ICBM "Topol" successfully hit a conditional target at the Sary-Shagan training ground

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In order to test prospective combat equipment, an intercontinental ballistic missile RS-12M Topol was launched from the Kapustin Yar test site (Astrakhan region). The launch took place at 18: 15 (MSK) on Saturday 22 August. It is reported by the press service of the Strategic Missile Forces.

ICBM "Topol" successfully hit a conditional target at the Sary-Shagan training ground


It is reported that the combat part of the ICBM successfully hit the target at the test site in the Republic of Kazakhstan. It is about the Sary-Shagan test site. According to the statements of the men responsible for the launch, the specified accuracy was achieved.

From the press service Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:
It should be emphasized that for testing elements of the combat equipment of ballistic missiles, the Kapustin Yar test site is unique. Only its test tracks and a test range allow to test promising military equipment capable of overcoming the missile defense system, including a promising configuration in the entire range of possible conditions for its delivery to targets in the interests of the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy.


For reference: the Topol ICBM was put into service in the USSR in 1988. The maximum target range is 10 thousand km. The maximum weight of the drop warhead is 1 ton. The launch weight of the rocket is 45 tons. The maximum charge power is up to 0,55 megatons.
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  1. +49
    23 August 2015 10: 11
    It's called Hello McCain.
    1. +16
      23 August 2015 10: 16
      milann SU Today, 10: 11 New
      It's called Hello McCain.


      Yes, he’s troit again in Tallinn about GDP!
      1. +30
        23 August 2015 10: 25
        Elderly senile goes to the individual. Ugly. I would have dragged.
        1. +30
          23 August 2015 10: 31
          And here is the video .. and infographics.


          1. +62
            23 August 2015 10: 34
            Excellent start made at 2100km (for some reason, someone does not notice this) Nato hello!
            1. +9
              23 August 2015 10: 38
              Quote: Evgeniy917
              Excellent start made at 2100km (for some reason, someone does not notice this) Nato hello!


              Yes, it’s clearly visible in the pictures ...
            2. +12
              23 August 2015 11: 37
              Evgeniy917 UA Today
              Excellent start made at 2100km (for some reason, someone does not notice this) Nato hello!

              It's just that the reaction is "late". The "partners" are informed about such launches in advance - so as not to obey. This is normal international practice. We are waiting ...
              1. +9
                23 August 2015 16: 31
                Evgeniy917
                Startup made at 2100km (For some reason, someone does not notice this

                Because nektu has long known that ICBMs are able to fly and land not only at maximum, but also at medium range.
                The defense did not make complexes of "narrow" specialization bully
                1. +1
                  23 August 2015 18: 17
                  Because nektu has long known that ICBMs are able to fly and land not only at maximum, but also at medium range.

                  After all, the INF Treaty is prohibited by agreement, but for some reason this did not bother our military.
                  1. +2
                    23 August 2015 19: 53
                    Why be embarrassed, it was just an unsuccessful launch on the Kura with an emergency landing in Shary-Sagan laughing
                    The joke.

                    In fact, the INF Treaty implies maximum missile range values. And they have slightly different trajectories and cost, which is critical.
              2. +2
                23 August 2015 17: 44
                We will inform you later, when we let the "poplar" go to them, let them catch them! laughing
            3. +24
              23 August 2015 12: 06
              Evgeniy917
              Excellent start made at 2100km ... Hi nato!

              I am sure ... they noticed and are pondering the essence of THIS SIGNAL TO THE NATO ADDRESS FROM THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION!
              On Monday, POROSENKO will prove MERKEL AND the French President the need to carry out the Central Committee of the Washington Regional Committee to draw Russia into a military conflict .... of the appropriateness of which Europe is very, very doubtful ...
              So, Russia has given a clear and unambiguous signal - DAMAGED FRIENDS! BE CAREFUL ... when you PORRY will hang noodles on your ears! Do not let Ukropia unleash a new stage of hostilities ... Kiev will begin a massive offensive, Russia will not stand aside ... like NATO ... and then ... then 2100 km will have to be deployed in the opposite direction ... AND WHO'S THIS WILL WIN? EUROPE IS UNAIRABLE .... THERE IS SIMPLY ALREADY WHO WILL BE WINNING .... And Merkel and Oland perfectly understood this signal!
              This is called DIPLOMATION of SIGNALS and CONTENT!
              1. +13
                23 August 2015 13: 06
                Vanga is very authoritative, she spoke about Kursk and about Syria and about the Greatness of Russia and about Vladimir and his Glory, so I see no reason to doubt her other prediction, namely, "2016 is a cold Europe, no one will live there" kah that is feel
                1. +15
                  23 August 2015 13: 20
                  Quote: Evgeniy917
                  "2016 is a cold Europe, no one will live there"

                  It's all not so simple.whatMaybe Yarosh still undermine the pipeline in the EU. request
                2. +8
                  23 August 2015 13: 31
                  Glory to Ukraine! wassat goodbye Europe)
                  1. +4
                    23 August 2015 16: 56
                    It would be nice to make an aiming range in the Pskov region so that they would hiccup louder every launch laughing
            4. +5
              23 August 2015 12: 53
              But for sure)) this is hello to Europe
            5. +5
              23 August 2015 13: 05
              Quote: Evgeniy917
              Fine Startup made at 2100km (For some reason, someone does not notice this ) Hi, Nato!



              Hmm ... The range is up to 10000 km ... So in this case, the "partners" should notice something else - a new system for overcoming their missile defense was tested ... That's the main thing ...

              PS If we were to return the old days - the end of the 80s ... Then we were far ahead in breaking through missile defense, and the vaunted Ameru space umbrella was full of holes ...

              Now the only comfort is the hope that the Amers, satisfied with the collapse of the Union, "started up their own developments, and for this reason they did not get too far ahead ...
              1. +8
                23 August 2015 13: 36
                Their whole missile defense system was not in vain, they held demonstrations on missiles with radio beacons), and they have no chance at all against maneuvering blocks. Weapons always defeat defense. Promising hypersonic blocks (which are being tested now) will not be able to hold back even our one preparing with 500, simply because the missile overloads should be significantly higher than the target that they must bring down. And this goal is already flying within the limits of overload .... In general, Russia will not have equal peers in overcoming and protecting in the coming decades, if you do not let Russia collapse.
            6. +11
              23 August 2015 13: 27
              Quote: Evgeniy917
              For some reason, someone does not notice this.

              almost a topic, but for some reason some kind of silence request what
              Putin dismissed the deputy head of the Sverdlovsk drug police and another 11 senior security officials
              On Saturday evening, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree dismissing 12 senior security officials, according to the Legal Information Portal.

              In particular ......
              more details:
              http://www.e1.ru/news/spool/news_id-428818.html
            7. +1
              23 August 2015 19: 03
              Quote: Evgeniy917
              Start-up made at 2100km (For some reason, someone does not notice this)

              and what? friendly and cho? need further? it will be necessary, it will be further, it is necessary closer it will be closer! why notice something?
            8. +1
              23 August 2015 20: 11

              Evgeniy917 UA  Today, 10: 34 ↑ Excellent. The start was made at 2100km (for some reason, someone does not notice this) Nato hello!

              It caught my eye too. This is hello to old lady Geyrope. In which case, the first poplar "fluff" will fly to the countries with deployed American missile defense facilities.
            9. 0
              23 August 2015 20: 20
              So "Hello NATO!" Had to be launched in the other direction. The fireworks would have been noticed .. (in fact, there was no one to notice)
              Quote: Evgeniy917
              Excellent start made at 2100km (for some reason, someone does not notice this) Nato hello!
            10. +1
              23 August 2015 23: 36
              Standard track past the eyes of friends. And all sorts of agreements on the INF Treaty - and what is it? We need it so much!
            11. 0
              25 August 2015 15: 50
              No one doubts the quality of the missile launchers and the readiness of the Strategic Missile Forces. Only NATO did not scatter and "put" greetings, greetings and just waving handles on all. I would not elevate such news that is interesting to specialists to an excellent degree
          2. +3
            23 August 2015 12: 08
            Quote: concept1
            And here is the video .. and infographics

            A peaceful car, like in an anode from the 70s about a peaceful Soviet tractor, plowing land near the Chinese border - It took off, shot two salvos and disappeared from Chinese radars
            Threat Russian missiles have a very serious constructive flaw - they inevitably fall on their heads
            1. +13
              23 August 2015 14: 05

              Are you talking about this combine?)
              1. 0
                23 August 2015 16: 29
                Like yes, but the population. The Chinese are fixed, they must be defended
              2. +3
                23 August 2015 17: 47
                Quote: ShadowCat
                Are you talking about this combine?)

                It seems to me about THIS: laughing laughing laughing
                1. +2
                  23 August 2015 18: 20
                  Rather Mi-24, not Apache
            2. +2
              23 August 2015 17: 43
              Quote: Tusv
              Threat Russian missiles have a very serious constructive flaw - they inevitably fall on their heads

              Respected! Explain your idea: WHOSE (their?) Missiles are falling on their heads? belay
              1. +1
                23 August 2015 23: 49
                Quote: BoA KAA
                Respected! Explain your idea: WHOSE (their?) Missiles are falling on their heads?

                Strange Sunday today, every joke needs to be explained. God, what is waiting for me tomorrow. It's getting scary crying
          3. +15
            23 August 2015 12: 59
            In principle, something like this would still add three-dimensionality.
            1. +1
              23 August 2015 17: 03
              something like

              Otkel "firewood"? Through three states already. Are you sitting on the satellite? wink
        2. +7
          23 August 2015 10: 44
          It is a sin to laugh at a sick person wink Mind, he still moved to the Vietnam War hi
        3. +3
          23 August 2015 14: 06
          Elderly senile goes to the individual. Ugly. I would have dragged.
          -and I would be all.
        4. +7
          23 August 2015 15: 17
          Quote: Alexkorzun
          Older marazmatik goes to the individual. Ugly. I would have dragged.
          thank God that it was not "YaPvdul" .....
          1. +3
            23 August 2015 15: 36
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            thank God that it was not "YaPvdul" .....
          2. +6
            23 August 2015 17: 54
            Yabvdul-freckle (Psaka). But some Pindoc got ahead of me ... Now our little dove is on maternity leave, and we are listening to some Kirby's fellow. feel
            1. +4
              23 August 2015 19: 11
              Quote: Alexkorzun
              Yabvdul-freckle (Psaka). But some Pindoc got ahead of me ..

              you are a risky man! Jenny was divided here a long time ago, and no one even does not twitch! Remember, by rank, by weight and by fat, first "Meehan" (immediately said that e
              this is a woman) and there ... who will get ... recourse I basically can crush another ... feel
        5. +1
          23 August 2015 16: 27
          Well, actually Zhirik is also not restrained by words
        6. +1
          23 August 2015 18: 59
          Quote: Alexkorzun
          Elderly senile goes to the individual. Ugly. I would have dragged.

          in translation into YaP-YaPvdul ... (sorry, not in the first, but the topic is such .. I'm not guilty ... request )
      2. +5
        23 August 2015 14: 47
        and another one of my comments over the past year:
        Observer 2014 (5) RU 16 august 2014 07:44
        In March of this year, at the very beginning of the crisis in Ukraine, a ballistic missile was launched from the Kapustin Yar firing range at the firing range in Kazakhstan. Launch distance of about two thousand kilometers. Here and draw conclusions on what our rocketers are capable of. And in Europe, if you didn’t notice this launch, you need to demonstrate it a couple more times.
        1. -1
          23 August 2015 21: 22
          Quote: Observer2014
          . Launch distance of about two thousand kilometers. Here and draw conclusions on what our rocketers are capable of.

          Do you hope to laugh? have not heard of distances of 11 thousand? etc? and tp? ... but in vain ... we can! Yes
      3. +1
        23 August 2015 17: 27
        Perfectly! And it would be better if this racket hit the target, somewhere on the proving ground in the states, then Makesha would be speechless. laughing
    2. +22
      23 August 2015 10: 50
      But what does this old bastard Mackin have to do with it. Look at the root of what is happening. Who will say what is the distance from Kapustin Yar to "Sary-Shagan" ?? Count. Now they understand what I mean. The first such launch last year was. This is a warning to all NATO. "Even to think to touch us that they would not dare" Gorby and Reagan banned medium-range missiles. And our intercontinental missiles can hit at medium distances. Hello Brussels!
      1. +9
        23 August 2015 11: 34
        The Strategic Missile Forces do not touch any sanctions, they just fuse pencils from point A to point B (Washington), and this is normal, this is very good. My warm greetings to everyone who provides such starts, management commanders, support and security teams, staff --- I express YOU high thanks! drinks soldier
        1. +18
          23 August 2015 12: 26
          The three-stage RS-12M missile is equipped with a new warhead / hypersonic cruise missile, which flies at an altitude of only 12 km at a speed of 6 km per second and maneuvers with overloads in 200g, it is not possible to shoot down, radars cannot see it, it flies in a plasma cloud, and the plasma does not reflect the radar beam but absorbs it, and therefore on the screens of the radar monitors is void, the two steps work out just 90 seconds ...

          launch in Kap.Yare, so that the adversaries could not calculate the telemetry :)))
          1. +1
            23 August 2015 13: 07
            Quote: cosmos111
            launch in Cap.Yar, so that the adversaries could not count the telemetry :))
            Aero don’t know, sorry comrade, don’t know that everything is so secret in QW drinks Divisions came to Emba on a planned basis, everything happened, and even 10 years ago, now it’s the same (with the MZA firing at the camera)))) respecting the commissars who sometimes led battalions into battle ... agree with everything
            1. +2
              23 August 2015 13: 18
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              Aero don’t know, sorry comrade, don’t know that everything is so secret in QW


              I served, I was at the training ground, Cap.Yar, at point five, they used to secret it, now I don’t know ((dermocrapia / partners ... from all sides LA :)))

              but this is the only internal route for testing rockets ...
              1. +4
                23 August 2015 15: 23
                AND, MOST IMPORTANT !!!

                How should the mysterious “4202 object” work? It is unlikely that the Americans see their hypersonic gliders intended for the program "Lightning fast global strike." They accelerate to the speed of 5-6 Mach and then, gradually decreasing, go to the target. In this case, the speed drops significantly, and the glider becomes vulnerable to conventional air defense systems.

                Our device will, apparently, act differently. Separated from the carrier at an altitude of 250 kilometers, warheads can ricochet from the atmosphere and can travel up to 16 thousand km in the altitude corridor 40-60 km. At the same time, writing out such turns that the target will come at least from the Caribbean Sea. And immediately before the target, the device will begin to dive almost vertically. Try to intercept. The Americans tried to do such maneuvers. But their product was not able to withstand heating with simultaneous overloads and collapsed. The developers climbed into the back of the head for an answer, but could not find it. Search to this day.

                And our device, it seems, is being improved and periodically undergoes flight tests. And if successful, the US-created global missile defense system will become meaningless: even in the most distant future, it is impossible to create an interceptor missile maneuvering with speed and overloads greater than a hypersonic warhead.
                http://tvzvezda.ru/news/krasnaya_zvezda/content/201508221027-m1wg.htm
          2. +3
            23 August 2015 13: 41
            about 200 g, it seems unrealistic for the filling,) somewhere within 150 g I believe)
            1. +7
              23 August 2015 14: 16
              We have the stuffing on the tests exposed to 40000 - this is for guided artillery shells.
          3. +2
            23 August 2015 17: 18
            Quote: cosmos111
            what would the telemetry adversaries could not calculate

            I’ll go rummaging through the bins ... without a sip, sometimes I don’t understand Nichrome CHO write ... what
        2. 0
          23 August 2015 17: 23
          ... staff-I express my gratitude to you ...
          Stormbreaker.

          How nice to receive thanks from the marshal ... / Joke /.
      2. +5
        23 August 2015 12: 08
        Well said! Both Putin and Medvedev, "and other members of the delegation" will feel very confident.
        1. +1
          23 August 2015 12: 48
          Not only clearly, but also clearly shown
      3. +6
        23 August 2015 13: 10
        Quote: Observer2014
        And our intercontinental can hit at medium distances. Hello Brussels!



        Here, well done, fully justified his nickname !!!

        Conclusion - 100% correct ... There has always been a problem with the MKR - shooting at short distances ... It’s easier to pull in the USA than in some kind of Berlin ...
      4. +6
        23 August 2015 14: 34
        my koment over the past year:
        Observer 2014 RU August 17, 2014 09:35 | Long-range universal
        The ban on medium-range missiles exists, of course, only, as I wrote above, in connection with the latest events, it seems to be not there. As it turned out this spring, our ground complexes of ICBMs are successfully capable of delivering "gifts" to our partners at any distance and at the same time the accuracy remains what is needed. So the third world war is canceled, this is for those who are afraid of NATO.
    3. +11
      23 August 2015 11: 27
      Quote: milann
      It's called Hello McCain.

      it is called "stick your nose - get it in the balls!"
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    5. +4
      23 August 2015 12: 26
      Eh, I would agree with Argentina or Cuba that they have the same training ground as in Kazakhstan. laughing
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      2. gjv
        +2
        23 August 2015 16: 44
        Quote: siberalt
        Eh, I would agree with Argentina or Cuba that they have the same training ground as in Kazakhstan.

        Then it's better, as in the Astrakhan region. As for "like in Kazakhstan", it is already necessary to negotiate with Texas and Florida. bully
    6. wow
      +3
      23 August 2015 12: 26
      More of such Topol, Ashen and other representatives of the flora ...!
      1. +3
        23 August 2015 12: 58
        Only its test tracks and ground measuring complex allow you to experience promising combat equipment capable of overcoming the missile defense system

        When the Russian Defense Ministry says that it is experiencing the promising equipment of an ICBM capable of overcoming NATO missile defense, somewhere in the world, McCain is sad.smile

        Here is the news is very interesting. Hello, NATO. wink
        An air group is created in the CSTO to transport troops to the conflict zones
        "We have prepared a proposal for a decision by the Collective Security Council on the creation of collective aviation forces of the CSTO, which will directly ensure the transfer of our forces and means," said CSTO Deputy Secretary General Valery Semerikov.
        http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150823/1202286072.html#ixzz3jd9e6s8B
    7. +3
      23 August 2015 12: 59
      Quote: milann
      It's called Hello McCain.



      Most likely, this is hi missile defense of the Americans ... New systems of overcoming it are being tested ...

      PS Let the Young Europeans and Novo-NATO members think about deploying NATO missile defense elements (more precisely, the United States) on their territory ...
    8. +2
      23 August 2015 19: 29
      Yesterday I watched from the balcony)))
      1. +1
        23 August 2015 20: 26
        yeah (also watched). nice, however, in Soviet times the sky over my city was "decorated" with poplars much more often. Let's hope this is just a start. and it will go.
    9. +2
      23 August 2015 20: 12
      Quote: milann
      It's called Hello McCain.

      No, this is "your lard for tinsel" is called = the answer to our missile tests according to their notions included in the class of prohibited, that is, in Russian speaking, we all ballistic, strategic missiles can perform tactical work .... I'm lying around. .. laughing
    10. wk
      +2
      24 August 2015 02: 28
      Quote: milann
      It's called Hello McCain.

      hello to McCain and his compatriots sent to Kamchatka, and judging by the fact that this missile was sent to Kazakhstan from a distance it is hello to our European partners from Paris, Berlin, London ...
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  2. +6
    23 August 2015 10: 12
    Yes ... this is not "Tephodong-2" for you ...
  3. +21
    23 August 2015 10: 15
    Fly, dear, fly! And only AIM!
    This is very pleasing, against the background of other events in the world.
    1. Tor5
      0
      23 August 2015 11: 36
      I want to believe that people, cities and towns will never become a goal. BUT! One must be prepared for everything.
  4. +12
    23 August 2015 10: 16
    Monoblock Poplars are already outliving their age. I remember how the American general complained that the Yars already have a divided warhead.
    1. +9
      23 August 2015 10: 23
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Monoblock Poplars are already outliving their age. I remember how the American general complained that the Yars already have a divided warhead.

      Separating warheads are no longer relevant smile Now, the development and testing of maneuvering hypersonic warheads is in full swing. It seems like in five years our new strategic hypersonic missiles will begin to put on combat duty. This is an unambiguous kapets of any missile defense system.
      1. 0
        23 August 2015 10: 52
        Hypersonic strategic missiles in service in 10 years will appear - they are still full of technological problems.
        1. +2
          23 August 2015 11: 16
          Quote: Vadim237
          Hypersonic strategic missiles in service in 10 years will appear - they are still full of technological problems.

          Yes you! These are strategically important developments and, therefore, top secret. You can misinform our "sworn friends" as much as you like with the difficulties of realizing this type of weapons, but the process is moving towards completion. Read this one, for example http://agitpro.su/perepolox-v-pentagone-rossijskie-giperzvukovye-rakety-na-podxo
          de /
          1. +1
            23 August 2015 13: 47
            I was referring to hypersonic missiles with scramjet engines, not warheads that already fly at fast hypersound.
    2. +14
      23 August 2015 10: 25
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Monoblock Poplars are already outliving their age. I remember how the American general complained that the Yars already have a divided warhead.

      That's right, they work out for missile launches ready for reduction.
      1. +2
        23 August 2015 13: 30
        Quote: Sith Lord
        That's right, they work out for missile launches ready for reduction.



        I am addressing both Lord Sith and Penetrator ...

        Guys, do not confuse flies with cutlets ... The rocket (product) is one thing, and the warhead (MS) is a little different, although they make up a single whole ...

        And their development is carried out by different people, design bureaus and enterprises, and maintenance-operation ...
        Heads are customized for products ... It will be possible to put a monoblock on the future Sarmatian ... Watching - for what purposes ... If the enemy’s missile defense is at least a little destroyed and goes to pieces, then send the package in the form of a powerful monoblock part to intimidate the enemy and stop his fighting - this is the very thing ...

        PS Only after such "parcels" won't the old Earth go crazy ???
        After all, nobody really tried this (well, except for Khrushchev and Sakharov, and then at full strength), they are only trying to lose by computer simulation ...
    3. 0
      23 August 2015 13: 21
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Monoblock Poplars are already outliving their age. I remember how the American general complained that the Yars already have a divided warhead.



      It is unlikely that they will abandon monoblocks in the near future, they will leave something ... So to speak, to retaliation ... It is not for nothing that the Amers called the Amers Satan ... It is precisely because many of their warheads carried megaton charges. .. So compare - 20 ct to Hiroshima and 1 Mgt - to ... Well, we ourselves know who and where ...

      Separating warheads also played a powerful role in their time, and continue to play it, if only because they are equipped with a missile defense system ...

      And it's too early to talk about hypersonic ones ... The issue has not yet been worked out and the missiles are not on alert ... So let them be finalized, tested, not forgetting about the "old" monoblocks and MIRVs ...
    4. +1
      23 August 2015 14: 06
      Poplar M already has the ability to replace the monoblock head with separable ones .... which is logical, because Yars has its further modernization)
  5. +3
    23 August 2015 10: 17
    Poplar will probably be removed from service in 2025, along with the P36M2 Governor.
    1. +4
      23 August 2015 10: 21
      Ours darkens with Satan. I recently read an interesting article on extending the shelf life of these missiles. They allegedly are carriers of hypersonic warheads that can accelerate to such speeds that the American pro will simply be powerless. So I think the Voivode will stand guard over the Motherland hi
      1. +2
        23 August 2015 10: 46
        In 2025, the Sarmatian ICBM will enter service, and the Voivode can be disposed of by launching satellites into orbit.
        1. +1
          23 August 2015 11: 01
          disposed of by shelling kukuev am
          1. 0
            23 August 2015 13: 42
            No, let them continue to devour themselves from the inside.
      2. +2
        23 August 2015 13: 35
        Quote: Magic Archer
        So I think the Voivode will stand guard over the Motherland



        Yes, the problem is what ... A good, powerful, reliable rocket ... It was ... After all, its service life has already been infinitely extended ... Think for yourself: here it has been in the "glass" for 10 years ... 20 years .. .30 years ... And then the order came to Start ... And there is no confidence in the normal launch mode and further flight ...

        So, no matter how sorry the missile, and for a long time it was already necessary to think about replacing it, right after the collapse of the Union ... Especially when Dnepropetrovsk repairmen served it for 25 years, even when relations between Russia and Ukraine began to strain ...
  6. +1
    23 August 2015 10: 22
    In order to test promising military equipment ...

    As I understand it, experienced some promising warheads, just using the old media?
    1. +1
      23 August 2015 13: 37
      Quote: Moore
      As I understand it, experienced some promising warheads, just using the old media?


      Yes, it’s written in the article ... The essence is innovations in the system of overcoming the enemy’s missile defense ...

      But the Observer well noticed that the missile was launched at a distance of 2100 km, that is, according to the parameters of the RSD, and this is great ... This means that it is possible for the MKR missile to launch a bullet across Europe ...
  7. +13
    23 August 2015 10: 27
    When the poplars are removed, we will already have rockets by characteristics such that the monkey Aegis will rest on the sidelines, because they themselves can’t come up with anything, look at all their scientists, GLORY OF OUR ARMY AND NAVY AND OUR SCIENTISTS.
    1. +5
      23 August 2015 11: 52
      missiles with us, as always, for 5 + _but to fight in the coming decade, the RA will not have to use smart remotes of stunning missiles (although the readiness of the Strategic Missile Forces is always a good argument). But you have to regain your regioanal in Plaston, under fire ... Your KAA in the subject, let he gives precise targets for linear infantry.,
    2. +1
      23 August 2015 16: 56
      Quote: gryaznov.igor.
      they themselves can’t come up with anything

      This kind of nonsense makes one doubt the author's legal capacity!
      Quote: gryaznov.igor.
      look at their scientists all the vagrants

      What do you mean by the word stray, and how do you sort them, it just might happen that only Indians will remain "endemic" ?? For example, scientists of the USSR of Jewish nationality, they are in your stray or what?
  8. +5
    23 August 2015 10: 29
    Well, I say, from the porch we will not miss a bullet. And who will forbid something? Do not poke your nose where they do not ask, and you will live, people. Why can't they live? Again, you need to rob someone to maintain the standard of living of your population? "Flawed", as our Uzbek used to say in the army.
  9. +6
    23 August 2015 10: 32
    Oh, a hefty fool! They are terrible all the same, and beautiful ... Terribly beautiful! good
  10. +3
    23 August 2015 10: 35
    Start Poplar at 2100km (INF)? No, I don’t know!)
    1. +1
      23 August 2015 11: 22
      Quote: Evgeniy917
      Start Poplar at 2100km (INF)? No, I don’t know!)

      Maybe they fired back along the "Big Curve", there was such a trail of missiles in Iran and Israel. Logically, the B / h flew to Saryshagan from the south. And not from the north-west. Some train to hit, others to detect.
      1. +2
        23 August 2015 12: 03
        The "Poplar" warhead in a ton, even if slaughtered by an order of magnitude, the range will not increase significantly.
      2. +6
        23 August 2015 12: 18
        Here calculate the trajectory laughing
        The missile hit the training target with Syryshagan.
        UFO over Omsk again: the object flew towards Kazakhstan.
        The night before, eyewitnesses saw a span over Omsk of an unusual object, which is commonly called a UFO. The trajectory of his flight was from north to south. Take pictures failed due to cloud cover.

        As it turned out, exactly the same object was observed by residents of other regions, not only in Russia. The Uzbek site 12news.uz reported that an object of similar shape was seen in the sky over Tashkent.
        http://gorod55.ru/news/article/5737631b-0af0-4841-dee0-753d4ac77566
        Uzbekistan, Tashkent, 12news.uz - Yesterday, on August 22, residents of the capital of Uzbekistan in the interval 20.15-20.30 saw an unusual object in the sky.

        http://www.12news.uz/news/2015/08/%D0%B6%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8-%D1%83%D0


        %B7%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%


        B4%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D0%B5/
        Given that there is a three-dimensional space at the top, this is aerobatics.
  11. +7
    23 August 2015 10: 40
    Fly doves, fly. There is no barrier anywhere for you.
    Carry, dear, carry
    Hello to Americans !!!
  12. +4
    23 August 2015 10: 42
    That’s interesting, why not organize the same training ground in Nicaragua and conduct training launches every six months? laughing
  13. +5
    23 August 2015 10: 44
    Our RS-12M Topol is good. us pride and enemies to intimidate.
  14. +16
    23 August 2015 10: 46
    The Topol ICBM was put into service in the USSR in 1988. Maximum target destruction range - 10 thousand km
    1. -2
      23 August 2015 14: 03
      But only America, in the case of greening its poplars in return, will strike at us two and a half times more powerful than we do against them.
      1. 0
        24 August 2015 13: 36
        Yah ? Will It take off from them? No one wants to live in a radioactive desert. "Mad Max" comes to mind for some reason.
    2. 0
      24 August 2015 13: 33
      Quote: pvv113
      The Topol ICBM was put into service in the USSR in 1988. Maximum target destruction range - 10 thousand km


      And how much fluff from "poplars".
  15. +6
    23 August 2015 10: 53
    We are peaceful people, but our armored train stands on a siding ...
    Hello to the mattresses! ...
  16. +3
    23 August 2015 10: 59
    Quote: Moore
    As I understand it, experienced some promising warheads, just using the old media?

    Of course, they tested new combat equipment, but without using the Topol ICBM, that is, the old carrier. The video clearly shows that this is not a serial, classic "Poplar"

    Quote: bmv04636
    That’s interesting, why not organize the same training ground in Nicaragua and conduct training launches every six months?

    In fact, for such ideas should be put to the maximum, as a betrayal of the homeland


    Quote: Evgeniy917
    Start Poplar at 2100km (INF)? No, I don’t know!)

    Actually, this is not a Topol in service.
    1. 0
      23 August 2015 13: 14
      Min of defense they know better wink
    2. 0
      23 August 2015 14: 21
      Quote: Old26

      Of course, they tested new combat equipment, but without using the Topol ICBM, that is, the old carrier. The video clearly shows that this is not a serial, classic "Poplar"

      Nothing clear is visible there - the "head" is clearly different, the rest is overexposed. They started up from the old "Krona" (you can count the elements long) - hence the chassis - 7917.
      As an option - it is planned to somehow usefully use the dismantled "Topol" - why not in the above version of the RSD?
  17. +3
    23 August 2015 11: 02
    Quote: gryaznov.igor.
    When the poplars are removed, we will already have rockets by characteristics such that the monkey Aegis will rest on the sidelines, because they themselves can’t come up with anything, look at their scientists

    Under one and all necessary condition. If the United States will not do anything all these years. They can't come up with anything - the first homing missiles on ICBMs and SLBMs are theirs, the first long-range cruise missiles are theirs. so it’s not worth talking about the fact that the enemy cannot and cannot do anything ... You can still pick up a few dozen examples where exactly the Americans were the first ...
  18. +3
    23 August 2015 11: 22
    Quote: Vadim237
    Poplar will probably be removed from service in 2025, along with the P36M2 Governor.

    Much earlier. The "lifespan" of solid-fuel missiles is shorter than that of liquid-propellant ones. Now there are about 72 of them, most likely taking into account the removal of 1-2 regiments a year, in 3-4 years they will be gone. In any case, they will not live to 2025

    Quote: Magic Archer
    Ours darkens with Satan. I recently read an interesting article on extending the shelf life of these missiles. They allegedly are carriers of hypersonic warheads that can accelerate to such speeds that the American pro will simply be powerless. So I think the Voivode will stand guard over the Motherland

    Generally not extending the shelf life, but extending the service life. Now the work on the extension will be carried out by the SRC instead of the Yuzhny KB. This is not good, but alas, the situation is hopeless. Most likely, at least until 2020-2025, they will hold out, although the deadline is not very good. But by 2020 the replacement for "Sarmat" may begin (I hope that in 4-4,5 years it will still be brought to the series ...

    R-36M2 missiles are not carriers of hypersonic warheads (in the context in which everyone is talking about them now). And it will not, because all this will require a change in the design of the warhead rocket.

    Yes, and the phrase itself
    ... hypersonic warheads capable of accelerating to such speeds that the American pro will simply be powerless.

    sufficiently incorrect. No such speed that such a warhead can achieve is an obstacle to an interceptor of the ABM system. For missiles - this is a problem, but how the development of missiles will continue in the future is now quite difficult to say. In any case, the issue with the speed of missiles is solvable.
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    3. +6
      23 August 2015 13: 26
      Quote: Алексей_К
      The iron dome does not save from a similar Russian whip


      Nobody will be saved from our whip ...
      In the case of Israel, it’s not a whip. ISIS is right there. They will cut the entire population of a small state with great pleasure.
      Now Israel is between two fires, on the one hand the enemies that he himself gave birth to, on the other hand, ISIS generated by the USA.
      But the United States seems to be an ally ... And if the Americans merge Israel, then what?
      He (Israel), without a big war, is already in the ring ...
      The Kupol does not save you from a massive attack of militants from all sides ...

      I think that for us Israel is not a likely adversary, there are a third of our people (there was a quarter under Vysotsky, now a third).

      Well, "Poplar" is for our "sworn partners" in the USA, Europe, etc.
  20. +1
    23 August 2015 12: 02
    Sary-Shagan polygon PRO. I wonder who won, our missile defense or Buran.
    1. -2
      23 August 2015 13: 52
      Worse - both missile defense and Buran lost.
  21. +2
    23 August 2015 12: 02
    Quote: Алексей_К
    They know that the Iron Dome does not save from a similar Russian whip, and all sorts of Hets there are a solid fiction

    Khetsi is not a fiction. but they are not intended to intercept ICBMs, incl. and Russian.
    1. +3
      23 August 2015 12: 31
      Quote: Old26
      Quote: Алексей_К
      They know that the Iron Dome does not save from a similar Russian whip, and all sorts of Hets there are a solid fiction

      Khetsi is not a fiction. but they are not intended to intercept ICBMs, incl. and Russian.

      I don’t want to argue with you, because I claimed the same thing. Still, the Hets-2 is designed to intercept precisely ballistic missiles, but medium and short range. It’s just that our ballistic missiles fly in space most of their trajectory and enter the atmosphere with space velocity as close to the target. The Israeli system cannot intercept these missiles. Therefore, I wrote that the Israeli Hets are a fiction. They (Atalef and Professor). previously boasted of their newly created missile defense system based on the Iron Dome, Hets-1 and Hets-2, as a super missile defense.
      I don’t want to put you a minus either, because we affirm the same thing.
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      2. +1
        23 August 2015 12: 43
        Quote: Алексей_К
        They (Atalef and Professor). previously boasted of their new missile defense system based on the Iron Dome, Hets-1 and Hets-2, as a super missile defense.

        So they crossed the LCD with Hets-1 and Hets-2 ... and got it?
        Aleksey, you know, at school they write statements - to check the understanding of what is written, in this you probably have modest successes, but as for the essays - just 5!
      3. +5
        23 August 2015 17: 03
        for Aleksey_K:
        "It's just that our ballistic missiles fly in space for most of their trajectory ... The Israeli system cannot intercept these missiles." ///

        We are working in this direction.
        Not against specifically Russian missiles, but against any medium-range ballistic missiles in principle. Arrow 2 block-3, similar to the Aegis rockets, intercepts the BR on a high portion of the trajectory in space.
        Destroying a target with a direct hit, like Aegis. But the system is still under test
        and its reliability is unlikely to be 100%
  22. 0
    23 August 2015 12: 04
    The hit of the warhead at the "point" is the victory of the Strategic Missile Forces, and how did the ABM calculation work on Sary Shagan? If only detection and tracking, then well, but if the task was to "destroy"? So count it.
  23. +4
    23 August 2015 12: 05
    Quote: gleb49
    Sary-Shagan polygon PRO. I wonder who won, our missile defense or Buran.

    Yes, Anatoly! Deep thought. So deep that the pardon of meaning in this thought is no longer visible because of the depth
  24. +1
    23 August 2015 12: 06
    It's good that our Strategic Missile Forces "keep themselves in shape"!
  25. +2
    23 August 2015 12: 07
    Quote: gjkrjdybr50
    The hit of the warhead at the "point" is the victory of the Strategic Missile Forces, but how did the ABM calculation work on Sary Shagan?

    And where does the calculation of missile defense? The new BO is being tested along the "short track".
    1. +5
      23 August 2015 12: 41
      Quote: Old26
      Quote: gjkrjdybr50
      The hit of the warhead at the "point" is the victory of the Strategic Missile Forces, but how did the ABM calculation work on Sary Shagan?

      And where does the calculation of missile defense? The new BO is being tested along the "short track".

      During test launches of ballistic missiles, all missile defense systems are checked for their interception capability. Surely, the future C-500 system, in some form, was present at the tests, because its adoption is planned in 2016
      1. -2
        23 August 2015 13: 53
        Rather, with 500 will be adopted not earlier than 2020 year.
        1. 0
          23 August 2015 16: 37
          Quote: Vadim237
          Rather, with 500 will be adopted not earlier than 2020 year.

          On many sites on the Internet it is written that it is planned to commission C-500 in 2016.
          Example: "http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-373.htm",
          or here: "http://topwar.ru/14006-zagadochnyy-s-500-izvestnye-podrobnosti.html"
          1. +2
            23 August 2015 16: 58
            On many sites, they wrote a lot, and given the fact that our adoption of new types of equipment has been constantly shifting, such a complex system as the C 500 will not be an exception. And 10 divisions will not make much weather, most likely they will be placed around Moscow, as an addition to the A 235 being created.
    2. 0
      23 August 2015 19: 23
      With such launches, the Strategic Missile Forces, missile defense and missile defense systems solve their tasks, and if the task was to destroy, then the missile defense missed the target .., hence conclusions. Or do you think that each component solves the problems individually? Too expensive and not reasonable.
  26. +4
    23 August 2015 12: 10
    Yes-Sary-Shagan is still operating. I served there in the city of Priozersk in 77. And now on Google I found this town, everything is destroyed, everything is empty. And the landfill is still rented, you see. The place is dull, salt marshes, desert and . Balkhash nearby. And mosquito sea.
  27. +2
    23 August 2015 12: 14
    Quote: 933454818
    Yes-Sary-Shagan is still operating. I served there in the city of Priozersk in 77. And now on Google I found this town, everything is destroyed, everything is empty. And the landfill is still rented, you see. The place is dull, salt marshes, desert and . Balkhash nearby. And mosquito sea.

    Go to the Priozersk website. There the photo is even worse. My friend and his father served there. So when he showed his father the ruins of the VTs (I don’t remember on which platform), then his father broke a tear ... They still rent a landfill, there’s no other
    1. 0
      23 August 2015 15: 04
      I can’t say for sure, but gossip went that this Computing Center was somewhere not far from Priozersk-4. I happened to be a teacher at the Stroibatsky teacher of electricians and electricians with a salary of 115 rubles. per month.
  28. -5
    23 August 2015 12: 41
    It's time to throw thermonuclear teratonic.
    1. +2
      23 August 2015 13: 57
      You at least imagine the size of a thermonuclear warhead per teraton.
      1. +5
        23 August 2015 16: 48
        The size is nonsense, here you have to think about the consequences of such an explosion. The Tsar Bomba, for example, was originally supposed to have a capacity of 101 megatons, but later it was decided to cut it in half - to 51 megatons, as Khrushchev said, "so that the windows would not fly out of the windows in Moscow." In fact, they were simply afraid that after SUCH an explosion would begin uncontrolled synthesis of hydrogen in the atmosphere and the scribe of the Third Planet. 1 teraton is 10 ^ 12 tons, which is almost 20000 times more powerful than the Tsar Bomb !!!

        Why am I all this, sergey51046, it is not customary to write nonsense on this site hi
        1. +1
          23 August 2015 18: 43
          Yes, vryatli with the explosion of 101 Megatons, a self-sustaining process of burning hydrogen will begin, but with the explosion of 1 teraton - most likely it can - maybe someday in the distant future when exploring other planets, a person will use such energy to create an artificial sun.
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      2. +1
        23 August 2015 16: 48
        The size is nonsense, here you have to think about the consequences of such an explosion. The Tsar Bomba, for example, was originally supposed to have a capacity of 101 megatons, but later it was decided to cut it in half - to 51 megatons, as Khrushchev said, "so that the windows would not fly out of the windows in Moscow." In fact, they were simply afraid that after SUCH an explosion would begin uncontrolled synthesis of hydrogen in the atmosphere and the scribe of the Third Planet. 1 teraton is 10 ^ 12 tons, which is almost 20000 times more powerful than the Tsar Bomb !!!

        Why am I all this, sergey51046, it is not customary to write nonsense on this site hi
  29. +4
    23 August 2015 13: 01
    Quote: Алексей_К
    Surely, the future S-500 system, in some form, was present at the tests, because its adoption is planned in 2016.

    Was the theater system for intercepting MRBM warheads and was "present" at intercepting an ICBM warhead? Original ...

    Quote: cergey51046
    It's time to throw thermonuclear teratonic.

    Do you propose a collective suicide of the planet? Indeed, why trifle with some hundreds of megatons, not to mention gigatons. Immediately on the teratons. And do not care that none of this exists in the world. The main thing is to write.
    Although it would have been possible, before writing, to calculate that such a teraton bomb, only 1 teraton bomb, is 20 thousand times more powerful than the Tsar Bomba. And what always touches me in such writings is that the writers are not blown away at all, and what will happen if such a person arrives in the return line
    1. +1
      23 August 2015 13: 50
      Quote: Old26
      and what will happen if such a return flies



      Well, here you don’t have to wait for any return ... This is the old Earth, clutching her head, will explode somewhere deep into the Galaxy ...

      PS Well, you have jokes, boatswain ... A torpedo then swam past ...

      It’s somehow like in a joke, only it will become sickening to everyone ...
    2. 0
      23 August 2015 16: 45
      Quote: Old26
      Was the theater system for intercepting MRBM warheads and was "present" at intercepting an ICBM warhead? Original ...

      Respected! I honestly did not understand your phrase and your sarcasm. And what is a theater system? I know this abbreviation as the Theater of War. I understand that brevity is the sister of talent, but not so much that nothing was clear. Write a little bit for more details.
      1. +2
        23 August 2015 18: 58
        Quote: Алексей_К
        Write a little bit for more details.

        Alexey, I am translating into Russian the "short course" of Old 26.
        1.
        Was the theater system for intercepting MRBM warheads and was "present" at intercepting an ICBM warhead? Original ...

        The S-500 did not intercept the ICBM warhead, because Poplar went according to the parameters of the MRBM, not the ICBM. Difference: apogee and BB speed. Therefore, the theater missile defense / air defense system (S-500) worked on a maneuvering warhead as in the protection of the objects of the central theater of operations. I believe that because of the ideology embedded in it (hitting an object with rods when detonating a missile warhead), it is more effective than the Yankee SM-6, which needs to be hit "bullet to bullet" in order to hit the maneuvering BB with an accurate kinetic blow. The reason: the affected areas are incommensurable - a point "injection" and "a field of damaging elements". Therefore, our fundamentally do not follow the amerovskoy way. By the same principle, we have made an active protection system for the OS.
        Best regards, hi
  30. +1
    23 August 2015 13: 08
    1. ICBM "Topol" successfully hit a conditional target at the "Sary-Shagan"
    2. It is reported that the warhead of the ICBMs successfully hit the target at the training ground in The Republic of Kazakhstan.
    3. For reference: ICBM "Topol" was put into service in the USSR in 1988. The maximum target destruction range is 10 thousand km.

    And now the question: Why not at a distance of, say, 5000 km "successfully hit"? what
    1. +3
      23 August 2015 13: 34
      Quote: Yarik
      Why not at a distance of, say, 5000 km "successfully hit"?


      Because it’s necessary. For Geyropa, 2500 km is enough.
  31. +3
    23 August 2015 13: 16
    Quote: Алексей_К
    I don’t want to put you a minus either, because we affirm the same thing.

    You can put a minus, I usually do not take offense at this, but if you write, write the way you should write. There would be no complaints if you wrote that the Israeli missile defense system is not capable of intercepting Russian ICBMs. Nobody denies it. But you wrote that the Hetz system is a fiction.
    Fiction - this means fiction, verbal illusion in Russian.
    That is, if Israel didn’t have a missile defense system at all, and they said that they have it, it’s a fiction. And they have it and is intended for defense against a certain class of missiles. So we are talking about not the same thing (at least in your first post). Now you are corrected and you no longer claim that Israel’s missile defense system fiction
    1. +1
      23 August 2015 18: 47
      Fiction - this means fiction in Russian, verbal illusion.

      Maybe still verbal? Words, however.
  32. +3
    23 August 2015 13: 29
    Quote: Yarik
    1. ICBM "Topol" successfully hit a conditional target at the "Sary-Shagan" range 2. It is reported that the warhead of the ICBM successfully hit the target at the range in the Republic of Kazakhstan. 3. For reference: ICBM "Topol" was put into service in the USSR in 1988 year. The maximum range for hitting a target is 10 thousand km. And now the question is. Why not at a distance of, say, 5000 km "successfully hit"?

    1. Actually, it was not the Topol ICBM that hit the target on Sary-Shagan
    2. And where else to be Sary-Shagan, if not in the Republic of Kazakhstan
    3. For reference. The target did not hit the Topol ICBM (just like on the intro of the article there is a photo of the Topol not launch from Kapyar, but the launch from Plesetsk of the Topol-M ICBM (as an option - possibly the Yars)

    Answer question: Why hit at a distance of 5000 km? Do you propose to throw it into the "white light" or is there money to build a new landfill in the Indigirka basin?
    Shooting at a distance of 2000 km is carried out along the so-called "internal route", which is inaccessible to American means of control ...
  33. +6
    23 August 2015 13: 32
    He served in 88-90m. It was then that we received Poplar. And as the voices sounded about the capital and speedy rearmament, I argued that it was too early to write off Poplar. Still flying. So I received confirmation of my words. Compared to "those times", the electronics and control systems were simply minimized. and it became possible to cram the warhead control into the combat load without loss. And at the expense of "why only 2100 km", they did not shoot at range, but at maneuverability and controllability with testing of detection by active and experienced missile defense elements.
  34. +1
    23 August 2015 13: 33
    Quote: veksha50
    If we were to return the old days - the end of the 80s ... Then we were far ahead in breaking through missile defense, and the vaunted Amersky space umbrella was full of holes ...

    It is possible to clarify what developments in the ABM breakthrough we were far ahead of and what does "the vaunted American space umbrella" mean?
    1. -2
      23 August 2015 13: 55
      Quote: Old26
      which means "vaunted American space umbrella"


      This means placing satellites in orbits (battle stations) to shoot down warheads even in space using a laser beam, an electromagnetic pulse, etc.

      But Russian savvy at a height, for example:
      1. Covering warheads (mirror surface), the laser beam simply scatters.
      2. Launching false targets in the areas where combat stations are located (several buckets of bolts and nuts), let them shoot at bolts.
      On the second point, a joke of course, but somewhere close to the truth.
      In Russian, it’s simple and tasteful. They don’t understand this ... WELL DUY THEM !!! wassat
      1. +2
        23 August 2015 19: 26
        Quote: SOKOL777
        This means placing satellites in orbits (battle stations) to shoot down warheads even in space using a laser beam, an electromagnetic pulse, etc.

        Namesake! Do you really believe what you wrote?
        Maybe I slept for something, but the "Death Star" was never built by ama, unlike our * Almaz *. And about the mirror BBs, you also famously bent ...
        Where did the firewood come from? Really sci-fi Amov comics, looking at night, seen enough?
        And * bolts with nuts * have never been used as targets, but with accuracy * vice versa *.
        So
        "if you want to have a reputation as an intelligent person, spend your stupidity more economically"! (c)
  35. +4
    23 August 2015 13: 46
    Quote: NDR-791
    He served in 88-90m. It was then that we received Poplar. And as the voices sounded about the capital and speedy rearmament, I argued that it was too early to write off Poplar. Still flying. So I received confirmation of my words. Compared to "those times", the electronics and control systems were simply minimized. and it became possible to cram the warhead control into the combat load without loss. And at the expense of "why only 2100km", they did not shoot at range, but at maneuverability and controllability.

    Actually, the voices sounded pretty correct. The fact is that the "poplar" was a palliative for the Temp-2S complex, which was being removed from service at that time. It was a direct violation of the SALT-2 treaty, but the Americans could not prove it, and we, as always, "fogged up" by issuing another once a new system for upgrading the old one. Therefore, both in the treaties and in the open names, the designation of the old rocket appears with the additional letter "M". The designation was almost the same as that of the 8K98P rocket.

    Index GRAU 8K98P - RS-12 - RT-2P (western SS-13)
    GRAU index - 15Ж58. Name - "Topol" - RS-12M - RT-2PM.
    But conversations on rearmament could have taken place, since it was planned to put into service the Universal complex, which was supposed to be with separable blocks and in two basing options - mine and ground-mobile

    Quote: NDR-791
    And at the expense of "why only 2100 km", they did not shoot at range, but at maneuverability and controllability.

    They didn’t shoot at 2100 for maneuverability-controllability, but to ensure that the enemy could not remove the parameters of the new combat equipment. And was there maneuvering-controllability - the tenth thing
    1. -3
      23 August 2015 17: 12
      Quote: Old26
      They didn’t shoot at 2100 for maneuverability-controllability, but to ensure that the enemy could not remove the parameters of the new combat equipment. And was there maneuvering-controllability - the tenth thing

      I have a feeling that you attended these tests as the chief designer. For some reason, you know everything and tell everyone the true state of affairs in missile weapons. Although I have doubts that you are "in business." How do you know about the state of Israel's missile defense (I, for example, only know about this from the Internet) if you live in Russia? And if official information is available to you, why do you distribute it so freely? For example, I know for sure that all launches of ballistic missiles between the United States and Russia are negotiated. And everything that flies to a foreign country (Kazakhstan) is probably easily controlled by the American special services on its territory and perhaps not even legally, i.e. Kazakhs may not even know what is happening on their endless semi-deserts.
      1. +1
        23 August 2015 19: 40
        Quote: Алексей_К
        For example, I know for sure that all ballistic missile launches between the US and Russia are negotiated.

        Not all. But only those that can be taken as a threat to the territory (goals) of the USA / RF. And as a rule, they close the ocean area for a certain time for sailing ships, where the flooding of MS is expected. There, as a rule, all RZKs (scouts) gather with their equipment ... And then the internal route is short, so the ISIS flew by - and shoot for health. The national anti-missile defense system will not see anything from its territory. And no one needs to be warned. By the way, the Amy did the same when they conducted an ACS to intercept SLBMs launched through Israeli territory.
        1. 0
          24 August 2015 22: 52
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Not all. But only those that can be taken as a threat to the territory (goals) of the USA / RF. And as a rule, they close the ocean area for a certain time for sailing ships, where the flooding of MS is expected. There, as a rule, all RZKs (scouts) with their equipment gather ... And then the internal route,

          I can’t argue, because apparently I don’t know all the intricacies of international agreements. I disagree with only one thing - Kazakhstan is not an internal route, which means that the secrecy of information may not be ensured, and American intelligence agencies on deserted semi-deserts may well control the passage of our rocket.
  36. 0
    23 August 2015 14: 00
    Despite the fact that we don’t know what actually happened, it’s still GOOD!
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  38. +2
    23 August 2015 14: 29
    Quote: SOKOL777
    This means placing satellites in orbits (battle stations) to shoot down warheads even in space using a laser beam, an electromagnetic pulse, etc.

    That is, a non-existent system is taken, which was shown to us and to them exclusively in the form of animation, and on the basis of these "fairy tales" it is concluded that it is full of holes ... It is very logical. So a laser beam in space is "bullshit" must be understood. And what about the "Excalibur", that its performance characteristics surpassed those planned during the test? You have to understand that not only the Americans, but also the Russians are stupid, because both the Skif and Stiletto were supposed to be laser, be in orbit and create a "leaky space umbrella", only this time Russian?

    Quote: SOKOL777
    But Russian ingenuity is at a height, for example: 1. Covering warheads (mirror surface), the laser beam simply scatters.

    Yeah. Sifted. And at what height will these mirrored warheads burn out in the atmosphere?

    Quote: SOKOL777
    2. Launching false targets (several buckets of bolts and nuts) into the areas where the battle stations are located, let them shoot at the bolts. The second point is a joke, of course, but somewhere close to the truth. In Russian, it’s simple and tasteful. They don’t understand this ... WELL DUY THEM !!!

    I hear this joke about buckets about the same as Zadornov's phrase. I can say one thing, that I came up with a "joke" about buckets with nuts, how to call it softer, so as not to call him something like a beater ... In general, he is a stupid and narrow-minded person who does not understand the whole mechanism of flight at all ... with him. Those who wish to dream of buckets of nuts - let them dream
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  40. -1
    23 August 2015 14: 37
    In general, such messages are encouraging!
    Any test we have is one more step forward. Protecting the state comes first!
    A thought flashed through my mind. The message indicated "Poplar." But was it "Poplar"?

    Once upon a time, in the GSVG, I was at a training camp at one of the air bases. There was a MiG-23 fighter regiment based there.
    Our curator (regiment officer) led us to the hangar with a fighter on combat duty, with suspensions and other gadgets. Everything is connected, it’s warm ...
    And in the meantime, he says "this is our new plane" ...
    Naturally the question is: what does the new, ordinary MiG-23 mean ... It is no different from the rest ...
    And he- "this body is no different, but the whole inside is a new plane ... We will not comment, I told you so much ...".
    So the assumptions of members of the forum regarding the filling of "Topol" are not devoid of sense.
    Who wrote about their imminent "resignation", I think they are mistaken. Powder carriers can be stored for a very long time.
    Good luck to the rocket men !!! Glory to Russia! good
  41. +1
    23 August 2015 14: 39
    Quote: Moore
    Nothing clear is visible there - the "head" is clearly different, the rest is overexposed. They started up from the old "Krona" (you can count the elements long) - hence the chassis - 7917. As an option - it is planned to somehow usefully use the removed from duty "Topol" - why not in the RSD version described above?

    And nothing is needed to be seen. It is this head that distinguishes this experimental Topol-E missile from the standard Topol (ICBM)

    And the RSD option is only due to the fact that the tests need to be carried out along the internal route so that the enemy could not take the parameters of the blocks upon a fall (as on the Kura). Just because of this, and due to the fact that there is simply no other training ground ... And not because ours are experiencing an unknown, top-secret BRDS
  42. +2
    23 August 2015 14: 45
    Quote: SOKOL777
    So, the assumptions of members of the forum regarding the filling of "Poplar" are not without meaning. Who wrote about their imminent "resignation", I think they are mistaken. Powder carriers can be stored for a very long time.

    "Powder" is stored even less than liquid. We have not yet reached values ​​comparable to the American ones. And I will repeat myself. This is not a Topol combat missile. This is an experimental Topol-E missile designed for testing and having a number of systems capable of imparting speeds to the tested warheads comparable to those of ICBM warheads even when fired at such a range.
  43. +1
    23 August 2015 14: 49
    PAPA machine does not know the misfires. I am glad that I live in this country.
  44. +2
    23 August 2015 14: 50
    Quote: SOKOL777
    Our curator (regiment officer) brought us to a hangar with a fighter on alert, with suspensions and other gadgets. Everything is connected, the warm one is standing ... And in the meantime, he says "this is our new plane" ... Naturally the question . which means a new, ordinary MiG-23 ... Nothing different from the others ... And he- "this body is no different, but the whole inside is a new aircraft ... We will not comment, I told you so much. .. ".

    The bike, which one way or another in various branches and types of troops was present at the training camp. Only in another case was a tank, a boat, a rocket in the place of the plane.
  45. +2
    23 August 2015 15: 05
    Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
    PAPA machine does not know the misfires. I am glad that I live in this country.

    there were misfires, but fortunately not so much. Of the 114 test and combat training launches, 4 were unsuccessful, that is, 3,5%. A few more in doubt, but still quite reliable system
  46. 0
    23 August 2015 15: 07
    I heard that poplars are vulnerable to Europro and that the future lies with the yars ... Or did the yars not mature to hit the target?)))
    1. 0
      23 August 2015 16: 28
      In the future, there will be no armaments in the arsenal, but there will be Sarma, t YRS, YRS M, RS 26, Liner, Bulava ICBMs - may return to the Bark ICBM developments.
  47. +1
    23 August 2015 16: 34
    Quote: gelezo47
    We are peaceful people, but our armored train stands on a siding ...
    Hello to the mattresses! ...

    Yes, if the railway complexes were not allowed under the cutter hi
  48. +1
    23 August 2015 16: 44
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    Quote: Alexkorzun
    Older marazmatik goes to the individual. Ugly. I would have dragged.
    thank God that it was not "YaPvdul" .....

    ALREADY made it long ago in Vietnam !! The old man still cannot come to himself. And after the joys of captivity he climbs everywhere !! HAPPY for the Russian Army !!.
  49. 0
    23 August 2015 17: 23
    This is another concern for the ideal.
  50. +5
    23 August 2015 17: 35
    Start-up of "Topol" was carried out 300 km to the State Border with a used one. As a result, a point hit for 2100 versts (in the other direction for now). "He who has eyes, let him see; he who has ears, let him hear." (from). If we turn the route by 180 degrees, it turns out .... it turns out that the EU can get the most tomatoes stuck. Problems with the EU and without it, sip, do not disentangle! Should they also have for the perverted fantasies of the transatlantic instigator of people? Probably not. There will be no talk about the "navel of Europe" in the form of Banderonazis. In England, Poles are not considered people, and their historical slaves are not even considered animals. So, the mold is harmful, not worthy to clean the toilet! Everyone wants to live well in peace. And Europe will not risk well-being because of the Maydanuts! Stopudovo!
  51. +1
    23 August 2015 18: 16
    Quote: pvv113
    The Topol ICBM was put into service in the USSR in 1988. Maximum target destruction range - 10 thousand km

    Landscape design, USA will not hurt!
  52. +2
    23 August 2015 19: 08
    Quote: Алексей_К
    I have a feeling that you were present at these tests as the chief designer. For some reason, you know everything and tell everyone the true state of affairs in missile weapons. Although I have doubts that you are “in business.”

    Your feelings, dear Alexey, can be anything. You can even imagine that I am in the rank of Chief Designer, or Chief Spy. This doesn't change things. At least I don’t write jingoistic posts, and that’s the main thing.

    Quote: Алексей_К
    How do you know about the state of Israel's missile defense system (for example, I only know about this from the Internet) if you live in Russia?

    I live in Russia, in Russia. Just because of the nature of my work, I tracked many things a certain time ago. So it's all together here. KNOWLEDGE,, analytics (not Internet, but if you want your own, based on open information) plus a certain amount of information from the Internet, for that matter. And I never make such categorical statements as you did, that Israel's missile defense system is a fiction. Maybe not the best, but not fiction

    Quote: Алексей_К
    And if proprietary information is available to you, then why do you distribute it so freely?

    What do you consider proprietary information? Open data from the end of last year? And do you consider them to be graded? Don't worry. Having in due time f-1 I'm clear enough "Hacked it on my nose"what can be said and what cannot be said. So what I am saying here does not contain any military or state secrets. Although for many this may be a revelation...
    It’s just that many things can be obtained analytically (if you knew how many), but for many it seems that this is something top-secret.... Calm down, I’m not revealing any state secrets here. Everything else - sorry, it's analytics plus knowledge

    Quote: Алексей_К
    For example, I know for sure that all ballistic missile launches between the US and Russia are negotiated.

    Information about this launch was published in November 2014. It just didn’t take place then

    Quote: Алексей_К
    And everything that flies to a foreign country (Kazakhstan) is probably easily controlled by American intelligence services on its territory and perhaps not even legally, i.e. Kazakhs may not even know what is happening in their endless semi-deserts.

    It is precisely because the combat fields of the Sary-Shagan test site are not controlled by the Americans that missiles with new combat equipment are launched there.
  53. +1
    23 August 2015 19: 08
    Quote: tyzyaga
    I heard that poplars are vulnerable to Europro and that the future lies with the yars ... Or did the yars not mature to hit the target?)))

    Everything can be vulnerable. But the vulnerability of our ICBMs to European missile defense is an outright mess, which our politicians (as well as Western ones) very often use for their needs. For the next at least 5 years, European missile defense will not be able to even theoretically pose a threat to Russian ICBMs, if only because the energy of the interceptor missile does not allow and its speed data does not allow intercepting Russian ICBM warheads

    Quote: Vadim237
    In the future, there will be no armaments in the arsenal, but there will be Sarma, t YRS, YRS M, RS 26, Liner, Bulava ICBMs - may return to the Bark ICBM developments.

    Yars, Liner and Bulava are already in service. Avangard (aka Rubezh, aka
    Yars-M, aka RS-26) is said to be put into service this year.
    Sarmat is a prospect. They will never return to Bark. This is a closed page of the book.
  54. 0
    23 August 2015 19: 17
    You can downvote me, but I understand what the achievement is. !985 - training shooting from the 4th site of KapYar. God forbid we miss, we end up in China. People, well, there is no need to disrespect the achievements of your country. NOBODY, NOBODY, you understand, can compare with Russia's RV. And don’t tell me about Russia’s technical backwardness. She simply doesn't exist.
  55. 0
    23 August 2015 19: 44
    Well done, keep it up Strategic Missile Forces. TROOPS ARE CONSTANTLY COMBAT READY. AFTER US - SILENCE AND LET EVERYONE REMEMBER THIS.
  56. -2
    23 August 2015 21: 18
    When will the target be in Fashington? They’re running into trouble, mattresses...
  57. +2
    23 August 2015 21: 24
    Quote: Ugra
    When will the target be in Fashington? They're running into trouble, mattresses...

    Why do they suddenly run into trouble? Probably write exclusively for yourself, since it is extremely difficult for others to understand your statements
  58. 0
    24 August 2015 01: 29
    Quote: gryaznov.igor.
    When the poplars are removed, we will already have rockets by characteristics such that the monkey Aegis will rest on the sidelines, because they themselves can’t come up with anything, look at all their scientists, GLORY OF OUR ARMY AND NAVY AND OUR SCIENTISTS.

    So that’s why their helicopters and missiles are not much worse and they can’t achieve missile defense. Ours are still designing feel
  59. 0
    25 August 2015 15: 59
    "...an ICBM warhead successfully hit a target at a training ground in the Republic of Kazakhstan."

    I wonder why the undead are still silent that Russia “continues to bombard” the territory of independent Kazakhstan with nuclear weapons?