somehow closer in speed request But on you, shaggy, better than the 12th.
                      My son in Sevsk, I recovered from my studies, my wife in Sevsk in the hospital, my daughter in Egypt, my dog ​​is recovering a little from the influx of children, I request I’m carrying out service, from this day, RES-22 on duty on light yes
                    3. pensioner
                      pensioner 29 August 2015 18: 56 New
                      +1
                      Quote: perepilka
                      on you, shaggy, better than the 12th.

                      sad
                      Thank. I, too ... I love you very much ...
                      Quote: perepilka
                      from this day on duty on light RES-22
                      Well, that’s it. the problem of light bulbs in the family is finally solved ...
                    4. family tree
                      family tree 29 August 2015 20: 17 New
                      +1
                      Quote: retired
                      Thank. I, too ... I love you very much ...

                      No offense, I’m small and feeble, 170-68, we equalize the chances, play, or else, in a hand-to-hand hand, again you’ll give all your ears, God forbid what
                      Well, that’s it. the problem of light bulbs in the family is finally solved ..

                      Bulbs at the signaling system, we have OM-1,25 / 10 and 0,63 / 10. And the DRL250 bulbs, well, never at home, in the family, although repeat garage, two pieces light up. Achoa, 30 sq m, energy saving request
                    5. pensioner
                      pensioner 29 August 2015 20: 29 New
                      +1
                      Quote: perepilka
                      30 sq m, energy saving
                      250 watts in the garage is energy saving, right? what I always suspected you were an aligarch ... sad
                    6. family tree
                      family tree 29 August 2015 21: 07 New
                      +1
                      Quote: retired
                      I always suspected that you are an aligarch ... sad

                      Aligarch what Well, yes, probably. They appeal respectfully, asking where to put the machine, how to help, thank God that they don’t take away the welding rod, the spotter and the hammer, but I feel that they will learn soon, so I’ll only be glad. Let at least something. Son, over there, the hush plugs at Voskhod bent up, a kilogram of flux wire pulled out, so, I’m to blame myself, I ran in, but I realized, already request It was necessary to sit next to.
                      We, in Khokhshul, like boiling, sharpening, milling, and casting into molding boxes with molding, up to the composition of the molding mixture, in practice, in the laboratories, heat treatment of alloys. Ten years later, the same faculty, the same mechanical engineer, none of this happened. One theory. We work together, we just talked, for him it was a revelation.
                  2. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 29 August 2015 21: 16 New
                    +2
                    Quote: perepilka
                    But on you, shaggy, better than the 12th.

                    Quote: perepilka
                    I'm small and weak, 170-68, equalize the chances

                    I mean, and bony what And you change socks during such work once a week ... sad wassat
                    Hi drinks Gang ... damn recourse
                  3. pensioner
                    pensioner 29 August 2015 21: 20 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    And you change socks during such work once a week ...

                    You used to count them as a delicacy what . Aging, Colleague request .
                    Hi creeping drinks
                  4. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 29 August 2015 21: 23 New
                    +3
                    Quote: retired
                    Aging, Colleague

                    Born of the Revolution:
                    -Old you bastard yes
                    -You might think He’s a young bastard request wassat
                  5. pensioner
                    pensioner 29 August 2015 21: 31 New
                    0
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    bastard

                    With each such word addressed to me, your living space decreases by 1 sq. m yes According to my calculations, you only have a kitchen what . I have everything recorded winked. After NG, I’ll come into property rights. You will drive away Cruz in Finlyadsky. I'll sit in it there ...
                  6. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 29 August 2015 21: 36 New
                    +2
                    Quote: retired
                    . You will drive away Cruz in Finlyadsky. I'll sit in it there ...

                    In Penza, how many times have your head been hit on a lantern? From the entire diversity of the metropolis, choose the area where you really sit on arrival yes And according to the article that I will pick you up in a drunken stupor bully Serious Rape of Cattle is suitable for overclocking?
                  7. pensioner
                    pensioner 29 August 2015 21: 58 New
                    0
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    Grave Cattle Rape

                    Well, I learned with this herd the anthem of Ukraine, and what repeat? Immediately rape ... sad
                  8. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 29 August 2015 22: 08 New
                    +2
                    Quote: retired
                    Well, I learned with this herd the anthem of Ukraine, and what

                    Is it necessary to lay bare eggs on a board with nails? fool Or could you get by with broken brick?
                  9. family tree
                    family tree 29 August 2015 22: 17 New
                    +1
                    Quote: retired
                    Well, I learned with this herd the anthem of Ukraine

                    Oh, Yur, enlighten, whoever has a puppy dead there, or is it so compassionate that she’s dead, are they not even letting dogs into the natural? Damn, I let my son go to Uterus, the year I came, a man came, and Enti suffer for a dog, but we have these puppies in the winter in the forest, the strong survive
                  10. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 29 August 2015 22: 28 New
                    +3
                    Quote: perepilka
                    who has a puppy dead there,

                    Poroshenko yes How to report to the Parliament will come so instead of the report -..... crying
      2. family tree
        family tree 29 August 2015 21: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: Ruslan67
        I mean, and bony what

        Crushing hernia lol
        Quote: Ruslan67
        And you change socks at such work once a week ... sad

        Aha laughing Once a week I wash, in summer, ten pairs of socks, in winter five or six pairs of footcloths, and again socks. Three hundred and fifty years, Ruslan, and my legs are one of the main working tools, both horizontally and vertically, so I have to follow. Well, yes, by the end of the day, even those dressed in the morning on a fresh head stink request He ran, you know wink
        Be healthy, boyar drinks Pancake laughing
      3. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 29 August 2015 21: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: perepilka
        Be healthy, boyar

        And you there too drinks laughing
      4. pensioner
        pensioner 29 August 2015 21: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: Ruslan67
        you there too

        Well ... scoundrels and scoundrels. Maybe etta repeat ... to talk about? winked No matter how Miner Day tomorrow.
      5. family tree
        family tree 29 August 2015 21: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: retired
        No matter how Miner Day tomorrow.

        belay What do I have to do with it? Although, Kazan, undermining, what Not, well, if the miners are sappers, but not well, they dig, we, too, not exactly, sappers, it means, for Donbass, Kuzbass, Magnitogorsk and Vorkuta. 10 minutes, but it went. Startle! drinks
      6. pensioner
        pensioner 29 August 2015 22: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: perepilka
        What am I to do with it?

        But what do I have to do with it? yes . 5 years of mining experience + childhood in a mining town, father worked as the chief engineer of the mine.
        Well ... for Miner's Day! drinks
      7. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 29 August 2015 22: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: retired
        Well ... for Miner's Day!

        Maybe we’ll remember Apollo all the same ... We gathered in Skype about this soldier
      8. namer
        namer 29 August 2015 22: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: Ruslan67
        Maybe we’ll remember Apollo all the same ... We gathered in Skype about this

        The kingdom, not heavenly for him, he was a true friend. Has it really been a year already? crying
      9. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 29 August 2015 22: 17 New
        +2
        Yes request My whole family knows about him .. I wanted to write .. I had two dreams with him: That I and my grandson would fly to him in Baku And that the three of us would meet with Alibek and I reconciled them ... nothing ... but we celebrated the New Year and celebrated birthdays ...
      10. pensioner
        pensioner 29 August 2015 22: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: Ruslan67
        we celebrated New Year

        He promised to find my relatives in Baku. Did not have time...
  4. pensioner
    pensioner 29 August 2015 22: 18 New
    0
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Apollo remember

    Remember ...
  5. family tree
    family tree 29 August 2015 21: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: Ruslan67
    And you there too

    Well, at least somewhere recourse 27 minutes left, and roll on a hundred, sleep off, and with eight zero, again on the phone solid. Damn, like on an urgent basis, days before the demobilization, pah, until retirement, you need to leave this job, not already on the shoulder, but do not want to, I'm used to it.
  6. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 29 August 2015 21: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: perepilka
    . to talk about?

    Quote: perepilka
    27 minutes left, and roll on a hundred,

    Well, where were you both when Romanov and I tried to whistle you on Skype? am
  7. pensioner
    pensioner 29 August 2015 22: 01 New
    0
    Quote: Ruslan67
    were you both when Romanov and I tried to whisk you on Skype?

    The wife is ill.
  8. family tree
    family tree 29 August 2015 22: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Well, where were you both when Romanov and I tried to whistle you on Skype? am

    In the morning, they let the last chloride through a vein, then changed the generator on the loaf, then K-126G, drove it, picked up the nozzles on the first chamber, normal, without opening the second on the solid on the fourth, we’ll measure the flow tomorrow, then the roof of my garage was closed, then well , yet, between cases on VO, the dog jumped out four tablespoons of vodka for appetite belay Look like that's it what Skype is disabled for me, everything is disabled, so that VO is faster, MTS, opsos, village, whatever you want, I’ll turn on in a personal message, after zero it’s faster, but Sani will have how much, sleep the same way what
  9. pensioner
    pensioner 29 August 2015 22: 22 New
    0
    Quote: perepilka
    four tablespoons of appetite vodka

    Do not forget to hangover sad . Greenpeace is not on you ...am
  10. family tree
    family tree 29 August 2015 22: 40 New
    +1
    Quote: retired
    Don’t forget to take a hangover: sad. Greenpeace is not on you ... am

    Not one has already been dragged from that side, do not teach your father, and that’s it! Pancake. He’s sleeping, he’s gobbled up two of the porcini. Guys remember Sadik, and you're talking about greens
  11. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 29 August 2015 22: 46 New
    +3
    Quote: perepilka
    and you about greens

    And now he will sing a song about muksun and his tongue and polish the log again with a scrotum so that mosquitoes do not sit down wassat
  12. family tree
    family tree 29 August 2015 22: 34 New
    +1
    Sanya, Yura, Ruslan, Sadyka already mentioned, silently. I don’t know how he is, come on in the Orthodox, although who like

    Rise, in full, the kingdom of heaven to him
  13. pensioner
    pensioner 29 August 2015 22: 37 New
    0
    Ok guys. It was nice to see you all in good health. I also have to go to the side. Be healthy!
  14. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 29 August 2015 22: 40 New
    +3
    And how else to remember a graduate of the Ryazan Higher School of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs with a Red Diploma? I saw him personally
  15. family tree
    family tree 29 August 2015 23: 20 New
    0
    Quote: Ruslan67
    And how else to remember a graduate of the Ryazan Higher School of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs with a Red Diploma? I saw him personally

    And he, well, I was a chopper, only I said that I wouldn’t give the party card anyway, he said, well, they laughed, damn it, he commented so beautifully, Lena Egoza probably cried, and there’s nothing to support, yesterday was Sadiku
    Sanya, Lyokha, Volodya the poet, tankers, fuel oil, from the third forward, Sanya WUA, Serega, who is now driven by number 45, former Veteran Air Forsiz, Sanya MATI, Kars, ay !!! Maybe, just for the sake of Sadik, in his memory, well, you know how, well, lay out something in terms of weapons, tactics, and application. And then here, along the way, purely in VO, only Oleg Kaptsov did not give a damn about everything. Decide, in short, pull up, it depends on you, VO, or the next political review. And in politics and medicine, they understand the FSE, the truth is in medicine, until seriously what
  16. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 29 August 2015 23: 29 New
    +2
    Quote: perepilka
    . And in politics and medicine, they understand the FSE, the truth is in medicine, until seriously

    As practice shows, and they don’t understand a damn thing fool
    Quote: perepilka
    well, there was a chop

    Thanks to Gorbatom am I read this diploma from cover to cover ... Feminine dogs am
  17. Bayonet
    Bayonet 30 August 2015 08: 54 New
    0
    Quote: perepilka
    . A bulb DRL250

    It's time to switch to LEDs! Everything at my LEDs is at home - beauty! wink hi
  • GYGOLA
    GYGOLA 29 August 2015 16: 29 New
    0
    On THAT you need to be with the car and not on the skin of a sofa telly to look yes
  • Alexander-KGDU
    Alexander-KGDU 29 August 2015 15: 02 New
    0
    Not certainly in that way. Here is a picture with a hint (thin. P. Pavlinov): ...
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 29 August 2015 17: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: Alexander-KGDU
      Not certainly in that way. Here is a picture with a hint (thin. P. Pavlinov): ...

      More precisely, the American Edmirebl type squadron minesweeper obtained by Lend-Lease (during the construction period - AM-143 Arcade, went into operation on August 26, 1943) is not quite at all. Among other things, he had a QSC-1 sonar station and a Mk-10 Hedzhehog multi-barrel rocket launcher.
      Well, and U326 Oberleutenant tsur ze Ludwig Franz (by the way they did not lose her, and divers descended to her back in the war)
  • Wasiliy1985
    Wasiliy1985 29 August 2015 17: 11 New
    +2
    The respect was also aroused, like the minesweeper, it’s not at all the specialization. It is clear that there were deep bombs on board, but on the minesweeper they are more to scare off enemy submarines. And here on you - drowned! The harsh commander is Comrade Lieutenant Commander Vasily Babanov !!
  • Mr shrek
    Mr shrek 29 August 2015 13: 55 New
    +2
    Quote: alekc73
    This is a cemetery. You don’t need to touch it.

    I agree, it’s better not to touch such places
  • Abbra
    Abbra 29 August 2015 13: 58 New
    -3
    Both Germans and ours were WWII fighters. Ours turned out to be stronger. Eternal glory to both this and that. Time cancels mutual accounts ... Leaves memory
    1. anokem
      anokem 29 August 2015 14: 05 New
      -22
      Glory to the Nazis and murderers can not be. Even those Germans who fought at the front made possible the activities of the Einsatzgruppen. Another thing is that after the war Germany went through a process of denazification and the Nazi party was outlawed. If the process of decommunization were carried out exactly the same way 24 years ago in the former Soviet Union, then the fate of the former countries of the Union would have been different.
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      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 August 2015 14: 48 New
        +12
        Quote: anokem
        Germany went through a process of denazification and the Nazi party was outlawed. If the process of decommunization were carried out in the former Soviet Union just the same 24 years ago,

        But can we not outlaw the victory in the warrior? On politics, scum like Turchinov today is destroying the fate of people. Those who shouted the Glory of the CPSU today are not against communism, but against Russia. No one saw a statement condemning the Chinese Communist Party.
        1. anokem
          anokem 29 August 2015 16: 02 New
          -27
          Like the Nazi, communist ideology should be outlawed (in China, Russia, Sri Lanka). Everywhere
          1. Sergey S.
            Sergey S. 29 August 2015 16: 42 New
            +8
            Quote: anokem
            Like the Nazi, communist ideology should be outlawed (in China, Russia, Sri Lanka). Everywhere

            This is what a fright?

            Today, it’s fit to outlaw declaring the “democratic” regimes of Sashka and the EU leaders.
          2. Dr. Bormental
            Dr. Bormental 29 August 2015 18: 02 New
            +8
            Listen, with all the Jews I spoke with were smart, are you definitely a Jew?
          3. Abbra
            Abbra 2 September 2015 09: 40 New
            0
            Dude! Today the ideology of the United States and Israel, cleaner than the communist happens!
      3. Tanais
        Tanais 29 August 2015 15: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: anokem
        If the process of decommunization were carried out exactly the same way 24 years ago in the former Soviet Union, then the fate of the former countries of the Union would have been different.


        That's UKROKHUNTA, regrets it ... Just started the "process" ... Do you propose to support?

        Ready to pick up a hammer (automatic)?

      4. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 29 August 2015 16: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: anokem
        If the process of decommunization were carried out exactly the same way 24 years ago in the former Soviet Union, then the fate of the former countries of the Union would have been different.


        Would everyone be Estonians and Ukrainians ...
        Our happiness is that there is more mind in Russia, there will be no de communization.
        But de oligarchy is expected.
        1. Tanais
          Tanais 30 August 2015 13: 16 New
          0
          Quote: Sergey S.
          Our happiness is that there is more mind in Russia, there will be no de communization.
          But de oligarchy is expected.


          I would formulate a little differently: EXPECTED ...

          And this is not only a trend observed in Russia. These "TEA" are present in many "post-Soviet" ... The trouble is common.
    2. Yarik Sanych
      Yarik Sanych 29 August 2015 14: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: Abbra
      Both Germans and ours were WWII fighters. Ours turned out to be stronger. Eternal glory to both this and that. Time cancels mutual accounts ... Leaves memory

      No need to equate the Nazi scum with our people who defended our homeland from these scum.
    3. Tanais
      Tanais 29 August 2015 15: 02 New
      +10
      Quote: Abbra
      Eternal glory to both this and that. Time cancels mutual accounts ... Leaves memory


      Well, Eternal memory, let’s put it one and the other, but a GLORY, only ours ...
      [/ Center]
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 29 August 2015 18: 13 New
        +5
        there will be no "this" glory. Not for that my grandfathers perished. And time will not cancel anything. Fascists death. That's all.
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  • roskot
    roskot 29 August 2015 14: 09 New
    +1
    Not only they, but they sent us crabs to feed us. You can’t forget about it.
  • Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 29 August 2015 14: 14 New
    +2
    Let the bottom rot, the fascist village, together with the crew. "By relics and firs."
    1. Yarik Sanych
      Yarik Sanych 29 August 2015 14: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Let the bottom rot, the fascist village, together with the crew. "By relics and firs."

      I fully join!
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 29 August 2015 15: 19 New
      +1
      Dr. Bormental! Please answer how it relates to the sailors of the K-129 submarine that died on March 08.03.1968, XNUMX for an unknown reason near the Hawaiian Islands (version of the death; collision with the American nuclear submarine). And only because the Soviet government did not announce its death, the Americans tried to get it. And when This attempt was revealed. The Americans replied that the Soviet government did not announce the death of the boat and this was no one’s, abandoned property. The Americans showed the funeral of three sailors according to the ritual adopted in the Soviet Navy and then presented it to our representatives. So are our sailors good and the rest bad? No, all the sailors fulfilled their duty and their oath and the dead ships became their grave. So let's honor the places where the ships of their strangers died. This is the memory of sailors.
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 29 August 2015 15: 38 New
        +5
        Dear Amurets! In my family, as well as my relatives, and believe me, there are a lot of them, there is NOT A single family in which someone would not die or be mutilated during the Second World War. My relatives live from Ukraine (I can not write with a capital letter) to the Urals. My relatives were dying in the besieged Leningrad, my grandfather was burning in a tank on the Kursk Bulge. I am not going to forgive the Nazis for anything. For me there is no justification for them and never will be. And also there will be no memory for me to the geeks, covered by silt under the water column. Regards, Bormental.
        1. gispanec
          gispanec 29 August 2015 16: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: Dr. Bormental
          There is no justification for them for me and never will be

          so they don’t ask you to justify !!! ... you are too excited .... sorry ... sign = you can’t put between the SS and the Wehrmacht, between the fascist and the German ... even my war grandfather admitted it .... true after the war, forty years later ...
          1. Sergey S.
            Sergey S. 29 August 2015 16: 52 New
            +2
            Quote: gispanec
            sign = can’t be put between the SS and the Wehrmacht, between the fascist and the German ... even my grandfather who fought it recognized .... it’s true after the war forty years later ...

            And rightly so.
            But they would ask grandfather how to relate to the Germans and the Wehrmacht ...
            There was no mercy from the front-line soldiers either.
            1. gispanec
              gispanec 29 August 2015 17: 21 New
              0
              Quote: Sergey S.
              But they would ask grandfather how to relate to the Germans and the Wehrmacht ...
              There was no mercy from the front-line soldiers either.

              the war veterans had no mercy except ss, only to the Magyars (Hungarians) ... what they did in the Voronezh region ..... after they were not taken prisoner ... an unspoken order ...
              1. Sergey S.
                Sergey S. 29 August 2015 23: 12 New
                0
                Quote: gispanec
                the war veterans had no mercy except ss, only to the Magyars (Hungarians) ... what they did in the Voronezh region ..... after they were not taken prisoner ... an unspoken order ...

                According to the stories of war veterans, many such legends were composed.
                in fact, they did not issue orders to “not take prisoners”. At least I do not know any such document.
                But in practice, under certain conditions, even languages ​​that the scouts dragged to the headquarters, they never brought them ... "when trying to escape" ...

                Fighting without a dose of ozverin is especially difficult.
                And it’s almost impossible to fight well without a beast.

                When our first offensive was, the young lieutenants were brought by truck to the open mass graves and places of torture of Soviet people. And after such “excursions”, the combat effectiveness of our units increased sharply.
                I write from memory associating that I remember from the story of the Hero of the Soviet Union pilot Shchevchuk.
          2. Dr. Bormental
            Dr. Bormental 29 August 2015 17: 44 New
            +2
            Sorry, dear gispanec, but my family and I will not put that equal sign. Too many funerals for my relatives are kept in my special box. They have already left, but I will remember and tell my children. I will not forget, and they will not forget. Regards, Bormental.
          3. family tree
            family tree 29 August 2015 18: 27 New
            +2
            Quote: gispanec
            can not be put between the SS and the Wehrmacht

            It’s possible, even necessary, especially when they have a barrel in their hands, and then, the Wehrmacht, no less than the SS men distinguished themselves, am
            between the fascist and the German.

            Agree
        2. Sergey S.
          Sergey S. 29 August 2015 16: 50 New
          +3
          Quote: Dr. Bormental
          I am not going to forgive the Nazis for anything. For me there is no justification for them and never will be.

          And rightly so.
          The Nazis brought so much grief, and the scars have not yet healed completely.
          The wave of demographic decline is just ending.
          And the next one is just around the corner ...
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  • Amurets
    Amurets 29 August 2015 14: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: alekc73
    This is a cemetery. You don’t need to touch it.

    Yes! In the end, how much can you already talk on this topic? The ship died, it does not interfere with shipping, it must be declared a military burial.
  • Artillerist
    Artillerist 29 August 2015 14: 47 New
    +11
    Quote: anokem
    If the process of decommunization were carried out exactly the same way 24 years ago in the former Soviet Union, then the fate of the former countries of the Union would have been different.


    Yes? Let’s then carry out de-leasing too. Let's start with Israel. How many people have died to spread the Jewish faith? How many innocent souls died during the forced planting of different religions? Remember the Inquisition, remember the Crusades in Europe, Bartholomew’s Night, the baptism of fire and the sword of Russia. And militant Islam? How much more will you eat?

    Or maybe we’ll also carry out decapitalization? We brand the current market condition of "the only correct Western civilization." The financial genocide of the poor is slowly but inevitably turning much more people into dust than fascism or "bloody gebe."

    In the case of the "bloody harvest" of the human class, the communism that you want to brand has not yet come out of the "infant age." And all of you would kick babies ....
  • Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 29 August 2015 14: 53 New
    0
    Memory must be memory. This is our story! And the enemy soldier is worthy, if not honors, then memory. Whatever the attitude to the enemy, he is already defeated, this enemy, and to fall to the level of cattle blaspheming at his graves, I consider, at least, not worthy of a WINNER. Otherwise, how will we be better? ..
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 29 August 2015 15: 53 New
      +2
      If you told this to my relative, who at the age of 7, in the frozen land in besieged Leningrad, dug bones in a former garbage dump, I would not envy you.
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 29 August 2015 16: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        If you told this to my relative, who at the age of 7, in the frozen land in besieged Leningrad, dug bones in a former garbage dump, I would not envy you.

        Join.
        My all that remained in Leningrad died ...
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 29 August 2015 17: 11 New
        +2
        I sympathize with you and your relative. Apparently we touched on a very painful topic. My two uncles do not even have graves. Both died in 1941. One in Transcarpathia, the second somewhere in the suburbs.
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 29 August 2015 17: 50 New
          +1
          Forgive me too, Amurets! You are right, we dug too deeply.)))
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  • Alexander-KGDU
    Alexander-KGDU 29 August 2015 15: 06 New
    +4
    To the picture of P. Pavlinov ...
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  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 29 August 2015 20: 04 New
    +3
    Well yes. Like Marinescu, he’s a war criminal. And as "The main ship of the convoy was the large transport ship" Marina Raskova ", on board were 421 people, including the crew, the next change of polar explorers, families working on Dikson, and military personnel. In total, there were 760 people on the convoy vessels. According to reports, 376 people died, the fate of another 66 is unknown ”and“ As for the icebreaker, it was sunk by the German cruiser Admiral Scheer in August 1942 when it was heading to the polar station on Severnaya Zemlya. On board the Sibiryakova were more hundred people. " so it seems nothing special! The German ghouls got it right! It’s a pity, not everyone was killed! No matter how we had to finish it ...
  • Gouging
    Gouging 29 August 2015 20: 38 New
    0
    Found this submarine, must be given to the Germans. Let them bury their sailors. We need to look for our guys to bury them with dignity. At least "virtually" bury. What sea water will do during this time ...
  • IAlex
    IAlex 30 August 2015 10: 37 New
    0
    And what is the relationship between U-362 from the article and the photo "Marina Raskova"?