Dutch "experts" in the second year of the investigation found "an important find" at the crash site of "Boeing" near Donetsk

It never ceases to amaze the Netherlands Prosecutor General’s Office, which participated in the investigation of the causes of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing, which followed 17 last July with the flight Amsterdam-Kuala Lumpur. More than a year has passed since the tragedy, and Dutch prosecutors just today announced that "an important find was made at the crash site." 9 th channel of Israel with reference to sources in the prosecutor's office of the Netherlands reports that the "discovery" allegedly is a fragment of the rocket complex "Buk".


Dutch "experts" in the second year of the investigation found "an important find" at the crash site of "Boeing" near Donetsk


The message of the main prosecutor's office of the Netherlands:
These fragments are of great interest for the investigation of a criminal case, since they can shed light on many things and give more information about who is involved in the death of MH17.


However, Dutch prosecutors immediately added:
However, it is not yet possible to reliably assert that there is a connection between these fragments and the ship’s accident.


Based on this information, one can say that another year will pass, and so many things can be found at the crash site that “can shed light on the causes of the crash” ... It remains to be seen how many more years and fragments the investigation commission needs to bring work to a logical conclusion?

By the way, the statements of the Dutch Chief Prosecutor’s Office that “it is impossible to reliably assert that there is a connection between debris and catastrophe,” once again speak of the complete absurdity of the idea of ​​creating an international tribunal in such conditions.
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  1. Infinity 11 August 2015 17: 23 New
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    And naturally, this is a fragment of a Russian rocket, right? wink Did Putin personally give the launch command? And Ruin has already presented new evidence:
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      1. razzhivin 11 August 2015 17: 37 New
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        Moreover, the State Department of evidence only from social networks and sites and recognizes ... lol
        1. Inok10 11 August 2015 18: 09 New
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          Quote: razzhivin
          Moreover, the State Department of evidence only from social networks and sites and recognizes ... lol

          .. it no longer rolls .. now there will be cuts from the militants do .. like "Red Heat" .. laughing .. but, in general, you won’t envy the Holodians .. even the Estonians will roll out a note of protest, because they are “the fastest” ..a, here some Dutch people thought a year .. laughing
          1. Grandfather bear 11 August 2015 23: 02 New
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            And the pioneer Vova killed Kennedy from a slingshot as a child !!!


            "Worm! Wet worm !!!"

            Bagheera.
          2. northern 13 August 2015 21: 46 New
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            Quote: Inok10
            Quote: razzhivin
            Moreover, the State Department of evidence only from social networks and sites and recognizes ... lol

            .. it no longer rolls .. now there will be cuts from the militants do .. like "Red Heat" .. laughing .. but, in general, you won’t envy the Holodians .. even the Estonians will roll out a note of protest, because they are “the fastest” ..a, here some Dutch people thought a year .. laughing

            From computer games, slices they have already tried to pass off as evidence.
        2. Kent0001 11 August 2015 19: 58 New
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          They will kill the joint there and they will have debris from the Buk there and a lot of interesting, colorful and funny things ... right up to the effect of the humanoid thought from the alpha centaur on the plane. Golimatya, yes, and it’s complete, but in essence and information load it is not much different from the Dutch information.
          1. Muadipus 11 August 2015 20: 54 New
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            Laughter through tears. Where the world is heading. if "independent" international institutions are engaged in fraud. It’s funny here. But the problem is much more serious. After all, if international law loses credibility, if neutral people become shaking hands. That is the only 100% reasoned that the military remains. I do not want war.
            1. Aleksander 11 August 2015 21: 17 New
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              Quote: Muadipus
              After all, if international law loses credibility

              Yes, that is right. Not voicedWHEN found these debris-really ONE YEAR LATER?! Strange message ...
          2. AVV
            AVV 11 August 2015 22: 23 New
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            The most interesting thing is that the chip with a yellow-blockade flag !!! And this already says something !!! With prints, Turchinov and Yatsenyuk !!! After the pigtail, however!
        3. st25310 11 August 2015 21: 53 New
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          Well, if this, Dutch experts, then they are excusable. lol
        4. Vasiliev Yu 12 August 2015 06: 11 New
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          You are strange people! And then you are not right, and so you are wrong! You would pay attention to the fact that they are now looking for evidence in social networks, and not from witnesses. They are slowly becoming humanists, philanthropists; because they are officially allowed to torture so as not to torment the people, not to mock them, not to hurt them (otherwise the progressive public will be indignant at their actions), the CIA, the State Department are trying to bring pain and suffering virtually on social networks (because they don’t do anything else not trained). Dashing trouble is the beginning, you see, they will someday be re-educated to such an extent that Greenpeace against their background will look like Al Qaeda.
        5. APASUS 12 August 2015 10: 11 New
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          Quote: razzhivin
          Moreover, the State Department of evidence only from social networks and sites and recognizes ... lol

          The State Department controls all this circus and adjusts plans during the performance. If Petya performs now or some other trick, the Dutch will find all the missing parts and present them.
          So with Russia, everything will depend on the successes of the Americans themselves, if they show a complete failure, then the Holodrans will have in their hands a fragment of a rocket signed by Putin himself!
        6. dobryak19 13 August 2015 13: 43 New
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          probably a piece of the Made in Russia carrot rocket with the serial number of the Uralvagonzavod and the president’s personal signature?
    2. Baloo 11 August 2015 17: 32 New
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      A year ago, nalivaichenko said so, we will find evidence that the Boeing was hit by a beech.
      I might have believed it if the eyewitnesses hadn’t said from the very beginning: there were two planes. And no one said that he had heard the noise from the launching rocket and saw an inversion trace from the launch of the rocket, although this should have been seen as a mini in a radius of one and a half to two tens of kilometers.
      1. Persistent 11 August 2015 17: 49 New
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        A year ago, nalivaichenko said so, we will find evidence that the Boeing was hit by a beech.

        Not a beech but a laptop ... Kiev ...
        1. Styx 11 August 2015 20: 31 New
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          laughing laughing good supereeer ... LAPTOP ...
          FEYCOMETERS from the country FEYCOMETLAND
      2. Tanais 11 August 2015 17: 54 New
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        Quote: Balu
        A year ago, nalivaichenko said so, we will find evidence that the Boeing was hit by a beech.


        Shag ... They couldn’t find anything, since the rocket element ATRA,from which PUTIN shot down MN-17, I have wink .

        EXCLUSIVELY FOR MILITARY REVIEW !


        (I regret that by the date of 11.08.15/XNUMX/XNUMX, on the camera, I did not turn on the clock display mode ... So to speak, for "precise reference" ...)
        1. Infinity 11 August 2015 18: 03 New
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          Wow, now you will be required to be judged in Ruin and will begin to create a tribunal laughing
          1. Oprychnik 11 August 2015 18: 23 New
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            Hot Estonian guys, not too hurrying, as usual in a hurry, sharply come forward and leave far behind the stoned Dutch. Before our eyes, there is an epic change of European leaders in quick thinking: the Dutch, in the titanic struggle, capture the leader’s laurels from discouraged Estonians!
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            2. Baikonur 11 August 2015 19: 57 New
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              Quote: Oprychnik
              ... in quick thinking: the Dutch, in a titanic struggle, seize the leader’s laurels from discouraged Estonians!

              Dutch "experts" in the second year of the investigation found an "important find"
              Dutch "specialists" in the second year SMOKING found "an important find" - lack of MIND!
        2. avia1991 11 August 2015 19: 13 New
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          Quote: Tanais
          an element of the ATGM rocket from which PUTIN shot down MN-17, I have

          Tanais, why are you so messy ?! belay Is it possible to expose yourself to such a risk ?! Shshas, ​​all the special services will hunt for you!
          laughing
          1. Tanais 11 August 2015 20: 18 New
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            Quote: avia1991
            Tanais, why are you so messy ?! Is it possible to expose yourself to such a risk ?! Shshas, ​​all the special services will hunt for you!

            Not yet born, that intelligence agency ...
        3. figwam 13 August 2015 12: 51 New
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          EXCLUSIVELY FOR MILITARY REVIEW!

          So there on the reverse side it says "To Berlin", "For Stalin" and Putin’s painting with a fingerprint.)))
      3. atalef 11 August 2015 19: 17 New
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        Quote: Balu
        Nalivaychenko said so back, we will find evidence that the Boeing was hit by a beech.

        And Almaz-Antey - confirmed it, or am I confusing something? More precisely, he said this 2 months ago
        Dplshe, but in general someone noticed that it was not said when it was found?
        The Dutch finished collecting evidence more than six months ago and everything was found back then (probably because the appropriate authorities) gave Almaz Antei such an unexpected press conference, and even contrary to the opinion of the TFR.
        On the eve of the report, the Dutch are slowly starting to share info.
        A normal technique, very common in investigative practice, to give a piece of information and see who jerks the most
        1. Baloo 11 August 2015 20: 09 New
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          Almaz Antey confirmed that the beech could not fly in from the militia if it was a beech. The beech, which went to the militias, is just rubbish and cannot be restored. In the interception of the conversation, Kalomoy’s helpers let one slip out: ... by air ... it didn’t work from the ground. hi
          1. atalef 11 August 2015 20: 28 New
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            Quote: Balu
            Almaz Antey confirmed that the beech could not fly from the militia if it was a beech

            So the Dutch did not say that they were militias - they said that it was Buk (more precisely, they found the remains of a rocket) --- what is the difference with Almaz-Antey?
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            The beech that went to the militias is just rubbish and cannot be restored

            Has it already been submitted for examination?
            I think you are running ahead of the engine, the militias said they never had a Buk
            Quote: Balu
            In the interception of the conversation, Kalomoy’s helpers let one slip out: ... by air ... it didn’t work from the ground.

            Not at all ,
            The Boeing was shot down from the plane (Ukrainians), finished off by Buk, the plane was full of corpses, it was driven by Spanish dispatchers and there was someone there, plus an assistant to Kolomoisky, well, in addition, the version of the TFR, which has a state witness (passed the polygraph) - - and all versions of the TRUTH.
            1. Baloo 11 August 2015 21: 45 New
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              Has it already been submitted for examination?
              I think you are running ahead of the engine, the militias said they never had a Buk

              Beech went to the militias a few months before the Boeing. Dill turned it into trash that cannot be restored. Without ammunition.

              Not at all ,
              The Boeing was shot down from the plane (Ukrainians), finished off by Buk, the plane was full of corpses, it was driven by Spanish dispatchers and there was someone there, plus an assistant to Kolomoisky, well, in addition, the version of the TFR, which has a state witness (passed the polygraph) - - and all versions of the TRUTH.


              Banderlogs and macaques are bluffing, realizing that all the trump cards of the Russian Defense Ministry. I mean not only Nalyvaichenko and the Dutch, but also Build’s letter with airplanes, only the Union of Russian Engineers did not make out the date and did not compare a number of facts. At VO very quickly figured out that this is a fake.
              The Macaques from Fashington are trying to organize a tribunal to appoint Russia to blame and the militias. If you practiced judo or at least watch competitions, you need to understand what is happening. Soon there will be a decisive throw and a clear victory for the Russian Federation, despite the fussy body movements of macaques and banderlogs.
            2. Barsik 12 August 2015 01: 33 New
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              atalef go to an appointment with a psychiatrist) may be better.
            3. 33 Watcher 12 August 2015 02: 33 New
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              Here you are again scoffing, our ONLY-MENTIVE. And you, did not think why any message of this “investigation” is perceived exactly as it is perceived? You, like, not a stupid person, should see and understand everything. After all, in fact, all examinations were carried out a long time ago, and the technical expert located the wreckage for a long time everything is clear, only they can not say this. And- what is happening now is the level of J. Psaki, how to connect, non-connected ...
        2. NordUral 11 August 2015 20: 57 New
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          Twitching?
        3. Signore Tomato 11 August 2015 21: 38 New
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          Well, that’s how Langdia twitched the most.
          And now what?
          1. atalef 12 August 2015 06: 11 New
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            Quote: Signor Tomato
            Well, that’s how Langdia twitched the most.
            And now what?

            Nothing, there will be no tribunal, Russia imposed a veto.
            Poroshenko was lucky.
        4. tracker 12 August 2015 06: 37 New
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          Almaz-Antey also dispenses the dosed info. It is clear to all participants in this scam to the states, Ukraine, Europe where the “dog rummaged”, but it is necessary to blame Russia, last year it was not possible to use it to unleash a global military conflict in Europe. But it is necessary to finalize the episode to the end, and only then take on new provocations such as a "dirty" bomb, by the way, stuffing into UkroSMI about the bomb has already begun.
        5. gray 13 August 2015 17: 24 New
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          Hello. My personal opinion is that the Russian side has strong evidence of what happened and the West knows about it, but does not know how much this evidence is “peremptory” and is afraid to fall into the mud. The Russian side in every way “trolls” the West and looks, waiting for them to make a fatal mistake. Once again I will say that this is my opinion and I do not impose it on anyone. I draw this conclusion when looking at the actions of the western side. They always created and are creating favorable conditions for their actions (lies, propaganda), and then they tried, but hesitated. It means that everything is not as smooth as they would like and there is something that can “categorically” refute their interpretation of events. The actions of the Dutch side are similar to the passage by a sapper of a mine (information) field, when any mistake can ruin your reputation once and for all.
      4. ty60 11 August 2015 19: 55 New
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        Crested beech. MADE in USSR.
    3. vodolaz 11 August 2015 18: 17 New
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      And they didn’t find Putin’s autograph with Shoigu’s fingerprints on this fragment?
      1. Baloo 11 August 2015 20: 10 New
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        vodolaz Did they not find Putin’s autograph with Shoigu’s fingerprints on this fragment?

        They are looking, they will probably find. bully
      2. nikpwolf 11 August 2015 21: 06 New
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        Quote: vodolaz
        And they didn’t find Putin’s autograph with Shoigu’s fingerprints on this fragment?

        Yes no-e-her. Soon, from the place of the alleged (Dutch, so what, that stoned, but cool tolerant, expert calculated everything exactly) rocket launch (Moscow. Red Square), in the bushes (behind the mausoleum) they will find "randomly scattered" (they left the scene of the crime in a hurry) officers' books of GRU employees (some kind of commander V.V. Putin. What for people?), as well as a secret notebook with a task encrypted using Russian profanity. Decryption took a year. That's it. Nalivaichenko and Parasyuk - "We said! Damned masked!", The USA and the EU, as well as other progressive countries (balances, etc.) - "Here! Because of what the veto! We knew ..!" Hana guys! Tribunal.
    4. Gronsky 11 August 2015 18: 29 New
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      And the Israeli TV channel was the first to report this.
      Again, "the most righteous state in the world" distinguished itself, but having lost its scent, it unwittingly indicated where this news was growing legs. negative
    5. Proud. 11 August 2015 18: 52 New
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      Quote: Infinity
      Did Putin personally give the launch command? And Ruin has already presented new evidence:

      Not ... There will be a "sensational statement" that the inscription was found on the fragment of a rocket: "Made in Russia (01.01.2014/5/XNUMX). The Kremlin Star plant (workshop No. XNUMX. Under the Borovitskaya tower). Collector Shoigu S.K. / Controller Putin V.V. "...
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        PPD 11 August 2015 20: 23 New
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        And he launched the Kobzon rocket with the help of Gazmanov! On sou 25 nearby Porechenkov flew! laughing
    6. avia1991 11 August 2015 19: 10 New
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      Quote: Infinity
      And naturally, this is a fragment of a Russian rocket,

      Of course! What do you want ?!
      On the same rubble, right in the middle with fresh paint, it was written: "Made in Russia"! wassat
    7. kodxnumx 12 August 2015 07: 00 New
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      I think Russia will wait a little longer for their results, but then it will show the world who committed this crime, I’m sure our country has plenty of evidence and witnesses and evidence, so the West wants to understand what Russia has in the case and maybe they don’t reveal their fraud here the results are not announced.
    8. xoma58 13 August 2015 09: 39 New
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      Well, the evidence given in the figure .., sorry, of course in satellite photography, fully confirm the version of the guilt of the Russians.
    9. Bad russian 13 August 2015 14: 57 New
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      in vain it’s you, my friend, such weighty photo evidence posted, because now they can be sent to the Netherlands and applied at the tribunal lol
  2. oleg-gr 11 August 2015 17: 23 New
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    What superprofits are investigating! A year later, they will be able to find the wreckage of Topol or the Governor.
    1. djqnbdjqnb 11 August 2015 17: 40 New
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      This statement is called "ten minutes of disgrace of the Dutch prosecutor's office as the true face of Western European democracy."
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      Tor5 11 August 2015 18: 06 New
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      Well and well, they really don’t even know how to lie, not just to provide any evidence. As they would say in the adjacent territory: Ganba !!!
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  3. Igor39 11 August 2015 17: 23 New
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    Throws do, check the reaction
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    dsi 11 August 2015 17: 24 New
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    The Dutch are burning! ... well, they are smoking something ...
    1. roskot 11 August 2015 18: 02 New
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      They have been smoking for a long time. And in the breaks they are looking for rocket fragments.
    2. spech 11 August 2015 18: 41 New
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      The Dutch are burning! ... well, they are smoking something ...

      why should they hurry, the salary goes, the grass is also picky and the Estonians squeezed the first place wassat
      1. ty60 11 August 2015 20: 00 New
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        Better to smoke the Mongolian dung.
      2. Throw 11 August 2015 20: 33 New
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        In such a way, next year it will be possible to drag the wreckage of a couple more "Boeing" there and then them suddenly discover!
        laughing
    3. ssn18 11 August 2015 19: 33 New
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      So their easy drug is legalized, and under the influence of it they even blurt out, especially when it sticks out.
  5. Ruthless 11 August 2015 17: 25 New
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    The Dutch "experts" reacted with such an ambiguous statement to the change of supplier of miracle herbs and miracle cookies to the nearest coffee shop ... laughing
  6. Vladimirets 11 August 2015 17: 25 New
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    The Dutch in the second year of the investigation found that the Boeing fell. At this pace, the British scientists will soon be taken the palm.
    1. KBR109 11 August 2015 17: 36 New
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      Let me remind you that it was also established that the objects with which it was shot down had significant kinetic energy. But no one is able to encroach on the palm of superiority of Ukrainian scientists.
    2. go21zd45few 11 August 2015 17: 39 New
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      Why investigate and create Boeing tribunals, if the mouthpiece of the chief is the United States.
      Psaki identified the cause of the fall of the Boeing, it was heavier than air and point.
  7. shinobi 11 August 2015 17: 26 New
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    Efficiency is simply amazing. So you see, in about 30 years, the preliminary results of the investigation will finally be announced. Snails on their background are simply "cars" of the F-1 races.
    1. serezhasoldatow 11 August 2015 18: 21 New
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      F-1 is a "lemon"? Strong Putin, throws at such a distance ...
    2. ty60 11 August 2015 20: 06 New
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      The reports of September 11 are still closed. Another obvious provocation. They killed the citizens of their country to justify the war in the Middle East. And the citizens of Malaysia ... And who are they in the USA?
  8. sichevik 11 August 2015 17: 26 New
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    And this fragment brought them pornoshenko. How he brought the wreckage of buses, passports of Russian military personnel and much more ...
  9. Dikson 11 August 2015 17: 26 New
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    It was our idiotic idea that they threw them into - shoot into a decommissioned Boeing and see what happens .. They probably did .. And then figure out what plane the piece with the striking elements from ..
  10. Zoldat_A 11 August 2015 17: 26 New
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    It remains to find out how many more years and debris the commission of inquiry needs to bring the work to its logical conclusion?
    The grandchildren of the members of this commission will think of looking for objective control transferred by the militia to Ukraine and the records of the talks between pilots and the tower that were erased by the SBU. HOUSE-2 in Dutch. After 10 years there everyone will forget what they are investigating.
  11. YaMZ-238 11 August 2015 17: 27 New
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    Mysterious however the plane! So much time has passed and in the end nothing ... (((
  12. mig31 11 August 2015 17: 28 New
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    The blind are conducting investigations under the control of the CIA and the State Department, which truth can be discussed ....
  13. veksha50 11 August 2015 17: 28 New
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    "It remains to find out how many more years and debris the investigative commission needs to bring the work to its logical conclusion?" ...

    For a whole year they sawed a piece of iron and drove it supposedly to the remainder of Buk ...

    Well, now things will go easier ... Until the fall, they will have time to engrave “RF” or “Russia” on this piece, and then even facsimile Putin or Shoigu to pandora on this piece ...

    PS Well, these Dutch are fast-energetic-reactive ... A little over a year has passed - and ALREADY such impressive results from the investigation ...
    1. Tanais 11 August 2015 18: 05 New
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      Quote: veksha50
      Well, now things will go easier ... Until the fall, they will have time to engrave “RF” or “Russia” on this piece, and then even facsimile Putin or Shoigu to pandora on this piece ...
  14. andrei332809 11 August 2015 17: 29 New
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    I thought the Cholandians had their own grass, but no, they tried dill
  15. Scoun 11 August 2015 17: 29 New
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    Based on this information, we can talk aboutthen another year will pass, and at the crash site they can find so many things,

    How the plane was shot down - so the State Department began blaming the Russian Federation in half an hour
    How to publish data from "black" boxes and negotiations with the control room - they can’t last a year
    a year later they found parts of the Buk
    a year later, on the “parts” of the rocket, the inscriptions “To Kiev”, “from Russian separatists to Boeing passengers”, Flags of the Russian Federation and New Russia will begin to appear. a year later, traces of uranium and Putin's autograph.
    what are they vile ... interesting and their people are "hawala"?
    how he touched the abomination after reading it (although he read it at night / in the morning).
  16. olimpiada15 11 August 2015 17: 30 New
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    The Dutch pulled out a fragment and think:
    this is the fragment that Ukrainians prepared and planted in the crash site in a year or not,
    and if he is, then he meets the requirements, or again these "ID & T S" screwed up, you can’t trust anything,
    So they decided to release it in the network; the situation may become clearer; You cannot make mistakes, you can ruin the whole version and you will have to admit yourself to be involved in the crash of the Boeing.
  17. Persistent 11 August 2015 17: 32 New
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    There is an old joke about this ...
    Caught pale-faced Indians and locked in a barn. Five days later, the Indians returned to their own. They are asked, "Where are you hanging around?" In response - "Caught pale-faced and locked in a barn. We sit for a day, two sit, and on the third day the" sharp-sighted Falcon "saw that there was not one wall in the barn .... belay ..so they got away "!!! So here ... As soon as Russia blocked the UN decision on the Boeing tribunal, the DOCKS immediately got out new !!!! laughing
  18. barclay 11 August 2015 17: 32 New
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    The 9th Israeli channel, citing sources in the Netherlands prosecutor’s office, reports that the “find” is allegedly a fragment of a Buk missile.

    All this is complete crap, in the absence of specialists from the one and only Almaz-Antey. And the actions of Dutch investigators so far resemble such a picture.
  19. Vadim237 11 August 2015 17: 38 New
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    Soon, at the crash site of the Boeing, Dutch experts will discover UFO debris and declare complete secrecy in the investigation of the crash of Boeing for 50 years, involving the Pentagon, the CIA, Mi 6 and all, in the investigation.
  20. svp67 11 August 2015 17: 38 New
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    OSCE inspectors, Dutch investigators apparently studied at some academies ...
    1. udincev 11 August 2015 17: 54 New
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      Quote: svp67
      OSCE inspectors, Dutch investigators apparently studied at some academies ...

      I won’t say anything about academies. And the fact that the system is one is already visible to the blind.
  21. Siga77 11 August 2015 17: 40 New
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    Wow! Found it ...
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    "beautiful" version. good Soon, at the crash site of a Boeing, they will find a passport of Bashar al-Assad wassat will smash Syria. Then they will find a container with 100500% enriched uranium with the inscription "made in Iran" on the box, they will smash Iran without apologizing to the rest of Syria and so on the list.
    It makes me laugh differently: why are they generally soaring ??? what stupidly wet everyone and did not hide behind, all the same, everyone and so the reason for the fall. It may not be in the details, but the meaning is clear.
  23. barclay 11 August 2015 17: 42 New
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    In general, if you fantasize, it can be assumed that for a year the falsifiers had the opportunity to find a couple of real damaging elements from the Buk missile and attach them to the wreckage of the Boeing, which are not clear where. In Hollywood, they’re not inventing such a thing.
  24. sl22277 11 August 2015 17: 43 New
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    Much more will be done on Boeing's statements and important evidence found .. That's just the truth we will never know!
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      Yeah, we definitely won’t live!
  25. candidate 11 August 2015 17: 44 New
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    Provocation was
    But she went wrong
    With BEECH everything went wrong
    I completed it all
  26. bronik 11 August 2015 17: 48 New
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    The details necessary for the investigation can be thrown in any quantity, but to prove their application according to Boeing is the task of the Dutch “Investigators”, and at any cost.
  27. wk
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    I don’t see a crime in that Boeing could be shot down by militias from a beech, in the territory where bomber and other aircraft of the enemy operate ... since before that they shot down both Su 24 and the AN transporter is clearly not at the reach of the “arrows” or “needles "..... the question is who directed the Boeing there, deviating from the course and reducing the level .... where did the dispatcher and the records of their negotiations go .... not the right defense strategy in this matter, our chosen .... and not one .. ... and have been pierced more than once ... what is Leontiev’s fake worth?
    1. svp67 11 August 2015 20: 05 New
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      I don’t see a crime in that a Boeing could be knocked down by militias from beech

      Well, if you think so, then answer, in your opinion, the people who shot from the Buk were good specialists?
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        wk 11 August 2015 21: 38 New
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        Well, if you think so, then answer, in your opinion, the people who shot from the Buk were good specialists?

        Although I served an emergency in air defense, I’m not an expert in these matters .... I heard the conclusions of one expert ... a "beech" can work as a complex ... that is. with a special radar machine, the autonomous control unit also has its own small radar but with a limited degree and lower power .... I don’t know about ultramodern radars, but those about which I know will not distinguish, for example, silt 76 from a Boeing ... . classification of approximately this order. light-weight aircraft, fighter aircraft, transport and passenger on the radar give an identical signal ... this is on a serious radar ... and the possibility of a small radar on the control panel is even less thought ....
        At the expense of good air defense specialists, I’ll note that there are not a few of them in Ukraine, during the Soviet era, most of the air defense outposts were closer to the border, and the scale of the air defense was not comparable to the current ones .... I served in the air defense connection and I remember even the call sign of Kiev Air Defense ... "Guitar" ... well, to be honest, I don’t understand the essence of your question about specialists.
        1. svp67 12 August 2015 05: 11 New
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          "beech" can work as a complex ... that is. with a special radar machine,

          The so-called radar "Dome".
          Quote: wk
          those. classification of approximately this order. light-weight aircraft, fighter aircraft, transport and passenger on the radar give an identical signal ... this is on a serious radar ... and the possibility of a small radar on the control panel is even less thought ....

          It is a possible event.
          Quote: wk
          at the expense of good air defense specialists, I’ll notice that there are not a few of them in Ukraine,
          Well, here it would be possible to argue, because without practical firing, but in the whole history of “independence”, they almost did not carry out them and the latter ended in the destruction of our passenger plane, the fact of which, by the way, they still deny, it’s not good preparation.
          But here it is different. We agree that in any case, theoretically, the crew simply had to be well prepared. In any case, its commander.
          Now I will ask one more question.
          Do you think that since the Buk was used, the one who issued the command for its use believed that it was justified, or rather, that it was a VERY IMPORTANT GOAL that simply needed to be destroyed?
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  28. Leeder 11 August 2015 17: 51 New
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    What will they find next year?
    An order signed personally by Putin? Shell shells? I'm even afraid to guess ...
  29. Rossiyanin 11 August 2015 17: 51 New
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    Quote: Infinity
    And naturally, this is a fragment of a Russian rocket, right? wink Did Putin personally give the launch command? And Ruin has already presented new evidence:

    Here the picture shows clear evidence that the Russian fired, even Putin himself seems, how embarrassing he is!
  30. Vlad5307 11 August 2015 17: 57 New
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    The 9th Israeli channel, citing sources in the Netherlands prosecutor’s office, reports that the “find” is allegedly a fragment of a Buk missile.

    This is in response to our statement that a Boeing could be shot down by an Israeli-made missile launched by the SU-25 modernized (in terms of suspension) in the 51st state of the SGA (Georgia) back in 2007-2008 and transferred to the Outskirts.
    So, before a real analysis of all the findings, more than five will be needed. Counterfeiters are working hard, but they are afraid of the facts in the hands of the Russian Federation.
  31. K-50 11 August 2015 18: 02 New
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    Right now, they will smoke and find something else that exposes Russia laughing
  32. sounddoc 11 August 2015 18: 03 New
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    Maybe they found the most important detail in any investigation - CONSCIENCE?
    Although it is hard to believe ....
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    2. evge-malyshev 11 August 2015 21: 12 New
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      Maybe they found the most important detail in any investigation - CONSCIENCE?
      Although it is hard to believe ....


      Just CONSCIENCE, they don’t have ...
  33. made13 11 August 2015 18: 04 New
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    And also found a ton of cow cakes, the smell of which flew Russian beech!
  34. Garris199 11 August 2015 18: 13 New
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    Soon they will find there a military ID of the BUK operator and in the cover of the document a mission to destroy the board, signed by whom. bully
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      Well, in Valtsman, I will write in Hebrew. The main thing is to fix it.
  35. fridge 11 August 2015 18: 13 New
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    Fewer gamepads need to be watched, and you can see something wrong. laughing
  36. Oman 47 11 August 2015 18: 18 New
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    It will be more interesting to stompers after the publication of the OFFICIAL RESULTS of the "INVESTIGATION".
    When the CONTRARGEMENTS, facts and QUESTIONS will be published.
  37. Irkut 11 August 2015 18: 22 New
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    What is going on with the Malaysian Boeings? It is impossible to establish the truth anywhere.
  38. demo 11 August 2015 18: 37 New
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    And here, on the fourth day, the Vigilant Falcon discovered that there was not one wall in the prison in which the pale-faced ones had been sent!
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      You forgot an important detail:
      On the 4th day the Vigilant Falcon put on glasses and discovered ...
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      You forgot an important detail:
      On the 4th day the Vigilant Falcon put on glasses and discovered ...
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    So the grass began to let investigators go. Soon they will get to work.
  40. kartalovkolya 11 August 2015 18: 45 New
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    And what did we all expect from these "democratic" prosecutors? Yes, they will do everything in order to "cover up" the investigation, because it was correctly noticed that they (or rather their owners) are most afraid of what Russia can make public! And everything else is just a "smoke screen"!
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    In a hurry.
  42. Vasilenko Vladimir 11 August 2015 18: 59 New
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    five years later they will find the skeleton of a tractor and say that Lukashenko was also in business
  43. BOB044 11 August 2015 19: 03 New
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    They can’t do it anyway. Bind Russia to this disaster. If in the bodies of the dead they find elements of air-to-air missiles. It will be clear to everyone who shot down. And for the elements of Buk, you can conduct an investigation for another thirty years and Ukraine will not be to blame. they are in holland.
  44. sagitch 11 August 2015 19: 06 New
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    Let us wait that after a "thorough search" at the crash site was found a handwritten journal of missile launching, with a description of the objectives and orders to launch missiles, signed ...? Putin of course !!!.
  45. Eastern wind 11 August 2015 19: 14 New
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    Something like this ...
  46. sanain 11 August 2015 19: 14 New
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    More than a year has passed since the tragedy, and Dutch prosecutors only today announced that "an important find was made at the crash site." - plane?
  47. Victor-M 11 August 2015 19: 19 New
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    Dutch prosecutors only today announced that "an important find was made at the crash site." The 9th channel of Israel, citing sources in The Netherlands Prosecutor’s Office reports that the “find” is allegedly a fragment of a Buk missile.

    Engraved - “GDP”, which proves the use of Putin’s personal, personalized missile system. All business can be closed. laughing
  48. unsinkable 11 August 2015 19: 23 New
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    Do these gentlemen really not understand that they insult the memory of the dead by engaging in verbiage and fact-finding and humiliating themselves, being in a half-hearted pose in front of the Americans and the rest of the European political riffraff. With such rates and * truthfulness * of investigation, the truth will be restored by archaeologists in the distant future. .
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      Do these gentlemen really not understand that they insult the memory of the dead, engaging in verbiage and adjusting the facts and humiliate themselvesbeing in a half-hearted pose in front of the Americans and the rest of the European political riffraff. With such a pace and * veracity * of investigation, the truth will be restored by archaeologists in the distant future.

      Lord have mercy! What kind of self-esteem do you speak of these ghouls, because it was they and people like them who ruined their citizens, albeit not personally, but by their indulgence, exchanged 300 lives to please the United States, while they are absolutely not interested in the lives of those killed and crippled people in the Donbass, above which they put their citizens. They deserve nothing but contempt, no one, not the authorities, not their ordinary citizens.
  49. vovanpain 11 August 2015 19: 37 New
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    A year later, it turns out that it was not a beech, but Topol. Not a Boeing flew, but a UFO
  50. Yarik 11 August 2015 19: 40 New
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    Profanity and complete nonsense. Grass slaughter at the experts.