Unfulfilled dream of the Soviet Union

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American writer Elbert Green Hobbard said that two things were necessary for success: a clear plan and limited time. In the case of the USSR, apparently, the plan was, but far from all and not always clear, and the time is too limited. As a result, it was not possible to build not only a superpower, but also its majestic monument, comparable in scale to the Tower of Babel, - the Palace of Soviets in Moscow.


Palace of Soviets in Moscow: the project.

Who knows, maybe the whole story would our country go the other way if this building were completed and functioned to this day? What could be this building, obliged to emphasize the scale and grandeur of the achievements of the Soviet Union, and the important role of the management administration of the USSR? Let us, for a short time, plunge into the world of ideas, where it quietly exists along with the lost wonders of the world, not built ships and monuments; with heroes of novels and fantastic worlds; with unconfirmed theories ... Just imagine what this fantastic Palace of Soviets could be.

Let's start with the fact that the building was designed in such a way that various departments (such as the State Archives and the Presidium of the Supreme Council) could simultaneously work there. The first step towards the development of the idea of ​​such a construction was the competition of projects in 31. It came 270 applications from creative teams, and personal applications and even more: 160 works of professional architects, 100 civilian works. In addition, 24 applications came from foreigners. Such a magnitude was this event. However, the winners were determined only at the end of the second stage of the competition, in the 33 year.

The project was taken by Iofan B.M. (however, it is easy to guess how much the idea of ​​the architect was changed), and Gelfreich V. and Shchuko V. should have helped him. But they, of course, were far from the only ones whose ideas influenced this project.

The idea of ​​decorating the roof with a statue of Lenin, for example, belonged to the Italian A. Brasini. As a result, the concept of the palace, created by Iofan, completely turned upside down: a huge statue began to look central to this plan. As if not a sculpture decorates a palace, but a palace is only a pedestal for it. Later, the architect Le Corbusier appealed to Stalin with a request to abandon the construction of the palace according to such a plan, justifying this by saying that such a building is a "declining spirit", "an absurd thing." But the leader, of course, did not deviate from the intended plan.

Despite the fact that 42 was appointed the graduation year, the work could not start earlier than the 31 year. There was simply no suitable place for such a huge building. But in 31, when the Cathedral of Christ the Savior was blown up, there was an empty seat. It was then that, after clearing the site of the explosion, and began digging a huge pit.

The construction of the palace itself is worth a closer look. Many of the existing buildings would envy such a plan. This palace was not just a large building with a pompous design, it could become the cultural and administrative center of all of Moscow! It is worth noting that such an idea was very risky in terms of security. Who puts all the eggs in one basket?

The land also did not help in the construction of the palace, namely, its whimsical mixed composition at the construction site and groundwater such that they were able to destroy concrete over time. So the requirements for the technical project were very high. To combat the influence of groundwater decided using bituminization. This process consists in drilling around the future foundation of a multitude of wells through which bitumen is pumped into limestone at high temperatures up to two hundred degrees under high pressure. Thus, the water blocked access to the foundation.

The foundation had to withstand a load of over 500 thousand tons. Strength was achieved due to the large depth. Thus, most of the load was transferred to the ground. The foundation was composed of two concrete rings with a diameter of 140 and 160 meters, a height of 20,5 and a thickness of 3,5 meters, and the foundation of the central part of the building alone required 100 thousand cubic meters of concrete. In total, two thousand foundations with a total volume of 250 thousand cubic meters of concrete had to be built for a common basement floor!

Unfulfilled dream of the Soviet Union

Concreting the foundation.

The metal frame of the building was also not easy to manufacture, because it was necessary to inscribe in it the dome of a large hall, 130 meters in diameter and 100,6 meters in height. A support for this huge dome were to be 64 columns, evenly distributed in diameter in pairs. Naturally, the metal frame had to pass through them. I suppose it was not easy to build something similar on a reduced scale, but on a scale of one to one it was fantastic at all. After all, the weight of the metal frame of the Palace of Soviets on the project was supposed to be approximately 200 thousand tons! One hundred thousand tons of this frame should have been made of special steel, which was even given a special name - “Steel of the Palace of Soviets”. VTS came out at 15% more expensive than an equal amount of ordinary construction steel, but it was much stronger and less resistant to corrosion, which was undoubtedly worth it.


The design of the Palace of the Soviets.

The skeleton of the palace came out four times heavier than the skeleton of the Empire State Building. What the newspapers soon wrote about, wanting to be everywhere. Due to the complexity and magnitude of the design, it would have to be assembled into four approaches, not counting intermediate checks. The walls of the palace had to be assembled from hollow ceramic blocks due to the fact that they weighed much less than the same brick and at the same time had a positive effect on noise and heat insulation. The thickness of the walls everywhere was to be the same - 0,3 meter.

In the building of the Palace of Soviets they were going to accommodate: the State Archives, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, the museum of world art, the library, the halls of both Chambers of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, the halls of the Civil War and the Building of Socialism. Near the palace there had to be a parking with a capacity of five thousand cars, so the appearance of the city would have to be significantly changed.

The grand hall of the palace was supposed to look like an amphitheater with a circular arena on 20 thousands of seats. Area - 12 thousand square meters. meters, and the volume - 970 thousand cubic meters. Consequently, its volume should have been about the same as that of all the auditoriums, theaters and cinema of Moscow (of that time, of course) combined.

According to the project in the Great Hall were designated places for the press, diplomats, the presidium and specially invited guests. A round arena during meetings, round tables and other important events, if necessary, could be taken as a partner, and during entertainment performances (circus or theater) or during sports performances, it should have been freed from the chairs. For convenience, the ground floor could be easily lowered into the hold specially provided under it. In addition, there were planned antentals, smoking rooms, lobbies. We can say that everything was calculated down to the smallest detail.

The area of ​​the Small Hall according to the plan was approximately equal to 3500 square. meters and had at the same time to accommodate more than five thousand people. Thus, this hall could become for those times the largest theatrical platform in the whole of Europe. The area of ​​the Small Hall is more than a thousand square meters. meters Next to this hall it was planned to place four audiences, with a total capacity of 1400 seats, and yes even a library with reading rooms and classrooms. Here, in fact, the Palace!

Without powerful ventilation in a building where so many people were supposed to fit, it would be impossible to breathe, so it was designed on average for 1000 performance in thousands of cubic meters of air per hour. Under the dome, all the heated and polluted air had to be collected, from where it should be drawn out by powerful fans. The designers also took a close look at the air conditioning system: the regulation of temperature and humidity should have been flawless.

On the ground floor it was supposed to arrange technical premises: on the regulation of heating, ventilation, water supply and electrical supply, as well as medical services and the like. The holds of the arena halls were also located here.

However, the designers paid special attention to the aspect of movement inside the palace, because there could be up to 30 thousands of people in it, and it was important to eliminate the crowding on the stairs, panic and accidents during emergencies. In addition, the volume of the building is enormous, and with a shortage of elevators and transitions to get to the right place, people would have to make a big detour. So, not counting the lifts for technical and household needs, inside the building were to install 62 escalators and 99 elevators. So, according to the planners' calculations, the evacuation of the filled palace could have been accomplished in 10 minutes.

The exterior decoration of the Palace of Soviets, meanwhile, was planned in accordance with the idea of ​​a “Palace - a pedestal for the monument to Lenin”. The metal that was supposed to be used in the decoration of the facade was also supposed to be used in sculpting the statue, thanks to which the Palace of Soviets and the sculpture on it would be perceived holistically and indivisibly, even though the statue looks somewhat alien. According to the plan, the height of the statue of Lenin reached 100 meters, so for the history of architecture a palace with such a “roof” would be simply unique.

The total height of the Palace of Soviets, from ground level to its highest point on the head of the statue of VI. Lenin (who, by the way, was entrusted to Merkulov), according to the plan, was 420 meters. And this is 13 meters above the Empire State Building, the tallest building of those years!

It seemed that nothing was impossible for the USSR. Indeed, in the 1937 year, when the construction of this monumental building began, everything was subordinated to the iron hand of the authorities. Before the war, they even managed to build it up to the height of the tenth floor of a residential building. However, due to the costs associated with the beginning of the Second World War, construction was canceled, and all the metal trim and frame of the building had to be dismantled and given away as materials for the construction of strategically important bridges. After the war, the building was gathered to finish building, but then the race for the creation of the atomic bomb began, then Stalin died, then ...
So the project remained only on paper, in memories and humorous references in films. Later, the Palace of Soviets was often criticized for its disproportion with other historical buildings of Moscow, incompatibility with the surrounding urban architecture, for “super-monumentality of forms” ... Yes, the palace’s exterior design was discouraging, but it could still become a monument to its era embodying its mores and scope.


Pool on the site of the Palace of the Soviets.

The foundation of the palace was soon modified to an outdoor pool, which worked for many years, delighting Muscovites. And later, in its place, they nevertheless restored the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. Yes, the temple on the urban landscape looks much more familiar, and it's hard to argue with that.

Well, what would have happened if the Palace of Soviets had been built after all? Most likely, the USSR collapsed even earlier because of the exorbitant costs of maintaining this fancy building. But you must admit, it would be curious to visit him, even after the fall of socialism, because without a doubt it would have been made accessible for excursions in any case. It seems to me that the Palace of Soviets could attract so many tourists that it would eventually work out the costs of its construction. Let it now soar only in the world of ideas, together with an ideal society, maybe in today's Russia someday, looking back at the past, will be able to create something equally grandiose, but more viable.
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  1. -4
    4 September 2015 06: 59
    The construction of the pompous palace on the ruins of the destroyed temple failed - very symbolic. hi
    1. +29
      4 September 2015 07: 26
      As a result, it was not possible to build not only a superpower, but also its majestic monument,

      And the superpower was just built. Yes, what good
      1. -5
        4 September 2015 10: 43
        Quote: qwert
        And the superpower was just built. Yes, what

        Let me ask, where is she? And the temple was restored! hi
        1. dmb
          +4
          4 September 2015 11: 43
          So it can happen with a superpower based on the same principles. Or rather, it will definitely happen. But the restoration of the temple is very doubtful, especially if we consider the motivation of the "leaders" who made this decision and the playful hands of Tsereteli. It is, of course, all sorts of Greeks who did not begin to restore the Parthenon or the Colossus of Rhodes are not a decree for us, but with the same success we can enthusiastically demolish half of the buildings in the Kremlin, because in their place were monasteries and cathedrals demolished by Matushka Catherine, Father Alexander and other priests, too ...
          1. 0
            6 September 2015 12: 41
            Quote: dmb
            for in their place were monasteries and cathedrals, demolished by mother Catherine, father Alexander


            You can’t not know like that its the history of the Kremlin Miracles and Ascension Monasteries demolished advice in the 20's ...
        2. +1
          5 September 2015 06: 56
          Quote: Bayonet
          And the temple was restored!

          Looks like someone doesn’t believe? It is located at: Moscow, Volkhonka street, building number 15.
      2. +5
        4 September 2015 13: 23
        Most likely, the USSR collapsed even earlier due to the exorbitant costs of maintaining this bizarre building.

        and even in this article it is necessary to shove the idea that the USSR collapsed due to exorbitant costs, and not because of the betrayal of the elites No.
        1. +2
          4 September 2015 14: 45
          That is, the top again betrayed everything, and the sacrificial people - the lambs for the slaughter? But there were political agitators, propagandists, counter-propagandists, universities of Marxism-Leninism, "round tables" (for the people), TV and newsreels before every movie. And there they talked, talked, said that capitalism is bad, bad, bad ... The elites already had everything - caviar, and dachas, and ZIMs and power. And nevertheless, the elites went to betray, and the people ... did not budge! 18 million members of the CPSU did not go to the barricades, support the Emergency Committee, and decided "it will not get worse." Why?
          1. dmb
            0
            4 September 2015 19: 51
            I believe that these millions firmly believed that even if the siloviki got down to business, they would bring it to the end, and the siloviki were grown up by the system created by Stalin, which did not allow discussions that diverged from the opinion of the omnipotent, although he was a worthless petty man who fell into power by chance, while more powerful contenders fought for it. The lack of discussion within the party about the choice of the path is perhaps the most important vice of this system, which the counter-revolution has used. After all, neither the Communists nor the non-partisans in their mass wanted to abolish socialism, and it was abolished by the EBN only after the execution of the parliament.
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    2. +8
      4 September 2015 13: 01
      And the pool came out great! good
      1. +5
        4 September 2015 13: 37
        Quote: prosto_rgb
        And the pool came out great! good

        I even happened to pass in it the rules of the TRP for swimming when I was studying at a university. Either 100 m for a while, or 200 m just to swim. Since it was the twentieth day of December 1978 and the frosts went off scale for -30, we all chose the option with 200 m.
        The water cooled terribly quickly (warm was constantly supplied from the bottom and from the sides), there was fog above the water and it was really cold. Impressions and memories are unforgettable!
  2. +26
    4 September 2015 07: 14
    Great Country and ideas are the same (but it could be so).
    1. -2
      4 September 2015 12: 49
      Glory to you, Lord, that such horror was not built! Bourges Khalifa somehow stumbled in the middle of a bare desert, and not in the very center of the city with almost a 1000-year history!
      1. +1
        4 September 2015 16: 40
        Too lazy to delve into, but can anyone know the answer to my question .. I’m wondering, what direction did the steel Ilyich have to point his hand to? West, East, South maybe ... I think there are no accidents in such symbolism .
        1. +1
          4 September 2015 19: 04
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          I’m wondering, in which direction of the world should steel Ilyich point his hand? West, East, South maybe ... I think that in such symbolism there are no accidents.

          To the West, naturally! winked
          For metal structures that were widely used in the construction of the foundation, a special high-strength steel of the DS grade was manufactured. True, almost all of these metal structures went first to anti-tank hedgehogs that covered the approaches to Moscow, and then their remains were used to build a bridge across the Kerch Strait after the liberation of Crimea.
          So symbolism can be found in these facts. hi
          1. +2
            4 September 2015 19: 35
            Quote: andj61
            To the West, naturally!
            Honestly, I thought so ... As I already wrote here for a long time --- I really learned to read the headlines of the Pravda newspaper in capital letters, and the magazines Agitator and ZVO became my second universities.
            Quote: andj61
            all these metal structures went first to anti-tank hedgehogs that covered the approaches to Moscow
            Oh, yes, it's nice of course that this is so .. but during my service I traveled and tracked around Istra, Vereya and Naro-Fominsk (in this area) past the monuments depicting the very "hedgehogs". These monuments mark the borders where the Germans were stopped And so, I must confess, these monuments shook me, so my eyes immediately opened to the place where you serve, to comrades in arms, that even somehow it felt good and quiet in my soul. I wrote below that it would be better just these "hedgehogs" and URs were to be done, than to spend time and energy on a peaceful construction. But this is so easy for me to argue from the 21st century, and then (as well as now!) You do not know how you will wake up tomorrow. Under bomb explosions or the song of a nightingale hi
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        2. +3
          5 September 2015 07: 27
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          to which side of the world should steel Ilyich point his hand?

          Being of sound mind and sober memory, none of the Soviet architects planned to place a meeting room in Lenin’s head and make the statue rotate around its axis after the sun. But the statue of Lenin, really had to become the largest statue in the world.
          1. 0
            6 September 2015 12: 47
            Quote: Bayonet
            Being in their right mind and sober memory, none of the Soviet architects planned to place in the head of Lenin the conference room


            Oh what an idea!
        3. 0
          7 September 2015 23: 07
          If I am not mistaken, then the statue-weather vane should have been.
  3. +17
    4 September 2015 07: 38
    Whatever they say, but the era of Socialism was great in ideas, the spirit of discoveries and development of both the country and humanity as a whole. He also annoys that they regard the construction of the Palace of Soviets with irony, and admire Bourge Khalif and the surrounding territory. There is no prophet in his own country. A plus article. An interesting excursion.
    1. +3
      4 September 2015 13: 10
      Quote: emercom1979
      There is no prophet in his own country.

      And in other fatherlands - not a lot.

      And on trips to far
      Forever, irrevocably -
      Fuckers go easy
      Prophets are reluctant.
    2. +5
      4 September 2015 14: 28
      Quote: emercom1979
      the era of Socialism was great in ideas, the spirit of discovery

      People believed in themselves, in their country. Hence the courage of ideas. Still, the necessary for the start of the USSR gave alland that's a lot. Even those who emigrated, yes, they achieved a lot on their own, but on the foundation that they received in the country they left (and really free). One can argue for a long time that the son of a party functionary had better conditions for the start, but the "trick" is that this oligarchy, unlike the financial one, was not a "closed club". And for a career in it it was useful to "start from the ground." Okay, something has suffered.
      On the topic of the article, it's good that they didn't build, but the idea was strong. I also don’t consider the XXS a masterpiece of architecture (it resembles a merchant bucket samovar, abundantly covered with gilding). The same Church of St. Basil, which is more interesting and more in harmony with the appearance of the Kremlin. IMHO Well, yes, "historical value" is a fairly subjective concept.
  4. +3
    4 September 2015 07: 42
    The author forgot or intentionally did not mention that this was only the beginning - it was planned to completely destroy the historical buildings on the site of the Kremlin, and in its place to erect a complex of the palace and associated buildings.
    Here I am only glad that nothing happened.
  5. +1
    4 September 2015 07: 56
    The history of the USSR, well laid out in a children's joke .. Cheburshka gives a speech at the opening of the Friends House .. We built, built and finally built .. Abdul, set fire .. and set fire .. Oh ... did not think that they burn ..
  6. -20
    4 September 2015 08: 09
    This is another fake. The author does not provide links. By the way, such projects would not be hidden from the people.
    1. +6
      4 September 2015 08: 38
      And nobody hid them. There was an open competition, newspapers wrote about him. Yes, and the two erected floors are something ...
    2. +9
      4 September 2015 08: 41
      Far from fake dear. There is a museum in the constructed church in the basement, where they will tell you in detail what they wanted and what they built and what remains. And I was lucky to swim in the pool, in the yard in February, and we developed in the water and a couple!
      1. -8
        4 September 2015 09: 42
        Far from fake dear. There is a museum in the constructed church in the basement, where they will tell you in detail what they wanted and what they built and what remains. And I was lucky to swim in the pool, in the yard in February, and we developed in the water and a couple!


        Then tell me who the author of the project is, the facts are needed, and not respected rattle. And the fact that you visited the pool may be wonderful for someone, but not for me.
        1. +2
          4 September 2015 12: 12
          The project was taken by Iofan B.M. (however, it is easy to guess how much the idea of ​​the architect was changed), and Gelfreich V. and Shchuko V. should help him. This is from the text of the article ...
        2. +3
          4 September 2015 13: 42
          Quote: feniks
          Then tell me who the author of the project is, the facts are needed, and not respected rattle. And the fact that you visited the pool may be wonderful for someone, but not for me.

          Are you completely lazy and have no hands? what
          Type in the search engine "project of the palace of the Soviets Moscow" - and you will get a bunch of links and information. Google to help you, as the well-known Israeli comrade says in VO! hi
        3. +2
          4 September 2015 14: 30
          Quote: feniks
          Then tell me who the author of the project is, the facts are needed, and not dear crackling dear

          Have you read the article at all?
    3. +3
      4 September 2015 09: 29
      Quote: feniks
      This is another fake. The author does not provide links. By the way, such projects would not be hidden from the people.

      No one hid this project in the USSR

      Americans about the Palace of Soviets
  7. +3
    4 September 2015 08: 35
    You can see the built Palace - it sometimes flashes in the frames of the film "Spy" by Fyodor Bondarchuk.
    1. 0
      6 September 2015 11: 37
      Zachotny film - with humor ... wink
  8. +4
    4 September 2015 10: 28
    For me it would be better if they left the pool. I was in that temple, which was built on the site of the destroyed pool — metal detectors at the entrance greatly distorted, the guards around — more than at the airport (which, at one time, did not prevent the dogs from licking around there). The interior decoration was not impressive - before St. Basil the Blessed or the Savior on Blood in St. Petersburg he was like cancer in China. In appearance .... well, the cathedral and the cathedral, the same St. Isaac's Cathedral, again in St. Petersburg, where they look better.
    1. +1
      4 September 2015 12: 17
      Agree that saying "well, pool and pool" is much easier. It’s a pity that I didn’t have time to swim in it. I don’t think that the demolition of the pool instilled in someone more sadness than joy for believers, from the restoration of the Temple. And the fact that they were supposed to build a new pool, preferably the same in area, then yes.
  9. AAV
    +6
    4 September 2015 10: 56
    The article is interesting, thanks to the author.
    I would like to add that according to the project, the statue of Lenin was to rotate after the sun, pointing to it with his hand.

    By the way, this idea was successfully implemented in Ashgabat during the construction of the Neutrality Monument. The scale there is smaller (about 4 times if you take in height), but the statue of Turkmenbashi clearly follows the sun ...
  10. +4
    4 September 2015 11: 38
    I have always been interested in the logical paradox - what was the fundamental difference between the "communists" who demolished temples and built swimming pools instead of "democrats who demolish pools for building temples?
    It’s impossible to just build without destroying ...
    1. +1
      4 September 2015 11: 51
      The difference is that the temple was blown up, and the pool was filled up. hi
      1. +1
        4 September 2015 13: 23
        Quote: Bayonet
        The difference is that the temple was blown up, and the pool was filled up.

        good
        And there is.
    2. 0
      4 September 2015 12: 52
      And they "just build" and restore what was destroyed.
  11. +2
    4 September 2015 11: 54
    And what new ideas? Delayed for several thousand years, the idea of ​​the Tower of Babel has already proved its futility, as well as the Great Wall of China. And surpass the Egyptian pyramids do not work.
    1. +3
      4 September 2015 13: 19
      Quote: Mother Teresa
      And surpass the Egyptian pyramids do not work.

      But the Egyptians are now not being clever about the topic: "Whether the pyramids were needed or not" ... There was an era.
      So it is with the construction of this palace. If circumstances had arisen, it would have been built and, believe me, now the tostosums would have fought for the opportunity to rent an N number of square meters in it. But ... It didn't work out to build. The war broke out and everything that could be from its structural elements was put into defense and armament. No ambition. Everything for the front and for victory. Peter I also melted the bells for cannons. But no one considers him a tyrant. And the foundation was "modified" into an outdoor pool. And who knows what Muscovites prefer - a pool or a temple? It's still better than splashing around in fountains. And the Cathedral of Christ the Savior, which was destroyed under Stalin, also has a dark past. Therefore, do not judge the past, you did not live in that time.
      1. +3
        4 September 2015 17: 10
        Quote: Mother Teresa
        And surpass the Egyptian pyramids do not work
        Against the background of the news of the demolition of the Bel-I’s temple in Palmyra, the thought struck me that get IS to the state of Egypt and ..... belay belay belay BUT I hope that not everything is so bad and “the truth is always the same (s).” And it is such that everything in the world is afraid of time, but time is afraid of the pyramids
        1. +2
          4 September 2015 18: 07
          Arabs have done similar things before. The entire lining was removed from the pyramids, shots were fired at the sphinx from cannons.
          1. +4
            4 September 2015 18: 51
            Quote: Mother Teresa
            Sphinx shot from cannons.
            And they sang "Internationale" laughing By the way, the text is the original, anarchist Eugene Potier, it is very unambiguous, through the prism of history if you know that it has become a hymn to the communist movement. I really like the German version, no matter what, but a very musical language. 1.
            Get up cursed branded
            Hungry, oppressed people!
            Our mind is a hot crater
            Lava flows will flood the world.
            Knocking past shackles
            Slaves will rise and then
            The world will be changed at the core:
            Now nothing - we will become everything!
            The time of battle has come
            We all rally to battle.
            In the International
            The human race will merge!
            2.
            No one will give us deliverance:
            Neither god, nor king, nor hero.
            We will achieve liberation
            With his own hand.
            So that the thief returns to us everything that he took,
            So that the spirit of the prison is gone forever
            We will forge iron with heat,
            While the metal is still hot.
            3.
            Power is oppressive, the law is just a mask,
            Taxes stifle unbearable.
            No one rich pointer
            And you will not find rights among the poor.
            Pretty state right,
            Hear the Equality Testament:
            From now on, we have only the right,
            Equals have no laws!
            4.
            We reached the limit in self-interest
            Monarchs of coal, rail and ore.
            Their disgusting affair -
            Only oppress and rob Labor.
            We create all the capital
            That in the safes of scoundrels lie.
            Forward! Now it's time
            Demand back!
            5.
            Enough to give us a dope!
            Goodbye military drill!
            To the peoples - peace, war - to tyrants!
            Strike, soldier, time to go.
            When will the cannibals be ordered
            We all heroically kill -
            Then according to our generals
            Fly your own bullets!
            6.
            Workers, peasants, will
            Great Army of Labor.
            Earth is given for happiness to people
            Drive the drones away forever!
            Having drunk blood to the dump,
            The vulture is drunk, and the raven is full.
            Let’s get them gone
            Once again, the sun will shine on the world! (1871 ...)
      2. +2
        4 September 2015 18: 50
        1. Today's inhabitants of Egypt have an indirect relationship with those Egyptians who built the pyramids.
        2. 5-6 thousand years have passed and the pyramids began to be profitable.
        3. Samaras the pharaohs could afford not such projects.
        4. This building fell on a budget of exorbitant burden. Maintenance and maintenance of such a complex is very expensive. Stadiums ate ate make ends meet. Concerts are more convenient to arrange on Red Square. And you say moneybags.
        6. These funds and forces had to be initially thrown to the development of the economy.
        The past is necessary in order to draw the right conclusions, whoever doesn’t make them demolishes temples, takes to build palaces, receives pools and builds temples again.
        1. +3
          4 September 2015 20: 14
          Quote: Kombitor
          And the Cathedral of Christ the Savior, which was destroyed under Stalin, also has a dark past.
          Dear Combo, all my knowledge about the first temple is limited to the information that it was built on public donations. Enlighten the dark corners of this story, please.
          Quote: Kombitor
          It's better than splashing around in fountains.
          And there’s no difference. That body is fun to splash around in the pool, that to fly into the font of the temple under the arch itself. The soul and body are one, left and right, there would be no sky without earth. Everlasting Truth, True Truth it is one and only one. It’s on top of the highest mountain. And there’s no one to blame for the white and red crawling to its great radiance from different sides of this main mountain. And we are all fighting on the forum ... all the Russians are chopped in bumps. Of course, we can say that external actions are pushing us to such actions, but let's wish each other to remain always yes real people. Red, white ... Russian !!! And it will become a little easier to ascend
  12. AAV
    +4
    4 September 2015 12: 52
    Monument of Neutrality in Ashgabat.
  13. +1
    4 September 2015 13: 03
    As a result, it was not possible to build not only a superpower,
    And the task of building a superpower did not stand!
  14. +2
    4 September 2015 13: 55
    Would rebuilding the Palace of Soviets ruin the Union? Daria, how old are you? Your ideas about the Union are clearly gleaned from liberal textbooks of the 90s. By the way, at the international exhibition in Paris before the war, the paddlers placed the pavilions of the Union and Nazi Germany against each other. Our Palace of Soviets argued with the Hall of the People. They did not dare to give leadership to anyone.
  15. +3
    4 September 2015 16: 08
    "I have never seen such huge monuments ... no, houses made in the form of a statue. A man, a man, an elderly man, in a raincoat ..." some individual strokes were perceived by the consciousness, not adding up to a whole picture. The mind refused to estimate the height, but I noticed that the head of the statue is on a par with the clouds.

    “The allegorical figure of the Mentor crowns the building of the World Council,” said Tag in the tone of a guide. “Built more than two hundred years ago, it is the tallest building in the Motherland. When the technology for testing quark reactors required a complex that would exceed the height of the Council building, a compromise solution was found. The test complex was built, but at first the building of the Council was raised by one and a half kilostep. "(C)
  16. +4
    4 September 2015 16: 27
    Indeed, in 1937, when the construction of this monumental building began, everything was subordinated to the iron hand of the authorities. Before the war, they even managed to build it up to the height of the tenth floor of a residential building. However, due to the costs associated with the start of the Second World War, construction canceled
    The 37th year ... already Japanese soldiers are entering Beijing, already the Condor legion on their Me-109 and Ju-52 bombed Madrid, wiped Guernica off the face of the earth, Hitler already uttered his sacramental phrase - "that his family is not Therefore, the most important problems, especially the mastery of living space, must be resolved as soon as possible. And he feels fresh, like a foal in a meadow ... "I think that was not the time for the start of a grandiose monumental peaceful construction! It would be wiser to use this reinforced concrete and labor costs (and not only of this facility!) By building a network of powerful SDs on our western border. Even the same Smolensk, enclose it with modern fortification of the 20th century level, and that would be no small benefit (this the city in any war on the Russian Plain is always the key (the key to Moscow). And then first we blow up the temple, then we throw resources into the unfinished one, then we restore the temple ... Oh, Russia, you will always be like that. For what I love you drinks love Yes
  17. 0
    4 September 2015 17: 05
    As far as I know, there were several such projects.
    Here take a look at both projects of the past and projects of the future:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhNdPgDGgxY
  18. +2
    4 September 2015 17: 50
    And I thought that the Germans suffered gigantomania. laughing
  19. +3
    4 September 2015 18: 32
    Quote: prosto_rgb
    And the pool came out great!

    Yes, in the country, which occupies the 1st place in area (1/6 land) in the world, in order to build a palace, there is no place, you need to blow up the first, main cathedral! And for the pool, you had to submit information to Guinness - THE MOST POWERFUL CONCRETE PILLOW IN THE WORLD . Okay, they built a skyscraper for thousands of apartments (after all, many lived in communal apartments and hostels), but to build such a cyclopean structure, under archives, museums, and pedestals, there were such times, such ideas. No. hi